The Goodies were parodies.. they used the themes and language of the times against bigotry.. but had to use the language to do that, of course they did!
This is very much humour of its time. Nowadays I bet Messrs Brooke-Taylor, Garden,Oddie and everyone connected with the Goodies cringe at the spoof Yellow Pages advert like the rest of us and regret doing it.
The Goodies came to fame through the male-only 'Footlights Society' at Cambridge University, as did nearly all the BBC comedians of their time (eg Monty Python). Women campaigned to join, but weren't allowed. The flavour of a sexist, elite university society is what dominated BBC comedy until the 80s -- not 'common sense'. These aren't 'common values' -- they're the values of a small, but POWERFUL, minority.
@hootstootsochaye I think that they SHOULD be shown, because I think they're hilarious and I love the show, BUT, I don't think people should claim all the rubbish sexism and racism on the show is just fine and that to object to it is being 'too PC'. You can loathe the weaknesses in a work of art and still love the piece. Do you know what I mean?
@shampooed1 "all the rubbish sexism and racism on the show " - do you mind anti-racism satire? This show often mocked the Black&White Minstrel Show, and might have affected its cancellation. I think their takes on racism is 99% great. (The yellow pages joke being an exception, but a fairly harmless one.) Check out "Alternative Roots" for a great example of The Goodies' view on racism. And South Aftrica of course.
Concerning sexism, compare them to The Benny Hill Show.
@shampooed1 Thanks, I completely agree with you, and I'd just add that it took the alternative comedians of the 1980s, including many women, to challenge that racism and sexism. Contrary to the anti-PC brigade, the best British comedy is built on satirizing the powerful and everyday life, not giving women and blacks a kicking. Give me The Comic Strip any day over this tripe. And yeah, it shouldn't be shown now - it's a relic of a (mostly) bygone attitude.
yes I suppose you're right, I can't very well post a video of why the goodies aren't on the bbc when the bbc are showing them. Think they've bowed to the critisicism of the 40 year anniversary, so congratulations to common sense and I look forward to watching the episodes as they were meant to be seen.
Well thank goodness BBC have finally relented, and have just recently begun telecasting reruns of 'The Goodies'. Now... if they would just televise the episodes at a sensible time, all would be well.
Thankyou ABC2, for running the episodes here in Australia...you've made a lot of people very happy.
The bbc have applied today's politically correct bullshit to The Goodies and that's why we don't see them in their entirety today. They were one of the best...what a sad time we live in now where this is seen as offensive....What offends me is today's so called standards...I miss the 70s where we had real freedom of expression..keep your new millenium.
Not being shown on BBC is tied up with a contract they made with ITV when they moved over.....as is not appearing together..... ITV would not commit the budget required for the production and dropped the show.......Very Sad!
The Goodies were broadcast in the same evening as the Black and White Minstrel Show. Doesnt make it right, but they are so not racist, they were doing it for quick laughs. Nowadays they would not do it. They are from Cambridge for goodness sake...
Agree Ragnemalm. Taking moments of satire and putting them out of context to represent them as face value is the most senseless and dumb thing I have encountered all week.
Yes, I agree with Ragnemalm. It's like 'In Sickness and in Health/Till Death Us Do Part', which on the surface appear racist, but you're laughing at the appalling Alf Garnet, not with him. Catherine Tate and Little Britain are using the same sort of humour today, and are hugely popular, so I can't really understand why the Goodies shouldn't be shown, or at the very least, why the BBC can't bring them out on DVD? There's far worse stuff out on general release!
I think we have some cases of very fine humor there, daring but good. Sexism? Or, maybe rather parody of sexism? The last part (my favourite) is clearly anti-racist (with a nice case of contradiction to make it really funny). The whole South Africa episode is 100% anti-racist, with "apart height" and the south african piano. Anyone banning them for that must be a racist or unable to understand satire.
The Goodies were parodies.. they used the themes and language of the times against bigotry.. but had to use the language to do that, of course they did!
lozman67 1 month ago
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This is very much humour of its time. Nowadays I bet Messrs Brooke-Taylor, Garden,Oddie and everyone connected with the Goodies cringe at the spoof Yellow Pages advert like the rest of us and regret doing it.
Cool2BCeltic 2 months ago
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Cool2BCeltic 2 months ago
6. TC Raymond.
HaHaHamHammer 3 months ago
Back in the day they had FREEDOM of Speech.
TheGrunge619 5 months ago
This is Satire. Dont you Yankies get it?? There is an example I just did!!! It is sending up the white appartied racists not the black people!!!
pingtran 5 months ago
The Goodies came to fame through the male-only 'Footlights Society' at Cambridge University, as did nearly all the BBC comedians of their time (eg Monty Python). Women campaigned to join, but weren't allowed. The flavour of a sexist, elite university society is what dominated BBC comedy until the 80s -- not 'common sense'. These aren't 'common values' -- they're the values of a small, but POWERFUL, minority.
shampooed1 11 months ago 4
@shampooed1 Not really sure of your point, Do you think they should not be shown ?
hootstootsochaye 11 months ago 2
@hootstootsochaye I think that they SHOULD be shown, because I think they're hilarious and I love the show, BUT, I don't think people should claim all the rubbish sexism and racism on the show is just fine and that to object to it is being 'too PC'. You can loathe the weaknesses in a work of art and still love the piece. Do you know what I mean?
shampooed1 11 months ago
@shampooed1 "all the rubbish sexism and racism on the show " - do you mind anti-racism satire? This show often mocked the Black&White Minstrel Show, and might have affected its cancellation. I think their takes on racism is 99% great. (The yellow pages joke being an exception, but a fairly harmless one.) Check out "Alternative Roots" for a great example of The Goodies' view on racism. And South Aftrica of course.
Concerning sexism, compare them to The Benny Hill Show.
Ragnemalm 8 months ago
@shampooed1 Thanks, I completely agree with you, and I'd just add that it took the alternative comedians of the 1980s, including many women, to challenge that racism and sexism. Contrary to the anti-PC brigade, the best British comedy is built on satirizing the powerful and everyday life, not giving women and blacks a kicking. Give me The Comic Strip any day over this tripe. And yeah, it shouldn't be shown now - it's a relic of a (mostly) bygone attitude.
thestripedtabby 8 months ago
yes I suppose you're right, I can't very well post a video of why the goodies aren't on the bbc when the bbc are showing them. Think they've bowed to the critisicism of the 40 year anniversary, so congratulations to common sense and I look forward to watching the episodes as they were meant to be seen.
hootstootsochaye 1 year ago
Well thank goodness BBC have finally relented, and have just recently begun telecasting reruns of 'The Goodies'. Now... if they would just televise the episodes at a sensible time, all would be well.
Thankyou ABC2, for running the episodes here in Australia...you've made a lot of people very happy.
tenderheart17 1 year ago 4
The bbc have applied today's politically correct bullshit to The Goodies and that's why we don't see them in their entirety today. They were one of the best...what a sad time we live in now where this is seen as offensive....What offends me is today's so called standards...I miss the 70s where we had real freedom of expression..keep your new millenium.
LionheartNh 1 year ago 2
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LionheartNh 1 year ago
Not being shown on BBC is tied up with a contract they made with ITV when they moved over.....as is not appearing together..... ITV would not commit the budget required for the production and dropped the show.......Very Sad!
They are available on DVD.
lordyokel 1 year ago
@lordyokel yeah like the ITV series and around 16 BBC episodes.
meowool 6 months ago
do you know what.. there isn't a spiteful bone in their body, cheeky but harmless, what a shitty world out there for kids, still thats life.
jettscream 1 year ago 2
The Goodies repeats were shown on Australia's ABC for so many years, probably until early 1990's.
joecoolyowza 2 years ago
They should have been!!!!!!
Goodyfan17 2 years ago
The Goodies were broadcast in the same evening as the Black and White Minstrel Show. Doesnt make it right, but they are so not racist, they were doing it for quick laughs. Nowadays they would not do it. They are from Cambridge for goodness sake...
HEV29 2 years ago
Agree Ragnemalm. Taking moments of satire and putting them out of context to represent them as face value is the most senseless and dumb thing I have encountered all week.
hatgirl09 2 years ago 2
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ROEJONO 2 years ago
semolinapilchard1968 the goodies is released on dvd i have season 1 and 2 and think it is brilliant
hx3ab 2 years ago
I always thoughht it was because they fell out with the Grades following their satirising them once too often. Same with Sykes and MIlligan.
dfarmbrough 3 years ago
Yes, I agree with Ragnemalm. It's like 'In Sickness and in Health/Till Death Us Do Part', which on the surface appear racist, but you're laughing at the appalling Alf Garnet, not with him. Catherine Tate and Little Britain are using the same sort of humour today, and are hugely popular, so I can't really understand why the Goodies shouldn't be shown, or at the very least, why the BBC can't bring them out on DVD? There's far worse stuff out on general release!
SEMOLINAPILCHARD1968 3 years ago
I think we have some cases of very fine humor there, daring but good. Sexism? Or, maybe rather parody of sexism? The last part (my favourite) is clearly anti-racist (with a nice case of contradiction to make it really funny). The whole South Africa episode is 100% anti-racist, with "apart height" and the south african piano. Anyone banning them for that must be a racist or unable to understand satire.
Ragnemalm 3 years ago