@christo930 It takes several seconds (which seems like an eternity) to stop. I upgraded the brakes to bulldog rim brakes with stickier brake pads, but they still stink of burning rubber during a hard stop. The original Huffy brakes collapsed and broke during a panic stop when a truck pulled out in front of me while I was only going about 20MPH.
I don't recommend rim brakes for ebikes, but this old Huffy has no provisions for disc brakes.
BTW, this Huffy can reach 57MPH now at 132v, same motor.
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf That bike is a death trap. Huffy bikes are built really cheaply and they can't take much torque and I wouldn't want to hit a bump on a bike with no suspension and a cheap frame at 57mph. What about the brake caliper unit, did you put a hardened steed bolt to replace the stock one? On my old Huffy there is only 1 bolt on the rear brake unit that connects it to the frame and I serious doubt it could take the stress of trying to stop several hundred pounds moving at 57mph.
@christo930 Part of what you say is true, which is the reason I am building a different ebike.
"Huffy bikes are built really cheaply and they can't take much torque" is highly misleading. Early 90's Huffy bikes were built & welded with US steel and labor. Thus they were heavy & poor for traditional cycling. However, they can take tremendous torque as I have proven again and again. Even after I had a crash that occurred when a truck pulled out in front of me, the frame was unscathed.
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf What did the setup cost you? I am thinking about putting a motor on my bike and it seems that the electric kits are much heavier and much more expensive, while being much quieter and smooth and can accelerate faster. Are their other pros/cons of an electric add-on system? What is your range on your bike?.
@christo930 The cost adds up quickly. I probably have $1400 total invested in a $30 bicycle.
Advantages include the stealth aspect. Most people don't realize you are electric if you are faux pedaling. They just think you are the best cyclist they've ever seen because they can't hear the motor. Operating electric bikes is much cheaper than gas.
Range is a question I get asked a lot. So, I often ask the person back how far does your car go at full throttle vs. a reasonable speed. No one knows.
Please I have to know how is your front hub motor holding. Are you using a torque arm. I also have a 72V front hub kit but still waiting for my battery. I worry that the front holding the hub motor will break. The recommendation is to not start when you're standing still but to wait until you have some speed because the torque will be powerful. What are your opinion.
@nattsurfaren Originally, I had just one 3/16" steel torque arm on the left side. After my first major wreck, during the rebuild, I noticed the right dropout was opening up over time. So after the rebuild, I installed two 3/16" steel torque arms on each side of the motor. I also ground the dropouts on each side about 1/4" deeper than the original design. It works much better. I can give the motor full throttle at a dead standstill. The tire does a sweet burnout before accelerating to speed.
Thanks for the info. I didn't understand this correctly "I also ground the dropouts on each side about 1/4" deeper than the original design". Maybe because I'm Swedish :).
@xxwesdogxx I used to NOT wear a helmet. However, a $12K Emergency Room visit later (after a truck pulled out in front of me while I was only going 21MPH), changed my mind. I NOW wear a full-face "downhiller's" bike helmet, leather boots, long sleeve shirt, long pants, and leather gloves. The bicycle can now reach 57MPH, but I haven't figured out how to video-record it yet.
@intscout4x4 It's a very complete kit, You'll find it easy to put together. Then, you might get "the bug" like I did and start upgrading it piece by piece to extract more power and speed. Those modifications become a hobby in and of itself. Of course, riding it is a blast!
thanks for the reply back. maybe i should go lithium also. i would like to go on average, a bit more than 15 mph. i would be riding in city traffic, and that's an average of 25 to 30 mph. but thanks again.
nice video, good information about the bike...what it has and what it can do. and you show it, not just talk, like other videos. i'm going to try this on my bike. i like what you did. by-the-way, on your setup, how long does the charge last and how many miles can you go, without hill-climbing, before you re-charge? great bike.
@packagewarren I get the charge duration question alot. It's similar to "how far can your car go on a tank of gas?" It all depends on how fast you go. If you go full throttle like I do in the video, the batteries don't last 10 miles. But if you go a sensible 15MPH, you can go at least 30 miles. My current batteries are sealed lead acid (SLA). Good choice for low maintenance, bad choice for performance. I'll be upgrading to Lithium batteries in a few months, so I'll be able to go 100 miles.
@ConnorXV It pulls pretty hard uphill, but obviously the top speed is lower (mid-30's).
I added a speed switch recently, so I can accelerate from a dead stop without burning out. The 3 selector switch changes the accelerator to modulate from 0-20, 0-35, and 0-top speed, depending on whether the handle-bar mounted switch is set to I, II, or III.
At least you using an old steel bike which are stronger (and transmit less road noise) than the current cheap crap. But still don't like people fitting motors to front forks as they not designed to take ANY torque at all (rear is). Accelerate slowly.
@0urGaia Tire friction on a motorized front wheel self-limits the torque on the front forks. (See my burn-out videos). The tire breaks traction easily on hard acceleration. Besides, front forks are designed to take the torque generated during full braking and even over-braking to the point of flipping the bike, although admittedly that torque is experienced in hard deceleration.
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf, I know forks can break from first hand experience since my concern, but you right, never considered loss of traction would limit torque, thank you for setting me straight.
@ultradestruction - I had a professional bike shop lace the 12 gauge spokes from the hub motor to a quality double walled 26" rim. I do not feel qualified to perform that task myself. A LOT of eBikers do their oen spoke lacing and have been very successful. There is no reason why that a 27" rim couldn't be laced to a 530x hub motor. People on the "Endless Sphere" website do it all the time, often with smalled rear rims on a rear hub motor to increase torque to do wheelies.
i am considering getting this kit for my schwin hybrid 700c. i live in seattle and i'm tired of relying on public transport and i don't have a licence. comparing to other electric scooters it seems like a winner. do you recommend this kit?
@rifleman098 - Yes, I recommend the kit and the company that sells it. They include virtually everything you need to transform a regular bicycle into an "electric assist" bicycle that will consistantly exceed 40MPH without pedaling. If you want to pedal, it still wotks great as a bicycle, too!
i am considering getting this kit for my schwin hybrid 700c. i live in seattle and i'm tired of relying on public transport and i don't have a licence. comparing to other electric scooters it seems like a winner. do you recommend this bike kit?
@TheBlackirish7 It varies depending on speed. At a constant 30MPH, the range is about 15 miles. At a constant 15MPH, the range is about 30 miles. The ranges are without pedaling. Pedaling increases the range considerably at the lower speeds, but not much at the higher speeds. Over 40MPH can be sustained for 5 miles, then the top speed drops slowly. One day I plan to go full throttle until the battery runs out completely, just to see what the total range is.
No pedaling, except when I started of to get my balance.
When I pedal I can get to 47MPH, but it requires two hands on the handlebars, so I don't know how to get a video of it.
BTW, I noticed today, my rear brake was dragging a little and I fixed it. When I left my house and hit top speed with no pedaling, I got to 44MPH on level ground.
Is this something you have to charge in the garage or does it build a charge by you peddeling?
thingjob 2 days ago
Pretty fast, pretty fast!
VideoQuestEx 2 weeks ago
How quickly can you stop? How many feet does it take to for you to stop from 30mph? Are you using standard rim based huffy brake shoes?
christo930 4 months ago
@christo930 It takes several seconds (which seems like an eternity) to stop. I upgraded the brakes to bulldog rim brakes with stickier brake pads, but they still stink of burning rubber during a hard stop. The original Huffy brakes collapsed and broke during a panic stop when a truck pulled out in front of me while I was only going about 20MPH.
I don't recommend rim brakes for ebikes, but this old Huffy has no provisions for disc brakes.
BTW, this Huffy can reach 57MPH now at 132v, same motor.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 4 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf That bike is a death trap. Huffy bikes are built really cheaply and they can't take much torque and I wouldn't want to hit a bump on a bike with no suspension and a cheap frame at 57mph. What about the brake caliper unit, did you put a hardened steed bolt to replace the stock one? On my old Huffy there is only 1 bolt on the rear brake unit that connects it to the frame and I serious doubt it could take the stress of trying to stop several hundred pounds moving at 57mph.
christo930 4 months ago
@christo930 Part of what you say is true, which is the reason I am building a different ebike.
"Huffy bikes are built really cheaply and they can't take much torque" is highly misleading. Early 90's Huffy bikes were built & welded with US steel and labor. Thus they were heavy & poor for traditional cycling. However, they can take tremendous torque as I have proven again and again. Even after I had a crash that occurred when a truck pulled out in front of me, the frame was unscathed.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 4 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf What did the setup cost you? I am thinking about putting a motor on my bike and it seems that the electric kits are much heavier and much more expensive, while being much quieter and smooth and can accelerate faster. Are their other pros/cons of an electric add-on system? What is your range on your bike?.
christo930 4 months ago
@christo930 One other thing, 132 volts can easily break the skin, but can use thinner wires. Why are using such high voltage?
christo930 4 months ago
@christo930 The cost adds up quickly. I probably have $1400 total invested in a $30 bicycle.
Advantages include the stealth aspect. Most people don't realize you are electric if you are faux pedaling. They just think you are the best cyclist they've ever seen because they can't hear the motor. Operating electric bikes is much cheaper than gas.
Range is a question I get asked a lot. So, I often ask the person back how far does your car go at full throttle vs. a reasonable speed. No one knows.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 4 months ago
"90's vintage huffy"? lol Kids...
edstar83 5 months ago
@edstar83 I'm 53.
A 20 year old bike is OLD.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 5 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf No disrespect intended. Awesome vid.
Do you still ride the bike? I'm looking into getting a Chinese 48v 1000w kit from ebay giving that a try.
edstar83 5 months ago
@edstar83 Yes, I still do. I am building a full suspension Mongoose now with a 4KW rear motor. We'll see how those videos turn out.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 5 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf Hell yeah you just got me to subcribe! :D
edstar83 5 months ago
i want it, but i saw the price, and it's worth MORE than my CAR. lol
StevenBergstrom 5 months ago
@StevenBergstrom Real fun always is...
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 5 months ago
wow how on earth did you get it to go thAt fast
frohawk17 7 months ago
!!! WOAW!!! id BE HELLA SCARED!!!! hes smashin hella fast!!!
asainnoodle 8 months ago
im getting this this saturday CANT WAIT!!! :D and nice bike!
TweakSaan 8 months ago
@TweakSaan You will love it!
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 8 months ago
@TweakSaan You'll love it!
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 8 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf yeah i kno!!!! im super excited for it :D
TweakSaan 8 months ago
Please I have to know how is your front hub motor holding. Are you using a torque arm. I also have a 72V front hub kit but still waiting for my battery. I worry that the front holding the hub motor will break. The recommendation is to not start when you're standing still but to wait until you have some speed because the torque will be powerful. What are your opinion.
nattsurfaren 9 months ago
@nattsurfaren Originally, I had just one 3/16" steel torque arm on the left side. After my first major wreck, during the rebuild, I noticed the right dropout was opening up over time. So after the rebuild, I installed two 3/16" steel torque arms on each side of the motor. I also ground the dropouts on each side about 1/4" deeper than the original design. It works much better. I can give the motor full throttle at a dead standstill. The tire does a sweet burnout before accelerating to speed.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 9 months ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf
Thanks for the info. I didn't understand this correctly "I also ground the dropouts on each side about 1/4" deeper than the original design". Maybe because I'm Swedish :).
nattsurfaren 9 months ago
Helmets?! Darn! There goes the organ donatiions...
Cuzilla47 9 months ago
shit dude u beter be wearing a helmet XD
xxwesdogxx 9 months ago
@xxwesdogxx I used to NOT wear a helmet. However, a $12K Emergency Room visit later (after a truck pulled out in front of me while I was only going 21MPH), changed my mind. I NOW wear a full-face "downhiller's" bike helmet, leather boots, long sleeve shirt, long pants, and leather gloves. The bicycle can now reach 57MPH, but I haven't figured out how to video-record it yet.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 9 months ago
im buying this same kit! wish me luck
intscout4x4 1 year ago
@intscout4x4 It's a very complete kit, You'll find it easy to put together. Then, you might get "the bug" like I did and start upgrading it piece by piece to extract more power and speed. Those modifications become a hobby in and of itself. Of course, riding it is a blast!
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
Do you get pulled over?
MusicThatDoesNotSuck 1 year ago
@MusicThatDoesNotSuck Nope. I generally scout the area before I do a "speed run".
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
Just wondering, would it be sensible to stick an electric motor to a Kink Curb (Bmx)? Even though it's a Bmx, i just use it for riding around.
shorts5551 1 year ago
@shorts5551 There are people doing BMX conversions on the endless-sphere forums website.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
thanks for the reply back. maybe i should go lithium also. i would like to go on average, a bit more than 15 mph. i would be riding in city traffic, and that's an average of 25 to 30 mph. but thanks again.
packagewarren 1 year ago
nice video, good information about the bike...what it has and what it can do. and you show it, not just talk, like other videos. i'm going to try this on my bike. i like what you did. by-the-way, on your setup, how long does the charge last and how many miles can you go, without hill-climbing, before you re-charge? great bike.
packagewarren 1 year ago
@packagewarren I get the charge duration question alot. It's similar to "how far can your car go on a tank of gas?" It all depends on how fast you go. If you go full throttle like I do in the video, the batteries don't last 10 miles. But if you go a sensible 15MPH, you can go at least 30 miles. My current batteries are sealed lead acid (SLA). Good choice for low maintenance, bad choice for performance. I'll be upgrading to Lithium batteries in a few months, so I'll be able to go 100 miles.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
camera...on...helmet please? other than that, this is what i want for christmas.
ConnorXV 1 year ago
@ConnorXV I don't own a helmet-cam... sorry.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf a bit of tape and some straps should do. : P
ConnorXV 1 year ago
@ConnorXV It's kinda hard to duct tape or strap my BlackBerry to my helmet, but I'll give it a try.
BTW, my top speed on Saturday was 46MPH using a better controller.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf oh, ok sorry. 46MPH cool lol, is it any good uphill or does it just do straights and flats?
ConnorXV 1 year ago
@ConnorXV It pulls pretty hard uphill, but obviously the top speed is lower (mid-30's).
I added a speed switch recently, so I can accelerate from a dead stop without burning out. The 3 selector switch changes the accelerator to modulate from 0-20, 0-35, and 0-top speed, depending on whether the handle-bar mounted switch is set to I, II, or III.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
Where I can buy a kit like this?
SteveBocaranda 1 year ago
@SteveBocaranda w w w.electricrider.c o m/crystalyte/phoenix
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
At least you using an old steel bike which are stronger (and transmit less road noise) than the current cheap crap. But still don't like people fitting motors to front forks as they not designed to take ANY torque at all (rear is). Accelerate slowly.
0urGaia 1 year ago
@0urGaia Tire friction on a motorized front wheel self-limits the torque on the front forks. (See my burn-out videos). The tire breaks traction easily on hard acceleration. Besides, front forks are designed to take the torque generated during full braking and even over-braking to the point of flipping the bike, although admittedly that torque is experienced in hard deceleration.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
@idgvdfvdsfhvdf, I know forks can break from first hand experience since my concern, but you right, never considered loss of traction would limit torque, thank you for setting me straight.
0urGaia 1 year ago
I have 27 inch tires rather than 26 inch. Is it possible for me to buy the hub without the wheel, or the 26inch wheel comes with the hub?
ultradestruction 1 year ago
@ultradestruction - I had a professional bike shop lace the 12 gauge spokes from the hub motor to a quality double walled 26" rim. I do not feel qualified to perform that task myself. A LOT of eBikers do their oen spoke lacing and have been very successful. There is no reason why that a 27" rim couldn't be laced to a 530x hub motor. People on the "Endless Sphere" website do it all the time, often with smalled rear rims on a rear hub motor to increase torque to do wheelies.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
1990s is Vintage?? O^O
Dreambro1 1 year ago
@Dreambro1 - In the world of bicycles it is!
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
i am considering getting this kit for my schwin hybrid 700c. i live in seattle and i'm tired of relying on public transport and i don't have a licence. comparing to other electric scooters it seems like a winner. do you recommend this kit?
rifleman098 1 year ago
@rifleman098 - Yes, I recommend the kit and the company that sells it. They include virtually everything you need to transform a regular bicycle into an "electric assist" bicycle that will consistantly exceed 40MPH without pedaling. If you want to pedal, it still wotks great as a bicycle, too!
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
i am considering getting this kit for my schwin hybrid 700c. i live in seattle and i'm tired of relying on public transport and i don't have a licence. comparing to other electric scooters it seems like a winner. do you recommend this bike kit?
rifleman098 1 year ago
range??
TheBlackirish7 1 year ago
@TheBlackirish7 It varies depending on speed. At a constant 30MPH, the range is about 15 miles. At a constant 15MPH, the range is about 30 miles. The ranges are without pedaling. Pedaling increases the range considerably at the lower speeds, but not much at the higher speeds. Over 40MPH can be sustained for 5 miles, then the top speed drops slowly. One day I plan to go full throttle until the battery runs out completely, just to see what the total range is.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
jesus thats pretty hectic
Crabtronics 1 year ago
Dude!!! u weren't really going that fast without peddaling were you???
kenozorro 1 year ago 2
No pedaling, except when I started of to get my balance.
When I pedal I can get to 47MPH, but it requires two hands on the handlebars, so I don't know how to get a video of it.
BTW, I noticed today, my rear brake was dragging a little and I fixed it. When I left my house and hit top speed with no pedaling, I got to 44MPH on level ground.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 1 year ago
@kenozorro Pedaling? What's pedaling?
Nope. No pedaling. Pure power.
idgvdfvdsfhvdf 8 months ago
Wow, that's impressive. I had no idea this technology even existed. 5*
NaltrexoneNotGod 2 years ago 4