Fathers For Justice

[classaction666]

ONCE UPON A TIME AGO THEY SAID

WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO MY DAD

WAS IN MY BEST INTEREST. . .THEY FUCKING LIED.

We know what you have been doing to our fathers

in your corrupt family courts you sick mother fuckers

this is a world wide plot that is illegal & criminal.

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

How about all the selfish fathers out there that DONT bother with their kids? Dont pay maintenance, don't see their child? My son is 4. He has not seen his father since he was 18mths old. He does not have any contact - i have not stopped this. I went to court, so they can force him into seeing my son and still doesnt come - Fathers 4 Justice can kiss my ass - what are you doing to help MY son? Some fathers r excellent :-) and deserve to be a part of their childs life - my sons father doesnt!

[P4rtis4n]

@Heatherhickman1986lo "Fathers 4 Justice can kiss my ass - what are you doing to help MY son? Some fathers r excellent :-) and deserve to be a part of their childs life - my sons father doesnt!"

You Maddam, are a Fucking idiot. Fathers 4 Justice supports fathers who CARE and WANT to be part of their childs future. It's feckless sows (and the courts who support them) who insist on exploitation and sociopathic manipulation who often deny them this right.

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@P4rtis4n Fathers for justice are the reason i have to tell his father where i live, the reason i have to notify his father what school he goes to, if i go on holiday............ for a father that is CRAP and has had no imput in my sons life, why should he have the RIGHT to know these details. I think that u obviously havent read my statement - some fathers are excellent - and deserve rights -some dont and its the ones that dont that "mothers for Justice" need to help.

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@Heatherhickman1986lo Fathers for Justice get the rights fot the good fathers, but gives them to the bad parents as well, WITHOUT thinking of the consequences.... or the impact on the children.... Example - is is right that i had over my son to his father after 2 years of no contact, for an over night visit every weekend? NO its not! but because of fathers for justice and the "rights" that all fathers should have - i dont have a choice.

[P4rtis4n]

@Heatherhickman1986lo Fair enough, your comment you published later is more refined, so I apologise. The problem is bias. I am now of an opinion that the system fails where ever you look at it: equality is just as hypocritical, it has now become a revenge card for some. I know of a woman who took literally EVERYTHING from a man after she fucked him over using her child as a weapon, even disability pay from an accident, the courts allowed her to. He lives on the streets now.

[P4rtis4n]

@Heatherhickman1986lo So until deep-seated, far more rooted issues such as these get resolved, even using a courts system based on suitability (which is supposed to work) doesn't. May I add, this is all coming from someone who was late/said he had difficulties with payment, yet consistently blew cash on himself rather than my support.

I just know that there are a good number of dads who get their rights shat on by the likes of him, and I can not see how this is fair.

[MrBabies123]

Have also read evidence elsewhere that kids actually do better when their father has custody. Youngsters under 18 are obliged to undergo counselling when a long lost parent wants to get back into their lives (maybe it is the parent who needs counselling?) with the excuse it is essential that they have contact with both parents. If this is so why do the courts continually allow mothers to do as they wish regardless of others' happiness?

[MrBabies123]

Although I am a woman I fully support these fathers. There are far too many selfish cows who are able by the law to deny their children access with a much loved father. According to the law it is only the mother's happiness that counts - never the kids and father. Read a report in to the effects on children of these wicked mothers denying access and never felt so ashamed of my sex.

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@MrBabies123 Not all women stop their children seeing their fathers - i think thats horrible to use your child as a weapon.... however there are fathers out there who cant be bothered.

[defeatyourenemys]

for every guy who does not want to lose there life to a woman do not believe her when she says i love you coz love is evil look il show you (evol) (love) which in turn makes women evil

Proverbs 7:21 With persuasive words she led him astray; she seduced him with her smooth talk.

Proverbs 7:23 till an arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing it will cost him his life.

[TheInsaneTramp]

God I wish I had seen some of those stunts, especially the ones on York Minster (I live in York). Wow.

[themaniusedtob]

Men (who are fit) deserve equal time with their children PERIOD.

[molimhvalaizvoli]

you rock!!!

[inechiSAN]

Paedophile propaganda

[NobodyTossesADwarf91]

@inechiSAN that's rubbish. I'm 20 year old girl and I love my Dad, but my best memories of him are when I was a child. Children should not be deprived of their Father's love and a Father should not be deprived of their child's love.

Much respect to you F4J

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 my dad kills people and other bad things...

[NobodyTossesADwarf91]

@inechiSAN Hmm, good point. He sounds evil. But does every Father kill people? How about your ordinary male citizen who obeys the law, do they deserve to be separated from their children?

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 No, but most of the men is fathers for justice are paedophiles, wife beaters, or your average retard. Its retarded to say that the courts favour the women it’s a dirty lie. Men want to play the victim. There was this one man talking about how he never sees his kids and that the kids don’t wanna see him, and that one of the kids CHOSE to change their last name to the mothers THEY CHOSE! WHAT DID THE DAD DO TO THE KID TO MAKE THE KID WANNA CHANGE THEIR NAME EEHHH??

[NobodyTossesADwarf91]

@inechiSAN My uncle's wife had an affair and without warning kicked him out the house. That evening she lied to and manipulated their four daughters so that they didn't want to see him. It's taken about 7 years and they've finally started speaking to their Dad again. My example - what did he do wrong?

Besides, courts have always favoured women because it's traditionally a womans role to care for her children and I don't believe most of them are like you suggest. All the men in F4J are Dad's.

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 USING ONE WOMAN AS A EXAMPLE!!11 ALMOST ALL MEN I HAVE EVER KNOWN ARE FCUKING CRAZY AND WE HAD TO MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BIG ISLAND I COME FROM (you may know the name) BECAUSE OF 2 MEN! AND ONE MANS FAMILY OF MEN! (cant give out infomation to my lyf so it doesnt make sence) just forget about it dont even reply

[NobodyTossesADwarf91]

@inechiSAN I will reply if I choose, thanks.

Look, you've obviously experienced some horrible stuff due these men and that's awful, it really is. But you can't judge all men just because of these. I know some lovely blokes of all ages and from all walks of life who hate peadophiles, wife beaters and so on. They're not all the same!

I understand you can't explain who and what happened online, but I sincerely hope you heal, as no one deserves this much hate. God bless you.

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 I NEVER SAID ALL MEN YOU STUPID FUCK

ishtar blass you

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 ishtar bless you

[defeatyourenemys]

@inechiSAN you are a fucking dick. my wife left me for another guy and took my kids with her and has stopped from seeing them and i aint no woman beater or pedo as you have called these men women are blood sucking whores who drain the life out of men and if you are a woman youve probs done it yourself drained a guys life women use kids as weapons to point score women like you. people like u are vile your animals and need to be put down

[inechiSAN]

@defeatyourenemys wait.. WTF im 17 autistic staying a virgin modesty forever, im not getting involved with humans with penises, because most of them wanna make me into a rape slave cooking babyshitter and steal my music as their own (yeah its bean 7months and i call woman humans with vaginas now because the word woman means subhuman, but humans with penises get to be called HUMAN man means human!) you know what your wife probably left you because your TOUCHING KIDS YOU PEDOPHILE!!!

[defeatyourenemys]

@inechiSAN u are 1 sick minded cunt and i couldnt care less is ur fucking spasticated or not ur just lucky u dont live near me coz i would take great pleasure is setting fire to u and watching an laffing as u scream out in pain as the skin melts off ur retarded fucking face

[inechiSAN]

@defeatyourenemys well i can see why your wife took the kids away from you, you set one of your kids on fire and necrofiled them

NECROPHILE PEDOPHILE STAY AWAY FROM MY IRRESISTIBLE DEAD WHITE SKIN THAT LOOKS CORPSY AND HOT YOU PEADOPHILE!

also check out my dicknoses on youtube. they will be famous!

[inechiSAN]

@NobodyTossesADwarf91 AND WHAT DID HE DO THAT MADE HIM LOOSE HIS KIDS IN COURT??? "oh women get all the rights!" BULLSHIT DEGOZARUYO!

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@inechiSAN Not all women get rights - some crazy judges like to award visitation, to violent wifebeating rapists, who are drug abuses and alcoholics - saying it doesnt have an effect on the child.

[inechiSAN]

@Heatherhickman1986lo you replyed to THE WRONG FUCKING PERSON!

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@inechiSAN did i?

[inechiSAN]

@Heatherhickman1986lo yes becuase what you typed WAS NOT CONSISTENT!

[MrYIANNOS]

keep fighting Greece supports you

[kingbleah]

stop blubbering and fight the system!!!! i do!! and have done 13 years in and still many years to go!!

either this is going to get sorted or the country will be brought donw to its knees!.

you maker man cry BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!

vent your anger at the system this so called christain system!!!!!

[kingbleah]

stop blubbering and fight the system!!!! i do!! and have done 13 years in and still many years to go!!

[Pensavodiessersolo]

Tanta,tantissima solidarietà da un papà Italiano.

Uno dei tanti papà a cui hanno tolto i figli.

Sergio da Taranto/Italy

[separatedfather]

touching..

[zanderzoot]

I'm waiting!

[zanderzoot]

Answer the question please.

[3819oli]

Please do not treat me as a fool, i can see the trap in this question. Not being a father, I can not fully answer this. But i can understand the bound being greater then life itself, i really can. But, once again the way to show your children this is by being sencible. Not climbing buildings in costumes, banging on the door, screaming your head off ect, which i may add the group is renowned for! Do you have any idea how embarrisning this is for the children!?

[zanderzoot]

There is no trap.

I would just like to ascertain where you actually think Fathers for Justice are coming from?

I would like to keep this public and avoid the PM route as I think your ignorance requires a public stage.

Try using a spell-checker in your browser (add-on).

'embarrisning'? A father willing to risk life and limb and break the law in an attempt to fight for access to his child, nope! I would, and the vast majority of the sane population, would consider these actions wonderful.

[3819oli]

Look, we are just going round in circles here. How petty are you that you feel the need to correct my spelling. I've told you that iam dyslexic. and a spell checker? really? Look, listen to what iam saying or not, i could not honestly care, but all your going to do is drive your children away. And for gods sake, stop with the personal insults, its not needed. And you call me immature. The saying pot kettle black springs to mind.

[zanderzoot]

We're going round in circles due to the fact you refuse to address that which you have been asked.

Answer the question and we can move on.

You adore to revel in your victim status don't you?

Now you see, don't play the dyslexia card here sunshine because guess what? I have it too. Diagnosed as severe in my teens.

Again, spell-checker (browser add-on).

As for making it personal, might I draw your attention to your references to the Fathers for Justice guys in your initial posts.

Indeed pot....

[zanderzoot]

You won't make the same mistakes?

Maybe you will make different ones.

Or maybe, just maybe, your partner will fall out of love with you and could meet someone else and want to start a new life with them and her children and maybe, just maybe, you don't exactly fit into their new plan.

Maybe, just maybe, they plan to emigrate.

Some of these situations are beyond your control all by themselves.

[3819oli]

I still find it odd that your arguing with someone who has been through the system and has felt the full force of it. I've had more social workers then hot meals, my mother has been to court more times then i can count. ( feel free to stab at that one, its there just for you) F4J ask what the children want, and when one child finally speaks out, he's met with abuse and told to grow up. F4j working at its best there i see. I've told you quite a bit about myself, now its your turn. Please PM me

[3819oli]

as this character limit is getting rather irratating!

[zanderzoot]

I thought you'd gone?

Please refrain from reproducing! As it's clear you are far from capable of using a spell-checker let alone taking responsibility for the physical and emotional welfare of a child.

You are also in dire need of an education.

Come on Mr Denial, answer my previous question - what is the 'Fathers' ethos?

No bullshit, just answer the question.

[3819oli]

Yes, sorry about that, i wanted to leave, but the urge to read more of your replys is just too much! I find your stabs at my education rather strange considering you know nothing about me. So i'll fill you in. Iam in my second year of college prepearing for Uni. I Achieved straight B's at GCSE and am expected to pass sociology, english language and law. Not bad for someone who is dyslexic! Have you not noticed that U-tube does not have a spell checker? Or most forums for that matter?

[zanderzoot]

I think we both know why you're really 'done' here, don't we sweetheart?

There's none so blind.......

In a few years I suggest you read your comments again to see your child-like inability to comprehend the obvious.

I hope it never happens, but I almost hope you are denied access to your children in the future just so you will understand the complete laughability and pure ignorance of your statements. You have some growing up to do.

Bye!

[3819oli]

Oh iam sorry, but that did make me laugh. Whats with the personal comments? And dont worry, iam not planning on having kids for a long time. But, rest assured, i wont make the mistakes that you/ my father or the rest of these raving loonies. Have fun not seeing your kids. havent you got a costume to put on? Sweetheart? you must have me confused with your wife. opps, ex-wife i mean. Have a nice day!

[zanderzoot]

Do you even know what the ethos is of the Fathers for Justice cause?

Just because your father was at fault, what the hell does that have to do with their cause?

These guys are arguing for reasonable access to THEIR children when denied from doing so by unreasonable mothers.

These fathers have committed no crime.

Their relationship with the child's mother has broken down, that is it.

Learn some facts.

Stop feeling bloody sorry for yourself, you are not the only child to suffer a divorce.

[3819oli]

And yet you fail to put two and two togeather. For the record, my FATHER was a members of F4J, very good friends with its founding members. He was in on the flower bombing of the PM, and as mentioned below, mates with ron davis. Ron davis used to think nothing of it to come round and have a shouting match on my doorstep at xmas, birthdays ect. You seem determined to get your point across to me. Let me tell you something. Thats not going to happen. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

[3819oli]

I will, however, grant you that not all fathers are treated fairly. But what you fail to see is that joining a group like F4J, with there track record is not going to do you any favors. I hope that you do not drive your child away like mine did, but iam telling you now, your showing the same egotisticle nature as the rest of them. But, do what you think is best, climb a building if you feel the need. Iam done here, you can only reason with a reasonable person

[zanderzoot]

What on earth makes you think I'm a member of Fathers for Justice?

What you consider to be intelligent retort is nothing but juvenile rhetoric.

I'll explain your issues here if you like? Because they are very simple to explain.

Your parents divorced and you lived with your mother and as a result have taken exception to your father and misdirected your ignorant frustration toward the Fathers for Justice cause.

I'll refer you to my previous post and give you a little further advice - Grow up!

[3819oli]

" exception to your father and misdirected your ignorant frustration toward the Fathers for Justice cause. " This has got to be one of the best lines i've ever heard. Tell me, in a relationship, what do you class as cause for divorce? Shall i list some of my fathers antics? Emotional and physical abuse, Cheating with someone 17 years younger. Where do i stop? I chose to live with mum, i had a choice and I TOOK it. My only issues are with men like you, I do not need your advise.

[zanderzoot]

Amazing!

Three posts and you have managed to say absolutely nothing.

At eighteen I would say it was fair to assume you have no children, so if it's all the same to you sunshine I'll stand by my statement claiming you have no valid opinion in this matter.

Please do try to avoid coming across as someone who is desperate to appear cleverer than they actually are because you are semi-illiterate and it is truly embarrassing.

[3819oli]

Why thank you for the positive reply! At least you have enough brain power to write back without swearing! CLAP CLAP, you are a classic F4J example, when all else fails, resort to making it personal. As for having no valid opinion in the matter, i find that rather amusing considering that F4J is set up to promote fathers rights and what is best for the children. It is up to the children to decide if they are old enough? It seems to me that you are the one demonstraighting that they have

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

iFirstly I would like to state that only some father who are deemed "fit" by a court of law should have rights to their children. (this does not mean that they originally shouldn't have rights when a child is born, but both parents should be looked at when a split happens and parental responsibility should be awarded to the parent who has residency) There are too many dead beat dad out there that don't have anything to do with their children because they simply cant be bothered.

[P4rtis4n]

@Heatherhickman1986lo (Continuted) Just so we are clear - I am not associating you as an opportunist sociopath, but I am classifying you as a fucking tool for that comment you made. It's not Fathers4Justice's problem that there ARE deadbeat dads out there, and I'm sorry that you and your child are having to experience this. But don't slander the dads who do give a shit, and the activist support group who tries to ensure children have a good childhood and stop oppression.

[3819oli]

sunshine between their ears. Prehaps we can meet in person and i can show you the court documentation. Then we will see who's opinion is valid or not, look forward to your reply

[brendan1528]

women the law and politics and all the people in power need to understand a father is for life not just conception. its not all about paying child maintenence at all. how in gods name can you bond with your child/children and show your child/children you love them through money?? i am a father and i have a 3 and a half month old son who i am not allowed to see because his mother thinks its right to cut me out of his life now all you women out there tell me is that fair is that equal??

[cartridgecookie]

Some dads are heroes

[kingbleah]

you guys think its all over once kids grown up think again man!.

you got5 one messed up pissed off man out there who wants revenge.

and it will be against the state that supported this farce!.

eye for an eye tooth for a tooth you will pay!

[arts2wincom]

If woman and man are equal why the government dont force at the age of 18 for any parents that are seperated a gardianship of 50/50 and no money exchange even if one makes 1 million a month and the other 1000 a month.

whats wrong with the truth.

[katrinababy2005]

I now understand the reasons why, as the Family Court system, just discriminates Men just for being a Dad. I know that I may not be a perfect Man but all of my children are my lifes work, and as such I want to do everything I can for them as their Father. This has been blocked by my ex-partner with great help from the Family Courts. I will fight for my rights to parent MY children until the day I die.Too much to ask ? The Family Court seems to think so ?? Madness

[tjmac7]

There are prices to be paid for equality amongst men and women. Feminism and the break up of the family unit are just two of the costs. A fair price many say.

It is the pain of being human that we never fully see the consequences of our actions.

[woozilmusic]

i feel sorry i am reading these posts most men from F4j who are members seem to stay in the background and watch. Like i did, when you have nothing else to lose you either let it break you or make you. Now I am active have a sound business and not crazy. My daughter does not want to see me i am going to post her on you tube for people to decide. The camera never lies and i live 100 paces away from her. 3819oli sorry for your dad and you & mum you seem really hurt and angry. Take care

[3819oli]

sorry for the VERY late reply, have only just seen this comment. i can understand what fathers want, truly i can, but for gods sake, just listen to your children!!! if they say no, then no it is. if you keep on, you will drive them away just like my father did. please, listern to me and take my advise.

[zanderzoot]

Just listen to the child?

How fucking old are you?

What if your child is five and has been poisoned by the mother?

Don't talk about things you have no idea about!!!!

[3819oli]

Oh this will be fun, very fun. I always enjoy replys from F4J members. First of all, let me introduce myself. Iam Oliver, or olly as my mates call me. And in answer to your question, iam 18 years old. Now for the fun part. How dare you question me on what i do and do not know in regards to this matter. My parents went through a 12 year devorce battle over me. My mother was always there for me while my father did all he could to destroy what little stability i had. He has never paid a penny for

[3819oli]

me. You think i do not know how the system works? Oh you do make me laugh. Infact, all of you dressing up idiots make me laugh. Your pure stupidty provides laughter for me all the time. How is ron davis doing? send him my reguards. And my father malcome weston. The only time i will ever see him again is when iam at his gravestone. you think iam bitter, you think iam angry, you bet your life i am. I will quite willing take you bunch of monkeys on. Try me. F4J is a joke.

[3819oli]

And so are you if your part of them. Maybe one day i will get to meet you and the founding members of F4J in person. I've noticed they do not like arguing with someone who argues back. Please, make my day by writing some swear word filled bit of drible back to me.

[Heatherhickman1986lo]

@zanderzoot Not all mothers poison their children against their fathers - we simply tell the truth.

[defeatyourenemys]

@Heatherhickman1986lo i ask u if that is true then how come the mother of my two beautiful sons has done nothing but lie and manipulate the system. i have been arrested 30 times in 2years for various things all made up by there mother and even when she addmited they were false allogations in court i still had to take undertakings the system is bias and you women know it which is why u manipulate it u dont tell the truth at all.

[3819oli]

this is bollocks mate, my dad is one of these clowns and if you act like this then you have no right to see your children. if you want to see your children then dont follow these twats.

[dan25london]

your a fool mate. i had to get 29 contact orders over 5 years to see my child. f4j have highlighted the nonsense that goes on in the family courts and brought it to the public agenda. i don't know your situation and yes, some men don't deserve to see their children, but where there is no element of risk how can it be justified? if it wasn't for f4j i would be dead! for the record i now have my daughter 3 weekends out of 4. too much time has been missed though - time that can never be made up.

[3819oli]

i am no fool. if you knew our case, you would not be calling me a fool. our court case went on for just over 10 years, and my family had to put up with the antics of these clowns. i am 17 now and i have not seen my father in 8 years, and good job too. our court case set the president in this country, and that is no lie. My "wonderful" dad as since moved to the USA, and now claims i dont exist. I cant wait to kiss his gravestone. oh and by the way, he liked to hit my mum

[dan25london]

then i feel for you and your family. there is no doubt that some dads do not deserve to see their children but don't tar us all with the same brush. where there is no element of risk dads should not be prevented from seeing their own children. it couldn't have been fathers 4 justice harassing you and your mum because f4j was only formed in late 2002 and then spread quickly around the globe. correct me if i am wrong but you said you hadn't seen your dad it 8 years so how could it have been f4j?

[3819oli]

it might not of been the "official" fathers 4 justice, but quite a few of the members would come and make our lifes hell. Ron davies, and sevral others, including the "happy Chappys" who flower bombed the PM. you say dont tar us all with the same brush, but how can i not when you all support this awful bunch of people. if i were in that situation, i would be happy to see my child once a year. nobody listerns to the child, what they want, which is why there should be Children 4 Justice.

[dan25london]

your mind has obviously been twisted by your experiences. no father would be happy seeing his kids once a year - what a pathetic thing to say - i pity your kids if you ever have any. are you some sort of government stooge? what is your name? i will look up your case that allegedly, you say, "set a precedent in the u.s". i support this "awful bunch of people" because we seek truth, justice and equality and opening up secret courts that hand down ridiculous judgements like one day access per year

[3819oli]

oh, you sound just like my dad, " your mum has twistyed your mind, you have benn poisend. the case president was not in the USA, it was the UK. i would be happy if it ment my kids lived a normal life, not the pathetic one i lived, mum in court every other week, F4J sneeking around our home, being chased by dad and ll the other crap. you pitty my kids, i have made a promise to myself not to repeat the sins my dad. NO SIR. i pitty your kids and all the others for having worthless fathers .

[dan25london]

your going on like a deranged fool now. i did not say your mum had twisted your mind but that you had been affected by your experiences - understandable. if you look above i clearly stated that some dads dont deserve to see their kids. maybe yours was one of them. dont pity my child because she wants to see me all the time and i have a court order - the 29th i might ad - to see her 3 weekends out of 4. i am a great dad and do the best i can. you haven't got any kids so dont bring mine into it

[3819oli]

and another thing. do you pay maintence? mine naver did and as a resolt, me and mum have struggled the whole time. so yes, i am bitter towards my father. what this group fail to see, is that the moment you make love and a baby is consived, it is your right to help to feed and cloth your child. i will tell you something mate, because you have got me really bent out of shape. My mum would go hungry so i could have new cloths or eat myself. you live of baked beans for a week and see how you like it

[dan25london]

and yes, for the record i do pay maintenance regularly into my childs bank account. i believe a father should provide both EMOTIONAL and FINANCIAL support. i was brought up by a single parent 7 floors up in a council flat and my mum had 3 cleaning jobs so that i didn't have to go without. so, yes i do know what it is like. that's why i pay for my child

[3819oli]

oh, and while me and mum struggle, my dad is living a very well paid job in the USA. ME twisted? yeh you might say that. YOU on the other hand, deluded to the real truth your children might not want to see you every weekend. I have nothing more to say to you, and i only hope you wake up and smell the coffee, this group is a waste of space. my court case would leave you in shock, but no i am not going to tell you my name. just ask ron davies, fat lump of shit.

[dan25london]

and finally, as stated above my childs wants to see me all the time and i have her 3 weekends out of 4. i accept she should spend at least 1 weekend with her mum. my court case would also shock u - that's why i joined f4j. i've heard the name ron davies but no nothing of him. f4j has evolved to tackle serious issues faced by uk society today, like knife crime. its no coincidence they all come from fatherless families. i've tried to engage you in intelligent debate but you are clearly not capable

[3819oli]

you are right i dont have kids, but you brought it up first. maybe some fathers are treated wrongly, but as you said my expirences have taught me that most of F4J are raving loonies. if you are the exception, then i say it rests on your sholders to change this groups image. there recent stunt oh harriet harmans roof, well you know what i think. you seem to be different from the others, if only my dad could of helped like you help your kids. i am not deranged, just speak my mind.

[dan25london]

like i said to you previously i am sympathetic to what you have been through. but i whole heartedly disagree with your f4j are loonies comment - the guys on harriet harmans roof - all their cases are closed, just like mine, but they do it to raise awareness to the injustices that occur daily in the family courts. read family court hell - his kids ran away to live with him. surely that tells you something? harman is a radical feminist. f4j are the last defence of fatherhood. i support them 110%

[visitordad]

Standing up against injustice is not clownish. It is couragouse and admirable. I suppose you think Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks were acting foolishly too??

[3819oli]

oh for the love of god, no martin luther king was not foolish. but the way you do it, dressed up as batman, spiderman, thats stupid. martin luther died for what he belived in, any of you guys willing to go that far?

[tjmac7]

I dont think MLK chose to be shot dead.

The super hero costumes draw media attention to the positive roles of men in childrens lives. Children afterall are the reason for Fathers for justice, not black civil rights.

[cartridgecookie]

What use are we to kids if we are dead. They need fathers

[3819oli]

I 100% agree with you that children need fathers, but not the type who climb on roofs and dont pay mainternce. (my father) even if you dont see your kids, you must still provide for them. my father has not paid mainternence is 12 years, and as a result, me and my mother have only just lived above the poverty line. a child is for life, not just for xmas.

[cartridgecookie]

Be a father is about spending quality time with children. Helping with their homework. Taking an interest in everything they do. Playing with them in the park. Not just giving money. My wife has treated my 3 yr old appallingly. Thats why I dont want to be with her and thats why we fell out. I have done absolutely nothing wrong. I have cared for and protected my daughter to an exceptional level. But when it comes to it, I lose the right to custody as mum always get it.

[omegaman2370]

Well lets all face the truth here, men all over the world are treated like second class citizens in regard to their RIGHT to see their kids, its a fact, and unrtil it happens to you you cant comment or have any idea what it feels like videos like this shows you the raw pain and emotion that can occur but just look how many views it gets,, some stupid prick farting in someones face whilst he sleeps gets more...one day we will wake up and it will have all turned to shit.. whats that smell????????

[sjreumbies]

340 views 3 comments??? Thats not the way to achieve something....

[sjreumbies]

I am from the netherlands.same problems here.

I agread we must do more lets unit and take some ACTION....

[mycools]

Excellent video - but nothing is going to change until more fathers get off their arses and get onto the streets!

[FathersICampaign]

Fathers need to do more comments.

Campaign!

Now & Forever.

GoTo FathersICampaign, too.

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[DigitalEurope]

Cant we all. :S

[Billzy]

amazing video.

I can totally relate to what was said at the start.