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  • You are a tool Did your unit weigh in at 7500 LBS?

    Size does matter & adherence to plans is paramount. It is apparent you left out some key components yet have the gall to form grievances.

    Sad

  • i love that you put in the hours to learn what you did and to perform actual physical experiments. i'm also impressed with your explanation of your results, which i see as rational, straightforward and lacking double talk or ducking. hard to believe someone commented that you were complaining - that person and i are not seeing the same thing. anyway, kudos to you - i wish there were more like you. -frank-

  • I'm a senior engineer. I've looked into these sort of claims over the years. You even find this sort of info in industry. The guy in the video makes fully rational points. I believe that people like Joe Newman have a deep psychological need to believe they are technical visionaries. He dances around the issues and misuses terminology. The trouble is that people are easily mesmerized by his sort of salesmanship. My view is that he poses interesting ideas but has no sound technology.

  • @DaveCurious1

    Amen to that. Sounds pretty much like my own conclusions.

  • @kdaveem Two problems with your comments. Check out the MACHINE, not the Man. Mr. Newman seems quite mad by now, and makes many odd statements. However, I find that there seems to be something to his theory if not the actual machine. ALSO: The batteries that WWL TV engineers tested were SUPPLIED by the engineers and were said to be SLIGHTLY USED not "nearly dead" like you say can be heated and get more use. Other than that I do like thoughtful skeptics. Good commentary but very blurry bad video.

  • @RGRundeRGRound I still have an open mind about the possibility of producing free energy though some new discovery, but I was just expressing some of my skepticism about Newman, but yes some of his early test results are still thought provoking. Best wishes on your quest for free energy.

  • About time someone did try to repeat the Newman scam. No rational folks are suprised to find it doesn't work. The Laws of Physics rock!

  • This guy is just not smart as Joe

  • @nas4x

    Think your missing an "as" smart guy lol

  • huh 40 scientist and engineers back Joe so I dunno why he lie about it.

  • There are many who did make thee Newman motor and they are able to recharge dead batteries while turning the motor. I've seen none who have built a very large unit to confirm or dispute Newman's claims.

     However, it seems that you have built small units that do recharge batteries, right?

    Similar to Bedini, these motors do recharge the source batteries while turning a shaft. And depending on the size of the unit, this will output a certain amount of torque, which costs money and time to make

  • @brentbps1 No I was never about to charge my batteries up as Joe claimed. I did make a much smaller unit but nevertheless I later noticed Joe was doing his public demonstrations in a way that lacked scientific credibility.

  • @kdaveem I don't understand your frustration. If you didn't strictly follow Newman's invention duplication, and have no interest in developing a replication, then why have you decided to complain publicly? The fact that Newman is not a salesman is well recognized, but this has nothing to do with whether his invention works or not. It seems you have begun a character assasination against as man who has freely given his plans away to anyone who wishes to develop it, no?

  • @brentbps1 You had better spend a couple hours researching Joe Newman. IAt one point I encouraged a couple friends to engage in a business deal with Joe and they came to the same conclusion I did. One of my friends gave Joe $4,000 dollars with the agreement he would get an energy machine. After four years of excuses he finally threatened Joe with Legal action and got his money back. Please Google Joe and see what you come up with. There are lots of stories to confirm what I'm saying.

  • @kdaveem ouch, 4 grand huh? It seems Bedini, who has created a similar unit, is a more reputable businessman.

  • @kdaveem But I was talking more about the creation of the unit itself, and whether it works or not. I really didn't mean to talk about his business dealings. Although it seems that Bedini has a better business reputation, though the motors of these two fellows are similar.

  • I am building one of these motors. And there are pleny of motors that can go into the hundreds of percents of overuinty, for example the Muller Generator. I know people who build them all the time, including Doug Konzen. I've had the experience of never getting more out than in and was dismayed about it. But I never gave up, and I don't think you should limit yourself as much as you have. Just think about it. Mechanical energy is always free for starters. It's to be a skeptic though, I want that

  • @debunkified I like to keep an open mind that someday someone may discover some new principle but seeing how Joe has been less than honest with the public he lost credibility. Good luck on your future experiments. If nothing else you will lean more about the laws of physics.

  • @debunkified Yes, Joseph Newman's technology does work -- and it has been independently verified by others, such as Naudin in France. His book, THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN, contains a precise mechanical explanation of magnetic attraction/repulsion, explains Fleming's Rule (the right hand rule) and explains why there is a weak sideways attraction force when two bar magnets with identical poles are physically brought together. Plus much more... he is the pioneer of this technology.

  • I think Joe Newman is right. I have been finding more and more lately that this lines up directly with what Tom Bearden has said, IMPEDANCE attracts more NEGATIVE ENERGY, and blocks POSITIVE ENERGY. Mass is = to energy, all you have to do is activate the free electrons already inside of the copper that sits there so freely, duh, dude, you failed miserably. It's a giant leap from a wimpy Bedini Motor, in fact him and Tom Bearden got that idea from Joe himself! The mechanical energy is free also.

  • I've been trying to tell people this very exact same thing you're saying here. They refuse to listen. [sigh]

  • look at J.L Naudins website and his newman motor tests

  • Newman is a crackpot who thinks talking nonsense will indeed pull the wool over the public's eyes..

    OHM's law has been perverted into senseless drivel by Mr. Newman.

    There are better avenues one can take in the quest for zero point..

    Good day :)

  • @TunedCavityLasers You are not correct. Bedini, Searle, Newman, and numerous others have proven this high frequency power source. It is different from the classes taught at colleges and so is not fully understood by those who have not practiced this development. It is, nevertheless, a very real power, and it does work. Check out Methernitha and Testatika, which is a working unit that powers a whole town in Europe.

  • Joe Newman's invention DOES INDEED WORK!!! Perhaps you did not follow the instructions correctly. Others have done so successfully. Mr. Newman discovered the method of harnessing the kinetic energy in mass and converting it into energy on a 100% conversion process. He is brilliantly blessed by GOD with a genius brain. As far as his theory and his energy machine are concerned THEY WORK AS HE SAYS THEY DO; the prophetic stuff, I cannot attest to. WHAT is at the root of your being so negative???

  • you aren't proving that it doesn't work, rather you are just showing that you are a dumb ass

  • Free energy does not exist, energy always comes from somewhere, because it's a LAW of thermodynamics. The reason why folks think this works is because they don't understand physics. You can get energy out of something, but it will cost you energy. Or as they say in Poker: 1st law: You cant win. 2nd law: You cant break even. 3rd law: You cant get out of the game.

  • @PhonePhr33k I like to keep an open mind but when it comes to free energy from magnets and coils I'm inclined to think your correct.

  • @PhonePhr33k A very narrow thinking. Free energy: solar panels, energy comes from the sun. Everything is energy! We are surrounded by energy. Life energy flows constantly throug your body. Read Tesla s inventions!

  • You can still achieve great torques, which is free mechanical energy, while simultaneoulsy capturing the back spike, which simply needs to be turned around in the correct charging fashion. Caps help in keeping it from loading down back to the source. This all originated from Tesla himself. Tesla never claimed a free energy device either. Not one time did he mention free energy in any of his patents. The energy already surrounds us. And are your working models at?

  • @debunkified My experience was that you never get more out than in. If you think I'm wrong why aren't you building one of these motors? If what you said is true you could change the world and free us from the need for oil.

  • Thanks for sharing your experience...

    Btw, how did you confirm his motor is a fail?

    Could you post the motor which you had built? And, kindly show me how did you measure out the energy...

    Thanks again!!

  • If you go to my channel and look at some of my other videos, I think they will answer your question.

  • Wow, thanks for the fast reply!!

    Yup, I searched in your channel....

    But, I found none of them showing your motor...

    Could you provide me the link?

    Thanks again dude!!

  • kdaveem

    simple , go to see how ray0energy did it, he has instruction

    Do not send wrong message because you can't do it, just copy others

    Who are you work for? so many spy work for interest group here on you Utube.

    Its an insult to human intelligiance can not produce energy because 400 years old law means to be borken, because we have brain.

  • I think its Joe who is sending the wrong message. I'm simply telling my experience and attempting to warn others about my results.

  • You are spread wrong message here, simply search ray0energy see his motor,

    many times over tiny input energy

    The mexican guy mixed motor product 14 times overunity, many more mototors did the same but does not claimed OU, simply just avoid neysayers.

    i can build one as long as you are willing to pay for it,

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  • Hi Fdoca,

    I want to buy one from you. How.

  • the problem with all these inventions is that nobody will release the real data due to the lack of a PATENT plain and simple .. when the US Patent Office has standing orders to not grant patents to such inventions what do u expect ?

  • but what was going on with your ELECTRONICS? yes he WAS hiding data, its in the electronics, that the EM field PULSES, collapsing and re-opening. Have you checked out the research papers by T.E. Bearden? The laws of EM are way overdue for being updated. After Einstein said E=mc squared, the law of conservation of energy should have become the law of conservation of MASS and energy. but anyways, the effect to Joe's motor has a lot to do with the circuit.

  • very good video!

  • I like you was very excited about this when i first heard about it, but the more research i do the more i agree with you that something just is not quite right.

    As for the recharging batteries that is really nothing special, it is possible to recharge normal non-rechargable batteries, in fact if i remember correct the best way to get the most life out of them was to top them regularly rather than let them drain completely. I can try to find the article if you like.

    Interesting Vid.

  • if newman can make one of these work,which I doubt, because nobody else can, then why dosent he connect the output to the input when its running and it should run itself and produce some more usable energy. he could do this and prove overunity to everyone but newman is a fraud so he NEVER does

  • I agree, but its amazing he is still able to sell his lies after all these years.

  • Visit IsmaelCar YTB more credible motor

  • After I looked at the Bedini experimenters on youtube, it didn't look as though anyone had been able to duplicate his claims. Some said they had, but their videos were so vague. Most rechargeable batteries have their storage capacity on printed on them. Its important to know this so you can really calculate the end results of your experiment. I noticed many of the experimenters don't have a good understanding on the difference between power, volts, watts and amps. It took me a while to grasp

  • I have worked on a Bedini SSG, never took the effort with Newman as it looked too involved, but I have been able to obtain a 12:1::out:in with his motor. I used very powerful batteries that I COMPLETELY drained (charging side) and in very little time they were charged to 45W from near 0 with only 3W used. Bedini's voltage spike is completely COLD output and will not warm the battery. Bedini's SSG WORKS! Be forewarned the tuning is very tricky and you may wanna buy a number of transistors too.

  • I am a little curious about Bedini, but batteries are charged in amp hours or milliamp hours rather than watts, Perhaps you can describe this in a manner I can better understand what you have accomplished.

  • Lacking the equipment to determine the mAH of a battery I simply used the end results of both charging and power batteries in volts and amps for the wattage, I may be wrong in that, but it did charge the batteries to a full charge with very little change in the power batteries. I really suggest working on a Bedini device, but like I said it took me a number of burnt out transistors before I got it almost right, but then burnt that one out...the testing has been on hold for about the past year.

  • Joe Newman clearly has some mental issues. If you watch the movie a device to die for, you will see him grabbing the shaft and all of that. You know after forty YEARS of this stuff that he HAS to know that grabbing it doesnt prove anything. You need to look at bedinis monopole motors etc. his WORK. Mine works and it has for two years! Take care and thanks!

  • "You need to look at bedinis monopole motors etc. his WORK."

    No you don't.

  • Increasing turns for a GIVEN coil mass is only good for using small capacity batteries in series with higher voltage. However by increasing turns AND coil MASS simultaneously, you MAY be improving the magnetic coupling between the rotor and the rotor, but you will be LESS impressed by the power output. You can reduce turns and increase coil mass, and that will help you until your system has:

    1) High eddy current and hysteresis drag.

    Low resistivity materials with no torque function waste NRG!

  • "However by increasing turns AND coil MASS simultaneously, you MAY be improving the magnetic coupling between the rotor and the rotor, but you will be LESS impressed by the power output."

    The exception is where you're coil is far too small for the magnets that you have. But coils are usually cheaper that magnets, so this condition is rather rare. Yet, this is the condition of my present setup, which I will need to fix with a bigger coil that I "hope" to prepare by the end of tomorrow.

  • so what was the voltage?

  • One has to step up to the math.

    academia.wikiaDOTcom/wiki/Mech­anical_Electric_Theory

    (last updated October 24, 2008)

    Understand this theory. Newman had to come up with his theory and then build his motor to get people's attention. We should rely on the same principle. Since November last year I have been trying to understand conventional theory since it already explains a lot of things. But I can now show that there are other ways of using it that will allow to see a better picture of motors.

  • I used various voltages on my motors, depending on how big the coils were, what gauge wire I used. On my 50 pound coil with 12 gauge wire I was able to operate it fine on a 12 volt battery, but on my 30 pound coil with 30 gauge wire, I put a load of nine volt batteries in series to operate it,m and it was around 250 volts

  • hmm interesting...it would of been great to see a video of your replication attemped....it would back up your claims and could of been more valid then your newman videos that you have posted on your channel. but what does it matter ......there will always be belivers and non belivers...oh well

  • That would have been nice, but in time I believe every serious experimentor will discover the same limitations I did.

  • "I used various voltages on my motors, depending on how big the coils were, what gauge wire I used."

    Adjusting the turns density and wire diameter for a given coil mass is only good for adapting the coil to:

    1) The voltage and capacity of your battery pack - not the other way around. (Thinner wire more voltage and less charge capacity)

    2) The rotor you are driving. (Better configuration means less drag and more torque)

    The only way to increase efficiency is to increase area/turn*rpm*strength.

  • "The only way to increase efficiency is to increase area/turn*rpm*strength."

    Assuming the configuration of the motor and coil is A+ and that the power supply is appropriate for the coil being driven, the only other way to improve the efficiency is to scale up the area of each turn. Conventional motors do not put their rotors within the coil, but they treat the interior of the coil as uninhabitable that a bar magnet i.e. they do not fill it in. Thus the area of their coils is limited by design.

  • how can you compare months of your work to 40 + years of his?

  • I have spent hundreds of dollars. Now I have built a 19.5" fan you can see on my videos. I know I have much more potential for efficiency in my motor (inspired by Newman). There are plenty of valid criticisms for my set up and design (although many people have liked the incorporation of ribbon cable!) I do not see a ceiling for the efficiency yet. I continue to try to improve the fan, commutator, and the setup of the magnets, and it takes me a lot of time. But at least it works during outages!

  • Joe's results are not what I am interested in. Attempts at "charging effects" have shown to be a pain not only in Newman systems but as well as in Bedini systems. The battery charging effect is insignificant quantitative as well as qualitatively. Much more interesting to me is learning the basic science that is already understood in conventional theory.

  • Also, YouTube as a communication medium is not very effective in terms of proving electrical output. Every single attempt involving some rectifier+capacitor output I have seen with Bedini or Newman systems has been doomed to insignificance+failure. Mechanical output is the only way to communicate real results of electricity. Measuring input/output via meters is never going to be satisfying to electrical engineers who really understand their limitations.

  • 'Joe's results are not what I am interested in.'

    But "Joe" is a liar, a crook, a thief, a con-man. His lies have caused a large number of people to squander their money and time for nothing.

  • P.P.S. One must calculate more than the product of volts and watts: heat must also be included in the output figure, and also mechanical power. Everything must then be reduced to a common unit of measure: Joules (one Newton over one meter). Newton and his cult followers refuse to make the correct calculations.

  • "P.P.S. One must calculate more than the product of volts and watts"

    One does not have to calculate the product of volts and watts.

    "Everything must then be reduced to a common unit of measure"

    This is false.

    "Newton and his cult followers refuse to make the correct calculations."

    This video is not about Newton.

    Check your writing next time. It took me no more than a few minutes to find three extra-grammatical miscalculations.

  • kmarinas86,

    Thanks for all the comments you keep sending, but unless your able to simplify what you mean in a language that undereducated people like myself can follow, I will not be able to understand you.

  • P.S. Ohm's Law disproves the Newman claims.

  • "I spent hundreds of dollars trying to reproduce Joes claims with no luck"

    If you had watched Desertphile's videos on the subject you could have saved yourself that money and effort.

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