@NARB57 Surtout que Prost a l'interview dit "Senna avait des pb de freins" raison de plus de penser que Prost etait en peine ou ne comptait pas resisté je trouve ca lache il avait peu de chose a perdre de finir la course meme si derriere il y avait bellof
@NARB57 Surtout que Prost a l'interview dit "Senna avait des pb de freins" raison de plus de penser que Prost etait en peine ou ne comptait pas resisté je trouve ca lache il avait peu de chose a perdre de finir la course meme si derriere il y avait bellof
Prost didn't care about one specific race, as he said here. He calculated each race, and allowed people to pass him in order to avoid risking his points. Senna wanted to win each and every race no matter what, risking a bit more than anyone. Prost had a calculator on his hands. Senna had his heart on his hands. Jesus bless you!
ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE RACES this fan has ever seen,i admire all with courage to compete in foul weather,and never give in to defeat,is great inspiration to all ,,cheers,,!!
I was not a Senna fan, but after watching the documentary made recently of him, it's clear that this guy was a real hero of the tracks, he had to fight against stupid Ballestre besides the wars he fought in the tracks, clearly this race (as the '89 championship, finally I understood that Suzuka move) was for him, but no, pussy Prost had all the support of the FIA
Im always trying to imagine what would have happened if Bellof and later on Senna wouldnt have died.The both started their careers at the same time both were young and imagine what could have happened if they had been driving in winner cars against each other? This would have been the biggest battle of all time. The two most talented drivers of all time!!!
@TheCompat Senna, sure, but Bellof? What talent did he show? It can't all be based on this one race. What else did Bellof do to show he was going to be a Senna-like talent?
@Hondas337 Prost a pussy? He was ahead by 30 seconds at one point! Did you see his pass on Ayrton in Estoril 1988 after Senna shoved him towards the pit wall at 180 mph? Prost is hardly a pussy.
Can you imagine a rock concert with all the best bands of all time?!!!! Add to that the allure and performance of Formula 1 and you have this amazing race!!!!!!! This is truly the who's who of F1 racing .Unbelievable!!! Thank you very much for posting this.
Interesting to note is that if the race hadn't been stopped and allowed to go the full distance or whatever was needed to give full points to the drivers, then Senna would have won and Prost ended up in 2nd place bagging 6 points instead of the 4,5 he got for the win in the stopped race. Whether or not Bellof would have overtaken Prost for 2nd place didn't matter since Tyrrell lost all their points and classifications for the entire 1984 season. Prost would have won the 1984 title by a single p.
it's not difficult to say Senna was the best. in normal conditions the Toleman Hart was very inferior to McLaren, Ferrari, Lotus, Renault and Williams. Only in this conditions he had a chance. Bellof on the other side drove a good race, but he was running an illegal car and was fairly squalified. Senna also set the fastest lap with a damaged suspension.
Simplemente el mejor Ayrton. Esa carrera era suya y hasta el propio Prost dice en la entrevista final que le hubiera dejado pasar ya que era mucho mas rapido que el debido a sus problemas de frenos y su preocupacion por el campeonato. En lluvia demostraba mas aun su superioridad. We miss you Ayrton. The best F1 pilot ever!!!!
Cut the crap. Prost was one of the best of all time too. 4 championships and 51 wins. In fact you should be grateful Senna was measured against him in the same car. Schumacher never had a Prost like team mate, just a number of handpicked number 2's like Verstappen, Herbert, Irvine and Barrichello.
Great mean are judged by other great men and Senna had Prost as team mate.
If you look only the speed of the cars you can see Beloff and Senna where the quickest. Beloff had no Turbo. He had problem on straight road to passing the other cars and he was also to much time behind cars. But the advantage of having no turbo was no turbolag at the end of the curves. You can see the action before tunnel. So its hard to say. Mansell and De Angelis also not bad. And Prost and Lauda? They had break problems? Ok! The other drivers had no chance.
I agree, in this conditions overall its an advantage to not have a turbocharged engine because of the turbolag and the resulting miserable drivability of these engines
Turbos had trouble matching the pace of the normally aspirated cars in Monaco out of all places. For instance in 1983 when Piquet had far more horsepower in his Brabham-BMW than Rosberg had in his Williams-Ford. Piquet said the turbolag meant he simply rolled through many corners and floored it on the straight. Rosberg won the 1983 Monaco GP against all the turbo opposition.
In the rain turbocars were very difficult to control, and particularly in Monaco. Bellof had an advantage
Also you should know at the end of the 1984 season it was revealed Tyrrell had been cheating all year and had underweight cars. They just filled their tanks with lead bearings to make the minimum weight when controlled. So Bellof's car may have been some 100kilos lighter than the rest too, which coped with a normally aspirated engine was a huge advantage in a rain soaked Monaco.
As punishment Tyrrell lost all their points and rankings in the 1984 season.
In rain, having a non-turbo engine is a huge advantage. Rosberg won in Monaco in 1983 driving a Williams-Cosworth V8, against the opposition who virtually all had way more powerful turbo-engines.
In Monaco out of all circuits outright power means the least, and in rain a smooth non-turbo engine is ideal
Bellof's Tyrrell was also underweight, since it was revealed that Tyrrell had used lots of lead bearings as ballast to pass the weight inspections.They were stripped of all points
what I see here is Prost being really fast: a gap of 2.6sec to 2nd Mansell and 6.8sec to 3d Arnoux, in just 2 laps! Mansell only catched Prost and overtook him when both McLaren started to have braking problems (wrong compound: brakes didn't warm properly). By some stage of the race, Prost was leading by 30 sec...... Senna was fantastic that day, but given circumstances, everyone seemed to forget the excellent race Prost performed as well.....
Prost surprise to win? He doesn't merit this win.
touzeau3333 3 weeks ago
@touzeau3333 Je suis du même avis, c'était l'ère "
Jean-Marie Balestre et l'époque ou il y avait beaucoup de Pilotes Français qu'il fallait "favoriser" ...Patriotisme ? Chauvinisme ?
puis l'histoire se répètera en 89 et 90 notamment.
NARB57 3 weeks ago
@NARB57 Surtout que Prost a l'interview dit "Senna avait des pb de freins" raison de plus de penser que Prost etait en peine ou ne comptait pas resisté je trouve ca lache il avait peu de chose a perdre de finir la course meme si derriere il y avait bellof
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@NARB57 Surtout que Prost a l'interview dit "Senna avait des pb de freins" raison de plus de penser que Prost etait en peine ou ne comptait pas resisté je trouve ca lache il avait peu de chose a perdre de finir la course meme si derriere il y avait bellof
touzeau3333 3 weeks ago
Prost didn't care about one specific race, as he said here. He calculated each race, and allowed people to pass him in order to avoid risking his points. Senna wanted to win each and every race no matter what, risking a bit more than anyone. Prost had a calculator on his hands. Senna had his heart on his hands. Jesus bless you!
diplomata1990 4 months ago
The beginning of Prost's scare to Senna.
kikecacique 4 months ago
ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE RACES this fan has ever seen,i admire all with courage to compete in foul weather,and never give in to defeat,is great inspiration to all ,,cheers,,!!
ror312gallery19 5 months ago
@ror312gallery19 Sûrement l'un des plus beau Grand-Prix, celui de la première Victoire d'Ayrton si . . . !
NARB57 5 months ago
Rainmaster Bellof !
flitzo111 5 months ago
Bellof and Senna!!!!!!
MrRamto13 6 months ago
Prost had brake failure, he totally deserved the win.
Shogo5000 7 months ago
I was not a Senna fan, but after watching the documentary made recently of him, it's clear that this guy was a real hero of the tracks, he had to fight against stupid Ballestre besides the wars he fought in the tracks, clearly this race (as the '89 championship, finally I understood that Suzuka move) was for him, but no, pussy Prost had all the support of the FIA
elmerhomerochingon 8 months ago
Im always trying to imagine what would have happened if Bellof and later on Senna wouldnt have died.The both started their careers at the same time both were young and imagine what could have happened if they had been driving in winner cars against each other? This would have been the biggest battle of all time. The two most talented drivers of all time!!!
TheCompat 10 months ago
@TheCompat Senna, sure, but Bellof? What talent did he show? It can't all be based on this one race. What else did Bellof do to show he was going to be a Senna-like talent?
UltimateWheelman 5 months ago
fuckin prost, what a PUSSY!!!!!!!!1
Hondas337 11 months ago
@Hondas337 Prost a pussy? He was ahead by 30 seconds at one point! Did you see his pass on Ayrton in Estoril 1988 after Senna shoved him towards the pit wall at 180 mph? Prost is hardly a pussy.
UltimateWheelman 5 months ago
This is why I never liked Prost, and never will.
tifoziPT 11 months ago
They've robbed us of a great battle for the win. And they've robbed Senna or Bellof of their (most likely) win :(
Though who knows, maybe it was a wise decision - we'll never know for sure.
SolarPL 1 year ago 4
Roubaram a vitória do Senna !
Ivan9Almeida 1 year ago
Can you imagine a rock concert with all the best bands of all time?!!!! Add to that the allure and performance of Formula 1 and you have this amazing race!!!!!!! This is truly the who's who of F1 racing .Unbelievable!!! Thank you very much for posting this.
mik1641 1 year ago
Interesting to note is that if the race hadn't been stopped and allowed to go the full distance or whatever was needed to give full points to the drivers, then Senna would have won and Prost ended up in 2nd place bagging 6 points instead of the 4,5 he got for the win in the stopped race. Whether or not Bellof would have overtaken Prost for 2nd place didn't matter since Tyrrell lost all their points and classifications for the entire 1984 season. Prost would have won the 1984 title by a single p.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
it's not difficult to say Senna was the best. in normal conditions the Toleman Hart was very inferior to McLaren, Ferrari, Lotus, Renault and Williams. Only in this conditions he had a chance. Bellof on the other side drove a good race, but he was running an illegal car and was fairly squalified. Senna also set the fastest lap with a damaged suspension.
sargatanas88 2 years ago
7:28 he looks like kubica, except he has more hair...
Le proffesuir!
davorsertic 2 years ago
Simplemente el mejor Ayrton. Esa carrera era suya y hasta el propio Prost dice en la entrevista final que le hubiera dejado pasar ya que era mucho mas rapido que el debido a sus problemas de frenos y su preocupacion por el campeonato. En lluvia demostraba mas aun su superioridad. We miss you Ayrton. The best F1 pilot ever!!!!
OtakugameMostoles 2 years ago
Senna is the best. King in Monaco.
michel4acordi 2 years ago 2
El director de cámaras era un idiota, se perdió la remontada de Senna, la forma en que fue recortando la distancia.
CARBAU57 2 years ago
Grande SENNA MITICO FANTASTICO
ErMejodeRoma66 2 years ago 5
The king chicken,Prost ,the asshole of F1 history.This race was stolen.
Senna was one of the greatest.
camarge 2 years ago
@camarge
Cut the crap. Prost was one of the best of all time too. 4 championships and 51 wins. In fact you should be grateful Senna was measured against him in the same car. Schumacher never had a Prost like team mate, just a number of handpicked number 2's like Verstappen, Herbert, Irvine and Barrichello.
Great mean are judged by other great men and Senna had Prost as team mate.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago 2
If you look only the speed of the cars you can see Beloff and Senna where the quickest. Beloff had no Turbo. He had problem on straight road to passing the other cars and he was also to much time behind cars. But the advantage of having no turbo was no turbolag at the end of the curves. You can see the action before tunnel. So its hard to say. Mansell and De Angelis also not bad. And Prost and Lauda? They had break problems? Ok! The other drivers had no chance.
pirlone808 2 years ago
Yes is true !
The turbo engine is a problème here...in the rain.
thank's
NARB57 2 years ago
I agree, in this conditions overall its an advantage to not have a turbocharged engine because of the turbolag and the resulting miserable drivability of these engines
Endorfinjunkie 2 years ago
@pirlone808
Turbos had trouble matching the pace of the normally aspirated cars in Monaco out of all places. For instance in 1983 when Piquet had far more horsepower in his Brabham-BMW than Rosberg had in his Williams-Ford. Piquet said the turbolag meant he simply rolled through many corners and floored it on the straight. Rosberg won the 1983 Monaco GP against all the turbo opposition.
In the rain turbocars were very difficult to control, and particularly in Monaco. Bellof had an advantage
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@pirlone808
Also you should know at the end of the 1984 season it was revealed Tyrrell had been cheating all year and had underweight cars. They just filled their tanks with lead bearings to make the minimum weight when controlled. So Bellof's car may have been some 100kilos lighter than the rest too, which coped with a normally aspirated engine was a huge advantage in a rain soaked Monaco.
As punishment Tyrrell lost all their points and rankings in the 1984 season.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@pirlone808
In rain, having a non-turbo engine is a huge advantage. Rosberg won in Monaco in 1983 driving a Williams-Cosworth V8, against the opposition who virtually all had way more powerful turbo-engines.
In Monaco out of all circuits outright power means the least, and in rain a smooth non-turbo engine is ideal
Bellof's Tyrrell was also underweight, since it was revealed that Tyrrell had used lots of lead bearings as ballast to pass the weight inspections.They were stripped of all points
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
what I see here is Prost being really fast: a gap of 2.6sec to 2nd Mansell and 6.8sec to 3d Arnoux, in just 2 laps! Mansell only catched Prost and overtook him when both McLaren started to have braking problems (wrong compound: brakes didn't warm properly). By some stage of the race, Prost was leading by 30 sec...... Senna was fantastic that day, but given circumstances, everyone seemed to forget the excellent race Prost performed as well.....
lucianoestivill 2 years ago
Absolutely....
NARB57 3 years ago
Prost The Loser...waving his hands... off his superior car´s stearingwheel.
Stop talking though your big nose french CHICKEN.
justclimb911 3 years ago
Depuis toutes ses années qui ont passé depuis sa mort ayrton est toujours dans mon coeur et personne ne peux le remplacer.
doctormarkon 3 years ago