It's all about interest, German colonized Dutch and Dutch colonized Indonesia (theory of ecology) the strong will eat the weak one hehehe...I never blame what Hitler did to Dutch and whole europe (to make europe as their colonies) BUT I blame what Nazy did to jews people.
1. they got rid off the colonialist dutch, 2. many weapons (after wwii over) were turned over to indonesians instead of to the allies (inc. dutch) to help indo fought the dutch. sure it was not all pleasant history, but the moral of history was that without them indo would have been milk cow by the dutch for who knows how long. they have helped moral boost for many asians to be proud of themselves and not being bullied by europeans. no matter you like it or not that is the fact.
After the defeat of the Japan there were still Dutch in Indonesia, the had to leave in 1957 when all the companies were nationalized by Sukarno. Indonesia was a milk cow for Japan, if you see the figures of Dutch administration you can see that the Netherlands did not profit from Indonesia for decennia ( before wwII) and all the money was put into the colony so they could be independent in the next coming decennia.
@RogerNetherlands which history u read? your own? ? any occupier country not now, even more before, always make use of their occupied country. Be common sense, after hundred of years dutch never make profit out of indo? yes, some money put into colony but not for the indonesians, but for building infrastructure, which in turn to convenience the dutch living in indonesia. if u read indo history, herbs, spices, others taken by dutch to be sold in europe.
@RogerNetherlands even there are period 18 th century where slave workers used to build road. I'm very familiar with indo history, I suggest u read history but the independent not biased one. I understand u are on your countryman side, but a wiseman admits fact. at least, japan compensated indo, dutch never did & the amount must be massively big if converted to current amount, that milking lasted for hundred of years. not to mention crimes commited by dutch military to civilian
Your still talking about the 19th century, but after the ethische politiek everything changed, Dutch compensated Indoensia a lot, but Indonsian government refused the money, before 1800 the Dutch government was not in the Indies, but the comapny Dutch East Indies Company, they were gone after 1792, Dutch East india Comapny were Hollanders, Germans, British, Africans, French etc
@RogerNetherlands indo accepted compensation from japan, beyond my imagination that indo govt refused any compensation from dutch with newly formed country in need of money. this refusal never been recorded, certainly not in indo history book. for indonesian don't matter who profitted, VOC, the netherlands, dutch govt or whoever, they only knew that the wealth was exploited and natural sources was made a huge profit.
@RogerNetherlands APRA in java, westerling in sulawesi, he was never trialed for crimes executing civilians while hunting indo fighters. why? cause allies won the war. what japanese did was to change history indirectly help asian countries to be independent, otherwise u think dutch 'd ever leave indo with all this money to absorbed? who said dutch went back to bring peace & order ? they came to re-occupy indo, u must be brainwashed by ultra right wings idea. long live japan!
If you just read all the dossiers from that period you might change your vieuw on history.
By the way, the people who earned the most money of the Dutch East Indies were not that many people, the most of them lived in the Hague, the common Dutch people never profited from Dutch East Indies, the profits for the Netherlands were enourmous low and the last decennia there were more investments then profits.
@RogerNetherlands I'll never change my view cause I know the historical fact. who wrote the dossiers? does it just to show that the dutch never exploited indo during that hundred years? my source is any independent historical fact u can find. type this topic in the web, find any good well research history book that can confirm what u said. I bet u are not going to find any.
@RogerNetherlands I quote u info from a good source (not from indo's book) : "The colonial exploitation of Indonesia's wealth contributed to the industrialisation of the Netherlands. Before World War II, the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) produced most of the world's supply of quinine, pepper, rubber, coconut products, tea, sugar, coffee, and oil. The profit from the Dutch East Indies made the Netherlands one of the world's most significant colonial powers. " .. End of Story.
The profits from the Dutch East Indies were in 1938 about 338 miljon Dutch gulden, that's about 10% of the bruto national product of the Netherlands in that time, that's enourmous low, the Dutch government did not profit that much, it were the individual Dutch comapanies, And what you call Dutch are mainly the people from Holland, and Holland is not Netherlands, it's like blaming Java for the Vietnam war.
I was only talking about the period between 1946/47,
What made the Netherlands rich were not the colonies, because the Dutch West Indies were not profitable, the Netherlands became rich because of the geographical location in Europe, the costs of the colonies were very high because there are not that many Dutch people in the world ( i believe 10 million around that time ) The Dutch had to pay for two armies, two navies, two airforces etc, if you give me time i will show you the profits etc
@RogerNetherlands if the profit is so low, why the dutch army was so persistent and gone into all the trouble to re-occupy the country (1945-1948 war)? (please don't tell me it was to restore law & order).
I have great respect to these japanese soldiers who helped Indonesian toward independence, mereka harus dihargai, jangan dilupakan , tanpa mereka sejarah indo sudah berubah entah kemana. 日本は素晴らしいです
After the war,Japanese was study by US side of the war. I don't know many Asians History. I study Japanese so bad in Asia. but now I know many Asias history, I'm glad to born in Japan.
Fuck Japan and Fuck Indonesia too! I am so happy USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan. If Japan did not surrender USA would have killed every fuking Japanese left alive in the world!
Fuck Japan and Fuck Indonesia too! I am so happy USA dropped atomic boms on Japan. If Japan did not surrender USA would have killed every fuking Japanese left alive in the world!
Face the fact straight. If it weren't for the tireless effort of the Japanese military, the much of the southeast Asian nations would still have been the Western colonies. Japan lost to the US in battle, but in the end Japan accomplished their original goal: kicking the colonizing Western powers out of Asia.
Yang perlu disadari generasi muda Indonesia adalah bahwa sejarah selalu punya lebih dari satu sisi.... Tentara Jepang datang sebagai pembebas: BETUL; Tentara Jepang berubah menjadi penindas karena tekanan perang Dunia II: BETUL; tanpa kedatangan Jepang di nusantara, nusantara akan tetap berada di bawah penjajahan Kerajaan Belanda: BETUL... Namun Indonesia tidak berhutang kemerdekaan. Marilah belajar dari sejarah, saling menghormati dan saling bekerjasama dan maju sebagai sesama orang ASIA!!! :-)
@burnepleine I don't think so.... its a different civilization, however it shares similar genes, because the Japanese gene evolves from the migration of homo sapiens from south east asia..... well, commonly thats why east asians and south east asians share similar facial features.....
WTF this vid.. Japanese are invaders worse than Dutch did. Their fucking Hirohito caesar using Indonesian people and all the resources to helping them in Asia Pacific war. Many Indonesian girls used to be "JUGUN IANFU". Sometimes if Japan falls. I will be raped their princess and upload it on Youtube.
Japanese Army trained Indonesian youth, they became indonesian leaders. After the defeat of the war, Japanese Army gave weapons to indonesians, so Indonesian could fight against Dutch. Thousands of Japanese POW brokeaway and got in Indonesian Independence Army. They advised and commanded Indonesians. The volunteers are buried in Indonesian hero cemetary. Vietnam Independence war is very similar, Japanese volunteers advised and commanded Vietnamese.
Japanese Army surendered, so they did nothing, individual Japanese soldiers ( volunteers) did train the pemoeda's, they gave weapons to the Javan to fight English, Dutch, American, everybody who was the enemy of Japan. The fights did not make Indoensia independent, but the diplomatic efforts from Sukarno, Hatta etc, and the United Nations, killing all those innoncent people did not make the Republic Indonesia, what you talk about is very old nationalistic propaganda.
? There are no propaganda. Japanese volunteers are no relation to Japanese government. J gov surrendered to US, so they were not officially supported by J gov. Do you understand? If J gov admitted their support, it became to break armistice. They were volunteers and they volunteerly gave weapons to Indonesian and Vietnamese. The volunteers received honors from both Indonesian and Vitenamese President. If this became propaganda, it was not J but I and V one.
After the Dutch colonized the Indies, the Japenese colonized the Indies for their sources, after the Japanese colonization the Javanes people colonizated the Indies, The Dutch were preparing the whole archipel to be independent, that means al the different people in the Indies, the Moluccans fought against the Indonesians because they are not Indonesian, like the Papoa's, the Banjar, Timorese, Aceh people, and we got more than a million Indo people in the Netherlands.
The Moluccans only have a Dutch passport, but they are not Dutch, because the are wating to go back to the Republic of South Muluccas, but the country is occupied by the Javanese colonizaters, The Dutch government will not, and can not apoligize to the Javanese occupiers of the former Dutch East Indies, if we should aplogize we just ignore the rights of these people. Like Hatta said: The Javanese learned from the Dutch to be cruel.
Your point is interesiting. South Asia have many ethnic groups, so for some groups Dutch rule is better than indonesians'. OK. Good or not, Javanese the majority people of the area were dislike Dutch rule. They welcomed Japanese, and we smashed old rule and our volunteers got their independence movement. Both side had their justice. I want you to know the fact Japanese soldiers purely hoped independence. So they did their best. I'm OK you dont think so.
as an indonesian i love japan even old people in my village speak japanese when they meet each others and i feel great spirit and exiited when i watch them
actually indonesian and japan are brothers, because japan have austronesian blood ( o2b dna, southeast asian dna) and some words have some similiraty for example : suka (in indonesian meaning "like"), suki ( in japanese meaning "like" too)
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Also, fellow Indons - the Japs also committed acts of atrocities against our ancestors! Our women were made as Sex-slaves for their high-ranking officials, they "smuggled" quite a few of our fellow Indo's to Thailand to built a railroad for them and cause of that, thousands died due to mistreatment and abuse.
So get this clear in your head fellow Indons - NOBODY HELPED US GAIN INDEPENDENCE. IT WAS OUR OWN ANCESTORS THAT SHED THEIR BLOOD FOR OUR INDEPENDENCE.
hi.destroyxeverything u are not indonesian because indonesian dont call indonesia using "indon" word ( the "indon" word alaways used by indonesia hater and indonesian upset to be called with this name)
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I use "Indon" because it's a short form and if i use "Indo" i'd only be refering to the Indonesians who have Dutch ancestry in them.
And my previous comment was only for the "bumiputra". Not those with the blood of the colonialists.
And it's not only haters who uses the word "Indon".
Also, learn the TRUE history of the Japanese occupation in Indonesia. The torture and cutting off limbs of Indonesians, the Sex slavery of out women and the smuggling of our people to build them a railroad.
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Honestly, we Indonesians are grateful to the Japs. But if you REALLY studied the history, you'd know that WE Indonesians WERE the ONES whom FOUGHT for our Independence. It WASN'T the Japs. BUT US. Even after the Japs left, the Dutch returned. And there WERE quite alot of Japs that FOUGHT for the Dutch AGAINST US!
I know this because my Grandpa was part of the "Pemuda" aka Republican. It was us Indonesians against the Dutch, British, Japs AND British Indian troops.
so, that's the way Japanese soldier lived in Indonesia...
well, i guess Indonesia will forget the past 45' era, under the occupation. Now I look that Indonesians and Japanese deeply involved in many agreement and also both of em' shares many cultural identities as Batik and Tempe reach Japan, so does the Manga and Japanese culture reach the deep of Indonesian people.
we fought our selfs my uncle was 16 when he joined the
Heiho army we fought and died for our joined ideals
in the end General Immamura kept his promise and granted us total independence immamura gave us his arms and support and ordered us to continue untill Merdeka
Just to clarify the situation for some deluded bafoons, I got to point out that those Japanese soldiers have been decorated BY THE INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT ever since their independence, because they took part in the Indonesian civil war AFTER the WW2 when the greedy Dutch came back to RE-COLONISE it. So, they have been receiving pension for decades from the Indonesian government, and it's INDONESIANS who are calling them heroes, not the Japanese in Japan.
In Indonesia we already honor them as independence war hero. This old soldiers deserve great respect from us Indonesian. There's many sides to view the same event of the history. Japanese invasion on Asia was not a picnic, its horrid, violent and full of atrocities. But some of the Japanese soldier emerged from defeat to victory. From the fall of Japanese Empire to the victory of Indonesian Independence. Refused to go back and surrender, but continue to fight. I think they're the true soldier.
Any war campaign has its good and bad. I'm sure Japanese in World War done good as well as bad. But this video is wrong because it is trying to pertray legitimacy of the whole campaign. In nations where much was expected in national earnings, Japanese did the most bad then good.
If ur saying we are such a defenless nation back in 1945 its because those stupid dutchies troop were being so GodDamn WuzzBags then i would say Hell Yeah..but we did Kicked ur Grandpa caucasian ass back to where ever he came from..LOL..And for that i thank the Japs despite some of those heart breaking moments..
I Think being in Japs occupation for only 3,5 year..has thought we Indonesians much more valuable lessons than during the Dutch colonial occupation for 350 years. and that is How to Build an Army from a scratch..I think Japs soldiers are more tougher than those pussies Dutchies,,Fuckin Cock Sucking Pirates..ahahahhaha..imagine..Dutchies been Beaten up by Hitler in Europe and Japs in Asia..
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And Indonesians are real tough, invading defenseless nations, raping and terrorizing local civilians. That's basically all you learned from the Japanese during those 3.5 years.
Indonesia became Independent, it is the United Nations that gave this chance.
The US didn't have any colonies to begin with, it was the US which wanted Europe to get rid of it's colonies.
The true victor of ww2 was communism along with democracy.
Japan was not our enemy? Oh, sorry, guess we mistook their violent unprovoked aggression against it's neighbouring countries as violent unprovoked aggression against it's neighbouring countries.
Hey Dutch guy, think about why the UN made Netherland stop the war? Because you were trying re colonize Indonesia and suck up money from the people there. No excuse to the Japanese for the bad acts in the wartime. But your country is not as clean as you think it is.
You never read the UN dossier? The Dutch first came tho bring order into chaos, there was an anarchy going on and thousands people died. If you have a source that proves that national propganda of yours i would like to read it. That fairytale about sucking money from the Indonesians is so out of date propaganda, after 70 years i hope you people see that it's just a bunch of bullshit, ther is no source who proves that, it's just blind hate by people from today.
Your image of Japanese also, and that's exaggerated like Chienes and Korean propaganda.
This Video show the life of Mr. Fujikawa, he was Japanese soldier and Indonesian veteran. After WW2 he joined Indonesan Independence war. Probably after Independence war, he became Indonesian soldier or officer.
His decision to desert the Japanese Army was motivated by a mix of reasons, both practical and sentimental. He had been accidentally left behind when his unit shifted base. But he was also resentful at the way he had been treated in the wartime army, had an ill-defined sense that he could have a better life in the tropics and was inspired by Indonesia's burgeoning nationalist movement.
When the war ended, Hideo Fujiyama had to choose where his true loyalties lay. He decided not to return to Japan, but to stay in Indonesia, a country he barely knew.
I actuelly think that the Japs were ALOT more worser than the dutch. the dutch used indonesia as a ''normal'' colony because it was normal for ever european country to have a colony. but the japanise used indonesia as a murdercamp
Yes, the Dutch helped Indonesia with industralization, but the Indonesians were discriminated verry often by the Dutch. They weren't allowed to go to theatres and cafees and stuff like that because for the Dutch, Indonesians were equal to dogs. So when Japan came to Indonesia, the people thought that they were free now. Unfortunetly Japan was a imperial power for the first time and they threated the people not friendly. But from a bigger picture Japan helped Indonesia with its independence.
ye and that about discrimination was wrong from the dutch. it's a shame. but hoped that the dutch could do someting back to make the relation between the indonesians and dutch better
Korean decendent, Last name "Kim- 金" Man! He is a Korean who was forced to join the imperial army. Japs killed the whole family who refused to join. he might be one of them.
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Man! Japs never stop projecting themeselves as the good people. Fuuck that!. The sky knows, the ground knows, and whole countries know Japs brutally killed, raped Asians except inocent japs. Japs does not care how much it cost them to change their image. They buy everything with money, moeny talks.
Some of the japanese people are forced to join the imperial army back in those days.They didn't want to join an invasion in the name of imperialism.
And when they retreated back in 1945,there could be some Japanese soldiers who thought that they should pay for what they did, although forced by their government,by contributing in Indonesia's independence.
While others probably just found a new patriotism in Indonesia.
Well Actually The Japs Did Push the dutch away and help us at the first, but I dunno if you know anything about Romusha back then. Anyway is just history..
You guys are welcome here, and I think Me myself should watch this video fully before makin any comment.
Btw, lol "selamat siang" = "Konichiwa". This video is taken in Indonesia. take a look at the House Design.........
So... these so called 2000 Japanese soldiers who helped the "Indonesians" in their struggle for independence make up for the 4.000.000 Indonesians an 30.000 Indo's and Dutch who where murdered by the Japanese during the occupation?
Well if that's the price, remind me never tos ask a Japanese for any help...
No do matter of your criticism of me. However, If you say "ugly" to the soldiers who fought for independence of their country, Here is really "ugly" place to you.
Go to nobel place(where you think so). Don't come to "ugly" place anymore.
P.S...
After all, there was no progress in this discussion. I regret it very much.
I -was not able to say logically- have some responsibility, too.
I want the peoples in INDONESIA, JAPAN, & THE NETHERLANDS to talk about this problem more and more.
If you think of the people in Indonesia and the Orient as a partner to the future, not a slave or monkey, you should accept the various opinion a little more.
The reason is that, Netherlands became a
country that cannot do anything alone. It differs from old times.
There is many points that must be evaluated, like the video, too. However, it is certainly bad to have caused the war. Therefore, it apologized many times.
Nobody admires for the war, also in Indonesia. However, I think that it evaluates the points that should be evaluated, and has raised the order-MEDAL OF HERO.
For moral knight 'cincerelee' and about this ugly video One cannot compare and try to balance the unprecedented Jap WW2 atrocities with misdeeds of other nations in SE Asia. Jap WW2 crimes were simply out of proportion. Therefore: what 'other side'? Other side of your cheek, mister moral? This vid is a grave insult to the one million WW2 slave labour romushas that died under cruel Jap treatment. They cannot react, but survivors and living victims of Jap atrocities can.
However, I noticed soon. The best method for put out the war from this world is that: the esteem of other party's opinion by the discussion. "Esteem" is not the meaning of "agree" or "be unformed", but making an "effort to understand".
want to say is to want you to see both sides of the history. I want you to admit responsible also for you though there is no nature to admire for the war.
To: cincerelee You are a pseudo reality softener by uttering 'politeness' when discussing Jap WW2 crimes in cover-up diplomatic talk. The allied softness in handling off the Japanse WW2 atrocities after war made that both Japan and millions of its victims remain in trauma. Everyone can say their say in words they like to choose. Who are you to play the moral referee in the unprecedented Jap WW2 atrocities discussion.
i hate japanese soldier in ww2 they kill the dutch,indonesian,philiphines many of my father's friend was in the japanese camp and the japanese bomed pearl harbor
Hey you sorry ass jap it's a shame that you are not sorry and you are proud what your country has done to netherlands and indonesia go fuck yourself asshole
これ日本語の番組だけど英語字幕つけてくれないかなあ
こんなケースがあるなんて、日本人の私でも知らなかった
eri4449 1 week ago
It's all about interest, German colonized Dutch and Dutch colonized Indonesia (theory of ecology) the strong will eat the weak one hehehe...I never blame what Hitler did to Dutch and whole europe (to make europe as their colonies) BUT I blame what Nazy did to jews people.
arnoldbeecher 1 month ago
これらの兵士は英雄です。すべてのご協力いただき、ありがとうございます。彼らは、最高の栄誉を受けるに値します
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
Never forget Eduard Douwes Dekker and Poncke Princen.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
Japan wish world is peace
KOMET271 3 months ago
Now,Japan is one of the most peaceful country.
We wish world is peace.
KOMET271 3 months ago
1. they got rid off the colonialist dutch, 2. many weapons (after wwii over) were turned over to indonesians instead of to the allies (inc. dutch) to help indo fought the dutch. sure it was not all pleasant history, but the moral of history was that without them indo would have been milk cow by the dutch for who knows how long. they have helped moral boost for many asians to be proud of themselves and not being bullied by europeans. no matter you like it or not that is the fact.
mrryhenboss 3 months ago
@mrryhenboss
After the defeat of the Japan there were still Dutch in Indonesia, the had to leave in 1957 when all the companies were nationalized by Sukarno. Indonesia was a milk cow for Japan, if you see the figures of Dutch administration you can see that the Netherlands did not profit from Indonesia for decennia ( before wwII) and all the money was put into the colony so they could be independent in the next coming decennia.
Indonesia is a free country thanks to Sukarno.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands which history u read? your own? ? any occupier country not now, even more before, always make use of their occupied country. Be common sense, after hundred of years dutch never make profit out of indo? yes, some money put into colony but not for the indonesians, but for building infrastructure, which in turn to convenience the dutch living in indonesia. if u read indo history, herbs, spices, others taken by dutch to be sold in europe.
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands even there are period 18 th century where slave workers used to build road. I'm very familiar with indo history, I suggest u read history but the independent not biased one. I understand u are on your countryman side, but a wiseman admits fact. at least, japan compensated indo, dutch never did & the amount must be massively big if converted to current amount, that milking lasted for hundred of years. not to mention crimes commited by dutch military to civilian
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@mrryhenboss
Your still talking about the 19th century, but after the ethische politiek everything changed, Dutch compensated Indoensia a lot, but Indonsian government refused the money, before 1800 the Dutch government was not in the Indies, but the comapny Dutch East Indies Company, they were gone after 1792, Dutch East india Comapny were Hollanders, Germans, British, Africans, French etc
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands indo accepted compensation from japan, beyond my imagination that indo govt refused any compensation from dutch with newly formed country in need of money. this refusal never been recorded, certainly not in indo history book. for indonesian don't matter who profitted, VOC, the netherlands, dutch govt or whoever, they only knew that the wealth was exploited and natural sources was made a huge profit.
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands APRA in java, westerling in sulawesi, he was never trialed for crimes executing civilians while hunting indo fighters. why? cause allies won the war. what japanese did was to change history indirectly help asian countries to be independent, otherwise u think dutch 'd ever leave indo with all this money to absorbed? who said dutch went back to bring peace & order ? they came to re-occupy indo, u must be brainwashed by ultra right wings idea. long live japan!
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@mrryhenboss
If you just read all the dossiers from that period you might change your vieuw on history.
By the way, the people who earned the most money of the Dutch East Indies were not that many people, the most of them lived in the Hague, the common Dutch people never profited from Dutch East Indies, the profits for the Netherlands were enourmous low and the last decennia there were more investments then profits.
I really like to see your source?
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands I'll never change my view cause I know the historical fact. who wrote the dossiers? does it just to show that the dutch never exploited indo during that hundred years? my source is any independent historical fact u can find. type this topic in the web, find any good well research history book that can confirm what u said. I bet u are not going to find any.
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands I quote u info from a good source (not from indo's book) : "The colonial exploitation of Indonesia's wealth contributed to the industrialisation of the Netherlands. Before World War II, the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) produced most of the world's supply of quinine, pepper, rubber, coconut products, tea, sugar, coffee, and oil. The profit from the Dutch East Indies made the Netherlands one of the world's most significant colonial powers. " .. End of Story.
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@mrryhenboss
The profits from the Dutch East Indies were in 1938 about 338 miljon Dutch gulden, that's about 10% of the bruto national product of the Netherlands in that time, that's enourmous low, the Dutch government did not profit that much, it were the individual Dutch comapanies, And what you call Dutch are mainly the people from Holland, and Holland is not Netherlands, it's like blaming Java for the Vietnam war.
I was only talking about the period between 1946/47,
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@mrryhenboss
What made the Netherlands rich were not the colonies, because the Dutch West Indies were not profitable, the Netherlands became rich because of the geographical location in Europe, the costs of the colonies were very high because there are not that many Dutch people in the world ( i believe 10 million around that time ) The Dutch had to pay for two armies, two navies, two airforces etc, if you give me time i will show you the profits etc
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands if the profit is so low, why the dutch army was so persistent and gone into all the trouble to re-occupy the country (1945-1948 war)? (please don't tell me it was to restore law & order).
mrryhenboss 2 months ago
@mrryhenboss
Prestige
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands
No there was no prestige. The prestige was perfectly lost only the 3 months battle in 1942. Indonesian freed from their master's myth.
googogoo1 2 months ago
@googogoo1
I don't know what you are refering to, but i was answering a question of mrryhrnboss.
By the way, the KNIL isn't a real army, the KL which was sent in 1946 was an army.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
I have great respect to these japanese soldiers who helped Indonesian toward independence, mereka harus dihargai, jangan dilupakan , tanpa mereka sejarah indo sudah berubah entah kemana. 日本は素晴らしいです
mrryhenboss 3 months ago
@mrryhenboss
What did the Japanese do for the independence?
RogerNetherlands 3 months ago
この本が世界中で出版されることを望みます。
そのためなら寄付でも何でも協力したいです!
Daviysoh 6 months ago
これ発行されたのかな。
ぜひ読みたい。
supergolfa21 6 months ago
Why US attack to Islam?
suzukonokimoti 7 months ago
@suzukonokimoti
Because Islams are enemy of Israel.
googogoo1 7 months ago
They live only 8people. ; ;
After the war,Japanese was study by US side of the war. I don't know many Asians History. I study Japanese so bad in Asia. but now I know many Asias history, I'm glad to born in Japan.
And I love Indonesia & Turkey. I love muslim.
suzukonokimoti 7 months ago
Japonichie
Hamitaviciin 11 months ago
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Fuck Japan and Fuck Indonesia too! I am so happy USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan. If Japan did not surrender USA would have killed every fuking Japanese left alive in the world!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
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Fuck Japan and Fuck Indonesia too! I am so happy USA dropped atomic boms on Japan. If Japan did not surrender USA would have killed every fuking Japanese left alive in the world!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
Face the fact straight. If it weren't for the tireless effort of the Japanese military, the much of the southeast Asian nations would still have been the Western colonies. Japan lost to the US in battle, but in the end Japan accomplished their original goal: kicking the colonizing Western powers out of Asia.
bystanderTokyo 1 year ago 7
japan and Indonesia! FIGHT TOGETHER!
enemyslaughter45 1 year ago 5
英訳を付けたほうがいいと思います。
zousandazou 1 year ago 5
Yang perlu disadari generasi muda Indonesia adalah bahwa sejarah selalu punya lebih dari satu sisi.... Tentara Jepang datang sebagai pembebas: BETUL; Tentara Jepang berubah menjadi penindas karena tekanan perang Dunia II: BETUL; tanpa kedatangan Jepang di nusantara, nusantara akan tetap berada di bawah penjajahan Kerajaan Belanda: BETUL... Namun Indonesia tidak berhutang kemerdekaan. Marilah belajar dari sejarah, saling menghormati dan saling bekerjasama dan maju sebagai sesama orang ASIA!!! :-)
sanowasi 1 year ago 3
彼らこそが本物の東亜解放の戦士だったんだな！
dokudami2977 1 year ago 4
japanese and indonesia both people share the same DNA
they share the same ancestry
Japan is part of the malay civilization
burnepleine 1 year ago
@burnepleine I don't think so.... its a different civilization, however it shares similar genes, because the Japanese gene evolves from the migration of homo sapiens from south east asia..... well, commonly thats why east asians and south east asians share similar facial features.....
sanowasi 1 year ago
@burnepleine i agree.. just look at that Old man... he was just like any other indonesian Old man..
enemyslaughter45 1 year ago
私は、インドネシアと日本の将来を確立し続けることと良好な関係を維持願っています
sorry for my bad japanese language
onlyrom26 1 year ago 3
@onlyrom26 気にしないでください。 誠意は伝わっていますから。
ggdango 1 year ago
脱走兵などと汚名を着せられどんなに悲しく苦しかったことでしょうか・・・
我々日本国民はあなたがたの生き様を、日本人として尊敬し誇りに思います。
yokacora 1 year ago 6
すごい、、私にはまねできないよ。同盟国でもない、勝算も危うい、利益も何もなかった他国の独立戦争のために死ぬなんて。私なら普通に逃げてるよ。。。
tarou3917 1 year ago 3
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WTF this vid.. Japanese are invaders worse than Dutch did. Their fucking Hirohito caesar using Indonesian people and all the resources to helping them in Asia Pacific war. Many Indonesian girls used to be "JUGUN IANFU". Sometimes if Japan falls. I will be raped their princess and upload it on Youtube.
vesper868 1 year ago
私は先人たちのしてきた真実を知ってる
学校で学んだことは全て嘘だって知ってる
日本を誇りに思います 先人たちを誇りに思います。全員です。
nippon2906 1 year ago 36
So its true.., Old soldier never die....!
Salute for elderly Japanese soldier that fought for Indonesia...
"Hormat pada mbah-mbah Jepang yang jadi pahlawan Indonesia..."
gunjakarta 1 year ago 7
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Do you know how many Indonesian people were killed by Japanese soldiers???
Japanese Government NEVER APOLOGIZE WHAT TO DO FOR THEM!
FindAHistory 2 years ago
Korean was Japanese until 1945.
So korean also did badthing in Indonesia.
So Koeran Goverment apologoze Vietnamese?
ggdango 2 years ago 7
@FindAHistory
Japanese government apologized and compensated for Indonesian, however Dutch did not so.
South Korea never apologize and compensate Vietnamese.
googogoo1 2 years ago 24
@googogoo1
Ask your father, USA why they apologize xD
FindAHistory 1 year ago
@googogoo1
The whole navy, airforce and all the companies were givin' to Indonesia by the Dutch. The rest, why give compesation for what? years of colonisation?
RogerNetherlands 3 months ago
@RogerNetherlands
Japanese Army trained Indonesian youth, they became indonesian leaders. After the defeat of the war, Japanese Army gave weapons to indonesians, so Indonesian could fight against Dutch. Thousands of Japanese POW brokeaway and got in Indonesian Independence Army. They advised and commanded Indonesians. The volunteers are buried in Indonesian hero cemetary. Vietnam Independence war is very similar, Japanese volunteers advised and commanded Vietnamese.
googogoo1 2 months ago
@googogoo1
Japanese Army surendered, so they did nothing, individual Japanese soldiers ( volunteers) did train the pemoeda's, they gave weapons to the Javan to fight English, Dutch, American, everybody who was the enemy of Japan. The fights did not make Indoensia independent, but the diplomatic efforts from Sukarno, Hatta etc, and the United Nations, killing all those innoncent people did not make the Republic Indonesia, what you talk about is very old nationalistic propaganda.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands
? There are no propaganda. Japanese volunteers are no relation to Japanese government. J gov surrendered to US, so they were not officially supported by J gov. Do you understand? If J gov admitted their support, it became to break armistice. They were volunteers and they volunteerly gave weapons to Indonesian and Vietnamese. The volunteers received honors from both Indonesian and Vitenamese President. If this became propaganda, it was not J but I and V one.
googogoo1 2 months ago
@googogoo1
Then we understand each other, the Japanese volenteers.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@googogoo1
Dutch payed but the Indonesian government did not wamted the money, apologize will come in the future but not now, and everybody knows why?
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands
We dont know your remark.
googogoo1 2 months ago
@googogoo1
After the Dutch colonized the Indies, the Japenese colonized the Indies for their sources, after the Japanese colonization the Javanes people colonizated the Indies, The Dutch were preparing the whole archipel to be independent, that means al the different people in the Indies, the Moluccans fought against the Indonesians because they are not Indonesian, like the Papoa's, the Banjar, Timorese, Aceh people, and we got more than a million Indo people in the Netherlands.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@googogoo1
The Moluccans only have a Dutch passport, but they are not Dutch, because the are wating to go back to the Republic of South Muluccas, but the country is occupied by the Javanese colonizaters, The Dutch government will not, and can not apoligize to the Javanese occupiers of the former Dutch East Indies, if we should aplogize we just ignore the rights of these people. Like Hatta said: The Javanese learned from the Dutch to be cruel.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
@RogerNetherlands
Your point is interesiting. South Asia have many ethnic groups, so for some groups Dutch rule is better than indonesians'. OK. Good or not, Javanese the majority people of the area were dislike Dutch rule. They welcomed Japanese, and we smashed old rule and our volunteers got their independence movement. Both side had their justice. I want you to know the fact Japanese soldiers purely hoped independence. So they did their best. I'm OK you dont think so.
googogoo1 2 months ago
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Jangan tertalu jilat pantat orang Jepang.
destroyxeverything 2 years ago
as an indonesian i love japan even old people in my village speak japanese when they meet each others and i feel great spirit and exiited when i watch them
actually indonesian and japan are brothers, because japan have austronesian blood ( o2b dna, southeast asian dna) and some words have some similiraty for example : suka (in indonesian meaning "like"), suki ( in japanese meaning "like" too)
lansanak 2 years ago 4
Thanks lot.
I also belive one of Japanese origin from Indonesia.
In Okinawa, part of Japan use the word "campur", that's food.
ggdango 2 years ago 2
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Also, fellow Indons - the Japs also committed acts of atrocities against our ancestors! Our women were made as Sex-slaves for their high-ranking officials, they "smuggled" quite a few of our fellow Indo's to Thailand to built a railroad for them and cause of that, thousands died due to mistreatment and abuse.
So get this clear in your head fellow Indons - NOBODY HELPED US GAIN INDEPENDENCE. IT WAS OUR OWN ANCESTORS THAT SHED THEIR BLOOD FOR OUR INDEPENDENCE.
destroyxeverything 2 years ago
hi.destroyxeverything u are not indonesian because indonesian dont call indonesia using "indon" word ( the "indon" word alaways used by indonesia hater and indonesian upset to be called with this name)
u fucking shit liar
lansanak 2 years ago 6
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I use "Indon" because it's a short form and if i use "Indo" i'd only be refering to the Indonesians who have Dutch ancestry in them.
And my previous comment was only for the "bumiputra". Not those with the blood of the colonialists.
And it's not only haters who uses the word "Indon".
Also, learn the TRUE history of the Japanese occupation in Indonesia. The torture and cutting off limbs of Indonesians, the Sex slavery of out women and the smuggling of our people to build them a railroad.
destroyxeverything 2 years ago
u talking so much
i know u are malaysian, i have readed much of your comment that insult indonesia
uh fucking canny disgusting u are
lansanak 2 years ago
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Malaysian contot loe.
Loe harus terimah kenyataan. Yang Jepang itu bukan "angel".
Kamu tahu ngak, yang mereka pandang rendah orang-orang Indonesia? Try going to Japan if you don't believe me.
Don't be deluded with Jepang's propaganda.
destroyxeverything 2 years ago
destroyxeverything comment was similar Chinese or Korean.
And they are racist.
ggdango 2 years ago 5
yes i think he is a chinese
in indonesia chinese just like parasite
lansanak 2 years ago
OMG!!! We should abandon Indonesian like YOU in Indonesia..... What are you?? what a superficial person? Racist and Extremist!!
sixreasons 2 years ago
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Honestly, we Indonesians are grateful to the Japs. But if you REALLY studied the history, you'd know that WE Indonesians WERE the ONES whom FOUGHT for our Independence. It WASN'T the Japs. BUT US. Even after the Japs left, the Dutch returned. And there WERE quite alot of Japs that FOUGHT for the Dutch AGAINST US!
I know this because my Grandpa was part of the "Pemuda" aka Republican. It was us Indonesians against the Dutch, British, Japs AND British Indian troops.
destroyxeverything 2 years ago
so, that's the way Japanese soldier lived in Indonesia...
well, i guess Indonesia will forget the past 45' era, under the occupation. Now I look that Indonesians and Japanese deeply involved in many agreement and also both of em' shares many cultural identities as Batik and Tempe reach Japan, so does the Manga and Japanese culture reach the deep of Indonesian people.
VladiSSius 2 years ago
he deserved this medal Dai nippon gave us freedom
Dai Nippon gave us an army they gave us
indipendence from Colonial terror
Sungkawa 2 years ago 4
No,they gave you a military and support but the indipendence:also called merdeka,is yours.
They just helped you.
Honor to freedom of Asia!
deathstrike44 2 years ago
ofcourse !
we fought our selfs my uncle was 16 when he joined the
Heiho army we fought and died for our joined ideals
in the end General Immamura kept his promise and granted us total independence immamura gave us his arms and support and ordered us to continue untill Merdeka
Sungkawa 2 years ago
You have a good uncle with proud,and great leader from Japan.
We should follow their example.
In Japan,most children missunderstand glories of their ancestor.
Death of history means being forgotten by their successors. This is terrible.
deathstrike44 2 years ago
But we didn't lost it perfectly,still a little hope there.
We must change,wrong educations created by American,economical systems,original cultures and so on.
Honor to all soldiers who died for their proud,all patriots fighting for their nation,and you.
Salute ∠(ω･´)
deathstrike44 2 years ago
Wright!
The yankees ought to respect other nations but they dont
infact the yankees provocet WW2 a litle known fact is that they atacked a Japanese bace 2weeks before pearl harbour and Pearl was realiation ,
what Japanese did was there duty to there emperor
and to truly liberate Asia people seem to forget that fact
Sungkawa 2 years ago 3
i agree !
thats why in Indonesia we hold history dear
Sungkawa 2 years ago 3
かつて日本人は自己犠牲の精神があった。 それが武士道です。 欧米列強に対抗し、確固たる意思で歴史を刻んだ日本の偉大な先人達に感謝と尊敬の念を表さずにはいられません。
harimaujepang 2 years ago 4
東南アジアの捕虜監視部隊は別名朝鮮人部隊。こいつらが拷問をやったせいで、日本までが悪評を被った。
戦後は自称連合国。そしてドル欲しさにベトナム人を大量虐殺。今も反省なし。
こいつら朝鮮人が被害者を自称して、「戦前、日本軍から虐殺された」とか嘘を世界に吐き散らしている。卑劣な嘘つきめ。
zousandazou 2 years ago 6
Just to clarify the situation for some deluded bafoons, I got to point out that those Japanese soldiers have been decorated BY THE INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT ever since their independence, because they took part in the Indonesian civil war AFTER the WW2 when the greedy Dutch came back to RE-COLONISE it. So, they have been receiving pension for decades from the Indonesian government, and it's INDONESIANS who are calling them heroes, not the Japanese in Japan.
mclizyk2 2 years ago
I know why Indonesia become independent. Because Indonesian hoped it.
But it's true Japanese related independence as military adviser.
Japanese solders who remained Indonesia still Japanese in 1945. And Japanese goverment gave them medal this year. But I think it's too late.
ggdango 2 years ago
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In Indonesia we already honor them as independence war hero. This old soldiers deserve great respect from us Indonesian. There's many sides to view the same event of the history. Japanese invasion on Asia was not a picnic, its horrid, violent and full of atrocities. But some of the Japanese soldier emerged from defeat to victory. From the fall of Japanese Empire to the victory of Indonesian Independence. Refused to go back and surrender, but continue to fight. I think they're the true soldier.
gunjakarta 2 years ago
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gunjakarta 2 years ago
お気の毒なことです。
日本に簡単には帰ることができなかったんですね。でも、インドネシアの独立はとてもよい事でしたね。みなさんが幸せで暮らすことを望みます。
LOTUSx123 2 years ago 3
みなさんが幸せで暮らすこと を望みます。 ×
みなさんが幸せに暮らすこと を望みます。 ○ ＾＾
LOTUSx123 は日本人じゃないね。
大体、残留日本人兵士のリーダーが朝鮮人だなんて誰も信じないでしょうね。（笑）
ggdango 2 years ago 2
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Any war campaign has its good and bad. I'm sure Japanese in World War done good as well as bad. But this video is wrong because it is trying to pertray legitimacy of the whole campaign. In nations where much was expected in national earnings, Japanese did the most bad then good.
hyubgaek 3 years ago
If ur saying we are such a defenless nation back in 1945 its because those stupid dutchies troop were being so GodDamn WuzzBags then i would say Hell Yeah..but we did Kicked ur Grandpa caucasian ass back to where ever he came from..LOL..And for that i thank the Japs despite some of those heart breaking moments..
walkingwithpaul 3 years ago 2
I Think being in Japs occupation for only 3,5 year..has thought we Indonesians much more valuable lessons than during the Dutch colonial occupation for 350 years. and that is How to Build an Army from a scratch..I think Japs soldiers are more tougher than those pussies Dutchies,,Fuckin Cock Sucking Pirates..ahahahhaha..imagine..Dutchies been Beaten up by Hitler in Europe and Japs in Asia..
walkingwithpaul 3 years ago
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And Indonesians are real tough, invading defenseless nations, raping and terrorizing local civilians. That's basically all you learned from the Japanese during those 3.5 years.
somethingboring 3 years ago
The Netherlands is a really bad country.
In the Netherlands, there are only feelings mortifying to be going to be driven out to a Japanese army in two weeks.
Caucasian defeated at nonwhite races. It is shameful.
Did you forget the history of enjoying cutting Indonesian people's hands and feet?
Japan educated the very gentleman and equally.
As a result, we succeeded in stepping and crushing the Netherlands.
cuteameri 2 years ago 4
In Indonesia people are stupid enough to be proud of an independence war in which they didn't win a single battle.
Indonesians are stupid enough to think the Japanese were their friends.
Indonesians are destroying the Papuan and Moluccan cultures, it is shameful.
Japan came in, beat a couple of badly armed armies and though itself invincible, then got crushed by the Americans.
As a result, we fought and beat you again, only to have the UN make us stop the war.
somethingboring 2 years ago
Indonesia became independent. It is in Japan that gave this chance.
And, a mind independent of us made them become independent.
It might be true that Japan changed the flow of the world.
Japan led victory to Asia though it lost a war.
On the other hand, America and European countries lost a lot of colonies.
It is thought that a true winner of WW2 is communism power.
It is thought that your enemy was not Japan.
cuteameri 2 years ago 3
Indonesia became Independent, it is the United Nations that gave this chance.
The US didn't have any colonies to begin with, it was the US which wanted Europe to get rid of it's colonies.
The true victor of ww2 was communism along with democracy.
Japan was not our enemy? Oh, sorry, guess we mistook their violent unprovoked aggression against it's neighbouring countries as violent unprovoked aggression against it's neighbouring countries.
somethingboring 2 years ago
Hey Dutch guy, think about why the UN made Netherland stop the war? Because you were trying re colonize Indonesia and suck up money from the people there. No excuse to the Japanese for the bad acts in the wartime. But your country is not as clean as you think it is.
battennagasaki 2 years ago 7
@battennagasaki
You never read the UN dossier? The Dutch first came tho bring order into chaos, there was an anarchy going on and thousands people died. If you have a source that proves that national propganda of yours i would like to read it. That fairytale about sucking money from the Indonesians is so out of date propaganda, after 70 years i hope you people see that it's just a bunch of bullshit, ther is no source who proves that, it's just blind hate by people from today.
RogerNetherlands 2 months ago
somethingboring
Hellow! How are you?
Could you tell me how do you think this comment from Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies B.C. de Jonge (1931-36)?
"we have ruled here for 300 years with the whip and the club, and we shall still be doing it for another 300 years."
ggdango 2 years ago 3
ggdango
I'm fine, thanks.
What I think of that statement? It's bad judgement on his part.
somethingboring 2 years ago
somethingboring
Thank you very much quickly answer.
Are you waiting in the front of PC always?
>It's bad judgement on his part.
Your image of Japanese also, and that's exaggerated like Chienes and Korean propaganda.
This Video show the life of Mr. Fujikawa, he was Japanese soldier and Indonesian veteran. After WW2 he joined Indonesan Independence war. Probably after Independence war, he became Indonesian soldier or officer.
Did he do bad thing in Indonesia?
ggdango 2 years ago
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somethingboring 2 years ago
Sorry! Not Mr. Fujikawa, Mr.Fujiyama is true.
ggdango 2 years ago
gw kagak ngerti bahasanya...tp kayaknya bapak ini mantan tentara jepang yang berjasa buat negara gw... so, gw salut dan respect sama nih aki-aki..
butjex 3 years ago
does this mean i fukn stink ?
no so gtfo
djz 3 years ago
you dont get it right
i talk about the Japs of that time,
now cool down savage
urbmeister 3 years ago
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I am Dutch Indonesian
born in Holland in the 60's
i never will understand that place
its a big Mystery to me
but the outcome
is disturbing
i heard wonderfull stories
until the Japs came
these stinking bastards
urbmeister 3 years ago
Fuck you, i am dutch indonesian and JAPANESE
they fucking gave us independence, so get fucked cunt
djz 3 years ago
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the Japs were wrong
they told that
they payed for it
so these are stinking bastards
otherwise they never payed for their error
urbmeister 3 years ago
gtfo
djz 3 years ago
His decision to desert the Japanese Army was motivated by a mix of reasons, both practical and sentimental. He had been accidentally left behind when his unit shifted base. But he was also resentful at the way he had been treated in the wartime army, had an ill-defined sense that he could have a better life in the tropics and was inspired by Indonesia's burgeoning nationalist movement.
syihab45 3 years ago
When the war ended, Hideo Fujiyama had to choose where his true loyalties lay. He decided not to return to Japan, but to stay in Indonesia, a country he barely knew.
syihab45 3 years ago
藤山さんは去年亡くなりました、哀悼の意を表して敬礼！
shinanomori 3 years ago 17
INDONESIA BANZAI!!!!!!!!!
A stupid Dutchman
kojis4792 3 years ago
これだけははっきりと言える。
今の日本人よりも、先の大戦で戦われた頃の日本人の方がはるかに逞しく、志も高かったように思える。
まあ、これは自分を含めた現代人への戒めだけど・・・
一番違うのは目の輝きが当時の人と現代人とではまるで違う。特に子供の
shikishima2 3 years ago 2
we are indonesian, gud people, we try to forgive dutch and japan, all just for peace and live happy together...
buddbuddbidup 3 years ago 11
Wow this is 2007 video, still fresh!!
densscessario 3 years ago
good video!
I think as Japanese one.
They are heroes!
mitinasi 3 years ago 4
I agree....
and fuckin with the dutch apes ppl..
Asgar170382 3 years ago 2
I actuelly think that the Japs were ALOT more worser than the dutch. the dutch used indonesia as a ''normal'' colony because it was normal for ever european country to have a colony. but the japanise used indonesia as a murdercamp
Ricardothe1337 3 years ago
Yes, the Dutch helped Indonesia with industralization, but the Indonesians were discriminated verry often by the Dutch. They weren't allowed to go to theatres and cafees and stuff like that because for the Dutch, Indonesians were equal to dogs. So when Japan came to Indonesia, the people thought that they were free now. Unfortunetly Japan was a imperial power for the first time and they threated the people not friendly. But from a bigger picture Japan helped Indonesia with its independence.
IrwanKamiKazi 3 years ago 3
ye and that about discrimination was wrong from the dutch. it's a shame. but hoped that the dutch could do someting back to make the relation between the indonesians and dutch better
Ricardothe1337 3 years ago
Korean decendent, Last name "Kim- 金" Man! He is a Korean who was forced to join the imperial army. Japs killed the whole family who refused to join. he might be one of them.
yakiabara 3 years ago
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Man! Japs never stop projecting themeselves as the good people. Fuuck that!. The sky knows, the ground knows, and whole countries know Japs brutally killed, raped Asians except inocent japs. Japs does not care how much it cost them to change their image. They buy everything with money, moeny talks.
yakiabara 3 years ago
Hellow Korean racist !
You mean Asia is just China and Korea?
So did Korean do anything in Vietnum during Vietnam War?
Shame on you!
ggdango 2 years ago
Don't blame the people for the sovereign's fault.
Some of the japanese people are forced to join the imperial army back in those days.They didn't want to join an invasion in the name of imperialism.
And when they retreated back in 1945,there could be some Japanese soldiers who thought that they should pay for what they did, although forced by their government,by contributing in Indonesia's independence.
While others probably just found a new patriotism in Indonesia.
Either ways,i thank'em.
Arragillium88 4 years ago 2
Well Actually The Japs Did Push the dutch away and help us at the first, but I dunno if you know anything about Romusha back then. Anyway is just history..
You guys are welcome here, and I think Me myself should watch this video fully before makin any comment.
Btw, lol "selamat siang" = "Konichiwa". This video is taken in Indonesia. take a look at the House Design.........
densscessario 3 years ago
極限状態においてこそ男の真価が問われる。
彼らは黄金色に輝いて見える。
shinanomori 4 years ago 2
So... these so called 2000 Japanese soldiers who helped the "Indonesians" in their struggle for independence make up for the 4.000.000 Indonesians an 30.000 Indo's and Dutch who where murdered by the Japanese during the occupation?
Well if that's the price, remind me never tos ask a Japanese for any help...
roolee76 4 years ago
What makes you say that? This vid issues ONE Japanese soldier who helped Indonesia's independence.
AZNShogun 4 years ago
This vid is a horrific ugly insult
to one million Indonesian Romushas
who died in Jap WW2 slave labour camps.
19au35 4 years ago
dude youre right! im an indonesian myself.
antihero58 4 years ago
To: cincerelee
Mister moral moron,
your command of factual history
is below standard.
Upgrade your lacking knowledge
and shed your bias.
Only then can you refrain from your
error to compare the incomparable.
19au35 4 years ago
to: cincerelee
Mister moral moron Lee,
you can not read,
you only spittle
your bye-case bias.
This vid is unsulting for millions
of the WW2 Jap victims of SE Asia.
19au35 4 years ago
No do matter of your criticism of me. However, If you say "ugly" to the soldiers who fought for independence of their country, Here is really "ugly" place to you.
Go to nobel place(where you think so). Don't come to "ugly" place anymore.
P.S...
After all, there was no progress in this discussion. I regret it very much.
I -was not able to say logically- have some responsibility, too.
I want the peoples in INDONESIA, JAPAN, & THE NETHERLANDS to talk about this problem more and more.
sincerelee 4 years ago
Finally, this is about your personal attitude.
If you think of the people in Indonesia and the Orient as a partner to the future, not a slave or monkey, you should accept the various opinion a little more.
The reason is that, Netherlands became a
country that cannot do anything alone. It differs from old times.
sincerelee 4 years ago
Japan apologized for the past, many times.
There is many points that must be evaluated, like the video, too. However, it is certainly bad to have caused the war. Therefore, it apologized many times.
Nobody admires for the war, also in Indonesia. However, I think that it evaluates the points that should be evaluated, and has raised the order-MEDAL OF HERO.
Has the Netherlands apologized to Indonesia once?
sincerelee 4 years ago
OK,"Ugly"...ok, if you say so.
Then, Don't come to "ugly" place anymore. Noble Dutch.
In the time INDONESIA was ruled by the Netherlands, The average age of the people in INDONESIA was 35.
You can say it "misdeed". Great!
What a horrible misdeed.
sincerelee 4 years ago
19au35 4 years ago
There is a person agree to, and there is an opposed to my opinion. By the politic of education, by the situation, & by the
standpoint. I want to understand it.
I want to see "both sides" of thing (read "about this video" above).
By this method, A past war cannot be erased. However, the future will be able to be changed.
Thankyou. & good luck.
P.S.
TO 19au35
Are you really Dutch? I think that...
I'm speaking with the South Korean
(Oh, There is no need to reply).
sincerelee 4 years ago
However, I noticed soon. The best method for put out the war from this world is that: the esteem of other party's opinion by the discussion. "Esteem" is not the meaning of "agree" or "be unformed", but making an "effort to understand".
sincerelee 4 years ago
& I found that, The discussion was general in Japan. About war, history, culture, even if, about the religion.
At first, I also thought that "They performing good man to run away from responsibility", because of anti-JAPAN education I had been received in KOREA
sincerelee 4 years ago
I don't know well why he do not answer to my question:[about crime of NETHERLAND in INDONESIA].
In KOREA, Only an uniform-opinion is admitted. It was unpleasant to me. So I came to be interested to NET(WEB) of JAPAN.
sincerelee 4 years ago
to: cincerelee
Continue to play the moral knight,
continue to utter your hollow plight.
Your perception of SE Asia's WW2 history
is to a large degree based on false earlier fabricated facts to suit your 'morality'.
Continue your moral self-satisfaction.
I can only laugh away your poor fact showing.
Jap WW2 SE Asia atrocities were uprecedented,
other nations were no match to that at all.
19au35 4 years ago
&, believe it or not, I'm KOREAN. not JAPANESE.
sincerelee 4 years ago
want to say is to want you to see both sides of the history. I want you to admit responsible also for you though there is no nature to admire for the war.
sincerelee 4 years ago
Why INDONESIA government gave "MEDAL OF HERO" to japanese soldier at their independence day?
Why they don't say thank to your country?
sincerelee 4 years ago
....Then, how about the crime of NETHERLAND in INDONESIA?
sincerelee 4 years ago
19au35 4 years ago
TO 19au35
Please, Discuss. Don't fight.
He has his opinion(see his video).
Let's esteem other party's opinion.
Even if it is different from yours
(It is not meant to "agree"-so we need to discuss).
Don't use so vulgar word (How do you know the status of his brain?).
Surely, I esteem your opinion about racism.
Let's discuss!
sincerelee 4 years ago
to kokokoara:
Play the race card, nitwit.
WW2 Nips were more racist
than any other SE Asian community.
Better know your WW2 racist atrocities.
But you do not want to know.
Continue in ignorance to
sooth your racially frustrated brain.
19au35 4 years ago
They can freely call them a hero.
I do not understand whether they are heroes.
There was no war if there was at least no white.
It is true.
kokokoara 4 years ago 2
The weakness of many present-day Japanese
is that they glorify their past WW2 history.
A history filled with horrific war crimes.
They never had objective history books and
other media info on their Nippon atrocities.
Poor ignorant present-day Japan glorifiers.
Apologize officially and pay your war debt.
Only then will your burden fall and shall you breathe freely in this world.
19au35 4 years ago
(* ) I never mind if you like or hate this information(this movie). agree or disagree, it is your opinion. i never mind it.
but i think, it's better for you & youtube users, we should not use a vulgar word.
A person all over the world is looking your comment. It represents the educational level of you, your parents, and your country.
Thankyou.
sincerelee 4 years ago
ffffffuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkk yooooouuuuu japan fucking asshole you mother fucker
FGJBFRE 4 years ago
i hate japanese soldier in ww2 they kill the dutch,indonesian,philiphines many of my father's friend was in the japanese camp and the japanese bomed pearl harbor
FGJBFRE 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Japanese soldiers killed babies and raped women in WW2!
cadillacad 4 years ago
as a human...i am proud of them...there are many different between japanese as a soldier and as a man..in this case, they are a man..
there is no right or wrong on this side...
pambudi1977 4 years ago 2
my father experieced WW2in Indonesia, but he didn't hate the Japanese.
shaolinwizard 4 years ago 2
I'm very proud that the Japanese helped Indonesians get independent from the imperial Dutch.
We attacked and expeled eveil Dutch which had exploited Indonesia for as many as 350 years.
TokyoModern 4 years ago 2
Hey you sorry ass jap it's a shame that you are not sorry and you are proud what your country has done to netherlands and indonesia go fuck yourself asshole
FGJBFRE 4 years ago
The Japanese expelled the Dutch colonists from Indonesia and helped the Indonesian get independent.
TokyoModern 4 years ago 2