@andrerieu100 It's the personal standard of Elizabeth the Second as Queen of Canada. It's basically the same as her normal personal standard, just with the addition of the white bar and maple leaves along the bottom.
@mcaddicts I think it's for the ancient Kingdom of France, not French-Speaking Canada. Find the article of the former Kingdom of Great Britain on wikipedia and look at the coat of arms.
@mcaddicts The fleur de lis was also symbols of French monarchy until 1792 when France became a republic. Last royal flag flew in France about 1830 then tricolour was recognised as national flag.
Edward III claimed France for England and for most part of the history the fleur des lis was on the English royal shield later British shield until 1801 when Britain gave up claim on France.
It still on the Canadian royal shield though cos of French settlers living in Canada.
@BrCaSt87 it means less foreigners in England the better... England Tradition makes culture, English culture makes a country. It's pretty bloody simple.
why become a republic so we can have a president and treat him like the king like obama is treated in the us or Sarkozy in france. Were fine the way we are, people bitch we have no history so hell lets destroy the last bit of true canadian history and traditions.
@apple2018 That the British people have to pay so that an inbreded aristocratic family can have a luxurious lifestyle. That the Uk media censors any sort of mockery/joke about the Royal Family. etc etc
@Pvic: I agree with the censorship however every gov't does the same even our Harper gov wants a positive spin. May I ask what you would like to see? Republic?
@Pvic Im British, dont mind it. Dont see why anything has to change just because you say so. Tradition makes culture, culture makes a country. It's pretty bloody simple.
@Pvic You're blaming that on the royals?! I think you'll find it's happening to everyone. The reason Britain are no longer prevalent (although it pains me to say it) is because we, like many multiple european countries, did NOT follow Germany's example. And what do we find. Germany being the 3rd most powerful nation on earth.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FUCKKKKKK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHUT UP CANADA IS NOT BRITISH IT'S CANADIAN WHY THE FUCK WHY THE BLODDY FUCK DO WE STILL HAVE THIS SONG AS A ROYAL ANTHEM WHY DO WE STILL HAVE A ROYAL ANTHEM DAMN IT NOW I KNOW WHY QUEBEC IS THE WAY IT IS CANADA NEEDS TO BE A REPUBLIC
@IRememberTheOldDays thank you and it's not like i have anything against british persons not at all all i'm saying is that canada and britain are two different nations and canada is a proud independent nation i don't like having the queen of another land saying she's queen of my land i don't even think she wants that type of foolishness and for us to have god save the queen as a royal anthem if canada thats pure bullshit and i'm sure you would have to agree with me
@IRememberTheOldDays one of the things that reallly pissed me off is when the queen said her mother is canadian shes not a damn canadian she was not born here they have nothing to do with canada but i hope you don't think i have a problem with britons sorry i called you a foreign pig i don't even have anything if canada was to stay in the commonwealth it should be like south africa take the queen out of things and that british anthem as well or just leave the commonwealth
@mbarana100 well, I cant speak for her. She might have meant it in another way, I dont know. I simply dont know. And you cant just extradite your heritage, Canada's constitution, traditions and functioning system is directly mapped on British protocol. You have your own way of course, Im not disputing that at all. But Canada is British, your Military wear British uniforms and swear to the Queen. Up until recently your flag sported a Jack and you sung GSTQ, just saying..
@mbarana100 But I wish every success on Canada, i really do. A tutor of mine is Canadian and he has given me the faith that Canada and Canadians really are sterling people. I am personally proud to be associated with you, even if you aren't with me.
@IRememberTheOldDays well thank you i think your an awsome person eh i'll add you as a youtube friend canada is one of the most succesful countries on earth i think we should be a republic i mean we should still be in the commonwealth but we should do it like how south africa does it and ghana and guiana and be a republic and remove the queen nothing against her personally i don't even know her but saying shes queen of another country is almost nazism in my books and i know you agree with me
@IRememberTheOldDays by the way sorry if i offended you the other day i'm not a nasty person i just take certain things very seriously i'm a very strong nationalist
@mbarana100 ah its fine, Im exactly the same. (topics like the Falklands and national face get me riled more than Id like) Same to you. I just think its a shame we let ourselves down in ole Britannia by handling this so poorly that now our old colonies don't really like us , its a real shame !
@IRememberTheOldDays well it's not the people it's just the system trying to say well we are independent but then were not really real countries like having the union jack on the flag of the province of ontario and even on countries like australia and new zealand but i think that England is one of the nicest countries in the world they are our friend and england has done a lot of good like stoping Hitler from invading your land and kicking the shit out of the nazis
@mbarana100 but we all owe just as much to the ANZACS, Gurkha rifles etc, all our colonial best! I consider it an honour that they fought with and for us and some decide to maintain the flag. Does genuinely mean a lot. Plus, Im all for having a mixed Britain. They did so much for us, the least we can do is welcome them and their countrymen and women into our society with open arms, after all we all really want the same thing :)
@IRememberTheOldDays your right in fact i'd go beyond that and say that we need a world with one centralized unity not saying all countries in one but i love institutions like the un eu and commonwealth i know there not perfect but without them i think the world would be a much more difficult place to live in there would be more wars and death i honestly belive that
@mbarana100 aye, so do I ! The problem is you have a Conservative view of no change and also the Liberal side, get rid of everything in the name of finance and progress, living alongside and cooperating fully (never going to happen) which means we'll never agree. And unfortunately humans are inherently warlike . Its what we do : /
@IRememberTheOldDays at least you are someone who i can talk too and you can understand what i'm talking about and we can have a decent conversation without any name calling and us acting like we threated to murder each other lol i can't stand people online who do nothing but say nasty things from behind a computer you know what i mean at least we have the balls to apologise and talk properly
@mbarana100 hear hear! Its just too easy for people to be ignorant keyboard warriors and get their, supposed, views across. And its refreshing to be able to converse with someone willing to do so, as you have just mentioned. This is one reason Im taking Government and Politics, so I can get my teeth into proper debate and discussion without the need for nerve tonic or a long range rifle .. Thank you, Michael
@IRememberTheOldDays lol no problem in the words of a quote i heard in the movie napoleon who by the way is one of my heroes the diffrence between politicians and soldiers are that soldiers kill with there guns politicians kill with there words LMAO some people here on these chats sometimes think there soldiers it's kind of funny and yet so pathetic if they think there so tough why not join the Military LOL
@IRememberTheOldDays but seriously i'm glad your my friend i like smart well educated friends because i'm a bit of a geek so these little discustions are just so nice to get into and it's such a breath of fresh air that when i talk to you you actually know what i'm talking about and can make a logical rebutal
@IRememberTheOldDays damn right i am let me think how do you feel about the european Union or unions in general like the african union united nations do you feel there a good idea i do i think your country should have the euro i think it was a very bad mistake for Margreat Thather to leave your country out of the Eurozone she was being in my opinion selfish and closedminded
@mbarana100 or possibly Irish/Sottish Independence? Britain as a new country, post Empirical? I dont know which country you hail from so I can suggest one which may be relevant to your good self. Falklands territory? Heck, there are so many things that need debating!
@IRememberTheOldDays tell me about i have a mix of senegalise gambian carribean/indian irish scottish french and finnally hispanic but born and raised here in Canada this world is just full of controversy lol wait i just thought of something you are up very very late it's 7:13 here but it's past midnight were you are lol
@mbarana100: I will tell you that its next to imposible for Canada to become a republic. If you under stood the amending formula you would see every province has to have majority support and as we know no province can every agree on anything so the Queen is here to stay! Long Live the Queen.
@apple2018 you obviously don't know whats going on in the commonwealth with canada and australia they say those too countries are closer to a republic then jamaica anyway im not talking to you your wanting attention leave me alone
@timothydavey1 :D wish we still had the Union flag on our flag but Quebec...ya know. I really liked the Canadian Red ensign and especially our naval blue ensign, very australian lol
@AlternateEmpires Australia maybe, not sure though. I know the Queen still makes visits to Australia a lot and they still have the Union Jack on their flag/
@AlternateEmpires BRITISH HERITAGE WHAT FUCKING BRITISH HERITAGE WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE EHH IF YOU WERE TO EVER SAY THAT HERE YOU'D BE FUCKING JUMPED RIGHT ON THE STREET WE WOULD CUT YOUR THROAT OFF AND HEAD AND SHIT IN IT AND LAUGH AT YOUR PAIN DON'T YOU DARE SAY OUR HERITAGE IS BRITISH CUNT WE ARE A SEPREATE NATION AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HERITAGE YOU GOOF TALK ABOUT OUR FRENCH HISTORY AS WELL THERE ARE MORE PERSONS HERE OF FRENCH DESENT THEN BRITISH GOOF
@darkrhawk Did you check the Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Great Britain? Not the UK, GBR. It has fur-de-lises on it. Add this to the end of Wikipedia's URL: wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Great_Britain_(1714-1801).svg
@scoobyrds I saw it! Just awesome! But you know, It also appears on the French King's Standard and the Royal Coat of Arms of the ancient Kingdom of France, what a coincidence!
@darkrhawk Yeah, in Medieval times, England always wanted to be just like France. But, it got obsessive, and they invaded.. (Hundred Years' War). Although, that obsession with France ended when England became the America of its day, and ut became a bitter rivalry.
it's true.. it serves to indicate the queen's presence when she is in canada. its purpose more or less equals to the royal standard in the UK. (which is flown on buildings or vehicles where the queen is in.)
Canada's independence was not a one time event where we all declared independence. It was a step by step process of cutting ties with Britain through many milestones.
Let's complete this process of independence and create a greater nation which is unburdened by the detrimental impact of the Monarchy on our national identity, economy and politics.
@johnlewisy the crown only exists as a political tie between two brother nations, it has little to no influence, thats why its still there, to reign, but not to rule. btw how is canada going to get richer by succeeding?
In politics, Canada is "forced" to abide by a multicameral system (Legislature and Senate) and then we have to get the "Crown's approval" and if its big, the Queen has to sign it.
Do you have any damn idea about how long it takes to pass legislation because of this? Our nation will remain almost one step behind on every issue until we have the ability to pass our laws, faster with less red tape
@johnlewisy i would probably agree to something like a decrease in red tape, but a decrease in tape doesn't mean that the canada should leave the crown, all it does is provide futher diplomatic links to britain, canada, Australia, new zealand and other small nations, nothing much,. i think canada elected a multicultural system.
Economic issues- Britain is using their 'cultural ties" to us from the Monarchy to exploit our financial and resource based industries. Britain's London Stock Exchange is trying to acquire TMX Group which operates ALL of Canada's exchanges. If Britain takes control of our stock exchanges, they will have not only cultural power over us but also economic power to manipulate our political and economic policies
The British crown is an extension of the British state and the state funds all of the Monarchy's activities and the Monarchy represents and promotes Britain
On national identity, you risk alienating a large percentage of our countrymen by maintaining ties with the British Monarchy. Do you really think the Chinese businessman in Vancouver and the 44% of the Toronto population that is foreign born really likes the fact that the Supreme Head of Canada is a old British lady? They tolerate it but by no means do they actually like it. It's only going to get worse from here.
@johnlewisy I'm not sure who gave you the right to speak on behalf of all non-white Canadians or why you think you can assume how they must feel - but regardless of race, ethnicity, or national origin, Canadians are Canadians, and that means accepting and adopting certain (if not all) aspects of the country's history and traditions. This includes the monarchy.
You really don't know how our country works.... we may share a "common frame of interest" in the argument but we're not sharing a "common language". You're so idealistic...unfortunately ideals have the tendency of being destroyed by reality. Could you honestly look me in the eye and tell me that a Asian or Middle Eastern man who is "Canadian" honestly care about a "white queen"? Racism in our country has taken a form never seen in this world before.
@johnlewisy Why do you think an Asian or Middle Eastern man must think in racial terms? Or that he looks at his Queen and thinks only of the colour of her skin? Or that, as a proud Canadian, he can't take pride in having a Head of State who is above partisanship, or he can't take pride knowing that this is the descendant of the first Monarch of Canada and here there is a direct, human link with the past?
Clearly you don't realize Canada is divided by racial boundaries. Each racial group sticks up for their own and that's reality. Please tell me you don't think everyone lives in a happy world in Canada where we all love our beloved white British Queen regardless of racial and cultural background.
@johnlewisy Canada has racial boundaries -- whether it ought to have them is different. No, I don't think everyone loves the Queen (why again, with the 'white' stuff -- who cares what race she is! it's practically racist to think people of different races themselves are obsessed over colour and national origin). I think Canadians ought to be equal and ought to have pride in what has made Canada the country that it is. This doesnt mean only the Monarchy, but it does include it.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. Race and national origin is one of the most important things to Canadians. NO matter how much you herald the virtues of a united, multicultural commonwealth nation ruled by our glorious WHITE (her race is white) British Queen, minorities really can't fathom the idea of ruled by a white person. I don't look at race as a factor, but many people do. I look at the greater good of our nation as a whole and the Monarchy is NOT GOOD for our future
@johnlewisy But Canada isn't ruled by the Queen, the Queen doesn't rule, she doesn't legislate or administer justice or order the nation into war at her whims. For anyone to view the country being "ruled" by the Queen is to completely be detached from the actual system that is in place and has been since even before Confederation!
No, its worse than that. The Queen adds extra red tape to our political system with the processes of Royal Assent, the powers of the Governor General and the fact that the Queen has to come over a actually sign a bill if it's important enough
@johnlewisy The Governor General would have those powers absent a Monarchy. All you would do is change the title to "President". The same thing goes on in the Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Germany, etc. When has the Queen actually come over to sign a bill? The Charter was the last time. This is hardly an encumberance on the Nation or its finances.
@johnlewisy And yes, I do think a united, multicultural commonwealth is a virtueous thing indeed and I expect fellow citizens (and human beings) to be able to look beyond colour in a 21st Century democracy - or a 20th century one for that matter
Nope, in this era, we're going to have more bloodshed and wars over racial tensions and I would firmly want Canada to solidify our society into one great united country instead of a divided and racially based country under a British Monarch.
If not...the dangers of failing to integrate our minorities will be devastating
@johnlewisy Why do you assume we will have more bloodshed over racial tensions? And why, of all places, in lovely Canada? There are indeed ethnic and religious tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims throughout Europe, but immigrant nations like the US and Canada are light years ahead in terms of integration than the Euros. I really don't get where this image of racial doom and gloom comes from.
Canada has people from all these places. Anything that happens in the world impacts us. By creating a Canadian identity, we can go into the upcoming darker years of the world as one country
@johnlewisy To boil these down to racial conflicts is to oversimplify to distortion. Europeans don't hate other Europeans, there is an EU people trade and work and go back and forth. There is a problem w Muslim integration or lack thereof & even this ranges from country to country.
The Romanians hate Hungarians and vice versa. The Germans are really starting to hate the East Europeans and Russia is getting really annoyed with Georgia, Poland and the recent East European introductions to NATO. The French are starting to really hate immigrants and the Swiss are becoming very anti-immigrant. The Ukrainians are in love hate relationship with Russia and the Greeks/Irish/Poruguese are infuriated at the Germans. The UK is justing doing whatever it does
@johnlewisy But the EU hasn't split apart and the differences that do exist are economic, not racial or religious. No one is going to war with one another. The standard of living is quite high. And there never was an attempt to make Europeans "one people". The EU is first and foremost, an economic union, one that has broken down barriers to trade, investment, and labour. It seems you have a fixation on total unity, which is what the Communists wanted to fashion and millions died as a result
So far the differences are economic but how soon before it becomes racial or religious?
An Economic union is doomed without greater integration due to differences in fiscal policies, governments and different economic dynamics. Thus the only way for the EU to survive is by greater integration but no one seems willing to do that!
@johnlewisy Likely never. You talk of people "hating" each other in Europe as if this is 1930s type hatred. Europe is full of democracies and while anything can happen, some things are more or less likely. This is one of those less likely things. An Economic Union that is also monetary is you are right, nearly doomed to fail, and countries do not want to give up their control over fiscal matters. So the Euro might go away, but trade is still there and no one is invading anyone else's territory
If the Euro goes away, European countries are going to be economically crippled, look like fools in the eyes of the world and they'll likely blame each other for this humiliation.
Trade will be still there but it'll decline with the discontinuance of a common currency. Not only that, they'll become much easier prey to the Americans, Chinese and Russians
@johnlewisy I think the rise of nationalistic parties & opposition to immigrants is based on large part that new immigrants have not integrated. Society, the media, the politicians haven't demanded or expected loyalty, and so, you have, e.g. Muslims living in ghettos, engaging in barbaric acts like honour killings, attacking Jews, threatening cartoonists and filmmakers & because the mainstream parties won't deal with this issue they leave it to radical elements to take it up.
By the way, I'm not communist, I'm a Liberal party supporter.
The standard of living is quite high because they've learned their lesson after having two massive wars that crippled them to the point of bankruptcy. Without America....the European countries wouldn't be so rich today.
Ah, that's the source of increasing tensions, the FREE FLOW OF LABOUR. If an illegal immigrant gets into Europe, he can go anywhere in Europe with the exception of Russia, Ireland and the UK.
@johnlewisy And Hispanics, many of them, are American. There is a debate over immigration, but no mass bloodsheds. Canada does have people from all over the world and it is not too much to expect that they will keep their ancient wars, if they have them, back home and not here. Sure, f/e Palestinian Canadians will feel strongly about Palestine and Jews will feel strongly about Israel, etc.
No mass bloodshed? Do you have any idea how many Hispanics are dying in American deserts and at the hands of trigger happy Americans? Hundreds? Thousands?
It's only gonna get worse as Inflation and political instability shakes the nations of the Southern American regions
@johnlewisy Many hispanics have died in the desert trying to get to the US -- this is racial bloodshed or Mexicans wanting to get a chance to come to the US, a more prosperous country than Mexico? As for being killed at the hands of trigger happy Americans? From research, albeith brief, there was one case of homicide -- thats it.
@johnlewisy But Americans and Hispanics are not at each other's throats and Hispanics seem generally to be law abiding American citizens (those that are citizens) and are joining the ranks of law and politics (e.g. Marco Rubio, Sonia Sotomayor, Mel Martinez, Bob Martinez, Bill Richardson, Brian Sandoval, etc.). In other words, becoming a part of the fabric of the country -- like immigrants before them.
@johnlewisy I don't think I'm being overly idealistic in thinking that a Canadian of any race or origin can be proud of his country, its institutions, and its history, even if it was founded by a people of a different racial background, or by forefathers that were not directly his own.
I am proud of this country, its institutions and its history but I am NOT proud of the fact Britain seems to be leading us on a leash called the British Monarchy.
It is our duties as a independent nation to ensure that the last relics of the deceased British Empire are shattered and that a new, better Canada can be founded and that the current ideals of mere tolerance and uneasy avoidance are cast aside for integration and acceptance.
@johnlewisy I fail to see how Britain is leading Canada on a leash and I'm sure it would come as a shock to Brits (who often do not even know Canada shares the same Sovereign). We have a nice little old lady who has lived for half of Canada's existence since Confederation and doesn't get involved in politics, and an institution of the Crown that is an integral part of Canadian history, Parliament, the military, etc. You seem to give the Monarchy more meaning and importance than Monarchists do!
Britain holds great economic and political influence in Canada and this influence is seen greatly through the Monarchy. I find it really insulting that because the Monarchy sees Canada as its tame pet dog, we are always used for 'easy, introduction" trips for new "Royal" members of the Monarchy. All this comes at a severe cost to the Canadian taxpayer. Of course, brave duchesses, dukes, earls and the whatnot in Britain all need a brave military title.
@johnlewisy The Americans have much more political and economic influence on Canada than Britain and unless you think that the Royals secretly pull the strings of British political and military power I can't fathom how you think they control much of anything that Canada actually does. Easy introduction trips? Well yes, since Canada is a monarchy it is only right for the royals to visit Canada and they do so on the invitation of the Prime Minister of Canada. Just like any other dignitary.
Britain holds too much influence on a nation which is several times larger than it, next to the world's only superpower and the most multicultural nation in the world.
@johnlewisy Where do you see this British influence? We have a Queen and soldiers in red tunics and bear skin hats and a Parliament with a House of Commons. Other than that, I fail to see the hand of John Bull exerting undue influence on Canada -- Canada didn't go along with the UK to war in Iraq after all.
The brave duchess Camilla is the Colonel in Chief of the Queen's Own Rifles of Canada. She's been very brave indeed!
I find it very amusing that Canada tries to dissociate itself from the Monarchy's ties to Britain by having a "Monarchy of Canada". Who are we trying to kid?
@johnlewisy Now here you may be on more firm footing. It is called the Monarchy of Canada because under the law, it is a separate Crown. Of course, most people view the monarchy as British - the Royals live in Britain and speak with British accents. So I can understand why Canadians sometimes think the Monarchy is foreign.
@johnlewisy The Royals live in Britain, their upbringing is British. Yes, of course. But legally speaking they are also, in fact, Canadian. The Monarchy is a part of Canada, has been and is today. There isn't a contradiction. I do understand however, why Canadians can oppose having a monarch that does not reside in Canada.
It's taboo to be explicitly racist but in every Canadian there is some form of implicit racism which hinders our society. Maintaining a "British/white" identity threatens to destroy everything this country has worked so hard to achieve. By focusing on one existing identity we leave everyone else out. We need a new Canadian identity to make sure this doesn't happen.
@johnlewisy Is it implicit racism then to retain Parliament? That's a British invention you know! Or the English and French languages -- those are "white people" languages after all. I do not see and I don't think most patriotic Canadians - monarchists or not - see the Crown as having to do with race. The Crown is a part of Canada's heritage and history and Canada's history is for all Canadians regardless of race.
@johnlewisy The Queen is herself a non-political Head of State, which, and many people in Republics (including the US) will tell you, is something often to be envied. When I see the Queen, I, a Jew do not think "Christian" or "White", but simply a person who represents a long history that is part of Canada and that Canadians fought and died for and who is above petty partisan bickering.
No, the Queen is an extension of the British state as she is funded by the British government and acts the supreme head of the British state. The British national anthem, "God save our Queen".
Of course, death means nothing to you. Its mean nothing to anyone unless they lose a family member or are on the point of death themselves. The fact that you can dismiss the sacrifice of Canadians as "petty partisan bickering" is disgusting
@johnlewisy I am not sure where you got that I said that Canadians sacrificed themselves over "petty partisan bickering". I am horrified if that is what could even be mistakenly implied! I said that the Crown and Her Majesty the Queen is above petty partisan bickering. We are a democracy and partisanship is overall a good thing, but the Head of State is thankfully, above all that (unlike in the USA).
@johnlewisy A country needs a history to build an identity, the Monarchy, like the French language, and our western liberal democracy, might be a "white" invention, but its not for whites only, and there is no need to even look at it in racial terms. It is, as it always has been, Canadian.
By cutting ties with British Monarchy, I do realize many Monarchists (which uncoincidently are overwhelmingly white) like kanenkitten would fall into chronic depression but by eliminating this increasingly sensitive topic, we can create a more united country which bases itself on a CANADIAN IDENTITY.
So its decision time for the Canadian people, do we resolve it now or do we keep the ticking time bomb until the last minute? I think you know what the politicians will choose
All we need to tell Quebec is that if they go independent, no economic union, close all custom and border areas and withdrawal of all investment and they will defecate in their pants.
So, do you want it so that in the future, Metropolitan Vancouver and Victoria turns into the Lesser Chinese People's Republic?
Love Canada. Hate the Monarchy.
Magik604 1 week ago
@Magik604 Not Canadian.
silverdart333 6 days ago
Beautiful! What program do you use to animate the flag and background?
DelicinqRocket 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I have to admit, that flag is pretty awesome!
TheCGIMaster 3 weeks ago
@andrerieu100 It's the personal standard of Elizabeth the Second as Queen of Canada. It's basically the same as her normal personal standard, just with the addition of the white bar and maple leaves along the bottom.
supermsmarion 1 month ago
@supermsmarion and the fleur de lis which is for french canada.
mcaddicts 1 month ago
@mcaddicts I think it's for the ancient Kingdom of France, not French-Speaking Canada. Find the article of the former Kingdom of Great Britain on wikipedia and look at the coat of arms.
darkrhawk 1 month ago in playlist The Royal Hymn
@mcaddicts The fleur de lis was also symbols of French monarchy until 1792 when France became a republic. Last royal flag flew in France about 1830 then tricolour was recognised as national flag.
Edward III claimed France for England and for most part of the history the fleur des lis was on the English royal shield later British shield until 1801 when Britain gave up claim on France.
It still on the Canadian royal shield though cos of French settlers living in Canada.
DavBlc7 23 hours ago
what is the name of the flag
andrerieu100 1 month ago
@andrerieu100 The Royal Standard or H.M. the Queen's State Flag
CrownRoyal1945 1 month ago
wow...Best flag
hellenicNS 2 months ago
@BrCaSt87 it means less foreigners in England the better... England Tradition makes culture, English culture makes a country. It's pretty bloody simple.
wickedcircle 2 months ago
England is not so english anymore sorry to say it but those are the facts...
wickedcircle 2 months ago
God save the queen
Her facist regime
she made you a moron, potential H bonb
God save the queen she aint no human being
and theres no future and Englands deamin
zaphodtrillian 2 months ago
@zaphodtrillian theres no future in kissing america's ass anymore either
mcaddicts 2 months ago
Our lovèd Dominion bless
With peace and happiness
From shore to shore;
And let our Empire be
United, loyal, free,
True to herself and Thee
For evermore.
(canadian Verse)
mcaddicts 2 months ago
why become a republic so we can have a president and treat him like the king like obama is treated in the us or Sarkozy in france. Were fine the way we are, people bitch we have no history so hell lets destroy the last bit of true canadian history and traditions.
mcaddicts 2 months ago
@mcaddicts I agree lets invite the relations of the French monarchy in and have our own kings in Canada!
zaphodtrillian 2 months ago
The British Monarchy is a joke
Pvic 3 months ago
@Pvic: Care to elaborate?
apple2018 3 months ago
@apple2018 That the British people have to pay so that an inbreded aristocratic family can have a luxurious lifestyle. That the Uk media censors any sort of mockery/joke about the Royal Family. etc etc
Pvic 3 months ago
@Pvic: I agree with the censorship however every gov't does the same even our Harper gov wants a positive spin. May I ask what you would like to see? Republic?
apple2018 3 months ago
@Pvic Im British, dont mind it. Dont see why anything has to change just because you say so. Tradition makes culture, culture makes a country. It's pretty bloody simple.
IRememberTheOldDays 2 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays is that why the british culture, prestiege, economy, and status has been declining so rapidly recently?
Pvic 2 months ago
@Pvic You're blaming that on the royals?! I think you'll find it's happening to everyone. The reason Britain are no longer prevalent (although it pains me to say it) is because we, like many multiple european countries, did NOT follow Germany's example. And what do we find. Germany being the 3rd most powerful nation on earth.
IRememberTheOldDays 2 months ago
@Pvic
And Parliament is the punchline!
Ba-dum-shi.
Rakkeyal 1 month ago
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FUCKKKKKK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHUT UP CANADA IS NOT BRITISH IT'S CANADIAN WHY THE FUCK WHY THE BLODDY FUCK DO WE STILL HAVE THIS SONG AS A ROYAL ANTHEM WHY DO WE STILL HAVE A ROYAL ANTHEM DAMN IT NOW I KNOW WHY QUEBEC IS THE WAY IT IS CANADA NEEDS TO BE A REPUBLIC
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100
Good loyal colony you are.
ProtestantThomas 3 months ago
@ProtestantThomas umm who are you i'd take it your some child molesting creep
mbarana100 3 months ago
@ProtestantThomas eat from a toilet you skin headed child molesting child molested pathetic loser LMAO hahahaha
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 shut up and run back to France, or the Us, or what ever country you want to call home. You dont have to be Canadian you mug
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays i call canada home born and raised in oshawa and anyone who says mug is probebly some foreign pig lmao
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 oh im foreign alright. Pig? Pretty slamming statement, calling all 256 other countrymen and women pigs... Nice moves there bacon boy
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays ummm ok??? thats nice now if theres nothing else please kindly block me from youtube and go on with your liife
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 ... you are different, ill give you that
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays thank you and it's not like i have anything against british persons not at all all i'm saying is that canada and britain are two different nations and canada is a proud independent nation i don't like having the queen of another land saying she's queen of my land i don't even think she wants that type of foolishness and for us to have god save the queen as a royal anthem if canada thats pure bullshit and i'm sure you would have to agree with me
mbarana100 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays one of the things that reallly pissed me off is when the queen said her mother is canadian shes not a damn canadian she was not born here they have nothing to do with canada but i hope you don't think i have a problem with britons sorry i called you a foreign pig i don't even have anything if canada was to stay in the commonwealth it should be like south africa take the queen out of things and that british anthem as well or just leave the commonwealth
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 well, I cant speak for her. She might have meant it in another way, I dont know. I simply dont know. And you cant just extradite your heritage, Canada's constitution, traditions and functioning system is directly mapped on British protocol. You have your own way of course, Im not disputing that at all. But Canada is British, your Military wear British uniforms and swear to the Queen. Up until recently your flag sported a Jack and you sung GSTQ, just saying..
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@mbarana100 But I wish every success on Canada, i really do. A tutor of mine is Canadian and he has given me the faith that Canada and Canadians really are sterling people. I am personally proud to be associated with you, even if you aren't with me.
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays well thank you i think your an awsome person eh i'll add you as a youtube friend canada is one of the most succesful countries on earth i think we should be a republic i mean we should still be in the commonwealth but we should do it like how south africa does it and ghana and guiana and be a republic and remove the queen nothing against her personally i don't even know her but saying shes queen of another country is almost nazism in my books and i know you agree with me
mbarana100 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays by the way my names michael
mbarana100 3 months ago
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IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@mbarana100 nice to meet, they calls me Derek
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays by the way sorry if i offended you the other day i'm not a nasty person i just take certain things very seriously i'm a very strong nationalist
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 ah its fine, Im exactly the same. (topics like the Falklands and national face get me riled more than Id like) Same to you. I just think its a shame we let ourselves down in ole Britannia by handling this so poorly that now our old colonies don't really like us , its a real shame !
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays well it's not the people it's just the system trying to say well we are independent but then were not really real countries like having the union jack on the flag of the province of ontario and even on countries like australia and new zealand but i think that England is one of the nicest countries in the world they are our friend and england has done a lot of good like stoping Hitler from invading your land and kicking the shit out of the nazis
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 but we all owe just as much to the ANZACS, Gurkha rifles etc, all our colonial best! I consider it an honour that they fought with and for us and some decide to maintain the flag. Does genuinely mean a lot. Plus, Im all for having a mixed Britain. They did so much for us, the least we can do is welcome them and their countrymen and women into our society with open arms, after all we all really want the same thing :)
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays your right in fact i'd go beyond that and say that we need a world with one centralized unity not saying all countries in one but i love institutions like the un eu and commonwealth i know there not perfect but without them i think the world would be a much more difficult place to live in there would be more wars and death i honestly belive that
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 aye, so do I ! The problem is you have a Conservative view of no change and also the Liberal side, get rid of everything in the name of finance and progress, living alongside and cooperating fully (never going to happen) which means we'll never agree. And unfortunately humans are inherently warlike . Its what we do : /
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays at least you are someone who i can talk too and you can understand what i'm talking about and we can have a decent conversation without any name calling and us acting like we threated to murder each other lol i can't stand people online who do nothing but say nasty things from behind a computer you know what i mean at least we have the balls to apologise and talk properly
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 hear hear! Its just too easy for people to be ignorant keyboard warriors and get their, supposed, views across. And its refreshing to be able to converse with someone willing to do so, as you have just mentioned. This is one reason Im taking Government and Politics, so I can get my teeth into proper debate and discussion without the need for nerve tonic or a long range rifle .. Thank you, Michael
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays lol no problem in the words of a quote i heard in the movie napoleon who by the way is one of my heroes the diffrence between politicians and soldiers are that soldiers kill with there guns politicians kill with there words LMAO some people here on these chats sometimes think there soldiers it's kind of funny and yet so pathetic if they think there so tough why not join the Military LOL
mbarana100 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays but seriously i'm glad your my friend i like smart well educated friends because i'm a bit of a geek so these little discustions are just so nice to get into and it's such a breath of fresh air that when i talk to you you actually know what i'm talking about and can make a logical rebutal
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 well, I cant argue with that now ;D say, we need to have a proper debate on a topic of choice! Up for that?
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays damn right i am let me think how do you feel about the european Union or unions in general like the african union united nations do you feel there a good idea i do i think your country should have the euro i think it was a very bad mistake for Margreat Thather to leave your country out of the Eurozone she was being in my opinion selfish and closedminded
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana100 or possibly Irish/Sottish Independence? Britain as a new country, post Empirical? I dont know which country you hail from so I can suggest one which may be relevant to your good self. Falklands territory? Heck, there are so many things that need debating!
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@IRememberTheOldDays tell me about i have a mix of senegalise gambian carribean/indian irish scottish french and finnally hispanic but born and raised here in Canada this world is just full of controversy lol wait i just thought of something you are up very very late it's 7:13 here but it's past midnight were you are lol
mbarana100 3 months ago
@mbarana10 Sorry about that I had to get some sleep before my lectures started.
IRememberTheOldDays 3 months ago
@mbarana100: I will tell you that its next to imposible for Canada to become a republic. If you under stood the amending formula you would see every province has to have majority support and as we know no province can every agree on anything so the Queen is here to stay! Long Live the Queen.
apple2018 3 months ago
@apple2018 LOL don't try to prove anything to me or try to be smart with me because i'm not impressed
mbarana100 3 months ago
@apple2018 you obviously don't know whats going on in the commonwealth with canada and australia they say those too countries are closer to a republic then jamaica anyway im not talking to you your wanting attention leave me alone
mbarana100 3 months ago
british canada colony age
dhksrksalem 4 months ago
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darkrhawk 5 months ago in playlist My Favorite Anthems of the World
The lyrics in french:
Dieu protège la reine
De sa main souveraine!
Vive la reine!
Qu'un règne glorieux,
Long et victorieux
Rende son peuple heureux.
Vive la reine!
Now sing along!
darkrhawk 5 months ago in playlist My Favorite Anthems of the World 60
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darkrhawk 5 months ago in playlist My Favorite Anthems of the World
Possibly the only country to show it's respect towards it's heritage.
ComeOnBritain 5 months ago
What an Anthem. What a Country. What an Empire. The Maple Leaf Forever.
MrPreston49 5 months ago
thanks canada for being the only of many countries to respect your british heritage, thanks
timothydavey1 6 months ago
@timothydavey1 :D wish we still had the Union flag on our flag but Quebec...ya know. I really liked the Canadian Red ensign and especially our naval blue ensign, very australian lol
MrBarelylethal 5 months ago
@MrBarelylethal When something's wrong with Canada, blame Québec. Classic.
Querido17 5 months ago in playlist Videos from LordDaine
@MrBarelylethal Well actually, the flag is no problem in Canada. Stop living in the past.
Querido17 5 months ago in playlist Videos from LordDaine
@timothydavey1 No problem.
TxtACRowetxT 5 months ago
Is canada the ONLY country that respects it's british heritage?
AlternateEmpires 6 months ago 17
@AlternateEmpires Australia maybe, not sure though. I know the Queen still makes visits to Australia a lot and they still have the Union Jack on their flag/
TxtACRowetxT 5 months ago
@AlternateEmpires BRITISH HERITAGE WHAT FUCKING BRITISH HERITAGE WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE EHH IF YOU WERE TO EVER SAY THAT HERE YOU'D BE FUCKING JUMPED RIGHT ON THE STREET WE WOULD CUT YOUR THROAT OFF AND HEAD AND SHIT IN IT AND LAUGH AT YOUR PAIN DON'T YOU DARE SAY OUR HERITAGE IS BRITISH CUNT WE ARE A SEPREATE NATION AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HERITAGE YOU GOOF TALK ABOUT OUR FRENCH HISTORY AS WELL THERE ARE MORE PERSONS HERE OF FRENCH DESENT THEN BRITISH GOOF
mbarana100 3 months ago
@AlternateEmpires it seems like it, doesn't it?
sicilianotoronto 3 months ago
LOL
jackdaniels19711 3 months ago
@AlternateEmpires I refuse to believe that
PeteyGunn 3 months ago
@AlternateEmpires Yes... what you were thinking... =P lol
wickedcircle 2 months ago
THE OLD FLAG WAs way better
emperorfrance 7 months ago
is it posible to request a vid like this?
darthkarr 7 months ago
Hey, there's a part of the Quebec flag there!
darkrhawk 8 months ago
@darkrhawk Actually it's for France, not Québec. Check the old British coats of arms, they have fur-de-lises on them.
scoobyrds 7 months ago
@scoobyrds thanks!
darkrhawk 7 months ago
@scoobyrds I beg your pardon, but why is it for France? I mean, Canada is not linked to the French Republic, only to the British Monarch.
darkrhawk 7 months ago
@darkrhawk Did you check the Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Great Britain? Not the UK, GBR. It has fur-de-lises on it. Add this to the end of Wikipedia's URL: wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Great_Britain_(1714-1801).svg
scoobyrds 7 months ago
@scoobyrds I saw it! Just awesome! But you know, It also appears on the French King's Standard and the Royal Coat of Arms of the ancient Kingdom of France, what a coincidence!
darkrhawk 7 months ago
@darkrhawk Yeah, in Medieval times, England always wanted to be just like France. But, it got obsessive, and they invaded.. (Hundred Years' War). Although, that obsession with France ended when England became the America of its day, and ut became a bitter rivalry.
scoobyrds 7 months ago
LOL nice flag
0YTMan 9 months ago
What is this? But if it's the anthem of the United Kingdom
agustingfl 10 months ago
"Dieu protège la reine" in french. ;)
RobbieDPL 11 months ago
That's a nice flag I'll say. But our current is the best ever.
canuckleful 11 months ago
@canuckleful
that's the queen's personal flag in canada.
EvanC0912 11 months ago
@EvanC0912 That right? Hm. Thanks :)
canuckleful 11 months ago
@canuckleful
ur welcome.
it's true.. it serves to indicate the queen's presence when she is in canada. its purpose more or less equals to the royal standard in the UK. (which is flown on buildings or vehicles where the queen is in.)
EvanC0912 11 months ago
The description says: "Good" instead of "God". Please change it.
LittleReshef 11 months ago
What program do you use to make the flags? I love your creativity.
sfcalvinaz 11 months ago
truly a great flag and anthem, god save the queen.
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
Long live the Canadian Federation Republic!
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy yeh, no.
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231 ah, yes it is :)
mccrie407 11 months ago
@mccrie407 canada isnt a republic, its part of the british crown, deal with it
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
We will. We'll deal with this problem as soon as we can
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
Canada's independence was not a one time event where we all declared independence. It was a step by step process of cutting ties with Britain through many milestones.
Let's complete this process of independence and create a greater nation which is unburdened by the detrimental impact of the Monarchy on our national identity, economy and politics.
CANADA!
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy the crown only exists as a political tie between two brother nations, it has little to no influence, thats why its still there, to reign, but not to rule. btw how is canada going to get richer by succeeding?
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
In politics, Canada is "forced" to abide by a multicameral system (Legislature and Senate) and then we have to get the "Crown's approval" and if its big, the Queen has to sign it.
Do you have any damn idea about how long it takes to pass legislation because of this? Our nation will remain almost one step behind on every issue until we have the ability to pass our laws, faster with less red tape
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy i would probably agree to something like a decrease in red tape, but a decrease in tape doesn't mean that the canada should leave the crown, all it does is provide futher diplomatic links to britain, canada, Australia, new zealand and other small nations, nothing much,. i think canada elected a multicultural system.
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
Australia also wants to become a Republic after Elizabeth the Second passes away.
I think the term you're looking for is unicameral (1 decision making entity) not multicultural
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
But yes, we definitely need our politics and society to better reflect the multiculturalism of Canadian society
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
Economic issues- Britain is using their 'cultural ties" to us from the Monarchy to exploit our financial and resource based industries. Britain's London Stock Exchange is trying to acquire TMX Group which operates ALL of Canada's exchanges. If Britain takes control of our stock exchanges, they will have not only cultural power over us but also economic power to manipulate our political and economic policies
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy ..............okay, britain is doing that, is the british crown?
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
The British crown is an extension of the British state and the state funds all of the Monarchy's activities and the Monarchy represents and promotes Britain
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
On national identity, you risk alienating a large percentage of our countrymen by maintaining ties with the British Monarchy. Do you really think the Chinese businessman in Vancouver and the 44% of the Toronto population that is foreign born really likes the fact that the Supreme Head of Canada is a old British lady? They tolerate it but by no means do they actually like it. It's only going to get worse from here.
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy I'm not sure who gave you the right to speak on behalf of all non-white Canadians or why you think you can assume how they must feel - but regardless of race, ethnicity, or national origin, Canadians are Canadians, and that means accepting and adopting certain (if not all) aspects of the country's history and traditions. This includes the monarchy.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
You really don't know how our country works.... we may share a "common frame of interest" in the argument but we're not sharing a "common language". You're so idealistic...unfortunately ideals have the tendency of being destroyed by reality. Could you honestly look me in the eye and tell me that a Asian or Middle Eastern man who is "Canadian" honestly care about a "white queen"? Racism in our country has taken a form never seen in this world before.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Why do you think an Asian or Middle Eastern man must think in racial terms? Or that he looks at his Queen and thinks only of the colour of her skin? Or that, as a proud Canadian, he can't take pride in having a Head of State who is above partisanship, or he can't take pride knowing that this is the descendant of the first Monarch of Canada and here there is a direct, human link with the past?
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Clearly you don't realize Canada is divided by racial boundaries. Each racial group sticks up for their own and that's reality. Please tell me you don't think everyone lives in a happy world in Canada where we all love our beloved white British Queen regardless of racial and cultural background.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Canada has racial boundaries -- whether it ought to have them is different. No, I don't think everyone loves the Queen (why again, with the 'white' stuff -- who cares what race she is! it's practically racist to think people of different races themselves are obsessed over colour and national origin). I think Canadians ought to be equal and ought to have pride in what has made Canada the country that it is. This doesnt mean only the Monarchy, but it does include it.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
That's what I'm trying to tell you. Race and national origin is one of the most important things to Canadians. NO matter how much you herald the virtues of a united, multicultural commonwealth nation ruled by our glorious WHITE (her race is white) British Queen, minorities really can't fathom the idea of ruled by a white person. I don't look at race as a factor, but many people do. I look at the greater good of our nation as a whole and the Monarchy is NOT GOOD for our future
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy But Canada isn't ruled by the Queen, the Queen doesn't rule, she doesn't legislate or administer justice or order the nation into war at her whims. For anyone to view the country being "ruled" by the Queen is to completely be detached from the actual system that is in place and has been since even before Confederation!
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
No, its worse than that. The Queen adds extra red tape to our political system with the processes of Royal Assent, the powers of the Governor General and the fact that the Queen has to come over a actually sign a bill if it's important enough
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy The Governor General would have those powers absent a Monarchy. All you would do is change the title to "President". The same thing goes on in the Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Germany, etc. When has the Queen actually come over to sign a bill? The Charter was the last time. This is hardly an encumberance on the Nation or its finances.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
The presence of a governor general and lieutenant governors are a extravagant cost that Canada in a time of economic hardship cannot allow.
A government headed by only a Prime Minister would be most ideal
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy And yes, I do think a united, multicultural commonwealth is a virtueous thing indeed and I expect fellow citizens (and human beings) to be able to look beyond colour in a 21st Century democracy - or a 20th century one for that matter
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Nope, in this era, we're going to have more bloodshed and wars over racial tensions and I would firmly want Canada to solidify our society into one great united country instead of a divided and racially based country under a British Monarch.
If not...the dangers of failing to integrate our minorities will be devastating
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Why do you assume we will have more bloodshed over racial tensions? And why, of all places, in lovely Canada? There are indeed ethnic and religious tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims throughout Europe, but immigrant nations like the US and Canada are light years ahead in terms of integration than the Euros. I really don't get where this image of racial doom and gloom comes from.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Hate Relationships
America- Hispanics
Europe- Other Europeans
Middle East- Israel, Europe, America
Asia- Other Asians, America
Africa- Other Africans, European, America
Canada has people from all these places. Anything that happens in the world impacts us. By creating a Canadian identity, we can go into the upcoming darker years of the world as one country
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy To boil these down to racial conflicts is to oversimplify to distortion. Europeans don't hate other Europeans, there is an EU people trade and work and go back and forth. There is a problem w Muslim integration or lack thereof & even this ranges from country to country.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
The Romanians hate Hungarians and vice versa. The Germans are really starting to hate the East Europeans and Russia is getting really annoyed with Georgia, Poland and the recent East European introductions to NATO. The French are starting to really hate immigrants and the Swiss are becoming very anti-immigrant. The Ukrainians are in love hate relationship with Russia and the Greeks/Irish/Poruguese are infuriated at the Germans. The UK is justing doing whatever it does
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@B21983
The European Union is a classic example of what happens when you fuse a bunch of peoples together and try to create a supranational country.
Their differences are what is splitting the European Union apart right now. They weren't able to become one people and eliminate their differences
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy But the EU hasn't split apart and the differences that do exist are economic, not racial or religious. No one is going to war with one another. The standard of living is quite high. And there never was an attempt to make Europeans "one people". The EU is first and foremost, an economic union, one that has broken down barriers to trade, investment, and labour. It seems you have a fixation on total unity, which is what the Communists wanted to fashion and millions died as a result
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
So far the differences are economic but how soon before it becomes racial or religious?
An Economic union is doomed without greater integration due to differences in fiscal policies, governments and different economic dynamics. Thus the only way for the EU to survive is by greater integration but no one seems willing to do that!
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Likely never. You talk of people "hating" each other in Europe as if this is 1930s type hatred. Europe is full of democracies and while anything can happen, some things are more or less likely. This is one of those less likely things. An Economic Union that is also monetary is you are right, nearly doomed to fail, and countries do not want to give up their control over fiscal matters. So the Euro might go away, but trade is still there and no one is invading anyone else's territory
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
If the Euro goes away, European countries are going to be economically crippled, look like fools in the eyes of the world and they'll likely blame each other for this humiliation.
Trade will be still there but it'll decline with the discontinuance of a common currency. Not only that, they'll become much easier prey to the Americans, Chinese and Russians
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@B21983
How do explain the rise of ultra-nationalistic parties in Europe, and the increasing opposition to immigrants both non-European and European?
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy I think the rise of nationalistic parties & opposition to immigrants is based on large part that new immigrants have not integrated. Society, the media, the politicians haven't demanded or expected loyalty, and so, you have, e.g. Muslims living in ghettos, engaging in barbaric acts like honour killings, attacking Jews, threatening cartoonists and filmmakers & because the mainstream parties won't deal with this issue they leave it to radical elements to take it up.
B21983 9 months ago
By the way, I'm not communist, I'm a Liberal party supporter.
The standard of living is quite high because they've learned their lesson after having two massive wars that crippled them to the point of bankruptcy. Without America....the European countries wouldn't be so rich today.
Ah, that's the source of increasing tensions, the FREE FLOW OF LABOUR. If an illegal immigrant gets into Europe, he can go anywhere in Europe with the exception of Russia, Ireland and the UK.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy And Hispanics, many of them, are American. There is a debate over immigration, but no mass bloodsheds. Canada does have people from all over the world and it is not too much to expect that they will keep their ancient wars, if they have them, back home and not here. Sure, f/e Palestinian Canadians will feel strongly about Palestine and Jews will feel strongly about Israel, etc.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
No mass bloodshed? Do you have any idea how many Hispanics are dying in American deserts and at the hands of trigger happy Americans? Hundreds? Thousands?
It's only gonna get worse as Inflation and political instability shakes the nations of the Southern American regions
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Many hispanics have died in the desert trying to get to the US -- this is racial bloodshed or Mexicans wanting to get a chance to come to the US, a more prosperous country than Mexico? As for being killed at the hands of trigger happy Americans? From research, albeith brief, there was one case of homicide -- thats it.
B21983 9 months ago
@johnlewisy But Americans and Hispanics are not at each other's throats and Hispanics seem generally to be law abiding American citizens (those that are citizens) and are joining the ranks of law and politics (e.g. Marco Rubio, Sonia Sotomayor, Mel Martinez, Bob Martinez, Bill Richardson, Brian Sandoval, etc.). In other words, becoming a part of the fabric of the country -- like immigrants before them.
B21983 9 months ago
@johnlewisy I don't think I'm being overly idealistic in thinking that a Canadian of any race or origin can be proud of his country, its institutions, and its history, even if it was founded by a people of a different racial background, or by forefathers that were not directly his own.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
I am proud of this country, its institutions and its history but I am NOT proud of the fact Britain seems to be leading us on a leash called the British Monarchy.
It is our duties as a independent nation to ensure that the last relics of the deceased British Empire are shattered and that a new, better Canada can be founded and that the current ideals of mere tolerance and uneasy avoidance are cast aside for integration and acceptance.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy I fail to see how Britain is leading Canada on a leash and I'm sure it would come as a shock to Brits (who often do not even know Canada shares the same Sovereign). We have a nice little old lady who has lived for half of Canada's existence since Confederation and doesn't get involved in politics, and an institution of the Crown that is an integral part of Canadian history, Parliament, the military, etc. You seem to give the Monarchy more meaning and importance than Monarchists do!
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Britain holds great economic and political influence in Canada and this influence is seen greatly through the Monarchy. I find it really insulting that because the Monarchy sees Canada as its tame pet dog, we are always used for 'easy, introduction" trips for new "Royal" members of the Monarchy. All this comes at a severe cost to the Canadian taxpayer. Of course, brave duchesses, dukes, earls and the whatnot in Britain all need a brave military title.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy The Americans have much more political and economic influence on Canada than Britain and unless you think that the Royals secretly pull the strings of British political and military power I can't fathom how you think they control much of anything that Canada actually does. Easy introduction trips? Well yes, since Canada is a monarchy it is only right for the royals to visit Canada and they do so on the invitation of the Prime Minister of Canada. Just like any other dignitary.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Britain holds too much influence on a nation which is several times larger than it, next to the world's only superpower and the most multicultural nation in the world.
Why? The Monarchy of Britain
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Where do you see this British influence? We have a Queen and soldiers in red tunics and bear skin hats and a Parliament with a House of Commons. Other than that, I fail to see the hand of John Bull exerting undue influence on Canada -- Canada didn't go along with the UK to war in Iraq after all.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
The brave duchess Camilla is the Colonel in Chief of the Queen's Own Rifles of Canada. She's been very brave indeed!
I find it very amusing that Canada tries to dissociate itself from the Monarchy's ties to Britain by having a "Monarchy of Canada". Who are we trying to kid?
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Now here you may be on more firm footing. It is called the Monarchy of Canada because under the law, it is a separate Crown. Of course, most people view the monarchy as British - the Royals live in Britain and speak with British accents. So I can understand why Canadians sometimes think the Monarchy is foreign.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
Sometimes? You just stated yourself, the Monarchy lives in Britain and is British!
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy The Royals live in Britain, their upbringing is British. Yes, of course. But legally speaking they are also, in fact, Canadian. The Monarchy is a part of Canada, has been and is today. There isn't a contradiction. I do understand however, why Canadians can oppose having a monarch that does not reside in Canada.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
It's taboo to be explicitly racist but in every Canadian there is some form of implicit racism which hinders our society. Maintaining a "British/white" identity threatens to destroy everything this country has worked so hard to achieve. By focusing on one existing identity we leave everyone else out. We need a new Canadian identity to make sure this doesn't happen.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy Is it implicit racism then to retain Parliament? That's a British invention you know! Or the English and French languages -- those are "white people" languages after all. I do not see and I don't think most patriotic Canadians - monarchists or not - see the Crown as having to do with race. The Crown is a part of Canada's heritage and history and Canada's history is for all Canadians regardless of race.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
I'm not talking about the already "Canadian" aspects of Canada. I'm talking about DIRECT British influence like the Queen and the governor general.
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy The Queen is herself a non-political Head of State, which, and many people in Republics (including the US) will tell you, is something often to be envied. When I see the Queen, I, a Jew do not think "Christian" or "White", but simply a person who represents a long history that is part of Canada and that Canadians fought and died for and who is above petty partisan bickering.
B21983 9 months ago
@B21983
No, the Queen is an extension of the British state as she is funded by the British government and acts the supreme head of the British state. The British national anthem, "God save our Queen".
Of course, death means nothing to you. Its mean nothing to anyone unless they lose a family member or are on the point of death themselves. The fact that you can dismiss the sacrifice of Canadians as "petty partisan bickering" is disgusting
johnlewisy 9 months ago
@johnlewisy I am not sure where you got that I said that Canadians sacrificed themselves over "petty partisan bickering". I am horrified if that is what could even be mistakenly implied! I said that the Crown and Her Majesty the Queen is above petty partisan bickering. We are a democracy and partisanship is overall a good thing, but the Head of State is thankfully, above all that (unlike in the USA).
B21983 9 months ago
@johnlewisy A country needs a history to build an identity, the Monarchy, like the French language, and our western liberal democracy, might be a "white" invention, but its not for whites only, and there is no need to even look at it in racial terms. It is, as it always has been, Canadian.
B21983 9 months ago
@sabaton1231
By cutting ties with British Monarchy, I do realize many Monarchists (which uncoincidently are overwhelmingly white) like kanenkitten would fall into chronic depression but by eliminating this increasingly sensitive topic, we can create a more united country which bases itself on a CANADIAN IDENTITY.
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy in truth, it would split the whole damn nation, might even cause the whole quebec thing to boil over.
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
So its decision time for the Canadian people, do we resolve it now or do we keep the ticking time bomb until the last minute? I think you know what the politicians will choose
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@sabaton1231
All we need to tell Quebec is that if they go independent, no economic union, close all custom and border areas and withdrawal of all investment and they will defecate in their pants.
So, do you want it so that in the future, Metropolitan Vancouver and Victoria turns into the Lesser Chinese People's Republic?
johnlewisy 11 months ago
@johnlewisy your suggesting the chinese will invade if Canada does not succeed the british crown..........................your stupid
sabaton1231 11 months ago