Bad Monkey, having one more control knob than the TS9, obviously has more tonal variation. But, with that said, that doesn't make it superior. Really all preference.
I own the bad monkey. I had an original ts808 that I sold before the reissue came out! It started breaking up bad at the tail end of notes. The monkey drives harder than the original stuff and that, plus the extra tone control, is what I wanted. I put it next to my boss metal zone and fake a 3 channel amp; clean, crunch, and screaming. He didn't mention the speaker sim out on the monkey, did he?
Hi amigo it seems that some people are particularly anal about "coming to you live"....If that bothers anyone I wonder what it would be like to be live with this person..I mean honestly ha ha ha!
The reason they've got "tube" in the name is because they're designed to push an amp's tubes for better sound. They're both good pedals, but really designed to work with tube amps, so if you don't have one, save your money for now.
You were playing through the bad monkey and I scrolled down to read the comments. When I scrolled back up you were playing the TS. I thought you were still goin' through the bad monkey, I couldn't tell the difference.
fair play to you fella, i am always amazed at people making stupid comments wen someone is doing a free video!. But i have learnt that there a lot of guitar geeks out there, like fuckin trainspotters .sat upstairs in their bedrrom wanking of to themselves, when everybody else thinks they are dickheads!.U keep going fella leave the idiots to toss of by themselves!.
i've already got a Blues Driver from Boss for my blues sounds, but i'm looking for a good rock overdrive pedal (not too expensive of course :D). anyone got any suggestions?
this is supposed to be a high end pedal comparison and it doesn't even seem like you mic'd the cab AND you have reverb all over your signal. this could have been much better demo.
First off both these pedals are pretty much the same. The difference between the two sound wise is very insignificant, how ere you can buy two BM for the price of one TS. With this said when you switched the amp to the high gain channel you had the gain way to high for either of these pedals to make any significant changes. Next time turn down the gain in the amp and let the pedal do what it's intended to do. Personally I view these types of pedals as a boost and nothing more.
I like the guitar choice! the bad monkey is very transparent and touch sensitive, im quite impressed, though the tube screamer is still a better choice in my opinion.
@jigmesam because it sounds better than - coming from you, from this pre-recorded, re-run, youtube playback. Plus - when I am shooting the video - I am recording it live. Anyway - really? Does that really bother you that much?
@lmsjr Not at all, but I do reserve the right to take the piss now and then =) Just finished the video and gave it a hearty thumbs up. Nice work and great comparison between the two pedals and the clean and dirty channels. This is Sammy, typing at you live. ;)
i didn't like the fact that you never increased the level and decreased the gain to push your amp into overdrive...you just used the gain in the pedals.
@slimmetalpickn I know that mate, i think they could test with single coils and humbuckers, i have singles and humbuckers, and when i test pedals, they have a complete different sound.
@MaggaraMarine as a boost, now afterwhile when i compare the gain and clearines of my Boss Ds1 crankedand the peavey distortion, the peavey distortion, though highs and gain are cranked the sound is really muddy and low, and when using the Boss Ds1 its awesome and high gain
@rrgert4 You could definitely but the purpose of a vypyr is there presets that exist already on the amp, i guess if you wanted to use it as a boost it would be ok
I play through a Bad Monkey, mostly with a PRS SE Custom, and I love the sound. With the Bad Monkey, you can pay a decent price and still get excellent tone! Personally, I dont see where the extra $50 goes. I'd rather spend it on cables or strings.
i play death metal, kind of fear factory, divine heresy, i`m using a valveking 100 watts. so which one do you recomended me ?. thanls a lot... i`m alwaya enjoy your vids . .
been wondering about the bad monkey for a while, never actually heard a comparison though. i've always been a bit of a TS9-snob. but listening to this, damn they sound similar, and for half the cost aswell? great value for money.
both sound similar. But the ts9 shouldnt have that much gain when running in front of a dirty channel. Should be a little to nothing in the gain, tone just shy of 12 o'clock and level at 3 o'clock...then you have a nice mod boost and a decent solo tone (add a little delay and its sweet)
The Bad Monkey sounds so close it is crazy and cost less than 1/2 as much. I have a bad monkey and I was hoping you would turn the bass and treble up some more because mine sounds the best with bass at 3 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. It really makes a lot of difference and sounds very full and a little more driven as well. Sounds killer through my Marshall Haze amp.
The Bad Monkey sounds so close it is crazy and cost less than 1/2 as much. I have a bad monkey and I was hoping you nwould turn the bass and treble up some more because mine sounds the best with bass at 3 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. It really makes a lot of difference and sounds very full and a little more driven as well. Sounds killer through my Marshall Haze amp.
I think the TS9 sounds slightly better, but so much better I'd choose to pay three times the price for it? I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The bad monkey will probably do it for me.
the ts9 sounds really watery and warbly, .... even though the bad monkey is kinda coarse, its still sounds better as it dosen't piss all over your mids like the tubescreamer...
On a clean channel tube screamer "sings", compare the tone on 2:30 and 2:52! so i think, in this test with this guitar, screamer is a winner. But may be on another guitar bad monkey will sound better, but i'm not shure.
both sound so close! the tube screamer to me sounded slightly better, but the bad monkey is almost three times cheaper to buy than the tube screamer, so I ended up getting the bad monkey.
I like digitech (nothing against them, i use them and the price IS right), but I LOVE IBANEZ (all my guitars and basses are Ibanez...i also enjoy their electronics). I vote Ibanez.
I liked the ts9 a little more, especially over the dirty channel, but the difference was little. the price difference is quite substantial however, the ts9 cost almost two and a half times more on my reference online store.
Love my Bad Monkey. I use it mostly as a booster and man does it really bloom and bring out the touch dynamics in my old Peavey Heritage with the post knobs dimed. Can't go wrong at all for the price.
The TS9 is a little more forgiving in terms of tone - a lot of settings will sound good on it.
The Digitech is a bit less accommodating in that aspect, you can get a bad sound if you're not experienced with EQ'ing. However if you know what you're doing it's possible to make it sound better than the Tubescreamer, especially if you use it for a lead boost.
i didn't like the over drive EQ you were using on your amp but the ts9 cleans it up for those solos and high outputs ts9 all the way the didgitech just mad shit sound muddy like you were playing with no highs and all bass but thats just my point of view i have nothing against didgitech or ibanez pedals
Frickin metal head shit....Use it with a Super reverb or a Silver face pro reverb and find out what blues is all about! Also, great for Southern Rock. Kill the Carvin! No body to the sound. I love Carvin stuff but that amp sounds like crap unless your a distortion freak. No soul behind it. I'll try to post a clip using these two pedals in my line just as they are in this vidio. Turn the bass and treble up to match mid eq on the Monkey and it's killer, ad the TS9 for more sustain.
@grindinglicks I had the opposite problem + this is no where near as heavy as i needed to see what it sounds like on super gain like death metal/thrash not that bullshit hes playing.
The bad monkey seems to make it sound much muddier than the TS9 when working in the dirty channel. Anyway I really dislike the base sound of the gain channel ttk is using. Sorry mate but you can make it sound a lot better.
i think that the bad monkey was too muddy over the already distorted sound where as the tube screamer still retains clarity all the way through, tube screamer all the way.
My first distortion was a TS7... not a bad pedal, switch mechanism gave me some grief, decent sound. Bought a Bad Monkey, it's clearly for the same purpose, sound-wise, but the tone is just fuller/better - for equal volume, TS7 can cut the legs out from under a sound. Liked it so much, I bought a second, so I could go clean -> distorted -> crazy just via pedals, second one was half the weight and sounded slightly worse. What's the moral? Use your ears, I suppose.
good comparison in the first part when the amp was clean. in the second part the amp is too damn distorted to let us hear what the pedals do except add more gain.
Hmmm. Virtually the same tone with both at high noon. More gain than that's too much for me. So, with an added mixer output and a more tweekable tone stack, the BM is a clear winner (and that's without taking the price into consideration).
I'd point out that they have "tube" in the names because the are designed to overdrive the tubes in your amp... which is also why they aren't quite as useful with SS amps. Its nothing to do with their internals.
I'm gonna have to really listen close again, they are very similar. I mean if it's this hard to tell the difference, why not just save myself $50 and buy the Bad Monkey. Plus i like that it has a bass and treble pot vs the ts9's tone pot
The TS9 seems just a touch muddier than the Bad Monkey, which probably has to do with the difference in the tone stack. The TS9 just has a Tone pot, where the Bad Monkey has Low and High pots. Overall, it seems like the choice would come down more to personal taste than anything. I dig the Monkey for its more balanced, full tone.
In places it was the Ibanez and in places the Digitech. I listened a couple of times eyes closed and found that the TS9 had a meatier sound which I liked but the Bad Monkey seemed more responsive or transparent they call it these days - which I like even more. The differences are minimal and kinda like the difference between driving a car with ultra suspension that irons out bumps in the road and one that is great to drive AND feels in touch with the road - if that makes sense - which I doubt.
Great Review, but you missed a trick with the bad monkey. Plugging into the mixer output instead of the amp output gives you a really compressed sounding lead tone.
Both fantastic pedals and an asset to anyones pedal board though. Keep up the good work TTK, peace.
The TS sounds a little more "wet" tham the digitech, but I would definitely go for the Bad Monkey. It's a lot cheaper tham the Ibanez so you get more for your money!
The TS9 feels smoother to me, more subtle which is what i would go for with an overdrive; the bad monkey sounds a little too fizzy- still both are legit pedals.
This guy has no idea how to EQ the bad monkey...i've done this comparison with a keeley tubescreamer and i far prefer my bad monkey. You can tell by the guiyar t
can anyone help me i have a peavey valveking 100 watt head i play heavy metal like parkway drive bullet for my valentine and bands like that what pedal would be best for metal ? please help
Pretty much any "Tube Screamer" pedal. If you're going for the best of the best quality, go for the Maxon OD808, that's what most Modern Metal bands use. What you have to do is combine the distortion of your amp with the pedal. Basically you "push" the distortion by using the pedal. Whatever you do though, don't get a "Metal Pedal".
@BFMVFREAK2010 I have the same Peavey head with a Peavey Butcher cabinet. I use the Electro-Harmonix Metal Muff with Top-Boost Distortion Pedal as my primary drive pedal. It's super versatile and has more metal sounds than a train factory. I have about 3 different settings that I use that cover about 95% of what I play. It goes from a warm heavy overdrive to a totally scooped all-out distorsion in about 2 seconds. The top boost is almost like adding a third channel to your amp.
@BFMVFREAK2010 I have the same Peavey head with a Peavey Butcher cabinet. I use the Electro-Harmonix Metal Muff with Top-Boost Distortion Pedal as my primary drive pedal. It's super versatile and has more metal sounds than a train factory. I have about 3 different settings that I use that cover about 95% of what I play. It goes from a warm heavy overdrive to a totally scooped all-out distortion in about 2 seconds. The top boost is almost like adding a third channel to your amp.
I kinda thought the TS-9 sounded muddy on the clean channel.Where as the the Bad Monkey Shined for me on the clean channel. All the right stuff as far as I'm concerned. Price, and Tone I'm sold. I would buy a TS-9 but only after buying a Bad Monkey first!!! Rock On!!
I jsut got a Bad Monkey for Christmas! I'm thinking about getting a TS9 or TS9DX too. I was going to use the Bad Monkey for a little added Grit and the TS as a clean boost for solo's. I'm running a Bugera BC30-212 and LOVE it!
The TS9 cuts sharper than then Monkey. However, if the Bad Monkey were to be used alone without something else to compare, I suppose it still work fine. Its just like the BOSS SD - 1 by itself kinda thing.
Hey TTK, you da man!...thx for all the insight on different gear, what you do is PRICELESS!,, Happy Holidays to you and your family and all friends in and around the world. \m/
The Bad Monkey isn't bad, especially for the money, but the TS9 sounds more open and articulate, and definitely has more volume. If you can justify the few extra dollars (And lets be serious! Come on!) the TS9 deserves your vote.
if this had been a blind test, no one would have been able to pick which was which... that being said, the TS9 seemed abit louder than the Bad Monkey at the same settings.
Bad Monkey, having one more control knob than the TS9, obviously has more tonal variation. But, with that said, that doesn't make it superior. Really all preference.
ScreamynDemon 2 days ago
I own the bad monkey. I had an original ts808 that I sold before the reissue came out! It started breaking up bad at the tail end of notes. The monkey drives harder than the original stuff and that, plus the extra tone control, is what I wanted. I put it next to my boss metal zone and fake a 3 channel amp; clean, crunch, and screaming. He didn't mention the speaker sim out on the monkey, did he?
MarkBreton 5 days ago
Whats the difference! :P!!
256guitarhero 5 days ago
The important thing here is where you playing this into a tube amp or a solid state as this changes every thing.
Howardtripper 6 days ago
Bad monkey kicks ass!!!!
DansGuitarCo 1 week ago
i like em both .two seperate sounds ...imho
66chopperguy 2 weeks ago
That room can officially be described as 'amp porn'
ToxicTrace100 2 weeks ago
i think the bad monkey is better, just my opinion.:)
iTzFreakoutz 2 weeks ago
TS9
cozmacozmy 2 weeks ago
Bad Monkey
TheOzzySabbath 2 weeks ago
The harmonics on the TS9 are superior, but for the price i say: BAD MONKEY!
160895andy 2 weeks ago
12:01
misterelryano 3 weeks ago
i own both and still can't decide which to keep on my effects stand . I ddo prefer the harmonics of the tube screamer .
bobbypeirce50 3 weeks ago
buying a bad monkey tomorrow! thanks TTK
aidoxD 1 month ago
the "tone king" is playing a Dean....hmmmm
ghettocumquats 1 month ago
to my ears they sound very close I think for the money I would go for the bad monkey why pay extra and I have always been a lover of digitech pedals
mrskint55 1 month ago
i like the Bad Monkey very well..in this video :-)
bluesbiker1963 1 month ago
Bad Monkey gets my vote!
wmheilma 1 month ago
Hi amigo it seems that some people are particularly anal about "coming to you live"....If that bothers anyone I wonder what it would be like to be live with this person..I mean honestly ha ha ha!
xmunful 1 month ago
The reason they've got "tube" in the name is because they're designed to push an amp's tubes for better sound. They're both good pedals, but really designed to work with tube amps, so if you don't have one, save your money for now.
LukeHunterSound 1 month ago
tube screamer wins!!
JackRefuse 1 month ago
You were playing through the bad monkey and I scrolled down to read the comments. When I scrolled back up you were playing the TS. I thought you were still goin' through the bad monkey, I couldn't tell the difference.
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IMHO TS9 hands down, also seems like you liked it better..
MegaMo99 2 months ago
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fair play to you fella, i am always amazed at people making stupid comments wen someone is doing a free video!. But i have learnt that there a lot of guitar geeks out there, like fuckin trainspotters .sat upstairs in their bedrrom wanking of to themselves, when everybody else thinks they are dickheads!.U keep going fella leave the idiots to toss of by themselves!.
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i've already got a Blues Driver from Boss for my blues sounds, but i'm looking for a good rock overdrive pedal (not too expensive of course :D). anyone got any suggestions?
EriksAnarchy512 2 months ago
this is supposed to be a high end pedal comparison and it doesn't even seem like you mic'd the cab AND you have reverb all over your signal. this could have been much better demo.
gumbilicious1 2 months ago
Tone King my arse
walksyboy 3 months ago 13
I feel like you did more soloing with the TS so it gave it a slight bias.
crluehmann 3 months ago
First off both these pedals are pretty much the same. The difference between the two sound wise is very insignificant, how ere you can buy two BM for the price of one TS. With this said when you switched the amp to the high gain channel you had the gain way to high for either of these pedals to make any significant changes. Next time turn down the gain in the amp and let the pedal do what it's intended to do. Personally I view these types of pedals as a boost and nothing more.
JBL8863 3 months ago
the bad monkey is superior and clearer.
YearraeY 3 months ago
Bad fucking monkey...if you really want to see what this bad boy does watch phil x 's videos!!
MusicMan44144 4 months ago 2
I gotta say, while the Bad Monkey sounds respectable for being Digitech, the TS9 still sounds so much fuller.
DirtyFuckingStudent 4 months ago 3
it looks like the orange amp is not getting much love. V3 beats them both
tothetop777 4 months ago
I like the guitar choice! the bad monkey is very transparent and touch sensitive, im quite impressed, though the tube screamer is still a better choice in my opinion.
SomeYoungGuy1993 5 months ago
I bought the BM today, not quite satisfied, but it sure is good value... The Hardwire Overdrive pwns both of these.
Klimpmeister 5 months ago
Well.. I think that'll stick with a Bad Monkey after all.. it's much difference in price for so few difference in tone.
luizzeross 5 months ago
I would go no pedals, sounds better.
ERIK000000000 5 months ago
Why do people say "coming from you live" on a recorded video? :P
jigmesam 5 months ago 7
@jigmesam because it sounds better than - coming from you, from this pre-recorded, re-run, youtube playback. Plus - when I am shooting the video - I am recording it live. Anyway - really? Does that really bother you that much?
lmsjr 5 months ago 19
@lmsjr Not at all, but I do reserve the right to take the piss now and then =) Just finished the video and gave it a hearty thumbs up. Nice work and great comparison between the two pedals and the clean and dirty channels. This is Sammy, typing at you live. ;)
jigmesam 5 months ago 24
@jigmesam hahah- nice! Glad you enjoyed the video. :-) RockON!!
lmsjr 5 months ago 6
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c32linder 5 months ago
@jigmesam Cuz they're NOOBS
c32linder 5 months ago
TS9!!!
ohrj 5 months ago
Shit, they both sound bad, I guess the TS9 sounds a little better, but not much.
oldVideoGamesChannel 5 months ago
i didn't like the fact that you never increased the level and decreased the gain to push your amp into overdrive...you just used the gain in the pedals.
Bryguy2468 5 months ago
@slimmetalpickn I know that mate, i think they could test with single coils and humbuckers, i have singles and humbuckers, and when i test pedals, they have a complete different sound.
MetallicaFan4ever5 5 months ago
Digitech for the pricetag is just amazing. Love the TS9! But on the floor, for the price, i use 90% of my pedals, digi's
MetallicaFan4ever5 5 months ago
@slimmetalpickn He only said that because generally the standard models are Strats and Les Paul. No big deal.
MetallicaFan4ever5 5 months ago
i believe BOSS's Blues Driver owns them both...
PDoodek 6 months ago
Haha, fat muhummed suicmez :D
SmokescreenAbyss 6 months ago
The Bad Monkey is one of the most underpriced stomp boxes on the market. Amazing value!
adamtylermiller 6 months ago
is this a joke?
amusicalnightmare 6 months ago
can you use the bad monkey with a Peavey Vypyr 15w ?
rrgert4 6 months ago
@rrgert4 Why would you want to use an OD through a digital amp? Doesn't it have enough gain or enough presets/effects?
MaggaraMarine 5 months ago
@MaggaraMarine as a boost, now afterwhile when i compare the gain and clearines of my Boss Ds1 crankedand the peavey distortion, the peavey distortion, though highs and gain are cranked the sound is really muddy and low, and when using the Boss Ds1 its awesome and high gain
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@rrgert4 Why would you want to use an OD through a digital amp? Doesn't it have enough gain or enough presets/effects?
MaggaraMarine 5 months ago
@rrgert4 You could definitely but the purpose of a vypyr is there presets that exist already on the amp, i guess if you wanted to use it as a boost it would be ok
theendofacircle 5 months ago
Harmonics on the TS9 are superior.
ThisIsMrMcGregor 6 months ago 27
I play through a Bad Monkey, mostly with a PRS SE Custom, and I love the sound. With the Bad Monkey, you can pay a decent price and still get excellent tone! Personally, I dont see where the extra $50 goes. I'd rather spend it on cables or strings.
cman135750 6 months ago
@cman135750 the only bad thing about the Bad Monkey ist, that it has no real bypass ...
example: if you got no battery or DC on your Bad Monkey, theres no sound ... although it is not activated.
The Ibanez has a true bypass, if it is not turned on, the signal gets throug no matter theres power or not...
If you want a bypass, you gotta pay for it ;)
redukonio 6 months ago
i play death metal, kind of fear factory, divine heresy, i`m using a valveking 100 watts. so which one do you recomended me ?. thanls a lot... i`m alwaya enjoy your vids . .
Mexicokabron 6 months ago
The Bad Monkey costs half as much and sounds almost as good. I know where my money's going.
MeaQuidemCancer 6 months ago
The monkey the monkey! More crunchy.
agcalvin 6 months ago
different guitar and guitar player and this would be better
atari3200t 6 months ago
been wondering about the bad monkey for a while, never actually heard a comparison though. i've always been a bit of a TS9-snob. but listening to this, damn they sound similar, and for half the cost aswell? great value for money.
carlxrussell 6 months ago
@lmsjr which one do you think is better? haha :D
giggs102 6 months ago
bad monkey! Phil x uses it! thats why :D
giggs102 6 months ago 48
@giggs102 Your Awesome :)
MrBac755 4 weeks ago
@giggs102 That's why both me and my friend Mike bought them, and they do rock! The X does not lie!
mikedonaghyorg 3 weeks ago
shouldnt you ab them? dosent putting them in series like this effect the tone rather drastically?
metachozoite 6 months ago
Bad Monkey for heavy rock. Tube Screamer for virtually everything else.
gmdinformation 6 months ago
I love what this guy does but he plays gross guitars
MrFenderbender97 7 months ago
you should make a video series descriving all of your gear ( guitars, pedals, heads, cabs, combos.
marlinm60ss123 7 months ago
ts9 the best
sebalejago 7 months ago
@sebalejago
TS9 sounds a little bit better but for the price you can have 2 bad monkeys, 1 for boost and on for OD, and you still save money!
gipsoudog 6 months ago
I DONT KNOW !- ozzy osbourne
oveerdrives are pointless when you have distortion.
THEGUYD0WNTHESTREET 7 months ago
This guy is not suitable to make drive pedals reviews..
mig29su27f16 7 months ago
bad monkey.
RC62Scorch 7 months ago
Hey! I have that strap!
LiquidBlueAquaria 7 months ago
both sound similar. But the ts9 shouldnt have that much gain when running in front of a dirty channel. Should be a little to nothing in the gain, tone just shy of 12 o'clock and level at 3 o'clock...then you have a nice mod boost and a decent solo tone (add a little delay and its sweet)
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The Bad Monkey sounds so close it is crazy and cost less than 1/2 as much. I have a bad monkey and I was hoping you would turn the bass and treble up some more because mine sounds the best with bass at 3 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. It really makes a lot of difference and sounds very full and a little more driven as well. Sounds killer through my Marshall Haze amp.
1961marshall 7 months ago
The Bad Monkey sounds so close it is crazy and cost less than 1/2 as much. I have a bad monkey and I was hoping you nwould turn the bass and treble up some more because mine sounds the best with bass at 3 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. It really makes a lot of difference and sounds very full and a little more driven as well. Sounds killer through my Marshall Haze amp.
1961marshall 7 months ago
I think the TS9 sounds slightly better, but so much better I'd choose to pay three times the price for it? I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The bad monkey will probably do it for me.
damillionmalania 7 months ago
TS9 all day long. A bit more musical than the BM
monktonnik 7 months ago
the ts9 sounds really watery and warbly, .... even though the bad monkey is kinda coarse, its still sounds better as it dosen't piss all over your mids like the tubescreamer...
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On a clean channel tube screamer "sings", compare the tone on 2:30 and 2:52! so i think, in this test with this guitar, screamer is a winner. But may be on another guitar bad monkey will sound better, but i'm not shure.
badagon 8 months ago
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badagon 8 months ago
The TS9 actually sings. Played it for 5 years. Love the tone on it.
angadmalli 8 months ago 2
the bad monkey cost only a half
that says, its the winner
blutelf96 8 months ago
nice, to bad your not the best lead guitarist.
1ManArmyOfDisease 8 months ago
wrong choise of guitar to shoot out theese pedals ...
maybe a start or a tele was suitable for this job
z3r0grav1tyz 8 months ago
@z3r0grav1tyz In the end a lot of people pair this up with a Peavey 5150/6505 and EMG pickups, so I don't see why it's wrong...
damillionmalania 7 months ago
Bad monkey is my choice of pedal
SpawnThe131 8 months ago
@Thedarkcountry No? Its not!? Cheap doesn't mean crappy!
sahlertz8 8 months ago
@Thedarkcountry DIMEBAG DARRELL used Digitech for most of his life, so it CANNOT be crap¡¡¡¡
whodwellswithin 8 months ago
both sound so close! the tube screamer to me sounded slightly better, but the bad monkey is almost three times cheaper to buy than the tube screamer, so I ended up getting the bad monkey.
theruley 8 months ago
im using a ds-1, and it sucks xDD
DarkFottloch 8 months ago
ts9 because jeff loomis is using it xD
TheMetalCrawler96 8 months ago
@TheMetalCrawler96 good reason
insidegoodoutsidebad 8 months ago
bad monkey
Rafael203 8 months ago
I like digitech (nothing against them, i use them and the price IS right), but I LOVE IBANEZ (all my guitars and basses are Ibanez...i also enjoy their electronics). I vote Ibanez.
icecold337 8 months ago
I liked the ts9 a little more, especially over the dirty channel, but the difference was little. the price difference is quite substantial however, the ts9 cost almost two and a half times more on my reference online store.
TheChinovnik 9 months ago
Learn how to play the guitar first man!! I wish he could push the guitar a little bit harder!
bocolis88 9 months ago
The tube screamer does not have a chance because when the Monkey is bypassed it's buffer is ruining the tone of the TS-9
mabbatic 9 months ago
Are the pedals connected? as you know, the bad monkey is not true-bypass so when turned off you're altering the true tone of the TS9
PabloDarioLi 9 months ago
the controls at twelve always suck man.....find the tone !
RasputinsFate 9 months ago
My Bad Monkey was under £30 and is great, does what I want at a fraction of the TS9s cost!
deedark 9 months ago
Love my Bad Monkey. I use it mostly as a booster and man does it really bloom and bring out the touch dynamics in my old Peavey Heritage with the post knobs dimed. Can't go wrong at all for the price.
bobpick68 9 months ago
bad monkey owner....so you know where this vote is going
enthnd03 9 months ago
Splitting sound hairs here. Different dress, same whore. Both add overdrive without changing amp character in THIS demo with THIS amp.
masshred 9 months ago
IMO The TS9 is brighter and sharper.
TylerAllain 9 months ago
I use a BM with my Marshall JVM and cover most styles. For the money the BM is ace!!
biodag 9 months ago
New to pedals here, what do the mids do in general?
NegmaDeath 9 months ago
The TS9 is a little more forgiving in terms of tone - a lot of settings will sound good on it.
The Digitech is a bit less accommodating in that aspect, you can get a bad sound if you're not experienced with EQ'ing. However if you know what you're doing it's possible to make it sound better than the Tubescreamer, especially if you use it for a lead boost.
OtherRealmer 10 months ago
i didn't like the over drive EQ you were using on your amp but the ts9 cleans it up for those solos and high outputs ts9 all the way the didgitech just mad shit sound muddy like you were playing with no highs and all bass but thats just my point of view i have nothing against didgitech or ibanez pedals
RUSSELL826 10 months ago
Frickin metal head shit....Use it with a Super reverb or a Silver face pro reverb and find out what blues is all about! Also, great for Southern Rock. Kill the Carvin! No body to the sound. I love Carvin stuff but that amp sounds like crap unless your a distortion freak. No soul behind it. I'll try to post a clip using these two pedals in my line just as they are in this vidio. Turn the bass and treble up to match mid eq on the Monkey and it's killer, ad the TS9 for more sustain.
grindinglicks 10 months ago
@grindinglicks I had the opposite problem + this is no where near as heavy as i needed to see what it sounds like on super gain like death metal/thrash not that bullshit hes playing.
FirePower3006 10 months ago
The bad monkey seems to make it sound much muddier than the TS9 when working in the dirty channel. Anyway I really dislike the base sound of the gain channel ttk is using. Sorry mate but you can make it sound a lot better.
naxguitar 10 months ago
I would use these for boost pedals.
SilentDestruction900 10 months ago
i think that the bad monkey was too muddy over the already distorted sound where as the tube screamer still retains clarity all the way through, tube screamer all the way.
MannyRodrigo 10 months ago
Geez, Just got a Bad Monkey for £17 of ebay, hoooooya!
angusgrandison 10 months ago
Clean: Digitech > Ibanez
Distortion: Digitech < Ibanez. I think Bad Monkey on distorted AMP sounds too dark and muddy. You should try another settings I think.
erioth587 10 months ago
Bad monkey for the win! Best bang for your buck
MXPXHolland 10 months ago
My first distortion was a TS7... not a bad pedal, switch mechanism gave me some grief, decent sound. Bought a Bad Monkey, it's clearly for the same purpose, sound-wise, but the tone is just fuller/better - for equal volume, TS7 can cut the legs out from under a sound. Liked it so much, I bought a second, so I could go clean -> distorted -> crazy just via pedals, second one was half the weight and sounded slightly worse. What's the moral? Use your ears, I suppose.
ecuadorthree 10 months ago
good comparison in the first part when the amp was clean. in the second part the amp is too damn distorted to let us hear what the pedals do except add more gain.
mariosyjp 11 months ago
Maxon OD9 Pro + ftw.
justenbeashel 11 months ago
WHOA!!! did not expect that voice out of that man!!
wheflin16 11 months ago
Hmmm. Virtually the same tone with both at high noon. More gain than that's too much for me. So, with an added mixer output and a more tweekable tone stack, the BM is a clear winner (and that's without taking the price into consideration).
fredcdobbes 11 months ago
I'd point out that they have "tube" in the names because the are designed to overdrive the tubes in your amp... which is also why they aren't quite as useful with SS amps. Its nothing to do with their internals.
randomistmech 11 months ago
I'm gonna have to really listen close again, they are very similar. I mean if it's this hard to tell the difference, why not just save myself $50 and buy the Bad Monkey. Plus i like that it has a bass and treble pot vs the ts9's tone pot
JoshAndHisGuitar 11 months ago
The TS9 seems just a touch muddier than the Bad Monkey, which probably has to do with the difference in the tone stack. The TS9 just has a Tone pot, where the Bad Monkey has Low and High pots. Overall, it seems like the choice would come down more to personal taste than anything. I dig the Monkey for its more balanced, full tone.
EnvyInc 11 months ago
Bad Monkey. Plus is is made in the USA
RustyArlen 11 months ago
@RustyArlen Um, if you have a Digitech pedal, read the back of it. Made it China buddy. There goes your American pride, down the crapper again hahaha
twig1981 11 months ago
In places it was the Ibanez and in places the Digitech. I listened a couple of times eyes closed and found that the TS9 had a meatier sound which I liked but the Bad Monkey seemed more responsive or transparent they call it these days - which I like even more. The differences are minimal and kinda like the difference between driving a car with ultra suspension that irons out bumps in the road and one that is great to drive AND feels in touch with the road - if that makes sense - which I doubt.
zthetha 11 months ago
Great Review, but you missed a trick with the bad monkey. Plugging into the mixer output instead of the amp output gives you a really compressed sounding lead tone.
Both fantastic pedals and an asset to anyones pedal board though. Keep up the good work TTK, peace.
bomdelux 11 months ago
Tube Screamer kicks ass
Stevie Ray Vaughan kicks ass
CacheSeaker 11 months ago
the bad monkey is much cheaper
sfentonas11 11 months ago
Both pedals sound pretty much the same...
The TS sounds a little more "wet" tham the digitech, but I would definitely go for the Bad Monkey. It's a lot cheaper tham the Ibanez so you get more for your money!
harantesr 11 months ago
ts9 is little light and more clearity
wakomura7 11 months ago
Bad monkeeey the best !!!
3LUK1T4S 11 months ago
bad monkey ftw!
KAMI13666 11 months ago
both of these pedals sound better then the 4 behringher od pedals..
MOSKII58 11 months ago
phil x uses the bad monkey
poichai 11 months ago
Wow! The tone of these 2 pedals is so close...I'd have to say for the cost of a Bad Monkey, you'd be foolish to waste your money on a TS9
AgilePenatonic1 1 year ago
i like the bad monkey for clean over drive and the tube screamer for distortion overdrive haha im torn between the two
gibsonlespaul915 1 year ago
I want to live in that tone lounge.
CalebXguitarist 1 year ago
Digitech Bad Monkey, nothing more to say. Thum it up if you think so.
Matthiastube95 1 year ago 45
@Matthiastube95 CONSIDERING THE PRICE; ABSOLUTELY :D !!!!!!
rockandroller007 7 months ago
@Matthiastube95 the tube screemer has more mids.....why do you like z monkey?
metachozoite 6 months ago
TOO MUCH BASS!!!! MUDDY AS HELL!!!
bigfish0886 1 year ago 2
The TS9 feels smoother to me, more subtle which is what i would go for with an overdrive; the bad monkey sounds a little too fizzy- still both are legit pedals.
Great vid TTK!
MikefromMesia 1 year ago
This guy has no idea how to EQ the bad monkey...i've done this comparison with a keeley tubescreamer and i far prefer my bad monkey. You can tell by the guiyar t
Ilovemyfender2 1 year ago
can anyone help me i have a peavey valveking 100 watt head i play heavy metal like parkway drive bullet for my valentine and bands like that what pedal would be best for metal ? please help
BFMVFREAK2010 1 year ago
@BFMVFREAK2010
Pretty much any "Tube Screamer" pedal. If you're going for the best of the best quality, go for the Maxon OD808, that's what most Modern Metal bands use. What you have to do is combine the distortion of your amp with the pedal. Basically you "push" the distortion by using the pedal. Whatever you do though, don't get a "Metal Pedal".
RoastyDancer 1 year ago
@BFMVFREAK2010 I have the same Peavey head with a Peavey Butcher cabinet. I use the Electro-Harmonix Metal Muff with Top-Boost Distortion Pedal as my primary drive pedal. It's super versatile and has more metal sounds than a train factory. I have about 3 different settings that I use that cover about 95% of what I play. It goes from a warm heavy overdrive to a totally scooped all-out distorsion in about 2 seconds. The top boost is almost like adding a third channel to your amp.
fishbowlfire 1 year ago
@BFMVFREAK2010 I have the same Peavey head with a Peavey Butcher cabinet. I use the Electro-Harmonix Metal Muff with Top-Boost Distortion Pedal as my primary drive pedal. It's super versatile and has more metal sounds than a train factory. I have about 3 different settings that I use that cover about 95% of what I play. It goes from a warm heavy overdrive to a totally scooped all-out distortion in about 2 seconds. The top boost is almost like adding a third channel to your amp.
fishbowlfire 1 year ago
I kinda thought the TS-9 sounded muddy on the clean channel.Where as the the Bad Monkey Shined for me on the clean channel. All the right stuff as far as I'm concerned. Price, and Tone I'm sold. I would buy a TS-9 but only after buying a Bad Monkey first!!! Rock On!!
NeavesTheWicked 1 year ago
Cool, you're not saying OK as much now :) And i find that the sound quality of the demos have improved drastically, color me impressed man!
I'm subscribing! :)
skurtix 1 year ago
I jsut got a Bad Monkey for Christmas! I'm thinking about getting a TS9 or TS9DX too. I was going to use the Bad Monkey for a little added Grit and the TS as a clean boost for solo's. I'm running a Bugera BC30-212 and LOVE it!
DimDim40 1 year ago
I got a V3. Its a sick amp!!!
belowthesmile 1 year ago
The TS-9 has a sharper sound to it I like it a bet better. But for the price the Bad Monkey is very close to it.
ChaserHUN 1 year ago
The TS9 cuts sharper than then Monkey. However, if the Bad Monkey were to be used alone without something else to compare, I suppose it still work fine. Its just like the BOSS SD - 1 by itself kinda thing.
b44styreraug 1 year ago
Hey TTK, you da man!...thx for all the insight on different gear, what you do is PRICELESS!,, Happy Holidays to you and your family and all friends in and around the world. \m/
Detoxx23 1 year ago
hey ttk did u have a noise gate on the tube screamer? because mine always hums alot, do you know the problem?
TMVowns 1 year ago
Without a doubt, the TS9. I was going to buy a Bad Monkey, but now I think I'll save up and get the TS9 instead.
plaguesofwrath 1 year ago
@plaguesofwrath I love mine to death. They are a bit of a pain to get "right" sound out of but after that....
danukenator123 1 year ago
The Bad Monkey isn't bad, especially for the money, but the TS9 sounds more open and articulate, and definitely has more volume. If you can justify the few extra dollars (And lets be serious! Come on!) the TS9 deserves your vote.
EnvyInc 1 year ago
This video would be awsome whit the mxr gt-od also
Acronso 1 year ago
yes the TS9 , but if the bad monkeys cheaper I'd get that and only one person I know of all my guitar friends plays digitech.
JYZProductions 1 year ago
if this had been a blind test, no one would have been able to pick which was which... that being said, the TS9 seemed abit louder than the Bad Monkey at the same settings.
end result = virtually identical
tony93666 1 year ago
ts808 is the best but out of these 2 the ts9