Every type of ukemi has its own place, and no single ukemi works for every situation, every nage-uke combination, or every training goal. If you don't trust your nage, or there is a chance your nage will fall on you, you should never practice soft-fall breakfalls or surrender completely.
Thanks for your comments! judo-style, and feet-on-the-ground stable resistance are both valid options that we also practice (and for some ukes, the only version they should practice). In this version, if you keep the head tucked, it will convert into a forward roll if there is too much forward energy. The hand that is free stays in front of the shoulder - judo facefall style. One of the advantages of this method is that nage can practice a "slam" ikkyu with no resistance from uke.
I always thought of falling as an opportunity to receive momentum from the Nage and transfer it to the ground. What I see you doing seems skillful, and yet, I don't agree that breaking my connection with the ground by lifting both feet off the ground is wise for my task. I leave myself very vulnerable to unexpected changes in the angles at play. I prefer to have my feet (at least one if not two) on the ground and utilize the large muscles in the hips and shoulders to receive the attack.
IMHO the sort of feather ukemi you're aiming for can be better practiced by doing the forward ukemi of judo, the one where you land on your front. starting from on the knees, and have your hands out in front, slapping the mat. progress to standing with very wide feet. the idea is for the whole of your body to take the impact, so that the force of landing is evenly distributed... it's better not to fall from a height onto any one part. from a lower height, yes..this can be done.
IMHO the sort of feather ukemi you're aiming for can be better practiced by doing the forward ukemi of judo, the one where you land on your front. starting from on the knees, and have your hands out in front, slapping the mat. progress to standing with very wide feet. the idea is for the whole of your body to take the impact, so that the force of landing is evenly distributed... it's better not to fall from a height onto any one part. from a lower height, yes..this can be done.
I have to say, based on 30 years of doing aiki, that this looks a bit dangerous, particularly if used with the sort of ikkyo you're showing.. the neck and the back are vulnerable as you well point out. but also, the shoulder girdle of the outer shoulder that lands on the mat is at risk from excessive angular compression. having said that IMHO if the technique is done well, this sort of ukemi should come natural.. it shouldn't need to be done from a great height.
I have to say, based on 30 years of doing aiki, that this looks a bit dangerous, particularly if used with the sort of ikkyo you're showing.. the neck and the back are vulnerable as you well point out. but also, the shoulder girdle of the outer shoulder that lands on the mat is at risk from excessive angular compression. having said that IMHO if the technique is done well, this sort of ukemi should come natural.. it shouldn't need to be done from a great height.
Every type of ukemi has its own place, and no single ukemi works for every situation, every nage-uke combination, or every training goal. If you don't trust your nage, or there is a chance your nage will fall on you, you should never practice soft-fall breakfalls or surrender completely.
usfaikido 4 months ago
Thanks for your comments! judo-style, and feet-on-the-ground stable resistance are both valid options that we also practice (and for some ukes, the only version they should practice). In this version, if you keep the head tucked, it will convert into a forward roll if there is too much forward energy. The hand that is free stays in front of the shoulder - judo facefall style. One of the advantages of this method is that nage can practice a "slam" ikkyu with no resistance from uke.
usfaikido 4 months ago
I always thought of falling as an opportunity to receive momentum from the Nage and transfer it to the ground. What I see you doing seems skillful, and yet, I don't agree that breaking my connection with the ground by lifting both feet off the ground is wise for my task. I leave myself very vulnerable to unexpected changes in the angles at play. I prefer to have my feet (at least one if not two) on the ground and utilize the large muscles in the hips and shoulders to receive the attack.
PiedPiper97601 4 months ago
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IMHO the sort of feather ukemi you're aiming for can be better practiced by doing the forward ukemi of judo, the one where you land on your front. starting from on the knees, and have your hands out in front, slapping the mat. progress to standing with very wide feet. the idea is for the whole of your body to take the impact, so that the force of landing is evenly distributed... it's better not to fall from a height onto any one part. from a lower height, yes..this can be done.
kingofaikido 5 months ago
IMHO the sort of feather ukemi you're aiming for can be better practiced by doing the forward ukemi of judo, the one where you land on your front. starting from on the knees, and have your hands out in front, slapping the mat. progress to standing with very wide feet. the idea is for the whole of your body to take the impact, so that the force of landing is evenly distributed... it's better not to fall from a height onto any one part. from a lower height, yes..this can be done.
kingofaikido 5 months ago
I have to say, based on 30 years of doing aiki, that this looks a bit dangerous, particularly if used with the sort of ikkyo you're showing.. the neck and the back are vulnerable as you well point out. but also, the shoulder girdle of the outer shoulder that lands on the mat is at risk from excessive angular compression. having said that IMHO if the technique is done well, this sort of ukemi should come natural.. it shouldn't need to be done from a great height.
kingofaikido 5 months ago
I have to say, based on 30 years of doing aiki, that this looks a bit dangerous, particularly if used with the sort of ikkyo you're showing.. the neck and the back are vulnerable as you well point out. but also, the shoulder girdle of the outer shoulder that lands on the mat is at risk from excessive angular compression. having said that IMHO if the technique is done well, this sort of ukemi should come natural.. it shouldn't need to be done from a great height.
kingofaikido 5 months ago
Excelente!!!
jvmoreno21 1 year ago
ma funziona per la strada??::::
chuck71100 2 years ago
You guys rule! Thank you so much for such simplified and safe methods of improving ukemi! See you at camp!
djresonance 2 years ago