I believe Ron Wyatt discovered all the things that he claims, but there's no way that he saw Jesus. Jesus doesn't come back until the second coming! But this fact in no way discredits what he discovered. Satan appears as an angel of light. I believe he did this exactly to Ron.
@BeckaAire The thing is as I explained a while back, even for a professional archaeologist it is near to impossible to get authorisation to excavate in Israel. So how will an amateur like Ron get aproval. Besides if an archaeologist would be able to claim even only one of those finds Ron says he did it would prove a life worth of research. He found dozens and that on his short trips to Isreal. You say W.A.R. is doing excavations? Could you elaborate on the abreviation?
@Lugh12341 Sir, just visit the IAA's official page and ask them. They confirm Ron had a permit now. you can also ask for their official report of the excavations done in the Garden tomb in 2004,2005, 2006 & 2007. W.A.R (together with IAA) has just finished the beginning of work in Zedekiah's cave. You can see some pictures on this guys blog: (scroll down).
@BeckaAire -The IAA does not confirm Ron has a permit, but, merely, that he excavated in the area held by the Garden Tomb Association. Dan Bahat apparently signed something or other relating to Ron Wyatt's excavations (see Bernard Brandstater), probably a recommendation to the Warden of the Garden Tomb, but it was not an excavation license. Dan Bahat never held any position permitting him to sign excavation licenses.
It has been some years ago that I replied to this video and it is funny to see that the reactions to it havn't changed. Even though Ron has been exposed as a fraud. Even christians should agree that his work has made a farce of christianity. Either you believe or you don't, you do not need proof. Especially not from the likes of Ron.
@BeckaAire thanks , im on a search for real christians, and ron wyatt seems the real deal, a group of tung speakers where telling me that the ten commandments are not for people after christ, and they recon when you recieve the holy spirit you speak in tungs(bable) but to me when you recieve the holy spirit you know, like asking someone have they ever being in love and they say i think so, you know if you have being in love, thanks buddy
@biomechanical1976 If you read your Bible carefully, It says that others heard each in their own tongue, Tongues is not a gift of speech so much as a gift of hearing. It allows others to hear in their language, it doesn't mean that you speak gibberish and they hear things within what you say. Many are confused to this I think.
Asking for proof before you believe something, can stop you from receiving what God wants you to accept based on His Word. Thomas watched Jesus die. That’s hard evidence to refute. As a result, Thomas decided to believe only what he could see and verify. Jesus graciously gave Thomas the proof he needed, and said, ‘You believe because you have seen … Blessed are those who believe without seeing.’
The fact remains, however, that if Thomas hadn’t been permitted to see and touch Jesus, it wouldn’t have changed the reality of the resurrection one iota. Thomas’ problem wasn’t lack of faith, it was misdirected faith. He trusted only what he could process on a human level. Sound familiar?
How can you claim to discover something without providing evidence? That is what the scientific method is. No evidence.....no scientific method....means no discovery. What a POS this snake oil salesman was.
I think of Revelation and how the writter was told NOT to write something, but keep it hidden until the end. Those who know of this discovery and accept it are to whom much is given and much is expected. Those who choose to reject it do so at their eternal peril. I need to straighten up myself!
Ron makes some pretty bold statements I hope he was able to corroborate- with testimony from other people and picture evidence, and corroborate with more of the same. Him saying he knows how the Pyramids were created and knows how to make one (in insinuating); well that is a huge bomb to intellectually drop. There he says so casually. -Him saying that stuff means pretty much crap, if he doesn't get the info out. It means nothing if he doesn't back up his talk. I am a Christian.
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If anyone who is part of Ron Wyatts team could please email me at avatalent@aol.com....we are a Agency/production company out of New Orleans and would be interested in his complete story....please email us, thanks.
It's interesting that any kind of substantial Christian video gets targeted by youtube with a featured video by some azdingleberry or the red army choir.
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I just wanted to ask April to consider that the human brow bone is the only bone in the body that grows throughout a lifetime, it is possible that the crowmagnum man did live for 900 years in a hyper berich chamber type atmospher, and would account for the large ape like skulls found. They probablly used their jaws as tools, and as they have observed in the Aborigines who also use their Jaws as a tool , they usually have a very large jaw bone. Just so you can consider that God is our creator.
I just wanted to ask April to consider that the human brow bone is the only bone in the body that grows throughout a lifetime, it is possible that the crowmagnum man did live for 900 years in a hyper berich chamber type atmospher, and would account for the large ape like skulls found. They probablly used their jaws as tools, and as they have observed in the Aborigines who also use their Jaws as a tool , they usually have a very large jaw bone.
Here is to Ron Wyatt finder of 18 religous artifacts including the landing spot of the ark, the parting of the sea chariot wheel, 10 commandments, etc.. So what if scientists and your own church call you a fraud. Here is to a man who was able to sell dvds and tours to people that dont look into anything. I salute you!
I don't understand the negativity being written about Ron. I've never met the man but I can tell you that he's a crusader for Christ, a humble man and after the right kind of knowledge.
What he's done in his research is better than what has been done and at least he's not peddling Christianity, he's exploring it and finding it to be true.
13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say , Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? 16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding ?
Ro Wyatts claims were either true, or he was a hired,professional deceiver. There's no way he could be simply mistaken with good intentions. I love how people will HEAR something, then the next thing they simply HEAR is automatic proof of fallacy in the first claim. Words are words, it doesnt matter what order you hear them in,yet people always assume the rebuttal is the fact. someone telling you someone else is lying means only one thing, SOMEONE is lying.
that hole is over 300 feet long how did Ron wyatt be able to survive that hole without any oxygen? 6 other israeles tried to go through that hole but all 6 had died trying?
Wyatt's claims regarding the ark of the covenant are unbiblical. He most certainly did not find the blood of Christ. Christ's blood did not trickle down to the literal Mercy Seat. If supernatural beings did indeed speak with him, they were from beneath, not of heavenly origin, because holy beings would not contradict the word of God.
@thelastcrisis See the first 5 books of the Bible, especially where God gives the instruction on the Passover sacrifice. It was done in forgiveness of sin, and had to be re-done each year as it was imperfect. God/Yeshua shed His blood in the only perfect sacrifice ever, and need not be repeated.
It is dangerous ground when the 9th commandment is ignored. Ron Wyatt was a COMMANDMENT KEEPING CHRISTIAN. Neither Catholic, nominal Protestant, Muslim or Jew is credited for verifying Noah's Ark, the Red Sea Crossing, and now, (even though the Israeli government is silent), he is credited with piecing together the last call of GOD to a lawless world: the Immutable Sacred Law. GOD used a humble, lowly man to fulfill the words, "A good understanding have all they that do His commandments." Ps.111
@weberblau Read the first five books of the Bible and pay close attention to what God told them to do during sacrifices. Each year at Passover, blood was always sprinkled, not wiped or poured, on the corner of the Mercy Seat in forgiveness of sins. It was done at God's instruction. Yeshua dying on the cross would have been an unacceptable sacrifice if His blood had simply spilled out on the ground. It had to be sprinkled on the Mercy Seat, the top of the Ark, in order to be done right.
I'm trying hard to believe you, however, I'm too frightened to blaspheme against the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or even more dangerous, Thor and Wotan in our woods.
@weberblau Ah, yes. The choice between fallen angels masquerading as gods and the Creator Himself. The fallen angels made a bad career choice; should we also do the same? Tough one to reason thru there.
@weberblau Something just struck me here. (I'm not a quick witted sort) Don't believe me. I'm a man and worse, a sinner. I have in the past been an atheist but am no longer. Check out everything I say, and check it thoroughly. As a man I could be wrong, and you need to know what the facts and truth are. Look deeply into both sides of the Ark story and let your heart tell you which is right and who is lying. Liars can be descerned.
@weberblau Nope. I must point out that it took a while, but I began using my brain once I graduated from the university. I looked at world around and knew it could not be the result of random selection. There had to be a grand design, it was not something that happened by chance.
@weberblau I used to think that too. Instead, I chose to live a better life, help others, love my family and friends. Shoot, what is there to loose? My debt and your debt are paid, whether you like it or not. Salvation is not earned, it is a gift. All you have to do is accept the gift.
@april231953 What you are talking about went to COURT. It is the 2005 case of Kitzmiller vs Dover School. DVD Judgement Day: intelligent design on trial. It is on youtube. Discovery institute already argued that there was a grand designer and random selection couldnt have taken place. The judge who was religious, could only rule against the discovery institute and for random selection under the weight of the evidence. it is one thing to be ignorant, it is another thing to post it.
@april231953 Ignorant means " Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated." I have 3 research degrees and spent 3 years researching where the bible stories came from, who wrote them and when they were wrote. There was a whole libraries worth of gospels to choose from when the bible was put together. Man put it together (forced by the Roman Ruler). All the gospels with womens rights and women writers were excluded. If God chose them, he must hate women.
@Information39 Mine is a lowly BS in Business Admin. I tried Psych, Soc, and Anthro in search of concrete proof against the Bible before I sobered up and studied business. If you found it and know the Bible to be just some stories written by man, then you did better than I. I am not a fan of the Roman religion, I'm Messianic Jewish. As to the wisdom and insight of those who teach and instruct at universities, look who runs them and see; maybe there is a good reason they are at the schools.
@april231953 "As to the wisdom and insight of those who teach and instruct at universities, look who runs them and see; maybe there is a good reason they are at the schools." Not sure what this has to do with our disussion? My research classes were taught straight out of the text. There wasnt discussion on how the professor felt about it. That is the beauty of math, statistics, etc. There is one correct answer. All my bible research was done 15 years after college, on my own.
@april231953 The old testament was put together around 586bc when the Israelites fell to the Babylonians. It was meant to be about hope and inspiration, never meant to be taken literally (watch Testament 1:John Romer). The stories they wrote like Noahs ark were re-writes of previous cultures myth stories that had been told in and around their regions (see: Epic of Gilgamesh). Archelogical work has confirmed that there was never a worldwide flood, just myths (Noahs ark: the true story).
@Information39 "Beware, there will be scofferswho will follow their own unGodly desires." You mis-understand the discovery of these items. We do not need them for faith, we believe without them. I am good with the idea that God knows exactly what He is doing in sprinkling His own blood on the Ark of the Covenant, once and for all in forgiveness of sins. Scoff all you want.
@april231953 I didnt misunderstand anything. Faith by definition "belief in something, without evidence and in many cases in the face of evidence to the contrary." You say you did research, but it sounds like you didnt know Ron Wyatt is a known fraud, seen any of the dvds I have mentioned, but probably know of Lee Strobel-who uses "scientist" who dont put their info in science journals or put them up for peer review, because they are completely incorrect.
@april231953 J, E, P, D writers? Do you know who they are and who wrote what part of the bible? I would like to know what you found in your research? And where did you look for info?
@april231953 In your research, did you ever google "Smithsonian Institute Origins of Man"? Go to the Smithsonian Intitutes online site and you will see all the skeletons showing how man and chimps broke off from a common ancestor and slowly evolved. Or better yet go visit the Smithsonian Institute in Washington DC in person. Just because you couldnt find the info, doesnt mean it wasnt there. This is the part of "Faith" which is belief "in the face of evidence to the contrary."
@Information39 can u tell me what skeletons smithsonian have? i dont mean one tooth,or one bone from a foot, they have built a whole skeleton around. i mean an actual skelton.post a link if you can find one.to back up your claims..would be great to see the missing link that has not been found
Here is what a reliable christian website has to say about the many claims of Ron Wyatt . He is the one behind the chariot wheels in the Red sea.--Are the claims true? If they are, such a staggeringly impressive list would mean that Ron Wyatt had been almost as miraculously assisted by God as the patriarch Moses
Here is what a reliable christian website has to say about the many claims of Ron Wyatt . He is the one behind the chariot wheels in the Red sea.--Are the claims true? If they are, such a staggeringly impressive list would mean that Ron Wyatt had been almost as miraculously assisted by God as the patriarch Moses
Ron Wyatts discoveries are nonsense; Here is a statement in a very reliable christian website:----Are the claims true? If they are, such a staggeringly impressive list would mean that Ron Wyatt had been almost as miraculously assisted by God as the patriarch Moses---
@lizazoon if you really are lack of attention, go and dig all Ron Wyatts discoveries but make sure that God will allow you to do this things. God has a purpose for every human beings. This is his purpose to Ron, "to be a living testimony". How about you? What do you think is God's purpose to you? NOTHING!! Because you are such a FOOL DEVILISH PSYCHO THAT IS NEEDING AN ATTENTION. Go and dig something for yourself right behind your own backyard, PSYCHO!!!!!!
@jhelynjo66 : Go back to your cave man. That`s where you belong. You have no brain to judge for yourself, what is true and what is not, what is possible and what is not. And in case you are a christian, would you kindly tell me what verse in your bible gives you the right to insult people. You seem to be fanatical maniac, with the capacity to reason of a kindergarten kid.
@jhelynjo66: Even some of Ron Wyatts close friends and collaborators deny wyatts claims. E.G. The Radarspecialist, who went with Wyatt to the site he indicated for Noah`s Ark.
Ron Wyatt claimed to have found Noah's ark, the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, the location of Sodom And Gomorrah, the Tower of Babel, the true site of Mt. Sinai, the true site of the crucifixion of Jesus, AND the original stones of the Ten Commandments (Whew! He finds whatever he looks for!). He also found a bunch of "chariot wheels" in the Red Sea, which he claimed proved the Biblical account of the Exodus from Egypt. Alas, the "wheels" turned out to be coral formations. Fail.
@Imaginefree69 you missed the golden chariot wheel.... lol why do you have to bash this man? he has not harmed you in any way he's bringing the truth to the whole world and you still just throw it away... sad it really is
I truly believe many artifacts are out there, But I have my droughts about Ron Wyatt, ark clam, however his other Biblical archeology seems credible.... (If he did find the Ark, I can see why the Israelis would want to guard it carefully) i.e. No photos It would be truly wonderful to have a credible photo of the Ark of the Covenant. Lets The Temple artifacts from the Solomons and the Messianic Temples are defiantly out there, lets hope they bring peace and joy at there reviling..
@SCE2OXSaturn5 : Check out what the Biblical Arcgaeological society thinks about all Ron Wyatts discoveries. There is no evidence for any of his findings.
if you will listen to him instead of trying to look between the lines, he said God guided him to these findings and he wasnt really even looking for most of them.He also states that all evidence will be reveiled at the end of times, cause thats when it will be the most uselfull in the salvation of our souls against the rule of the beast. so open up your ears, you say you cant believe cause there is no evidence, but, can you say you cant beilive God cause you cant see him?
@Bigbruiser61 amen to that! god bless you as you speak truth to all with hardened hearts who are unwilling to see the way the truth and the light though our lord jesus christ!
@Bigbruiser61-- he said God guided him to these findings -- That`s just what`s wrong with all his findings. God does not intervene in archaeology. Ron Wyatt is a fraud.
@lizazoon I doubt God calls it archaeology. God knew it was there and for reasons He alone knows, revealed it to Ron. I'm cool with God doing whatever He wants, whenever He wants, for whatever reasons He wants.
@lizazoon Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't the Jewish officials lie aabout him to keep Ark fervor from welling over into riots? Could he have lifted a shovel full of dirt in Israel without being approached for his papers?
@april231953 . From all his so called discoveries, not a single piece of evidence has been shown up in any museum. Not a single piece has been presented for peer inspection. NOTHING. Fraud from A to Z. That is also the opinion of christian organisations, Check it out.
@lizazoon Does it have to be in a museum to be real? I'm cool with God not wanting His Ark to be revealed completely until it is time. Just because churches declare something doesn't make it so. Do you think 6 million Hebrews could camp out and feed their flocks on the tiny amount of level ground where Constantine's mommy said was Mt. Sinai? It is not even where the Bible says it should be. And I'm OK with you not believing any of it. I will only cast pearls before swine a few times.
@april231953-- I will only cast pearls before swine a few times. --- Your unchristian self-righteousnes is noticed. Why don`t you just study you "swine litterature' a bit more. You are just a petty Pharizee, knowing the letter of the law very well, but not the spirit.. Your master called them ... whitewashed graves, pure on the outside, stinking inside... Good day, little swine.
Maybe not all Ron's presumptions are real, but impossible to have digged without authorization! You cannot raise a finger as foreigner in Middle East without having Security of State on your tail.
Besides, Ron showed to journalists photos with him and the Jewish Head of Antiquities. How can that guy say he does not know Wyatt? If Wyatt is a scam why nobody brings up the truth? It seems his opponents have no real prooves.I can't believe that all he says is just a lie...
The IAA is now admitting he did have a permit. So that old accusations is no longer valid. The question one should ask is why did they want to hide that he had the permit in the first place? The last escavations have proven Ron correct so faar.. the rediscovery of the roman building structure, the cistern, the hole he made into the tunnel system etc etc.. people who is coming with the same old accusations should atleast get updated..
@BeckaAire -The fact remains-the Jewish Govt. had to seal-off and concrete the entrance to the cave because people were dropping like flies getting next to the ark......so when men decide to appreciate and call HOLY Gods laws and to Obey them...maybe he wont fall from false doctrine and pridefull religious bigotry.....The mark of the Beast must come before the ARK is revealed to mankind...the mark is to DENY the Saviuor and His Precious Blood to accept mans satanic laws**DONT TAKE THE MARK!!!!!
one logic question: if Ron had no permit to dig how did he do it? Jerusalem is not an empty place, you cannot throw one needle without being noticed...and asked about , etc
Too bad he hasn't produced a single piece of evidence that can be confirmed by others on pretty much any of his claims.
I believed him until I really started looking at the "evidence" and the different stories he tells at different times. They still keep promising to release new evidence from discoveries from 15 years ago, but it will be on the "next video" which will cost $49.95... (in 2008 per the IRS, they brought in ~$104,000, ~$56,000 of it went to payroll and benefits, mostly to 1 man)
Actually when it comes to his claims there is quite substantial evidence to support it. For instance look into those who helped with the analysis of his findings. Names etc. At least those do come back as hard evidence. Sure there are those who may take advantage of his findings for profit. But that does not mean the findings are false.
Galbraith Laboratories: Only tested for 3 things, yet claimed to have proved it's Petrified Wood. Offers by Baumgardner and others to have fully tested turned down. No sign of woodgrain. (look at pictures of petrified trees, they have rings and the cell structure showing)
Baumgardner; (he's a creation scientist by the way) Went back with a team including several others Wyatt had worked with, did Radar, Seismic, Magnetometer, and Core samples, and couldn't replicate Wyatt's results.
On the Ark OTC, he has not produced any evidence at all. He claims he had a lab test it, but has refused to name the lab or show the lab test results, he doesn't have any pictures and when he accepted $10's of thousands to allow a group of christian TV ministries to film the cave after they got there he said he had changed his mind and they couldn't film it but they couldn't have their money back either. One of them pushed past him and went down the shaft and found a small empty room at the end
Be more specific on which item you want to see the evidence on, and I might be able to fit it in here!
Although I may be able to provide evidence, what I recommend is to look at what he claims is evidence, and see if it is enough to convince.
He provides enough evidence for somebody that wants to believe, to be able to believe. I know, because he had me going for quite a while! Then I started noticing things just not adding up, and it all fell apart. (I wish I could include links in comments..)
It is Ron and his wife that have been taking advantage of his finding for profit, and granted that alone doesn't prove them false, but combined with the lack of proof, it points that direction!
Joe Zias, the head of Israel Antiquities claims to have never Wyatt a permit to dig (and Wyatt has refused to show the one he claims to have) Zias has also said publicly that Wyatt is free to produce any evidence he wants to, despite Ron's claims that Zias told him he couldn't release any evidence. Etc..
That is the most refreshing comment I have seen on Youtube in ages! :) An open mind... wow... heh heh
Anyway, if you do run into something that you can't find satisfactory answers for, I do have some stuff that isn't available online that helped clear up some things for me.
(it is research that some people that are personally know to me (in the real world!) did into Wyatt's claims.)
(P.S. Jon. Gray was the one who got Wyatt popular, I would look closely at him also)
A lot dispute his findings due to no proof of permit for digging. Israel say in a statement that the permit was never granted. Its being purposefully hidden. Do some research about the permit and you will see what I am talking about. I think that it is possible that his findings are real. At least will never rule it out unless proven false.
The issue with the permit is he claims he was issued one, Israel claims he never would have been given one because he doesn't have the required degrees, and he claims he has the permit in his possession. BUT he has refused for years to show it to anybody. He claims to have the hard evidence for many of his claims, but has always (and his wife has continued the trend) refused to produce this evidence.
He has lead his followers on for 30 something? years now, and they still wait for hard proof...
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
"whether he is lying or not.?" I wouldn't make a hero of someone who lies. I have studied body language and still do, Ron Wyatt's body language does not indicate that he is lying. Plus his discoveries Noah's Ark, Red Sea crossing and the Cities of Sodom and Gomorra can and have been confirmed. There are some questions unanswered surrounding him, but the evidence of his discoveries are there. Just one of his discoveries could make a career.
He didn't discover the Noah's Ark site, it has had many teams research it before and after him, and none have found any evidence to corroborate his claims.
The facts do not shine kindly on the Red Sea crossing. Including the biblical account, the depth of the water, the fact that the depth he claimed to find the chariot wheels is deeper than you can safely scuba dive without special equipment, and I can go on... Shiny gold wheels after 200 miles of rough rocky desert sand roads?? Come on! Think!
Apparently you don't know much about physical properties of gold.
I wasn't talking about the luster after 4000 years underwater, I was talking about the physical abuse on gold covered chariot wheels traveling hundreds of miles through the deserts and mountains at high speed.
Gold is a very soft metal, about as hard as your fingernail. It would be scratched, scarred and gouged badly, unlike the perfectly smooth and shiny pictures Wyatt shows. Look at Whitewall tireas on a gravel road sometime!
If he is lying, he is leading people astray, which is leading them right into the devil's trap.
"Lying" and "good work" are not compatible.
I do not claim he lies, but the things he claims are not truth even if he believes them.
Once something that can be verified as authentic proof by independent sources is presented, I will re-visit the subject, but since he lays out big stories but has yet to present proof for any of them, I have had to reach this conclusion.
Hey Youtube. I went to the Wyatt Museum in Cornersville, Tenn. USA. I uploaded my first video with some footage of it. Just check out my channel to see it. I highly suggest to go there!
Ron claims to have had it tested and it was found to still be alive and have 24 chromosomes (despite the Bible saying Jesus was like us in every way "body and blood"), but he has (as is normal with his discoveries) NEVER shown evidence of it, told which laboratory did the testing or allowed anybody else to see it or test it.
I believe we should be careful not to follow "every wind of doctrine" that comes by, unless we can prove it from the Bible, and test it for ourselves.
why don't you go and try to do it yourself. do you think he can just go to Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and doooooooooooo all of these things without the permission of the local government of each country he visited.
if you can get a permission or a notice from the government of those countries, then maybe you can hire me to take your photo. only to take your photo but not to believe in your talk as I believe in God and all his miracles.
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."
- Richard Dawkins
"" the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence ""
I do not spam. I am simply being subjected to the same questions repeatedly over and over and even if I answer to the best of my abilities, it would be very similar to the first time I answered this question in the first place, so I may just as well copy and paste to save time. It is different when debating intellectuals that listen, learn and interact. No historical records nor fact can convince a believer. That is what "blind faith" means.
Have faith, don't listen to reason. It's your call.
So, rather than try to help people with finding the 'light of God', you seem to rather be happy to let them (myself included) suffer the "eternal flames of torment". Would you not go to Hell too for not caring about the rest of us?
No, I don't want anybody to go there ---I was wrong about Wyatt. I don't think he was honest about his activities, evidence he was a fraud....no, not happy ANY should suffer that. His light can be found in His Word. Romans & John good places to start.
Why is it that all of the historians you list were born decades after Jesus' death? If I were trying to provide evidence for the existence of Julius Caesar, for example, I would provide the writing of people who were alive when he was, not people who were born decades after he died and heard about him from others. Why have you provided no evidence from historians who were writing during Jesus' life time?
Look up these historians- all made references to Jesus: Cornelius Tacitus (56-120 AD) ,Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus (AD 61-113), Hadrian, Imperator Caesar Trainus, (AD 76-136), Emperor Trajan (AD 53 - 117), Lucian of Samosata lived A.D. 120-180, Phlegon, born about A.D. 80, Flavius Josephus (AD 37-100), theres more if you want. I want to thank you though. People like you actually made me do my research and its only strentghened my faith.
@bmart744 Josephus have been proved a fraud for hundreds of years, but he and some 1st century Romans are the only ones mentioning Jesus (outside the Bible) and that was decades or centuries later. Philo of Alexandria (20 BC - 50 AD) who actually lived in Jerusalem during the era of Christ's supposed birth and death, wrote a reputable history of the Jews in his time but makes not a single reference to Jesus in any way. This is striking evidence of Jesus Christ's conjured mythological nature.
Also do your research on the other religions that christianity supposedly copied their beliefs from. Its so stupid. One ancient religion said they had a god that was born of a virgin. Did the research on that. He was born from a rock. (bad comparison) I did the research on a lot of these old religions and didn't find one credible one. Many of them switched their beliefs after Christianity had been around for a couple hundred years and mimiced the Christian beliefs
@bmart744 Wikipedia and Google won't make an expert of anyone. Read some research and books by real scholars, historians and theology professors. For example D.M. Murdock who also speak many different languages and is classically educated in archaeology, history, mythology and religion. Information you find in English is often different from what can be found in Greek or Latin. It also depends on when it was written. That also proves my point. History have a way of corrupting itself.
We could sit here and argue forever on our beliefs, but the main reason why I believe what I do is not just b/c of the Bible. I can't begin to explain to you the experiences that i've had in my life that have confirmed my beliefs. In that last 5 years my life has completely changed. In a world of uncertainty with terrorism and world disasters, famine, gangs, wars, etc. I have so much peace knowing that there is something better. We are here today and gone tomorrow. I can truthfully say
that I don't fear death. The world is gonna keep getting worse off. People, more than ever today, are searching for something beyond themselves. Many people are getting into the New Age movements and the occult. The vast majority of people in the world believe in a higher power. If you can believe in a higher power, than why is it so hard to believe that a god could want us to know him through a book.
Im sure you know who Voltaire is. He tried to eradicate the Bible and was quoted as saying that within 100 years of his death Christianity would be dead: On his death bed he was quoted as saying "I am abandoned by God and man I shall go to hell." He also said "I have swallowed nothing but smoke I have intoxicated myself with the incense that turned my head
The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold
Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ: DM Murdock - a scientific analysis of the data regarding Jesus.
"Despite the false claims, ZEITGEIST has not been refuted. My book Christ in Egypt will demonstrate through primary and highly credentialed sources that all of the Horus-Jesus connections in ZEITGEIST are factual." -D.M. Murdock
I understand that we both have bias toward our beliefs, but if you really want to do true research (that means having an open mind), then either get the book 'The Case for the Real Jesus' or get the cd series. I got the CD series and it has over 10 hours of info. by Lee Strobel (use to be a confirmed atheist). He gives a laundry list of people for and against Christianity. He gives all the possible arguments against Christianity and interviews people to get the answers.
@bmart744 Now hypothetically speaking. Even if Jesus existed as a prophet, he was far from original. There where lots of messiahs and prophets in those times. For example Apollonius of Tyana who in the 1st century was claimed by his followers that he healed the sick, raised the dead, he was able to walk threw walls and he was persecuted for his religious belief and brought to trial by the local Roman courts and was crucified. Then he ascended to heaven and later was resurrected.
Do you realize that the Bible has influenced society and History more than any other book and it is the most banned book in history. Is it weird to you that so many people have tried to eradicate the Bible. If the Bible is a load of crap than why you so scared of it. You must spend so much time trying to disprove it.
Imagaine spending 3 years of your life with someone almost everyday learning from them and then spending the rest of your life teaching what he taught. You don't think it would be possible to write what you teach everyday down after 40+ years. It wasn't just one person having one conversation with Jesus, never thinking about the conversation again for 60 years, and then deciding to write the info down. Bad comparison. There were many people that spent they're lives preaching Jesus' words.
@bmart744 No, none of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses, the earliest dating 65 C.E. and most are thought to be significantly later, and the earliest New Testament texts were purportedly authored by early church founder Paul of Tarsus, who was not an eyewitness. It may be a stretch to describe stories of events written 40 years after they supposedly occurred as "eyewitness accounts", when the average lifespan of a human in those times was likely much lower.
@bmart744 Claiming the NT and the Gospels to be accurate or even credible, is like reading back this conversation 60 years from now by memory, and by a third party who was not a witness to the conversation in the first place.
you must not have read my comment on this one already- after spending 3 years with Jesus- the apostles spent the rest of their lives preaching the gospel (good news). If I spent the rest of my life preaching to people about the conversation that we are having, I think I will be able to write about it 30-40 years from now. I dont think that would be too hard. The Bible also says that Paul spent time with some of the apostles.
Stone rebellious children to death! Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Sell your daughter as a slave! Exodus 21:7-8 Slave pricing: Leviticus 27:3-6 If a girl gets raped, then stone her for not screaming loud enough! Deuteronomy 22:23-29 Ignoring the law? Matthew 5:17 (New International Version) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Truth is, none of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses, the earliest dating 65 C.E. and most are thought to be significantly later. Philo (20 BC - 50 AD) who lived in Jerusalem during the era of Christ, wrote a reputable history of the Jews in his time but makes not a single reference to Jesus in any way. There are numerous non-biblical historians from this time, not none of them documented this figure. This is striking evidence of Jesus Christ's conjured mythological nature.
A Roman Jewish historian and a proved a fraud for hundreds of years. He and some 1st century Romans are the only ones mentioning Jesus (outside the Bible) and that was decades or centuries later. That proves what? None of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses.
What a shining example of how we are to live for G-d. I am blessed by finding the story of this man. G-d bless his soul forever. <3
lorilamb1544 2 weeks ago
Can't deny he believes what he is saying
tquinlan5 3 weeks ago
I believe Ron Wyatt discovered all the things that he claims, but there's no way that he saw Jesus. Jesus doesn't come back until the second coming! But this fact in no way discredits what he discovered. Satan appears as an angel of light. I believe he did this exactly to Ron.
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Never, ever ask this guy to tell you a story. You may die of old age before he gets to the point.
TheFestivelights 3 months ago
@BeckaAire The thing is as I explained a while back, even for a professional archaeologist it is near to impossible to get authorisation to excavate in Israel. So how will an amateur like Ron get aproval. Besides if an archaeologist would be able to claim even only one of those finds Ron says he did it would prove a life worth of research. He found dozens and that on his short trips to Isreal. You say W.A.R. is doing excavations? Could you elaborate on the abreviation?
Lugh12341 4 months ago
@Lugh12341 Sir, just visit the IAA's official page and ask them. They confirm Ron had a permit now. you can also ask for their official report of the excavations done in the Garden tomb in 2004,2005, 2006 & 2007. W.A.R (together with IAA) has just finished the beginning of work in Zedekiah's cave. You can see some pictures on this guys blog: (scroll down).
BeckaAire 4 months ago
@BeckaAire archaeologist.zapd.net
BeckaAire 4 months ago
@BeckaAire -The IAA does not confirm Ron has a permit, but, merely, that he excavated in the area held by the Garden Tomb Association. Dan Bahat apparently signed something or other relating to Ron Wyatt's excavations (see Bernard Brandstater), probably a recommendation to the Warden of the Garden Tomb, but it was not an excavation license. Dan Bahat never held any position permitting him to sign excavation licenses.
againstjebelallawz 3 weeks ago
It has been some years ago that I replied to this video and it is funny to see that the reactions to it havn't changed. Even though Ron has been exposed as a fraud. Even christians should agree that his work has made a farce of christianity. Either you believe or you don't, you do not need proof. Especially not from the likes of Ron.
Lugh12341 4 months ago
does anyone know did ron wyatt speak in tungs? i would be very appreciative if anyone could tell me, thanks
biomechanical1976 6 months ago
@biomechanical1976 Hi.. no he didn't.
BeckaAire 6 months ago
@BeckaAire thanks , im on a search for real christians, and ron wyatt seems the real deal, a group of tung speakers where telling me that the ten commandments are not for people after christ, and they recon when you recieve the holy spirit you speak in tungs(bable) but to me when you recieve the holy spirit you know, like asking someone have they ever being in love and they say i think so, you know if you have being in love, thanks buddy
biomechanical1976 6 months ago
@biomechanical1976 If you read your Bible carefully, It says that others heard each in their own tongue, Tongues is not a gift of speech so much as a gift of hearing. It allows others to hear in their language, it doesn't mean that you speak gibberish and they hear things within what you say. Many are confused to this I think.
auditorization 3 weeks ago
Asking for proof before you believe something, can stop you from receiving what God wants you to accept based on His Word. Thomas watched Jesus die. That’s hard evidence to refute. As a result, Thomas decided to believe only what he could see and verify. Jesus graciously gave Thomas the proof he needed, and said, ‘You believe because you have seen … Blessed are those who believe without seeing.’
JayWestmoreland 8 months ago
The fact remains, however, that if Thomas hadn’t been permitted to see and touch Jesus, it wouldn’t have changed the reality of the resurrection one iota. Thomas’ problem wasn’t lack of faith, it was misdirected faith. He trusted only what he could process on a human level. Sound familiar?
JayWestmoreland 8 months ago
How can you claim to discover something without providing evidence? That is what the scientific method is. No evidence.....no scientific method....means no discovery. What a POS this snake oil salesman was.
dkspartan1 8 months ago
I can hear someone speaking norwegian in there Lol
ainanor 9 months ago
I think of Revelation and how the writter was told NOT to write something, but keep it hidden until the end. Those who know of this discovery and accept it are to whom much is given and much is expected. Those who choose to reject it do so at their eternal peril. I need to straighten up myself!
april231953 9 months ago
Ron makes some pretty bold statements I hope he was able to corroborate- with testimony from other people and picture evidence, and corroborate with more of the same. Him saying he knows how the Pyramids were created and knows how to make one (in insinuating); well that is a huge bomb to intellectually drop. There he says so casually. -Him saying that stuff means pretty much crap, if he doesn't get the info out. It means nothing if he doesn't back up his talk. I am a Christian.
Oh, Well.
mamaschristmasbunny 9 months ago
If anyone who is part of Ron Wyatts team could please email me at avatalent@aol.com....we are a Agency/production company out of New Orleans and would be interested in his complete story....please email us, thanks.
Ali Alherimi
Sparks2221 9 months ago
@Sparks2221 Have you gone directly to the website they maintain? I'm sure there is a contact number there.
panno16 8 months ago
If anyone who is part of Ron Wyatts team could please email me at avatalent@aol.com....we are a Agency/production company out of New Orleans and would be interested in his complete story....please email us, thanks.
Ali Alherimi
Sparks2221 9 months ago
It's interesting that any kind of substantial Christian video gets targeted by youtube with a featured video by some azdingleberry or the red army choir.
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godnmyhands 11 months ago
I just wanted to ask April to consider that the human brow bone is the only bone in the body that grows throughout a lifetime, it is possible that the crowmagnum man did live for 900 years in a hyper berich chamber type atmospher, and would account for the large ape like skulls found. They probablly used their jaws as tools, and as they have observed in the Aborigines who also use their Jaws as a tool , they usually have a very large jaw bone. Just so you can consider that God is our creator.
kiki7772001 1 year ago
I just wanted to ask April to consider that the human brow bone is the only bone in the body that grows throughout a lifetime, it is possible that the crowmagnum man did live for 900 years in a hyper berich chamber type atmospher, and would account for the large ape like skulls found. They probablly used their jaws as tools, and as they have observed in the Aborigines who also use their Jaws as a tool , they usually have a very large jaw bone.
kiki7772001 1 year ago
Here is to Ron Wyatt finder of 18 religous artifacts including the landing spot of the ark, the parting of the sea chariot wheel, 10 commandments, etc.. So what if scientists and your own church call you a fraud. Here is to a man who was able to sell dvds and tours to people that dont look into anything. I salute you!
Information39 1 year ago
I don't understand the negativity being written about Ron. I've never met the man but I can tell you that he's a crusader for Christ, a humble man and after the right kind of knowledge.
What he's done in his research is better than what has been done and at least he's not peddling Christianity, he's exploring it and finding it to be true.
I find it more refreshing than other research.
badgertale 1 year ago 2
13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
gusolive75 1 year ago
15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say , Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? 16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding ?
gusolive75 1 year ago
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
(1611 KJV)
gusolive75 1 year ago
Ro Wyatts claims were either true, or he was a hired,professional deceiver. There's no way he could be simply mistaken with good intentions. I love how people will HEAR something, then the next thing they simply HEAR is automatic proof of fallacy in the first claim. Words are words, it doesnt matter what order you hear them in,yet people always assume the rebuttal is the fact. someone telling you someone else is lying means only one thing, SOMEONE is lying.
AndrewKH85 1 year ago 5
@AndrewKH85 ron wyatts claims are true because the evidence speaks for itself.
bobcatallstar7 6 days ago
Ron Wyatt has found the ark of the covenant !!
incognita1989 1 year ago
@incognita1989 FRAUD. Fodder for a movie.
lizazoon 1 year ago
CAN WE BECOME BETTER PERSONS????
Joemactheman 1 year ago
Why is someone talking in the background???
spacebunny3000 1 year ago
that hole is over 300 feet long how did Ron wyatt be able to survive that hole without any oxygen? 6 other israeles tried to go through that hole but all 6 had died trying?
tubedude101 1 year ago
@tubedude101 Seems to me they died from something other than suffocation. Stroke?
april231953 1 year ago
Wyatt's claims regarding the ark of the covenant are unbiblical. He most certainly did not find the blood of Christ. Christ's blood did not trickle down to the literal Mercy Seat. If supernatural beings did indeed speak with him, they were from beneath, not of heavenly origin, because holy beings would not contradict the word of God.
thelastcrisis 1 year ago
@thelastcrisis See the first 5 books of the Bible, especially where God gives the instruction on the Passover sacrifice. It was done in forgiveness of sin, and had to be re-done each year as it was imperfect. God/Yeshua shed His blood in the only perfect sacrifice ever, and need not be repeated.
april231953 1 year ago
What did Ron do for work that allowed him to travel to and from the Middle East so often?
aeroflying 1 year ago
Truly all things are possible with God. See, He even left one of the greatest historical and archeological discoveries to Uncle Jessie.
germanicelt 1 year ago
It is dangerous ground when the 9th commandment is ignored. Ron Wyatt was a COMMANDMENT KEEPING CHRISTIAN. Neither Catholic, nominal Protestant, Muslim or Jew is credited for verifying Noah's Ark, the Red Sea Crossing, and now, (even though the Israeli government is silent), he is credited with piecing together the last call of GOD to a lawless world: the Immutable Sacred Law. GOD used a humble, lowly man to fulfill the words, "A good understanding have all they that do His commandments." Ps.111
utopiandesign 1 year ago 2
@utopiandesign amen well put
TheLinebacker63 1 year ago
God bless you,brother!
Hans021220 1 year ago
well, as of the last couple of days there has now been 99.9% confirmation of Noah Ark which he found years back.. check it out.. its real..
marcmarc10 1 year ago
@marcmarc10
100% bullshit. The only real thing here is you being a troll!
weberblau 1 year ago
@weberblau Read the first five books of the Bible and pay close attention to what God told them to do during sacrifices. Each year at Passover, blood was always sprinkled, not wiped or poured, on the corner of the Mercy Seat in forgiveness of sins. It was done at God's instruction. Yeshua dying on the cross would have been an unacceptable sacrifice if His blood had simply spilled out on the ground. It had to be sprinkled on the Mercy Seat, the top of the Ark, in order to be done right.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953
I'm trying hard to believe you, however, I'm too frightened to blaspheme against the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or even more dangerous, Thor and Wotan in our woods.
So thanks, but no thanks.
weberblau 1 year ago
@weberblau Ah, yes. The choice between fallen angels masquerading as gods and the Creator Himself. The fallen angels made a bad career choice; should we also do the same? Tough one to reason thru there.
april231953 1 year ago
@weberblau Something just struck me here. (I'm not a quick witted sort) Don't believe me. I'm a man and worse, a sinner. I have in the past been an atheist but am no longer. Check out everything I say, and check it thoroughly. As a man I could be wrong, and you need to know what the facts and truth are. Look deeply into both sides of the Ark story and let your heart tell you which is right and who is lying. Liars can be descerned.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953
Interesting. How did you manage to become a believer as an atheist? Donating your brain?
weberblau 1 year ago
@weberblau Nope. I must point out that it took a while, but I began using my brain once I graduated from the university. I looked at world around and knew it could not be the result of random selection. There had to be a grand design, it was not something that happened by chance.
april231953 1 year ago 6
@april231953
Yes, you better go ahead, keep your eyes shut, waste your life and wait for your heavenly rewards.
Too sad.
weberblau 1 year ago
@weberblau I used to think that too. Instead, I chose to live a better life, help others, love my family and friends. Shoot, what is there to loose? My debt and your debt are paid, whether you like it or not. Salvation is not earned, it is a gift. All you have to do is accept the gift.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 What you are talking about went to COURT. It is the 2005 case of Kitzmiller vs Dover School. DVD Judgement Day: intelligent design on trial. It is on youtube. Discovery institute already argued that there was a grand designer and random selection couldnt have taken place. The judge who was religious, could only rule against the discovery institute and for random selection under the weight of the evidence. it is one thing to be ignorant, it is another thing to post it.
Information39 1 year ago
@Information39 How about being so ignorant as to trust in man and his courts? I'll leave my trust in God, where it belongs.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 Ignorant means " Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated." I have 3 research degrees and spent 3 years researching where the bible stories came from, who wrote them and when they were wrote. There was a whole libraries worth of gospels to choose from when the bible was put together. Man put it together (forced by the Roman Ruler). All the gospels with womens rights and women writers were excluded. If God chose them, he must hate women.
Information39 1 year ago
@Information39 Mine is a lowly BS in Business Admin. I tried Psych, Soc, and Anthro in search of concrete proof against the Bible before I sobered up and studied business. If you found it and know the Bible to be just some stories written by man, then you did better than I. I am not a fan of the Roman religion, I'm Messianic Jewish. As to the wisdom and insight of those who teach and instruct at universities, look who runs them and see; maybe there is a good reason they are at the schools.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 "As to the wisdom and insight of those who teach and instruct at universities, look who runs them and see; maybe there is a good reason they are at the schools." Not sure what this has to do with our disussion? My research classes were taught straight out of the text. There wasnt discussion on how the professor felt about it. That is the beauty of math, statistics, etc. There is one correct answer. All my bible research was done 15 years after college, on my own.
Information39 1 year ago
@april231953 The old testament was put together around 586bc when the Israelites fell to the Babylonians. It was meant to be about hope and inspiration, never meant to be taken literally (watch Testament 1:John Romer). The stories they wrote like Noahs ark were re-writes of previous cultures myth stories that had been told in and around their regions (see: Epic of Gilgamesh). Archelogical work has confirmed that there was never a worldwide flood, just myths (Noahs ark: the true story).
Information39 1 year ago
@Information39 "Beware, there will be scofferswho will follow their own unGodly desires." You mis-understand the discovery of these items. We do not need them for faith, we believe without them. I am good with the idea that God knows exactly what He is doing in sprinkling His own blood on the Ark of the Covenant, once and for all in forgiveness of sins. Scoff all you want.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 I didnt misunderstand anything. Faith by definition "belief in something, without evidence and in many cases in the face of evidence to the contrary." You say you did research, but it sounds like you didnt know Ron Wyatt is a known fraud, seen any of the dvds I have mentioned, but probably know of Lee Strobel-who uses "scientist" who dont put their info in science journals or put them up for peer review, because they are completely incorrect.
Information39 1 year ago
@april231953 J, E, P, D writers? Do you know who they are and who wrote what part of the bible? I would like to know what you found in your research? And where did you look for info?
Information39 1 year ago
@april231953 Yes, you really did mis-understand. What is worse, I'm feeling like I was casting my pearls before swine.
Take Care.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 In your research, did you ever google "Smithsonian Institute Origins of Man"? Go to the Smithsonian Intitutes online site and you will see all the skeletons showing how man and chimps broke off from a common ancestor and slowly evolved. Or better yet go visit the Smithsonian Institute in Washington DC in person. Just because you couldnt find the info, doesnt mean it wasnt there. This is the part of "Faith" which is belief "in the face of evidence to the contrary."
Information39 1 year ago
@Information39 can u tell me what skeletons smithsonian have? i dont mean one tooth,or one bone from a foot, they have built a whole skeleton around. i mean an actual skelton.post a link if you can find one.to back up your claims..would be great to see the missing link that has not been found
fatrambo73 10 months ago
@weberblau you are a cunt
gusolive75 1 year ago
@gusolive75
Forgot your pills? Again?
weberblau 1 year ago
@weberblau dont do pills dipshit.
feeling high and mighty with your shit, wet knowledge? dweeb
gusolive75 1 year ago
@gusolive75
Yes, thank you, especially the wet part of it..
And I really do enjoy your loving and exemplary Christian way of thinking and commenting!
And btw, shouldn't it read 'shitty, wetly knowledge'? Just curious...
weberblau 1 year ago
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lizazoon 1 year ago
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lizazoon 1 year ago
Ron Wyatts discoveries are nonsense; Here is a statement in a very reliable christian website:----Are the claims true? If they are, such a staggeringly impressive list would mean that Ron Wyatt had been almost as miraculously assisted by God as the patriarch Moses---
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon if you really are lack of attention, go and dig all Ron Wyatts discoveries but make sure that God will allow you to do this things. God has a purpose for every human beings. This is his purpose to Ron, "to be a living testimony". How about you? What do you think is God's purpose to you? NOTHING!! Because you are such a FOOL DEVILISH PSYCHO THAT IS NEEDING AN ATTENTION. Go and dig something for yourself right behind your own backyard, PSYCHO!!!!!!
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66 : Go back to your cave man. That`s where you belong. You have no brain to judge for yourself, what is true and what is not, what is possible and what is not. And in case you are a christian, would you kindly tell me what verse in your bible gives you the right to insult people. You seem to be fanatical maniac, with the capacity to reason of a kindergarten kid.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon that is where you belong too lizazoon.....
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
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jhelynjo66 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66: Even some of Ron Wyatts close friends and collaborators deny wyatts claims. E.G. The Radarspecialist, who went with Wyatt to the site he indicated for Noah`s Ark.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon prove it!
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66 Look it up yourself. There are many websites. One very reliable christian website is answersingenesisdotorg.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon sorry not interested to check it. which christian denominations you belong?
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
@lizazoon no time to listen at you as you are not interesting...........
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 you missed the golden chariot wheel.... lol why do you have to bash this man? he has not harmed you in any way he's bringing the truth to the whole world and you still just throw it away... sad it really is
TheMandalore91 1 year ago
@TheMandalore91 "he's bringing the truth to the whole world"
So you seem to believe.
Which is precisely why I speak the truth.
Snake oil salesmen deluding the gullible
have been spreading confusion and ignorance
since the first religion was created
It is the moral duty of all who are NOT deceived
to speak the truth.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
I truly believe many artifacts are out there, But I have my droughts about Ron Wyatt, ark clam, however his other Biblical archeology seems credible.... (If he did find the Ark, I can see why the Israelis would want to guard it carefully) i.e. No photos It would be truly wonderful to have a credible photo of the Ark of the Covenant. Lets The Temple artifacts from the Solomons and the Messianic Temples are defiantly out there, lets hope they bring peace and joy at there reviling..
SCE2OXSaturn5 1 year ago
@SCE2OXSaturn5 : Check out what the Biblical Arcgaeological society thinks about all Ron Wyatts discoveries. There is no evidence for any of his findings.
lizazoon 1 year ago
if you will listen to him instead of trying to look between the lines, he said God guided him to these findings and he wasnt really even looking for most of them.He also states that all evidence will be reveiled at the end of times, cause thats when it will be the most uselfull in the salvation of our souls against the rule of the beast. so open up your ears, you say you cant believe cause there is no evidence, but, can you say you cant beilive God cause you cant see him?
Bigbruiser61 1 year ago 3
@Bigbruiser61 amen to that! god bless you as you speak truth to all with hardened hearts who are unwilling to see the way the truth and the light though our lord jesus christ!
TheMandalore91 1 year ago
@Bigbruiser61-- he said God guided him to these findings -- That`s just what`s wrong with all his findings. God does not intervene in archaeology. Ron Wyatt is a fraud.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon I doubt God calls it archaeology. God knew it was there and for reasons He alone knows, revealed it to Ron. I'm cool with God doing whatever He wants, whenever He wants, for whatever reasons He wants.
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 Fraud, Nothing but fraud. Wyatt was even caught lying about archaeology permits.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't the Jewish officials lie aabout him to keep Ark fervor from welling over into riots? Could he have lifted a shovel full of dirt in Israel without being approached for his papers?
april231953 1 year ago
@april231953 . From all his so called discoveries, not a single piece of evidence has been shown up in any museum. Not a single piece has been presented for peer inspection. NOTHING. Fraud from A to Z. That is also the opinion of christian organisations, Check it out.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Does it have to be in a museum to be real? I'm cool with God not wanting His Ark to be revealed completely until it is time. Just because churches declare something doesn't make it so. Do you think 6 million Hebrews could camp out and feed their flocks on the tiny amount of level ground where Constantine's mommy said was Mt. Sinai? It is not even where the Bible says it should be. And I'm OK with you not believing any of it. I will only cast pearls before swine a few times.
april231953 1 year ago 2
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@april231953-- I will only cast pearls before swine a few times. --- Your unchristian self-righteousnes is noticed. Why don`t you just study you "swine litterature' a bit more. You are just a petty Pharizee, knowing the letter of the law very well, but not the spirit.. Your master called them ... whitewashed graves, pure on the outside, stinking inside... Good day, little swine.
lizazoon 1 year ago
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@lizazoon <------- Godforsaken Satanic Nazi Shill. His homepage friend's list is swimming in Satanic symbolism.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
Maybe not all Ron's presumptions are real, but impossible to have digged without authorization! You cannot raise a finger as foreigner in Middle East without having Security of State on your tail.
Besides, Ron showed to journalists photos with him and the Jewish Head of Antiquities. How can that guy say he does not know Wyatt? If Wyatt is a scam why nobody brings up the truth? It seems his opponents have no real prooves.I can't believe that all he says is just a lie...
egiptulro 1 year ago
The IAA is now admitting he did have a permit. So that old accusations is no longer valid. The question one should ask is why did they want to hide that he had the permit in the first place? The last escavations have proven Ron correct so faar.. the rediscovery of the roman building structure, the cistern, the hole he made into the tunnel system etc etc.. people who is coming with the same old accusations should atleast get updated..
BeckaAire 1 year ago 14
thanks, that's light shining in the dark
IkiriRiri 1 year ago
@BeckaAire Excellent. Do we have a reference to verify this? My take had always been the IAA lied to keep peace with the muslims.
april231953 1 year ago
@BeckaAire -The fact remains-the Jewish Govt. had to seal-off and concrete the entrance to the cave because people were dropping like flies getting next to the ark......so when men decide to appreciate and call HOLY Gods laws and to Obey them...maybe he wont fall from false doctrine and pridefull religious bigotry.....The mark of the Beast must come before the ARK is revealed to mankind...the mark is to DENY the Saviuor and His Precious Blood to accept mans satanic laws**DONT TAKE THE MARK!!!!!
1962mikie 6 months ago
ke6gwf
one logic question: if Ron had no permit to dig how did he do it? Jerusalem is not an empty place, you cannot throw one needle without being noticed...and asked about , etc
Truth is somewhere in the middle of all these
egiptulro 1 year ago
Too bad he hasn't produced a single piece of evidence that can be confirmed by others on pretty much any of his claims.
I believed him until I really started looking at the "evidence" and the different stories he tells at different times. They still keep promising to release new evidence from discoveries from 15 years ago, but it will be on the "next video" which will cost $49.95... (in 2008 per the IRS, they brought in ~$104,000, ~$56,000 of it went to payroll and benefits, mostly to 1 man)
ke6gwf 1 year ago
Actually when it comes to his claims there is quite substantial evidence to support it. For instance look into those who helped with the analysis of his findings. Names etc. At least those do come back as hard evidence. Sure there are those who may take advantage of his findings for profit. But that does not mean the findings are false.
ar550n1c 1 year ago
Names...
Galbraith Laboratories: Only tested for 3 things, yet claimed to have proved it's Petrified Wood. Offers by Baumgardner and others to have fully tested turned down. No sign of woodgrain. (look at pictures of petrified trees, they have rings and the cell structure showing)
Baumgardner; (he's a creation scientist by the way) Went back with a team including several others Wyatt had worked with, did Radar, Seismic, Magnetometer, and Core samples, and couldn't replicate Wyatt's results.
ke6gwf 1 year ago
On the Ark OTC, he has not produced any evidence at all. He claims he had a lab test it, but has refused to name the lab or show the lab test results, he doesn't have any pictures and when he accepted $10's of thousands to allow a group of christian TV ministries to film the cave after they got there he said he had changed his mind and they couldn't film it but they couldn't have their money back either. One of them pushed past him and went down the shaft and found a small empty room at the end
ke6gwf 1 year ago
That's interesting. I'd like to see the evidence of what you say. It might be a sham... Not cool.
s3v3rdl0ck 1 year ago
Be more specific on which item you want to see the evidence on, and I might be able to fit it in here!
Although I may be able to provide evidence, what I recommend is to look at what he claims is evidence, and see if it is enough to convince.
He provides enough evidence for somebody that wants to believe, to be able to believe. I know, because he had me going for quite a while! Then I started noticing things just not adding up, and it all fell apart. (I wish I could include links in comments..)
ke6gwf 1 year ago
It is Ron and his wife that have been taking advantage of his finding for profit, and granted that alone doesn't prove them false, but combined with the lack of proof, it points that direction!
Joe Zias, the head of Israel Antiquities claims to have never Wyatt a permit to dig (and Wyatt has refused to show the one he claims to have) Zias has also said publicly that Wyatt is free to produce any evidence he wants to, despite Ron's claims that Zias told him he couldn't release any evidence. Etc..
ke6gwf 1 year ago
No need to provide links, I'll research the names & such. Cheers.
s3v3rdl0ck 1 year ago
That is the most refreshing comment I have seen on Youtube in ages! :) An open mind... wow... heh heh
Anyway, if you do run into something that you can't find satisfactory answers for, I do have some stuff that isn't available online that helped clear up some things for me.
(it is research that some people that are personally know to me (in the real world!) did into Wyatt's claims.)
(P.S. Jon. Gray was the one who got Wyatt popular, I would look closely at him also)
ke6gwf 1 year ago
A lot dispute his findings due to no proof of permit for digging. Israel say in a statement that the permit was never granted. Its being purposefully hidden. Do some research about the permit and you will see what I am talking about. I think that it is possible that his findings are real. At least will never rule it out unless proven false.
ar550n1c 1 year ago 2
The issue with the permit is he claims he was issued one, Israel claims he never would have been given one because he doesn't have the required degrees, and he claims he has the permit in his possession. BUT he has refused for years to show it to anybody. He claims to have the hard evidence for many of his claims, but has always (and his wife has continued the trend) refused to produce this evidence.
He has lead his followers on for 30 something? years now, and they still wait for hard proof...
ke6gwf 1 year ago
@ke6gwf
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
jhelynjo66 1 year ago 26
@jhelynjo66 and Jesus himself was a carpenter
malicho69 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66 "God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality."
In fact, without the credulous and uneducated
god could not exist!
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66 God exalts the low!
spacebunny3000 1 year ago
@jhelynjo66 god is an imginary creature
warmdickweed 1 year ago
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@ke6gwf
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
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@ke6gwf
For your information, God never look to people's degree, knowledge or being smart. King David was just a Shepperd boy before he became a King. Saul was just an ordinary man before anointed by God to be the King. Two of Jesus Christ Apostle were just a fisherman when our Lord Jesus called them for a mission.
Our God is not looking at our degree. He is looking to our heart. God love even the uneducated people because their heart and mind is open for reality.
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
See how God uses the simple things of this world, even the simple men. This was done by asking God and walking in faith.
aeroflying 1 year ago
Wonderful video, absolutely truthful. Of course the media in general (and other interests) would stash this all away as a hoax.
Im surprised he wasnt murdered on the spot. By God's protection alone he survived.
inqisit0r 1 year ago
Absolutely Wonderful!! Thank you so much for posting this! Wish I could talk to him but have to wait. God bless;)
hdiylove 1 year ago
ron wyatt is strenghtening the faith of many people. he is a hero!!!!!!!!!!!
whether he is lying or not he is doing the good work!!
ericdisney1 2 years ago
"whether he is lying or not.?" I wouldn't make a hero of someone who lies. I have studied body language and still do, Ron Wyatt's body language does not indicate that he is lying. Plus his discoveries Noah's Ark, Red Sea crossing and the Cities of Sodom and Gomorra can and have been confirmed. There are some questions unanswered surrounding him, but the evidence of his discoveries are there. Just one of his discoveries could make a career.
DanieljDixon 1 year ago
He didn't discover the Noah's Ark site, it has had many teams research it before and after him, and none have found any evidence to corroborate his claims.
The facts do not shine kindly on the Red Sea crossing. Including the biblical account, the depth of the water, the fact that the depth he claimed to find the chariot wheels is deeper than you can safely scuba dive without special equipment, and I can go on... Shiny gold wheels after 200 miles of rough rocky desert sand roads?? Come on! Think!
ke6gwf 1 year ago
Gold never loses its luster. Apparently you don't know much about chemistry.
dougmoerhoffman 1 year ago
Apparently you don't know much about physical properties of gold.
I wasn't talking about the luster after 4000 years underwater, I was talking about the physical abuse on gold covered chariot wheels traveling hundreds of miles through the deserts and mountains at high speed.
Gold is a very soft metal, about as hard as your fingernail. It would be scratched, scarred and gouged badly, unlike the perfectly smooth and shiny pictures Wyatt shows. Look at Whitewall tireas on a gravel road sometime!
ke6gwf 1 year ago
"Though shall not lie"
If he is lying, he is leading people astray, which is leading them right into the devil's trap.
"Lying" and "good work" are not compatible.
I do not claim he lies, but the things he claims are not truth even if he believes them.
Once something that can be verified as authentic proof by independent sources is presented, I will re-visit the subject, but since he lays out big stories but has yet to present proof for any of them, I have had to reach this conclusion.
ke6gwf 1 year ago
Hey Youtube. I went to the Wyatt Museum in Cornersville, Tenn. USA. I uploaded my first video with some footage of it. Just check out my channel to see it. I highly suggest to go there!
InfallibleProof 2 years ago
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accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
did any body hear about this scientists finding about jesus' blood having 23 chromosomes
foutor 2 years ago
Ron claims to have had it tested and it was found to still be alive and have 24 chromosomes (despite the Bible saying Jesus was like us in every way "body and blood"), but he has (as is normal with his discoveries) NEVER shown evidence of it, told which laboratory did the testing or allowed anybody else to see it or test it.
I believe we should be careful not to follow "every wind of doctrine" that comes by, unless we can prove it from the Bible, and test it for ourselves.
ke6gwf 1 year ago
@ke6gwf
why don't you go and try to do it yourself. do you think he can just go to Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and doooooooooooo all of these things without the permission of the local government of each country he visited.
if you can get a permission or a notice from the government of those countries, then maybe you can hire me to take your photo. only to take your photo but not to believe in your talk as I believe in God and all his miracles.
jhelynjo66 1 year ago
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."
- Richard Dawkins
"" the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence ""
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
I do not spam. I am simply being subjected to the same questions repeatedly over and over and even if I answer to the best of my abilities, it would be very similar to the first time I answered this question in the first place, so I may just as well copy and paste to save time. It is different when debating intellectuals that listen, learn and interact. No historical records nor fact can convince a believer. That is what "blind faith" means.
Have faith, don't listen to reason. It's your call.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
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GreenCures 2 years ago
So, rather than try to help people with finding the 'light of God', you seem to rather be happy to let them (myself included) suffer the "eternal flames of torment". Would you not go to Hell too for not caring about the rest of us?
papertowel17 2 years ago
@papertowel17
No, I don't want anybody to go there ---I was wrong about Wyatt. I don't think he was honest about his activities, evidence he was a fraud....no, not happy ANY should suffer that. His light can be found in His Word. Romans & John good places to start.
Sometimes I come across as too harsh. Apologies
GreenCures 2 years ago
bmart744:
Why is it that all of the historians you list were born decades after Jesus' death? If I were trying to provide evidence for the existence of Julius Caesar, for example, I would provide the writing of people who were alive when he was, not people who were born decades after he died and heard about him from others. Why have you provided no evidence from historians who were writing during Jesus' life time?
MrSkepticator 2 years ago
ever hear of john, peter, paul, matthew just to name a few?
harryparatestes7 2 years ago
Look up these historians- all made references to Jesus: Cornelius Tacitus (56-120 AD) ,Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus (AD 61-113), Hadrian, Imperator Caesar Trainus, (AD 76-136), Emperor Trajan (AD 53 - 117), Lucian of Samosata lived A.D. 120-180, Phlegon, born about A.D. 80, Flavius Josephus (AD 37-100), theres more if you want. I want to thank you though. People like you actually made me do my research and its only strentghened my faith.
bmart744 2 years ago
@bmart744 Josephus have been proved a fraud for hundreds of years, but he and some 1st century Romans are the only ones mentioning Jesus (outside the Bible) and that was decades or centuries later. Philo of Alexandria (20 BC - 50 AD) who actually lived in Jerusalem during the era of Christ's supposed birth and death, wrote a reputable history of the Jews in his time but makes not a single reference to Jesus in any way. This is striking evidence of Jesus Christ's conjured mythological nature.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
Also do your research on the other religions that christianity supposedly copied their beliefs from. Its so stupid. One ancient religion said they had a god that was born of a virgin. Did the research on that. He was born from a rock. (bad comparison) I did the research on a lot of these old religions and didn't find one credible one. Many of them switched their beliefs after Christianity had been around for a couple hundred years and mimiced the Christian beliefs
bmart744 2 years ago
@bmart744 Wikipedia and Google won't make an expert of anyone. Read some research and books by real scholars, historians and theology professors. For example D.M. Murdock who also speak many different languages and is classically educated in archaeology, history, mythology and religion. Information you find in English is often different from what can be found in Greek or Latin. It also depends on when it was written. That also proves my point. History have a way of corrupting itself.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
We could sit here and argue forever on our beliefs, but the main reason why I believe what I do is not just b/c of the Bible. I can't begin to explain to you the experiences that i've had in my life that have confirmed my beliefs. In that last 5 years my life has completely changed. In a world of uncertainty with terrorism and world disasters, famine, gangs, wars, etc. I have so much peace knowing that there is something better. We are here today and gone tomorrow. I can truthfully say
bmart744 2 years ago
that I don't fear death. The world is gonna keep getting worse off. People, more than ever today, are searching for something beyond themselves. Many people are getting into the New Age movements and the occult. The vast majority of people in the world believe in a higher power. If you can believe in a higher power, than why is it so hard to believe that a god could want us to know him through a book.
bmart744 2 years ago
Im sure you know who Voltaire is. He tried to eradicate the Bible and was quoted as saying that within 100 years of his death Christianity would be dead: On his death bed he was quoted as saying "I am abandoned by God and man I shall go to hell." He also said "I have swallowed nothing but smoke I have intoxicated myself with the incense that turned my head
bmart744 2 years ago
@bmart744 Books:
The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold
Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ: DM Murdock - a scientific analysis of the data regarding Jesus.
"Despite the false claims, ZEITGEIST has not been refuted. My book Christ in Egypt will demonstrate through primary and highly credentialed sources that all of the Horus-Jesus connections in ZEITGEIST are factual." -D.M. Murdock
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
I understand that we both have bias toward our beliefs, but if you really want to do true research (that means having an open mind), then either get the book 'The Case for the Real Jesus' or get the cd series. I got the CD series and it has over 10 hours of info. by Lee Strobel (use to be a confirmed atheist). He gives a laundry list of people for and against Christianity. He gives all the possible arguments against Christianity and interviews people to get the answers.
bmart744 2 years ago
@bmart744 Now hypothetically speaking. Even if Jesus existed as a prophet, he was far from original. There where lots of messiahs and prophets in those times. For example Apollonius of Tyana who in the 1st century was claimed by his followers that he healed the sick, raised the dead, he was able to walk threw walls and he was persecuted for his religious belief and brought to trial by the local Roman courts and was crucified. Then he ascended to heaven and later was resurrected.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
Do you realize that the Bible has influenced society and History more than any other book and it is the most banned book in history. Is it weird to you that so many people have tried to eradicate the Bible. If the Bible is a load of crap than why you so scared of it. You must spend so much time trying to disprove it.
bmart744 2 years ago
Imagaine spending 3 years of your life with someone almost everyday learning from them and then spending the rest of your life teaching what he taught. You don't think it would be possible to write what you teach everyday down after 40+ years. It wasn't just one person having one conversation with Jesus, never thinking about the conversation again for 60 years, and then deciding to write the info down. Bad comparison. There were many people that spent they're lives preaching Jesus' words.
bmart744 2 years ago
Your NT comment is wrong. The NT writers either knew Jesus personally or knew people that knew Jesus personally.
bmart744 2 years ago
@bmart744 No, none of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses, the earliest dating 65 C.E. and most are thought to be significantly later, and the earliest New Testament texts were purportedly authored by early church founder Paul of Tarsus, who was not an eyewitness. It may be a stretch to describe stories of events written 40 years after they supposedly occurred as "eyewitness accounts", when the average lifespan of a human in those times was likely much lower.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
@bmart744 Claiming the NT and the Gospels to be accurate or even credible, is like reading back this conversation 60 years from now by memory, and by a third party who was not a witness to the conversation in the first place.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
you must not have read my comment on this one already- after spending 3 years with Jesus- the apostles spent the rest of their lives preaching the gospel (good news). If I spent the rest of my life preaching to people about the conversation that we are having, I think I will be able to write about it 30-40 years from now. I dont think that would be too hard. The Bible also says that Paul spent time with some of the apostles.
bmart744 2 years ago
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
"Religion is fairly arbitrary and have much to do with where you where born, and what era you where born in."
- Acharya S
"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."
- Albert Einstein
"Any creative intelligence of sufficient complexity to design anything comes into existence only as the end product of gradual evolution."
- Richard Dawkins
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
Truth is, none of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses, the earliest dating 65 C.E. and most are thought to be significantly later. Philo (20 BC - 50 AD) who lived in Jerusalem during the era of Christ, wrote a reputable history of the Jews in his time but makes not a single reference to Jesus in any way. There are numerous non-biblical historians from this time, not none of them documented this figure. This is striking evidence of Jesus Christ's conjured mythological nature.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago
Who was Josephus again?
DouglasFresh8181 2 years ago
A Roman Jewish historian and a proved a fraud for hundreds of years. He and some 1st century Romans are the only ones mentioning Jesus (outside the Bible) and that was decades or centuries later. That proves what? None of the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses.
accersitusmaximus 2 years ago