@THERAPTURECOMES In Matt 5:17, Jesus assures us that He did not come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. In verse 19, He states that we are not only to obey the law but we are to teach it also. Despite the clear instructions of Jesus that we are not only to OBEY the law but we are to TEACH it also, there are those that not only do not teach the law but they teach the law has ended and even severely condemn and criticize those that do teach the law.
@THERAPTURECOMES Gal 5 is not talking about God's Ten Commandment Law it is talking about the law of circumcision. Those certain Jews who professed to follow Jesus came and said, “you know what, what Paul said was good, you must accept Jesus as your Saviour, but you also need to be circumcised to receive salvation.” Paul showed them wrong as Scripture has shown you wrong. Those who are saved keep the 10 Commandments God's Law.
Does Walter believe that Ellen G White was a prophet? And does he go by her teaching? The reason why I'm asking is I like Walter, but I do not believe that Ellen White was a prophet, and I know that SDA refers to her teaching as the gospel.
@busaboo Read the message of Sister White and don`t worry so much about all the critques against her, I mean.. if you focus on the negative you will miss so many wonderful messages that will help inspire you to study more the Bible. Even with the Bible, there will always be room to doubt if that is what you want, but look at what is going on in the world now and use "super glue" and get fixed on Christ and His Character =)
Lazarus and the rich man is a parable!!! You cannot build a doctrine on a parable. I’ll give you an example - Judges 9:7-15 The trees are talking to each other – Is this true? 2 Kings 14:9 is another example (do thistles and cedars have children?) What about Able’s blood crying from the ground? Literal? (Gen 4:10,11)
This parable was given to rebuke the Pharisees for their covetousness. They thought riches were a mark of God’s favor.
didnt ellen g white say angel michael is jesus? No church is the only way. They dont keep the commands for instance the name of Yahuwah and Yahushua Messiah. Jesus and god is not Their names.
Ellen White never said Jesus was an Angel-- She said He is the Son of God. Michael is another name for Jesus before the incarnation. but Jesus is not an angel He is God.
@garyzw How do you get that?Since jesus is a greek/latin name derived from the goddess of healing called "ieso" make it masculine by adding "us" so it is iesous, taken over to latin it became iesus. And after 1600's when the J was added to the English alphabet it became Jesus. Michael is originally Hebrew in origen and means who is like EL.Our Saviour's name would mean salvation in Hebrew Matt 1:21 and He also came in His Father's name John 5:43 which is Yahuwah.Combined it is YAHUshua
YAHUshua is simply Jesus' Hebrew name--His name in English is Jesus. Like in Spanish John is Juan. You are making a mountian out of a mole hill with the name issue. Michael does means who is like God--but who is like God other then Jesus? Michael = “who is like God” Arch = “chief” Angel = “messenger from God.” Michael the Archangel is a messenger of God who is like unto God Himself.
I have a question no offense to SDA followers,why do SDA think they are the only church of GOD.Where in the bible says that?We are all children of GOD ,no man will ever fulfill the 10 commandments.Only Jesus was able to fulfill the commandments.Following the sabbath is not the only commandment,every day we sin and break the commandments.You can not judge a man for not following the Sabbath ,look at the speck of your eye your other sins are as bad as not following the sabbath.
The Bible says God's Church consists of those that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12. That being said Salvation is only by faith in Christ-- we keep the Commandments because we are saved not to be saved. Yes there are 9 other Commandments besides the Sabbath.
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phil 4:13
That includes keeping the 10 Commandments right? Any Christian who keeps the commandments of God, and has the faith of Jesus-- is part of God's Church whether they are SDA or not.
@THERAPTURECOMES The Law is not bondage. Scripture says "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1John 5:3
@garyzw Are you speaking of the ten commandments when you say this? Is this not SDA double speak? You say in one breath that the law does not save and then in the very next breath say that if you don't keep the law you are not saved.
Please explain this failing of exegesis on your part?
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1John 5:2-3
@THERAPTURECOMES You really need to do a through study of Scripture. You are taking it out of context and reading into it false teachings. I have provided you with ample Scripture to refute your argument and you present no Scripture to back up what you say but rather given your opinion, I go by Scripture not man's opinion,
@THERAPTURECOMES Do we break the law because we are no longer under the law? God forbid. The only way to be under the law is to break the law. When you break the law willingly you bring yourself under it’s condemnation. This is why Paul says “God forbid”. We are no longer under the law, or under sin, or under it’s condemnation. Why?
Because Jesus Christ took the condemnation for us.
“Michael signifies, "Who is like God," and his name, with the title of "the great Prince," points out the Divine Saviour. Christ stood for the children of our people in their stead as a sacrifice, bore the curse for them, to bear it from them. He stands for them in pleading for them at the throne of grace. A..” –Matthew Henry’s Commentary on Daniel 12:1-4
@katpiering123 MIKAEL or Michael means "who is like God" if you read in the bible you will see countless times where Michael revealed himself as Yahusha or Yahuah. I was confused by it as well till I actually read my bible for myself :Gen 22:15 And the *angel of the LORD* called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
Gen 22:16 & said, By MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, & hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" notice the claim?? only 1 example
@katpiering123 MIKAEL or Michael means "who is like God" if you read in the bible you will see countless times where Michael revealed himself as Yahusha or Yahuah. I was confused by it as well till I actually read my bible for myself :Gen 22:15 And the *angel of the LORD* called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
Gen 22:16 & said, By MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, & hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" notice the claim?? thats 1 exampl
The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope & vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
@vladimirkovalski"Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan" Paul used the term "hi jack"? "John said the anti christ would rule from ROME"... Where in scripture did he say that?
The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope & vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
@DigitalPraise7 Elohim is a plurality. There at the very beginning of the Bible. It's also blatant throughout the new testament. The "pagan doctrine of the trinity" is a counterfeit of the true Trinity. As is the way Satan always works. Which came first? The pagan trinity or the Biblical Trinity? Elohim was there, written in the Torah, a plurality. In the beginning. I know it's popular to be anti-trinitarian today but I can't see any consistent basis for that viewpoint. Peace my brother. Shalom
It was the SDA church that crucified Jesus, so, prophetically, for it to be the end of time, the SDA church must fully reflect the same SDA church that put Jesus to death. The leaders of the SDA church must fully reflect the same character that the leaders of the SDA church had that crucified Jesus. Does anyone beleive that the leaders of the SDA church have come to the point that they fully reflect the character of the leaders that put Jesus to death?
THERE ARE TWO 'ISRAELS' AMONG SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS TODAY - THE TRUE AND THE FALSE. This latter group, says the Apostle Jude, "are SPOTS in your feasts [Sabbath worship]... clouds without water [empty vessels], carried about of winds [false ideas and sentiments]; trees... without fruit, TWICE DEAD, [only waiting to be] plucked up by the roots." -- Jude 1:12. They are "the foolish virgins," or what we might more properly call 'Club Adventists.'
These 'Club Adventists' God will "spew out of" His mouth (Rev. 3:16). Sister White explains what this means: "The figure of spewing out of His mouth means that He cannot offer up your prayers or your expressions of love to God. He cannot endorse your teaching of His word, or your spiritual work in anywise. He cannot present your religious exercises [to God] with the request that grace be given you." Testimonies, Vol. 6, p.408.
@garyzw Just as well Messiah does the spitting out of individuals from the church via the Holy Spirit; since I don't trust anybody elses mouth with that job.
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886).
Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
[17] Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
Hearken to the message, the trumpet is sounding, WILL WE AS A PEOPLE HEAR IT??
The times of refreshing are upon us, the sprinkling of the latter rain is a message, just as Jesus breathed upon His disciples when He unfolded the scriptures to them after His resurrection:
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
We need to return to the foundations of our faith, the prophetic message, this is the ROCK upon which we were founded, Jesus Christ, the Word of God.
Luke 3:17 and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
The Church is being shaken as we speak, the testing message of the little book, the end time prophetic message, Dan 40-45, it is a test for the people of God.
@THERAPTURECOMES In Matt 5:17, Jesus assures us that He did not come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. In verse 19, He states that we are not only to obey the law but we are to teach it also. Despite the clear instructions of Jesus that we are not only to OBEY the law but we are to TEACH it also, there are those that not only do not teach the law but they teach the law has ended and even severely condemn and criticize those that do teach the law.
garyzw 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES Gal 5 is not talking about God's Ten Commandment Law it is talking about the law of circumcision. Those certain Jews who professed to follow Jesus came and said, “you know what, what Paul said was good, you must accept Jesus as your Saviour, but you also need to be circumcised to receive salvation.” Paul showed them wrong as Scripture has shown you wrong. Those who are saved keep the 10 Commandments God's Law.
garyzw 1 month ago
Does Walter believe that Ellen G White was a prophet? And does he go by her teaching? The reason why I'm asking is I like Walter, but I do not believe that Ellen White was a prophet, and I know that SDA refers to her teaching as the gospel.
busaboo 1 month ago
@busaboo If you like Walter Veith's teachings then you like Ellen White because his teaching are based on her writings
garyzw 1 month ago
@busaboo Read the message of Sister White and don`t worry so much about all the critques against her, I mean.. if you focus on the negative you will miss so many wonderful messages that will help inspire you to study more the Bible. Even with the Bible, there will always be room to doubt if that is what you want, but look at what is going on in the world now and use "super glue" and get fixed on Christ and His Character =)
Mekelsior 1 month ago
@Mekelsior That's like saying "Don't worry about the poison?! False teachers are not of GOD!
Those that teach ANOTHER GOSPEL are DOOMED Gal 1:8-9
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
We need YOU, brothers from SDA Church !!! And You need us! God bless all of us
jerubaal3333 3 months ago
What about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man?? That's immortality of the soul!
supercalifridgelisti 3 months ago
@supercalifridgelisti
Lazarus and the rich man is a parable!!! You cannot build a doctrine on a parable. I’ll give you an example - Judges 9:7-15 The trees are talking to each other – Is this true? 2 Kings 14:9 is another example (do thistles and cedars have children?) What about Able’s blood crying from the ground? Literal? (Gen 4:10,11)
This parable was given to rebuke the Pharisees for their covetousness. They thought riches were a mark of God’s favor.
garyzw 3 months ago
didnt ellen g white say angel michael is jesus? No church is the only way. They dont keep the commands for instance the name of Yahuwah and Yahushua Messiah. Jesus and god is not Their names.
katpiering123 4 months ago
@katpiering123
Ellen White never said Jesus was an Angel-- She said He is the Son of God. Michael is another name for Jesus before the incarnation. but Jesus is not an angel He is God.
garyzw 4 months ago
@garyzw How do you get that?Since jesus is a greek/latin name derived from the goddess of healing called "ieso" make it masculine by adding "us" so it is iesous, taken over to latin it became iesus. And after 1600's when the J was added to the English alphabet it became Jesus. Michael is originally Hebrew in origen and means who is like EL.Our Saviour's name would mean salvation in Hebrew Matt 1:21 and He also came in His Father's name John 5:43 which is Yahuwah.Combined it is YAHUshua
katpiering123 4 months ago
@katpiering123
YAHUshua is simply Jesus' Hebrew name--His name in English is Jesus. Like in Spanish John is Juan. You are making a mountian out of a mole hill with the name issue. Michael does means who is like God--but who is like God other then Jesus? Michael = “who is like God” Arch = “chief” Angel = “messenger from God.” Michael the Archangel is a messenger of God who is like unto God Himself.
garyzw 4 months ago
@garyzw
I have a question no offense to SDA followers,why do SDA think they are the only church of GOD.Where in the bible says that?We are all children of GOD ,no man will ever fulfill the 10 commandments.Only Jesus was able to fulfill the commandments.Following the sabbath is not the only commandment,every day we sin and break the commandments.You can not judge a man for not following the Sabbath ,look at the speck of your eye your other sins are as bad as not following the sabbath.
DjICEbrooklynNYC 2 months ago
@DjICEbrooklynNYC
The Bible says God's Church consists of those that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12. That being said Salvation is only by faith in Christ-- we keep the Commandments because we are saved not to be saved. Yes there are 9 other Commandments besides the Sabbath.
garyzw 2 months ago
@DjICEbrooklynNYC
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phil 4:13
That includes keeping the 10 Commandments right? Any Christian who keeps the commandments of God, and has the faith of Jesus-- is part of God's Church whether they are SDA or not.
garyzw 2 months ago
@garyzw I am free from that law as Christ fulfilled it and my BELIEF UPON Him is what saves and not the LAW
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES Who said the law saves? Law Keeping is the result of salvation not the cause of it.
garyzw 1 month ago
@garyzw Why would you bring yourself under bondage to the law if you have been set free from it by the Death, burial and resurrection of Christ?
If a person whom claims to believe does not follow the law are they even saved?
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES The Law is not bondage. Scripture says "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1John 5:3
garyzw 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:4
garyzw 1 month ago
@garyzw Are you speaking of the ten commandments when you say this? Is this not SDA double speak? You say in one breath that the law does not save and then in the very next breath say that if you don't keep the law you are not saved.
Please explain this failing of exegesis on your part?
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom 3:31
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev 22:14
According to Scripture if you don't keep the Commandments you don't have the right to the tree of life.
garyzw 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES ...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Matt 19:17
If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
I love Him Do you?
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1John 5:2-3
garyzw 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES You really need to do a through study of Scripture. You are taking it out of context and reading into it false teachings. I have provided you with ample Scripture to refute your argument and you present no Scripture to back up what you say but rather given your opinion, I go by Scripture not man's opinion,
garyzw 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES Do we break the law because we are no longer under the law? God forbid. The only way to be under the law is to break the law. When you break the law willingly you bring yourself under it’s condemnation. This is why Paul says “God forbid”. We are no longer under the law, or under sin, or under it’s condemnation. Why?
Because Jesus Christ took the condemnation for us.
garyzw 1 month ago
@katpiering123
“Michael signifies, "Who is like God," and his name, with the title of "the great Prince," points out the Divine Saviour. Christ stood for the children of our people in their stead as a sacrifice, bore the curse for them, to bear it from them. He stands for them in pleading for them at the throne of grace. A..” –Matthew Henry’s Commentary on Daniel 12:1-4
garyzw 4 months ago
@katpiering123 yes she did because Jesus IS michael the archangel!
barcafun100 3 months ago
@katpiering123 MIKAEL or Michael means "who is like God" if you read in the bible you will see countless times where Michael revealed himself as Yahusha or Yahuah. I was confused by it as well till I actually read my bible for myself :Gen 22:15 And the *angel of the LORD* called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
Gen 22:16 & said, By MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, & hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" notice the claim?? only 1 example
wakeus777 2 months ago
@katpiering123 MIKAEL or Michael means "who is like God" if you read in the bible you will see countless times where Michael revealed himself as Yahusha or Yahuah. I was confused by it as well till I actually read my bible for myself :Gen 22:15 And the *angel of the LORD* called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
Gen 22:16 & said, By MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, & hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" notice the claim?? thats 1 exampl
wakeus777 2 months ago
The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope & vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
vladimirkovalski 6 months ago
@vladimirkovalski"Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan" Paul used the term "hi jack"? "John said the anti christ would rule from ROME"... Where in scripture did he say that?
imax1971 4 months ago
The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope & vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
vladimirkovalski 6 months ago
I am leaving the GC not because of the things some do in apostasy. I am leaving because they teach the pagan doctrine called the Trinity.
DigitalPraise7 6 months ago
@DigitalPraise7
You are making a mistake-- Ellen White says--
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
garyzw 6 months ago
@DigitalPraise7
The Church will be cleansed. Even now The Church are beginning a revival and reformation.
garyzw 6 months ago
@DigitalPraise7 Elohim is a plurality. There at the very beginning of the Bible. It's also blatant throughout the new testament. The "pagan doctrine of the trinity" is a counterfeit of the true Trinity. As is the way Satan always works. Which came first? The pagan trinity or the Biblical Trinity? Elohim was there, written in the Torah, a plurality. In the beginning. I know it's popular to be anti-trinitarian today but I can't see any consistent basis for that viewpoint. Peace my brother. Shalom
TakingBackSabbath 6 months ago
Is the full interview available?
sunkenher0 8 months ago
@sunkenher0
No it is not--
garyzw 8 months ago
It was the SDA church that crucified Jesus, so, prophetically, for it to be the end of time, the SDA church must fully reflect the same SDA church that put Jesus to death. The leaders of the SDA church must fully reflect the same character that the leaders of the SDA church had that crucified Jesus. Does anyone beleive that the leaders of the SDA church have come to the point that they fully reflect the character of the leaders that put Jesus to death?
kohath54 10 months ago
@kohath54
THERE ARE TWO 'ISRAELS' AMONG SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS TODAY - THE TRUE AND THE FALSE. This latter group, says the Apostle Jude, "are SPOTS in your feasts [Sabbath worship]... clouds without water [empty vessels], carried about of winds [false ideas and sentiments]; trees... without fruit, TWICE DEAD, [only waiting to be] plucked up by the roots." -- Jude 1:12. They are "the foolish virgins," or what we might more properly call 'Club Adventists.'
garyzw 10 months ago
@kohath54
These 'Club Adventists' God will "spew out of" His mouth (Rev. 3:16). Sister White explains what this means: "The figure of spewing out of His mouth means that He cannot offer up your prayers or your expressions of love to God. He cannot endorse your teaching of His word, or your spiritual work in anywise. He cannot present your religious exercises [to God] with the request that grace be given you." Testimonies, Vol. 6, p.408.
garyzw 10 months ago
@garyzw Just as well Messiah does the spitting out of individuals from the church via the Holy Spirit; since I don't trust anybody elses mouth with that job.
deborahbetty58 5 months ago
@deborahbetty58
Amen!
garyzw 5 months ago
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886).
alanplum7 10 months ago
Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
[17] Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
Hearken to the message, the trumpet is sounding, WILL WE AS A PEOPLE HEAR IT??
Shalom!
theonewillcome 11 months ago
The times of refreshing are upon us, the sprinkling of the latter rain is a message, just as Jesus breathed upon His disciples when He unfolded the scriptures to them after His resurrection:
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
We need to return to the foundations of our faith, the prophetic message, this is the ROCK upon which we were founded, Jesus Christ, the Word of God.
TBC
theonewillcome 11 months ago
Ezek 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
It's the prophetic message that brings the dead bones of modern israel to life:
Ezek 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
[5] Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
TBC
theonewillcome 11 months ago
God says He will sift the Church:
Luke 3:17 and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
The Church is being shaken as we speak, the testing message of the little book, the end time prophetic message, Dan 40-45, it is a test for the people of God.
TBC
theonewillcome 11 months ago
@theonewillcome
Daniel 11:40-45 is the little book. Amen
daro2096 11 months ago
Amen!!
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
John 14:15 If you love me keep my commandments.
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
TBC
theonewillcome 11 months ago