Since we only have knowledge of #666, seeing as you haven't given us any more information (and I'm sure I'm the millionth person to do so), I will say the percentage is 100 that you pull out #666 because it is the only number in the bag.
Not a theist, but it was hard for me not to answer this.
That´s easy. If your bag of deities is a fair bag, it should include an infinite number of gods, because we can postulate an infinite number of gods that could have brought the Universe into being. So the chances are 1/infinity, wich is zero (or curves to zero). Problem solved. Being myself an atheist, I can´t reclaim your soul, so, convert yourself to anything godless. Veganism, perhaps. Cheers.
@lfzadra You make the assumption that there is an infinite amount of possibilities, but there may only be one. You have no way of knowing the actual probability, because you do not have enough info about how many tiles are in the bag or how likely #'s may be. Fine tuning as well. We can't say what the probability is, that the constants of nature would have certain values, because we don't know IF they could be different, or how likely certain values may be. We only have 1 example in hand.
You would need an equal number of tiles that read #666 as tiles that have any other number if you were to have it be a 50/50 split. This 'game' is to illustrate that we do not know the exact number of tiles and so we cannot give an exact percentage.
if i did a hell of a lot of math (complex physics stuff that i'd need a supercomputer for) i (really an actual mathematician, which i am not) could give you a range of probabilities based on known or ascertainable factors (those given here, laws of physics, most possible tiles a human could shake in a bag, ...) but thats as close as I could get without actually knowing what's in the bag. Although I'm an atheist so I'd be wasting my time.
You don't give enough information but I can still provide solutions. If all of the tiles contain the same #, then the probability of choosing a tile with that number is 1. However,if each tile contains a different #, then the probability of choosing a tile with a different # from the one that you stated is x-1/x (where x is the total # of tiles). Welcome to the faith brother. G-d bless you.
One more possibility, if all tiles contain the same #, then choosing one that has a # other than that # is 0. Also, your original premise is wrong. Ex. If I roll a fair die and get a 1, the probability of me rolling a 1 is not 1 because of that outcome. The probability is still 1/6.
LOL....yeah, ok. I said I was looking for the exact probability, not an equation with variables. You were correct when you said that I did not give you enough information. This is the point of the video. You cannot know what the propability of the next draw is because you cannot know how many tiles are in the bag, or even how many of them might contain the same number. This is also true with the Fine-tuning argument.
You cannot know what the propability is of the universe having the values it does, for the constants in question, when all you have is the one example that is known to us. There very well MIGHT be an unbelievable amount of variables that those constants COULD be, but there is no way of knowing that. There is simply not enough information to say what the propabilities are, which is what the Fine-tuning argument hinges on. If someone says that the values of the constants we have are unlikely...
...they are making an assumption or guess at what those values COULD be. Also, even IF we could prove that they COULD be different, there may be only a certain range that is possible, AND the values in the possible range wouldn't even be neccessarily equally probable. There may be one, or some, that may be alot more probable than the others that are possible. Thanks for playing though. I don't see Theism in my immediate future. LOL
Probability is a human invention used to create predictions with known variables. You appear to believe that it's an actual something. The fact is, there is an exact probability we can calculate for the next being anything but 666 because we know that there are two tiles, and that 1 tile is 666. It's not a strong assertion, but it's still 50%. I am not a theist.
Correction: we are assuming that there are at least two tiles. There can be an infinite amount and 50% will still hold because this is probability. If you were to ask what the exact distribution of 666 in the bag, the question is entirely different, and you wouldn't know.
So your point is that we have no idea how many tiles there are in the bag in the first place? It could be only 1 with number 666 on it, it could be 10 with different numbers, it could be millions with different numbers, or it could be millions which all have 666 on them?
Since we only have knowledge of #666, seeing as you haven't given us any more information (and I'm sure I'm the millionth person to do so), I will say the percentage is 100 that you pull out #666 because it is the only number in the bag.
Not a theist, but it was hard for me not to answer this.
HimesInu 7 months ago
That´s easy. If your bag of deities is a fair bag, it should include an infinite number of gods, because we can postulate an infinite number of gods that could have brought the Universe into being. So the chances are 1/infinity, wich is zero (or curves to zero). Problem solved. Being myself an atheist, I can´t reclaim your soul, so, convert yourself to anything godless. Veganism, perhaps. Cheers.
lfzadra 1 year ago
@lfzadra You make the assumption that there is an infinite amount of possibilities, but there may only be one. You have no way of knowing the actual probability, because you do not have enough info about how many tiles are in the bag or how likely #'s may be. Fine tuning as well. We can't say what the probability is, that the constants of nature would have certain values, because we don't know IF they could be different, or how likely certain values may be. We only have 1 example in hand.
Antichryst666 1 year ago
50/50. It's either 666 or something else
;)
magx01 2 years ago
@magx01
You would need an equal number of tiles that read #666 as tiles that have any other number if you were to have it be a 50/50 split. This 'game' is to illustrate that we do not know the exact number of tiles and so we cannot give an exact percentage.
randomizationclassic 1 year ago
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magx01 1 year ago
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magx01 1 year ago
@magx01
Ah, alright. Sorry for taking you so seriously, then.
randomizationclassic 1 year ago
@randomizationclassic
No problem. My comment could easily have been misconstrued. And you were right.
magx01 1 year ago
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@randomizationclassic
Oh, I'm aware. I was being facetious, hence the ;)
;)
I know this demonstrates that there are insufficent conditions upon which to make such a prediction :)
magx01 1 year ago
read the first line of your post.
I didn't think this a particularly good video, but unlike you, I did NOT miss the point.
Kbiomech 2 years ago
If you believe in the multiverse then every number in the bag is drawn in each universe, i suppose it depends on which universe is relative to you :)
11floatylight 2 years ago
if i did a hell of a lot of math (complex physics stuff that i'd need a supercomputer for) i (really an actual mathematician, which i am not) could give you a range of probabilities based on known or ascertainable factors (those given here, laws of physics, most possible tiles a human could shake in a bag, ...) but thats as close as I could get without actually knowing what's in the bag. Although I'm an atheist so I'd be wasting my time.
rjswolfman 2 years ago
my god i must have this music
DyfnalltDH 2 years ago
err that is of a course a figure of speech
DyfnalltDH 2 years ago 4
You don't give enough information but I can still provide solutions. If all of the tiles contain the same #, then the probability of choosing a tile with that number is 1. However,if each tile contains a different #, then the probability of choosing a tile with a different # from the one that you stated is x-1/x (where x is the total # of tiles). Welcome to the faith brother. G-d bless you.
SonistheFatherofMan 2 years ago
One more possibility, if all tiles contain the same #, then choosing one that has a # other than that # is 0. Also, your original premise is wrong. Ex. If I roll a fair die and get a 1, the probability of me rolling a 1 is not 1 because of that outcome. The probability is still 1/6.
SonistheFatherofMan 2 years ago
LOL....yeah, ok. I said I was looking for the exact probability, not an equation with variables. You were correct when you said that I did not give you enough information. This is the point of the video. You cannot know what the propability of the next draw is because you cannot know how many tiles are in the bag, or even how many of them might contain the same number. This is also true with the Fine-tuning argument.
Antichryst666 2 years ago
You cannot know what the propability is of the universe having the values it does, for the constants in question, when all you have is the one example that is known to us. There very well MIGHT be an unbelievable amount of variables that those constants COULD be, but there is no way of knowing that. There is simply not enough information to say what the propabilities are, which is what the Fine-tuning argument hinges on. If someone says that the values of the constants we have are unlikely...
Antichryst666 2 years ago
...they are making an assumption or guess at what those values COULD be. Also, even IF we could prove that they COULD be different, there may be only a certain range that is possible, AND the values in the possible range wouldn't even be neccessarily equally probable. There may be one, or some, that may be alot more probable than the others that are possible. Thanks for playing though. I don't see Theism in my immediate future. LOL
Antichryst666 2 years ago
@Antichryst666
Probability is a human invention used to create predictions with known variables. You appear to believe that it's an actual something. The fact is, there is an exact probability we can calculate for the next being anything but 666 because we know that there are two tiles, and that 1 tile is 666. It's not a strong assertion, but it's still 50%. I am not a theist.
jaykgrey 4 months ago
Correction: we are assuming that there are at least two tiles. There can be an infinite amount and 50% will still hold because this is probability. If you were to ask what the exact distribution of 666 in the bag, the question is entirely different, and you wouldn't know.
jaykgrey 4 months ago
Let me guess... the probability that it is something other than #666 is 0% because all the tiles contain #666 :P
NarcolepticSun 2 years ago
The universe isn't fine tuned for life,
life is fine tuned to the universe.
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago 6
So your point is that we have no idea how many tiles there are in the bag in the first place? It could be only 1 with number 666 on it, it could be 10 with different numbers, it could be millions with different numbers, or it could be millions which all have 666 on them?
very good point indeed
Knowntje 2 years ago
I like when reasoning is used through mathematics...I foresee a lot of subscribers in your near future. =)
QuestioProVerum 2 years ago
They ALL have 666, don't they? I'm going with 0 probability of anything other than 666.
TETSUno1 2 years ago
lol
Antichryst666 2 years ago
Very good example.
SoCalAtheistFights 2 years ago
thanx.
Antichryst666 2 years ago