@wilmathefagprick Three hundred per hour? Really? What currency would that be? And you last were paid a full hour in what, 1985, and that was yer mom, right.
He mocked those who thought "a huge expenditure of public funds" was the best way to grow the economy of succumbing "to the illusions of economic magic." His running mate, Texas Congressman John Nance Garner, even warned that Hoover was "leading the country down the path of socialism."
Stop that preaching he didn't. He accused Hoover of presiding over "the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all our history . . . an administration that has piled bureau on bureau, commission on commission." He slammed the Republican's record of "reckless and extravagant" spending, and of thinking "that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible."
FDR another Democrat hypocrite. Say one thing in the campaign and another as president.
FDR is remembered today, of course, for the vast expansions of the New Deal. But as the Democratic standard-bearer in 1932, he lacerated Hoover as a big-spending Republican.
"For three long years," Roosevelt said in accepting his party's nomination, "I have been going up and down this country preaching that government . . . costs too much. I shall not stop that preaching."
No "private" money in the world would EVER invest in wind power. There is NO way it can EVER return the initial investment and maintenance costs. The potential output is so subtle, fragile, depends on so many variables, it's plain nuckin' futz. The people who push those projects so they can make millions are hucksters, con-artists, and should be indicted for fraud. .
Oil is a stepping stone to the the next generation of energy, exactly like coal was. If, and I do mean "if" you have a functioning intellect, you don't fall in the river to make some worthless political gesture. Unless of course there is an ulterior motive, which is to destroy or damage the American economy as much as possible. All part of making sure them chickens come home, and roost directly over the Constitution. China wants that Canadian oil. What's that mean? Duh, drool drool. "Dum
Another 118.5 million dollars in stimulus money down the drain. Lithium ion battery maker Ener1 filed for bankruptcy today after being given taxpayer dollars by goodie two shoes Obama. Another Green Energy fiasco from the dumbest Administration in the history of mankind. Jimmy Carter is so happy ! ! Someone other than him will now be considered the worst president ever ! ! !
@shootertx51 you might also include president bush, indiana gov mitch daniels (who delivered the anti-state of the union speech), indiana repub senator dick lugar and indiana rep dan burton, all big boosters of ener1. daniels gave them a big chunk of state money. you say you're not a repub so you shouldn't have a problem including them in your critique.
not everything is going to pan out in new tech. completely abandoning investment is not a sensible response. we'll either be buyers or sellers.
@shootertx51 yes, why don't we all just stay fixed to our 19th century technology and pay ever higher costs for gas and pollute the hell out of our country. let's leave the innovation to other countries. it's too tough for america. we'll just buy it from them.
@tishhead People complain about the Corporate / Government incest in the /Country and then endorse it as okay, when it's for green energy All we here nowadays from the left is how evil corporations are and then the left defends the corporations and rich (Buffet) who jump in bed with them. Pretty sickening.
@tishhead and we don't need to leave innovation to the other counties you idiot. you can do what has always been done. we developed the bomb and other countries either bought or stole the technology from us. if england develops the superior solar bullshit, buy it from them. if that fails, steal it. WE don't have to be the country that spends all the money and gets no results. let the other guys foot the bill and make the mistakes. it isn't rocket science, it is very simple
@wgnwheel1 the world is simple to some people. as i said it is much better to be sellers than buyers. your statement that govt involvement hasn't helped is absurdity on steroids. you're typing on an innovation that got a huge boost from govt. look at the defense depts investment in the devlopment of semiconductors. that's 1 of about 10,000 examples. you don't think the hoover dam has helped us? and you think a private company would have built that on their own? lunacy.
@tishhead On the positive, the government can invest in basic research of which the private sector considers the potential returns too weak. On the downside, our current programs are to driven to special interests. The poster child for this is GM and the Volt, both an economic and technical fail. For specific investments like that, the private market, or venture capitalists, are better suited for discerning which can give a greater return on investment, and be successful as a consumer product
@tishhead of course, gov't has helped. it has helped slow technology and jack up the prices. but you retards always bash reagan on the starwars technology. how much of that tech. are we using now. you only like gov't involvement when you can give the dems credit and disavow it when the repubs do it. you can't have it both ways. and the hoover dam was a govt project, not a gov't finance R&D. R&D and final product left in the hands of individuals will always run circles around gov't.
@wgnwheel1 really? you want to cite star wars? we have managed to slice off tiny pieces of useful technology out of a grotesque boondoggle that dwarfs anything the dems have done in green energy. trillions flushed down the john.
keep typing on your computer and believing that the internet was a creation of private enterprise.
@tishhead trillions flushed. bullshit. obamas admin has given a trillion to companies that went bankrupt immediately. and star wars was a big waste and that was my point. but it didn't cost us nearly as much as the green technology that obama has paid for. and if the internet would have been private, we would have it alot cheaper now. when the phone companies and elec. companies were completely private, we had better service. when the gov't stepped in, service went to hell and price is up
@wgnwheel1 you don't even pretend to care about facts, do you? green investments cost more than star wars? go sleep it off. you're not a serious participant in the conversation.
or maybe you can get behind newt's plan to put a base on the moon.
@tishhead if you move, I will support the base on the moon. send all the liberals there. as for newt, I support very little, if any, of that morons views.
@wgnwheel1 it always fascinates me how much the rightys instinctively go for the "if you disagree with me, move" approach. it's closely related to the instinct to keep people from being able to vote. they know that if everyone eligible participated, their arguments would lose virtually every time.
@tishhead your the one who brought up the moon. I don't care if you move or if you disagree with me. that is your right. but when you use your rights to interfere with my rights, then you are in the wrong. and voting for gun control or more gov't programs that take more of my money IS a good example of you using your rights to limit my rights. so then, moving would be my response.
@tishhead Yes I said that. abortion and same sex marriage are both against my religion, and for me to do nothing is a sin. as for drugs, go ahead and legalize. you don't understand or care for facts surrounding abortion or religion, so you have no horse in that race.
@tishhead and abortion isn't a right. it is a fast cure for not taking responsibility beforehand. If women want to be responsible for their bodies, then they can start that responsibility before they become pregnant, and not kill the product of their irresponsibility.
@tishhead but if it makes you feel better, you just keep believing that the government, and especially obama, all have your best interests at heart. anyone who believes that is the worlds biggest fool.
@wgnwheel1 LOL, the plans for the "Hoover" Dam were actually laid out during the Hoover administration, as "Grand Coulee Dam". Much of the blame for the Great Depression is laid at the feet of Herbert Hoover; what is little discussed is that Hoover was by trade and engineer and a great admirer of Keynes; much of the groundwork for the New Deal and what FDR did as Public Works was actually started by Hoover.
@828johng what does that have to do with anything. I was making a point that the technology to build hoover dam was not paid for by the gov't, per se. most of it was already known technology that private sector paid for. He brought up Hoover as a gov't technology project, rather than just a project the gov't financed. but then tish is the biggest idiot on YT
@wgnwheel1 It's an example of the type of infrastructure project which the private sector cannot get involved with. My issue is with government financing of individual initiative projects, Solyndra being the most infamous, or even the bailout of GM. We have had successful examples of government involvement into pure science, such as atomic develpoement, or the initial developement of the internet, but this was based on inquiries into basic science, not gov acting as a venture capitalist.
@828johng You are basically stating what I am. you are just making it a little clearer. I don't believe GM was as broke as was claimed. I think it was a backdoor deal for the gov't to take it over and the upper assholes to get richer. basically, GM and Jeep/Chrysler have had gov't contracts for years, so how can Ford be ok when gm is broke? but in reality, the gov't has no business "giving" our money away to anyone, regardless of reason.
@wgnwheel1 I agree, but GM was actually in worse shape than claimed. In any normal business which cannot complete it's commitments a reorganisation is called for; but in the case of GM this would have meant a renegotiation of the UAW contract, which was politically unpalatable at the time. As to Chrysler, it's holding company Cerberus had enough capital on hand to save the operation, but instead raked the taxpayer over the coals by yet another "doom and gloom" prophecy!
@828johng either way, if a company cannot make it on its own, bye bye. If I can't make it, no one is bailing me out. as for tish, he will disagree with everything I say. even if I told him the president was half white, he would call me a liar and say he is half black, so I, in turn, but zero stock in what comes out of that welfare whores mouth.
@tishhead then give the guys with the technology free rein on producing solar energy. with gov't in the mix, all that is happening are shill companies stealing taxpayer money and politicians getting kickbacks. It is not the governments job to dole out my money to companies. if a company can't make it on its own, it is also equally obvious that govt intervention is not going to help. and don't give me the GM bs either. they weren't in as much trouble as they let on, and now govt owns them.
I'm waiting to see how much our investment in wind power - the biggest in the world is going to turn out. It could be a disaster, I'm hoping not. But the fact is, if you look historically, nurturing new ways of thinking industrially or in terms of energy has been part private sector and govt in the developed world.
@MsMessines I feel that if you let the private sector responsible for raising their own money, they use it wiser and usually develop a better product for less money than when the gov't gets involved. there is not one thing that I can think of where gov't involvement resulted in a superior, yet less expensive, service or product.
I agree on that - to a certain extent. There are plenty of private sector cos that want to develop in renewable energy but they are small fry. How do we get round the problem that our natural resources are evaporating??
@MsMessines Globally, we actually have a vast amount of resources. Not just oil, but natural gas, hydrogen, solar. The issue is what is economically viable, which can vary based on both geography and economic conditions.
I can only give you what's been going on here - projects to see how self sufficient we are here, all about renewable energy. And given this is a govt motivated by independence I reckon the investments can't afford to be reckless.
@MsMessines Of course, there are the dual issues of energy independence and national independence running through the discussion, and as a land-locked island have limited options. The issue is exploiting the most economically sound means based on the situation; I've just been reading a paper by the School of Geography and Geosciences at the University of St. Andrews on the subject!
I think energy independence is going to be the biggest competition. I have been following my own devolved government here - it's all about renewable energy. It is both business and govt backed. Without govt assistance this type of energy would never have flown.
@MsMessines Energy is, of course, the lifeblood for any economy. I think the biggest question I would have to ask is why the government had to take the lead in alternative energies, rather than the private sector. Since the private sector rates all projects by risk or rate of return, is the issue that the rate of return was too low, i.e., that the rate of return too small?
Easy, I can tell you why here - political necessity!! The SNP has to show we can be economically viable from the rest of the UK and basically they are relying on renewable energy and north sea oil.
@MsMessines I see that. But my question is how that compares with the cost of imported fossil fuels. Why has the private sector stayed out? Is the cost of "renewable" energy so much higher than the cost of imported fuels?
@shootertx51 Another half truth from frooter! He conveniently forgot to mention the actual reason why "Ener1" filed for bankruptcy in the first place. Because of cheaper foreign competition! Yep, that's the truth folks, but frooter don't care about that! All he wants to do is blame Obama for everything. You're a lying piece of shit! The son of badvadumdum!
jeb (the smart one) bush on harsh anti-immigration laws:
"Hispanic voters hear these debates and see the ramifications of the Alabama law and other things like that and get turned off. It’s not a good thing — I know this will sound a little crazy — but I happen to believe that if swing voters decide elections and swing voters in swing states are the most important voters in the presidential race, and if you send a signal that turns them off, that’s a bad thing."
@ELI3K. Is that why you're not working? Were you told to, "get the hell out of here," that token niggers no longer required, and take your snotty, somebody owes you a living, even though you're a lazy shitforbrains fool attitude, with you.
@wilmathefagprick Lol! Yeah, right, ELI3K sure outed me. But, only if you're a brainless tard, with the commonsense that God gave a confused pigeon. Or, in this case a Canadian welfare attorney, maybe the same concept? Wilma, do you often find yourself going to the park so people can feed you bread crumbs?
@MsMessines. Well, this is my last day at FS. We've got a great group of young instructors, combat vets, trained and better than we ever were. Makes you proud to see the quality of men America still produces. And then there's ELI3K, Bufftard, and looney, pathetic excuses for affirmative action token nigger assholes, wiping their asses on everything clean and upright. Who themselves couldn't on their lives discern the difference between shit and chocolate pudding. Perfect Obama supporters.
@ELI3K You're right about old man osho. I just view his comments as comedy now. They're actually kinda hilarious, like a parody of a typical gun toting, paranoid, right wing, ignorant, bible thumping, hypocritical redneck.
Xenophobia, seems to be a favorite term used by leftist morons who are just so happy to demean Americans who are rightfully concerned about the futures of our families, our nation. So, any halfwit using that term, it's tantamount to them waving their arms saying, "I'm a retard, look at me. On my own I'd be sitting in a mud hut drooling, but here I am destroying a nation. Yippee, yippee!"
These right-wing radical moon-walkers are all for protecting freedom of speech............... as long as it's their freedom of speech they're protecting. Otherwise fuck everyone else! :))
@IMurderdTheDevil I was having a sh***y day until you came along to put a smile on my face, and made me laugh all the while making an a** out of yourself. I am laughing at you not with you. Thank You Jason!
@endrightwinglunacy "The Los Angeles Police Department will be providing support for a joint military training exercise in and around the great Los Angeles area," the release stated. "This will be routine training conducted by military personnel, designed to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements."
@endrightwinglunacy looks like the newt bubble is deflating again. the only thing that can stop mittens now is an atom bomb in his tax returns (though the secret swiss bank account is certainly not helpful to him.)
@tishhead Newt always finds a way to shoot himself in the foot. What a bloody choice Tish: Romney or Gingrich! I would be hopping mad if I was a Repub.
@endrightwinglunacy i saw parts of the interview the president did with diane sawyer. he looks like he's having a very difficult time keeping a straight face. i think obama is a talented guy, but man, has the guy been lucky with his opponents through the years.
@tishhead Sawyer is following the Palin model. Write a few shitty books and concoct some public displays of "anger". She wants her 15 mins goddamit. She's praying for a call from Romney's camp for the VP spot.
@endrightwinglunacy would have loved to have been on air force 1 on the way back to washington and listened to the president and his people joking about the crazy lady of arizona.
@Athruebelief If you're interested in learning ---- v=wDyDxgJuaDY
It's also the featured video on my channel. About 45 minutes long.
Partisans have a difficult time when learning the facts surrounding the history of the U.S. and the struggle between Nationalists and the Jeffersonian Libertarians. The battle has been won by the Nationalists who exist in both current parties. Today our lives are under the control of a strong Central Government. It was not intended to be.
@Athruebelief actually, i think mittens has taken the harder line on that issue. the repubs still don't seem to get the fact that they can't give up 90-plus percent of the black vote and 65 percent of the hispanic vote and think they'll be able to win.
@endrightwinglunacy The only time I ever agreed with Newt (McPherson) Gingrich, was when he accused the Republicons of social engineering. And he should receive an Emmy nomination for best actor in a dramatic role, for his (outraged) response over being asked about his ex-wife's accusation that he wanted an open marriage. Here's a guy who resigned as Speaker of the House in disgrace and now he wants to be-da-prez! And talk about ugly! Kanoot has a kisser on him that would stop a comet!
@BuffaloBillius The duck waddling, gray haired fat mop-head wanted an open marriage? LOL. What an ego! What woman in her right mind would want that blotchy, wrinkled whale blubber laying on top of her? The word in Washington is that he also has chronic stinky breath. Ewwwwww......what a fucking catch!
@wilmanric1 we've had a another first-hand experience with the "greatest healthcare system in the world." i'll PM you about it if you're interested (it may involve legal action).
@endrightwinglunacy Tish, you , and i should come up with our top ten hilarious things the extreme right wing youtubers on this channel have said. Jason's military police state has to be up there. Osho should get top honors. Badva in top 5.
@IMurderdTheDevil Your a riot! What a dumba**! Let's just tell the military the urban combat training is not necessary for our troops cause jason's afraid they will take away his illegal wife conchita. LOL!
@tishhead It's getting to the point with the morons here where i am seriously considering going to the ghetto, picking up a ton of people, and driving them to the polls just to piss them off.
@Athruebelief you don't have to do it. just tell them you did. tell them you also picked up a bunch of illegals and took them in for their free health care.
i just saw jan brewer on tv claiming she felt "threatened" by the president. i believe she has just thrown down the gauntlet for palin, bachmann, sharron angle and witchy o'donnell -- you've got a long way to match me in the crazy sweepstakes, ladies!
Newt Gingrich thinks he is the next Ronald Reagan. Hilarious. Reagan will not hand the torch to a guy like Gingrich and Pelosi thinks she has info that will destroy him during his campaign. yes you liberals, I'm a conservative who opposes Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. LOL!!
@avidEAGLE did you see the quotes from newt ripping reagan as a failure? of course, ronald reagan the reality was no ronald reagan the myth. by the standards of people here, reagan was a marxist.
@tishhead I do recall reagan calling the blacks in south africa communists for going against apartheid. South Africa that communist den of scum (sarcasm). LOL!
@avidEAGLE Funny how fiscally responsible anti-illegal immigrant smaller government right wingers would follow reagan when he clearly was the exact opposite in his actions.
and manage virtually every aspect of our lives, a majority of voters believe the myth.
Even the term “welfare state” was phony. It was a marketing euphemism to avoid the proper, but pejorative, description — Socialism. The euphemism conveniently conveyed the Bismarckian myth that government cared for and could take care of its citizens.
In reality, the social welfare state was backdoor Socialism.
For almost one hundred years, Bismarckian bribery, via an expanding welfare state, has been the predominant political strategy. Over time strategies grew bolder, ratcheting to higher levels each election cycle.
Today modern economies are being destroyed by Socialism as practiced via the welfare state. After generations of propagandizing Statism, the goodness of government, intervention as a necessary means to equity and prosperity and the need to invade and --->>
Politicians loved buying votes as evidenced by political campaigns where competing political factions tried to outbid each other with more “freebies.”
Eventually tradition and law succumbed to the incessant battering of progressive activists in the US. The people’s defense against government tyranny was weakened. Government was then emboldened to redefine itself in almost whatever fashion it chose.
Bismarck’s method of “bribery” was the model that altered the nature of politics practiced in democracies. With voter bribery, Government as Santa Claus was possible. The people loved this myth and the initial effects.
Progressives in the US initially used the “general welfare” clause of the Constitution as justification for a social welfare state. Deliberate ignorance and distortion of the Founders’ original intent was an important aspect of their attacks. Subsequent attacks used the argument that the Constitution was a “living document” meant to be changed to reflect modern day”needs.”
Tradition and law were eventually brushed aside. The US, constrained by a magnificently sculptured Constitution and a predisposition toward liberty, held out longer than its European counterparts. Its later start and slower progression is a fact often cited as a reason why the US economy was able grow from a backwoods beginning to an economic colossus by the early 1900s.
Politicians in Western democracies saw the power in Bismarck’s idea and patterned their careers on winning election and re-election via the Bismarckian bribe. Convincing the public that government existed for their sake and their welfare enabled expansion into areas previously considered off limits.
"My idea was to bribe the working classes, or shall I say, to win them over, to regard the state as a social institution existing for their sake and interested in their welfare."
The answer was CH2MHILL bought Veco after the political fallout due to corrupt dealings with Senator Ted Stevens.
IF you were from Alaska AT ALL, you would have known that. The only thing you could come up with is the North Slope. You are pathetic girl. I copied this whole exchange tonight.
@ELI3K Lol! Sure, why's dat? Because I didn't answer an obscure question that would only make sense in your small delusional mind anyway? Lol! Slope, what's that, the angle of your forehead from the eye ridge to the crown? I pity whoever has to tolerate you on a job. I'll bet you move just like you think.
@ELI3K Yeah, the North Slope, what? My main business in Alaska is commercial fishing. I've been here in Nevada, off and on for three years. Your take on taxes on investment income tells me that you live hand to mouth, but ta eighty thou a year with a family, that's all you can do. Nothing can be left to think about investing. I was making eighty when it was worth probably four hundred k in today's dollars. Good luck dude.
@ELI3K Osho is using an i-pod and can only respond infrequently.He told me that the other day when I got my nose out of joint.Thought he was ignoring me.
osho575 I tell you what... Give me the name of the construction company that bought another major construction company recently on the slope. You are being timed
@ELI3K. Under Obama's mismanagement this nations economy is shutting down and the buying power of the dollar is plummeting. You don't see it because you're not involved in buying material, as an independent contractor. The dollar is being propped up by a weakening EURO and massive counterfeiting by the Marxist Obama regime. And, news you're on YouTube because YOU have nothing going on. I can tell by the way you use words that you are a very second rate worker.
osho575 I tell you what... Give me the name of the construction company that bought another major construction company recently on the slope. You are being timed
@ELI3K. You think I have nothing because I'm making 50k at a retirement job, because I want to support the Second Amendment, not because I have to work? I own, paid for commercial fishing vessels, a couple of other businesses and several s
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@wilmathefagprick Three hundred per hour? Really? What currency would that be? And you last were paid a full hour in what, 1985, and that was yer mom, right.
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He mocked those who thought "a huge expenditure of public funds" was the best way to grow the economy of succumbing "to the illusions of economic magic." His running mate, Texas Congressman John Nance Garner, even warned that Hoover was "leading the country down the path of socialism."
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Stop that preaching he didn't. He accused Hoover of presiding over "the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all our history . . . an administration that has piled bureau on bureau, commission on commission." He slammed the Republican's record of "reckless and extravagant" spending, and of thinking "that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible."
FDR another Democrat hypocrite. Say one thing in the campaign and another as president.
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FDR is remembered today, of course, for the vast expansions of the New Deal. But as the Democratic standard-bearer in 1932, he lacerated Hoover as a big-spending Republican.
"For three long years," Roosevelt said in accepting his party's nomination, "I have been going up and down this country preaching that government . . . costs too much. I shall not stop that preaching."
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No "private" money in the world would EVER invest in wind power. There is NO way it can EVER return the initial investment and maintenance costs. The potential output is so subtle, fragile, depends on so many variables, it's plain nuckin' futz. The people who push those projects so they can make millions are hucksters, con-artists, and should be indicted for fraud. .
osho575 3 hours ago
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Oil is a stepping stone to the the next generation of energy, exactly like coal was. If, and I do mean "if" you have a functioning intellect, you don't fall in the river to make some worthless political gesture. Unless of course there is an ulterior motive, which is to destroy or damage the American economy as much as possible. All part of making sure them chickens come home, and roost directly over the Constitution. China wants that Canadian oil. What's that mean? Duh, drool drool. "Dum
osho575 3 hours ago
Another 118.5 million dollars in stimulus money down the drain. Lithium ion battery maker Ener1 filed for bankruptcy today after being given taxpayer dollars by goodie two shoes Obama. Another Green Energy fiasco from the dumbest Administration in the history of mankind. Jimmy Carter is so happy ! ! Someone other than him will now be considered the worst president ever ! ! !
shootertx51 4 hours ago
@shootertx51 you might also include president bush, indiana gov mitch daniels (who delivered the anti-state of the union speech), indiana repub senator dick lugar and indiana rep dan burton, all big boosters of ener1. daniels gave them a big chunk of state money. you say you're not a repub so you shouldn't have a problem including them in your critique.
not everything is going to pan out in new tech. completely abandoning investment is not a sensible response. we'll either be buyers or sellers.
tishhead 3 hours ago
@tishhead okay let's include them then. I have no problem with it. They are all idiots.
shootertx51 3 hours ago
@shootertx51 yes, why don't we all just stay fixed to our 19th century technology and pay ever higher costs for gas and pollute the hell out of our country. let's leave the innovation to other countries. it's too tough for america. we'll just buy it from them.
tishhead 3 hours ago
@tishhead <-----------Supports feeding Monkey's ,instead of freeing them !
The1trashman 3 hours ago
@tishhead People complain about the Corporate / Government incest in the /Country and then endorse it as okay, when it's for green energy All we here nowadays from the left is how evil corporations are and then the left defends the corporations and rich (Buffet) who jump in bed with them. Pretty sickening.
shootertx51 3 hours ago
@tishhead and we don't need to leave innovation to the other counties you idiot. you can do what has always been done. we developed the bomb and other countries either bought or stole the technology from us. if england develops the superior solar bullshit, buy it from them. if that fails, steal it. WE don't have to be the country that spends all the money and gets no results. let the other guys foot the bill and make the mistakes. it isn't rocket science, it is very simple
wgnwheel1 3 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 the world is simple to some people. as i said it is much better to be sellers than buyers. your statement that govt involvement hasn't helped is absurdity on steroids. you're typing on an innovation that got a huge boost from govt. look at the defense depts investment in the devlopment of semiconductors. that's 1 of about 10,000 examples. you don't think the hoover dam has helped us? and you think a private company would have built that on their own? lunacy.
tishhead 3 hours ago
@tishhead On the positive, the government can invest in basic research of which the private sector considers the potential returns too weak. On the downside, our current programs are to driven to special interests. The poster child for this is GM and the Volt, both an economic and technical fail. For specific investments like that, the private market, or venture capitalists, are better suited for discerning which can give a greater return on investment, and be successful as a consumer product
828johng 3 hours ago
@tishhead of course, gov't has helped. it has helped slow technology and jack up the prices. but you retards always bash reagan on the starwars technology. how much of that tech. are we using now. you only like gov't involvement when you can give the dems credit and disavow it when the repubs do it. you can't have it both ways. and the hoover dam was a govt project, not a gov't finance R&D. R&D and final product left in the hands of individuals will always run circles around gov't.
wgnwheel1 3 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 really? you want to cite star wars? we have managed to slice off tiny pieces of useful technology out of a grotesque boondoggle that dwarfs anything the dems have done in green energy. trillions flushed down the john.
keep typing on your computer and believing that the internet was a creation of private enterprise.
tishhead 3 hours ago
@tishhead trillions flushed. bullshit. obamas admin has given a trillion to companies that went bankrupt immediately. and star wars was a big waste and that was my point. but it didn't cost us nearly as much as the green technology that obama has paid for. and if the internet would have been private, we would have it alot cheaper now. when the phone companies and elec. companies were completely private, we had better service. when the gov't stepped in, service went to hell and price is up
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 you don't even pretend to care about facts, do you? green investments cost more than star wars? go sleep it off. you're not a serious participant in the conversation.
or maybe you can get behind newt's plan to put a base on the moon.
tishhead 2 hours ago
@tishhead if you move, I will support the base on the moon. send all the liberals there. as for newt, I support very little, if any, of that morons views.
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 it always fascinates me how much the rightys instinctively go for the "if you disagree with me, move" approach. it's closely related to the instinct to keep people from being able to vote. they know that if everyone eligible participated, their arguments would lose virtually every time.
tishhead 2 hours ago
@tishhead your the one who brought up the moon. I don't care if you move or if you disagree with me. that is your right. but when you use your rights to interfere with my rights, then you are in the wrong. and voting for gun control or more gov't programs that take more of my money IS a good example of you using your rights to limit my rights. so then, moving would be my response.
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 didn't you once say you would vote against abortion rights for women and same-sex marriage? are you for legalizing all drugs?
tishhead 1 hour ago
@tishhead Yes I said that. abortion and same sex marriage are both against my religion, and for me to do nothing is a sin. as for drugs, go ahead and legalize. you don't understand or care for facts surrounding abortion or religion, so you have no horse in that race.
wgnwheel1 2 minutes ago
@tishhead and abortion isn't a right. it is a fast cure for not taking responsibility beforehand. If women want to be responsible for their bodies, then they can start that responsibility before they become pregnant, and not kill the product of their irresponsibility.
wgnwheel1 9 seconds ago
@tishhead where were you when i asked for input on the voter ID issue?
badvagirl 6 minutes ago
@tishhead You need to go buy a Volt. You'll sleep better. Even though the stupid thing runs on coal (it's electricity source, as if you didn't know).
828johng 2 hours ago
@tishhead but if it makes you feel better, you just keep believing that the government, and especially obama, all have your best interests at heart. anyone who believes that is the worlds biggest fool.
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 LOL, the plans for the "Hoover" Dam were actually laid out during the Hoover administration, as "Grand Coulee Dam". Much of the blame for the Great Depression is laid at the feet of Herbert Hoover; what is little discussed is that Hoover was by trade and engineer and a great admirer of Keynes; much of the groundwork for the New Deal and what FDR did as Public Works was actually started by Hoover.
828johng 3 hours ago
@828johng what does that have to do with anything. I was making a point that the technology to build hoover dam was not paid for by the gov't, per se. most of it was already known technology that private sector paid for. He brought up Hoover as a gov't technology project, rather than just a project the gov't financed. but then tish is the biggest idiot on YT
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 It's an example of the type of infrastructure project which the private sector cannot get involved with. My issue is with government financing of individual initiative projects, Solyndra being the most infamous, or even the bailout of GM. We have had successful examples of government involvement into pure science, such as atomic develpoement, or the initial developement of the internet, but this was based on inquiries into basic science, not gov acting as a venture capitalist.
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng You are basically stating what I am. you are just making it a little clearer. I don't believe GM was as broke as was claimed. I think it was a backdoor deal for the gov't to take it over and the upper assholes to get richer. basically, GM and Jeep/Chrysler have had gov't contracts for years, so how can Ford be ok when gm is broke? but in reality, the gov't has no business "giving" our money away to anyone, regardless of reason.
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@wgnwheel1 I agree, but GM was actually in worse shape than claimed. In any normal business which cannot complete it's commitments a reorganisation is called for; but in the case of GM this would have meant a renegotiation of the UAW contract, which was politically unpalatable at the time. As to Chrysler, it's holding company Cerberus had enough capital on hand to save the operation, but instead raked the taxpayer over the coals by yet another "doom and gloom" prophecy!
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng either way, if a company cannot make it on its own, bye bye. If I can't make it, no one is bailing me out. as for tish, he will disagree with everything I say. even if I told him the president was half white, he would call me a liar and say he is half black, so I, in turn, but zero stock in what comes out of that welfare whores mouth.
wgnwheel1 2 hours ago
@tishhead then give the guys with the technology free rein on producing solar energy. with gov't in the mix, all that is happening are shill companies stealing taxpayer money and politicians getting kickbacks. It is not the governments job to dole out my money to companies. if a company can't make it on its own, it is also equally obvious that govt intervention is not going to help. and don't give me the GM bs either. they weren't in as much trouble as they let on, and now govt owns them.
wgnwheel1 3 hours ago
@wgnwheel1
I'm waiting to see how much our investment in wind power - the biggest in the world is going to turn out. It could be a disaster, I'm hoping not. But the fact is, if you look historically, nurturing new ways of thinking industrially or in terms of energy has been part private sector and govt in the developed world.
MsMessines 3 hours ago
@MsMessines I feel that if you let the private sector responsible for raising their own money, they use it wiser and usually develop a better product for less money than when the gov't gets involved. there is not one thing that I can think of where gov't involvement resulted in a superior, yet less expensive, service or product.
wgnwheel1 3 hours ago
@wgnwheel1
I agree on that - to a certain extent. There are plenty of private sector cos that want to develop in renewable energy but they are small fry. How do we get round the problem that our natural resources are evaporating??
MsMessines 3 hours ago
@MsMessines Globally, we actually have a vast amount of resources. Not just oil, but natural gas, hydrogen, solar. The issue is what is economically viable, which can vary based on both geography and economic conditions.
828johng 3 hours ago
@828johng
I can only give you what's been going on here - projects to see how self sufficient we are here, all about renewable energy. And given this is a govt motivated by independence I reckon the investments can't afford to be reckless.
MsMessines 3 hours ago
@MsMessines Of course, there are the dual issues of energy independence and national independence running through the discussion, and as a land-locked island have limited options. The issue is exploiting the most economically sound means based on the situation; I've just been reading a paper by the School of Geography and Geosciences at the University of St. Andrews on the subject!
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng Oops, I meant isolated, not land-locked!
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng
I think energy independence is going to be the biggest competition. I have been following my own devolved government here - it's all about renewable energy. It is both business and govt backed. Without govt assistance this type of energy would never have flown.
MsMessines 2 hours ago
@MsMessines Tell me is this a normal thing for you and John on a Friday night ?
The1trashman 2 hours ago
@MsMessines Energy is, of course, the lifeblood for any economy. I think the biggest question I would have to ask is why the government had to take the lead in alternative energies, rather than the private sector. Since the private sector rates all projects by risk or rate of return, is the issue that the rate of return was too low, i.e., that the rate of return too small?
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng
Easy, I can tell you why here - political necessity!! The SNP has to show we can be economically viable from the rest of the UK and basically they are relying on renewable energy and north sea oil.
MsMessines 2 hours ago
@MsMessines I see that. But my question is how that compares with the cost of imported fossil fuels. Why has the private sector stayed out? Is the cost of "renewable" energy so much higher than the cost of imported fuels?
828johng 2 hours ago
@828johng "renewable energy" is a myth.
badvagirl 7 minutes ago
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@shootertx51 Another half truth from frooter! He conveniently forgot to mention the actual reason why "Ener1" filed for bankruptcy in the first place. Because of cheaper foreign competition! Yep, that's the truth folks, but frooter don't care about that! All he wants to do is blame Obama for everything. You're a lying piece of shit! The son of badvadumdum!
BuffaloBillius 2 hours ago
jeb (the smart one) bush on harsh anti-immigration laws:
"Hispanic voters hear these debates and see the ramifications of the Alabama law and other things like that and get turned off. It’s not a good thing — I know this will sound a little crazy — but I happen to believe that if swing voters decide elections and swing voters in swing states are the most important voters in the presidential race, and if you send a signal that turns them off, that’s a bad thing."
tishhead 4 hours ago
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@ELI3K. Is that why you're not working? Were you told to, "get the hell out of here," that token niggers no longer required, and take your snotty, somebody owes you a living, even though you're a lazy shitforbrains fool attitude, with you.
osho575 5 hours ago
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@wilmathefagprick Lol! Yeah, right, ELI3K sure outed me. But, only if you're a brainless tard, with the commonsense that God gave a confused pigeon. Or, in this case a Canadian welfare attorney, maybe the same concept? Wilma, do you often find yourself going to the park so people can feed you bread crumbs?
osho575 5 hours ago
@osho575 "do you often find yourself going to the park"
No Timmy, I don't have the time. I'm too busy with people paying me $300 per hour for my advice.
wilmanric1 1 hour ago
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@MsMessines. Well, this is my last day at FS. We've got a great group of young instructors, combat vets, trained and better than we ever were. Makes you proud to see the quality of men America still produces. And then there's ELI3K, Bufftard, and looney, pathetic excuses for affirmative action token nigger assholes, wiping their asses on everything clean and upright. Who themselves couldn't on their lives discern the difference between shit and chocolate pudding. Perfect Obama supporters.
osho575 6 hours ago
@osho. I already proved you as the fake troll you are. Get the hell out of here retard.
ELI3K 8 hours ago
@ELI3K You're right about old man osho. I just view his comments as comedy now. They're actually kinda hilarious, like a parody of a typical gun toting, paranoid, right wing, ignorant, bible thumping, hypocritical redneck.
endrightwinglunacy 8 hours ago
@ELI3K Yes, you did show him up rather well. He's nothing but a windsock.
wilmanric1 6 hours ago
Xenophobia, seems to be a favorite term used by leftist morons who are just so happy to demean Americans who are rightfully concerned about the futures of our families, our nation. So, any halfwit using that term, it's tantamount to them waving their arms saying, "I'm a retard, look at me. On my own I'd be sitting in a mud hut drooling, but here I am destroying a nation. Yippee, yippee!"
osho575 9 hours ago
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@osho575
Xenophobia! Xenophobia! Xenophobia! Look at me, I'm a moron!
Look at osho! Look at osho! Look at osho! He's an even bigger moron, with hemorrhoids, a swollen prostate, a little pee-pee and an even smaller mind!
BuffaloBillius 8 hours ago
@osho575 <----- "You might be a redneck"....if you believe a word this old fucker says.
endrightwinglunacy 8 hours ago
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Obama "thinks" that he is redistributing the wealth of America. What he's actually doing is destroying Americas ability to produce wealth.
osho575 9 hours ago
These right-wing radical moon-walkers are all for protecting freedom of speech............... as long as it's their freedom of speech they're protecting. Otherwise fuck everyone else! :))
Liberals4Freedom 10 hours ago
FUCK ALL OF YOU DEMOCRAT LOSERS.
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
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@IMurderdTheDevil <--------Has a lot of class! But it's all low. Obama 2012
BuffaloBillius 19 hours ago 2
Thank you asshole obama for marshall law,the military is policing the streets of Los Angeles Ca..Fuck off obama!
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Hey retard, you spelled "martial" wrong.
ELI3K 19 hours ago
@ELI3K Who gives a shit you cocksucker,,thanks for voting for the asshole loser obama,,fuck off and die...
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Someone is hurt. Wait IMTD! Let me get you a tissue.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief Let me put a shotgun to your face..
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil <-----Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief <-- No IQ and an obama cocksucker.
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Smart enough not to vote for Bush Jr. Bwahahahahaha!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief <---Ya, and super stupid enough to vote for obama LOL! LOSER!
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Yup! I voted for obama, and i'll do it again. OBAMA 2012!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief Ya,,you need need somebody to hold your hand..You're a moron..
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil I was having a sh***y day until you came along to put a smile on my face, and made me laugh all the while making an a** out of yourself. I am laughing at you not with you. Thank You Jason!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief<-- Yu! I voted for obama,,who cares if the military is policing our streets...You fucking retard..
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil "marshall law" lolololol.....hahahahaha...you fucking RETARD. Even Conchita spells better than you do.
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy "The Los Angeles Police Department will be providing support for a joint military training exercise in and around the great Los Angeles area," the release stated. "This will be routine training conducted by military personnel, designed to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements."
IMTD is hilarious! Jason's a whimp!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief Whenever there's a show of force, Jason gets all pouty and jealous of the real men. No wonder, look at those fucking legs!
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy The LA Police department gave Jason 3 freaking days notice on what was going on. Where does the moron live? In a dog house? Lmao!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief He lives with his German dog and Mexican wife. And he loves his sister's Chinese dog. Yet he's a facist xenophobic piece of shit.
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy looks like the newt bubble is deflating again. the only thing that can stop mittens now is an atom bomb in his tax returns (though the secret swiss bank account is certainly not helpful to him.)
tishhead 19 hours ago
@tishhead Newt always finds a way to shoot himself in the foot. What a bloody choice Tish: Romney or Gingrich! I would be hopping mad if I was a Repub.
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy i saw parts of the interview the president did with diane sawyer. he looks like he's having a very difficult time keeping a straight face. i think obama is a talented guy, but man, has the guy been lucky with his opponents through the years.
tishhead 19 hours ago
@tishhead Sawyer is following the Palin model. Write a few shitty books and concoct some public displays of "anger". She wants her 15 mins goddamit. She's praying for a call from Romney's camp for the VP spot.
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy would have loved to have been on air force 1 on the way back to washington and listened to the president and his people joking about the crazy lady of arizona.
tishhead 19 hours ago
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@tishhead Can you blame her? Massive amounts of prescription drugs are keeping that old bag alive. Lmao!
Athruebelief 18 hours ago
@tishhead Not Sawyer, I meant Jan Brewer. Duh...time for me to get to bed methinks!
endrightwinglunacy 18 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy @tishhead Good night guys.
Athruebelief 17 hours ago
@Athruebelief If you're interested in learning ---- v=wDyDxgJuaDY
It's also the featured video on my channel. About 45 minutes long.
Partisans have a difficult time when learning the facts surrounding the history of the U.S. and the struggle between Nationalists and the Jeffersonian Libertarians. The battle has been won by the Nationalists who exist in both current parties. Today our lives are under the control of a strong Central Government. It was not intended to be.
shootertx51 11 hours ago
@tishhead You hear Jeb Bush? He's worried gingrinch's stance against illegals is going to hurt the hispanic vote.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief actually, i think mittens has taken the harder line on that issue. the repubs still don't seem to get the fact that they can't give up 90-plus percent of the black vote and 65 percent of the hispanic vote and think they'll be able to win.
tishhead 18 hours ago
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Athruebelief 18 hours ago
@tishhead youtube is messed up.
Athruebelief 18 hours ago
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@endrightwinglunacy The only time I ever agreed with Newt (McPherson) Gingrich, was when he accused the Republicons of social engineering. And he should receive an Emmy nomination for best actor in a dramatic role, for his (outraged) response over being asked about his ex-wife's accusation that he wanted an open marriage. Here's a guy who resigned as Speaker of the House in disgrace and now he wants to be-da-prez! And talk about ugly! Kanoot has a kisser on him that would stop a comet!
BuffaloBillius 19 hours ago
@BuffaloBillius The duck waddling, gray haired fat mop-head wanted an open marriage? LOL. What an ego! What woman in her right mind would want that blotchy, wrinkled whale blubber laying on top of her? The word in Washington is that he also has chronic stinky breath. Ewwwwww......what a fucking catch!
endrightwinglunacy 8 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy The CBC described Newt as a true Libertarian--at least as far as the state of marriage is concerned.
wilmanric1 5 hours ago
@wilmanric1 we've had a another first-hand experience with the "greatest healthcare system in the world." i'll PM you about it if you're interested (it may involve legal action).
tishhead 5 hours ago
@tishhead I'm sorry to hear abou that, but feel free to
PM me.
wilmanric1 1 hour ago
@tishhead Shitter and old man osho had better switch over to Romney, after Newt's defense of "undocumented" illegals:
"We're not going to walk in there and grab a grandmother out and then kick them out," Gingrich said.
endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy Tish, you , and i should come up with our top ten hilarious things the extreme right wing youtubers on this channel have said. Jason's military police state has to be up there. Osho should get top honors. Badva in top 5.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
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endrightwinglunacy 19 hours ago
@endrightwinglunacy Jason's afraid the military will find his meth & mary jane labs, and take away his illegal wife conchita. Bwahahahah!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Your a riot! What a dumba**!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@IMurderdTheDevil Your a riot! What a dumba**! Let's just tell the military the urban combat training is not necessary for our troops cause jason's afraid they will take away his illegal wife conchita. LOL!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief why don't we feed their paranoia and tell them we'll vote for the president 10 times.
tishhead 19 hours ago
@tishhead It's getting to the point with the morons here where i am seriously considering going to the ghetto, picking up a ton of people, and driving them to the polls just to piss them off.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief you don't have to do it. just tell them you did. tell them you also picked up a bunch of illegals and took them in for their free health care.
tishhead 19 hours ago
@tishhead Romney or Gingrich? Not much longer, and the right will flip a coin on it.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K Isn't marshall a college?
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K <--- this asshole is concerned with my spelling instead of being concerned with the military policing our streets..what an asshole!
IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@ELI3K LOL! Osho is a moron.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K LOL! Osho is a moron. You caught her.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K LOL! Osho is a moron. You caught her.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
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@ELI3K LOL! Osho is a moron. You caught her.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K N-osho is a complete moron with nothin to offer.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@ELI3K N-osho is a complete moron with nothin to offer.
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
i just saw jan brewer on tv claiming she felt "threatened" by the president. i believe she has just thrown down the gauntlet for palin, bachmann, sharron angle and witchy o'donnell -- you've got a long way to match me in the crazy sweepstakes, ladies!
tishhead 19 hours ago
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ELI3K 19 hours ago
@ELI3K yes. i think you should probably just treat osho as the circus act that he is.
tishhead 19 hours ago
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@tishhead Typical response when the right runs out of lies---->"F**K ALL OF YOU DEMOCRAT LOSERS."---IMTD
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
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Well I kicked ALOT of ass tonight and I got some managerial type training tomorrow. Gotta go now Krista be good.
ELI3K 20 hours ago
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ELI3K 20 hours ago
Newt Gingrich thinks he is the next Ronald Reagan. Hilarious. Reagan will not hand the torch to a guy like Gingrich and Pelosi thinks she has info that will destroy him during his campaign. yes you liberals, I'm a conservative who opposes Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. LOL!!
avidEAGLE 20 hours ago
@avidEAGLE did you see the quotes from newt ripping reagan as a failure? of course, ronald reagan the reality was no ronald reagan the myth. by the standards of people here, reagan was a marxist.
tishhead 20 hours ago
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IMurderdTheDevil 19 hours ago
@tishhead I do recall reagan calling the blacks in south africa communists for going against apartheid. South Africa that communist den of scum (sarcasm). LOL!
Athruebelief 19 hours ago
@Athruebelief i don't know if reagan was a racist, but he certainly had no trouble catering to them.
tishhead 19 hours ago
@avidEAGLE Funny how fiscally responsible anti-illegal immigrant smaller government right wingers would follow reagan when he clearly was the exact opposite in his actions.
Athruebelief 20 hours ago
yeah, you too.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
Take it easy
ELI3K 20 hours ago
Shooter what are you doing? It's late and there's no one here but you and me.
ELI3K 20 hours ago
@ELI3K lol I'm done for now. I won;t be bothering anyone for awhile. lol
shootertx51 20 hours ago
The three-legged stool that supported the fantasy of the social welfare state for the last 100+ years was based on the following:
Prosperity is available without effort.
Government creates prosperity.
Government will take care of its people
Politicians were able to support this hoax only with “other people’s money.” It is now apparent to many that none of these premises were true.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
and manage virtually every aspect of our lives, a majority of voters believe the myth.
Even the term “welfare state” was phony. It was a marketing euphemism to avoid the proper, but pejorative, description — Socialism. The euphemism conveniently conveyed the Bismarckian myth that government cared for and could take care of its citizens.
In reality, the social welfare state was backdoor Socialism.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
@shootertx51 Gnite.
VirginiaCityVigiLanT 20 hours ago
@VirginiaCityVigiLanT Good night.
Athruebelief 20 hours ago
@VirginiaCityVigiLanT Goodnite VCV.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
The Advance of Socialism
For almost one hundred years, Bismarckian bribery, via an expanding welfare state, has been the predominant political strategy. Over time strategies grew bolder, ratcheting to higher levels each election cycle.
Today modern economies are being destroyed by Socialism as practiced via the welfare state. After generations of propagandizing Statism, the goodness of government, intervention as a necessary means to equity and prosperity and the need to invade and --->>
shootertx51 20 hours ago
Politicians loved buying votes as evidenced by political campaigns where competing political factions tried to outbid each other with more “freebies.”
shootertx51 20 hours ago
Eventually tradition and law succumbed to the incessant battering of progressive activists in the US. The people’s defense against government tyranny was weakened. Government was then emboldened to redefine itself in almost whatever fashion it chose.
Bismarck’s method of “bribery” was the model that altered the nature of politics practiced in democracies. With voter bribery, Government as Santa Claus was possible. The people loved this myth and the initial effects.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
Progressives in the US initially used the “general welfare” clause of the Constitution as justification for a social welfare state. Deliberate ignorance and distortion of the Founders’ original intent was an important aspect of their attacks. Subsequent attacks used the argument that the Constitution was a “living document” meant to be changed to reflect modern day”needs.”
shootertx51 20 hours ago
dont hear to much about youzentube anymore :(
jred414 20 hours ago
@jred414 Yeah.Howdy! I gotta crash. Sorry to monopolize.
VirginiaCityVigiLanT 20 hours ago
Tradition and law were eventually brushed aside. The US, constrained by a magnificently sculptured Constitution and a predisposition toward liberty, held out longer than its European counterparts. Its later start and slower progression is a fact often cited as a reason why the US economy was able grow from a backwoods beginning to an economic colossus by the early 1900s.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
Politicians in Western democracies saw the power in Bismarck’s idea and patterned their careers on winning election and re-election via the Bismarckian bribe. Convincing the public that government existed for their sake and their welfare enabled expansion into areas previously considered off limits.
shootertx51 20 hours ago
"My idea was to bribe the working classes, or shall I say, to win them over, to regard the state as a social institution existing for their sake and interested in their welfare."
Otto von Bismarck
shootertx51 20 hours ago
@shootertx51 The right is doing a bang up job for us in regards to welfare when they decide to protect high school drop-outs.
Athruebelief 20 hours ago
The answer was CH2MHILL bought Veco after the political fallout due to corrupt dealings with Senator Ted Stevens.
IF you were from Alaska AT ALL, you would have known that. The only thing you could come up with is the North Slope. You are pathetic girl. I copied this whole exchange tonight.
BYE OSHO!!!!!
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K Lol! Sure, why's dat? Because I didn't answer an obscure question that would only make sense in your small delusional mind anyway? Lol! Slope, what's that, the angle of your forehead from the eye ridge to the crown? I pity whoever has to tolerate you on a job. I'll bet you move just like you think.
osho575 21 hours ago
@Krista You can't answer the question cause you're full of shit
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K Yeah, the North Slope, what? My main business in Alaska is commercial fishing. I've been here in Nevada, off and on for three years. Your take on taxes on investment income tells me that you live hand to mouth, but ta eighty thou a year with a family, that's all you can do. Nothing can be left to think about investing. I was making eighty when it was worth probably four hundred k in today's dollars. Good luck dude.
osho575 21 hours ago
@osho575 BUSTED BITCH
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@osho575 DENY, DENY, DENY, ATTACK!
ELI3K 21 hours ago
does she go over what she's gonna say at all?
kiraofthewasteland 21 hours ago
Are you guys getting this? Give me a head count here please. How many are seeing this right now?
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K Hey there Eli.
I'm seeing for the first time at 10:30 am, PST. Too bad I missed the play-by-play.
wilmanric1 6 hours ago
It was a simple question I asked.
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K Osho is using an i-pod and can only respond infrequently.He told me that the other day when I got my nose out of joint.Thought he was ignoring me.
VirginiaCityVigiLanT 21 hours ago
@VirginiaCityVigiLanT You seen that. Osho is a liar here and not to be trusted.
It was an EASY question for someone from Alaska. The international airport in Anchorage is named after Ted Stevens for God's sake!
ELI3K 20 hours ago
@ELI3K I wasn't paying attention,actually.I saw something about CH2MHILL, but it made no sense to me.
VirginiaCityVigiLanT 20 hours ago
OSHOOOOO Where are you??????????
ELI3K 21 hours ago
C'mon imagination girl, google faster!
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@osho You have no idea what Im talking about do you
ELI3K 21 hours ago
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osho575 I tell you what... Give me the name of the construction company that bought another major construction company recently on the slope. You are being timed
ELI3K 1 sec ago
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K. Under Obama's mismanagement this nations economy is shutting down and the buying power of the dollar is plummeting. You don't see it because you're not involved in buying material, as an independent contractor. The dollar is being propped up by a weakening EURO and massive counterfeiting by the Marxist Obama regime. And, news you're on YouTube because YOU have nothing going on. I can tell by the way you use words that you are a very second rate worker.
osho575 22 hours ago
osho575 I tell you what... Give me the name of the construction company that bought another major construction company recently on the slope. You are being timed
ELI3K 21 hours ago
@ELI3K. You think I have nothing because I'm making 50k at a retirement job, because I want to support the Second Amendment, not because I have to work? I own, paid for commercial fishing vessels, a couple of other businesses and several s