Sabres vs Islanders Game #4 06-07 Goal Controversy

[nyanfalcon]

Goal! (my father started the GOAL! Chant when they were reviewing it) Ahh Good/Bad memories

[NYIslander12]

goal

[PunkRockStarFilms]

goal

[TheGamblersCousin]

goal

[riskrunner5]

goal



[Jasperthjollyjoo]

the puck was loose when the goalie was pushed into the net so its a goal

[turtoise87]

goal

[theproducerspart2]

NO GOAL You cannot I REPEAT CANNOT push a goalie into the net like that, that is interference.

[CaptainMcDangle]

Unless your name is Thomas Holmstrom/Brooks Liaht lol!

[molongo0]

1. Puck is not seen whistle should have been blown

2. Goalie interference

3. If you pause at 15 seconds you can see an Islanders player with his stick and skate with in the crease, that could be goalie interference strictly speaking.

[NYIJK10]

@molongo0

1. This I agree with, but the point of the matter was that it wasn't blown, Refs do stuff like this all the time.

2. No goalie interference because if you watch the play its the Buffalo players diving to cover up the puck that hit Miller.

3. Because the puck is in the crease, the Islanders are allowed to be in the crease, so this is not interference.

Should have been a goal, just like that Sabres 'goal' in Game Three should not have counted. but what are you gonna do?

[Freiheitadler]

@NYIJK10

1. It doesn't matter when the whistle blew, the play is dead when the ref intends to blow the whistle (which makes things hazy)

2. It's not goalie interference, but it is no goal because the islander players pushed the keeper into the net. From every angle, and preferably the last, you can see the islander isn't pushed by a sabre into the goalie.

3. You can be in the crease at all times, as long as you aren't interfering with the goalie.

[NYIJK10]

@Freiheitadler

1. The ref doesn't even begin lift his hand to blow his whistle until after the put is in the net. I'm aware of the rule, but you can't be 'intending to blow the whistle' before you've even started moving.

2. Watch Buffalo numbers 23 and 21.

3. That's exactly what I said.

[Freiheitadler]

@NYIJK10

1. yea i know, but thats the hazy dumb part of the rule. All the ref has to say was that at that moment, he wanted to blow the whistle.

2. I disagree with you on this one. Buffalo 21 has his back turned and islanders 91 (i think) goes in with his own force.

3. wasn't disagreeing, just clarifying

[x30xSabresFan]

@NYIJK10 For your #1 If the ref says he wanted to blow the whistle before the puck went into the net the goal is automaticly counted as "No Goal" its when he WANTS to blow the whistle not WHEN he does

[Lindylax821]

@Freiheitadler But when everyone is pushing and shoving its kinjd've hard to tell who pushes who

[Lindylax821]

@NYIJK10 I agree with you. These refs are worse than the refs are in my league. And my refs suck. I was always a calm player. rarely getting a penalty, never getting suspended when i played travel And i got maybe 5 to 10 penalties a season? Which doesn't seem like alot to me when there's about 40 to 50 games in a season.. I go to this new league and played 47 games.. And i get 34 penalties? And i've been suspended 3 games? Ref quality or player quality? To me the ref quality has gone down..

[x30xSabresFan]

@molongo0 Have you watched hockey since, i don't know? The 1999 playoffs? When the puck is in the crease a player may be in the crease (as long as he doesn't touch the goaltender)

[thehockeyfans]

The reffs are fucken rediculous

[cindycrosby]

thats a tough call to make cause the islanders guy kind of pushed miller but so did the buffalo guy

[0zachNJDparise9]

GOAL

[jcookjr82]

This is one of those BS rules that the NHL thought of when they were high. If the ref has the intent on blowing the whistle, even after the puck is in the net, it's not a goal. Seriously, one of the worst rules. Ranks up there with the delay of game, puck over the glass rule.

[csoccer95]

umm...im a sabres fan and i dont think it matters at all, we still blew out the islanders up the butt XD XD XD

[Rico39]

It was a goal, blown call, puck was in the net before any whistle, sabre player made more contact with miller than anybody. simply a blown call, refs said first it was because of the whistle, then laster they said goalie interference.

[Xp1e8o]

ok no goal 2 things here 1. puck is not visable so whistle should have been called.

2. goalie interfearance

[meonfire11]

GOAL

[dyskietka71]

Goalie interference before the puck was seen in the net, No Goal!!!! IMO

[professorfoxtrot]

I agree, you can't push the goalie in the net.

[kevster422]

WITTS DIVING IN HOW IS IT DRURYS FAULT!

[ZackAM8606]

Drury's head hits Witt's legs causing him to fall

[liducksdude24]

boo tht was in the net the refs were paid lol lets go islanders

[buffsabre61]

agreed

he got pushed into the net

[detroitsports77]

you cant shove the goalie into the net w the puck and call a goal.

[ChRiSNyR]

calm down it was a goal but the islanders would have lost anyway it would have added an extra 3 minutes onto their disgusting season.

[cad569]

It was a goal. The puck was in the net before the whistle blew. Just another example of bias towards the Islanders from the Refs in the NHL.

[odysseus91]

bullshit, you didnt have a goal contraversy that cost you the stanley cup

[kevster422]

No goal....the puck was lose right before satan charged in he closed his 5 hole.u cant push the goalie in the argument is over No goal...

[Virauge]

Goal, when the whistle was blown the puck was half way to the back, not visible, but it was a goal.

[gosabresgo99]

no goal

[jespo26]

the whistle blew befour the puck was visible so no goal

[krevmedias]

RECTIFICATION: NO GOAL!!!

[krevmedias]

im not a fan of either of these teams: My verdict is: GOAL!

[Ehxc7]

GOAL!!!

[DrZoiby]

it's not whether you win or lose, it's half how you play the game, half the controverial ref calls. :D

[PolishKiller62]

NO GOAL

[k98headshots]

No goal he he was pushed..all you Long Island Jews go shut up and eat bagels

[ZackAM8606]

fail

[Kolzig01]

Number 31 dives into the goalie and prevents that goal. It may have slipped in if he hadnt dove right at the goalie.

[Kolzig01]

This was not a goal. The New York player hits the puck and it goes under The goalies pads. Then the goalie is pused into the net with the puck. At that point the p[lay is dead as soon as the puck crosses the goalline under the goalie (being pushed) After that the puck comes loose from under tthe goalie. This is not a goal.

[Shotdowntohell]

don't count on that

[giveortakeson]

It doesn't matter beacause goal or Not Buffalo still would've won the game

[Islanders1932]

u cannot say that, the game would have completely changed after that, it wouldn't have been played the same

[kevster422]

NO GOAL SO STFU!

[crazysaint91]

i love how lydman just pushes yashin as he thinks its a goal

[CG2111]

Why is it Miller's fault when the REFS blew the whistle not miller?? Come on grow up

[pnatt13]

Btw, Mike Leggo #3 is the ref who disallowed the goal.

[pnatt13]

Fucken refs. No I'm no Sabres fan but it's disgusting. It's the referee's fault for blowing the whistle too soon.

[goalmachine15]

this still haunts me. that's a clear goal i don't give a fuck what anyone says. GOAL

[jsr1034]

Yes, it clearly is. Witt clearly hits the puck first and then is pushed into Miller. Mike Leggo should go die.

[joeminarik]

clearly a goal. Miller is just a diving little pussy

[BGUSMC]

IT WAS A GOAL

I WAS THERE

IT WAS IN

[Ross29]

No goal, yeah the puck goes in, after Miller gets pushed into the net.

[moose4mayor58]

same thing we me... i wanna no how someone on the other side of th rink in the upper deck (being me) could see it was a goal and not the refs

[dkuhman]

Now the rules clearly state that the play stops as soon as the ref starts putting his hand towards his mouth(with the whistle of course). So by the time the whistle was blown they had no video coverage to show that it was a goal for sure..........CONTINUED

[xdrumtomx]

oh dont start with the "Sabres have more depth" bullshit. the team that plays harder deserves to win, and look how many games were 1 goal games that series, even though we dont have as much "depth". personally i think they isles got the shaft multiple fans that series, but who am i to say that, im an islander fan

on a lighter note, the sabres better 4-0 the rangers

[trumpetman0608]

settle for a 4-2?

[Sarcasm24]

As a Sabres fan, I can admit that I thought it was a goal. At the same time, the ref may have felt that the goal occured because of the interference on Miller. Stuff happens, refs make mistakes sometimes. The Sabres have never been screwed by the NHL and refs ever, so what do I know (Sarcasm obviously haha)

[prestonite]

As a Sabres fan I admit it was a goal but the whistle blew because ref lost sight.

[moregooder101]

even as a die-hard buffalo fan since birth, i thought it was a goal and i still do. but bottom line... buffalo has gotten effed by officials too (in hockey AND football) so islander fans quit bitching that they got screwed... even if they get the goal the sabres win the series cuz they have way more depth.

[ThumbsUpAmerica]

what happened to the "inside the crease" rule. I NEVER see that enforced anymore

[MuayThaiFCF]

there hasnt been a crease rules in years

[moregooder101]

the crease goal got bagged after dallas scored the stanley cup winner in triple OT AGAINST the sabres... turns out brett hull was in the crease but they overlooked it because dallas went crazy celebrating and it was such a long game.

[jbone0972]

Its a goal. come on the puck is in the friggin net , thats a goal bottom line , who cares who pushed who. its a goal

[bjnking17]

Id say goal.. And the ref jumped the gun on the whistle

[sampson18]

No Goal. Ryan Miller was laying on the puck and was pushed into the goal by the falling Islanders player.

[MrRebuttal]

The NY Islanders were clearly jipped on that call. Shame on the nhl and stupid sabres fans for not being honest enough to admit it's a goal. Whenever calls don't go for "their" dumb sabres team however they're the first and LOUDEST to scream CONSPIRACY! F**king hypocrytes. You deserve to be hated and NEVER have a successful team.

[kevster422]

rofl JIPPED?? learn the game u faggot..... its not a goal U CANT PUSH THE GOALIE..learn the game before u post shit about my city....FUCK U SHAME ON UR MOM FOR doing drugs before u were born

[Tim5213]

you cant push someone into the goalie either which is what happened idiot

[kevster422]

thats what i said fuck face... im a sabres fan dickwad

[Tim5213]

no you said that you can't push the goalie. someone on the sabres pushed Witt into miller

[kevster422]

he didnt push him into the goalie if u can see he was flying in there then he falls down and satan 81 dives into miller so its no goal and its over with

[ZackAM8606]

he was clearly pushed by a sabre

[ZackAM8606]

well it is a goalie when YOUR OWN player pushes an opponent into the goalie and the puck goes in

[ZackAM8606]

goal i mean

[kevster422]

HE DOVE INTO THE CREASE OPEN UR EYES!

[ZackAM8606]

WATCH DRURY RAM WITT'S LEGS!!!!

[kevster422]

and i guess presidents cup isnt successful MrREBUTTAL LIKES IN IN THE BUTTAL K?

[islesbelarus]

fuck the nhl!

[MasterJediRick]

Inconclusive at best. You cannot clearly see the puck over the goal line.  The Refs made the right call. Calling a goal when you can't see the puck go over the line would be the real crime.

[Jdog1492122]

You can see Witts stick making contact with the goal-line puck before contact was made with miller...where else could the puck have gone...refs had no reservations about using this logic on Vaneks shot which disappeared from clear view

[blueballzstudio]

Miller was PUSHED into the net with the puck...that's how it ended up in the net, douchbag announcers. I have seen alot of different videos of this and NONE have shown the puck being shot across the goal line. Where is this magic angle I keep heard the Islanders cry about? Why isnt it all over the place?

[kimshort]

sabresssss

[usasportswarrior]

That is a goal and the NHL is corrput! Starting with Colin Campbell. That idiot is not qualified for his job and he is unfair and biased from his coaching days. C'mon they even rigged the draft lotto so their franchise in the most trouble could get Crosby. If the NHL ever wants to become a real sports league they have to stop hiring former coaches for real executive positions.

[chazzy2121]

It was no goal. You never see on the video if the puck was struck with a stick. You also could not tell if the puck went in before Miller was pushed into the net by Miro Satan. Islander fans should be epset at Satan, he probably cost your team a goal.

[chazzy2121]

Absolutely no goal. You can't see if the puck was ever hit with a stick and Miller was absolutely interferred with by Satan. Islander fans should be upset with Satan as he may have cost his team a possible tying goal.

[bobcatnation]

the islander pushed the goalie into the net, right? so that's no goal, right? idk, i'm not a ref so

[agentmouthwash]

It's a goal!

[BigNed55]

NHL officiating is a horror show.