[MACHINIMA] Will Cheese Fail Episode 2 -- SC2 [LAGTV]

[danfg]

First time I saw this strategy was from a Spanishiwa game. Bleedsugar obviously copied it, and his poor micro is barely enough to pull it off.

[sidecutte]

So 10 pool in a ZvZ is considired a cheese?

[Supcom36]

One hell of a badass game.

[TheAgent0913]

HE CALLED IT!

[M3t4lManiac]

Horrible transfuses/micro Oo I'm only plat (never play) and I can even see that.

[andymlakcs]

needs more öut!! and cowbell

[Karragh]

I'm canadian and the way maximus says out still gets me every time.

[thelasthope666]

they missed the banelings while the crackling action-.- rofl

[Krafterr4]

I love it, now every time a queen leaves a base it mother-fucking pilgrimage. XD

[enderoverwrite]

one of the best and tightest games evah

[thetacojoe123]

those spine penises do a lot of penetration :P

[xBiocide]

I understand Machinima wants the watermark in the bottom right, but it does block the minimap, which is super important in Starcraft.

[mottozero]

@xBiocide minimap is on bottom left

[aznball123]

Lol, saw a 10 pool and didn't bother watching it. Definitely not a cheese, especially in a mirror.

[AdrianvsJak]

@aznball123 you sir, missed an epic ending

[bAdDefiler]

the only thing i dont like is the machinima logo covering the minimap, maybe move it a tad to the right?

[StewDMill]

I'm OK with you guys going to machinima, but could you request they move the qatermark to above the minimap? <3

[Razorstudio]

@StewDMill : Machinima doesn'T allow to move the logo.

[indalecio21]

rrrrrrrdddaabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Fw3sh9871]

I watch in 480p and i think its HQ

[crazzynez]

you guys need to study pro level games of zvz, you might learn a lot

[mattbenz99]

Why does machinima suck so much thank god you post these games on lagtv also

[spartanmadness1]

Hmm, is this an example of the next Day9 Funday Monday (using spine crawlers to attack)?

[spaaaaaance]

I made it RACIST

[Troggle0514]

i dont really consider a 10pool to be a cheese, considering the 10pooler had a better eco than the other guy the entire game even though adam and jeff failed to notice that. just because he rushed early doesn't mean he didnt outmacro the guy too...

[that1JorgeguyxD]

in b4 people complain aboot the watermark bcuz they want to complain about something

[blackmage0169]

this isnt funny i was dropped as a child and now im derp.

[froggy1112]

wheres the cheese?

[Galoan17]

@froggy1112 At the beginning, Ling rush. How did you miss that?

[Zetsumi199091]

@froggy1112 There was a 10 pool at the beginning of the game

[LtHenryCrunch]

You guys are awesome. I love that you post these games on your channel, because I am NOT subscribing to Machinima and having to sort through all the crap to find gems like these. Keep up the bousesosity.

[AdrianvsJak]

@ToWatchMusic I'm telling the truth lol what do u want me to do to prove it?

[holsson85]

Can spine crawlers travel via Nydus?

[Hillman105]

I like how this video has more views than the machinima video....

[shurenren]

Can't the machinima logo be moved a little so that it wouldn't block the minimap????

[zabuza182]

lol bleedsugar is blue and frost is red

[santa0704]

*busts through wall*

OH YAAAHH!!!

[jergification]

he said it

[Aggropandabear]

What a cool game! Thanks for whoever sent it in.

[ChuckNorris0929]

Sometimes I feel like people complain just for the sake of complaining... why does it matter, that there is a SEE THROUGH logo, over PART of the minimap, that doesnt block ANYTHING?

[quoabell]

lol that ending XDD .. & i just watched the dropped as a child episode again ;D epic

[deankenda]

holy spincralers batman

[ToWatchMusic]

@adrianvsjaak lies!

[guitarman964]

GRAPE DRANK ALL THE THINGS!!!

[AdrianvsJak]

Hey guys this is BleedSugar. Yes I was Inspired by Spanishiwa lol. Thanks for all the comments that enjoyed this game :D

[Bobwickz]

siege crawlers :3

[SunkenDPr0]

who cares about machinima....I WANT MY MINIMAP

[Alexandeux]

Canada ftw!!

[busterman14]

Adam feeds on Jeffs THUNDER!

[BenyBenator]

I don't mind machinima putting their logo on there, but can it be moved off the minimap?

[starcraftplayerone]

Bleeding sugar? Technically if you have really bad diabetes you're bleeding glucose --> sugar. LOL

[AnacondaHL]

I don't even play zerg, but I know the double queen is for the ramp block.

[rapesomeface]

When casting fails… 3:15

[Outrageouss2]

i swear ive heard parts of this cast before...

[ocmpadm0]

Machina logo is over the minimap and i find this annoying.

[FastIkarus]

At 3:10 BleedSugar is not behind as you say, HE is the one who has 15 drones and FrostHowl (defender) has only ten ;) When casting fails again? ;)

[TheWit3man]

The cheese wins, the caster fails, probably a hint from adam XD

[shoseki]

Sour about that chicken.

[eatSLEEPshitHONDA]

I MISS WHEN CHEESE FAILS!!! ="(

[gaiuscassius]

God save the queen!

[MrNotcody]

@gaiuscassius o yeah

[TheBlueJamie]

People are just hating machinima for the sake of hating, content doesn't automatically turn bad because it's on machinima, even if lots of bad videos are uploaded to machinima.

[ohAlanho]

if machinima pays jeff and adam more i wouldn't mind having to deal with some of machinina's stuff, jeff got a new crip and fiance so he's gonna need that extra income

[Dames12345]

Was that really a cheese game?

[MadBagOfHorses]

@Dames12345

10pool before overlord... eh. Yeah, it's a bit cheesy. Enough to pass IMO.

[9ikaro]

@Dames12345 10 pool is the most econ cheese

[C0nstellati0ns]

u guys are awesome!

[betaman1]

this wasnt cheese, 10pool ZvZ is fairly standard

[KillThe1992]

@betaman1

Spines???? You Blind

[lucasvandam]

@betaman1 definition of cheese: you dont scout it, your dead!

[Terlatra2]

4:09.. if I was a zerg player I would be thinking I would get baneling busted here... -Jeff

5:29.. you didn't call banelings nest...- Adam

Love you guys. glbg Good Luck, Bleed Gravy.

[xrivhardx]

hey guys love the content

[TheLittleMan123]

spinecrawlers: the not so static defence

[askmatthewpotter]

And I quote from 3:22 : “Those attacks either works or they don‘t…”.

As compared to other types of attacks?

[mushrambo5]

Spanishiwa coined that queen spine all in.

[ajsw98]

had to pause and rewind after the "Were you dropped as a child" was sang so fluidly! Epic cast.

[SrsKask]

This game was, something totally bizzarely and unbelievably freakishly different. I don't wanna go up to tons of tranfusing queens with spine crawlers. I'm gonna rewatch this until I figure out every flaw this has

[zmankins159]

aww i hate yall you gave me a hernia from joyous laughter... should probably get this checked out

[endplanets]

Heh, if you shot the fat guy from Deer Avenger 3 he would complain about bleeding gravy.

But it should be worth mentioning that trees do bleed sugar (maple syrup).

[582Thomas]

@endplanets Isn't a ton of sugar added to maple sap before it becomes a finished product?

[endplanets]

@582Thomas

If you stab a tree it will bleed sugar (in the form of maple syrup). Native Americans used to eat it straight out of the trees, but today corporations probably add a bunch of sugar to it anyway. And most syrup on the market is synthetic and thus almost all sugar anyway.

[serder910630]

@endplanets ..., they don't, if you buy REAL maple syrup, there is no sugar added, just boiled maple water which makes the syrup

[SaleXchannel]

this game was waaaayy to normal to be considered "will cheese fail"...

but hey, you cant score with all games, so, looking forward to more awesome maybe-cheese-fails :D

[Stengerling]

Looks like Spanishiwa, nice game, great cast again :)

[JeffWatersRules]

Look guys it´s nice what you´re doing but please don´t say it´s all in when even after getting all those spines he has a drone lead and army lead.

Bouse.

[NoisyNinjaSC2]

@JeffWatersRules Well said. The one thing I hate about them is that they assume and are proven wrong.

[JeffWatersRules]

@NoisyNinjaSC2 It´s funny to me because Jeff is a Masters player on the NA ladder you´d think he knew something about this game

[JeffWatersRules]

Sour bout that watermark

[pnobubbles]

nice cat guys!...from Belgium!

[Kajover]

i know that you record a stream from somewhere but please we want 1080p back :)

[LifesAGlitchTV]

@Kajover

Machinima requests 720p and I'm not rendering these games twice so you can get a slightly better resolution on 1/8 of our weekly content lol.

Aside from CoOp games and Machinima, all games are in 1080p. [Adam]

[TheReallydontcare]

@Kajover "We" want 1080p? I watch on 360p because that's all you actually need to watch the game easily. If you don't think 720p is enough you're an idiot.

[DisguisedNinjas]

@TheReallydontcare Personally I prefer 480, so I could see the minimap clearly, but in this case I CAN'T because SOMEBODY decided their stupid WATERMARK was more important than the most important THING IN THE GAME.

[TheLonelyBrit]

If only they did the SCI4 game between Grubby.Grubby and M.Stephano. Stephano had just beaten Grubby 2-0 in a best of 5, so Grubby decieded to Cannon rush him. It's 1 30-odd minute game...

[Zelein]

Also, 6:26 - BleedSugar shitting the bed, attacking his own queen for lolz :P

[Zelein]

Will casting fail 102:

First off, he did TONS of damage (BleedSugar) with his initial 6-8 lings. He force a spine, killed alot of drones and droned up behind it. so when you say, at 38 supply to 26 supply, that they're even - You are seriously wrong, Adam and Jeff. I'm sorry, but as a Silver Zerg player, I must inform you of such errors! :P

[patrickgreendog]

@Zelein and your talking to a masters level player. shhh

[Dwaje]

@patrickgreendog There's no reason Zelein can't say that stuff. They miscalled that part. His opinion shouldn't be nothing just because he's in a lower league.

[TheMusZero]

@Zelein Why would you have to inform them?

[KCzz15]

NORMALLY I hate Machinima and people who "sell out" to them, but Jeff & Adam are handling it very well by still putting up non-Machinima videos and taking the old Machinima videos and posting them here for us too so I approve.

I've seen people who basically took down all of their videos so they could rebrand them onto Machinima and only post links to the Machinima videos on their old channel. That is the sort of sellout I don't approve of at all.

[LifesAGlitchTV]

@KCzz15 Thanks. I don't think anyone can honestly say what we're doing is selling out by any definition. We've stayed exactly the same. We produce the same amount of content or more if you count the reposts of Machinima casts and are doing it to help get our name out there.

[balernoraccon]

@LifesAGlitchTV just wondering why jeff doesn't archive his twitch steams, I usually tune in but being in Europe is a bit of a pain so just wondering.

[MrEternusVox]

@LifesAGlitchTV I care. I care that its the first win.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 Yes, all those fuckers who want success are terrible! Damn jerks!

[KCzz15]

@ToxinMortalis

Success at the cost of everyone who got you to where you are is not the best trade off.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 Well, good thing you're here to tell people how to live their lives. Otherwise they might up and do something you don't approve of, them being adults and all, and wouldn't that be a tragedy; people making their own choices about their own lives.

[KCzz15]

@ToxinMortalis

Congratulations on letting the point fly miles over your head and going off on a tangent.

Don't bother replying back, I'm not willing to get into a debate over other topics.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 Debate? There's no debate. You've stated that you think you know what's best for other people... due to some imaginary belief that success means stepping on other people and throwing away past relationships. Boy have you had a sh*tty life. You have my sympathies for your life being so screwed up that you instantly think everyone gets treated like you. That's not the case at all. But you can pretend all you want.

[KCzz15]

@ToxinMortalis

I'm genuinely unsure if you're retarded, stupid, or just trolling.

Though if the best trolling you can manage is just pretending to be stupid for the purpose of it, then odds are good you're pretty stupid anyway.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 So, the fact that I think you're being an unaware moron that has this abstract code of honor that people must stick to in order for their success to be legitimate in your eyes... somehow makes me a moron.

You're the one who missed the point, boyo. You really should practice your "You're either an idiot or a troll" speeches in front of a mirror. You'd be talking to the right person then.

[KCzz15]

@ToxinMortalis

For 3 days now you seem to have been under this weird assumption that I'm forcing my own opinion on others or telling people what to do.

I'm not, not at all. Thus, your argument has been invalid since day one.

Not that that's stopped to ranting in the comments of a Youtube video to nobody in particular about your invalid rant with all the effect of pissing in the wind, but hey. That's why you're either stupid or a troll.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 And yet, at no point, have you seemed to understand the gist of your own argument. Nor have you actually backed up your claims about "selling out" in any shape or form. Yet you call me stupid and trollish.

Projection, my misguided friend, seems to be your preferred course of action.... but I'm the troll, somehow. Quite the interesting world you live in.

[KCzz15]

@ToxinMortalis

At this point your own ignorance and stupidity has finally outweighed my patience for further replies, so yeah troll successful if that's what you were going for. Fuck reading your train wrecks any more, I'm done.

[ToxinMortalis]

@KCzz15 You only call it a train wreck because all you see is your own pile of debris. If you bothered to climb the mountain of wreckage that you inhabit, you might be able to understand what I was saying. You were too busy looking at the twisted metal of your own desires and claiming that everyone was the same, to actually try to see another viewpoint.

It's alright though. I understand your viewpoint and I recognize that it's flawed on many levels. If only you could do the same...

[Ninitos1]

Adam ---> has production tab on..asks Jeff to double click on spine crawlers in order to count them

[MusicReign]

the first attack was very succesful!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AntikerKlinowski]

if red zerg wouldnt have expanded he would have most likely hold that big attack with the crawlers i think

[GoldenWowProductions]

There is the spread right there, but who is gonna take the initiative?

That's a very bad line if you just talked about bleeding sugar...

[An2quamaraN]

-"he failed with that attack, so now he's gonna be behind..."

*opens units tab* *he's ahead in eveything*

[Plutytutts]

Gg

[DeadBeatBlast]

why are his drones just sitting there?

[Thedutchjelle]

you guys remember all your episodes?! :D

I love the singing at 07:00 :D Great episode.

[tcm1521]

I don't quite understand the difference between Will cheese fail and Machinima Will cheese fail. I't pretty much the same thing but with the Machinima logo at the opening, right?

[Yipo1013]

@tcm1521 No they are different games, the Machinima WCF are suppose to be for the Machinima Channel, but they post it here as well for those of us who are not subscribed to Machinima's YT channel so we can still see the games. However, the regular WCF does not get posted on Machinima.

[MacGuffinSC]

That's good 'ol fashion family racism.

[japetsgmail]

10:38 - that's not static defence, it's static offence! :P

[BaileysBeads]

This is what gets me out of bed in the morning.

[KnightOfAmarCostume]

did machinima pay these 2 guys to put a FUCKINWATERTARDMARK?

[blahg8]

@KnightOfAmarCostume They're apart of machinima, yes.

[Yipo1013]

@KnightOfAmarCostume Yes, as far as to Jeff's interview with the net radio guys, he explained that YouTube does not pay them for the ads for SC2 games. It is Machinima that pays them, and this supposingly goes for all other SC2 casters as well.

[Boffcheese]

@KnightOfAmarCostume I think they mentioned in another video that they lost the non-Machinima versions of these casts.

[LifesAGlitchTV]

@KnightOfAmarCostume

No. In fact the subsequent Machinima videos won't have it there, only the pre and post rolls will be. The reason the watermark is there is because we had to pull it from their channel since I forgot to save the originals which didn't have a watermark. Relax. [Adam]

[KnightOfAmarCostume]

@LifesAGlitchTV i'm really really sorry, i didn't understand. it was my fault.

sincerely yours,

a Big(not fat) fan,

but not a fan of machinima...at all.

<3

[MakariousFarag2]

Anyone else have this shitty player instead of normal one?

[No603Scope]

that watermark really shit the bed all over that minimap

[asdfgoogle]

4:07 "if I was the zerg player, I would be getting a banelings next!"

Oh yeah? Me too! lol.

[darkmantlestudios]

roaches on the high ground would have owned this...

[Knorssman]

you can say where SOPA was going to come from....the cursed United States government!!

[FinTheDew]

I dont consider 10pool a cheese, but only if you dont commit to it. 6lings to make pressure to opponent, causing him to over react on defense and by doing that getting huge eco lead. 10pool with 8 or more lings with drones pulled is a cheese

[allenallen88]

bad macro

[musmas00]

I love chicken am I black?

[musmas00]

bouse!

[xMorgasm92]

That was some spanishiwa style shit

[theParanoidification]

dont listen to all the complainers, these are great casts and if these episodes for machinima help to further LagTV then that is all that matters, keep up the good work as always :D

[me715]

by reading the comments you would think the watermark was so awful or something but its basically translucent. people will bitch about ANYTHING haha god lord

[nerdness111]

Gotta learn zerg more for some decent commentary :/

[Rosenkreuz]

watermark on the minimap.. not cool

[brigbjones]

just stop with this machinima shit!!! you guys are good enough without them!!!!!!!!!!

[LifesAGlitchTV]

@brigbjones

You realize nothing has changed and these videos are actually just extra content for you guys, right? lol. We've been with Machinima for 9 months, you just didn't know it. [Adam]

[ncinnkeep]

this was an awesome game, great cast

[frogjg2003]

I bleed green too.

[zbjump]

At exactly 3:26 someone got a text message

[zbjump]

@zbjump And again at 5:20 :)

[sPrettyCoolGuym]

Will cheese transition into a sick game?

[scott2e4c]

To be honest i only saw 2 transfuses in that last battle, what were you guys orgasaming about ? lol

[FinTheDew]

@scott2e4c 11

[illr34pyou]

you should give us the link to the machinima vid!

[Comp1337e]

I love KFC, watermelon, cornbread, etc.

[LiveWireUA]

4:07 Called it!

[falloutmail]

i love it good job guys :)

[longhair202]

great game! wish they would just pull up the apm tab every once in awhile

[NdXirish419]

I finally looked up Canuckville, Canada and I realize how amazing that joke is now.

[efox29]

SOPA is dead :)

New problem...ACTA <-- worse than SOPA

[Zeknif1]

@efox29 International "Governing" bodies are almost invariably doomed to failure. ACTA will be no different, and American Politicians, in the wake of the massive SOPA outcry, will think twice before signing on in support of ACTA.

[aierce]

@efox29 SOPA Is NOT Dead, mearly postponed, waiting for people to forget about it and get voted past.