Anonymous --- YOU ARE AMAZING!! Thank you for this. I would join you in a second. You're hackers...come find me. I cannot thank you enough for doing this. You speak the truth. We need more of it. Bravo! AC
is there anything i can do to help.. i wanna help.. i am a vegetarian.. usually vegan.. but went veg for my pregnancy and will return vegan as soon as my baby comes.. please let me know any petitions.. inside work anything i wanna help.. thank you
Watch Forks Over Knives or check out the Engine 2 diet ... all great strapping firefighters from New York who eat 'plant strong' and have found their health has increased, cholesterol dropped, all their numbers have improved and their sex lives too. Once you free yourself from dairy and meat you feel so incredibly fit and healthy it is just amazing.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate. Well Cow’s, Sheep, goats etc, hoof’s dig into the ground due to the design of their hoofs, they will not control we’re they walk and eat and will literary destroy virgin land, putting rare fauna and native animals like lizards, frogs and birds in danger. The ecosystem is a very sensitive system so well you may be helping some animals out you’d be putting others at risk. However I do not believe animal testing our products is right that’s 1 thing I do agree on.
@cam181990 I agree with you to an extent. I don't think this video is intended to ask that all farm animals be set free. It's that their rights not be violated. Our system allows us to eat and waste too much meat than what is sustainable (ie. feeding the livestock enough grains to feed the entire world just so a few nations can eat it, not being able to manage fecal matter). Factory farms should be given proper vet care and euthanized if needed.
@Tzara86 Just to make sure I understood what you're saying. Factory farms should continue to operate but you're asking that stricter rules be in place and enforced such as limiting grain feed or the conditions of the farms are in etc. Is that what you're saying? Because technically that wouldn't be liberation
@cam181990 If our demands for meat are that high that we can remove any dignity that the animal has to enjoy what little life it has, why shouldn't there be standards? That's not anti-liberal. That's like saying we should keep allowing sodium fluoride in our drinking water, GMO's, mercury in vaccines, and no standards in any industry because then the companies would be oppressed. Companies aren't people, therefore a factory farm that tortures animals shouldn't be granted free liberty.
@cam181990 This requires though that people mutually agree that factory farming is wrong (and most people do), and that our appointed governance actually act upon the will of the people. Set strict guidelines and implement enforcement through inspection of animal welfare at random intervals. The only reason we are being allowed to eat as much meat as we do is because there is no one telling the farmers that animal welfare > profit. If there is less product, we eat meat less.
@cam181990 Farm animals are farm animals is the bottom line. Not just set them free and expect people to hunt it or eat nothing but spinach and broccoli. If the price of meat rises, this is where free energy comes into play. Why the hell can't we power absolutely everything with clean, nearly free energy? Oh, that's right, profits of the elite oil/nuclear/coal/etc share holders. Don't allow them to suppress this; then we can eat healthily AND with very little cost.
@Tzara86 I'm not sure where you are but here in Australia we already have standards to protect farm animals from abuse. However I am aware that countries such as India are still unregulated and we would need to make these (unregulated) countries aware they need to act.
@Tzara86 I'm guessing by this video you are telling me that the regulations over there are either to leaniant or non exsistant. The thing i don't understand is why this happens, because if the meat is brusied from beating an animal it's only good for dog food, so it create's waste. So what i'd like to see is the removal of battery cages (we can get cage free products) and better protection of animals from abuse and ill be happy
@cam181990 Sadly, a lot of our 'packaged' foods are dog food quality. There is no regulation and I can imagine that meat that looks damaged just goes in with the carcass for the chemical treatments to break it down into 'mechanically separated meats' for hotdogs/bologna/etc. There are no regulations and therefore, no waste. The way they've been allowed to treat animals is highly profitable, hence the backlash of people not eating meat products anymore. Even the 'free range' products
@cam181990 are under siege because 'farmers' will shove them into a warehouse where they can roam freely on the floor, but are still suffocating in ammonia from dense populations, piling on top of each other and label it free range :( It's not safe to say free range anymore, you have to literally go to the farm if you care about what you eat here. It's terrible! Regulations and some sort of random checks to enforce the animals welfare would be an excellent start.
Animals Are our friends. But I am sorry. unfortunately, there really is something called "the circle of life." And many times it does require one species to feed off of others. I was told in middle school that eating meat allowed our brains to grow. I saw another study not too long ago that said it was possibly cooked meat that decreased our gut size, and increased our brain. The animals we feed off deserve our respect, but I dare you to put a lion on a vegi diet. These our my thoughts. Peace.
@astro15 I agree, but this world is based on profits. People who stop eating meat are doing the only think they know they can do to stop supporting the system. They do a lot more than protect animal rights when they eat veges. They refuse to support the #1 greenhouse gas emission producer than all cars/trains/planes in any year. Transport and feeding the animals is all very profitable for petrol. And of course there is manure. The issue here is our methods of production. Cont'd...
@astro15 We need access to equipment that operates with clean and free energy (solar/wind/water, initial investment and maintenance fees are nothing compared to petrol). Until then, we should all at least cut back on the meat. And start demanding that engineers and scientists be not only allowed, but funded by our tax dollars to develop these technologies regardless of anyone's wallet/money clip.
Take a look at the new Fendi fashion show, unbelievably cruel and horrific they have masses of fur, from many different animals antelope, mink, crocodile ... words fail me ....
i know im properly gunna be shot for commenting here but animal liberation i reckon would be a bad idea because we do need to control animal population simply to protect other species. We caint just set all animals free and be done with it, it would damage the ecology
@cam181990 so you'd prefer to continue to murder innocent beings at the slaughterhouses, let animals be vivisectated in labs & locked up behind bars in zoos? protect what species exactly? sheep? cows? pigs? your gonna have to explain better!
@cam181990 sigh. that is a load of bull. we are the ones responsible for destroying ecosystems. there are seven billion people on the planet, way too much to continue eating and living like we do. nature has a way of keeping things in control, we do not, and we are the ones who are out of control. not to mention the fact that most of the food we eat is very limited. only certain plants and certain animals. let nature control things, not us.
@applejacks2 Believe what ya want dude. Yes we played our part in affecting nature but we've become aware of that, but i've seen the damage a herd of cows can do. They broke out of there paddock into the swap we had, turned it to a mud soup lucky it was only a small 1 then we spent several hours recovering some of them that were stuck. Also most farm animals were introduced in Australia so they would threaten the native animals and fauna due to the shear population we have.
going veg is one of the best choices you can make & no one but YOURSELF can make that choice.You can't blame anyone else for your choice to aid the cruel industries and fuel their fires and fill their blood soaked pockets.From the de-beaking of chicks and the injections of hormones which cause animals to become obese and broken and unable to form bones,to the pens in which pigs, after having their tails ripped off,turn to cannibalism and eat their brethren out of starvation and disease.Help them
I've been vegetarian for awhile, and find that it actually helps my athletics. I thought phasing (fazing?) meat out of my diet would be detrimental to my muscles, but as it turns out, it isn't. Please, you can definitely make vegetarianism work in your diet. I have, and I will message anyone who wants to chat about switching from an omnivorous diet to a vegetarian diet.
Good luck to all working toward this goal. I'm doing my part...what about you?
I am so happy to hear that Anonymous now will speak out for the voiceless, I hope they join us in our battles against slavery (SeaWorld), agains slaughters (Faroes, Taiji, Namibia, etc), against all types of cruelty and greed (Mitsubishi and their blufin tuna warehouse). Anonymous please join us in our fight for animal freedom.
Truly, please look at the videos, watch Earthlings. Humans MUST learn what is and has been happening for us to evolve into the proper humans this 21st century demands and deserves.
Love this! Finally, more help for the innocent voiceless. There has been atrocities towards non-human animals for much too long. The depravity is beyond belief. Animal experimentation, eating dogs, cats, all animals. The animals in factory farms is nothing more than concentration camps, even worse. Pets abused in oh so many ways, Fur, Circuses, losing their environment (jungles), trapping, hunting, the list goes on.
@mfm77x38 Just because many are rabbits and mice, that makes it okay? They ALSO think, feel and want to live. NO animals should have to die for people. All vivisection is is fallacious pseudo-science for those who don't have the mental or moral capacity to conduct REAL science. To them, it is all about "publish or perish" and not really about finding answers.
@mfm77x38 the Government requires that for all new medicines they are to be tested on two species of animals. One on rodents and the second on a non rodent such as a dog or monkey before they are tested in people for the first time in clinical trials. So as you can see that is why the dogs and primates are being rescued here in the video.
One more comment about the snake and I'll stop blabbing...
Had it been Opheodrys or Diadophis punctatus... I would have probably picked it up, said hello, and sent it on it's way. That's how I usually treat animals. Very gently, and with respect.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate When speaking of Nature we can turn to our fellow creatures for understanding.. and I see nothing in all of them resembling "animal rights."
They're eating one another alive.
Who do you think was the first to eat meat.. us or them?
@EliasCrowe they deserve the right to life & live with their families as we wish to. animals attack animals cause it's survival, kill or be killed. they don't know any better, but we do & humans can live perfectly fine without killing & eating animals.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate I believe humans were designed to eat from plants. I disagree with you about the reason why we should care for other creatures. It's not because we're equal with them that they deserve our care, but because they are less than us. That requires humbling our selves.
Giving up meat eating, is giving up a freedom to do a thing. That requires humbling our selves.
@EliasCrowe well if we figured that out when we were cave people we wouldn't have this problem. i don't mean by equal that we're both of the same specie. i meant that both species are born on this planet, which makes the animals like us earthlings & my main reason is bcoz animals are innocent, unless an animal has attacked sum1, no1 has any reason to kill a innocent living being. animals have done nothing to deserve to die for meat & just bcoz we're more or less smarter then them isn't (1/2)
@EliasCrowe 1 more thing, u wrote the freedom to do a thing, well killing another living being isn't exactly freedom. u might as well say the same about rapists.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate The only animal I myself have killed (besides bugs) is a rattlesnake, and I done that to protect my cats. Then I found out that there is a stupid law that says I'm not allowed to do that.. NO.. I have to let poisoness snakes crawl on my porch because of some stupid law made to protect them.
Now are you going to tell me that me that killing the rattlesnake was as bad as me raping somebody?
@EliasCrowe If you had an ounce of brain in your head, you'd've realized you could simply call animal control to come out and CAPTURE the snake and have it removed to a location distant from your own home, without needlessly killing it. I once saw a stupid idiot like you, beating a snake on a hiking path - a non-poisonous snake. I approached him and kicked his feet out from under him. He landed on his ass and started swearing at me as I walked away. I felt very satisfied at that encounter.
@TheMercilessEye Animal Control? For Pete's sake.. Animal Control only exists in places were animals can't exist freely. That's not the case where I live.
@TheMercilessEye I think it's horrible hypocrisy for people who live in towns and cities to call for the liberation of animals. Why if they ever see a rattlesnake they'd probably call "animal control" and have some one swoop in and take care of the "problem". Some liberation they got going there.
@EliasCrowe What, specifically, do you attribute as 'horrible hypocrisy' for people who live in town and cities to call for the liberation of animals? If they see a rattlesnake and call animal control, most typically the animal is relocated to an area devoid of human population. Do you actually have anything substantial to cite as a factual basis justifying this value judgment, or are you simply blowing smoke without any real basis for doing so?
@TheMercilessEye It's strange to answer a question that has the answer within it.
Spefically.. it's because they live in cities.
If they lived in the wilderness where animals have much more freedom, then it wouldn't be hypocrisy. >>> They would be embracing the fact that humans and animals can live together.
@EliasCrowe "The only animal I myself have killed (besides bugs) is a rattlesnake, and I done that to protect my cats. Then I found out that there is a stupid law that says I'm not allowed to do that.. NO.. I have to let poisoness snakes crawl on my porch because of some stupid law made to protect them."
If killing the snake wasn't your initial reaction to the situation, then what are you whining about, here, in this paragraph?
@TheAnonymousAdvocate The world needs more people that think like us. I am a vegetarian and I did it because I am an animal lover. I even go through a list of items that are not tested on animals and carry it with me.
@MindRapeHa i should do that as well with the list & yes same reason as all veggies go off meat cause we're animal lovers & consider animals our friends & we don't eat out friends.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate Maybe you should make a video and let people know what goes on at the shelters here in the United States. How many healthy dogs and cats are put to sleep every day. =/ Not many people know what goes on and it would be a great idea to let people know.
@asporao hahahaha this has to be the most ignorant comment on this page. where's your proof? oh you've been watching me eat? cause i never throw away food...genius & animals are self-continous, otherwise they wouldn't have to ability to survive and move around! they're living SENITEL beings with a central nervous system like us, which makes them self-continuous, you brainless twat! go back to fuckin' school and do some homework! another douchebag that's been killed on this page. BRING EM ON!!!!
I recommend not including your personal opinions about being vegan, vegetarian, ext. That is not a choice for you to make, and it will offend millions of people. Humans have eaten meat from the very beginning, we need the protein. I am an animal lover and would like to particpate in activsm. I also like to eat meat and eggs. What I am against is the cruelty enacted upon animals. We can kill them without hurting them. They should be awarded better lives and shown respect.
@sunnymichele1981 oh so u like humane killing of animals? there is no humane way of killing, just the same there is no humane war, raptist, robbery etc. why would it offend millions? do some homework, there are millions of other ways to get protein. if your a real animal lover and friend you wouldn't eat them. animals are MY friends, not you, cause i don't eat or kill my friends...
@amilliongodsblog. Hmmm. I think you missed my point. I know there is no hierarchial life structure, but the masses believe there are and deem other species of less value. The "we come first attitude" is a human construction. PS: I don't eat cows, or any animal. Nevermind. End of conversation for me.
Thank you for posting this video. All species have the right to enjoy their lives deserving of the same respect and freedom we would like for ourselves. NO HIERARCHIAL LIFE STRUCTRE. Any one who perceives a hierarchial life structure is living with a false perception according to life on earth. When a tsunami hits, human life has as much value as a cow or ant. Only human arrogance and barbarity perceive it otherwise. We are the scourge of the earth.
@9hootyowl So lions are evil because they eat deer? There is no heirarchical structure to life, only a "we come first" attitude. Humans are just capable of being responsible in that regards. A lion will eat you not because of heirarchy but because you are food. In the same way that we eat a cow.
Anonymous, thank you for this video and thank you for joining the struggle for Animal Liberation. YOU have the power to really make changes. This/YOUR message MUST reach the masses. We must attack the evil forces that are destroying this planet and all the animals who inhabit it. Human and non human alike. Strengthen your army and expose the truth at all costs. Human Freedom, Animal Rights; One struggle one FIGHT! In solidarity always.
@blacksoftailharley thankyou, animals deserve to right to life just as any normal person does. we are all earthlings. the day will come when the animals have their rights, just the same as the day came when black people their rights during racial segregation period. we will be victorious!
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I used to like you guys. Now you have just declared me as your enemy because I use real medicine and real science to learn how to treat people which involves balanced diets and drugs tested on animals.
Every single one of you has indulged in the products of animal testing for your own benefit yet are trying to deny it to others.
There are no alternatives to animal testing, any that exist were developed through testing and are being used anyways.
well you obviously haven't been a good researcher, it's funny how our scientists in europe have PROVEN and TESTED alternatives in europe. the days of animal testing in europe is ending...you can't stop us...no-one can...we're on the rise, the wheels are in motion and people are sitting in our cars for the ride! i'll give you a hint to point you in the right direction. google it. it's never a sad day for internet activism.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate They have not. They have replaced specific aspects of testing, not the whole.
We require in Vivo testing solely because our bodies systems interact with each other and there is no model for the interaction of living organs with each other. As I have stated, I have no idea about computers. I do however understand medicine and have seen the arguments. Trust me, all you are doing is harming scientists and sick people. You are making an argument from the privilege of health.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate go on in this fight ! this is a gold fight because it's to preserve innocent victims from some humans cruality !! they are not researcher they are monster under human face! i wish them to suffer like they have made suffering ! please don't forget those sadic peoples, those lobbies who give the dead . We are a lot to follow you in your action and wish you good luck! Animals need your help ! Good luck to A.L.F too !!!!!
@amilliongodsblog It's not funny the way people like you always find a way to justify torture and murder.
This is on the grounds that you save life by killing and it would appear in your case because it keeps you well supplied with that human evil called money.
The countless beauty products that get tested on animals just serve to increase the hypocrisy of the human race who because of them and similar stupidities think they are more "intelligent" than our fellow animals.
Your internet is purchased with money. Your entire western lifestyle is because you have money. Don't look so badly at it. Money is just paper, plastic and faith.
I don't like beauty product testing, most doctors don't. I do however know that biology and medicine have to be tested on living things. Not to mention some toxic substances that we use like pesticides that are vital.
@amilliongodsblog Your a Doctor and you have to ask what is wrong with money ????
Are you going to ask what's wrong with atomic bombs and all the other weapons used to perpetuate that western lifestyle ???
You are living a cushioned "Ivory Tower" !
Now thanks to Global Warming brought about by human obsession with gaining wealth, countless more are starving and the street kids in Brazil no doubt still getting rounded up and shot.
We would all be much happier if we had stayed in the trees.
Yes. Because having money is awesome. Remember. By the standards of my patients you are rich. I am actually a medical student. I will be a doctor in 2 and a Half years.
I live in India. I travel 4 hours a day to villages to treat people. Trust me, it's less ivory tower and more mountain of elephant excrement.
If we lived in trees I would have died either at birth or within the first 10 years of life. I wear glasses. Chances are you wouldn't have survived either.
@amilliongodsblog sorry but you implied that you were a Doctor and I think I must have mistakenly assumed that you where one of the well fed sort that get lots of money from dodgy drug companies like we have in this country.
But now I'm not sure what you are making up and not.
I would love to see the East I have to admit my knowledge of the human condition is based around the British mentality.
I got as far as Holland when I attempted to travel that way.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 In the UK? My parents are doctors. You don't get any money from drug companies. Infact in the UK they aren't paid as much as they could normally earn should they go private. My mother's salary is capped at 60,000 quid. In private she is worth nearly 250,000 pounds a year. She is a breast cancer surgeon. Every day she saves lives. It's not an idle boast, its truth.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 In the UK? My parents are doctors. You don't get any money from drug companies. Infact in the UK they aren't paid as much as they could normally earn should they go private. Trust me, doctors are paid for their skill. It takes nearly 10 years to train as one and they are damned if they are going to earn less than your plumber.
No one is making up anything. You just don't see the process by which lives are saved.
@amilliongodsblog this conversation has gone a long way from the original point, which is the abuse of animals for humans to maintain an ever more expensive lifestyle by as you point out paying their Doctors well !
I take it then you have no faith in the law of Karma ?
Following the idea that everyone gets what they deserve due to the energy that they give out people get disease due to the fact they are in conflict with their higher mind/bodies.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 There is no Karma. I am an atheist and an ex-hindu. Karma was used to oppress the untouchables by stating that their lives sucked because they were wicked in a previous life. It's still the excuse people use. And I do believe what you are flogging here is industrial grade woo.
And it amuses me that Karma seems to affect only poor people. And disease is caused by pathological and physiological events. There are giant textbooks of such mechanisms, not energy/mind/body.
You would need to be an atheist to believe so strongly in Western Medicine !
I don't believe in reincarnation as such but people plainly get what they give in this world.
Cancer is a good example of this, it is a Rich Man's illness where the body starts to break away from it's original form as parts of the body try to separate from the whole and go their own way so to speak, presumably because they have more sense than the mind.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Yes, poor people so plainly deserve poverty. I should start telling my patients that their babies are dying because they deserve it.
Cancer affects poor people. I have plenty of cancer patients of people who earn less than $ 20 a week. And cancer works by the breakdown of DNA. It's why smokers get more lung cancer than non smokers. Not because they are richer, but because of DNA damage from smoke.
So rich people can pay their Doctors to cure them to compensate for their own Bad Karma.
The Doctors presumably like other Good Holy Men having enough Good Karma to spare on account of all the lives they have saved.
But going back to vivisection you medical lot are accumulating a whole load of Bad Karma by abusing our fellow creatures, this all may well come back to you with a large bang.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Doctors are not holy, nor good. We are just doing a job. Science is neutral and doesn't place such monikers on itself.
All you are doing is understanding how things work so you can apply the principles to improving our lives and coincidentally the lives of animals. Animal rights do not exist in africa because human rights are so appalling. It is privilege which lets you make your argument, not karma. Starvation would make you change your mind about animal equality.
@amilliongodsblog Scares that centre around diseases that are past to humans from animals.(bird Flu, BSE etc)
This is clearly a sign that this is a result of Bad Karma due to the way we humans factory farm animals and abuse them in labs.
So your argument that you are saving lives may well fall flat when a massive pandemic kills a large amount of people due to you lot messing with things.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 This alone shows how blinded you are. All Flu is zoonotic and affects both man and poultry. CJD (BSE doesn't affect humans) at its peak killed 40 people. Diarrhoea probably killed that many people in a few hours today.
The difference between H1N1 and the post WW1 pandemic was that we have modern medical technology now. Modern H1N1 has killed 25174 people. Spanish flu post WW1 (Also H1N1) killed 50 million people.
@amilliongodsblog There are stories as to the origin of the HIV virus having originally been passed from monkeys to humans !!
Also the guy who went to investigate if the disease had been accidentally been created by people making a new form of vaccine (using Monkeys) was plainly Bumped Off !
Some people say that you only have to glance at the Virus to see it is Man Made ( by the CIA ! ), the amount of Microbiologists that die under unusual circumstances gives much credence to this theory.
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Why would we make a virus so ludicrously slow acting as HIV when we have something like Ebola to use? Or bacterial meningitis. I mean HIV is a retarded weapon considering you can live for 20 years plus with the disease. It's not engineered, there are similar viruses in many other animals including cats,
And glance at what virus? HIV. I suggest looking at EM (non scanning) of one. They look like little circles with a piece of DNA in the middle. Like most other viruses.
@amilliongodsblog I think the reason I was arrested and put back on the ferry to England was because of what the police have written in their computers about me !!
@AaronCrossNZ The natural way involves 1/3 of us dying in our first year and most of us dying by 35 to 40. The natural way can go fuck itself.
I shall point out that talking to other people via tame lightning produced by burning 60 million year old dead monsters on a device made out plastic, metal and sand is not natural either. But here we are talking on our computers on the internet. We don't do things naturally, that's the human way. Farming isn't natural either yet you seem to like it.
@amilliongodsblog You should know animal testing is not necessary and does not give any viable informations as to how the medecine or other products will react when used by humans. There are other means to test harmful ingredients (one idea would be to not use them at all...), there is artificial skin products can be tested on, consensual human beings, and more. Using other species as commodities is morally wrong, no matter what excuse you give for it.
@seymourLlama A rat or a rabbit is not a human being. Should you starve you will kill and eat that rabbit in a heart beat. All humans are predators, you don't need canines and big brains to out think grass. Animal testing is 100% necessary for medical and biological research because we cannot experiment on human beings and there is no replacement for an entire functioning creature.
We do use human volunteers but not for things that will kill humans. Destructive testing is vital to medicine.
@amilliongodsblog It stands on the concept that other species are less important than humans, which is speciesist. If you wouldn't agree to test medicine on a child, it does not make sense that you would agree to test it on a rat or a rabbit. They both want to live just as bad.
@seymourLlama Speciest we may be, but how many animals die to keep your food supply and streets clean of vermin. Mice and rats are vermin mate, and farmers butcher them to keep your food nice and cheap and your streets free of disease. Per person per year, your food probably causes more death than my medicine. If you tried to grow food the old way then you would starve and die.
There are some things you cannot test on humans without damaging them forever. For that we use animals.
Why should good animals have to suffer to keep people like you alive? What do you contribute thats so phenomenal that others should die and suffer tortourously in your name?
Anonymous you are so important to us. To them, to decency and morality. Keep Going and never stop!
Why should animals die solely for your food supply? Why should animals die solely for the cleanliness of your city and to control disease? Why should you partake in medical technology but seek to deny it to others?
Same reason.
I am a medical student, I will save lives. I am not really that important to you, but to those who need me I am. A more apt question is, why should we save you? You don't think our work is valuable, not until you need it to live. Must hippocrats suffer hypocrites?
@amilliongodsblog THIS IS GREAT DAY FOR INTERNET ACTIVISM, BUT SAD DAY FOR YOU because you show by your comment, how you are stupid and without any knowledge ! sure, that is a bad day for you
If you want to make a start then look into and contact Huntingdon life science and tell them what you think of them. don't buy products that they test and spread the word. the time will come and in the name of all those animals that suffered in these establishments we will burn it to the ground and anywhere like it.
@TheAnonymousAdvocate what gets me is how they are still operating, man they really don't fear much least of all their conscience. its going to take many of us to smash this place, when the time comes.
They test your pesticides and your fertilisers. Your medicines, your surgical tools and techniques. They test products they use on animals and they test all substances for toxicity.
Do you know who writes out the maximum safe levels for use of these essential products. Every single person here is reliant on pesticides and medicine. You are threatening scientists, doctors and farmers. All you are doing is ruining research with your stance.
if u even bothered to watch my video, you'd hear that i said there are ALTERNATIVES to animal testing. there's even a picture of one of the many alternatives...
they are less cruel & cost less! it's been proven by fuckin' scientists animal testings are a waste especially since the animals in HLS are being treated like SHIT! get it?!
do some fuckin' homework before ignorant people like you come on this video!
@amilliongodsblog science? you mean the betterment of knowledge for our species? there is no science at HLS just monsters.
we do not need pesticides, we do not need fertilises, organic works just fine.
you comment sickens me, you would allow our species to abuse others for our own betterment.
stop pretending to be an advocate of science when in fact your just a consumer that cant stand to lose an isle or two at the shopping market. go back to the stone age where you mentality belongs.
@amilliongodsblog If you can watch the video of HLS and it's 7 undercover investigations and justify it, you are a sick evil person. Cosmetic and toxicity testing on animals isn't even required by law, pharmaceuticals are and where has that gotten us??? Millions of people dying from medicines proven SAFE in animals. There ARE alternatives. It's time we left the dark ages and find new safer ways to replace animals. Animal research is unethical and barbaric.
@blacksoftailharley I work in a place without medicine. In the USA (one of the worst healthcare systems in the western world) 6/1000 babies die in the first year. In India it is 60. In many parts of the world that number is even higher because there is no medicine. You don't know what it's like without medicine. Some people do.
Trust me there is no alternative for a living human. Animals are poor second place as a model. There is no artificial system that comes even close to being called 3rd.
@AaronCrossNZ We cannot use humans because we often have to test destructively and using humans is unethical. I would rather kill a mouse to find out how hearing works than kill a deaf child. You may not, but then thank goodness I am in medicine and you are not.
And one finds that vegans and animal rights movement people being the least willing to volunteer for human phase of medical experiments.
@amilliongodsblog Your use of the word ethical would be laughable if such arrogance didnt bring extreme pain and suffering to animals, so you can make a name for yourself.
No one would volunteer to be subjects of your experiments, but animals still suffer in your name.
Why not walk the talk any experiment on yourself? Why make others suffer when you don't have the integrity? And before you argue they are just animals, I wonder, does your prejudice extend to race and gender as well?
@AaronCrossNZ A name for myself? I just want to make enough money to live comfortably and do a job I enjoy. Medicine is something I enjoy.
No one volunteers for the early stages because they involve destructive testing to find the limits or permanent damage or death. Animals suffer in your name but I don't see you fighting pesticide and rat poison use.
And I have volunteered for experimentation. I donate blood and marrow as well and am on organ donor lists.
@amilliongodsblog "We must attack the evil forces that are destroying this planet and all the animals who inhabit it. Human and non human alike. Strengthen your army and expose the truth at all costs. Human Freedom, Animal Rights; One struggle one FIGHT! In solidarity always." that all right !!! agree with you blacksoftailharley !!!!
@amilliongodsblog And i'll say this stupid man : give your blood and give your marrow ! people like you don't need blood because your better place will be when you will burn in hell! i hope this day will hurt you like you have done on innocent living animal ! you are so stupid that you are unable to understand that your work with tests in laboratory is not scientific ! We don't need you !! you like your job, we don't need you !!
@lanxiu I give blood so that others may live. My job is a medical student. I will be a doctor. You NEED my job and me really.
Maybe I am stupid, but I am not the hypocrite. You need medical attention just like every other person in the world. All of us have partaken of the benefits of medicine, its just that we aren't being a dick about it.
you guys rock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dutyhole1734 2 days ago
Anonymous --- YOU ARE AMAZING!! Thank you for this. I would join you in a second. You're hackers...come find me. I cannot thank you enough for doing this. You speak the truth. We need more of it. Bravo! AC
AECote1 2 days ago 2
its true fuck. Animals are innocent. Only cowards prey on the innocent.
S1L3NTS0LD13R 3 days ago
@S1L3NTS0LD13R & it's our duty to protect the innocent from harm.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 3 days ago
is there anything i can do to help.. i wanna help.. i am a vegetarian.. usually vegan.. but went veg for my pregnancy and will return vegan as soon as my baby comes.. please let me know any petitions.. inside work anything i wanna help.. thank you
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TheWarch1ld 6 days ago
Watch Forks Over Knives or check out the Engine 2 diet ... all great strapping firefighters from New York who eat 'plant strong' and have found their health has increased, cholesterol dropped, all their numbers have improved and their sex lives too. Once you free yourself from dairy and meat you feel so incredibly fit and healthy it is just amazing.
testtube43 6 days ago
@testtube43 yes i can strongly believe that. hell, look at batman (christian bale) ffs! guys a veggie & in tiptop shape!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 days ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate. Well Cow’s, Sheep, goats etc, hoof’s dig into the ground due to the design of their hoofs, they will not control we’re they walk and eat and will literary destroy virgin land, putting rare fauna and native animals like lizards, frogs and birds in danger. The ecosystem is a very sensitive system so well you may be helping some animals out you’d be putting others at risk. However I do not believe animal testing our products is right that’s 1 thing I do agree on.
cam181990 6 days ago
@cam181990 I agree with you to an extent. I don't think this video is intended to ask that all farm animals be set free. It's that their rights not be violated. Our system allows us to eat and waste too much meat than what is sustainable (ie. feeding the livestock enough grains to feed the entire world just so a few nations can eat it, not being able to manage fecal matter). Factory farms should be given proper vet care and euthanized if needed.
Tzara86 6 days ago
@Tzara86 Just to make sure I understood what you're saying. Factory farms should continue to operate but you're asking that stricter rules be in place and enforced such as limiting grain feed or the conditions of the farms are in etc. Is that what you're saying? Because technically that wouldn't be liberation
cam181990 6 days ago
@cam181990 If our demands for meat are that high that we can remove any dignity that the animal has to enjoy what little life it has, why shouldn't there be standards? That's not anti-liberal. That's like saying we should keep allowing sodium fluoride in our drinking water, GMO's, mercury in vaccines, and no standards in any industry because then the companies would be oppressed. Companies aren't people, therefore a factory farm that tortures animals shouldn't be granted free liberty.
Tzara86 5 days ago
@cam181990 This requires though that people mutually agree that factory farming is wrong (and most people do), and that our appointed governance actually act upon the will of the people. Set strict guidelines and implement enforcement through inspection of animal welfare at random intervals. The only reason we are being allowed to eat as much meat as we do is because there is no one telling the farmers that animal welfare > profit. If there is less product, we eat meat less.
Tzara86 6 days ago
@cam181990 Farm animals are farm animals is the bottom line. Not just set them free and expect people to hunt it or eat nothing but spinach and broccoli. If the price of meat rises, this is where free energy comes into play. Why the hell can't we power absolutely everything with clean, nearly free energy? Oh, that's right, profits of the elite oil/nuclear/coal/etc share holders. Don't allow them to suppress this; then we can eat healthily AND with very little cost.
Tzara86 6 days ago
@Tzara86 I'm not sure where you are but here in Australia we already have standards to protect farm animals from abuse. However I am aware that countries such as India are still unregulated and we would need to make these (unregulated) countries aware they need to act.
cam181990 5 days ago
@cam181990 I'm in Canada. How about you watch Meet your Meat on YouTube to understand what goes on here and in the U.S.
Tzara86 4 days ago
@Tzara86 I'm guessing by this video you are telling me that the regulations over there are either to leaniant or non exsistant. The thing i don't understand is why this happens, because if the meat is brusied from beating an animal it's only good for dog food, so it create's waste. So what i'd like to see is the removal of battery cages (we can get cage free products) and better protection of animals from abuse and ill be happy
cam181990 4 days ago
@cam181990 Sadly, a lot of our 'packaged' foods are dog food quality. There is no regulation and I can imagine that meat that looks damaged just goes in with the carcass for the chemical treatments to break it down into 'mechanically separated meats' for hotdogs/bologna/etc. There are no regulations and therefore, no waste. The way they've been allowed to treat animals is highly profitable, hence the backlash of people not eating meat products anymore. Even the 'free range' products
Tzara86 1 day ago
@cam181990 are under siege because 'farmers' will shove them into a warehouse where they can roam freely on the floor, but are still suffocating in ammonia from dense populations, piling on top of each other and label it free range :( It's not safe to say free range anymore, you have to literally go to the farm if you care about what you eat here. It's terrible! Regulations and some sort of random checks to enforce the animals welfare would be an excellent start.
Tzara86 1 day ago
Animals Are our friends. But I am sorry. unfortunately, there really is something called "the circle of life." And many times it does require one species to feed off of others. I was told in middle school that eating meat allowed our brains to grow. I saw another study not too long ago that said it was possibly cooked meat that decreased our gut size, and increased our brain. The animals we feed off deserve our respect, but I dare you to put a lion on a vegi diet. These our my thoughts. Peace.
astro15 6 days ago
@astro15 I agree, but this world is based on profits. People who stop eating meat are doing the only think they know they can do to stop supporting the system. They do a lot more than protect animal rights when they eat veges. They refuse to support the #1 greenhouse gas emission producer than all cars/trains/planes in any year. Transport and feeding the animals is all very profitable for petrol. And of course there is manure. The issue here is our methods of production. Cont'd...
Tzara86 6 days ago
@astro15 We need access to equipment that operates with clean and free energy (solar/wind/water, initial investment and maintenance fees are nothing compared to petrol). Until then, we should all at least cut back on the meat. And start demanding that engineers and scientists be not only allowed, but funded by our tax dollars to develop these technologies regardless of anyone's wallet/money clip.
Tzara86 6 days ago
Take a look at the new Fendi fashion show, unbelievably cruel and horrific they have masses of fur, from many different animals antelope, mink, crocodile ... words fail me ....
testtube43 6 days ago
i know im properly gunna be shot for commenting here but animal liberation i reckon would be a bad idea because we do need to control animal population simply to protect other species. We caint just set all animals free and be done with it, it would damage the ecology
cam181990 1 week ago
@cam181990 so you'd prefer to continue to murder innocent beings at the slaughterhouses, let animals be vivisectated in labs & locked up behind bars in zoos? protect what species exactly? sheep? cows? pigs? your gonna have to explain better!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 1 week ago 2
@cam181990 sigh. that is a load of bull. we are the ones responsible for destroying ecosystems. there are seven billion people on the planet, way too much to continue eating and living like we do. nature has a way of keeping things in control, we do not, and we are the ones who are out of control. not to mention the fact that most of the food we eat is very limited. only certain plants and certain animals. let nature control things, not us.
applejacks2 5 days ago
@applejacks2 Believe what ya want dude. Yes we played our part in affecting nature but we've become aware of that, but i've seen the damage a herd of cows can do. They broke out of there paddock into the swap we had, turned it to a mud soup lucky it was only a small 1 then we spent several hours recovering some of them that were stuck. Also most farm animals were introduced in Australia so they would threaten the native animals and fauna due to the shear population we have.
cam181990 5 days ago
@applejacks2 However we would be the ones to blame for that but there won't be any easyfixes in reversing the impact
cam181990 5 days ago
This video scared the shit out of me. wtf.
DontJudgeBlad 1 week ago
I struggled to watch this, but thank you for making the video nonetheless. It needs to be seen.
zcheeseolly 2 weeks ago
Best Anon message yet.
TrueBlueAustralian 2 weeks ago
Animal liberation!! Human liberation!! Go Vegan!!
giners49 2 weeks ago
going veg is one of the best choices you can make & no one but YOURSELF can make that choice.You can't blame anyone else for your choice to aid the cruel industries and fuel their fires and fill their blood soaked pockets.From the de-beaking of chicks and the injections of hormones which cause animals to become obese and broken and unable to form bones,to the pens in which pigs, after having their tails ripped off,turn to cannibalism and eat their brethren out of starvation and disease.Help them
EatTheJunge 2 weeks ago
GO VEGAN.
seitanicslut666 2 weeks ago
I've been vegetarian for awhile, and find that it actually helps my athletics. I thought phasing (fazing?) meat out of my diet would be detrimental to my muscles, but as it turns out, it isn't. Please, you can definitely make vegetarianism work in your diet. I have, and I will message anyone who wants to chat about switching from an omnivorous diet to a vegetarian diet.
Good luck to all working toward this goal. I'm doing my part...what about you?
alexgerber102 2 weeks ago
ABSOLUTELY WITH YOU!!! IT IS TIME TO FREE ANIMALS FROM HUMAN´S ABUSE AND EXPLOTATION !!!
katzleilacarrillo 2 weeks ago
<3
64mmm 2 weeks ago
Respect!!
ChantalGOVEGAN 3 weeks ago 2
The People from "Animal Liberation" are all very easy!!!
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Dobifreund 3 weeks ago
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Dobifreund 3 weeks ago
I am so happy to hear that Anonymous now will speak out for the voiceless, I hope they join us in our battles against slavery (SeaWorld), agains slaughters (Faroes, Taiji, Namibia, etc), against all types of cruelty and greed (Mitsubishi and their blufin tuna warehouse). Anonymous please join us in our fight for animal freedom.
crispycely 3 weeks ago 2
Truly, please look at the videos, watch Earthlings. Humans MUST learn what is and has been happening for us to evolve into the proper humans this 21st century demands and deserves.
freedomallsentients 3 weeks ago
Love this! Finally, more help for the innocent voiceless. There has been atrocities towards non-human animals for much too long. The depravity is beyond belief. Animal experimentation, eating dogs, cats, all animals. The animals in factory farms is nothing more than concentration camps, even worse. Pets abused in oh so many ways, Fur, Circuses, losing their environment (jungles), trapping, hunting, the list goes on.
freedomallsentients 3 weeks ago
Anonymous a pic on facebook is going around of two guys hanging a dog that pissed me off so much why tha fuck would you do that!
shindow89 1 month ago
95% of animals used are rabbits and mice, yet all of these are animals such as dogs and primates! Interesting! Hmmmm....
mfm77x38 1 month ago
@mfm77x38 you just took that number out the air didnt you? where you going with this?
christoffeeer 1 month ago
@mfm77x38 Just because many are rabbits and mice, that makes it okay? They ALSO think, feel and want to live. NO animals should have to die for people. All vivisection is is fallacious pseudo-science for those who don't have the mental or moral capacity to conduct REAL science. To them, it is all about "publish or perish" and not really about finding answers.
geist122 3 weeks ago
@mfm77x38 the Government requires that for all new medicines they are to be tested on two species of animals. One on rodents and the second on a non rodent such as a dog or monkey before they are tested in people for the first time in clinical trials. So as you can see that is why the dogs and primates are being rescued here in the video.
emmijadeable 2 weeks ago
Great vid!! This is an incredibly important issue to me. I love you!!! Respect <333
TheSamara89kitten 3 months ago 3
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64mmm 3 months ago
@TheOriginal3P seriously the law is a lie you faggot...when has the law ever helped anything fuck off
ErikDaApache 3 months ago
i have been an anon for years and now they will fight for it ill die for it on the frontlines
ErikDaApache 3 months ago
Annonymous, please join us in banning horse slaughter and the transport of US horses for slaughter for human consumption.
moondnce27 3 months ago
One more comment about the snake and I'll stop blabbing...
Had it been Opheodrys or Diadophis punctatus... I would have probably picked it up, said hello, and sent it on it's way. That's how I usually treat animals. Very gently, and with respect.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
Love and compassion are the new hate and greed. Your children are waking up. Why don't you?
Vuntry 4 months ago
Thanks!
Awesomechild96 5 months ago
Just out of curiosity, what are the alternatives to animal testing. I'm not trying to start an argument here, I am truly curious.
Awesomechild96 5 months ago
@Awesomechild96 sure but the comment box isn't working when i paste these links, i'll PM u, there are many more to find by googling it.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 5 months ago
@Awesomechild96
Google it: "Alternatives to animal testing"
TheDrgayle 3 weeks ago
@Awesomechild96
Only human experiments are reliable and effective but we do not use humans for ethical reasons. Not even dying people or people in coma.
Animal experiments are not only non-reliable, but they are also unethical.
It's a business. A huge business built upon those who can never rebel. Being their voice is the only decent thing to do.
cristinadecaleal 1 week ago
Thank you. I can think of a few experiments of my own that I'd like to do on the vivisectionists. Most of them involve a baseball bat. Namaste.
NewDayDawning2012 6 months ago 15
phhhhlllttt!
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe got something to say?
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate As long as humans war against one another I will phhhhlllttt at anyone who says "animal rights."
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe human & animal rights are as important as each other. human + animal = earthling.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago 3
@TheAnonymousAdvocate When speaking of Nature we can turn to our fellow creatures for understanding.. and I see nothing in all of them resembling "animal rights."
They're eating one another alive.
Who do you think was the first to eat meat.. us or them?
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe they deserve the right to life & live with their families as we wish to. animals attack animals cause it's survival, kill or be killed. they don't know any better, but we do & humans can live perfectly fine without killing & eating animals.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago 2
@TheAnonymousAdvocate I believe humans were designed to eat from plants. I disagree with you about the reason why we should care for other creatures. It's not because we're equal with them that they deserve our care, but because they are less than us. That requires humbling our selves.
Giving up meat eating, is giving up a freedom to do a thing. That requires humbling our selves.
EliasCrowe 6 months ago 2
@EliasCrowe well if we figured that out when we were cave people we wouldn't have this problem. i don't mean by equal that we're both of the same specie. i meant that both species are born on this planet, which makes the animals like us earthlings & my main reason is bcoz animals are innocent, unless an animal has attacked sum1, no1 has any reason to kill a innocent living being. animals have done nothing to deserve to die for meat & just bcoz we're more or less smarter then them isn't (1/2)
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe a good enough reason to kill them.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate Looking For Changes.
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe 1 more thing, u wrote the freedom to do a thing, well killing another living being isn't exactly freedom. u might as well say the same about rapists.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate The only animal I myself have killed (besides bugs) is a rattlesnake, and I done that to protect my cats. Then I found out that there is a stupid law that says I'm not allowed to do that.. NO.. I have to let poisoness snakes crawl on my porch because of some stupid law made to protect them.
Now are you going to tell me that me that killing the rattlesnake was as bad as me raping somebody?
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe If you had an ounce of brain in your head, you'd've realized you could simply call animal control to come out and CAPTURE the snake and have it removed to a location distant from your own home, without needlessly killing it. I once saw a stupid idiot like you, beating a snake on a hiking path - a non-poisonous snake. I approached him and kicked his feet out from under him. He landed on his ass and started swearing at me as I walked away. I felt very satisfied at that encounter.
TheMercilessEye 4 months ago
@TheMercilessEye Animal Control? For Pete's sake.. Animal Control only exists in places were animals can't exist freely. That's not the case where I live.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
@TheMercilessEye I think it's horrible hypocrisy for people who live in towns and cities to call for the liberation of animals. Why if they ever see a rattlesnake they'd probably call "animal control" and have some one swoop in and take care of the "problem". Some liberation they got going there.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
@EliasCrowe What, specifically, do you attribute as 'horrible hypocrisy' for people who live in town and cities to call for the liberation of animals? If they see a rattlesnake and call animal control, most typically the animal is relocated to an area devoid of human population. Do you actually have anything substantial to cite as a factual basis justifying this value judgment, or are you simply blowing smoke without any real basis for doing so?
TheMercilessEye 4 months ago
@TheMercilessEye You shouldn't need me to cite anything to realize that human cities are the worse places for animals to exist.
If an animal has to be relocated for the sake of human population.. it is not free.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
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@EliasCrowe "If an animal has to be relocated for the sake of human population.. it is not free."
More flapdoodle. If an animal is relocated, it is released, outside, in a cage-free environment.
It is not me who is being unreasonable: it is you who is being stupid.
TheMercilessEye 4 months ago
@TheMercilessEye It's strange to answer a question that has the answer within it.
Spefically.. it's because they live in cities.
If they lived in the wilderness where animals have much more freedom, then it wouldn't be hypocrisy. >>> They would be embracing the fact that humans and animals can live together.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
@EliasCrowe This from the man who'd've preferred to KILL the rattlesnake, eh?
I sense an aroma redolent of irony, hypocrisy, and FAIL...and it cometh from thou...
TheMercilessEye 4 months ago
@TheMercilessEye I didn't prefer to kill the snake, and you're wrong to assume that killing was my initial reaction to the situation.
You don't seem reasonable.
EliasCrowe 4 months ago
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@EliasCrowe "The only animal I myself have killed (besides bugs) is a rattlesnake, and I done that to protect my cats. Then I found out that there is a stupid law that says I'm not allowed to do that.. NO.. I have to let poisoness snakes crawl on my porch because of some stupid law made to protect them."
If killing the snake wasn't your initial reaction to the situation, then what are you whining about, here, in this paragraph?
TheMercilessEye 4 months ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate I find your idea of "animals rights" is based in vanity.
EliasCrowe 6 months ago
@EliasCrowe won't agrue there, i am proud to be a veggie. it's a big responsibility. animals are my friends & i don't kill or eat my friends..
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago 13
@TheAnonymousAdvocate The world needs more people that think like us. I am a vegetarian and I did it because I am an animal lover. I even go through a list of items that are not tested on animals and carry it with me.
MindRapeHa 1 week ago
@MindRapeHa i should do that as well with the list & yes same reason as all veggies go off meat cause we're animal lovers & consider animals our friends & we don't eat out friends.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 1 week ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate Maybe you should make a video and let people know what goes on at the shelters here in the United States. How many healthy dogs and cats are put to sleep every day. =/ Not many people know what goes on and it would be a great idea to let people know.
MindRapeHa 1 week ago
@MindRapeHa *nods* yes. very good idea. i will. credit will go to you for the idea. i'll remember to put it in the video. ;-)
TheAnonymousAdvocate 1 week ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate No need for the credit. I'm glad that you're taking time to make the video. Thanks.
MindRapeHa 1 week ago
oh and one more thing human rights are just as important as animal rights.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
@asporao hahahaha this has to be the most ignorant comment on this page. where's your proof? oh you've been watching me eat? cause i never throw away food...genius & animals are self-continous, otherwise they wouldn't have to ability to survive and move around! they're living SENITEL beings with a central nervous system like us, which makes them self-continuous, you brainless twat! go back to fuckin' school and do some homework! another douchebag that's been killed on this page. BRING EM ON!!!!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
I recommend not including your personal opinions about being vegan, vegetarian, ext. That is not a choice for you to make, and it will offend millions of people. Humans have eaten meat from the very beginning, we need the protein. I am an animal lover and would like to particpate in activsm. I also like to eat meat and eggs. What I am against is the cruelty enacted upon animals. We can kill them without hurting them. They should be awarded better lives and shown respect.
sunnymichele1981 6 months ago
@sunnymichele1981 oh so u like humane killing of animals? there is no humane way of killing, just the same there is no humane war, raptist, robbery etc. why would it offend millions? do some homework, there are millions of other ways to get protein. if your a real animal lover and friend you wouldn't eat them. animals are MY friends, not you, cause i don't eat or kill my friends...
TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago 3
"Without cruelty there is no celebration"
-Friedrich Nietzsche
Insabanua 6 months ago
Anonymous=Edited-Christians.
Insabanua 6 months ago
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Bartek2205 6 months ago
@amilliongodsblog. Hmmm. I think you missed my point. I know there is no hierarchial life structure, but the masses believe there are and deem other species of less value. The "we come first attitude" is a human construction. PS: I don't eat cows, or any animal. Nevermind. End of conversation for me.
9hootyowl 7 months ago
I am behind you 100%. It's barbaric how these beautiful, innocent animals are tortured.
Thank you so much for speaking up for animals. You are my heroes.
ucry4me72 7 months ago 2
Thanks for acting & caring for the voiceless .
LydianS99 7 months ago
Thank you for posting this video. All species have the right to enjoy their lives deserving of the same respect and freedom we would like for ourselves. NO HIERARCHIAL LIFE STRUCTRE. Any one who perceives a hierarchial life structure is living with a false perception according to life on earth. When a tsunami hits, human life has as much value as a cow or ant. Only human arrogance and barbarity perceive it otherwise. We are the scourge of the earth.
9hootyowl 7 months ago
@9hootyowl So lions are evil because they eat deer? There is no heirarchical structure to life, only a "we come first" attitude. Humans are just capable of being responsible in that regards. A lion will eat you not because of heirarchy but because you are food. In the same way that we eat a cow.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
Thank you Animal Liberation. May you gain the strength and momentum to bring this to the world. We must fight for those with no voice. GOD Bless!!!
penelopeannj 7 months ago
Not sure if trolling, or if actually cares about animal rights... Either way this will get good publicity.
Fallen80sChild 7 months ago
Yes! But putting the focus on meat makes it seem like vegetarianism is a valid moral standpoint- it is not! Go vegan!
seymourLlama 7 months ago
@ImagineThersNoHeaven agreed! The ruling elite must be exposed and eliminated.
blacksoftailharley 7 months ago
Anonymous, thank you for this video and thank you for joining the struggle for Animal Liberation. YOU have the power to really make changes. This/YOUR message MUST reach the masses. We must attack the evil forces that are destroying this planet and all the animals who inhabit it. Human and non human alike. Strengthen your army and expose the truth at all costs. Human Freedom, Animal Rights; One struggle one FIGHT! In solidarity always.
blacksoftailharley 7 months ago 19
@blacksoftailharley thankyou, animals deserve to right to life just as any normal person does. we are all earthlings. the day will come when the animals have their rights, just the same as the day came when black people their rights during racial segregation period. we will be victorious!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago 9
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I used to like you guys. Now you have just declared me as your enemy because I use real medicine and real science to learn how to treat people which involves balanced diets and drugs tested on animals.
Every single one of you has indulged in the products of animal testing for your own benefit yet are trying to deny it to others.
There are no alternatives to animal testing, any that exist were developed through testing and are being used anyways.
It's a sad day for internet activism.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog
well you obviously haven't been a good researcher, it's funny how our scientists in europe have PROVEN and TESTED alternatives in europe. the days of animal testing in europe is ending...you can't stop us...no-one can...we're on the rise, the wheels are in motion and people are sitting in our cars for the ride! i'll give you a hint to point you in the right direction. google it. it's never a sad day for internet activism.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago 23
@TheAnonymousAdvocate They have not. They have replaced specific aspects of testing, not the whole.
We require in Vivo testing solely because our bodies systems interact with each other and there is no model for the interaction of living organs with each other. As I have stated, I have no idea about computers. I do however understand medicine and have seen the arguments. Trust me, all you are doing is harming scientists and sick people. You are making an argument from the privilege of health.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@TheAnonymousAdvocate go on in this fight ! this is a gold fight because it's to preserve innocent victims from some humans cruality !! they are not researcher they are monster under human face! i wish them to suffer like they have made suffering ! please don't forget those sadic peoples, those lobbies who give the dead . We are a lot to follow you in your action and wish you good luck! Animals need your help ! Good luck to A.L.F too !!!!!
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lanxiu 7 months ago 2
@amilliongodsblog It's not funny the way people like you always find a way to justify torture and murder.
This is on the grounds that you save life by killing and it would appear in your case because it keeps you well supplied with that human evil called money.
The countless beauty products that get tested on animals just serve to increase the hypocrisy of the human race who because of them and similar stupidities think they are more "intelligent" than our fellow animals.
You are sad .
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
Yes. And what's wrong with money?
Your internet is purchased with money. Your entire western lifestyle is because you have money. Don't look so badly at it. Money is just paper, plastic and faith.
I don't like beauty product testing, most doctors don't. I do however know that biology and medicine have to be tested on living things. Not to mention some toxic substances that we use like pesticides that are vital.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog Your a Doctor and you have to ask what is wrong with money ????
Are you going to ask what's wrong with atomic bombs and all the other weapons used to perpetuate that western lifestyle ???
You are living a cushioned "Ivory Tower" !
Now thanks to Global Warming brought about by human obsession with gaining wealth, countless more are starving and the street kids in Brazil no doubt still getting rounded up and shot.
We would all be much happier if we had stayed in the trees.
Peace
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
Yes. Because having money is awesome. Remember. By the standards of my patients you are rich. I am actually a medical student. I will be a doctor in 2 and a Half years.
I live in India. I travel 4 hours a day to villages to treat people. Trust me, it's less ivory tower and more mountain of elephant excrement.
If we lived in trees I would have died either at birth or within the first 10 years of life. I wear glasses. Chances are you wouldn't have survived either.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog sorry but you implied that you were a Doctor and I think I must have mistakenly assumed that you where one of the well fed sort that get lots of money from dodgy drug companies like we have in this country.
But now I'm not sure what you are making up and not.
I would love to see the East I have to admit my knowledge of the human condition is based around the British mentality.
I got as far as Holland when I attempted to travel that way.
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 In the UK? My parents are doctors. You don't get any money from drug companies. Infact in the UK they aren't paid as much as they could normally earn should they go private. My mother's salary is capped at 60,000 quid. In private she is worth nearly 250,000 pounds a year. She is a breast cancer surgeon. Every day she saves lives. It's not an idle boast, its truth.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 In the UK? My parents are doctors. You don't get any money from drug companies. Infact in the UK they aren't paid as much as they could normally earn should they go private. Trust me, doctors are paid for their skill. It takes nearly 10 years to train as one and they are damned if they are going to earn less than your plumber.
No one is making up anything. You just don't see the process by which lives are saved.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog this conversation has gone a long way from the original point, which is the abuse of animals for humans to maintain an ever more expensive lifestyle by as you point out paying their Doctors well !
I take it then you have no faith in the law of Karma ?
Following the idea that everyone gets what they deserve due to the energy that they give out people get disease due to the fact they are in conflict with their higher mind/bodies.
I know mostly things boil down to the simple -
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 There is no Karma. I am an atheist and an ex-hindu. Karma was used to oppress the untouchables by stating that their lives sucked because they were wicked in a previous life. It's still the excuse people use. And I do believe what you are flogging here is industrial grade woo.
And it amuses me that Karma seems to affect only poor people. And disease is caused by pathological and physiological events. There are giant textbooks of such mechanisms, not energy/mind/body.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog Ha Ha Ha !
You would need to be an atheist to believe so strongly in Western Medicine !
I don't believe in reincarnation as such but people plainly get what they give in this world.
Cancer is a good example of this, it is a Rich Man's illness where the body starts to break away from it's original form as parts of the body try to separate from the whole and go their own way so to speak, presumably because they have more sense than the mind.
Peace ;-)
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Yes, poor people so plainly deserve poverty. I should start telling my patients that their babies are dying because they deserve it.
Cancer affects poor people. I have plenty of cancer patients of people who earn less than $ 20 a week. And cancer works by the breakdown of DNA. It's why smokers get more lung cancer than non smokers. Not because they are richer, but because of DNA damage from smoke.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog equation that energy in equals energy out.
So rich people can pay their Doctors to cure them to compensate for their own Bad Karma.
The Doctors presumably like other Good Holy Men having enough Good Karma to spare on account of all the lives they have saved.
But going back to vivisection you medical lot are accumulating a whole load of Bad Karma by abusing our fellow creatures, this all may well come back to you with a large bang.
I am amused by all the health (pandemic) scares
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Doctors are not holy, nor good. We are just doing a job. Science is neutral and doesn't place such monikers on itself.
All you are doing is understanding how things work so you can apply the principles to improving our lives and coincidentally the lives of animals. Animal rights do not exist in africa because human rights are so appalling. It is privilege which lets you make your argument, not karma. Starvation would make you change your mind about animal equality.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog Scares that centre around diseases that are past to humans from animals.(bird Flu, BSE etc)
This is clearly a sign that this is a result of Bad Karma due to the way we humans factory farm animals and abuse them in labs.
So your argument that you are saving lives may well fall flat when a massive pandemic kills a large amount of people due to you lot messing with things.
This may ALREADY have happened with AIDS.
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 This alone shows how blinded you are. All Flu is zoonotic and affects both man and poultry. CJD (BSE doesn't affect humans) at its peak killed 40 people. Diarrhoea probably killed that many people in a few hours today.
The difference between H1N1 and the post WW1 pandemic was that we have modern medical technology now. Modern H1N1 has killed 25174 people. Spanish flu post WW1 (Also H1N1) killed 50 million people.
And HIV/AIDS numbers are going down. Officially.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog There are stories as to the origin of the HIV virus having originally been passed from monkeys to humans !!
Also the guy who went to investigate if the disease had been accidentally been created by people making a new form of vaccine (using Monkeys) was plainly Bumped Off !
Some people say that you only have to glance at the Virus to see it is Man Made ( by the CIA ! ), the amount of Microbiologists that die under unusual circumstances gives much credence to this theory.
Peace
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@SimplisticSusans7o67 Why would we make a virus so ludicrously slow acting as HIV when we have something like Ebola to use? Or bacterial meningitis. I mean HIV is a retarded weapon considering you can live for 20 years plus with the disease. It's not engineered, there are similar viruses in many other animals including cats,
And glance at what virus? HIV. I suggest looking at EM (non scanning) of one. They look like little circles with a piece of DNA in the middle. Like most other viruses.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog I think the reason I was arrested and put back on the ferry to England was because of what the police have written in their computers about me !!
Peace ;-)
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog yes weaklings like you would've died, its the natural way.
AaronCrossNZ 7 months ago
@AaronCrossNZ The natural way involves 1/3 of us dying in our first year and most of us dying by 35 to 40. The natural way can go fuck itself.
I shall point out that talking to other people via tame lightning produced by burning 60 million year old dead monsters on a device made out plastic, metal and sand is not natural either. But here we are talking on our computers on the internet. We don't do things naturally, that's the human way. Farming isn't natural either yet you seem to like it.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog and another thing if you think I enjoy using computers and this ducking internet, I DON'T.
The only reason I originally started on this site was because some C*&^ had put footage of ME on here.
This was footage filmed as the authorities always do WITHOUT my CONSENT.
That is why I had to sign into all this shit so as to object to that.
Peace ;-)
SimplisticSusans7o67 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog You should know animal testing is not necessary and does not give any viable informations as to how the medecine or other products will react when used by humans. There are other means to test harmful ingredients (one idea would be to not use them at all...), there is artificial skin products can be tested on, consensual human beings, and more. Using other species as commodities is morally wrong, no matter what excuse you give for it.
seymourLlama 7 months ago
@seymourLlama A rat or a rabbit is not a human being. Should you starve you will kill and eat that rabbit in a heart beat. All humans are predators, you don't need canines and big brains to out think grass. Animal testing is 100% necessary for medical and biological research because we cannot experiment on human beings and there is no replacement for an entire functioning creature.
We do use human volunteers but not for things that will kill humans. Destructive testing is vital to medicine.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog It stands on the concept that other species are less important than humans, which is speciesist. If you wouldn't agree to test medicine on a child, it does not make sense that you would agree to test it on a rat or a rabbit. They both want to live just as bad.
seymourLlama 7 months ago
@seymourLlama Speciest we may be, but how many animals die to keep your food supply and streets clean of vermin. Mice and rats are vermin mate, and farmers butcher them to keep your food nice and cheap and your streets free of disease. Per person per year, your food probably causes more death than my medicine. If you tried to grow food the old way then you would starve and die.
There are some things you cannot test on humans without damaging them forever. For that we use animals.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
Why should good animals have to suffer to keep people like you alive? What do you contribute thats so phenomenal that others should die and suffer tortourously in your name?
Anonymous you are so important to us. To them, to decency and morality. Keep Going and never stop!
AaronCrossNZ 7 months ago 2
@amilliongodsblog ^
AaronCrossNZ 7 months ago
Why should animals die solely for your food supply? Why should animals die solely for the cleanliness of your city and to control disease? Why should you partake in medical technology but seek to deny it to others?
Same reason.
I am a medical student, I will save lives. I am not really that important to you, but to those who need me I am. A more apt question is, why should we save you? You don't think our work is valuable, not until you need it to live. Must hippocrats suffer hypocrites?
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog THIS IS GREAT DAY FOR INTERNET ACTIVISM, BUT SAD DAY FOR YOU because you show by your comment, how you are stupid and without any knowledge ! sure, that is a bad day for you
lanxiu 7 months ago
Well Done !
The Bastards need to get what they deserve....
Peace ;-)
RadioPsiHAWKlogCent0 7 months ago
"WE are Anonymous" , yes im supported
dandybest76 7 months ago
If you want to make a start then look into and contact Huntingdon life science and tell them what you think of them. don't buy products that they test and spread the word. the time will come and in the name of all those animals that suffered in these establishments we will burn it to the ground and anywhere like it.
komaki119 7 months ago 3
@komaki119 very good, HLS are responsible of many animal cruelity crimes. this will be mentioned in a future video.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago 2
@TheAnonymousAdvocate what gets me is how they are still operating, man they really don't fear much least of all their conscience. its going to take many of us to smash this place, when the time comes.
komaki119 7 months ago 2
@komaki119 yes it will take many of us, but it's all in motion. there's more activists now then before & it'll keep on growing.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago 2
@komaki119 @komaki119 HLS?
They test your pesticides and your fertilisers. Your medicines, your surgical tools and techniques. They test products they use on animals and they test all substances for toxicity.
Do you know who writes out the maximum safe levels for use of these essential products. Every single person here is reliant on pesticides and medicine. You are threatening scientists, doctors and farmers. All you are doing is ruining research with your stance.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog
if u even bothered to watch my video, you'd hear that i said there are ALTERNATIVES to animal testing. there's even a picture of one of the many alternatives...
they are less cruel & cost less! it's been proven by fuckin' scientists animal testings are a waste especially since the animals in HLS are being treated like SHIT! get it?!
do some fuckin' homework before ignorant people like you come on this video!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog science? you mean the betterment of knowledge for our species? there is no science at HLS just monsters.
we do not need pesticides, we do not need fertilises, organic works just fine.
you comment sickens me, you would allow our species to abuse others for our own betterment.
stop pretending to be an advocate of science when in fact your just a consumer that cant stand to lose an isle or two at the shopping market. go back to the stone age where you mentality belongs.
komaki119 7 months ago 2
@komaki119 hahaha yeah the word science doesn't apply to HLS.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog If you can watch the video of HLS and it's 7 undercover investigations and justify it, you are a sick evil person. Cosmetic and toxicity testing on animals isn't even required by law, pharmaceuticals are and where has that gotten us??? Millions of people dying from medicines proven SAFE in animals. There ARE alternatives. It's time we left the dark ages and find new safer ways to replace animals. Animal research is unethical and barbaric.
blacksoftailharley 7 months ago 2
@blacksoftailharley I work in a place without medicine. In the USA (one of the worst healthcare systems in the western world) 6/1000 babies die in the first year. In India it is 60. In many parts of the world that number is even higher because there is no medicine. You don't know what it's like without medicine. Some people do.
Trust me there is no alternative for a living human. Animals are poor second place as a model. There is no artificial system that comes even close to being called 3rd.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog Then use humans dipshit.
AaronCrossNZ 7 months ago
@AaronCrossNZ We cannot use humans because we often have to test destructively and using humans is unethical. I would rather kill a mouse to find out how hearing works than kill a deaf child. You may not, but then thank goodness I am in medicine and you are not.
And one finds that vegans and animal rights movement people being the least willing to volunteer for human phase of medical experiments.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog Your use of the word ethical would be laughable if such arrogance didnt bring extreme pain and suffering to animals, so you can make a name for yourself.
No one would volunteer to be subjects of your experiments, but animals still suffer in your name.
Why not walk the talk any experiment on yourself? Why make others suffer when you don't have the integrity? And before you argue they are just animals, I wonder, does your prejudice extend to race and gender as well?
AaronCrossNZ 7 months ago
@AaronCrossNZ A name for myself? I just want to make enough money to live comfortably and do a job I enjoy. Medicine is something I enjoy.
No one volunteers for the early stages because they involve destructive testing to find the limits or permanent damage or death. Animals suffer in your name but I don't see you fighting pesticide and rat poison use.
And I have volunteered for experimentation. I donate blood and marrow as well and am on organ donor lists.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago
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@amilliongodsblog "We must attack the evil forces that are destroying this planet and all the animals who inhabit it. Human and non human alike. Strengthen your army and expose the truth at all costs. Human Freedom, Animal Rights; One struggle one FIGHT! In solidarity always." that all right !!! agree with you blacksoftailharley !!!!
lanxiu 7 months ago
@amilliongodsblog And i'll say this stupid man : give your blood and give your marrow ! people like you don't need blood because your better place will be when you will burn in hell! i hope this day will hurt you like you have done on innocent living animal ! you are so stupid that you are unable to understand that your work with tests in laboratory is not scientific ! We don't need you !! you like your job, we don't need you !!
lanxiu 7 months ago
@lanxiu I give blood so that others may live. My job is a medical student. I will be a doctor. You NEED my job and me really.
Maybe I am stupid, but I am not the hypocrite. You need medical attention just like every other person in the world. All of us have partaken of the benefits of medicine, its just that we aren't being a dick about it.
amilliongodsblog 7 months ago