Everything Jimi, Zeppelin or any ledgend ever played were based ont he blues scales. They may not have kept exactly within the scales range, but they were still playign it.
Anything that sounds good, stays within the laws.
@philkapune actually as a berklee student here that is a good approch to music when you first start out. i get what your saying about feeling what your playing and not exactly knowing how you got it to sound that way but when you know the way things fit together is when you can make things your own by breaking those rules. im not argueing with you im more refining this part of your thoughts.
@derekharris77d I'm not saying you shouldn't be aware or understand what you are playing, rather this understanding should be intuitive rather than intellectual. So instead of thinking "Okay its a 1 chord so I'm playing major scale off the 1" you should be FEELING the specific feeling a 4 chord gives you and then FEELING the notes of a major scale. verbal thought is not neccesary for creating musical thoughts is what I mean. Its largely intuitive.
@Hamsammich111 For what Hendrix did with music, he knew theory. Plus you don't work with all those keyboard players and not pick up on some theory, trust me, those guys know their shit ;)
@akolyte123 youre a fucking dolt. if it's not the same scale, how does it have the same notes? it is, technically speaking, the same scale. the SAME scale with 7 DIFFERENT diatonic modal names. same scale. seven names. everyone on every single god damn backing track video has the same retarded argument about modes and waht scale one should play....
Is this available for download at all. I like it and want to add some guitar tracks too it :) I do this this with other songs and back tracks like so many musicians.
Click my name to see some of what I do if you think its okay can I grab this off you ?
Is this available for download at all. I like it and want to add some guitar tracks too it :) I do this this with other songs and back tracks like so many musicians.
Click my name to see some of what I do if you think its okay can I grab this off you ?
TECHNICALLY This is in the key of e flat because there are accompanying instruments you call it eflat. But if it where just the guitar tuned down a half step you could call it E.
1. habitual skepticism: a strong tendency to be pessimistic, to assess situations in the worst light, or to be unreasonably skeptical about generally accepted beliefs
cmon people, why fight? jimi plays music to make people (including him) happy. why do u guys fight when this shows up? why? doesn't jimi want world peace? doesnt he want to make the world a better place with his inspiring music? almost all of you are getting the wrong idea. music is a way to express yourself to others, that is what jimi does. i don't think that hendrix plays so that people fight about whether it is an E minor or not. he plays for peace love and harmony to the world.
People need to stop arguing over the theory, G is the relative major to E minor therefore it is the same scale, the only difference being where the root is set, in this case you could play a 'G Major' over this but resolve on E and its the same as playing E minor, its quite simple. Also someone saying about harmonic minor, the harmonic minor is the natural minor but with a sharp 7th...
The difference is if you were playing C lydian you would be using C as your center point. So when you solo are you resolving on the C? If you are that's a kind of lydian sound, if you're resolving on the E or the B or the G you can call it what you want but you're playing E minor.
decko87 is correct, the rest of u stop being idiot and read the AB guide to music theory 1 & 2 also Paul Hidemith's elementary training for musicians! ... :)
Beyond that, all the modes and keys and chord changes and pentatonic scales in the world won't help you if you're playing with cloth ears.
Counting the bars, scale and changes as you play, if you're doing it consciously, is good if you're a computer-generated soloist, I guess. But if I obsessed over what scales to solo over what bars, I'd sound robotic and distracted.
Imagine if Jimi had stuck to the rules of soloing. Think about that for a minute.
I haven't found a better one yet but there should be one out there. The intro is supposed to after the first drum riff... If you notice the song is exactly as long as Hendrix version. I agree with you though its way to fast
its actually in alot of keys. theres bits of E dorian, E natural minor, E frigian, and also G lydian, G major, and G mix olidian. (i basaclly said the same thing twice).
there really arent that many modes in here as far as lead goes he plays eminor blues scale and full scale and then he plays a normal blues scale for all the other major chords
Right, i'll set this straight. The song Little Wing by Jimmy Hendrix is in the key of E MINOR. Therefore you can jam to it in either the key of E MINOR or the key of G MAJOR.
This is becaude G is the relative major key to E Minor.
Therefore you can jam to it in either key. E Minor or G Major. Infact, it's nice to drift in and out of each one to give a little extra interest.
I have always played it in the key of F#minor, So A is the relative major..we have a rich field of minor and major modulations here-forget the scales ..close your eyes and feel you way through, melodic invention as opposed to sticking to scalar pedantry...
nope. "drifting" from e minor to g major while playing lead guitar doesn't add interest because they are the same notes, nor is it possible to achieve without the harmony backing you up
nope! wrong! how can you add interest by playing GABCDEF# instead of EF#GABCD? Same notes mate!! It's in E minor. You can jam to it in E minor. Fuck it, you can jam in E major if you like, but you can't play in G.
It's more E aeolian, E minor would have a raised seventh (E F# G A B C D#) and playing in G major would still sound awesome because you'd be playing off of the third. It wouldn't sound major because the backing chords are minor.
E aeolian would be correct if this was modal. It's not. Please research modal music before trying to disprove me.
The raised 6th and 7th are optional in E minor.
playing in g major is impossible because the track isn't in G, it's in E. It makes no sense to say you're playing in G major when you're actually playing in E minor. the phrase "playing off the third" makes no sense.
Please research relative keys before trying to disprove me.
Are you fucking stupid? Obviously you're a musical idiot, because modal music is music that generaly centers around one chord. If I play D major and C major as a chord progression that is a mixolydian chord progression, and if I play E minor D major that is an E aeolian chord progression. Futhermore you can substitute scales over a given chord progression. Say you're in E minor, well you can play E aeolian, harmonic minor, melodic minor, phrygian, minor pentatonic, dorian, blues, G major ect...
this is all correct apart from your first and very last statements.
You can play E minor(lets call it aeolian even though its not, i might get back to that later), harmonic minor, melodic minor, phrygian, minor pentatonic, dorian, blues, etc, but NOT G major. do you not see that thats the only scale you've listed that doesnt have a tonic centre of E? You can't just play some other scale over an E backing, thats not the way music works. the notes you play always have some relation to the tonic
First off it is Aeolian because it has a B minor chord in the song. E minor would have a major five chord. Secondly maybe you can't play G major, but I sure as hell can, fuck I can play D major over this as well and it sounds bitchen, and I even play C major over the turnaroun (because it shifts to the key of C major) so if you can't play those keys I'd think long and hard about what you can play, because the rest of us can make G major work so you should probably go practice.
Whats with you guys and your reliance to the scales, the best players just play the notes that sound best. I could never imagine Jimi arguing with someone like this about what scale to use with this song. He'd probably just say something like play whatever sounds nice.
E aeolian is A minor firt off, 2nd the raised 7th would be harmonic minor if im not mistaken. Everything is modal. Satriani uses a form of theory called pitch axis with uses the Root as a fulcrum if you would to move around sonically within the correct key.
its not modal at all! since when did Bbm or F major fit into E Aeolian? Raising the 7th note in a minor key is optional but you CAN'T use outside notes when playing modally. Thats what defines the modal musical system, which i admit is quite complicated. But thats no excuse to make incorrect statements. Pitch Axis is irrelevant. Sunderlanding is an idiot, and doesn't realise that he's not actually playing the scales he thinks he is. Scales are collections of notes not box patterns on the guitar.
Actually modal means one chord. Then you can play with the modes over top. That's what it meant when Coltrane was doing it in the sixties. Maybe you should learn something about theory idiot.
Thats not true. I understand how you came to that conclusion, but it's inaccurate. Either way, this clearly isn't modal. It's in E minor.
Now that I think about it, its kinda funny how you said "Actually modal means one chord" =D Totally wrong like. Try studying some gregorian music - that was modal and most certainly didn't just use one chord. Nor is "Paperback Writer" by the Beatles modal even though it just uses mostly one chord. Whoever told you that got you good.
First off this is G Major (or E Aeolian) with shift to C Major. E Minor implies a major five chord which would be Harmonic or Melodic to include the D#. Now modal is a term that implies one chord or a harmonic center in which the improviser uses a series of modes related to that chord to play over. Ex. Emin you could play (E Aeolin, E Dorian, E Phrygian, or any number of scales that involve an E Minor chord) A good example of modal music is Coltranes "A Love Supreme".
theyre totally different mate. Theyre made out of different musical systems. Its like saying that a basketball and a pumpkin are basically the same cause theyre both round and orange. G major is tonal and E Aeolian is modal. Theres no similarity apart from that they contain the same notes. You and I probably have the same components, eyes, nose, ears, but I'm obviously much smarter and better than you so we're not the same.
Are you a fucking idiot? I never said they sounded the same I said they are bascially the same scale. BASICALLY THE SAME. By having the same notes, they are basically the same thing. Or didn't you get that far in school? Of course they sound different otherwise what would be the point of the modes? Why don't you read all the posts so you know what we were talking about. Then you won't sound like a total douche when you post.
naw mate theyre not the same, not basically or at all. Aeolean is 1 2 b3 4 5 b6b7, major is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. totally different and no similarities except for the superficial.
The point is, you can't solo over this song in G major cause you'd actually be using the E minor intervals, and you can't solo in E Aeolean cause its not modal.
Simple. Put your hands in G major position. Press play on the jam track. Play the scale along with the song. Follow these simple steps and maybe one day you'll be able to play.
a scale isn't a position on a guitar. A scale is a collection of notes that can be played on any instrument in any octave. Now I realise where you've been going wrong, and this is also the exact moment when I have won.
According to your logic. G Major is quite different from E minor. So If I play in that position I'm playing G major. I'm just using your own logic back on you, but I guess your too stupid to realize that.
According to all known music theory, E minor is the parallell key of G-major and contains exactly the same notes which gives that You can play a E-minor scale over a G-major chord and vice-versa. Btw. is modal improvisation something completely different, but even if You have a modal chord progression around A-minor for instance - it's perfectly OK to play both E-minor, G-major, A-dorian and even C-lydian scales since they contains the same notes... Got it brothers ?
So you said that G major wasn't the same as E minor, and now you're saying they are the same? You should really pick a side and stick with it. All these contradictions just make you look stupid, but I guess you're probably used to that.
i dunno why i'm wasting my time educating you, you're totally unteachable. E minor and G major have the same notes but they're completely different. I never said otherwise. Ya twat.
Actually you did say different, but you've contradicted yourself so many times at this point it's laughable. Look obviously you don't know much about scales, there are lots of sites on the internet that'll help you learn. Come back in a couple of years when you know something.
you guys seem to be getting mixed up between musical note bullshit ... yes they may have the same notes but its all about how you play them than gives it the major/modal feel what you start and end your phrases on ect
lol sorry man i know youre trying to help but that's not true. Phrasing has absolutely nothing to do with modes. The backing chords has more to do with it. You can't play C lydian over an E minor progression no matter how hard you try.
no you can't. If you play those notes over this song youre playing E minor. That's it. You can't play in C lydian cause you'd actually be playing in E minor. Can't play in G major cause its actually E minor. Can't play in E phrygian cause it's actually E minor.
if you play the notes of E phrygian, ie. "E F G A B C D" over this song, you're playing E MINOR with an accidental, F instead of F#. Not E phrygian or anything else.
actually your an idiot because that scale you listed is E harmonic minor commonly used in baroque music and metal, blues sticks with Blues pentatonic major and minor scales. E F# G A B C D would be e minor way to shit on a guy who probably meant what most of you said except for this guy of course
Actually when you say minor it implies harmonic and melodic. If you play in a minor key you're supposed to play a major five chord, which would give you a D sharp in the key of E minor, the scale you're talking about would be refered to as Aeolian. Granted nowadays most people don't know basic theory so minor could mean Dorian, Harmonic, Aeolian or even Phrygian. Reagardless the point is you can use Harmonic in a blues setting if you want, there is no this is how you have to play.
your still playing in the 6th mode of G major as long as the emphasis and root are used properly its fine its a matter of opinion man, its like saying E#m or Fm
when its not in context its not as strict as you make it out, theory is a guideline no more.
Umm no it's not nub, it's in E rofl and if you can play over it in G then your guitar is seriously untuned maybe invest in a tuner? Or some guitar lessons?
no the root is actually a g major but the solo is played mostly using an e minor penatonic scale ...maybe invest in some ear training lessons of your own
very useful, thanks!:D
PARAekbolMORE 5 days ago
is it just me ....or is there plenty of bad audio in this otherwise awesome track ?
TheMichaelseymour 3 months ago
@PhilipPoland1987 G major is E minor lmao and its supposed to be in Eb minor/Gbmajor anyway.
SuperFastsloth 3 months ago
@SuperFastsloth No it's not. You're right on the second one, though.
YouNeedMani 2 months ago
AWSOME
bajtekt 4 months ago
the funeral version
lyntonio 4 months ago
Derek and the dominos version? anyone??
jumpmanJB23 4 months ago
0.15 ??
Metalclub1 6 months ago
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Jotabono92 7 months ago
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Jotabono92 7 months ago
who cares about it being a semitone to high and a bit too fast.
Nice track, thanks.
ddaazz85 8 months ago
Was it Noel or Mitch that played the keyboard? I keep forgetting. Just kidding....
rawzone1 10 months ago
Come on, it should end on E minor not Gmajor ;)
Great upload though
PhilipPoland1987 11 months ago 11
.... instead of Eb try E. Pretty sure its just a semitone up from original
StevefromZimbabwe 11 months ago
its a semitone to high......
GrungeHippie95 11 months ago
@GrungeHippie95 Ur a semitone too high.... Just playin man.. I hear it too tho
MEX0688 11 months ago
Jimi didnt worry about scales, He just fucking felt it!
Try feel music rather than obeying laws
MenaPaws21 11 months ago
@MenaPaws21
Everything Jimi, Zeppelin or any ledgend ever played were based ont he blues scales. They may not have kept exactly within the scales range, but they were still playign it.
Anything that sounds good, stays within the laws.
lukereaume 11 months ago 3
@lukereaume exactly.
green66vw 8 months ago
@MenaPaws21 umm actually Jimi knew music theory
iwantastrat 11 months ago
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gibbie31 1 year ago
Uhm... F#m scale? all the way?
MrPulpar 1 year ago
@MrPulpar no
slashy04 11 months ago
who needs scales lol
fender19281 1 year ago
Scale discussion:
G major (E minor) - 0:26 G mixolydian (E phrygian) - 0:33 G major (E minor)
Only one note difference (from f# to f) and it is passable not to use it, but try it . It just sound right. (And is)
paldenno1 1 year ago 3
E MINOR SO PLS STOP ARGUING ABT THE GOD DAMN SCALE!!:D
dlkrdlkr 1 year ago
2 minutes?!?!? shame on you uploader. what a tease i was just getting into it
calochamp 1 year ago
Jimi, I love you.
tehnoobworks 1 year ago
this is wrong, the drums don't kick in straight away, they come in after the intro. This is about 30 seconds to early
jimihendrix1998 1 year ago
Thanks for making this track. Sounds awesome... and it's not in Eb! Woot!
talenwaver 1 year ago
That's handy. I don't need to tune my guitatr down. to Eb.
christopauls 1 year ago 3
@philkapune actually as a berklee student here that is a good approch to music when you first start out. i get what your saying about feeling what your playing and not exactly knowing how you got it to sound that way but when you know the way things fit together is when you can make things your own by breaking those rules. im not argueing with you im more refining this part of your thoughts.
derekharris77d 1 year ago
@derekharris77d I'm not saying you shouldn't be aware or understand what you are playing, rather this understanding should be intuitive rather than intellectual. So instead of thinking "Okay its a 1 chord so I'm playing major scale off the 1" you should be FEELING the specific feeling a 4 chord gives you and then FEELING the notes of a major scale. verbal thought is not neccesary for creating musical thoughts is what I mean. Its largely intuitive.
TheMrAlwaysRight 1 year ago
@TheMrAlwaysRight I COMPLETELY agree
Muzikman127 1 year ago
wow arguing over scales which is why I don't study music theory and neither did Jimi.
SaypheZonE 1 year ago
@SaypheZonE Hendrix never knew theory and Hendrix died. Learn your theory kids.
Hamsammich111 1 year ago
@Hamsammich111 For what Hendrix did with music, he knew theory. Plus you don't work with all those keyboard players and not pick up on some theory, trust me, those guys know their shit ;)
psychoactivepaper 1 year ago
@psychoactivepaper It was sort of a joke :P, I know Hendrix knew theory even if not in the classical sense.
Hamsammich111 1 year ago
wish this was down half step :(
pedheadz 1 year ago
@pedheadz fuckin a, i don't feel like tuning back to standard i'm too high for that shit
MistaMahoney 1 year ago 2
great backing but any chance of a slower version, like the original?? way too fast :)
martinleejones 1 year ago
for anyone who dosent listen this IS in e min and
NO its not the same scale as G major, F# locrian, A dorian etc etc it may have the same notes its not the same scale.
akolyte123 1 year ago
@akolyte123 u play little wing with Eb (flat) do that and u'll can really sound like jimi well not perfect lol
killakid443 1 year ago
@akolyte123 youre a fucking dolt. if it's not the same scale, how does it have the same notes? it is, technically speaking, the same scale. the SAME scale with 7 DIFFERENT diatonic modal names. same scale. seven names. everyone on every single god damn backing track video has the same retarded argument about modes and waht scale one should play....
MrMeist 1 year ago
@MrMeist and ur a fucking nerd for arguing about it over youtube
raptoresque 1 year ago
Is this available for download at all. I like it and want to add some guitar tracks too it :) I do this this with other songs and back tracks like so many musicians.
Click my name to see some of what I do if you think its okay can I grab this off you ?
ForeverMegadeth 1 year ago
Is this available for download at all. I like it and want to add some guitar tracks too it :) I do this this with other songs and back tracks like so many musicians.
Click my name to see some of what I do if you think its okay can I grab this off you ?
ForeverMegadeth 1 year ago
Is this available for download at all. I like it and want to add some guitar tracks too it :)
ForeverMegadeth 1 year ago
Wish I could work my drum machine that good!
rawzone1 2 years ago
@rawzone1 use guitar pro to write the track then convert to mp3 and play. i suck with drum machines too
derekharris77d 1 year ago
TECHNICALLY This is in the key of e flat because there are accompanying instruments you call it eflat. But if it where just the guitar tuned down a half step you could call it E.
WhackaJacka 2 years ago
Please check out my video of Little Wing A Tribute to Jimi and Stevie. Simply Search my name:
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Thank you so much to Mr. James Tomascovics who made the beautiful backing track.
franchescoangelo 2 years ago
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rawzone1 2 years ago
He is the master,now bow.............
billcartermusic 2 years ago
so much hate in here,
very pleasant backing track
PiratePotatoe 2 years ago
cmon people, why fight? jimi plays music to make people (including him) happy. why do u guys fight when this shows up? why? doesn't jimi want world peace? doesnt he want to make the world a better place with his inspiring music? almost all of you are getting the wrong idea. music is a way to express yourself to others, that is what jimi does. i don't think that hendrix plays so that people fight about whether it is an E minor or not. he plays for peace love and harmony to the world.
OsHead94 2 years ago 2
Fake.
colourfulwithaU 2 years ago 3
People need to stop arguing over the theory, G is the relative major to E minor therefore it is the same scale, the only difference being where the root is set, in this case you could play a 'G Major' over this but resolve on E and its the same as playing E minor, its quite simple. Also someone saying about harmonic minor, the harmonic minor is the natural minor but with a sharp 7th...
amnesia271 2 years ago 4
i only just figured that out by playing along to backing tracks in minor... lol
sourcehacker 2 years ago
perfect! thanks for the upload!
TheBurgerShack 2 years ago
super fast
Sabotage18 2 years ago 30
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how the hell you delete the intro fuck you!
MchDrummer1 2 years ago
theres nothin to the intro u fuck.... apart from a bell
The7Shr00ms 2 years ago
yes i agree why is everyone hatin!??? they most not play guitar
killakid443 2 years ago 2
Actually minor and harmonic minor are two differant things, studied music for 16 years and I have a friend at Berckley in Boston mam
SAIBOT64 2 years ago
what's the key of the song?
MrRomer0 2 years ago
It's a little too fast for me (the tempo).
covflo 2 years ago
there is no difference between C lydian and E aeolean.
the difference is how the player plays it
MrMeist 2 years ago
i thought hendrix played it in D# minor. sounds like E minor to me.
NaSStyLs1 2 years ago
This IS in E Minor, but it's not the same backing music that Hendrix played over.
IbanezRG7321 2 years ago
He often played in a flattened tuning, so your D# is actually an E flat. but your right, this is in E
orpalldog 2 years ago 4
no intro?
kosta224 2 years ago
I could be wrong, but C Lydian has the exact same ntoes as E Aeolian... ?? I mean, they're both modes relative to G Major..
E F# G A B C D E
or
C D E F# G A B C
Who gives a fuck..
So if I wanna play C lydian over this backing track, I'm gonna play C lydian, try 'n stop me.
wannabefun 2 years ago
The difference is if you were playing C lydian you would be using C as your center point. So when you solo are you resolving on the C? If you are that's a kind of lydian sound, if you're resolving on the E or the B or the G you can call it what you want but you're playing E minor.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
this shit is way to fast
fliptopman 2 years ago
wow an argument over scales finally. usually its just an argument about who knows jimis biography the best.
mattandkenny 2 years ago 21
true
saron380 2 years ago
decko87 is correct, the rest of u stop being idiot and read the AB guide to music theory 1 & 2 also Paul Hidemith's elementary training for musicians! ... :)
parnie101 2 years ago
awesome dude :)
3Dtwin1 2 years ago
The song is in G major.
Beyond that, all the modes and keys and chord changes and pentatonic scales in the world won't help you if you're playing with cloth ears.
Counting the bars, scale and changes as you play, if you're doing it consciously, is good if you're a computer-generated soloist, I guess. But if I obsessed over what scales to solo over what bars, I'd sound robotic and distracted.
Imagine if Jimi had stuck to the rules of soloing. Think about that for a minute.
Kozakaiya 2 years ago
Hmmm... sounds like Lick Library's to mee....
Tomurow 2 years ago
It'd E Minor. Solo's sound good in E Pentatonic Minor, with a shift to the Bb position when the backing chords go from Bm to Bb.
negitivezero7 2 years ago
way too fast man!! doesnt give enough time for feeling ya end up rushing it...not what hendrix wanted at all me thinks!! and what about the intro??
anyone got a better one than this??
fionnessy 3 years ago
I haven't found a better one yet but there should be one out there. The intro is supposed to after the first drum riff... If you notice the song is exactly as long as Hendrix version. I agree with you though its way to fast
TheWalrus1207 3 years ago
THANK YOU! <3, this should bring me hours of fun
albatross111 3 years ago
thanks man!! this is a great backing track!!
TheManWhoPlaysGuitar 3 years ago
take any thing you want from ----- well shes walkin through the clouds-- butterflies and zebra's and fairy tails-----damn know one writes like this
shinny blue metalic purple armor.
Barefootterry 3 years ago
its actually in alot of keys. theres bits of E dorian, E natural minor, E frigian, and also G lydian, G major, and G mix olidian. (i basaclly said the same thing twice).
pyromaniac789789 3 years ago
there really arent that many modes in here as far as lead goes he plays eminor blues scale and full scale and then he plays a normal blues scale for all the other major chords
dresch50 3 years ago
Right, i'll set this straight. The song Little Wing by Jimmy Hendrix is in the key of E MINOR. Therefore you can jam to it in either the key of E MINOR or the key of G MAJOR.
This is becaude G is the relative major key to E Minor.
Therefore you can jam to it in either key. E Minor or G Major. Infact, it's nice to drift in and out of each one to give a little extra interest.
My work here is done.
Nice backing track by the way! :)
ledzeppelin992 3 years ago
that dude just schooled you all
themi90 3 years ago
And where the hell is the intro?
zatrus 3 years ago
Jimi.
yoyoyo17941113 3 years ago 2
I have always played it in the key of F#minor, So A is the relative major..we have a rich field of minor and major modulations here-forget the scales ..close your eyes and feel you way through, melodic invention as opposed to sticking to scalar pedantry...
GalaxyHorse 3 years ago 3
Fair point
ledzeppelin992 3 years ago
nope. "drifting" from e minor to g major while playing lead guitar doesn't add interest because they are the same notes, nor is it possible to achieve without the harmony backing you up
LetsParty321 3 years ago
nope! wrong! how can you add interest by playing GABCDEF# instead of EF#GABCD? Same notes mate!! It's in E minor. You can jam to it in E minor. Fuck it, you can jam in E major if you like, but you can't play in G.
Sorry if I owned you too hard
decko87 3 years ago
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SPHChow 2 years ago
wrong again!
E minor isn't G major. They have the same notes but G major is a major key and E minor is a minor key.
If you're playing over E minor, and you play the notes:
G A B C D E F# G
why in god's green earth would you tell someone you're playing in G major when its clearly E minor?
decko87 2 years ago 2
It's more E aeolian, E minor would have a raised seventh (E F# G A B C D#) and playing in G major would still sound awesome because you'd be playing off of the third. It wouldn't sound major because the backing chords are minor.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
i'm going to assume you're not stupid, k?
E aeolian would be correct if this was modal. It's not. Please research modal music before trying to disprove me.
The raised 6th and 7th are optional in E minor.
playing in g major is impossible because the track isn't in G, it's in E. It makes no sense to say you're playing in G major when you're actually playing in E minor. the phrase "playing off the third" makes no sense.
Please research relative keys before trying to disprove me.
decko87 2 years ago
Are you fucking stupid? Obviously you're a musical idiot, because modal music is music that generaly centers around one chord. If I play D major and C major as a chord progression that is a mixolydian chord progression, and if I play E minor D major that is an E aeolian chord progression. Futhermore you can substitute scales over a given chord progression. Say you're in E minor, well you can play E aeolian, harmonic minor, melodic minor, phrygian, minor pentatonic, dorian, blues, G major ect...
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
this is all correct apart from your first and very last statements.
You can play E minor(lets call it aeolian even though its not, i might get back to that later), harmonic minor, melodic minor, phrygian, minor pentatonic, dorian, blues, etc, but NOT G major. do you not see that thats the only scale you've listed that doesnt have a tonic centre of E? You can't just play some other scale over an E backing, thats not the way music works. the notes you play always have some relation to the tonic
decko87 2 years ago
First off it is Aeolian because it has a B minor chord in the song. E minor would have a major five chord. Secondly maybe you can't play G major, but I sure as hell can, fuck I can play D major over this as well and it sounds bitchen, and I even play C major over the turnaroun (because it shifts to the key of C major) so if you can't play those keys I'd think long and hard about what you can play, because the rest of us can make G major work so you should probably go practice.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
Whats with you guys and your reliance to the scales, the best players just play the notes that sound best. I could never imagine Jimi arguing with someone like this about what scale to use with this song. He'd probably just say something like play whatever sounds nice.
yoyoyo17941113 2 years ago 4
E aeolian is A minor firt off, 2nd the raised 7th would be harmonic minor if im not mistaken. Everything is modal. Satriani uses a form of theory called pitch axis with uses the Root as a fulcrum if you would to move around sonically within the correct key.
SAIBOT64 2 years ago
its not modal at all! since when did Bbm or F major fit into E Aeolian? Raising the 7th note in a minor key is optional but you CAN'T use outside notes when playing modally. Thats what defines the modal musical system, which i admit is quite complicated. But thats no excuse to make incorrect statements. Pitch Axis is irrelevant. Sunderlanding is an idiot, and doesn't realise that he's not actually playing the scales he thinks he is. Scales are collections of notes not box patterns on the guitar.
decko87 2 years ago
Actually modal means one chord. Then you can play with the modes over top. That's what it meant when Coltrane was doing it in the sixties. Maybe you should learn something about theory idiot.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
Thats not true. I understand how you came to that conclusion, but it's inaccurate. Either way, this clearly isn't modal. It's in E minor.
Now that I think about it, its kinda funny how you said "Actually modal means one chord" =D Totally wrong like. Try studying some gregorian music - that was modal and most certainly didn't just use one chord. Nor is "Paperback Writer" by the Beatles modal even though it just uses mostly one chord. Whoever told you that got you good.
decko87 2 years ago
First off this is G Major (or E Aeolian) with shift to C Major. E Minor implies a major five chord which would be Harmonic or Melodic to include the D#. Now modal is a term that implies one chord or a harmonic center in which the improviser uses a series of modes related to that chord to play over. Ex. Emin you could play (E Aeolin, E Dorian, E Phrygian, or any number of scales that involve an E Minor chord) A good example of modal music is Coltranes "A Love Supreme".
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
naw man ya just dont listen
g major isnt e aeolian
and youre talking about pitch axis or something else totally
do you think the gregorian monks did that kinda shit? you're nuts man. you're off the chain.
decko87 2 years ago
G Major and E Aeolian have all the same notes. G Major is G A B C D E F# and E Aeolian is E F# G A B C D so yes they are basically the same scale.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
theyre totally different mate. Theyre made out of different musical systems. Its like saying that a basketball and a pumpkin are basically the same cause theyre both round and orange. G major is tonal and E Aeolian is modal. Theres no similarity apart from that they contain the same notes. You and I probably have the same components, eyes, nose, ears, but I'm obviously much smarter and better than you so we're not the same.
E Aeolian sounds NOTHING LIKE G major = )
decko87 2 years ago
Are you a fucking idiot? I never said they sounded the same I said they are bascially the same scale. BASICALLY THE SAME. By having the same notes, they are basically the same thing. Or didn't you get that far in school? Of course they sound different otherwise what would be the point of the modes? Why don't you read all the posts so you know what we were talking about. Then you won't sound like a total douche when you post.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
naw mate theyre not the same, not basically or at all. Aeolean is 1 2 b3 4 5 b6b7, major is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. totally different and no similarities except for the superficial.
The point is, you can't solo over this song in G major cause you'd actually be using the E minor intervals, and you can't solo in E Aeolean cause its not modal.
decko87 2 years ago
Maybe you can't, but I sure as hell can. You should look into that it might open up your playing.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
no you can't
explain to me how you can
decko87 2 years ago
Simple. Put your hands in G major position. Press play on the jam track. Play the scale along with the song. Follow these simple steps and maybe one day you'll be able to play.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
a scale isn't a position on a guitar. A scale is a collection of notes that can be played on any instrument in any octave. Now I realise where you've been going wrong, and this is also the exact moment when I have won.
decko87 2 years ago
According to your logic. G Major is quite different from E minor. So If I play in that position I'm playing G major. I'm just using your own logic back on you, but I guess your too stupid to realize that.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
According to all known music theory, E minor is the parallell key of G-major and contains exactly the same notes which gives that You can play a E-minor scale over a G-major chord and vice-versa. Btw. is modal improvisation something completely different, but even if You have a modal chord progression around A-minor for instance - it's perfectly OK to play both E-minor, G-major, A-dorian and even C-lydian scales since they contains the same notes... Got it brothers ?
Staffy1964 2 years ago
That's what I was saying.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
thats not true. you can't play C lydian over G major cause youre ACTUALLY PLAYING G MAJOR YOU TWAT.
decko87 2 years ago
So you said that G major wasn't the same as E minor, and now you're saying they are the same? You should really pick a side and stick with it. All these contradictions just make you look stupid, but I guess you're probably used to that.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
i dunno why i'm wasting my time educating you, you're totally unteachable. E minor and G major have the same notes but they're completely different. I never said otherwise. Ya twat.
decko87 2 years ago
Actually you did say different, but you've contradicted yourself so many times at this point it's laughable. Look obviously you don't know much about scales, there are lots of sites on the internet that'll help you learn. Come back in a couple of years when you know something.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
I know everything
decko87 2 years ago
you guys seem to be getting mixed up between musical note bullshit ... yes they may have the same notes but its all about how you play them than gives it the major/modal feel what you start and end your phrases on ect
xklettex 2 years ago
lol sorry man i know youre trying to help but that's not true. Phrasing has absolutely nothing to do with modes. The backing chords has more to do with it. You can't play C lydian over an E minor progression no matter how hard you try.
decko87 2 years ago
well you can... there's no telling how bad it might sound but.... you can play it over it
s3r3nitys33k3r33 2 years ago
no you can't. If you play those notes over this song youre playing E minor. That's it. You can't play in C lydian cause you'd actually be playing in E minor. Can't play in G major cause its actually E minor. Can't play in E phrygian cause it's actually E minor.
decko87 2 years ago
e aeolian would be E minor, not phrygian. at least im pretty sure man. other than that, youre totally bang on.
MrMeist 2 years ago
if you play the notes of E phrygian, ie. "E F G A B C D" over this song, you're playing E MINOR with an accidental, F instead of F#. Not E phrygian or anything else.
decko87 2 years ago
no because youre using the notes of E minor
decko87 2 years ago
actually your an idiot because that scale you listed is E harmonic minor commonly used in baroque music and metal, blues sticks with Blues pentatonic major and minor scales. E F# G A B C D would be e minor way to shit on a guy who probably meant what most of you said except for this guy of course
SAIBOT64 2 years ago
Actually when you say minor it implies harmonic and melodic. If you play in a minor key you're supposed to play a major five chord, which would give you a D sharp in the key of E minor, the scale you're talking about would be refered to as Aeolian. Granted nowadays most people don't know basic theory so minor could mean Dorian, Harmonic, Aeolian or even Phrygian. Reagardless the point is you can use Harmonic in a blues setting if you want, there is no this is how you have to play.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
your still playing in the 6th mode of G major as long as the emphasis and root are used properly its fine its a matter of opinion man, its like saying E#m or Fm
when its not in context its not as strict as you make it out, theory is a guideline no more.
SAIBOT64 2 years ago
dont play g major, youll sound like a dick. only an idiot would do that to these changes
lodaddy 2 years ago
Umm no it's not nub, it's in E rofl and if you can play over it in G then your guitar is seriously untuned maybe invest in a tuner? Or some guitar lessons?
DeadlyFilms 3 years ago
no the root is actually a g major but the solo is played mostly using an e minor penatonic scale ...maybe invest in some ear training lessons of your own
Stratman916 3 years ago
lmao niceeee :L
Rabby0605 3 years ago
This songs actually in G.
yoyoyo17941113 3 years ago
yeah is pretty fun to play over
noahrnlds 3 years ago
little bit too fast, but good mellow.
xylex81 3 years ago
where can I download this ?
nero0011 3 years ago
hendrix with a dress on... hahhaha
codehendrix 3 years ago
cool, but where is the intro, and why is it en E and not in Es
gamersguitar 3 years ago
you can play it with this bt.
tiagolascas 3 years ago
WHAT ABOUT THE INTRO? :P
Hb35Jazz 3 years ago
your meant to play it urself, and then press play
noahrnlds 3 years ago
Tk you so much..to bad is no longer. But your work rules anyway. Great help for jamming
Peace to all
CharlyGreyWolf 3 years ago
thanks for the great backing track man.this is one of my favorites.
thephilmyster 3 years ago
That is awesome! I wish it was longer. I am playing this in E on the 12th fret and it sounds pretty damn good.
blainiac1 3 years ago
because it is in E.
EricClaptonFan24 3 years ago
could you please upload bold as love???thanks!
sachito 4 years ago
i'll try to find that bt
tiagolascas 4 years ago
thanks man soon I will post a lesson for that, thanks for upload it!
sachito 4 years ago
Sweet!!! i Always Fuck Something Up In It I Don't Know What
DeavenMorris24 4 years ago
Just found it... it rules. Thanks buddy.
NumbNutz12000 4 years ago
im glad to know that was helpful!
tiagolascas 4 years ago
thank for this great backing track im jamming to it every day ;-)Max
mexxpexx 4 years ago