очень странное видео. армяни и евреи учат нас что национальность не имеет значемие. при этом обе ети нации как сектанти. у армян в лексиконе "одолжи" такое слово вобще нету и они от другого по национальности человека ничего не купят.
u see it always depends.... for example armenians call themselves haes (sons of haos). however Haos was first mentioned in Georgian chronicles written by leonti Mroveli (who lived in modern day bzipi,abkhazia btw). I mostly specialize in Abkhazian history and origins and therefore know little about more deep souther caucasus. :)
@losdruid yes very interesting, thank you. Since I come from Abkhazia (Sukhumi) I always like to hear about that area as well :p Man I miss that city. My best memories are from there :) It’s a magical place no doubt.
@PeopleOfAr yeah city is magical ofcause. Sukhumi (tskhumi) in Georgian, svan, language means horne beam tree :) thats how the city was named.... unfortunatelly, from what I have heard lately, the city is complitely ruined and no one bothers to rebuilt even tiny part of it. only 2 hotels work in sukhum nowdays and every single building has a bullet whole in it :( Its ok, when Georgians return we will rebuild it to tribute its prior glory.
its said in any encyclopedia lol. just google colchian tribes and you will see that Tiber/tubal/tuber was one of many colchian tribes. others were moschi, talibs, Misimians/soanes, Macrones, laz, abshile, henochi, sanige, abazk, Geloni, mossynoechi and so on. As for Somekhi.... i am not sure why we call you that but it has something to do with the Meskhetians. theory has it that Georgians identified armenians as relatives of one of Georgian tribe, Meskhi(Moschi)
"Do Georgians like Armenians?" I don't know. Do Armenians like Georgians? YES. I am Armenian, come from a Armenian family, and NEVER have I EVER heard one bad thing about Georgians.
If it makes you feel better to know, when ever Georgia comes on Eurovision we all raise up the volume and get cheer. hahaha.
грузия обижена на армению изза политических взлгядов армении... давайте подумаем а что армения может зделать? против россии?? к сожелению так сложилось что политические взгляды у Армении и Грузии разные но что будет делать если Россия отвернется... подумаем вместе ) справа Азеры с лева Турки ... что они смогут зделать? ОТКРОЙТЕ КНИГУ ! там как Грузия сложилась так сразу они воевали и турками и персами и т.д... а это мы забыли да? теперь они наши братья?
Armenia ne bratskii narod,bratskii narod nazivaetsya kogda v trudnie minuti vmeste stoboi stoit a eti sosedi tolko i otlichie mejdu nami eto to chto nasha dver otkrito dlya vsei nacii ne imeet znachenie tam ruskii budet, azerbaijanec amerikanec ili afrikanec , a v Armenii tolko armeicii , chestno govarya ne lubim armiancev prosto u nas v krovi pomagat ludyam i pomagaem , i eshe dlya tupix obistnyau "ne lubim ne znachet chto nenavidim", u nix svoi minusi v otnoshenii k nam,
we dont like armenians just becouse they dont like us and they are jelouse of everything we have, if georgian didnt save armenia many times from the turks, armenia shouldnt be here now
net bolshe bratskix narodov tshem armiani i gruzini! nashi predkie bili odni! mi proisxodim drug-ot-druga! eta spetsialno delaetsia shtob mi drug-druga ne navideli! armiani, vije znaete shto mi vas uvajaem, a ploxie ludi vezde i u vas i u nas... ne nado slushat nekavo! glavnoe drujit i lubit drug-druga!
u nas ne ploxie otnosheniia, v gruzii ochen mnogo armian, sredi nix u menia mnogo druzei. ia viros s armianami iz kapana i giumri. oni mne kak bratia. ploxie armiane tolko armiane iz bataliona bagramiana, oni v abxazii prodalis rossii i voevali protiv gruzin.izmena kavkazu-eto ochen bolshoi grex!!
Да, дорогой. Грузины Армян любят ! И я не только про себя говорю, поверь, в Армянах Грузины видят САМЫХ близких и по духу, и по культуре. Господь дал нам одну Веру, и невероятное тепло в сердце. Не давай никому это разорвать, как я это делаю многие годы.
ahahha kak mne smeshno bilo chetat tvou Rusofobiu. Xorosho nauchili teba eti Yamki. Ti toze verish v American Dream da? A kak nashot Axis of evil ili Rogue states? hahahah Kak garasho vas tam umeut mazgi chistit. Wi ne dolzni gorditsa tem shto drugie strani vlazivaut v Ameriku, vi dolzni boyatsa shto Amerika kuplina drugimi stranami. I eto esho posmotrem skolko viderzetsa. A nashot mirovoi sprovedlivosti to pazalusta ne nado zdes smeshit ludei vit mi vse ni dibili.
Kakoe sprovedlivost iz Ameriki vishlo? Eto tu demokratiu kotorie ani Iraku i Afganu prinesli, vi eto v Gruzie xotite? Da? Odna iz samix molodix stran mira i uze samoya agresivnaya. Posmotri skolko tratet na voenuyu industriu... Da kavo vi durite? Amerika ne imeit pravo daze na Gitlera paltsami tikat, patomushto Amerikanski palets krovinoi. Pochemu dumaesh Ameriku vse nenavidat? Ili was tam do sexpor uchat shto Amerika spasatel mira? Hehehehhe
Ja tebe odnu vesh skazu patom sam reshai kto bolshe zlo. Bagatstvo bez platno ne proxidet. Za eto nado vorovat i otnemat i obmanivat i ubivat. Esli ti derektor to ktoto drugoi rabochi, esli ti imeesh to ktoto drugoi ne imeet. A kakaya strana bolshe vsex imeet? Vot ta strana bolshe vsex i voruet, obmanivaet, otnemaet i ubevaet.
A vi znaete chto russia xranit 80% svoego kapitala v gasydarstvenix akciax usa.
i chto usa bolshe vsego tratit na blagotvoritelnost,a russia krome svoego dejurnovo askala i goloi jopi ne nachto negorazda.
mogu saglositsa s polojeniem Abxazi i nevkoem sluchai ne osujdau"nelza rugat pakrovitelei",russia dla Abxazi edinstveni luchik sveta,kak dla pervobitnovogo cheloveka agon,daje ne delo v mandarinax ili otsutstvie svoix pasportov ,deneg i pensi.Abxazi sostavlali1/3 chast naselenia
Esli xotite znat(imeet prava usa vmeshivatsa vo vse?) jestko otvechau-ne tolko imeet ,no i obazana.
obazana tak kak kormit ves mir,vse v ocheredi s pratanutoi rukoi.v 90-e golodnaya russia tolko i nepodoxla blagodora usa.Y mena sosedi usinovili 4 ruskix detei,kajdi rebenok obxoditsa 40.000$.gasudarstva poluligalno pradaet detei,chtob na baksi potom kalashi strugat.A te kto nenovidit usa tot v sladkix snax ee vidit,i baksi xranat pod podushkoi.a kto videl ochereda v pasolstvox???
:) voobshem moe soprotevlenie bit vtanutim v etu avanturu okazalos bezuspeshnim:)
Nexochu perebirat ves xlam istorii,tembole vse mi znaem kak bili obrazovani bratskie respubliki...
No nastolko kristalnoi i bezuprechnoi istori kak y Gruzi,malo kto mojet poxvastatsa.Gruzia nekogda nebila zavaevatelem.po istecheni obstayatelstv,mne prixodilos chasto menat mesto jitelstvo i finalom maego marafona stalo Usa.strana stavshaya rodinoi moim detam,strana davshaya mne za 11 let stolko,skolko i nemchtal
koneshno i America zlo, toje imperia no bolee tsivilizovanaia, tak shto obo zlo, no Kreml vapshe satana, ubiitsa kavkaztsev, tselix narodov vapshe istremili ruskie, kak naprimer shapsugh, jikov i drugix, polovinu chechni, ingushov, i ne ostonovlivaiutsa, rosiia obezatelno rozvaletsa, mojet i Amerika no pozje, no glavnoe shto bez rosii kavkaz budet protsvetat, i sovetuiu vam ne verit ruskim kanalom, vi ne znaete kakuiu chuj oni govoriat, prosto eto tak vse ne obesnit tut!
Ya somnevaus. Amerika sechas bolshe ubivaet. Amerika svoix sosed yuznuju ameriku terroriziruet. Mexico (zapatistas), Bolivia (Morales), Venezuela (Chaves), Slavador, Columbia (FARC) Cuba i tak dalie. Amerika vsegda imela problemu na uge a teper svoi nos suyot v kavkaz i delaet tak shtobi Russia toze takuju ze problemu imela. A russia sechas reshila esli vi knam lezite to mi k vam. I teper bolshe pomagaet uznoi amerike.
No ti prav dva zla, prosto zalko shto nam nado viberat mezdu dva zla. No mi kavkaztsi peshki zdes vso rech idot mezdu etim zlom. Eto ixena voina a nas ispolzujut. No mne ne ponjatno pochemu Gruzia ne puskajut Abxazie svobodu? Vit narod xochet.
a to shto ia pishu latinskimi bukvami kakoe eto imeet znachenie? vopshem tut sporit pro takix veshax da eshe pro lingvisticheskuiu prenodlejnost eto ne imeet smisla, prosto jelaiu shtob ves kavkaz jil vmeste bratski i mirno i bez rosii, a rosiia obezatelno rozvaletsa, podojdem eshe neskolko let i sam uvidesh, a u nas budet mir i protsvetanie!
ja mnogo pro Abxaziu ne budu govorit xot i eto moja rodina ja Armenin i znaju shto Gruzini budut venit shto mi vmeshevaimsa. Tak shto svoim deistviem ja ne gochi vrazdu mezdu arman i gruzin seit. No ja skazu pro russiu. Ja shetau eto bolshaja oshibka shto vi tak vrazdebno pro svoix vechnix sosed govorite. Da ja saglasen kremlin ni samuju lutsheu politiki vedot nashot kavkaza. No mne ix ochen ponatno. Eto problema ne kavkaza eto problema vsego bivshevo sovetskovo sojuza.
On razvalilsa i vse venat russiu.Kyrgyzstan Ukraina balticheskie strani Gruzia i tak dalie. Vse venat Russiu, no vit sovetski sojuz bil nash vsex. On razvalilsa ni iza Russii a iza Zapoda. Tot sami zapod katori sechas vmeshivaetsa v nashi dela. Kto dal oruzeja Gruzii? Kto dal zadanie? Ni Bush? Eto ze jasno v chom zdes delo. Kavkaz eto tolko peshki zdes rech edot o novom mirovom poradke kak Saakashvili sam govoril po CNN.
A esli chesno skazat Abkhazi ne xotat v Gruzinski sostav. I Ossetini ne xotat. Zdes delo ne v Russii a v zapode. Ja lichno ne protev Russii. Ja protev vsex kto pozabili shto mi bratja bili. Eto kosaetsa Skinxedov I takix gondonov kotorie zabili shto mi vmeste natsistof razbili. I mne ne nravitsa shto Russia ochen agresivno otnosetsa k kavkazu. Nado bolshe deplomaticheski postupat. No shtobi skazat shto Russia eto nash vrag ja ne skazu.
Eto Amerika pirvei razvalitsa , odna iz molodeishix stran mira I uze skolko voin zateila. Eto dolgo ne budet prodolzatsa. Ves mir nenovidet Ameriu. Daze v Evrope. Million ludei ubili uze v Irake. Kto zdes zlo? Russia ili Amerka?
tex osetinskix omonovtsev kotorie sami nachali streliat pervimi v gruzinskix politseiskix i na mirnix selax i iz za etogo ix nashie vsex unichtojeli, netu bolshe osetinskogo omona, a Tsxinval bil vapshe evakuirovan i mirnix jitelei poterii tam bilo 21 chelovek,i eto genotsid a to shto ruskie unichtojili 30% chechenskogo naselenie,bolee 250 000 mirnix jitelei eto ne genotsid da?nu u vas tam naverno tolko ruskie teliki pokazivaiut i vi tolko i slishite kremlevskuiu propagandu i ne znaete mnogo
moya malovajnaya replika neimeet nekakovo otnashenia k vashei besede(PeopleOfAR i zviadan) Prosto xochu napomnit "riba gniet s golovi" Mejdu nami bil ploxoi referi.mesto togo chtob raznemat,nas stravlivali
Zasheshaya svoi doma,takje bili prisvoini nezakono chujie,ne bes pomoshi tex"mirotvorcev"katorie kuda bolee strashnei banditov na tankax. xochu napomnit,chto te "miloserdnie"giroi katorie zasheshaut ves kavkaz ot gruzin y seba narodine xyarat i arman i abxaz i osetin.........................
I vsem nam svoistveno gorditsa svoimi kornami,xot paroi drugie ispitivaut antipatiu k toi ili inoi naci.Postaraus ne rozvodit dimagogiu i virazetsa kak mjno bezbolezneno dla drugix,No ya (prajivshi kakoe to vrema v russi) vazmushaus do bezobrazia,kak y naroda nasravshix na svoi cenasti i kulturu,xvataet naglosti eshe pizdet na drugix.dinamichnost penkov pod zad,ot vsego celivizovonogo mira,zastavlaut russi srivatsa na malenkix stranax,ustraevay tam balogan.
S ogromni interesom osnakomilsa so stol yarkim viskazivaniem,bolee togo,
bil porojen aratorskimi danimi,v chastnosti deplomati v peremeshku s "yazikom" bolee
dominirueshem v obixodnoi jizne:)
Ya chasto uchavstvoval v podobnix meropriatiax,no stalkivayas s bespredelom toi tupasti,ostavil svoe "xobi" v proshlom.Tak izredka inagda,otchebuchu,kogda uj sovsem nespravlaus s imociami:)
Gruziu ya pokinul eshe v lexie 90-e,no ostalos mnogo teplix vospomenanei.
...svanski iazik ochen sluxom otlichaiutsa ot samogo gruzinskogo no eto odno semia, pedestal odin u nix u vsex, tak shto esli ti odin ili eshe neskolko ludei eto budut otretsat eto nechego ne izmenit, fakt est fakt. a to shto armianski eto indoevropeiski iazik toje ne znachet shto armiane ne kavkaztsi,oni uje tak dolgo tut jivut shto uje smeshilis s kavkazom i prosto iazik ostlsa starii,kak naprimer Finski iazik eto iz Urala edet no oni sami Fini podchti te je samie skandinavtsi,tut mnog sxodstv
Shto ti ne ponemaesh eto to shto Indo-Evropeiski jazik proizoshol v kavkaze. Msto rozdenia etoi grupi v kavkaze ili vokrug ego (Anatolia ili severni kavkaz). Eto uchonie dakazivaut. Gruzinski uchoni daze dakazivaet shto rodina etoi grupi v Armenie. Indo-Evropeiski jazik eto I est kavkazki. A Ibero-kavkazki ne sushestvuet eto pridumal adin Gruzinski uchoni no dakazatelstvo neto. Lingvisti ne preznaut eto kak grupu.
a nashot iazikov povtariau shto, Gruzinski iazik eto iz ibero-kavkazskoi semi,chego ne poniatno,korni chechenskogo, ingushskogo,nekotorix dagistanskix iazikov i takje cherkeskogo odni,u nix odno proisxojdenie i potom prosto rozvevalis otdelna i sformirovalis kak otdelnie iziki,no iz odnoi semi.osobenno vostochno kavkazskie i gruzinski iazik sami rodstvennie drug-drugu,v tom chisle i kroviu.starie slova i korni mnogix slov odni kotorie potom po raznomu razvevalis. daje sam mengrelski i osobeno...
PeopleOfAr - axper i oxota tebe stolko pisat:) Kak deti.
Kakaya raznica yazik, geogrficheskoe polojenie,kto silnei,kto umnei,kto krasivei:) Kajdi ostaetsa pri svoem"samom pravilnom mnenie" Y vsex y nas odna "doroga",a tam budem otvechat ne za nacionalnost,a za pastupki.
da brat ti prav, no eto vso propaganda. Poka mi zivom semei sobludaem est ludi kotorie den i noch rabotaut na tom shtob izmenit mir tak kak im vigodno. Ja zil v Abxazie otlichno s Gruzinami, Armanami, Abkhazami, Grekami, Evreami, Ruskimi i tak dalie no den prishol i tanki po moei ulitse proezali. Strelali v nas na mor porte. Vot togda vso jasno stalo. Poka mi sedim doma zanemaemsa drugimi delami est ludi kotorie ispolzujut nas i manipulirujut tak shtob mi nenavidili drug drugo a oni kaifovali.
a to shto armian nado ubivat ia vapshe i ne upomenal, tak shto nado bilo luchshe viisnet vse i potom svoi otsenki stavit. U menia zdes v Tbilisi 30% iz samix blizkix druzei armiani mestnie, poddelnik u menia armenin po svoim delam i on toje odin iz moix luchshix druzei, i ia ego esli shto ot lubogo gruzina ili drugova zasheshu kak ostolnix moix gruzin budu zasheshat, moi lichni doktor armenin da i eshe i v samoi armenii est druzia, i daje neskolko let nazad daje lubimaia jenshena u menia bila...
a nasha armia tex opolchentsev za nedeliu na svoe mesto postavila a potom uje voshli ruskie i koroche.... sam znaesh, krov lilas dolgo, vot eslibi ne ruskie to togda jilibi vse v edinoi gruzii mirno i po bratski, takje kak vse natsii jivut kak odna semia v Tbilisi i ne bilobi stolko krovi i problem, no kogda rosia rozvaletsa togda i vse uladetsa i v Gruzii vmeste abxazii i osetii, i v chechne i v ingushetii i po vsemu kavkazu budet mir. a mi ne nesem krovi, eto kogda drugaia strana vxodit ....
Armenians, and a Georgian.. some Russians.. feast..? you forgot jewish! bad movie, bad translation. probably another anti-Russian anti-Armenian propaganda film.
Ya uvazaju Gruzin bolshe chem kakovo to drogovo naroda, bolshe chem Ruskix i Grek. Ya viros s Gruzinomi v Suxumi no tot kto ka mne s voinoi idot tot moi vrag i puskai bizit on. A etot film chisti pidaras prastetutka kakoita zdelal. Xuinu pokazivaut ...Gruzin Gruzin ubivaet... eto shto durast gde Gruzin Gruzin ubivaet? Kakoita Gandon pridumal. Ja evo rot ibal. Mozet xvatit xuinoi zanematsa? Ili van Gruzinam nravetsa vinit kavoto krainevo za oshibki vashix fashistof politikof?
A chesno skazat mne poxuya istoricheski kak kavo shetjesh ti. Esli tak govorit to mi vse ne kovkaztsi mi togda vse iz Afriki. Chem ti bolshe kavkazets chem ya? Ti dolshe zevosh na kavkaze ili shto? Skazi mne...? Za to shto vi kopiruite Cerkes patomu bolshe kavkaztsi? Mne poxua kak vi shetaite ya govoru tot kto zivot na kavkaze i po kavkaskim zakonam tot kavkazets. Ya uvazaju vse kavkazkie narodi, no kto na mena napadaet ya ego pizdu kak v sukhumi ya pizdil gruzinskix banditof.
Vo pervix ni kto iz nas Arman v Abkhazie protev Gruzin ne dralsa. Mi dralis tolko shtob zasheshat nashi doma. Vashi banditi napali na nas ne mi na was. Me ne napadali na Tbilisi mi ne dralis protev Gruzinskovo naroda, mi dralis protev banditov katorie napali na nashi doma. Mi poterali vso shto imel iza etoi voini. Ne komu iz nas vigoda ne bila i nekogda ne budet. Tot kto natsianalisticheski krechit tot ne znaet ni xrena. Esli ti poderzivaesh etu agresiu i apladiruesh smerti Arman to ti baran.
slushi ti! ia tebe ne oskorblial, eto ne po kavkazski oskorbliat kogoto tut po internetu, esli shto v lico nado govorit, tak shto ne smei mne govorit shto esli ia poderjivaiu to ili eto togda ia baran, ponial? !!! eslli xochesh idi i v lico govori, no shias ne budu oslojniat tut na You-Tube eti rozgovori kak baba, no nadeius shto ti poemesh shto v etom ti oshibsa! A esli ne ochen iasno to shto ia napisal to konkretnee skaju shto te kto protiv Gruzin voevali, absolutnoe bolshenstvo v grobax lijat
ja ne v chom ne oshibsa i ne kovo ne oskarblal ja skazal ESLI ti ix poderzivaesh, i ja skazu eto mnogo raz eto mojo mnenie. No ja teba ne oskarblal ja shto skazal kasaetsa vsem kto poderzivaut voini. Esli net to eto tebe ni kasaetsa tak shto nechego obizatsa. Podozritelno mne to shto ti podumal shto tebe kasaetsa. Ti dosexpor mne ne skazal shto ti imesh vedu shto te kto protiv Gruzin voevali, absolutnoe bolshenstvo v grobax lijat Shto eto xorosho ili prosto napomnit mene? Ja ne ponal
chego podozritelnogo? ti mne pisal i mne eto skazal shto ia eto esli ia tak dumaiu, tak shto doljen bil snachalo viesnit a potom otsenivat, chego ne ponial? a to shto kto protiv gruzin oriujiem poedet tot i v grobe budet lejat, ia imeiu vvedu narod a ne banditov. a abxazia nasha zemlia i tam abxazskie opolchenie kogda nachinalis poetomu i prishli nashi soldati shtobi naladit tam teritorialnuiu tselosnost, prosto iz za togdashnoi vremeni mnogo band toje poshli tam...
...kak i Tbilisi i nashi tam za svoiu zemliu voevali i iz za togdashnoi xaoticheskoi vremeni tam mnogo raznix vsiakix band sobralis. A vena vsemu etomu ebanni Kreml, kotori prinioes na kavkaze tolko voini i protivostoianie i destabilizatsiu i k neshastiu mnogo preddanix sebe rabov tam nashli na kotorix oni pologaiutsa, no so vremenem rosiiu vitesnem iz kavkaza, vot skoro v Ingushetii nachnutsa eshe protevostaianie, potom v Chechne, v Dagistane da i vmeste s Gruzii shag za shagom osvobodim kavkaz
Shto eto oznochaet osvobodim kavkaz? Eto znachet Ossetiu i Abxaziu zaxvatite? Eto svaboda? Ja Armenin no Abxazia eto moja rodina, ja za drugix Arman ni mogu govorit no mi budem zasheshat nash dom protev luboi agressii. vmeste s Gruzii shag za shagom osvobodim kavkaz Vashi shagi do sexpor krome krovi i boli ne imeut resultat. Shtoza shagi ti xochesh? Bolshe voini? Kak v Tbilisi praznik bil kakda uslishali napadaut na Ossetiu?
...v tvoiu stranu orujiem shtob otniat u tebia zemli togda i prexoditsa vstrechat mechom. pust mirno vozvrashaiutsa v sostav Gruzii kak i bilo vsegda i ne budet nekokoi krovi, i vmeste budem pit vino i tantsevat pod sladkim dudukom.... a poka vrag na moei zemle ia vinujden vsegda gotovitsa k oborone... vopshem rosiia tut problema, eto ono sozdalo vse eti kavkazskie konflikti i emu eto s ruk ne soedet. vot rosiia obvinaet gruziu v genocid osetin potomushto v avguste mi ubili 800osetinskix omoncev
I k state vi toze imeite mnogo obshevo s Indo-Evropeiskimi jazikami. Many Georgian postpositions correspond to the meanings of prepositions in English. Each postposition requires the modified noun to be in a specific case. (This is similar to prepositions governing specific cases in many Indo-European languages such as German, Latin, Russian, and so on.)
Nash jazik ponatno no vot wash vopshem i ne jasno kakoi semeistvo.
Vasha ibero-Caucasian klasifikatsia jazika ne shetaetsa nastojashei i ne dakazeno shto ana daze sushestvuet. Patomushto vash jazik daze i ne semeistvo drugix Kavkazkix jazikof. On odelni , i ne kasaetsa Abkhaskomu, Cerkeskim i tak dalie....
Gruzinski iazik eto iz ibero-kavkazskoi semi,chego ne poniatno,korni chechenskogo, ingushskogo,nekotorix dagistanskix iazikov i takje cherkeskogo odni,u nix odno proisxojdenie i potom prosto rozvevalis otdelna i sformirovalis kak otdelnie iziki,no iz odnoi semi.vot esli neskolkix bratiev s detstvo po raznim mestam ostavit otdelno jit,oni v techenii ix jizni po raznomu budut razvevatsa no koren budet vseteki odin,da i osobenno k chechenskomu i ingushskomu, avarskomu i eshe nekot. ochen poxoji...
Mi kak zasheshali svoi dom tak i budem. Daze esli Ruskie napoidut na Tbilisi Armani tam budut dratsa! Ja toze dumal shto semeistvo Gruzinskogo jazika odno s drugimi kavkazkimi, no vot ja chital i ponjal shto eto ni tak. Gruzinski ne semeistvo kavkazkix jazikov i ibero-kavkazkaja grupa daze i ne sushestvuet eto pridumka. No koneshno ja v zizne ne skazu Gruzin ne kavkazets, patomushto vi zevote v Kavkaze, no vot mnogie Gruzini govorat shto mi Armani ne kavkaztsi eto falshivno i ja vsem dakazu.
...rodom iz Karabaxa, prosto iz za geograficheskoi prichini tolko v Armenii mojem vstrechatsa i sama toje bila v Tbilisi. Toje samoe drujba u menia est i s Azerbaijantsami i s Dagistantsami i s Chechentsami, evrei ... vopshem v Gruzii mi vse svoii tut. a te banditi kotorie grabili tvoi dom, oni takje i Gruzin grabeli, tam bilo mnogo banditov potomushto bil xaos, i krome Gruzinskoi armii tam vsiakie podrozdilenie bili kotorie grabejami zanemalis, no ne vse koneshno,a tak Abxazia takaije Gruzia...
Ti znaesh mne ne vazno kokumu gosudarstvo ja plachu nalog. Mne daze net problema esli Abxazia bila bi v sostave Gruzii. No pochemu voinoi nado bilo? Pochemu venite vsegda Russiu? Vit Gruzini zashli s patronami. Ja ne znaju kovo venit eto slishkom sikretno vso. Narod vsoravno kak baran nas obmanut. No kto na mena idot s ruziom puskai on bezit silno patomushto mi ne zdaomsa. V etom mire est ludi kotorie lubat voinu i te kto xotat pokoi. Vibirai kto ti. Shto gochesh krov ili vino? Oba ne poidot.
"A recent study (Gray & Atkinson) that applied the statistical tools used in timing genetic evolution to the lexical evolution of Indo-European languages strongly implied that the Indo-European homeland indeed appears to be in Asia Minor, and Armenian language (hence a well-defined group speaking it) split from it (along with Greek) at around 5300 BC, and split from Greek shortly thereafter."
No kakaja bi versia nebila bi , vse govorat shto eto mesto bilo ochen blisko k Kavkazu.
Drugaja teoria shto eto mesto severnaja Anatolia, I esho odna versia shto nachalo Indo-Evropeskogo yazika eto v Armenie. Kakraz vot eta poslednaja versia bila sozdana Gruzinskim uchonim poi mini Tamaz Gamkrelidze. "In 1984, it was suggested by Thomas Gamkrelidze and Vyacheslav V. Ivanov that the Proto-Indo-European homeland is located in the Armenian Highland."
gamkrelidze i ivanov rabotali dlia kgb, krasni uchioni
armenian highlad is where Noah came down, so everyone comes from there, but indo-evropean langiuage was formed only after the collapse of babylonian tower, until everyone spoke one language!!!
Ok let me start with this. You are correct about the term Caucasian maybe falsely used by Americans. BUT it is not based on hot air, it is based on theory that all white men and woman emerge from the Caucasian plateau and this theory is not bogus. Its a theory but its not bullshit. Indo-European home is placed by every theory in or around Caucasus. Look into it.
But before I go on you need to understand that Indo-European, Kartvelian or any other classification are linguistic designations NOT genetic. One can be indigenes Caucasian but speak a foreign language. This said you are wrong about the Babylon tower. The final beginning of the end of the tower of Babel probably began around 478 BC. The city had been taken over by the Persian King Xerxes who crushed a rebellion there that year.
The tower was neglected and crumbled . the earliest attested Indo-European language however is the language of Hittite language. This language was spoken from approximately 1800 BC (and probably before) to 1100 BC. As you can see waaayyyyy before the fall of Babylon. So your statement that Indo-European language was formed after the collapse of the tower of Babel is FALS!
Besides all of this the ancient Armenian language of Urartu was NOT Indo-European. It was Hurro-Urartian and believed to arrive from the Caucasus. Armenian language is not related to any other Indo-European. Our language is considered a separate branch. This shows that our language has been separated from others for a long time. Showing that we have been living in one place for a long time. All Caucasian languages are relatively separated.
This is about Kartvelian:No relationship with other languages, not even with the North Caucasian languages, has been demonstrated so far, due to the lack of sound correspondences between the South and North Caucasian families.
There is no scientific basis besides nationalistic once to assume that Armenians are not indigenous to Kavkaz. Armenian traces in Caucasus are older or as old as any other Caucasian people. And last but not least I SHIT ON EVERYONE WHO SAIS ARMENIANS ARE NOT CAUCASIANS!
@PeopleOfAr lets say that I even agree on what you say.... please define caucasus for me, from geographical and social perspective. Armenians gepgraphicly are nowhere close to caucasus chain of mountain. As a matter of fact your homeland lays right on the Ararat mountain chains. However, Armenians are considered caucasians from social perspective because their culture is, some what, related to other caucasian cultures.
@losdruid as much as any region can possibly be defined as a region, Caucasus has been geographically defined by specialists to include North Caucasian lands, Georgia, Azerbaijan AND modern day Armenia. Open the atlas and see for yourself. For as long as history actually been recorded Armenian presence in and around the area has been recorded with it. Tigranes the Great from before the birth of Christ governed a huge region of south Caucasus together with most of modern Georgian lands.
@losdruid And the land of Azerbaijanis. The ancient people living on what is now known as Azerbaijan are called CAUCASIAN Albanians. Those people lived on the same latitude as the Armenian people. You suppose they should retain their title but Armenians should not be called Caucasian? The Caucasian region is not defined by the Caucasus mountains.
@losdruid Listen I am not debating the name of the geographic area, I am merely stating whether people like it or not Armenians have been recorded to live on their lands for a very long time. And since the area is known as Caucasus, that is who they are just like Moroccans are Africans and Indians Asians.
@losdruid If you want to debate whether the area of Armenian presence should be called Caucasus or not, you should take it up with the cartographers, Geographers and other such specialists. But as I am making my case I am speaking about the area that is defined by science and understood by most as Caucasus or to be precise South Caucasus if you wish. My point is Armenian presence in the area that is considered Caucasus today has been prominent and well known.
@losdruid But sure if your case is that Armenians are Anatolian people I would also not object as Armenians lived on the crossroads of Anatolia, Mid-East and Caucasus. We do not claim to posses the Caucasus mountains or Georgian land or what ever. My point is a lot of Caucasian peoples that are considered as such had very little of their history recorded in the area while that of the Armenians is well known.
@PeopleOfAr You say caucasian peoples that are considered as such had very little of their history recorded in the area while that of the Armenians is well known. Lol Georgia has as much history (if not more) recorded of their presence in caucasus as Armenians or as any other old civilisations who have maintined their integrity until this day. Caucasus itself derives from Georgian (svan ) word, caucas, which means the lightning. Theory states that they named the mountain caucas due to its shape.
@losdruid Still because of politics and because Armenians retaining their cultural uniqueness in stead of assimilating to that of the north Caucasus (like most), some hostile people wish Armenians do not belong to the region. Which is absurd and the opposite of truth. The entire word Caucasus is from ancient Armenian and Georgian chronicles. We are all children of Togarmah
@PeopleOfAr You are wrong when saying that Armenia has the oldest presence in the region. The oldest states of Caucasus was the Colchian, Iberian, and Urartuian civilisations. When talking about Azerbaijans, they are not the decendents of old Caucasian albanians who inhabited those lands all those time ago. Real albanians are Udins, look it up in the dictionary. They are real decendants of aincent Albenians and still speack the old Albanian language
@PeopleOfAr You are mixing two thing into one another by saying that Armenia belongs to Caucasian region. That term is too broad and depends on what do you mean by that. Georgaphically thats false, socially it is right. If you took time to read my comment you would have understood what I ment when I was typing it. Nobody argues About armenian historical presence in the region that is now known as Armenia. However weither if the region is caucasus or not thats different story.
@losdruid btw. the Caucasian mountains actually do include Armenia. The Caucasus Mountains is a mountain system in Eurasia.. Theyincludes the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range and the Lesser Caucasus Mountains. Armenia belongs to the lesser Caucasus mountain range. The mountain range extends into Armenia and southwestern Azerbaijan. Some of the prominent peaks of the region include Mt. Aragats and Kapudzhukh (Armenia).
@PeopleOfAr@PeopleOfAr first of all caucasus mountains do not include Armenia.... Caucasus region does.... those are two different things and should not be mixed. if you took time to carefully read my comment you would have understand my point. Second of all, nobody argues that Armenians are not from the region where they live right now but on the other hand if that region belongs to caucasus or not is debatable from different points of view.
@PeopleOfAr When you are talking about historical presence and compare it to north caucasus, its useless. Mainly because north caucasus, eventhough all those years of existance, never had written language and was always devided in numerous tribes. The only unified kingdoms with records in the region are Georgia and Armenia (used to be Albania too but now their civilisation is now gone). The first records about North caucasians comes from Georgian anals and its from early midlle centuries
@losdruid first of all I did not say Armenia has the oldest presence. Note that nowhere I write that Armenian recorded history dates before that of Georgians. I haven't expressed my opinion on that question. And I agree that oldest known civilizations in the region are Urartu and Colchis, but not Iberia. Iberia was recorded around 300 BC, Armenia around 600 BC. But don't get me wrong I do not doubt that Georgians are ancient Caucasian people with a well recorded history! I would not claim that.
@losdruid I only say Armenian recorded history dates earlier than that of many so called indigenous Caucasians (I said 'some', not all), while they are considered Caucasians some hostile people claim Armenians not to be as such. That was my argument. And I do not claim Armenians have more records of the ancient times than Georgians do, again I did not express my opinion on that question. If only you would read my comments carefully... ;)
@losdruid Secondly I do agree about the Azerbaijanis not being Albanians. I know about the Udis people. I brought forth the example of Albanians to illustrate their geographic settlement which corresponds to the same latitude Armenians occupy. Thus I wander why from a geographical point of few consider Albanians Caucasian but not the Armenians?
@PeopleOfAr As for the Geography, ok I will recheck my referances just in case but as far as I know 70 percent of caucasian mountain Chain is located in Georgia (including 3 out of 4 of its highest peacks).
@losdruid Finally, I do not mix two things with one another. Geographically Armenia is considered Caucasus, look in the Atlas it's a FACT! I quote: "Republic of Armenia is a landlocked mountainous country in the Caucasus region." You cannot say it is debatable just like you cannot say it is debatable whether Zimbabwe is Africa or not. If you want to debate this issue you should debate it with the geographers and cartographers. Because according to them Armenia belongs to the Caucasian region.
@PeopleOfAr The only people who try to exclude Caucasian term not just from Armenians but also from Georgians and even from Vainakhs are Circassians. Lol they think that they are the only caucasians on the face of the earth while the earliest record of them even existing comes from Georgian anals in 5th century. You are wrong about Iberia though. Iberia and colchis was amost one the same thing. the oldest records about colchis state tibers (iberians) were one of the 12 Colchian tribes in caucas
@losdruid So again, I did not say Georgia was any less a Caucasian nation than Armenia. I did not say Georgia has no recorded history or less recorded history... In fact I did not say anything bad about Georgia or Georgian people. I have no bad feelings towards Georgian people. Even though I am from Abkhazia I actually respect Georgians. The only thing that bothers me is that while geographically Armenia is defined as Caucasus, some hostile people claim we do not “belong”to “their” region.
@PeopleOfAr here is a thing. when you decide to be someone, you can be it. For example: Basques live all the way in Iberian penisula of Spain but they identify themselves as caucasians who were one of the earliest migration waves that struck the Europe. Point I am making is that, no one cant exclaim you from being caucasian if you know you are. its as simple as that. Like I said, socialy speacking , Armenians are caucasians as far as the term goes.
@losdruid I understand what you say. But you made one flaw initially thinking that Armenia is geographically not considered to lay within the Caucasus, because that is the case. Indeed Armenia is geographically considered Caucasus it is within every atlas, on the internet in Google maps and even Wikipedia. When you search for Caucasus region you will see Armenia is always there.
@losdruid But About Iberia I did not know this could you direct me to a source? Am not critical just curious. Because what I read when search for Iberia. I find that this name was only recorded for the first time in 302 BC. In the Etymology section it states that is actually from the Armenian name:
@losdruid “…theory on the etymology of the name Iberia, proposed by Giorgi Melikishvili, was that it was derived from the Armenian designation for Georgia, Virkʿ (Armenian: Վիրք, and Ivirkʿ [Իվիրք] and Iverkʿ. Accordingly, in following Ivane Javakhishvili's theory, the ethnic designation of "Sber", a variant of Sver, was derived the word "Hber" ("Hver") (and thus Iberia) and the Armenian variants, Ver and Vir. “
@losdruid Since we are talking about the etymology, could you please tell me where the name for Armenians (Somexi) comes from? I know that is how Georgians call us, but I never know what it really means and why they call us as such. Because No one ells calls us like that most call us Armenians, Ermeni, Armenoi, etc... but no one calls us anything close to Somexi. What does that mean do you know? Maybe it means something..
@PeopleOfAr They identified Armenians as relatives of Meskhi and therefore somekhi (meaning people like meskhs) came into use. But it is very debatable because meskhs did not only live in todays meskhet-javakheti but also in modern day abkhazia as well... they were the oldest inhabitants of the abkhazia
@losdruid yes I heard of this theory of Mushki. There was a book I read about Armenians it stated they are related to Moschoi. But I’m not so sure about that. Anyway thanks for the explanation. Very strange that in Wikipedia when one searches for "Caucasian Iberia" under etymology there is no such explanation about Colkhian tribe of Iberians.
@losdruid Btw. I also have a theory for why we call you the way we do. I always thought we called you "Veratsi" because you live above us geographically, as the word “Vera” is from "Verev" means “above”. And "-tsi" is to illustrate that they are one people. Just like Amerikanatsi, Germanatsi and Holandatsi. Or because you are highlanders who live on “high” (upper) grounds. But I don’t know it’s just my theory, according to wikipedia it is because of Virk or Verk, Iveria/Iberia.
Indo-European eto termin sam i govorit ochom zdes rech. Indo-Europa eto mestnost mezdu Indiei i Evropoi. A tam vot kak ras i Kavkaz. Kavkaz naxodetsa mezdu Indiei i Evropoi , drevnie ludi kak Armani katorie govorili etot jazik raspostronili ego iz kavkaza na zapod (evropa) i vostok (india , Iran...).
Est nekatorie teorii pro mesto nachalo etoi grupi (Indo-Evropeskix) yazikov. Odna teoria govorit shto eto mesto severni kavkaz.
Gruzia i kavkaz vsegda schitaetsia i pishetsia "ni-indoevropesikii" !!!
kavkaz eto kavkaz!! tam jivut aborigeni i avtoxtoni!! tak bilo vsia evropa , vse jili tam aborigeni evropeci , no potom elini i indo-evropeici prishli i asimilirovali !!! no est nacii ludi v sicilie, v venecie, albanie, sardinie, kto esho ni indoevropeici i aborigeni !!
Vo perwix Indo-European eto lingvisticheskaja klasifikatsia (semeistvo yazikof) a ni biologicheskaja. Za to shto mi govorim na Indo-Evropeiskom jazike eto ne oznochaet shto mi toze shetaeimsa biologicheski Indo Evropeitsi. Azeri bolshenstvo kavkaztsi no govorat po Turetski (Alataiski).
Indo-Evropeitsi eto I est Kavkaztsi. Patomo v Amerike na belovo cheloveka iz Evropi govorat "Caucasian". Nashi sledi v kavkaze drevnei mnogix kotorie seba nazivaut kavkaztsemi. Ja sechas tebe obesnu pro Indo-Evropeskuju kategoriu nashevo jazika.
Podchti vse evropeiskie jaziki prenadlezat k grupe indo-European. A pochemu Indo, patomushto v drevnei Indie ixni drevni jazik "Sanskrit" ochen poxoz na Evropeiski. I v ixnix legendax napisono shto eto bil jazik svetlix ludei, shto oni prenesli im.
net, dorogoi, kavkazec ni Indo-evropiec. pochemu v amerike beli chelovek nazivatesia kavkiazec, eto tolko iz 18 ovo veka, i potomushto eto krasivaia imia. i prachitai knigu "why white people are called caucasian" (available on internet in PDF) u , i eto oshibka, potomushto kavkazec prosto geneticheski ni indo-evropiec, potom uznali i etot nauka 18 veka uzhe ni prav. i dzlia tvoi informacii, American National Library rejected the term "Caucaisan" in favour of term "European" in 2006 (?)
Ti pitux mi Bagramyan dralis za swoi dom.Ti kavo sukoi naziwaesh? Vashi banditi zaxodili v moi dom, shto nam delat ne zashishat nash dom? Ti zapomni mi Armani vsegda budem zasheshat nashix detei i zenshin.Mi vsegda tak delali i budem delat.Armani v Gruzie dralis protev Arman v Abkhazie patomushto kazdi iz nas za svoi dom derotsa.Tak shto ti zatkni past ubludok poka ne znaesh kak s uvazeniem obroshatsa. A tak kak ti razgovarivaesh ti ne Kavkazets ti pitux. Kavkazets tot kto seba vedot po kavkazki
mi znaem i vspominamem chto mnogie tbilisskie armiani drali v abxaziae, i sam zatknis suka mi o nem ne govorim, no chto vi i bagramiani zdelali gruzinam tam ab etom nikto ni zamalchit ubliudak !!!! tolko jit v kavkaze eto ne bit kavkazec, vi , osetini, kozaki i drugie ni-kavkazcvi izvestnie putanki i u vas net chisti kavkazskii krov , vi INDO-EVROPEICI !!! Gruzini, Vainakhi, i malo drugie - vot kavkazskii krov, serdca, dux i xarakter nastoiashii - sprasi em
ti monarxist etot film talkuyesh tak kak tebe nravitsa...tam armyani gruzina ni derjut kak plenni-on svobodni chelovek...plennika ne puskayut guliat po selu svobodno i suka bliat eto tvoya mama chto rodila takogo pridurka kak ti...
"i monarxist etot film talkuyesh tak kak tebe nravitsa...tam armyani gruzina ni derjut kak plenni-on svobodni chelovek..." ti toje tak govorish - tphu naxui
Koroche kto k armyanam imeyet pritenzii-pust realno snimi spravitsa ei vi internetovskie 'mujchini' tot kotori snial etot film bolshoi obijnik...naschet BAGRAMYANA on zashishal svoyu rodinu-gde on rodilsya...vo vtoroi mirovoi mnogie armyani kotorie jili zdes vo Francii toje sobralis, organizovali partizanskie brigadi i voevali protiv fashistov-oni zashishali svoyu rodinu-toest Franciu pridurki...toje samoe i Bagramyan,ya jivu vo Francii gorod Metz yest kto sredi vas kotori xochet vstretitsa?
Tigranin posmotri na svoego sootechestvennika - terrorist nastoyashiy.kto kto no gruzini nikogda ne bili predatelyami,v otlichii ot vas.ti posmotri etot film.armyane derjali gruzina v plenu,xoteli obmenyat ego potom,no obrashalis s nim na BRAT BRAT,suki blya
jakobiguza: a kogda eti armyane voevali protiv gruzin v abxazskoy voyne xorosho bilo??togda oni ne bili nashimi bratyami??otryad "Bagramyan" dlya utochneniya.dvulichnie lyudi,v eto filme pokazano kak oni derjali gruzin v plenu,chtob obmenyat ix potom!a vrali im chto gruzini ix bratya!da komu vi vrete? "TRIP TO KARABAKH" nazivayetsya film!posmotrite vse!
ti nexuja ne znaesh o Bagramyan. Ja Armenin iz Abxazii. Mi dralis ni protev Gruzin i ne za Abxaz mi zashshali svoi doma ot banditov. A vi tam v Tbilisi prazdnik ustroili kogda nas rezali. Vi xot znaite shto vashi banditi tam delali? Esli baltaesh to uznai pravdu sperva. Mi vzali oruzea v ruku shtobi nashi deti i zoni bili v bezopasnasti. Esli na nas Ruskie napaidut v Tbilisi mi vazmom oruzia takze zasheshat Tbilisi protev bantitov. Xvatit zdes vrazdebnuju propagandu vesti.
chto sukka?!!!! BAGRAMIAN PRTIV GRUZINOV NE VAEVAL?? I DAJE GRUZINI ZASHISHALI?? DA??!! TPU.. . , YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REMEMBER EVERYTHING, JUST SHUT UP, NO NEED FOR IT
suka! etot film pokazivaet kak u armianov est gruzin v plen realno i govoriat "brat-jan" !!!! i "veliko-dushni armyan"... idi naxui suka tvouy tigraninskuyu mamu ebal
Armenini toze Kavkaszi i Bratja nashi. Ne nada Wrasdi Bratja, ne nada radavaz Rassiu. Wez ani etava i dabivajutsja. Ani sasdawajut spezialnie spezialnie Gruppi, katorie tolka nad etim i rabotajut... Aznuza nada,wi zo ne panimaize eta ?!U wsex jest,i plaxie i xaroshie
1993 armiani ruski kazaki chechen abkhaz protiv gruziu
GeoMaffia 1 month ago
очень странное видео. армяни и евреи учат нас что национальность не имеет значемие. при этом обе ети нации как сектанти. у армян в лексиконе "одолжи" такое слово вобще нету и они от другого по национальности человека ничего не купят.
LuckyHut0RealEstate 8 months ago
u see it always depends.... for example armenians call themselves haes (sons of haos). however Haos was first mentioned in Georgian chronicles written by leonti Mroveli (who lived in modern day bzipi,abkhazia btw). I mostly specialize in Abkhazian history and origins and therefore know little about more deep souther caucasus. :)
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid yes very interesting, thank you. Since I come from Abkhazia (Sukhumi) I always like to hear about that area as well :p Man I miss that city. My best memories are from there :) It’s a magical place no doubt.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr yeah city is magical ofcause. Sukhumi (tskhumi) in Georgian, svan, language means horne beam tree :) thats how the city was named.... unfortunatelly, from what I have heard lately, the city is complitely ruined and no one bothers to rebuilt even tiny part of it. only 2 hotels work in sukhum nowdays and every single building has a bullet whole in it :( Its ok, when Georgians return we will rebuild it to tribute its prior glory.
losdruid 11 months ago
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PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
its said in any encyclopedia lol. just google colchian tribes and you will see that Tiber/tubal/tuber was one of many colchian tribes. others were moschi, talibs, Misimians/soanes, Macrones, laz, abshile, henochi, sanige, abazk, Geloni, mossynoechi and so on. As for Somekhi.... i am not sure why we call you that but it has something to do with the Meskhetians. theory has it that Georgians identified armenians as relatives of one of Georgian tribe, Meskhi(Moschi)
losdruid 11 months ago
"Do Georgians like Armenians?" I don't know. Do Armenians like Georgians? YES. I am Armenian, come from a Armenian family, and NEVER have I EVER heard one bad thing about Georgians.
If it makes you feel better to know, when ever Georgia comes on Eurovision we all raise up the volume and get cheer. hahaha.
Armenia and Georgia, God bless both nations!
ImALWAYSleft 11 months ago 3
@ImALWAYSleft gagimarjos ;-))
gigia19xx 11 months ago
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И нет ! грузин армянина не любит ! это где-то 90% населения =)
сам арменин родился в Грузии... незнаю я люблю мою родину не накакую не поменяю даже на Армению... но горжюсь то что я Армянин... но
до слёз обидно когда тупые люди выходят одно сторонне развиты и кричат то чего незнают... а кричат то что сосед кричит и то что телевизор говорит :)
bestisbmw 1 year ago
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И нет ! грузин армянина не любит ! это где-то 90% населения =)
сам арменин родился в Грузии... незнаю я люблю мою родину не накакую не поменяю даже на Армению... но горжюсь то что я Армянин... но
до слёз обидно когда тупые люди выходят одно сторонне развиты и кричат то чего незнают... а кричат то что сосед кричит и то что телевизор говорит :)
bestisbmw 1 year ago
грузия обижена на армению изза политических взлгядов армении... давайте подумаем а что армения может зделать? против россии?? к сожелению так сложилось что политические взгляды у Армении и Грузии разные но что будет делать если Россия отвернется... подумаем вместе ) справа Азеры с лева Турки ... что они смогут зделать? ОТКРОЙТЕ КНИГУ ! там как Грузия сложилась так сразу они воевали и турками и персами и т.д... а это мы забыли да? теперь они наши братья?
bestisbmw 1 year ago
Armenia ne bratskii narod,bratskii narod nazivaetsya kogda v trudnie minuti vmeste stoboi stoit a eti sosedi tolko i otlichie mejdu nami eto to chto nasha dver otkrito dlya vsei nacii ne imeet znachenie tam ruskii budet, azerbaijanec amerikanec ili afrikanec , a v Armenii tolko armeicii , chestno govarya ne lubim armiancev prosto u nas v krovi pomagat ludyam i pomagaem , i eshe dlya tupix obistnyau "ne lubim ne znachet chto nenavidim", u nix svoi minusi v otnoshenii k nam,
titso007 1 year ago
we dont like armenians just becouse they dont like us and they are jelouse of everything we have, if georgian didnt save armenia many times from the turks, armenia shouldnt be here now
50GEORGIAN 1 year ago
@50GEORGIAN
losdruid 1 year ago
@Armenin81 shut up shakal, Tfu JUDA
213HERERRA 1 year ago
armenians are judas not brothers
admiralmiro 1 year ago
What movie is this ?
ushrark 1 year ago
@ushrark ...THIS FILMS NAME IS ( trip to yarabax)..
IREXXXXXXX 1 year ago
Armenians are rude and filthy nation.
resad444 1 year ago
Film rulit
Exchange93 1 year ago
4to bi ne govorili vse ravno dlya armyanina gruzin i dlya gruzina armyanin samiy blizki 4elovek
MsXatab 1 year ago
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Qvatro0 1 year ago
"просто думать нужно о мире с тем кто сильнее тебя и находится рядом "...
chto bliat? ti narmalni? ia skazhu tebe chto nuzhna: nuzhna druzhitsa dazhe s diavolom, dlia SVABODI KAVKAZ ILI UNICHTOZHENIi ROSSII.
kakoi sosed blaid? nash sosed severni kavkaz, idi naxui
213HERERRA 1 year ago
armeniansare very bad peoples.
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
Грузин крассава .
особено понравилось конец )
_I'm not russian, I'm jewish
_Good girl тогда, и уходит )))
ChechenoUrartuec1 2 years ago
net bolshe bratskix narodov tshem armiani i gruzini! nashi predkie bili odni! mi proisxodim drug-ot-druga! eta spetsialno delaetsia shtob mi drug-druga ne navideli! armiani, vije znaete shto mi vas uvajaem, a ploxie ludi vezde i u vas i u nas... ne nado slushat nekavo! glavnoe drujit i lubit drug-druga!
sergio050978 2 years ago 2
kakie u nas adni predki a?? armiane indaevrapeiskaia rasa, a gruzini ibera kavkaskaia nashi krovnie bratia eta chechna ingushi. a ne armiane !
mtiulii 2 years ago
pajalusta ni nachinai.. "brat-jan"
ni odin gruzin ne verit eti skazki
213HERERRA 2 years ago
армяне грузинам не братья!Подумайте об Джавахетии!
VDN1485 1 year ago
@VDN1485 a shto nada dumac ? javaxeti adin iz regionav Gruzi i vssoo. shto nada shas dumac eta ti mne obesni ?
giomarshania 1 year ago
@giomarshania to 4to eti suki armyane ee toje hotyat otnyat!
VDN1485 1 year ago
@VDN1485 xatat odnoo a shto im budet eta drugoe .
giomarshania 1 year ago
@VDN1485 А ты че сюда лез ?
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@everythingisahead а ты че мне пишешь?
VDN1485 1 year ago
@VDN1485 Потому что в этом видео ничего нету про азеров,почему суете свой нос?
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@everythingisahead как нет ара,тут же про карабах))))))
VDN1485 1 year ago
haiastan i vracistan bratia!!! es kes sirumem haias!!! ;) :))
tolgva 2 years ago 2
u nas ne ploxie otnosheniia, v gruzii ochen mnogo armian, sredi nix u menia mnogo druzei. ia viros s armianami iz kapana i giumri. oni mne kak bratia. ploxie armiane tolko armiane iz bataliona bagramiana, oni v abxazii prodalis rossii i voevali protiv gruzin.izmena kavkazu-eto ochen bolshoi grex!!
P.S. haos i kartlos bili bratiami
tolgva 2 years ago
-А Грузины Армян любят?
-А какое это ваших Русских дело?
Вот это правельно! Если Армяне И Грузины в плохих отношениях в этом виноваты только турки и русские, но в первую очередь мы сами,
ARMENIANYAN 2 years ago 16
Да, дорогой. Грузины Армян любят ! И я не только про себя говорю, поверь, в Армянах Грузины видят САМЫХ близких и по духу, и по культуре. Господь дал нам одну Веру, и невероятное тепло в сердце. Не давай никому это разорвать, как я это делаю многие годы.
dimpap75 2 years ago 6
kak lubiat? armian, eto vrag kotori govorit "brat-jan"!!!!
213HERERRA 2 years ago
@ARMENIANYAN a otkuda vzial chto Armiane i Gruzini v ploxix otnosheniax ? ))
Chachba75 11 months ago
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nodo1986 2 years ago
Are you sure about your statement? Think before you respond back.
Melglorypride 2 years ago
ia uveren shto armiani nashi vragi da tak dumaiu
nodo1986 2 years ago
a kak nazivaetsya etot film ??
boka1990 2 years ago
"trip to karabagh"
nodo1986 2 years ago 3
opat 25:)))) I really don't care about all that
B.S
I am just proud to be Georgian:)
Kanechno Galasavali:) ved on tak paxosh na Kavkazca:)))
giorgipanj 2 years ago 2
213HERERRA poshol na xui gandon bozi txa
Tigranin 2 years ago 3
Dengi eto zlo,tembolie s shtatov:))
giorgipanj 3 years ago
giorgipanj eto tochno haha. Gorosho ti prav mozet bit chu chut :) no skazi kak tam v Amerike? Vi za Obamu golosovali?
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
Ti prav axper jan prosti mena greshnogo:)
giorgipanj 3 years ago
Ti prav axper jan.Ya nikogda ob etom nezadumivalsa.prosti mena greshnogo.
giorgipanj 3 years ago
no kak eto ne gumanno,ostolnoe preobladaushee bolshenstvo nikto ne sprosil,ili seichas golosuetsa v polzu menshenstva???
Russia ejegodna ubivaet svoimi netrezvimi lapami,tisachi svoix je ditei.kuda bolshe chem gibnut na voine.
i millioni spivautsa.i ya schitau ,strana imeushay lapi po gorlo v krovi v peremeshku s gavnom neimet nikakovo prava vistupat v roli mirovogo sudi
Naschet pizdec usa neznau,no russi tot pizdec uje davno,tak kak zdravaya psixika naroda pokolechina i mne ix iskrenijal:(
giorgipanj 3 years ago
ahahha kak mne smeshno bilo chetat tvou Rusofobiu. Xorosho nauchili teba eti Yamki. Ti toze verish v American Dream da? A kak nashot Axis of evil ili Rogue states? hahahah Kak garasho vas tam umeut mazgi chistit. Wi ne dolzni gorditsa tem shto drugie strani vlazivaut v Ameriku, vi dolzni boyatsa shto Amerika kuplina drugimi stranami. I eto esho posmotrem skolko viderzetsa. A nashot mirovoi sprovedlivosti to pazalusta ne nado zdes smeshit ludei vit mi vse ni dibili.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Kakoe sprovedlivost iz Ameriki vishlo? Eto tu demokratiu kotorie ani Iraku i Afganu prinesli, vi eto v Gruzie xotite? Da? Odna iz samix molodix stran mira i uze samoya agresivnaya. Posmotri skolko tratet na voenuyu industriu... Da kavo vi durite? Amerika ne imeit pravo daze na Gitlera paltsami tikat, patomushto Amerikanski palets krovinoi. Pochemu dumaesh Ameriku vse nenavidat? Ili was tam do sexpor uchat shto Amerika spasatel mira? Hehehehhe
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Ja tebe odnu vesh skazu patom sam reshai kto bolshe zlo. Bagatstvo bez platno ne proxidet. Za eto nado vorovat i otnemat i obmanivat i ubivat. Esli ti derektor to ktoto drugoi rabochi, esli ti imeesh to ktoto drugoi ne imeet. A kakaya strana bolshe vsex imeet? Vot ta strana bolshe vsex i voruet, obmanivaet, otnemaet i ubevaet.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Ti prav axper jan.ya nikogda ob etom nezadumivalsa.prosti mena greshnogo
giorgipanj 3 years ago
xorosho genatsvali, tolko dai 1000 baksov proshu ;)
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
A vi znaete chto russia xranit 80% svoego kapitala v gasydarstvenix akciax usa.
i chto usa bolshe vsego tratit na blagotvoritelnost,a russia krome svoego dejurnovo askala i goloi jopi ne nachto negorazda.
mogu saglositsa s polojeniem Abxazi i nevkoem sluchai ne osujdau"nelza rugat pakrovitelei",russia dla Abxazi edinstveni luchik sveta,kak dla pervobitnovogo cheloveka agon,daje ne delo v mandarinax ili otsutstvie svoix pasportov ,deneg i pensi.Abxazi sostavlali1/3 chast naselenia
giorgipanj 3 years ago
Esli xotite znat(imeet prava usa vmeshivatsa vo vse?) jestko otvechau-ne tolko imeet ,no i obazana.
obazana tak kak kormit ves mir,vse v ocheredi s pratanutoi rukoi.v 90-e golodnaya russia tolko i nepodoxla blagodora usa.Y mena sosedi usinovili 4 ruskix detei,kajdi rebenok obxoditsa 40.000$.gasudarstva poluligalno pradaet detei,chtob na baksi potom kalashi strugat.A te kto nenovidit usa tot v sladkix snax ee vidit,i baksi xranat pod podushkoi.a kto videl ochereda v pasolstvox???
giorgipanj 3 years ago
:) voobshem moe soprotevlenie bit vtanutim v etu avanturu okazalos bezuspeshnim:)
Nexochu perebirat ves xlam istorii,tembole vse mi znaem kak bili obrazovani bratskie respubliki...
No nastolko kristalnoi i bezuprechnoi istori kak y Gruzi,malo kto mojet poxvastatsa.Gruzia nekogda nebila zavaevatelem.po istecheni obstayatelstv,mne prixodilos chasto menat mesto jitelstvo i finalom maego marafona stalo Usa.strana stavshaya rodinoi moim detam,strana davshaya mne za 11 let stolko,skolko i nemchtal
giorgipanj 3 years ago
koneshno i America zlo, toje imperia no bolee tsivilizovanaia, tak shto obo zlo, no Kreml vapshe satana, ubiitsa kavkaztsev, tselix narodov vapshe istremili ruskie, kak naprimer shapsugh, jikov i drugix, polovinu chechni, ingushov, i ne ostonovlivaiutsa, rosiia obezatelno rozvaletsa, mojet i Amerika no pozje, no glavnoe shto bez rosii kavkaz budet protsvetat, i sovetuiu vam ne verit ruskim kanalom, vi ne znaete kakuiu chuj oni govoriat, prosto eto tak vse ne obesnit tut!
nurlan01lezgi 3 years ago
Ya somnevaus. Amerika sechas bolshe ubivaet. Amerika svoix sosed yuznuju ameriku terroriziruet. Mexico (zapatistas), Bolivia (Morales), Venezuela (Chaves), Slavador, Columbia (FARC) Cuba i tak dalie. Amerika vsegda imela problemu na uge a teper svoi nos suyot v kavkaz i delaet tak shtobi Russia toze takuju ze problemu imela. A russia sechas reshila esli vi knam lezite to mi k vam. I teper bolshe pomagaet uznoi amerike.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
No ti prav dva zla, prosto zalko shto nam nado viberat mezdu dva zla. No mi kavkaztsi peshki zdes vso rech idot mezdu etim zlom. Eto ixena voina a nas ispolzujut. No mne ne ponjatno pochemu Gruzia ne puskajut Abxazie svobodu? Vit narod xochet.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
a to shto ia pishu latinskimi bukvami kakoe eto imeet znachenie? vopshem tut sporit pro takix veshax da eshe pro lingvisticheskuiu prenodlejnost eto ne imeet smisla, prosto jelaiu shtob ves kavkaz jil vmeste bratski i mirno i bez rosii, a rosiia obezatelno rozvaletsa, podojdem eshe neskolko let i sam uvidesh, a u nas budet mir i protsvetanie!
Dai Bog!
zviadan 3 years ago
ja mnogo pro Abxaziu ne budu govorit xot i eto moja rodina ja Armenin i znaju shto Gruzini budut venit shto mi vmeshevaimsa. Tak shto svoim deistviem ja ne gochi vrazdu mezdu arman i gruzin seit. No ja skazu pro russiu. Ja shetau eto bolshaja oshibka shto vi tak vrazdebno pro svoix vechnix sosed govorite. Da ja saglasen kremlin ni samuju lutsheu politiki vedot nashot kavkaza. No mne ix ochen ponatno. Eto problema ne kavkaza eto problema vsego bivshevo sovetskovo sojuza.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
On razvalilsa i vse venat russiu.Kyrgyzstan Ukraina balticheskie strani Gruzia i tak dalie. Vse venat Russiu, no vit sovetski sojuz bil nash vsex. On razvalilsa ni iza Russii a iza Zapoda. Tot sami zapod katori sechas vmeshivaetsa v nashi dela. Kto dal oruzeja Gruzii? Kto dal zadanie? Ni Bush? Eto ze jasno v chom zdes delo. Kavkaz eto tolko peshki zdes rech edot o novom mirovom poradke kak Saakashvili sam govoril po CNN.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
A esli chesno skazat Abkhazi ne xotat v Gruzinski sostav. I Ossetini ne xotat. Zdes delo ne v Russii a v zapode. Ja lichno ne protev Russii. Ja protev vsex kto pozabili shto mi bratja bili. Eto kosaetsa Skinxedov I takix gondonov kotorie zabili shto mi vmeste natsistof razbili. I mne ne nravitsa shto Russia ochen agresivno otnosetsa k kavkazu. Nado bolshe deplomaticheski postupat. No shtobi skazat shto Russia eto nash vrag ja ne skazu.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Eto Amerika pirvei razvalitsa , odna iz molodeishix stran mira I uze skolko voin zateila. Eto dolgo ne budet prodolzatsa. Ves mir nenovidet Ameriu. Daze v Evrope. Million ludei ubili uze v Irake. Kto zdes zlo? Russia ili Amerka?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
tex osetinskix omonovtsev kotorie sami nachali streliat pervimi v gruzinskix politseiskix i na mirnix selax i iz za etogo ix nashie vsex unichtojeli, netu bolshe osetinskogo omona, a Tsxinval bil vapshe evakuirovan i mirnix jitelei poterii tam bilo 21 chelovek,i eto genotsid a to shto ruskie unichtojili 30% chechenskogo naselenie,bolee 250 000 mirnix jitelei eto ne genotsid da?nu u vas tam naverno tolko ruskie teliki pokazivaiut i vi tolko i slishite kremlevskuiu propagandu i ne znaete mnogo
zviadan 3 years ago
moya malovajnaya replika neimeet nekakovo otnashenia k vashei besede(PeopleOfAR i zviadan) Prosto xochu napomnit "riba gniet s golovi" Mejdu nami bil ploxoi referi.mesto togo chtob raznemat,nas stravlivali
Zasheshaya svoi doma,takje bili prisvoini nezakono chujie,ne bes pomoshi tex"mirotvorcev"katorie kuda bolee strashnei banditov na tankax. xochu napomnit,chto te "miloserdnie"giroi katorie zasheshaut ves kavkaz ot gruzin y seba narodine xyarat i arman i abxaz i osetin.........................
giorgipanj 3 years ago
I vsem nam svoistveno gorditsa svoimi kornami,xot paroi drugie ispitivaut antipatiu k toi ili inoi naci.Postaraus ne rozvodit dimagogiu i virazetsa kak mjno bezbolezneno dla drugix,No ya (prajivshi kakoe to vrema v russi) vazmushaus do bezobrazia,kak y naroda nasravshix na svoi cenasti i kulturu,xvataet naglosti eshe pizdet na drugix.dinamichnost penkov pod zad,ot vsego celivizovonogo mira,zastavlaut russi srivatsa na malenkix stranax,ustraevay tam balogan.
Ved eto ne dla kovo ne sekret:)
giorgipanj 3 years ago
S ogromni interesom osnakomilsa so stol yarkim viskazivaniem,bolee togo,
bil porojen aratorskimi danimi,v chastnosti deplomati v peremeshku s "yazikom" bolee
dominirueshem v obixodnoi jizne:)
Ya chasto uchavstvoval v podobnix meropriatiax,no stalkivayas s bespredelom toi tupasti,ostavil svoe "xobi" v proshlom.Tak izredka inagda,otchebuchu,kogda uj sovsem nespravlaus s imociami:)
Gruziu ya pokinul eshe v lexie 90-e,no ostalos mnogo teplix vospomenanei.
Kajdaya nacia unikalno po svoemu
giorgipanj 3 years ago
...svanski iazik ochen sluxom otlichaiutsa ot samogo gruzinskogo no eto odno semia, pedestal odin u nix u vsex, tak shto esli ti odin ili eshe neskolko ludei eto budut otretsat eto nechego ne izmenit, fakt est fakt. a to shto armianski eto indoevropeiski iazik toje ne znachet shto armiane ne kavkaztsi,oni uje tak dolgo tut jivut shto uje smeshilis s kavkazom i prosto iazik ostlsa starii,kak naprimer Finski iazik eto iz Urala edet no oni sami Fini podchti te je samie skandinavtsi,tut mnog sxodstv
zviadan 3 years ago
Shto ti ne ponemaesh eto to shto Indo-Evropeiski jazik proizoshol v kavkaze. Msto rozdenia etoi grupi v kavkaze ili vokrug ego (Anatolia ili severni kavkaz). Eto uchonie dakazivaut. Gruzinski uchoni daze dakazivaet shto rodina etoi grupi v Armenie. Indo-Evropeiski jazik eto I est kavkazki. A Ibero-kavkazki ne sushestvuet eto pridumal adin Gruzinski uchoni no dakazatelstvo neto. Lingvisti ne preznaut eto kak grupu.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
a nashot iazikov povtariau shto, Gruzinski iazik eto iz ibero-kavkazskoi semi,chego ne poniatno,korni chechenskogo, ingushskogo,nekotorix dagistanskix iazikov i takje cherkeskogo odni,u nix odno proisxojdenie i potom prosto rozvevalis otdelna i sformirovalis kak otdelnie iziki,no iz odnoi semi.osobenno vostochno kavkazskie i gruzinski iazik sami rodstvennie drug-drugu,v tom chisle i kroviu.starie slova i korni mnogix slov odni kotorie potom po raznomu razvevalis. daje sam mengrelski i osobeno...
zviadan 3 years ago
PeopleOfAr - axper i oxota tebe stolko pisat:) Kak deti.
Kakaya raznica yazik, geogrficheskoe polojenie,kto silnei,kto umnei,kto krasivei:) Kajdi ostaetsa pri svoem"samom pravilnom mnenie" Y vsex y nas odna "doroga",a tam budem otvechat ne za nacionalnost,a za pastupki.
Kstati gde mojno posmatret etot film???
giorgipanj 3 years ago
da brat ti prav, no eto vso propaganda. Poka mi zivom semei sobludaem est ludi kotorie den i noch rabotaut na tom shtob izmenit mir tak kak im vigodno. Ja zil v Abxazie otlichno s Gruzinami, Armanami, Abkhazami, Grekami, Evreami, Ruskimi i tak dalie no den prishol i tanki po moei ulitse proezali. Strelali v nas na mor porte. Vot togda vso jasno stalo. Poka mi sedim doma zanemaemsa drugimi delami est ludi kotorie ispolzujut nas i manipulirujut tak shtob mi nenavidili drug drugo a oni kaifovali.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
a to shto armian nado ubivat ia vapshe i ne upomenal, tak shto nado bilo luchshe viisnet vse i potom svoi otsenki stavit. U menia zdes v Tbilisi 30% iz samix blizkix druzei armiani mestnie, poddelnik u menia armenin po svoim delam i on toje odin iz moix luchshix druzei, i ia ego esli shto ot lubogo gruzina ili drugova zasheshu kak ostolnix moix gruzin budu zasheshat, moi lichni doktor armenin da i eshe i v samoi armenii est druzia, i daje neskolko let nazad daje lubimaia jenshena u menia bila...
zviadan 3 years ago
Esli ti v Tbilisi zivosh pachemu tvoi bukvi latinskie?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
a nasha armia tex opolchentsev za nedeliu na svoe mesto postavila a potom uje voshli ruskie i koroche.... sam znaesh, krov lilas dolgo, vot eslibi ne ruskie to togda jilibi vse v edinoi gruzii mirno i po bratski, takje kak vse natsii jivut kak odna semia v Tbilisi i ne bilobi stolko krovi i problem, no kogda rosia rozvaletsa togda i vse uladetsa i v Gruzii vmeste abxazii i osetii, i v chechne i v ingushetii i po vsemu kavkazu budet mir. a mi ne nesem krovi, eto kogda drugaia strana vxodit ....
zviadan 3 years ago
Armenians, and a Georgian.. some Russians.. feast..? you forgot jewish! bad movie, bad translation. probably another anti-Russian anti-Armenian propaganda film.
anticwar 3 years ago
Ya uvazaju Gruzin bolshe chem kakovo to drogovo naroda, bolshe chem Ruskix i Grek. Ya viros s Gruzinomi v Suxumi no tot kto ka mne s voinoi idot tot moi vrag i puskai bizit on. A etot film chisti pidaras prastetutka kakoita zdelal. Xuinu pokazivaut ...Gruzin Gruzin ubivaet... eto shto durast gde Gruzin Gruzin ubivaet? Kakoita Gandon pridumal. Ja evo rot ibal. Mozet xvatit xuinoi zanematsa? Ili van Gruzinam nravetsa vinit kavoto krainevo za oshibki vashix fashistof politikof?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
A chesno skazat mne poxuya istoricheski kak kavo shetjesh ti. Esli tak govorit to mi vse ne kovkaztsi mi togda vse iz Afriki. Chem ti bolshe kavkazets chem ya? Ti dolshe zevosh na kavkaze ili shto? Skazi mne...? Za to shto vi kopiruite Cerkes patomu bolshe kavkaztsi? Mne poxua kak vi shetaite ya govoru tot kto zivot na kavkaze i po kavkaskim zakonam tot kavkazets. Ya uvazaju vse kavkazkie narodi, no kto na mena napadaet ya ego pizdu kak v sukhumi ya pizdil gruzinskix banditof.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
a kto v apxazii protiv gruzin voeval, bolshenstvo iz nix v grobax shias lejat, sam xorosho znaesh esli ti tam bil....
zviadan 3 years ago
Vo pervix ni kto iz nas Arman v Abkhazie protev Gruzin ne dralsa. Mi dralis tolko shtob zasheshat nashi doma. Vashi banditi napali na nas ne mi na was. Me ne napadali na Tbilisi mi ne dralis protev Gruzinskovo naroda, mi dralis protev banditov katorie napali na nashi doma. Mi poterali vso shto imel iza etoi voini. Ne komu iz nas vigoda ne bila i nekogda ne budet. Tot kto natsianalisticheski krechit tot ne znaet ni xrena. Esli ti poderzivaesh etu agresiu i apladiruesh smerti Arman to ti baran.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
slushi ti! ia tebe ne oskorblial, eto ne po kavkazski oskorbliat kogoto tut po internetu, esli shto v lico nado govorit, tak shto ne smei mne govorit shto esli ia poderjivaiu to ili eto togda ia baran, ponial? !!! eslli xochesh idi i v lico govori, no shias ne budu oslojniat tut na You-Tube eti rozgovori kak baba, no nadeius shto ti poemesh shto v etom ti oshibsa! A esli ne ochen iasno to shto ia napisal to konkretnee skaju shto te kto protiv Gruzin voevali, absolutnoe bolshenstvo v grobax lijat
zviadan 3 years ago
ja ne v chom ne oshibsa i ne kovo ne oskarblal ja skazal ESLI ti ix poderzivaesh, i ja skazu eto mnogo raz eto mojo mnenie. No ja teba ne oskarblal ja shto skazal kasaetsa vsem kto poderzivaut voini. Esli net to eto tebe ni kasaetsa tak shto nechego obizatsa. Podozritelno mne to shto ti podumal shto tebe kasaetsa. Ti dosexpor mne ne skazal shto ti imesh vedu shto te kto protiv Gruzin voevali, absolutnoe bolshenstvo v grobax lijat Shto eto xorosho ili prosto napomnit mene? Ja ne ponal
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
chego podozritelnogo? ti mne pisal i mne eto skazal shto ia eto esli ia tak dumaiu, tak shto doljen bil snachalo viesnit a potom otsenivat, chego ne ponial? a to shto kto protiv gruzin oriujiem poedet tot i v grobe budet lejat, ia imeiu vvedu narod a ne banditov. a abxazia nasha zemlia i tam abxazskie opolchenie kogda nachinalis poetomu i prishli nashi soldati shtobi naladit tam teritorialnuiu tselosnost, prosto iz za togdashnoi vremeni mnogo band toje poshli tam...
zviadan 3 years ago
A pomoimu ja staboi uze razgovarival ti zevosh v Belgie?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
...kak i Tbilisi i nashi tam za svoiu zemliu voevali i iz za togdashnoi xaoticheskoi vremeni tam mnogo raznix vsiakix band sobralis. A vena vsemu etomu ebanni Kreml, kotori prinioes na kavkaze tolko voini i protivostoianie i destabilizatsiu i k neshastiu mnogo preddanix sebe rabov tam nashli na kotorix oni pologaiutsa, no so vremenem rosiiu vitesnem iz kavkaza, vot skoro v Ingushetii nachnutsa eshe protevostaianie, potom v Chechne, v Dagistane da i vmeste s Gruzii shag za shagom osvobodim kavkaz
zviadan 3 years ago
Shto eto oznochaet osvobodim kavkaz? Eto znachet Ossetiu i Abxaziu zaxvatite? Eto svaboda? Ja Armenin no Abxazia eto moja rodina, ja za drugix Arman ni mogu govorit no mi budem zasheshat nash dom protev luboi agressii. vmeste s Gruzii shag za shagom osvobodim kavkaz Vashi shagi do sexpor krome krovi i boli ne imeut resultat. Shtoza shagi ti xochesh? Bolshe voini? Kak v Tbilisi praznik bil kakda uslishali napadaut na Ossetiu?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
...v tvoiu stranu orujiem shtob otniat u tebia zemli togda i prexoditsa vstrechat mechom. pust mirno vozvrashaiutsa v sostav Gruzii kak i bilo vsegda i ne budet nekokoi krovi, i vmeste budem pit vino i tantsevat pod sladkim dudukom.... a poka vrag na moei zemle ia vinujden vsegda gotovitsa k oborone... vopshem rosiia tut problema, eto ono sozdalo vse eti kavkazskie konflikti i emu eto s ruk ne soedet. vot rosiia obvinaet gruziu v genocid osetin potomushto v avguste mi ubili 800osetinskix omoncev
zviadan 3 years ago
I k state vi toze imeite mnogo obshevo s Indo-Evropeiskimi jazikami. Many Georgian postpositions correspond to the meanings of prepositions in English. Each postposition requires the modified noun to be in a specific case. (This is similar to prepositions governing specific cases in many Indo-European languages such as German, Latin, Russian, and so on.)
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Nash jazik ponatno no vot wash vopshem i ne jasno kakoi semeistvo.
Vasha ibero-Caucasian klasifikatsia jazika ne shetaetsa nastojashei i ne dakazeno shto ana daze sushestvuet. Patomushto vash jazik daze i ne semeistvo drugix Kavkazkix jazikof. On odelni , i ne kasaetsa Abkhaskomu, Cerkeskim i tak dalie....
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Gruzinski iazik eto iz ibero-kavkazskoi semi,chego ne poniatno,korni chechenskogo, ingushskogo,nekotorix dagistanskix iazikov i takje cherkeskogo odni,u nix odno proisxojdenie i potom prosto rozvevalis otdelna i sformirovalis kak otdelnie iziki,no iz odnoi semi.vot esli neskolkix bratiev s detstvo po raznim mestam ostavit otdelno jit,oni v techenii ix jizni po raznomu budut razvevatsa no koren budet vseteki odin,da i osobenno k chechenskomu i ingushskomu, avarskomu i eshe nekot. ochen poxoji...
zviadan 3 years ago
Mi kak zasheshali svoi dom tak i budem. Daze esli Ruskie napoidut na Tbilisi Armani tam budut dratsa! Ja toze dumal shto semeistvo Gruzinskogo jazika odno s drugimi kavkazkimi, no vot ja chital i ponjal shto eto ni tak. Gruzinski ne semeistvo kavkazkix jazikov i ibero-kavkazkaja grupa daze i ne sushestvuet eto pridumka. No koneshno ja v zizne ne skazu Gruzin ne kavkazets, patomushto vi zevote v Kavkaze, no vot mnogie Gruzini govorat shto mi Armani ne kavkaztsi eto falshivno i ja vsem dakazu.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
...rodom iz Karabaxa, prosto iz za geograficheskoi prichini tolko v Armenii mojem vstrechatsa i sama toje bila v Tbilisi. Toje samoe drujba u menia est i s Azerbaijantsami i s Dagistantsami i s Chechentsami, evrei ... vopshem v Gruzii mi vse svoii tut. a te banditi kotorie grabili tvoi dom, oni takje i Gruzin grabeli, tam bilo mnogo banditov potomushto bil xaos, i krome Gruzinskoi armii tam vsiakie podrozdilenie bili kotorie grabejami zanemalis, no ne vse koneshno,a tak Abxazia takaije Gruzia...
zviadan 3 years ago
Ti znaesh mne ne vazno kokumu gosudarstvo ja plachu nalog. Mne daze net problema esli Abxazia bila bi v sostave Gruzii. No pochemu voinoi nado bilo? Pochemu venite vsegda Russiu? Vit Gruzini zashli s patronami. Ja ne znaju kovo venit eto slishkom sikretno vso. Narod vsoravno kak baran nas obmanut. No kto na mena idot s ruziom puskai on bezit silno patomushto mi ne zdaomsa. V etom mire est ludi kotorie lubat voinu i te kto xotat pokoi. Vibirai kto ti. Shto gochesh krov ili vino? Oba ne poidot.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
"A recent study (Gray & Atkinson) that applied the statistical tools used in timing genetic evolution to the lexical evolution of Indo-European languages strongly implied that the Indo-European homeland indeed appears to be in Asia Minor, and Armenian language (hence a well-defined group speaking it) split from it (along with Greek) at around 5300 BC, and split from Greek shortly thereafter."
No kakaja bi versia nebila bi , vse govorat shto eto mesto bilo ochen blisko k Kavkazu.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Drugaja teoria shto eto mesto severnaja Anatolia, I esho odna versia shto nachalo Indo-Evropeskogo yazika eto v Armenie. Kakraz vot eta poslednaja versia bila sozdana Gruzinskim uchonim poi mini Tamaz Gamkrelidze. "In 1984, it was suggested by Thomas Gamkrelidze and Vyacheslav V. Ivanov that the Proto-Indo-European homeland is located in the Armenian Highland."
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
gamkrelidze i ivanov rabotali dlia kgb, krasni uchioni
armenian highlad is where Noah came down, so everyone comes from there, but indo-evropean langiuage was formed only after the collapse of babylonian tower, until everyone spoke one language!!!
213HERERRA 2 years ago
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PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
Ok let me start with this. You are correct about the term Caucasian maybe falsely used by Americans. BUT it is not based on hot air, it is based on theory that all white men and woman emerge from the Caucasian plateau and this theory is not bogus. Its a theory but its not bullshit. Indo-European home is placed by every theory in or around Caucasus. Look into it.
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
But before I go on you need to understand that Indo-European, Kartvelian or any other classification are linguistic designations NOT genetic. One can be indigenes Caucasian but speak a foreign language. This said you are wrong about the Babylon tower. The final beginning of the end of the tower of Babel probably began around 478 BC. The city had been taken over by the Persian King Xerxes who crushed a rebellion there that year.
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
The tower was neglected and crumbled . the earliest attested Indo-European language however is the language of Hittite language. This language was spoken from approximately 1800 BC (and probably before) to 1100 BC. As you can see waaayyyyy before the fall of Babylon. So your statement that Indo-European language was formed after the collapse of the tower of Babel is FALS!
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
Besides all of this the ancient Armenian language of Urartu was NOT Indo-European. It was Hurro-Urartian and believed to arrive from the Caucasus. Armenian language is not related to any other Indo-European. Our language is considered a separate branch. This shows that our language has been separated from others for a long time. Showing that we have been living in one place for a long time. All Caucasian languages are relatively separated.
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
This is about Kartvelian:No relationship with other languages, not even with the North Caucasian languages, has been demonstrated so far, due to the lack of sound correspondences between the South and North Caucasian families.
There is no scientific basis besides nationalistic once to assume that Armenians are not indigenous to Kavkaz. Armenian traces in Caucasus are older or as old as any other Caucasian people. And last but not least I SHIT ON EVERYONE WHO SAIS ARMENIANS ARE NOT CAUCASIANS!
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago 3
@PeopleOfAr lets say that I even agree on what you say.... please define caucasus for me, from geographical and social perspective. Armenians gepgraphicly are nowhere close to caucasus chain of mountain. As a matter of fact your homeland lays right on the Ararat mountain chains. However, Armenians are considered caucasians from social perspective because their culture is, some what, related to other caucasian cultures.
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid as much as any region can possibly be defined as a region, Caucasus has been geographically defined by specialists to include North Caucasian lands, Georgia, Azerbaijan AND modern day Armenia. Open the atlas and see for yourself. For as long as history actually been recorded Armenian presence in and around the area has been recorded with it. Tigranes the Great from before the birth of Christ governed a huge region of south Caucasus together with most of modern Georgian lands.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid And the land of Azerbaijanis. The ancient people living on what is now known as Azerbaijan are called CAUCASIAN Albanians. Those people lived on the same latitude as the Armenian people. You suppose they should retain their title but Armenians should not be called Caucasian? The Caucasian region is not defined by the Caucasus mountains.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid Listen I am not debating the name of the geographic area, I am merely stating whether people like it or not Armenians have been recorded to live on their lands for a very long time. And since the area is known as Caucasus, that is who they are just like Moroccans are Africans and Indians Asians.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid If you want to debate whether the area of Armenian presence should be called Caucasus or not, you should take it up with the cartographers, Geographers and other such specialists. But as I am making my case I am speaking about the area that is defined by science and understood by most as Caucasus or to be precise South Caucasus if you wish. My point is Armenian presence in the area that is considered Caucasus today has been prominent and well known.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid But sure if your case is that Armenians are Anatolian people I would also not object as Armenians lived on the crossroads of Anatolia, Mid-East and Caucasus. We do not claim to posses the Caucasus mountains or Georgian land or what ever. My point is a lot of Caucasian peoples that are considered as such had very little of their history recorded in the area while that of the Armenians is well known.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr You say caucasian peoples that are considered as such had very little of their history recorded in the area while that of the Armenians is well known. Lol Georgia has as much history (if not more) recorded of their presence in caucasus as Armenians or as any other old civilisations who have maintined their integrity until this day. Caucasus itself derives from Georgian (svan ) word, caucas, which means the lightning. Theory states that they named the mountain caucas due to its shape.
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid Still because of politics and because Armenians retaining their cultural uniqueness in stead of assimilating to that of the north Caucasus (like most), some hostile people wish Armenians do not belong to the region. Which is absurd and the opposite of truth. The entire word Caucasus is from ancient Armenian and Georgian chronicles. We are all children of Togarmah
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr You are wrong when saying that Armenia has the oldest presence in the region. The oldest states of Caucasus was the Colchian, Iberian, and Urartuian civilisations. When talking about Azerbaijans, they are not the decendents of old Caucasian albanians who inhabited those lands all those time ago. Real albanians are Udins, look it up in the dictionary. They are real decendants of aincent Albenians and still speack the old Albanian language
losdruid 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr You are mixing two thing into one another by saying that Armenia belongs to Caucasian region. That term is too broad and depends on what do you mean by that. Georgaphically thats false, socially it is right. If you took time to read my comment you would have understood what I ment when I was typing it. Nobody argues About armenian historical presence in the region that is now known as Armenia. However weither if the region is caucasus or not thats different story.
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid btw. the Caucasian mountains actually do include Armenia. The Caucasus Mountains is a mountain system in Eurasia.. Theyincludes the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range and the Lesser Caucasus Mountains. Armenia belongs to the lesser Caucasus mountain range. The mountain range extends into Armenia and southwestern Azerbaijan. Some of the prominent peaks of the region include Mt. Aragats and Kapudzhukh (Armenia).
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
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losdruid 11 months ago
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@PeopleOfAr @PeopleOfAr first of all caucasus mountains do not include Armenia.... Caucasus region does.... those are two different things and should not be mixed. if you took time to carefully read my comment you would have understand my point. Second of all, nobody argues that Armenians are not from the region where they live right now but on the other hand if that region belongs to caucasus or not is debatable from different points of view.
losdruid 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr When you are talking about historical presence and compare it to north caucasus, its useless. Mainly because north caucasus, eventhough all those years of existance, never had written language and was always devided in numerous tribes. The only unified kingdoms with records in the region are Georgia and Armenia (used to be Albania too but now their civilisation is now gone). The first records about North caucasians comes from Georgian anals and its from early midlle centuries
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid first of all I did not say Armenia has the oldest presence. Note that nowhere I write that Armenian recorded history dates before that of Georgians. I haven't expressed my opinion on that question. And I agree that oldest known civilizations in the region are Urartu and Colchis, but not Iberia. Iberia was recorded around 300 BC, Armenia around 600 BC. But don't get me wrong I do not doubt that Georgians are ancient Caucasian people with a well recorded history! I would not claim that.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid I only say Armenian recorded history dates earlier than that of many so called indigenous Caucasians (I said 'some', not all), while they are considered Caucasians some hostile people claim Armenians not to be as such. That was my argument. And I do not claim Armenians have more records of the ancient times than Georgians do, again I did not express my opinion on that question. If only you would read my comments carefully... ;)
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid Secondly I do agree about the Azerbaijanis not being Albanians. I know about the Udis people. I brought forth the example of Albanians to illustrate their geographic settlement which corresponds to the same latitude Armenians occupy. Thus I wander why from a geographical point of few consider Albanians Caucasian but not the Armenians?
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr As for the Geography, ok I will recheck my referances just in case but as far as I know 70 percent of caucasian mountain Chain is located in Georgia (including 3 out of 4 of its highest peacks).
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid Finally, I do not mix two things with one another. Geographically Armenia is considered Caucasus, look in the Atlas it's a FACT! I quote: "Republic of Armenia is a landlocked mountainous country in the Caucasus region." You cannot say it is debatable just like you cannot say it is debatable whether Zimbabwe is Africa or not. If you want to debate this issue you should debate it with the geographers and cartographers. Because according to them Armenia belongs to the Caucasian region.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr The only people who try to exclude Caucasian term not just from Armenians but also from Georgians and even from Vainakhs are Circassians. Lol they think that they are the only caucasians on the face of the earth while the earliest record of them even existing comes from Georgian anals in 5th century. You are wrong about Iberia though. Iberia and colchis was amost one the same thing. the oldest records about colchis state tibers (iberians) were one of the 12 Colchian tribes in caucas
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid So again, I did not say Georgia was any less a Caucasian nation than Armenia. I did not say Georgia has no recorded history or less recorded history... In fact I did not say anything bad about Georgia or Georgian people. I have no bad feelings towards Georgian people. Even though I am from Abkhazia I actually respect Georgians. The only thing that bothers me is that while geographically Armenia is defined as Caucasus, some hostile people claim we do not “belong”to “their” region.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
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losdruid 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr here is a thing. when you decide to be someone, you can be it. For example: Basques live all the way in Iberian penisula of Spain but they identify themselves as caucasians who were one of the earliest migration waves that struck the Europe. Point I am making is that, no one cant exclaim you from being caucasian if you know you are. its as simple as that. Like I said, socialy speacking , Armenians are caucasians as far as the term goes.
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid I understand what you say. But you made one flaw initially thinking that Armenia is geographically not considered to lay within the Caucasus, because that is the case. Indeed Armenia is geographically considered Caucasus it is within every atlas, on the internet in Google maps and even Wikipedia. When you search for Caucasus region you will see Armenia is always there.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid But About Iberia I did not know this could you direct me to a source? Am not critical just curious. Because what I read when search for Iberia. I find that this name was only recorded for the first time in 302 BC. In the Etymology section it states that is actually from the Armenian name:
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid “…theory on the etymology of the name Iberia, proposed by Giorgi Melikishvili, was that it was derived from the Armenian designation for Georgia, Virkʿ (Armenian: Վիրք, and Ivirkʿ [Իվիրք] and Iverkʿ. Accordingly, in following Ivane Javakhishvili's theory, the ethnic designation of "Sber", a variant of Sver, was derived the word "Hber" ("Hver") (and thus Iberia) and the Armenian variants, Ver and Vir. “
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid Since we are talking about the etymology, could you please tell me where the name for Armenians (Somexi) comes from? I know that is how Georgians call us, but I never know what it really means and why they call us as such. Because No one ells calls us like that most call us Armenians, Ermeni, Armenoi, etc... but no one calls us anything close to Somexi. What does that mean do you know? Maybe it means something..
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@PeopleOfAr They identified Armenians as relatives of Meskhi and therefore somekhi (meaning people like meskhs) came into use. But it is very debatable because meskhs did not only live in todays meskhet-javakheti but also in modern day abkhazia as well... they were the oldest inhabitants of the abkhazia
losdruid 11 months ago
@losdruid yes I heard of this theory of Mushki. There was a book I read about Armenians it stated they are related to Moschoi. But I’m not so sure about that. Anyway thanks for the explanation. Very strange that in Wikipedia when one searches for "Caucasian Iberia" under etymology there is no such explanation about Colkhian tribe of Iberians.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
@losdruid Btw. I also have a theory for why we call you the way we do. I always thought we called you "Veratsi" because you live above us geographically, as the word “Vera” is from "Verev" means “above”. And "-tsi" is to illustrate that they are one people. Just like Amerikanatsi, Germanatsi and Holandatsi. Or because you are highlanders who live on “high” (upper) grounds. But I don’t know it’s just my theory, according to wikipedia it is because of Virk or Verk, Iveria/Iberia.
PeopleOfAr 11 months ago
Indo-European eto termin sam i govorit ochom zdes rech. Indo-Europa eto mestnost mezdu Indiei i Evropoi. A tam vot kak ras i Kavkaz. Kavkaz naxodetsa mezdu Indiei i Evropoi , drevnie ludi kak Armani katorie govorili etot jazik raspostronili ego iz kavkaza na zapod (evropa) i vostok (india , Iran...).
Est nekatorie teorii pro mesto nachalo etoi grupi (Indo-Evropeskix) yazikov. Odna teoria govorit shto eto mesto severni kavkaz.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Gruzia i kavkaz vsegda schitaetsia i pishetsia "ni-indoevropesikii" !!!
kavkaz eto kavkaz!! tam jivut aborigeni i avtoxtoni!! tak bilo vsia evropa , vse jili tam aborigeni evropeci , no potom elini i indo-evropeici prishli i asimilirovali !!! no est nacii ludi v sicilie, v venecie, albanie, sardinie, kto esho ni indoevropeici i aborigeni !!
213HERERRA 2 years ago
Vo perwix Indo-European eto lingvisticheskaja klasifikatsia (semeistvo yazikof) a ni biologicheskaja. Za to shto mi govorim na Indo-Evropeiskom jazike eto ne oznochaet shto mi toze shetaeimsa biologicheski Indo Evropeitsi. Azeri bolshenstvo kavkaztsi no govorat po Turetski (Alataiski).
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
net, eto rasa . azer tatari turki, no Udi i Albani - chistie kavkazci, i govoriat Udi iazik, ni azeri. no est bolshaya asimilacia toje
213HERERRA 2 years ago
Indo-Evropeitsi eto I est Kavkaztsi. Patomo v Amerike na belovo cheloveka iz Evropi govorat "Caucasian". Nashi sledi v kavkaze drevnei mnogix kotorie seba nazivaut kavkaztsemi. Ja sechas tebe obesnu pro Indo-Evropeskuju kategoriu nashevo jazika.
Podchti vse evropeiskie jaziki prenadlezat k grupe indo-European. A pochemu Indo, patomushto v drevnei Indie ixni drevni jazik "Sanskrit" ochen poxoz na Evropeiski. I v ixnix legendax napisono shto eto bil jazik svetlix ludei, shto oni prenesli im.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
net, dorogoi, kavkazec ni Indo-evropiec. pochemu v amerike beli chelovek nazivatesia kavkiazec, eto tolko iz 18 ovo veka, i potomushto eto krasivaia imia. i prachitai knigu "why white people are called caucasian" (available on internet in PDF) u , i eto oshibka, potomushto kavkazec prosto geneticheski ni indo-evropiec, potom uznali i etot nauka 18 veka uzhe ni prav. i dzlia tvoi informacii, American National Library rejected the term "Caucaisan" in favour of term "European" in 2006 (?)
213HERERRA 2 years ago
Ti pitux mi Bagramyan dralis za swoi dom.Ti kavo sukoi naziwaesh? Vashi banditi zaxodili v moi dom, shto nam delat ne zashishat nash dom? Ti zapomni mi Armani vsegda budem zasheshat nashix detei i zenshin.Mi vsegda tak delali i budem delat.Armani v Gruzie dralis protev Arman v Abkhazie patomushto kazdi iz nas za svoi dom derotsa.Tak shto ti zatkni past ubludok poka ne znaesh kak s uvazeniem obroshatsa. A tak kak ti razgovarivaesh ti ne Kavkazets ti pitux. Kavkazets tot kto seba vedot po kavkazki
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
da suki, prostix gruzinam tam vi ubili i domi unichtojili, k abxazam prinesli, segodnia jivioite v gruzinskix domax i sprosite avtonimiu
uuuuuux vash krov nada vipit !!!
213HERERRA 2 years ago
mi znaem i vspominamem chto mnogie tbilisskie armiani drali v abxaziae, i sam zatknis suka mi o nem ne govorim, no chto vi i bagramiani zdelali gruzinam tam ab etom nikto ni zamalchit ubliudak !!!! tolko jit v kavkaze eto ne bit kavkazec, vi , osetini, kozaki i drugie ni-kavkazcvi izvestnie putanki i u vas net chisti kavkazskii krov , vi INDO-EVROPEICI !!! Gruzini, Vainakhi, i malo drugie - vot kavkazskii krov, serdca, dux i xarakter nastoiashii - sprasi em
213HERERRA 2 years ago
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PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
ti monarxist etot film talkuyesh tak kak tebe nravitsa...tam armyani gruzina ni derjut kak plenni-on svobodni chelovek...plennika ne puskayut guliat po selu svobodno i suka bliat eto tvoya mama chto rodila takogo pridurka kak ti...
ARMYANE ETO KRUTO!!!
ARMYANE ETO KLASS!!!
KTO NE LYUBIT NAS
TOT POLUCHET V GLAZ NA XUI...
Tigranin 3 years ago
"i monarxist etot film talkuyesh tak kak tebe nravitsa...tam armyani gruzina ni derjut kak plenni-on svobodni chelovek..." ti toje tak govorish - tphu naxui
213HERERRA 2 years ago
esli net to zatknite svoi pasti vi sukini deti
Tigranin 3 years ago
Koroche kto k armyanam imeyet pritenzii-pust realno snimi spravitsa ei vi internetovskie 'mujchini' tot kotori snial etot film bolshoi obijnik...naschet BAGRAMYANA on zashishal svoyu rodinu-gde on rodilsya...vo vtoroi mirovoi mnogie armyani kotorie jili zdes vo Francii toje sobralis, organizovali partizanskie brigadi i voevali protiv fashistov-oni zashishali svoyu rodinu-toest Franciu pridurki...toje samoe i Bagramyan,ya jivu vo Francii gorod Metz yest kto sredi vas kotori xochet vstretitsa?
Tigranin 3 years ago
daje blatuyut zdes eti suki neshasni!!!!
213HERERRA 3 years ago
Tigranin posmotri na svoego sootechestvennika - terrorist nastoyashiy.kto kto no gruzini nikogda ne bili predatelyami,v otlichii ot vas.ti posmotri etot film.armyane derjali gruzina v plenu,xoteli obmenyat ego potom,no obrashalis s nim na BRAT BRAT,suki blya
Monarchist111 3 years ago
kto gruzinam xudo mislit tot minja xui svistnit
nikusha011 3 years ago 2
ქარტველებზე ცუდის მთქმელის დედას შევეცი მეეეეე მოუტყან დედის ტრაკი
nikusha011 3 years ago 3
Gandoni, kunem hayastani mamat!
WarrioRDFB 3 years ago
putishestvia v karabax
gio7777777777777 3 years ago
film nazivaeca "pragulka v karabaxe" vrode tak
gio7777777777777 3 years ago
jakobiguza: a kogda eti armyane voevali protiv gruzin v abxazskoy voyne xorosho bilo??togda oni ne bili nashimi bratyami??otryad "Bagramyan" dlya utochneniya.dvulichnie lyudi,v eto filme pokazano kak oni derjali gruzin v plenu,chtob obmenyat ix potom!a vrali im chto gruzini ix bratya!da komu vi vrete? "TRIP TO KARABAKH" nazivayetsya film!posmotrite vse!
Monarchist111 3 years ago
ti nexuja ne znaesh o Bagramyan. Ja Armenin iz Abxazii. Mi dralis ni protev Gruzin i ne za Abxaz mi zashshali svoi doma ot banditov. A vi tam v Tbilisi prazdnik ustroili kogda nas rezali. Vi xot znaite shto vashi banditi tam delali? Esli baltaesh to uznai pravdu sperva. Mi vzali oruzea v ruku shtobi nashi deti i zoni bili v bezopasnasti. Esli na nas Ruskie napaidut v Tbilisi mi vazmom oruzia takze zasheshat Tbilisi protev bantitov. Xvatit zdes vrazdebnuju propagandu vesti.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
chto sukka?!!!! BAGRAMIAN PRTIV GRUZINOV NE VAEVAL?? I DAJE GRUZINI ZASHISHALI?? DA??!! TPU.. . , YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REMEMBER EVERYTHING, JUST SHUT UP, NO NEED FOR IT
213HERERRA 3 years ago
etot film pokazivayet truslivix azerbaranov, predatela gruzina i velikodushnix armyan...peremotai i smotri esho raz pridurok
Tigranin 3 years ago
suka! etot film pokazivaet kak u armianov est gruzin v plen realno i govoriat "brat-jan" !!!! i "veliko-dushni armyan"... idi naxui suka tvouy tigraninskuyu mamu ebal
213HERERRA 3 years ago
KAK NAZIVAETSYA ETOT FIL'M?
ervandsarkisyan 3 years ago
Armenini toze Kavkaszi i Bratja nashi. Ne nada Wrasdi Bratja, ne nada radavaz Rassiu. Wez ani etava i dabivajutsja. Ani sasdawajut spezialnie spezialnie Gruppi, katorie tolka nad etim i rabotajut... Aznuza nada,wi zo ne panimaize eta ?!U wsex jest,i plaxie i xaroshie
jakobiguza 3 years ago