This will Affects small businesses, families, and even large businesses (corporations) It will hurt us and them that is in Canadian business. So I think the big boys should step in and help the average people to take down this insane idea.
A large portion of data users are students, students with little to no income. Why are they squeezing every penny from us? How are they allowed to mark internet use up by over 4000x their actual cost? Corporations these days are supposed to be building up ethical activity but when they do things like this how are we supposed to believe they even know what it is to be ethical?
this is why CANADA INTERNET CAPS need to go. Look at this ROGERS internet bill for a user using 916GB in one month, $1800 !! Look at the markup ROGERS made.
at .03 cents a GB at cost to ISP 916GB = $30 give or take would cost ISP. They charged this poor sucker $1800 for downloading 916GB over the christmas holidays!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE PARTIES THAT SUPPORT BIG CORPORATIONS...
BOYCOTT BIG CORPS AND THEIR PRODUCT AND SERVICES...
BELL, ROGERS, SHOPPERS, LOBLAWS, PETRO CANADA, ETC... ARE THE CANADIAN COMPANIES THAT CONTROL THE PRICING IN CANADA. FOR EXAMPLE LOBLAWS INCREASES THE FOOD PRICE AND THEN SMALL BUSINESSES JUST FOLLOW. IF PEOPLE DON'T SHOP AT LOBLAWS FOOD PRICE WON'T BE SO RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE. ONE LB GRAPE IN BASIC FOOD IS 88 CENT AND $2.99 IN LOBLAWS, WHY PEOPLE DON'T USE THEIR BRAIN......
Revenue doesn't tell us if it's really gouging, because revenue is only the gross take, it looks like they took that number to shock people, because can cover a lot of legitimate expenses. They didn't show enough of the bill to see what his usage was, and didn't give enough information to really form an opinion.
@WelfareScumRetard yeah, more baseless claims. Proof right there that, you, are just out to make people's lives miserable for your own enjoyment to get off to. Stop. Now.
@RootedLinuxBrian It's no secret that you're on welfare, along with your crackwhore mom. While your brother is a retarded mongoloid, at least I'll give him credit for having a job. Shit, he even dresses better than you, has his own apartment AND has a girlfriend.
I have to agree with the most comments. I also got caught with roaming charges... no where near as bad,but never again.There should be a voice statement on each call but why would they do that and not make money.
capitalism allows for anything for anything. Meaning, they will implement UBB at any turn if they had their way. With ever more growing oligarchies in USA, its bound to become a problem in near future, if FCC cannot get their act straight. Capitalism only deals with market forces, does not deal with the details of it, unfortunately. Don't get your hopes up. Large companies would prefer to buy off smaller ones, instead of competing with them.
Uhmm. I travel to Thailand almost every winter. I just buy a sim card there. Costs me $2 and I top it with with about $20 worth of credit and i'm good for almost 2 months if not more! And that includes calling back to Canada for about 3c a minute.
So If you are stupid enough to use your phone in another country with a CDN sim, and think you won't get hit with outrageous roaming charges. You are a no smarter than a traffic pylon.
"There's a sucker born every minute" -- P.T. Barnum
@jherikurl Yes, but just because something DOES cost a lot doesn't mean it SHOULD cost a lot. Phone companies and long distance charges is a good example. When services like Skype came into mainstream use you basically saw LD charges drop through the floor. When a minute of long distance costs our telecom company fractions of a cent, how can they justify charging you 50 cents? Or more?
Smaller sub-ISP's offer unlimited upstream and downstream bandwidth, and this Rogers faggot has to charge me for seeding torrents. So when someone downloads a torrent from me, their ISP charges that person, and my ISP (Rogers cocksuckers) charges me as well.
i reply i sure did but i dont remember initializing every page within the contract veryfying i actually read the papers... there is huge holes to get yourself out of contracts and well simply just use your head and you will get it done! i now dont owe bell a penny and im off my plan.
my cellphone got broken via washing machine, i contact bell and they say they cannot replace and to contact the company i got the cellphone from, inwhich i thought i bought the phone from bell but apparently i did not, i had to deal with an affiliate company who sold me the phone in order to get a new one. i then contact bell again and said i did not know i was signing a contract with another company other then bell. they said you signed the paper.... carried on next post
not only do they charge you up the ass, the also listen to every thing you say on the phone.
when i got bell internet i received a letter in the mail saying they have the right to send any and all information i am viewing wile using their services and they may send that information to a 3rd party.
What are you talking about? Ya, we need to fix this, but it's got nothing to do with them being Capitalists. The CRTC is the one that won't let the market run freely and introduce more competition to lower prices. Capitalism is the solution here, not the problem...
umm i live in canada and the rates suck a lot, but you have to be a complete retard to get a bill like this. idc if a text is 50$, i still wouldn't go this high.
I cancelled ALL Bell services because i was fed up with their business practices.
They still manage to charge me an additionnal $2.80 for the touch-tone service.
There has been no rotary dial telephone since the '70's but apparently Bell Canada still needs to charge us every month since the seventies to update their system to touch-tone.
Radio-Canada (french) has a T.V. program called "La Facture" that reports and investigates dishonest business practices and customer complaints and in an article it was said that more than HALF the complaints reported to the program were about Bell.
What happened in the full video is that this man went to Moscow on a student trip and didn't know that he had "roaming" checked off on his phone to allow the two carriers from Russia and Canada to provide him service. Although, there is still no explanation as to why the roaming rates are so high as it only costs the company $4 to allow him service in Russia. It also says in the full video that his total usage added up to about 1 hour.
Simple answer to this, more competition in the market such as how the USA (they have tons of cell companies). We overpay for everything here. I got my first cell phone (government plan) which gives 250 minutes, per second after the 1st minute, call waiting, call display, voicemail, 3-way calling, texting (250 outgoing unlimited incoming), free from 6pm-8am and on weekends. Total is about $34-$35 per month. I think I should only be paying $20-$25 monthly, look at what others pay in the world.....
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i hate big companies like Bell,Rogers and etc.but the worst of them all is Bell....plz sign the petition and send it to all of your friend and ppl who u know...wtf,those big company think of us...they think that we are dumb but they forgot that we are the one who made them big and we can the one who will screw them!!!!
Considering that no matter who you you have as an ISP or Carrier, your money will always end up in the Big 3's pockets, because they own the infrastructure and most of the smaller ISPs and Carriers are only leasing the lines and/or cell towers... So unless we go without internet, cell service, telephone service, cable etc... We cannot "screw" them as you so eloquently put it... And THAT is what's wrong here in Canada.
@m1ndtr1p u are rite...money always goes up....i don t have prob with the price going up but now they are exaggerating...and the worst part is that our so called leaders are doing nothing....CRTC is not doing enough to protect us (the consumers)
I never said money goes up, I said the money always ends up in Bell, Rogers' and Telus' pockets, regardless of what carrier or ISP you chose, because they own about 97% of the infrastructure in Canada and lease the towers and lines to other smaller ISPs and carriers who, at the end of the day, gives them your money.
I know Bell and Telus are full of douches but I have been a Rogers customer for over 3 years now and I never had any problem with their service...and bills even...(touchwood)....
Just look at the way the net and cellphones are being used. Most of the usage is for completely unimportant crap, like 2 word texts, facebook/twitter and Youtube. When it comes down to it. If you don't like the service, dont buy it. ppl talk about it like you need it to live. You don't. We are clogging up the bandwidth of the internet and celltowers with garbage. Just look at what happens during emergencies, lets Facebook/twitter it all at once. Crash everything. what a joke.
I think its inevitable that the internet moves to smart phones exclusively. The only thing computers will be used for in the future is gaming, and that too will likely migrate to smart phones. We need to protect ourselves on the journey toward that, not by boycotting the products but by making EVERYONE aware of the implications of letting these corporations run rampant with our rights and freedoms.
My Bell bill slowly increases by about $5 at least 4 times a year. After at least half hour on the phone to someone I can barly understand, the problem is magically resolved. "we put you on a new plan", sry bub dont think I signed a new contract. Never see my 5 bucks again though. f'n crooks.
@archdevilneverfails Technically, they are a different form of capitalist... A capitalist have to accept competition and not try to put a knife behind the back of any competitor, the market have to be somewhat free of access. To keep it simple: anyone could open a coffee shop, but rare are the one who could put antennas and use air-wave for cell phones. It's an oligopoly, which mean the rule of the free-market should not really applied because it's not a free market.
@therrydicule Oligopolies operate in the free market, the free market makes them competitive until there are only the few, best producers left in the market. Just because they have fewer competitors doesn't make those companies less competitive, it makes them ~more~ competitive with each other... for "market share" which is everything to them. This is true in every industry, capitalism isn't different anywhere. In economics, it's taught firms are always price acceptors, never price setters!
@DOHC2L Too Broad! You have to look at the particular situation. Telecommunication was seen as a possible natural monopoly since it is costly to put tower and cable. Plus, it was a new market where competition did not have so much time to go in business. To put it simply, name 15 cell phone company operating in Canada before 2001. I'm pretty sure you can't. Even with the increasing in technological development, there is only something like 25 phone companies in Canada and 37 ISP.
@archdevilneverfails the problem is not capitalism, its "regulation". its a basic monopoly of the three big players. There needs to be MORE competition, less CTRC and regulation.
@silverbladz0 Every Citizen should have a house/Condo with fully functional utilities and top quality services such as High speed internet,gas,phone and electricity 24/7 from the government,no one should pay hundreds of thousands of Dollars for a shelter or otherwise sleep in the streets freezing to death.People shouldn't work for 8-16 hours per day like slaves barely feeling their lives,the standard work hours should be 6 hours per day.Emigration must stop because the country is full.
This video doesn't bring up two very important points. One, the customer is 100% responsible for such a high bill. It is the customers responsibility to check the rates BEFORE roaming in another country, or to order a roaming package that offers a better rate PRIOR to going on their trip out of country. Two, there is no such thing as an "unfair" price. Prices are set based on what the market will bear. High markups exist everywhere. Buy some batteries at Future Shop guess what they are marked u
I hate the telecom companies as much as anyone else. And I haven't seen the whole story here. But is it just me, or does Perry Franz seem like he might not be the brightest bulb in the box? How the hell do you rack up a bill that enormous?
i canceled my contract with bell, the operator said i have 10 gigs of speed but its not my fault if my cables cant support the speed that i am paying for.
its bullshit, does anyone have good company recommendation?
@eidius1989 first of all do you need the connection for home or office use? second of all are you sure it's 10 GB and 10 MB? Also do you want speed or bandwidth?
@djinn690 sorry i meant 10mb while i am only getting 1mb speed Maximum, this means that if my speed reaches 1mb then the other computers connected to my wireless lose their connection, my computer keeps it connections because it is connected by freaking ethernet.
any company that gives me more than 1mb and unlimited down/upload then that would be great, of course i dont want to pay hundreds for modem set up and leases.
@eidius1989 ISPs typically advertise in MegaBITS per second, you're measuring in MegaBYTES per second. And then, you never get everything you're paying for, so 1 MegaByte/s on a 10MegaBit line seems about right to me, unfortunately!
BELL DOES NOT HAVE A MONOPOLY YOU IDIOTS. For cell service, you have three choices: BELL, TELUS, ROGERS (just like in the United States now that AT&T has bought T-Mobile). For home phone, internet, and cable, you have BELL or Rogers or BELL or Videotron.
I used to be a billing representative for a major phone service provider. Since working for them and handling customer calls about billing charges, I have been using Pre-paid vouchers for my phone so as to never get a surprising phone bill
Use to be a Rogers and Telus customer. Since switching to Wind Mobile I have NEVER looked back. Great reception, SUPERIOR customer service and SUPERIOR PRICE. I pay $25 for unlimited canada/usa text, unlimited local & canada wide calling, caller id, and voice mail. No hidden fees, no contract. I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ROBELUS or their crappy sub-brands (chat-r, koodo, etc).
Over 3/4's of Canada's population is located within 90 miles of the US border so geography is not the problem, greed is.
Wind Mobile beats out bell's rogers and telus's ass (and their sorry excuses for wanker company aliases known as Chat-R, Koodo and Solo) by providing much cheaper and better services. Velcom is one HELL of a better ISP regardless of the occasional outages that do occur (recent one was a power outage at their offices in brampton), ROGERS are THIEVES!!! Just my two cents.
Heck, it's even in my video response's description.
@ddrcrono 7-11 wireless runs on top of Rogers' network. I stopped using them when they took away the 15c/min option (available with purchase of $70 recharge), leaving only 25c/min option.
If you are in the cities you are much better off with Mobilicity or Wind Mobile.
Ironically I am being guaged as I watch this. Funny Paradox is that I would not know this petition exsisted if it wasn't for "Rogers in my case" providing me internet. They are just as bad. Duopolies are just as bad.
While our data plans are expensive I am willing to wager this guy created his own problem as keldorr described nicely. The issue in Canada isn't only competition, consolidation is actually good in telecommunications to leverage economies of scale.
The biggest issue for Canada is our geography. We are a big country and sparsely populated. This makes it very expensive to have cellphone towers everywhere unlike USA or America where there are more revenue generating customers per square foot. But t
@Rukaribe The excuse of geography is BS... over 90% of Canadians live in the southern part of the province. What's happening is total gouging and for this price, then they should have all the money they need to put up cell towers!
Ok I'm not sure what the guy did to make his bill go up to $17,000? That's just ridiculous, I mean I can't blame everything on Rogers and Bell! However, we have the most expensive cellphone/data plans in Canada especially compared to the US. It's ridiculous how much less people are paying down south. Same thing goes for Europe. We are getting raped here that's for sure. Internet, cell phone and cable are just way too expensive.
Pointless video. Too short, too little relevant info. Anyone could take their phone and rack up a crazy huge bill in any country. Doesn't prove Canada's situation is particularly bad or good.
If the customer had purchased an appropriate plan to cover their over-seas use during the trip, according to the Telus rep I heard, that plan could have been had for around $100.
Instead, the customer didn't do that (because they didn't even consider the repercussions, I guess), and then when Telus disabled the data plan upon seeing the spike in usage, the customer demanded it be re-enabled, thus willingly incurring the costs.
To play Devil's advocate... I recently heard a story about another person (Telus customer I think) who vacationed in Egypt (I think that's correct), and came home to something like a $15000 bill.
The details, though, revealed that Telus had noticed the foreign data use, saw it was going to rack up costs, to disabled the data account and contacted the customer. The customer demanded the service be re-enabled, and Telus complied.
Overpopulation I'm sure is one reason that the guns and crimes are higher in the US than Canada, probably a law of averages kind of thing. I think we're a lot more alike than different, as far as the ignorant part I spend a lot of time in the US and besides the fact they don't really seem to know geography all that well, we're very, very similar. Plus they have Hawaii, not to mention the U.S. Virgin Islands. What do we have that comes close to that kind of climate, B.C.?
As much as I would like to support this, this video has little useful substance. You will have to do better than this to attract the notice of intelligent people.
I think the best way to get the attention of providers is to quit giving them more money. It’s a tough thing to do and certainly not possible for everyone, but if more people did as I did and terminated their contracts with providers on renewal, they might get the message. Meanwhile I’ll wait until Canada adopts a model similar to that of Europe. Of course with Harper supporting big business, that’s likely not going to happen anytime soon (and I'll continue living in this prehistoric country).
While I agree that carriers charge way too much for service, roaming, data and everything else, it's not completely their fault that people are getting huge bills like this... If people would take the time to read their contract agreements or the terms of service on the carrier's website, these issues wouldn't happen so often... I've been using smartphones for years, even before they became trendy, and I've never had a insanely huge bill... So the blame goes both ways, not just to the carriers.
Not at all, I said the exact opposite... While the carriers are gouging customers, no doubt about that, the majority of those who get huge surprise bills just don't know how to use their service and don't bother to read up about it until its already too late. So yes, there are many cases that it's both the customer's and the carrier's fault... Ignorance isn't an excuse, would you buy a car or house without first reading the contract you're signing and trying to understand everything?
No you didn't, you didn't trace sh*t... You don't have any idea how to do such things... For a 38 year old, you sure act like a 13 year old child with all the schoolyard insults and lies... Grow up and at least act your age, idiot.
The fact is, many smartphone users have absolutely no idea how to use them, and simply don't know about overage charges for data and roaming, and yes that's their fault... But carriers are charging way too much for service and roaming here in Canada.
Typical reply from someone who cannot form a decent argument, grow up.
I'm not defending anyone... Have you actually read anything I've posted?
Seems you have deeper issues than getting gouged by carriers, you might want to see a doctor or psychiatrist for that... I suggest some anger management, you seem to be easily angered by even the littlest things, you need some serious help.
Bell Canada is despicable. And not just the cel phone services. I fought with them for years with my landline bills. Suffice it to say we had a very bad break-up and I will NEVER return to their services.
I managed to get cash back for a friend who was billed for over usage , by complaining after the news by Bell that a faulty meter was reported. They could not verify the meter ever worked as I have complained nor that is still works , The feds do not check it like is done for gas sales and I can be faked , hacked if I get your password or MAC or IP faked , If it can not be trusted then why bill based on it ?
You guys do realize this video is just clips from the Latest CBC Documentary Canada Biggest Cell Phone Bill... This isn't their Special effects, or anything.
all open media made was the text slides.
And thats good enough for Youtube, Save the money they raised for actual TV commercials
We are getting hosed by our telecom/cable companies. It's time to take a stand. We pay more and get less. South of the border they are paying half of what we are paying and getting more.
Canada has some of the most expensive cell phone rates in the world. Our government has conspired with monopoly providers to rob us for years. In Asia you can get a free SIM chip when you buy $5 worth of stuff at 7-11 and then a 100 minutes of airtime will cost another $3 or so. North America to Asia long distance costs.. 5cents a minute. Canadian cell phones cost upwards of 50 minute for local calls... It's time for a criminal investigation, and an election.
@CinestirFilms its true that companies such as rogers and bell are overly charging our bills, however our density is low compared to the cities in asia, therefore, it takes more money for them to develop a phone network for a low density but a large area.
@nzca Yeah that's true but it's not like they're just breaking even every month.. They are making billions of dollars. They're totally entitled to make billions of dollars but they are also entitled to have people calling them gouging fuckheads too.
@G3arJammer This, but they have to be exposed for doing this. It's no good to know someone is a thief unless they are dealt with as a thief, goes the same for a person or a company.
I have no problem with them making double, triple or so the amount it costs them to do this. If the cost of transferring data wirelessly is truly that little ($15000:$4) and they're crying poor, then I'll do without a data plan, thanks.
Come on, Open Media. You can do better than this. Don't make your supporters look like fools - put some real facts into a video... and cut your special effects budget, it isn't doing us any favours.
I'm all for taking down Bell and company, but I am also against propaganda from any side of a debate. This clip doesn't provide any real or meaningful information, and they only get the opinion of a single person. They don't even mention what this man specializes in, simply that he is a Professor.
Take down Bell, Shaw, Rogers, CRTC, etc. and give Canadians a telecommunications market to be proud of. If you try to mislead, though, then you are just as much an enemy as them. Be honest and clear
@Specusci I've seen these kinds of videos before, but the full video. I can't remember the name of the TV station that did it, but a quick search will find them for you.
@Specusci I agree that unsubstantiated claims are not helping the cause any. That being said...its awfully difficult to get the information we need when they are the caretakers of that information. I believe we should be able get the info from them so we can dispute what they say. If they make claims then they should back them up with REAL data. They are just as guilty of doctoring info to make thier cause!!!
@Specusci I agree that unsubstantiated claims are not helping the cause any. That being said...its awfully difficult to get the information we need when they are the caretakers of that information. I believe we should be able get the info from them so we can dispute what they say. If they make claims then they should back them up with REAL data. They are just as guilty of doctoring info to make thier cause!!!
@Specusci Agreed, but also.. The video is 1:04 long, you get 3 major pieces of information:
- 94% of the market is controlled by 3 companies,
- those companies get roughly $17 billion dollars annually
- the cost of data to the customer is grossly inflated than the actual cost the telecom companies pay.
That's one bit of pertinent info roughly every 30 seconds. It's not a 10 minute information video, so take it for what it is: something to motivate you to investigate for yourself.
@Specusci It's an excerpt from a longer television program. Before labeling it as "propaganda", you might have tried a Google search. The first result shows professor Keshav is the Canada Research Chair in Tetherless Computing at the University of Waterloo.
@Specusci I was with you until you said "a market to be proud of". Now you just sound like you work for one of these companies. Our telecom network is severely lagging behind other countries. Even in the USA, people complain about their network being behind the times, but plenty of people have unlimited data plans for $20-50/month. Here the best I could find is 1GB for $55/month. That's hardly something to be proud of.
Agreed though that this video contains no useful information.
@Specusci We decided to just give people a quick clip to show how Canadians are being gouged. We put a link to the full segment on CBC Marketplace in the video description. People who want to get more information should watch the full video or go to the OpenMedia.ca website.
The costs incurred by your average telecom company for what they charge is ridiculous.
Texts cost (on average) 25 cents per. Cost to company, close to nothing. (0.0001 cent approx).
Data costs almost nothing. All it costs is the electricity to send the information. Expansion of infrastructure is what costs them money, and that's to keep competitive. The professor was probably overestimating the cost to the company.
How is sharing this video going to help anyone?!?! It only has 321 views. I support OpenMedia and don't like what the CRTC is doing, but this video is so lame...I wouldn't share this on Facebook if it meant free internet for a year. Okay maybe for free internet, but that's not going to happen.
@FrostViral Video views don't get updated instantly... Given this is the number one commented video in Canada today, one would assume its probably got a few more than the advertised 321 views. Heck, its already got 229 likes...
There is a simple answer to this. Ditch the cell phone. Society functioned without them. You buy their lies, you pay their rates. Quite simple actually. I used to work for a cellular company when portables still came in large bags. The intent was never o provide a service, but to find loop holes to charge you. Smarten up.
The cell phone companies do have exorbitant rates when it comes to voice and data roaming. And also going over your data limit. I turn my cell phone off when i travel out of country and most people I know do this as well - its the only way to keep it affordable. I guess they figure they're going to make more money from really gouging the few people who don't turn off their phones than by charging affordable roaming rates that everyone who travels would pay. That's sad.
This will Affects small businesses, families, and even large businesses (corporations) It will hurt us and them that is in Canadian business. So I think the big boys should step in and help the average people to take down this insane idea.
DarkR27 11 months ago
A large portion of data users are students, students with little to no income. Why are they squeezing every penny from us? How are they allowed to mark internet use up by over 4000x their actual cost? Corporations these days are supposed to be building up ethical activity but when they do things like this how are we supposed to believe they even know what it is to be ethical?
tiredasfack 11 months ago
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abobo1 11 months ago
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abobo1 11 months ago
this is why CANADA INTERNET CAPS need to go. Look at this ROGERS internet bill for a user using 916GB in one month, $1800 !! Look at the markup ROGERS made.
at .03 cents a GB at cost to ISP 916GB = $30 give or take would cost ISP. They charged this poor sucker $1800 for downloading 916GB over the christmas holidays!!!!!!!!!!
ROGERS AND BELL = BURN IN HELL
abobo1 11 months ago
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE PARTIES THAT SUPPORT BIG CORPORATIONS...
BOYCOTT BIG CORPS AND THEIR PRODUCT AND SERVICES...
BELL, ROGERS, SHOPPERS, LOBLAWS, PETRO CANADA, ETC... ARE THE CANADIAN COMPANIES THAT CONTROL THE PRICING IN CANADA. FOR EXAMPLE LOBLAWS INCREASES THE FOOD PRICE AND THEN SMALL BUSINESSES JUST FOLLOW. IF PEOPLE DON'T SHOP AT LOBLAWS FOOD PRICE WON'T BE SO RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE. ONE LB GRAPE IN BASIC FOOD IS 88 CENT AND $2.99 IN LOBLAWS, WHY PEOPLE DON'T USE THEIR BRAIN......
qtoop1 11 months ago
Welcome to Canadian Monopoly.
MacHamish 11 months ago
What kind of idiot do you have to be to rack up a $17000 cell phone bill
MrChrisGordon 11 months ago
stop downloading porn on your iBerries and you won't get retarded cell phone bills
now that said i do believe the prices are overkill
llikrevo 11 months ago
ALL we need is more competition between telecom companies.
the telecom companies have just bought out their competition for ownership, we just need more companies then they can buy
hd92122 11 months ago
Revenue doesn't tell us if it's really gouging, because revenue is only the gross take, it looks like they took that number to shock people, because can cover a lot of legitimate expenses. They didn't show enough of the bill to see what his usage was, and didn't give enough information to really form an opinion.
JeffDM 11 months ago
@WelfareScumRetard yeah, more baseless claims. Proof right there that, you, are just out to make people's lives miserable for your own enjoyment to get off to. Stop. Now.
RootedLinuxBrian 11 months ago
ma bell is a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mike196606 11 months ago
@WelfareScumRetard more FALSE ACCUSATIONS with NOTHING to back them up. Stop tricking people and misleading them, stop with your baseless claims.
RootedLinuxBrian 11 months ago
@RootedLinuxBrian It's no secret that you're on welfare, along with your crackwhore mom. While your brother is a retarded mongoloid, at least I'll give him credit for having a job. Shit, he even dresses better than you, has his own apartment AND has a girlfriend.
WelfareScumRetard 11 months ago
@WelfareScumRetard
Troll.
I suspect whatever you said here relates to your own life.
How sad.
YoungSpotUBrock 11 months ago
I don't need sex, I get fucked by bell everyday
Akushanum1 11 months ago
I have to agree with the most comments. I also got caught with roaming charges... no where near as bad,but never again.There should be a voice statement on each call but why would they do that and not make money.
mrgareblack 11 months ago
@YoungSpotUBrock
wtf are u talking about? How would capitalism bring skyrocketing prices? The states has phone and internet at a quarter (or less) of the price...
manbearpig2915 11 months ago
@manbearpig2915
Sorry bro,
capitalism allows for anything for anything. Meaning, they will implement UBB at any turn if they had their way. With ever more growing oligarchies in USA, its bound to become a problem in near future, if FCC cannot get their act straight. Capitalism only deals with market forces, does not deal with the details of it, unfortunately. Don't get your hopes up. Large companies would prefer to buy off smaller ones, instead of competing with them.
YoungSpotUBrock 11 months ago
Uhmm. I travel to Thailand almost every winter. I just buy a sim card there. Costs me $2 and I top it with with about $20 worth of credit and i'm good for almost 2 months if not more! And that includes calling back to Canada for about 3c a minute.
So If you are stupid enough to use your phone in another country with a CDN sim, and think you won't get hit with outrageous roaming charges. You are a no smarter than a traffic pylon.
"There's a sucker born every minute" -- P.T. Barnum
jherikurl 11 months ago
@jherikurl Yes, but just because something DOES cost a lot doesn't mean it SHOULD cost a lot. Phone companies and long distance charges is a good example. When services like Skype came into mainstream use you basically saw LD charges drop through the floor. When a minute of long distance costs our telecom company fractions of a cent, how can they justify charging you 50 cents? Or more?
Same applies here. It's ridiculous.
j1mmyd33 11 months ago
Bell sucks, theres ALWAYS extra charges .
rayhall0 11 months ago
The guy is an idiot for not knowing that Roaming charges are extra...hell THEY EVEN SAY THAT...
Idiots..
dc619 11 months ago
correct me if im wrong, but isnt price gouging from gas stations illegal?
if so, shouldnt this same principle apply to telecom
cheesyman123 11 months ago
perry franz is a dumbass, everyone knows roaming is expensive
bigjohn377 11 months ago
just tell me wut to do, i would give anything to watch bell and rogers pay! fuck you bell
jeffbriggs1987 11 months ago
Smaller sub-ISP's offer unlimited upstream and downstream bandwidth, and this Rogers faggot has to charge me for seeding torrents. So when someone downloads a torrent from me, their ISP charges that person, and my ISP (Rogers cocksuckers) charges me as well.
logicCplusplus 11 months ago
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logicCplusplus 11 months ago
I get royally fucked by Rogers
TheBelligerentPanda 11 months ago
i reply i sure did but i dont remember initializing every page within the contract veryfying i actually read the papers... there is huge holes to get yourself out of contracts and well simply just use your head and you will get it done! i now dont owe bell a penny and im off my plan.
GFXSupport 11 months ago
my cellphone got broken via washing machine, i contact bell and they say they cannot replace and to contact the company i got the cellphone from, inwhich i thought i bought the phone from bell but apparently i did not, i had to deal with an affiliate company who sold me the phone in order to get a new one. i then contact bell again and said i did not know i was signing a contract with another company other then bell. they said you signed the paper.... carried on next post
GFXSupport 11 months ago
Don't use their services. Problem solved.
BriansVideoHobby 11 months ago
@BriansVideoHobby
problem: no other providers.
YoungSpotUBrock 11 months ago
@YoungSpotUBrock Solution: It's not food. Don't use them.
BriansVideoHobby 11 months ago
@BriansVideoHobby
Problem: I won't be able to comment like I do here. Should I stop using phone too? lol.
YoungSpotUBrock 11 months ago
@YoungSpotUBrock Solution: Use library computers.
BriansVideoHobby 11 months ago
not only do they charge you up the ass, the also listen to every thing you say on the phone.
when i got bell internet i received a letter in the mail saying they have the right to send any and all information i am viewing wile using their services and they may send that information to a 3rd party.
IcomeINpeaceisim 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails
What are you talking about? Ya, we need to fix this, but it's got nothing to do with them being Capitalists. The CRTC is the one that won't let the market run freely and introduce more competition to lower prices. Capitalism is the solution here, not the problem...
manbearpig2915 11 months ago
@manbearpig2915
problem: capitalism isn't solving it.
If capitalism was to take hold, you'd have usage based billing and whole other skyrocketing prices.
Good luck.
YoungSpotUBrock 11 months ago
umm i live in canada and the rates suck a lot, but you have to be a complete retard to get a bill like this. idc if a text is 50$, i still wouldn't go this high.
this doesn't even make sense...
vespers119 11 months ago
Fuckers!
ChebbsMastaFlex 11 months ago
Fk bell rogers your cell phones cost so much i can even have one =( something need to be done!!!!
AbceIOWNU 11 months ago
We (our faimlly) cut off every single services we had with Bell , they are the worst EVER.
xXbelmontXx 11 months ago
@xXbelmontXx but the problem is that other company arent mutch better... all the telecom company control us...
Abyte0 11 months ago
I cancelled ALL Bell services because i was fed up with their business practices.
They still manage to charge me an additionnal $2.80 for the touch-tone service.
There has been no rotary dial telephone since the '70's but apparently Bell Canada still needs to charge us every month since the seventies to update their system to touch-tone.
MMMisterDNA 11 months ago
Also:
Radio-Canada (french) has a T.V. program called "La Facture" that reports and investigates dishonest business practices and customer complaints and in an article it was said that more than HALF the complaints reported to the program were about Bell.
Google: "Bell Canada émission la facture moitié"
And you'll see for yourself.
MMMisterDNA 11 months ago
bell has the worst services.
fallzapart 11 months ago
What happened in the full video is that this man went to Moscow on a student trip and didn't know that he had "roaming" checked off on his phone to allow the two carriers from Russia and Canada to provide him service. Although, there is still no explanation as to why the roaming rates are so high as it only costs the company $4 to allow him service in Russia. It also says in the full video that his total usage added up to about 1 hour.
SkillingFTW 11 months ago
WTF bell... just WTF....
koya25555 11 months ago 2
I would welcome more foreign companies to provide cell/internet/tv as long as it drove the prices down. More competition tends to do that.
silverboyzzz 11 months ago 2
Simple answer to this, more competition in the market such as how the USA (they have tons of cell companies). We overpay for everything here. I got my first cell phone (government plan) which gives 250 minutes, per second after the 1st minute, call waiting, call display, voicemail, 3-way calling, texting (250 outgoing unlimited incoming), free from 6pm-8am and on weekends. Total is about $34-$35 per month. I think I should only be paying $20-$25 monthly, look at what others pay in the world.....
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AbsoluteZeroMusic 11 months ago
Burn.
Fucking.
CRTC.
Still trying to use some old ass infrastructure for the country with the highest per capita internet usage in the world.
When are these right-winged idiots going to realize this is going to fail eventually?
ClementKor 11 months ago
HOLLLYYY
aimiez 11 months ago
professor ketchup?
weber111116 11 months ago
i hate big companies like Bell,Rogers and etc.but the worst of them all is Bell....plz sign the petition and send it to all of your friend and ppl who u know...wtf,those big company think of us...they think that we are dumb but they forgot that we are the one who made them big and we can the one who will screw them!!!!
ssproduction2010 11 months ago
@ssproduction2010
Considering that no matter who you you have as an ISP or Carrier, your money will always end up in the Big 3's pockets, because they own the infrastructure and most of the smaller ISPs and Carriers are only leasing the lines and/or cell towers... So unless we go without internet, cell service, telephone service, cable etc... We cannot "screw" them as you so eloquently put it... And THAT is what's wrong here in Canada.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
@m1ndtr1p u are rite...money always goes up....i don t have prob with the price going up but now they are exaggerating...and the worst part is that our so called leaders are doing nothing....CRTC is not doing enough to protect us (the consumers)
ssproduction2010 11 months ago
@ssproduction2010
I never said money goes up, I said the money always ends up in Bell, Rogers' and Telus' pockets, regardless of what carrier or ISP you chose, because they own about 97% of the infrastructure in Canada and lease the towers and lines to other smaller ISPs and carriers who, at the end of the day, gives them your money.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
I know Bell and Telus are full of douches but I have been a Rogers customer for over 3 years now and I never had any problem with their service...and bills even...(touchwood)....
Chakdegirl 11 months ago
suck
loveadmon 11 months ago
and i only get 40gigs a month... -.- pisses me off
hadi447 11 months ago
Just look at the way the net and cellphones are being used. Most of the usage is for completely unimportant crap, like 2 word texts, facebook/twitter and Youtube. When it comes down to it. If you don't like the service, dont buy it. ppl talk about it like you need it to live. You don't. We are clogging up the bandwidth of the internet and celltowers with garbage. Just look at what happens during emergencies, lets Facebook/twitter it all at once. Crash everything. what a joke.
MoobsAlwaysFumbles 11 months ago
I think its inevitable that the internet moves to smart phones exclusively. The only thing computers will be used for in the future is gaming, and that too will likely migrate to smart phones. We need to protect ourselves on the journey toward that, not by boycotting the products but by making EVERYONE aware of the implications of letting these corporations run rampant with our rights and freedoms.
krizpy86 11 months ago
My Bell bill slowly increases by about $5 at least 4 times a year. After at least half hour on the phone to someone I can barly understand, the problem is magically resolved. "we put you on a new plan", sry bub dont think I signed a new contract. Never see my 5 bucks again though. f'n crooks.
DubWoodcock 11 months ago
we need a revolution in Canada to get rid of these scumbags Capitalists once and for all.
archdevilneverfails 11 months ago 36
@archdevilneverfails If you think Capitalists are scum bags who do you work for ?
imN0Ttheone 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails Technically, they are a different form of capitalist... A capitalist have to accept competition and not try to put a knife behind the back of any competitor, the market have to be somewhat free of access. To keep it simple: anyone could open a coffee shop, but rare are the one who could put antennas and use air-wave for cell phones. It's an oligopoly, which mean the rule of the free-market should not really applied because it's not a free market.
therrydicule 11 months ago
@therrydicule Oligopolies operate in the free market, the free market makes them competitive until there are only the few, best producers left in the market. Just because they have fewer competitors doesn't make those companies less competitive, it makes them ~more~ competitive with each other... for "market share" which is everything to them. This is true in every industry, capitalism isn't different anywhere. In economics, it's taught firms are always price acceptors, never price setters!
DOHC2L 11 months ago
@DOHC2L Too Broad! You have to look at the particular situation. Telecommunication was seen as a possible natural monopoly since it is costly to put tower and cable. Plus, it was a new market where competition did not have so much time to go in business. To put it simply, name 15 cell phone company operating in Canada before 2001. I'm pretty sure you can't. Even with the increasing in technological development, there is only something like 25 phone companies in Canada and 37 ISP.
therrydicule 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails the problem is not capitalism, its "regulation". its a basic monopoly of the three big players. There needs to be MORE competition, less CTRC and regulation.
dohboy200 11 months ago 2
@archdevilneverfails Eat the rich!!!!!!
mrfoltz 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails
When are we going to start talking about a global revolution?
thinkahol 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails You ever want to have a house of your own? Then you're a capitalist...
silverbladz0 11 months ago
@silverbladz0 Every Citizen should have a house/Condo with fully functional utilities and top quality services such as High speed internet,gas,phone and electricity 24/7 from the government,no one should pay hundreds of thousands of Dollars for a shelter or otherwise sleep in the streets freezing to death.People shouldn't work for 8-16 hours per day like slaves barely feeling their lives,the standard work hours should be 6 hours per day.Emigration must stop because the country is full.
archdevilneverfails 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails What I meant is that capitalism is in fact simply a system which allows you to own what you want
silverbladz0 11 months ago
@silverbladz0 socialism stands for preventing individuals from owning public institutions and facilities.
owning a house is a basic right for every citizen.
archdevilneverfails 11 months ago
@archdevilneverfails You're right about this, sry but I was kind of in a hurry when I wrote this so I didn't really think about this while typing
silverbladz0 11 months ago
Everyone should really like and favourite these openmedia videos and other anti UBB videos to spread them more.
Attack3Gamer 11 months ago
I watched this on marketplace...
CountryGalAt11 11 months ago
This video doesn't bring up two very important points. One, the customer is 100% responsible for such a high bill. It is the customers responsibility to check the rates BEFORE roaming in another country, or to order a roaming package that offers a better rate PRIOR to going on their trip out of country. Two, there is no such thing as an "unfair" price. Prices are set based on what the market will bear. High markups exist everywhere. Buy some batteries at Future Shop guess what they are marked u
lorenfisher 11 months ago
@lorenfisher
How do you concentrate with Bell up your butt so far?
All the rest of us are asking for is a little lube.
If you enjoy the sting, stop yapping about it in public, that's your private kink.
dangerousbeak 11 months ago
I hate the telecom companies as much as anyone else. And I haven't seen the whole story here. But is it just me, or does Perry Franz seem like he might not be the brightest bulb in the box? How the hell do you rack up a bill that enormous?
jherikurl 11 months ago 6
17,000????? as if bell didnt have enough money already, that they had to put a man that far in debt..
RoXxXtA 11 months ago
17,000????? as if bell didnt have enough money already that they had to put a man that far in debt..
RoXxXtA 11 months ago
i canceled my contract with bell, the operator said i have 10 gigs of speed but its not my fault if my cables cant support the speed that i am paying for.
its bullshit, does anyone have good company recommendation?
eidius1989 11 months ago
@eidius1989 first of all do you need the connection for home or office use? second of all are you sure it's 10 GB and 10 MB? Also do you want speed or bandwidth?
djinn690 11 months ago
@djinn690 sorry i meant 10mb while i am only getting 1mb speed Maximum, this means that if my speed reaches 1mb then the other computers connected to my wireless lose their connection, my computer keeps it connections because it is connected by freaking ethernet.
any company that gives me more than 1mb and unlimited down/upload then that would be great, of course i dont want to pay hundreds for modem set up and leases.
eidius1989 11 months ago
@eidius1989
You obviously have no idea how speed is measured... 1 MB/s is roughly what you get (really supposed to be 1.2MB/s) out of a 10 mbps line.
You're downloading at 1 megabyte per second.
Your ISP advertises 10 megabits per second
Take what your ISP advertises and divide by 8 and you get your speed in megabytes per second, which is roughly 1.25 MB/s... That's how its calculated.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
@eidius1989 Try Primus. Unlimited bandwidth and speeds of up to 5mbs. which means your download speed is only going to be 500-600 kb/s
djinn690 11 months ago
@djinn690 why? why would my supposed 5mbs drop to 500-600 kbs? where does the rest of the 4.5mgs go?
eidius1989 11 months ago
@eidius1989 ISPs typically advertise in MegaBITS per second, you're measuring in MegaBYTES per second. And then, you never get everything you're paying for, so 1 MegaByte/s on a 10MegaBit line seems about right to me, unfortunately!
djinn690 11 months ago
@djinn690 isn't that false advertisement? cant i sue them for it?
eidius1989 11 months ago
BELL DOES NOT HAVE A MONOPOLY YOU IDIOTS. For cell service, you have three choices: BELL, TELUS, ROGERS (just like in the United States now that AT&T has bought T-Mobile). For home phone, internet, and cable, you have BELL or Rogers or BELL or Videotron.
dexterworks 11 months ago
@dexterworks You apparantly don't know what a cartel is.
sportfan91 11 months ago
You can notice that he at least got a 5$ Bundle Savings...
chrisgratton 11 months ago
Greedy mobile companies
coolmanben99 11 months ago
I used to be a billing representative for a major phone service provider. Since working for them and handling customer calls about billing charges, I have been using Pre-paid vouchers for my phone so as to never get a surprising phone bill
chatter101010 11 months ago
Use to be a Rogers and Telus customer. Since switching to Wind Mobile I have NEVER looked back. Great reception, SUPERIOR customer service and SUPERIOR PRICE. I pay $25 for unlimited canada/usa text, unlimited local & canada wide calling, caller id, and voice mail. No hidden fees, no contract. I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ROBELUS or their crappy sub-brands (chat-r, koodo, etc).
Over 3/4's of Canada's population is located within 90 miles of the US border so geography is not the problem, greed is.
geom128 11 months ago
Wind Mobile beats out bell's rogers and telus's ass (and their sorry excuses for wanker company aliases known as Chat-R, Koodo and Solo) by providing much cheaper and better services. Velcom is one HELL of a better ISP regardless of the occasional outages that do occur (recent one was a power outage at their offices in brampton), ROGERS are THIEVES!!! Just my two cents.
Heck, it's even in my video response's description.
RootedLinuxBrian 11 months ago
7-11 wireless for life. At least I can't run up a bill that way.
ddrcrono 11 months ago
@ddrcrono 7-11 wireless runs on top of Rogers' network. I stopped using them when they took away the 15c/min option (available with purchase of $70 recharge), leaving only 25c/min option.
If you are in the cities you are much better off with Mobilicity or Wind Mobile.
mrjcleaver 11 months ago
Ironically I am being guaged as I watch this. Funny Paradox is that I would not know this petition exsisted if it wasn't for "Rogers in my case" providing me internet. They are just as bad. Duopolies are just as bad.
Firdaush0 11 months ago
While our data plans are expensive I am willing to wager this guy created his own problem as keldorr described nicely. The issue in Canada isn't only competition, consolidation is actually good in telecommunications to leverage economies of scale.
The biggest issue for Canada is our geography. We are a big country and sparsely populated. This makes it very expensive to have cellphone towers everywhere unlike USA or America where there are more revenue generating customers per square foot. But t
Rukaribe 11 months ago
@Rukaribe The excuse of geography is BS... over 90% of Canadians live in the southern part of the province. What's happening is total gouging and for this price, then they should have all the money they need to put up cell towers!
eyerhymemusic 11 months ago
Ok I'm not sure what the guy did to make his bill go up to $17,000? That's just ridiculous, I mean I can't blame everything on Rogers and Bell! However, we have the most expensive cellphone/data plans in Canada especially compared to the US. It's ridiculous how much less people are paying down south. Same thing goes for Europe. We are getting raped here that's for sure. Internet, cell phone and cable are just way too expensive.
1983Jacko 11 months ago
Pointless video. Too short, too little relevant info. Anyone could take their phone and rack up a crazy huge bill in any country. Doesn't prove Canada's situation is particularly bad or good.
trajanc 11 months ago
okay but what kinds of calls did he make?
I'm against the meter as well, but you can't post videos that tell half the story
TheGurry 11 months ago
@TheGurry The full video is posted in the description.
1983Jacko 11 months ago
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they are greedy
p266 11 months ago
they are just evil
jpbegin02 11 months ago
I'm not saying that's what happened in this case, but just something to think about.
keldorr 11 months ago
If the customer had purchased an appropriate plan to cover their over-seas use during the trip, according to the Telus rep I heard, that plan could have been had for around $100.
Instead, the customer didn't do that (because they didn't even consider the repercussions, I guess), and then when Telus disabled the data plan upon seeing the spike in usage, the customer demanded it be re-enabled, thus willingly incurring the costs.
Said customer then complained about it.
keldorr 11 months ago
To play Devil's advocate... I recently heard a story about another person (Telus customer I think) who vacationed in Egypt (I think that's correct), and came home to something like a $15000 bill.
The details, though, revealed that Telus had noticed the foreign data use, saw it was going to rack up costs, to disabled the data account and contacted the customer. The customer demanded the service be re-enabled, and Telus complied.
-continued-
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!!! FUCK DUOPOLY DICTATORS BELL AND ROGERS. !!! FUCK THEM IN THE ASS
Lustrum0005 11 months ago
!!! FUCK DUOPOLY DICTATORS BELL AND ROGERS. !!! FUCK THEM IN THE ASS !!!
Lustrum0005 11 months ago
Overpopulation I'm sure is one reason that the guns and crimes are higher in the US than Canada, probably a law of averages kind of thing. I think we're a lot more alike than different, as far as the ignorant part I spend a lot of time in the US and besides the fact they don't really seem to know geography all that well, we're very, very similar. Plus they have Hawaii, not to mention the U.S. Virgin Islands. What do we have that comes close to that kind of climate, B.C.?
agood18 11 months ago
yikes
j2kca 11 months ago
Bell sucks.
sezuor 11 months ago
The only thing I like about bell is, it comes with (on any plan) no charge international texting, other than that, Rogers/Fido all the way.
fr0zenHD 11 months ago
As much as I would like to support this, this video has little useful substance. You will have to do better than this to attract the notice of intelligent people.
Gaphumbala 11 months ago
Yes, but I'm sure the $5 credit helps.
agood18 11 months ago
I think the best way to get the attention of providers is to quit giving them more money. It’s a tough thing to do and certainly not possible for everyone, but if more people did as I did and terminated their contracts with providers on renewal, they might get the message. Meanwhile I’ll wait until Canada adopts a model similar to that of Europe. Of course with Harper supporting big business, that’s likely not going to happen anytime soon (and I'll continue living in this prehistoric country).
salutetotheminer 11 months ago
BELL IS THE DEVIL.
CelebrityX 11 months ago
At least he got a bundles saving of $5.
goojoomoonoo 11 months ago 4
sa pas d'allure criss
fulldead7 11 months ago
While I agree that carriers charge way too much for service, roaming, data and everything else, it's not completely their fault that people are getting huge bills like this... If people would take the time to read their contract agreements or the terms of service on the carrier's website, these issues wouldn't happen so often... I've been using smartphones for years, even before they became trendy, and I've never had a insanely huge bill... So the blame goes both ways, not just to the carriers.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
@m1ndtr1p The carriers are charging obscene amounts for the data, and they're uniformly charging obscene amounts for the data.
Are you saying that gouging is the consumers' fault?
kmikl 11 months ago
@kmikl
Not at all, I said the exact opposite... While the carriers are gouging customers, no doubt about that, the majority of those who get huge surprise bills just don't know how to use their service and don't bother to read up about it until its already too late. So yes, there are many cases that it's both the customer's and the carrier's fault... Ignorance isn't an excuse, would you buy a car or house without first reading the contract you're signing and trying to understand everything?
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
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BiggBossKitty 11 months ago
@BiggBossKitty
No you didn't, you didn't trace sh*t... You don't have any idea how to do such things... For a 38 year old, you sure act like a 13 year old child with all the schoolyard insults and lies... Grow up and at least act your age, idiot.
The fact is, many smartphone users have absolutely no idea how to use them, and simply don't know about overage charges for data and roaming, and yes that's their fault... But carriers are charging way too much for service and roaming here in Canada.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
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BiggBossKitty 11 months ago
@BiggBossKitty
Typical reply from someone who cannot form a decent argument, grow up.
I'm not defending anyone... Have you actually read anything I've posted?
Seems you have deeper issues than getting gouged by carriers, you might want to see a doctor or psychiatrist for that... I suggest some anger management, you seem to be easily angered by even the littlest things, you need some serious help.
m1ndtr1p 11 months ago
Bell Canada is despicable. And not just the cel phone services. I fought with them for years with my landline bills. Suffice it to say we had a very bad break-up and I will NEVER return to their services.
cymmat1 11 months ago 75
I managed to get cash back for a friend who was billed for over usage , by complaining after the news by Bell that a faulty meter was reported. They could not verify the meter ever worked as I have complained nor that is still works , The feds do not check it like is done for gas sales and I can be faked , hacked if I get your password or MAC or IP faked , If it can not be trusted then why bill based on it ?
playlandnews 11 months ago
You guys do realize this video is just clips from the Latest CBC Documentary Canada Biggest Cell Phone Bill... This isn't their Special effects, or anything.
all open media made was the text slides.
And thats good enough for Youtube, Save the money they raised for actual TV commercials
Killerrin 11 months ago
We are getting hosed by our telecom/cable companies. It's time to take a stand. We pay more and get less. South of the border they are paying half of what we are paying and getting more.
ArmpitNoises 11 months ago
Canada has some of the most expensive cell phone rates in the world. Our government has conspired with monopoly providers to rob us for years. In Asia you can get a free SIM chip when you buy $5 worth of stuff at 7-11 and then a 100 minutes of airtime will cost another $3 or so. North America to Asia long distance costs.. 5cents a minute. Canadian cell phones cost upwards of 50 minute for local calls... It's time for a criminal investigation, and an election.
CinestirFilms 11 months ago 3
@CinestirFilms its true that companies such as rogers and bell are overly charging our bills, however our density is low compared to the cities in asia, therefore, it takes more money for them to develop a phone network for a low density but a large area.
nzca 11 months ago
@nzca Yeah that's true but it's not like they're just breaking even every month.. They are making billions of dollars. They're totally entitled to make billions of dollars but they are also entitled to have people calling them gouging fuckheads too.
G3arJammer 11 months ago
@G3arJammer This, but they have to be exposed for doing this. It's no good to know someone is a thief unless they are dealt with as a thief, goes the same for a person or a company.
I have no problem with them making double, triple or so the amount it costs them to do this. If the cost of transferring data wirelessly is truly that little ($15000:$4) and they're crying poor, then I'll do without a data plan, thanks.
kmikl 11 months ago
Come on, Open Media. You can do better than this. Don't make your supporters look like fools - put some real facts into a video... and cut your special effects budget, it isn't doing us any favours.
dyerdome 11 months ago
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I'm all for taking down Bell and company, but I am also against propaganda from any side of a debate. This clip doesn't provide any real or meaningful information, and they only get the opinion of a single person. They don't even mention what this man specializes in, simply that he is a Professor.
Take down Bell, Shaw, Rogers, CRTC, etc. and give Canadians a telecommunications market to be proud of. If you try to mislead, though, then you are just as much an enemy as them. Be honest and clear
Specusci 11 months ago 55
@Specusci 17000 for anything to do with a phone is horse crap, regardless of what was done.
Kallifor 11 months ago
@Specusci I've seen these kinds of videos before, but the full video. I can't remember the name of the TV station that did it, but a quick search will find them for you.
boredgeek 11 months ago
@Specusci CBC is the channel that made the full video.
boredgeek 11 months ago
@Specusci I agree that unsubstantiated claims are not helping the cause any. That being said...its awfully difficult to get the information we need when they are the caretakers of that information. I believe we should be able get the info from them so we can dispute what they say. If they make claims then they should back them up with REAL data. They are just as guilty of doctoring info to make thier cause!!!
targis55 11 months ago
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@Specusci I agree that unsubstantiated claims are not helping the cause any. That being said...its awfully difficult to get the information we need when they are the caretakers of that information. I believe we should be able get the info from them so we can dispute what they say. If they make claims then they should back them up with REAL data. They are just as guilty of doctoring info to make thier cause!!!
targis55 11 months ago
@Specusci Agreed, but also.. The video is 1:04 long, you get 3 major pieces of information:
- 94% of the market is controlled by 3 companies,
- those companies get roughly $17 billion dollars annually
- the cost of data to the customer is grossly inflated than the actual cost the telecom companies pay.
That's one bit of pertinent info roughly every 30 seconds. It's not a 10 minute information video, so take it for what it is: something to motivate you to investigate for yourself.
kmikl 11 months ago 2
@Specusci It's an excerpt from a longer television program. Before labeling it as "propaganda", you might have tried a Google search. The first result shows professor Keshav is the Canada Research Chair in Tetherless Computing at the University of Waterloo.
73rhodes 11 months ago
@Specusci I was with you until you said "a market to be proud of". Now you just sound like you work for one of these companies. Our telecom network is severely lagging behind other countries. Even in the USA, people complain about their network being behind the times, but plenty of people have unlimited data plans for $20-50/month. Here the best I could find is 1GB for $55/month. That's hardly something to be proud of.
Agreed though that this video contains no useful information.
rekcaHrepyH 11 months ago
@Specusci This is just a clip, the full length video is listed in the info.
snugbunny 11 months ago
@Specusci We decided to just give people a quick clip to show how Canadians are being gouged. We put a link to the full segment on CBC Marketplace in the video description. People who want to get more information should watch the full video or go to the OpenMedia.ca website.
TheOpenmedia 11 months ago 28
@Specusci
The information is actually very accurate.
The costs incurred by your average telecom company for what they charge is ridiculous.
Texts cost (on average) 25 cents per. Cost to company, close to nothing. (0.0001 cent approx).
Data costs almost nothing. All it costs is the electricity to send the information. Expansion of infrastructure is what costs them money, and that's to keep competitive. The professor was probably overestimating the cost to the company.
Retosa 11 months ago 10
this is outrageous. something must be done now.
guitarplaya161 11 months ago
How is sharing this video going to help anyone?!?! It only has 321 views. I support OpenMedia and don't like what the CRTC is doing, but this video is so lame...I wouldn't share this on Facebook if it meant free internet for a year. Okay maybe for free internet, but that's not going to happen.
FrostViral 11 months ago
@FrostViral Video views don't get updated instantly... Given this is the number one commented video in Canada today, one would assume its probably got a few more than the advertised 321 views. Heck, its already got 229 likes...
scootermcgee84 11 months ago
There is a simple answer to this. Ditch the cell phone. Society functioned without them. You buy their lies, you pay their rates. Quite simple actually. I used to work for a cellular company when portables still came in large bags. The intent was never o provide a service, but to find loop holes to charge you. Smarten up.
B4its2L8guy 11 months ago
The cell phone companies do have exorbitant rates when it comes to voice and data roaming. And also going over your data limit. I turn my cell phone off when i travel out of country and most people I know do this as well - its the only way to keep it affordable. I guess they figure they're going to make more money from really gouging the few people who don't turn off their phones than by charging affordable roaming rates that everyone who travels would pay. That's sad.
treschny416 11 months ago
Another reason to move to the US.
agood18 11 months ago
@agood18 Theres never a good reason to move to the US. EVER!
MrZeroCide 11 months ago 6
@MrZeroCide I can think of at least three.
agood18 11 months ago
@agood18 I can think of more counter reasons not to move to the US.
MrZeroCide 11 months ago
@MrZeroCide Tell me them, besides the health care and maybe the gun laws I can't really think of any.
agood18 11 months ago