Man ... I have an atmospheric science final in 3 hours that I've barely studied for but I'm so obsessed with this couple that I've been watching videos instead of studying. They're just so adorable!!
Look at the look on Nat's face after the hug. She was looking like she wanted more of that. Thens he reached out to Liv like she wanted to stay connected. And she was like "Gus?" I'm glad YOU were here today!"
Im sooo steamed right now!! I can't believe they are going to through away this storyline between Olivia and Natalia!! we never get what we want, aways only hetero relationships...
Rafe needs a male presence in his life. He's never really had one when he was growing up and he's been ok. I think this is when it hits Frank that Olivia really does love Natalia. The things he has seen her do for her and that hug.
I think Rafe is gonna act like a big old brat and he realy has no reason to because of all that he put his mom through. He needs to shut up and grow up he is over 18 and his mom should be able to be happy without his approval.
Would Nat discard her feelings for Olivia in favor of bratty Rafe? I hope not. Rafe is no longer a minor, so he must move out and give her mom a break for once.
ohmygosh, the previews for tomorrow! idk if his behavior is understandable or not, but he's kind of acting like an immature spoiled brat. someone needs to put him in his place.
bette and pregnant tina was pretty hot on l word! Aww poor jellybean tmrw. Otalia was so sweet today. Natalia looked like she didn't want to let liv go after their 'friend' hug. today was great. and frank did a good thing today. we should be happy about that. it made nat happy.
KISS,KISS, KISS, KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS, IF Jennifer Beals as Bette on THE L WORD Could kiss pregant TIna and make love to her and it all look sexy, then they can kiss being preggers or not!!LOL KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS
I absolutely LOVE how after Frank leaves, around 2.00, Natalia automatically looks at Olivia and is all smiley and giddy with what had just happened... She's so in love that her happiness is only real when shared with Olivia...
The little things are just perfect and so beautiful. I'm pretty sure I can survive with only these little presents for another month!lol
Its been weeks since they both said Ilove you to each other and still not one single kiss no intimacy of any kind .If this was real life they would have so experimented by now. I am gonna give up watching if nothing happens soon what are the writers playing at come on guys let them kiss already you have dragged this out long enough give us viewers what we want please please please. Both women are gorgeous.
What I dislike the most about this fabricated triangle between Otalia and NumbNuts is the fact that the writers are constantly putting him in a position of power over Natalia (and hence Olivia), but "being the nice guy" or "doing the right thing to ensure the proper path is taken". Will Natalia be beholden to this idiot forever? He gave me the creeps again today, even though he said what he did at the end. And Rafe . . . he's gonna be trouble for our girls.
When Liv said she's glad Gus's heart was there, I think it was great that Nat said I'm glad YOU were here. Frank doesn't bother me nor any other angst because it just feels like nothing is going to get in their way in the end. Their love will endure whatever is thrown their way and that is a part of what is making them a super couple.
I believe she only called Nat "friend" there because they were surrounded by people, including Rafe&Frank, but they still wanted to express themselves physically and show their happiness through a physical manifestation (and they wanted BAD!). By calling her friend, Olivia was just saying that it would be normal for regular friends to hug in a situation like that...
And how awesome is it that Frank is the best man Natalia knows, but she's definitely more into the BEST woman! 8)
So let me see, we have to tell the entire world about the relationship before we kiss?? What's up with that??? Oh, wait, they haven't kissed....so technically....THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP!!!!
I thought from the prior episode thats why she went to see Jeffrey, Frankenfish really needs to be out of the storyline. We cant have two problems in the girls way Rafe and still Frankenfish..
Honestly, I'm getting a little fed up of them throwing Frank in the middle of this damn story line. My only solaces and comfort comes in the fact that they will be giving Frank a love interest. I just hope it's sooner rather than later. I'm also hoping that Rafe can move on from his past with Olivia and start to acknowledge the fact that she is trying to help him out. I also feel a "thank you" to Olivia is in order for at least trying to make his first night home memorable.
I can't agree more... why bring Frank the loser back in the story line to muck things up... I can't stand him..and what's with Olivia's line " You must love her a lot" That was kind of pathetic.. you can see she's becoming a bit insecure. Nat needs to "pony up the goods" namely to plant one great big passionate kiss on Olivia's lips sooner rather than later!
Okay....I am really getting fed up. It's been a month now since the confessions of love and still no Kiss???!!!! C'mmmoooonnnn!!!! This is getting ridiculous. AS much as I love the angst; any other couple this invested in each other would have at least kissed by now. I respect that Natalia wants to take it slow; that is the best, but a sweet kiss is natural and normal between 2 people that are into each other like Olivia and Natalia.
I totally agree with you on this, you'd think they'd experiment with the intimacy a little more before comng out to their family and friends just to make sure they are totally into each other but it doesn't look like its going to happen that way, unless something happens in the next few episodes....say at work in that office with the BIG bed! ;-)
I need to slap Rafe....that's all I'm sayin'....He didn't thank Olivia and then invites Frank??!!!! Ughhhh, seriously kid!!! and that whole judge 'male mentoring' thing sounded uttertly ridiculous to me. One thing is guidance, another thing is 'male' guidance, not to mention he is not a minor anymore, but a grown man!
other than that, I loved Nat's resolve today (her speech to the judge, her reassurance to liv...and those previews...yaowzzaaa).
what is frank the plank going to be mentoring rafe on, how to be a stalker, argh i really cant stand 2 watch him anymore, and as for rafe, seriously who wouldnt want a party if they had just been released from prison, and a thankyou to liv would have been nice, tsk tsk
Thanks yoda for uploading this! :D How could Rafe be insensitive, immature and ungrateful to Olivia, dismissing the fact that she's always there to help them out as ever? This brat can't be under his mom's skirt always.
Re: the judge and the male mentor thing. I think GL is just showing how prejudical society still is in regards to "nuclear family" is best, blah blah. I think it's (unfortunately) realistic that the judge would take this stance. Poor Liv. She can't help, cause she doesn't have a penis, so she doesn't count! Just another example of how non-blood related same sex partners can be made to feel like they aren't a "real" member of the family. Again, I think GL is trying to show some of the obstacles.
I Am Glad To See Rafe Is Going Home But He's Changed A Lot... He said Why He Was There In Jail He Got Into The Whole Religion Thing?? So thats Mean Hes Going To Be Just Like The Pastor I Bet Ya!! ~Krissy~
Ps- Liv and nat Are Looking Extra Hott Today.. I Can't Wait For tomorrow..lol
Rafe is a pain in the a** and a spoilt brat. I mean he could have been a little more thankful to Olivia for the dinner party she arranged. I mean he could have asked her to come and then inviting Frank to dinner at the FOL after his mom ran AWAY from Frank at the alter... the little tantrum in tomorrows episode is priceless!
Rafe was in Juvenile Detention before the age of 18, has been in Jail going into manhood, then (naturally) a few months in a half way house. I honestly believe that the judge is looking for alternatives to help guide him into manhood. Unfortunately he thinks that it needs to be a MALE mentor. Although its prejudicial, at least he is doing better than our real system and letting the monsters walk the streets without rehabilitation and keep the petty criminals behind bars. Sorry to delve so deep.
I don't know much of Rafe's history. in fact, what I really suspect here from the writers is the necessity to introduce, one way or another, a man in the "raising a child" equation. that's the big deal about gay parents, they can't raise a child without the kid being damaged, that what the majority think. bringing a male mentor in Rafe's equation seems to be a way to reassure viewers, and sure it's important to do so, but I can't help thinking it's a bit too much.
BTW, Rafe is gonna make me mad with his behavior isn't he...I know that's the point and he's gonna have a hard time but, that boy better get over it fast.
I have a feeling he's gonna make us both mad. I don't think he'll react well to his mother and Olivia and what will make it worse for him is that Daisy and James are together now. I don't want to think this but he may take his anger out on Otalia.
idk, I kinda think they should hold out on the physical stuff, ie kissing, until JL has the baby. I know I'd feel weird kissing someone else while I was pregnant. Or a pregnant person who isn't my partner. Haha.
I kinda agree with you on holding off 'til the baby bump is gone, but not because I'd be uneasy about kissing a pregnant straight woman, but because I'd prefer a body to body, rather than body to bump kiss. Does that make sense? lol
The sweet and sexy looks are killing me. The tension is building but, where is the kiss!? Nat needs to plant one on Olivia. All the things Olivia does 4 her, it's only right! :-)
Frank is coming around.......I can't believe I am saying this, but.....maybe FIAGM after all !!!! Just another obstacle being moved out of the way. He might also help Rafe deal.....
The court wants someone to MENTOR Rafe, not be his daddy. I think some of us are taking this out of context. Granted, I do believe that a child can be raised perfectly fine with just a good female role model, (and single), but as we know, everyone does not share the same feelings on that issue. Look how old and that judge is, what else did we expect from the geezer. Besides, I think its a good idea. It cant do any harm for Rafe to have freind "mentor", to talk him into excepting the Otalia love.
Sure, "mentor" doesn't mean daddy, Rafe isn't a baby anymore, although he sometimes acts like one. but I still disagree with the mentor thing. As many pointed out, Nat raised Rafe by herself, nobody cared about the lack of man then, nobody cared at all actually.
Saying Rafe needs a man is just another to say she failed in her attemp to raise him and that she's not a good mother. it's scandalous. of course, we could not expect something different from that judge.
you can sooo tell olivia is wishing she could have done that for natalia and that frank is using this just so he can hold stuff over natalia and edge his way in her life urghh
anyway, I hope we won't have to wait too long for the kiss. It's needed, it's expected, it's necessary. we certainly won't have any love scene, which is still a shame but we got to get use to it, so please, don't make us wait too long...
@dantzig75 I know, but I think that the Judge felt that if he had a Male Role Model, he wouldn't get into so much trouble. Also, do you guys realize that The Judge played Jack Twist's Father in Brokeback Mountain, who insisted that Jack's Tombstone would be in The Family Plot and not on Brokeback Mountain.
Can someone pleaaaassse let Frank be a good man and dissapear, put Rafe back in jail, send Jellybean on a secret mission and give Otalia finally twenty minutes daytime tv to explore their love feelings for each other. With a good light setting and some decent camerawork pleeeaaassee
We will never SEE them have a physical relationship, but maybe we will get a little lip action, so people calm down and enjoy this SOAP story. They are obviously doing a good job to get some of us wound up like we are. But it hurts sooo good, doesnt it.
1st yoda, Thank you for loading so fast, EXCELLENTE!!! and come on, the judge and Frank were being big ASSES, MEN....they think they own the world when we all know women have all he power. Who puts a stipulation on having a male role model in his life to mentor him.... I am starting to get pissed. Yet another obstacle for Otalia... And your right they are never going to express their love for each other physically. We are being strung along... but oh it hurts so good.LOL
Hell yeah! then we could have him locked up for being nuts, leaving Otalia to their business......but oh no he escapes, he's axing the FOL door down, cuz they've got locks now!, head pops through the door "here's Frankie!" Nats finally had enough and gets Livs gun (the one she was going to use on Philip), BANG, she's done us all a favour :-) and she doesn't get sent down as it's self defence.....sorry got carried away there!
How annoying is this BS...I mean this Otalia thing is just one big mindfuck. I just don't understand why Olivia has to still take a backseat in Natalia's life. I mean wtf....can't just be together already angst is one thing but this drawn out " i love u, but lets still keep it semi-secret bs" is killin me. Now Rafe's in the picture and he seems like a disaster waiting to happen geez!
well my bit is YEA FRANK!!!! yes I said it... Not usually a frank pal but today it seems he was the only one doing things right. That convo about him not being the only one who loves Nat was to me reasuring....he is coming around yes he is hurting still manage to be at least cordial to olivia. Props Frank....
Ok i'm been thinking-if Olivia doesn't get the girl and Nat decides its not worth it & she ends up with Frank or somethig. I'm going to be so mad at GL . I'm so sick of Olivia always getting riped off. Come on all you have to do is look at her and you would choose her all the time. All the dumb ass guys that didn't must be blind! I hope they don't make Nat dumb & blind too. Oh please no.
i think we already stablished how much he loves her a long LONG time ago, only a person blinded by love would propose that fast and be in deep denial the whole time.
I'm sick of him!! writers please give him something that has nothing to do with otalia!
I have this sad feeling that we are not going to see a kiss until the very last scene of them together in the fall. I hope I am wrong but they just keep teasing us with almost. Anyone agree?
I've thought about that (lisbud40) since they got together. I saw that E! news or some show like that was doing a show about a love scene with a pregnant co-star on one of the soap shows and how that gets pulled off but I never saw the show to see who they were referring to.
I hope that they would not wait that long. I hope they take a chance and really stir things up.
OMG!!! Olivia looks so sad in this epi. She doesnt have to say much 'cause her eyes are full of expressions! She seemed scared of losing Nat for Frank at least thats the impression I had. CC is the most amazing actress in the world!!!!!! I love you CC!!!!LOL
Btw they are standing REALLY close in that preview... if i didn't already know what was happening tomorrow then my mind would be travelling places right now.
that judge is an ass seriously an ass(for the lack of a better word and by better I mean a more insulting one)I can't believe it ! who set that as a condition in what freaking world!!!!I'm speechless.
damnit are we ever gonna get rid of frank?can he ever be more annoying?are we ever gonna see a kiss?ahhhh I can't take it anymore
After this episode I was loving Frank. He recognizes Olivia is truly in love with Nat and acknowledge it. I can see him as a friend and someone who will help Rafe understand his mother's relationship with Olivia
That judge is so full of BS with the male roll model thing.
Ashleyls17 1 year ago
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh damit F-Furtz just do a Hodini and disapear
angie76th 1 year ago
Damit can't get Frank to go away
angie76th 1 year ago
I know they both are addictive
dreamerisso 2 years ago
Man ... I have an atmospheric science final in 3 hours that I've barely studied for but I'm so obsessed with this couple that I've been watching videos instead of studying. They're just so adorable!!
setulf09 2 years ago 2
Look at the look on Nat's face after the hug. She was looking like she wanted more of that. Thens he reached out to Liv like she wanted to stay connected. And she was like "Gus?" I'm glad YOU were here today!"
KaSee007 2 years ago
that thing about a "male influence" is so Chauvinistic!!!!!!!!!
catchic3 2 years ago 5
Check out Olivia all in Frank''s Shiite. When she said Thank you, she was letting him know thank you for helping MY family. O is on her A game. Trust
darn1121 2 years ago 4
Im sooo steamed right now!! I can't believe they are going to through away this storyline between Olivia and Natalia!! we never get what we want, aways only hetero relationships...
hottmama78 2 years ago
Calm down Hott. This will be the best love story ever. We have to go thru the storm to see paradise sweetie
darn1121 2 years ago 3
Rafe needs a male presence in his life. He's never really had one when he was growing up and he's been ok. I think this is when it hits Frank that Olivia really does love Natalia. The things he has seen her do for her and that hug.
shelley38 2 years ago
Good observations on Rafe.
wencrew 2 years ago
I think Rafe is gonna act like a big old brat and he realy has no reason to because of all that he put his mom through. He needs to shut up and grow up he is over 18 and his mom should be able to be happy without his approval.
krissy052274 2 years ago
Would Nat discard her feelings for Olivia in favor of bratty Rafe? I hope not. Rafe is no longer a minor, so he must move out and give her mom a break for once.
Ashley931344 2 years ago
I am going to be so mad if Rafe stalls their relationship.
SoapGirl21 2 years ago
If Rafe's gonna be back in jail, Olivia don't try to bring him out the next time around. This delinquent kid needs sometime to mature first.
Ashley931344 2 years ago
Well explained Cbaceanlvr you pointed out some really true moments i even paused on each time frame to see that stuff lol sweeeeet.
09angelcake 2 years ago
The story of two women in love as told by Natalia's expressions:
2:54 - Sustenance (the emotional connection w/ Olivia)
3:04 - Unbridled Happiness (being held and loved by Olivia)
3:19 - Acceptance (she is w/ the person she's meant to be & they feel the same)
3:42 - Elation (Quality time w/ both Rafe & Olivia)
4:00 - Disappointment (The family evening not including Olivia)
4:15 - Conflict & Confusion (going home wasn't including Olivia)
4:21 - Longing (self-explanatory)
Cbaceanlvr 2 years ago 3
the look natalia gives olivia after the hug! *THUD*
ChlarkForLife 2 years ago 3
The judge has the inkling that Rafe is an immature spoiled brat, that's why there's should be a male mentor ready to kick his a**.
Ashley931344 2 years ago 4
ohmygosh, the previews for tomorrow! idk if his behavior is understandable or not, but he's kind of acting like an immature spoiled brat. someone needs to put him in his place.
vongellio2194 2 years ago 2
nat checking oli out at 3:09
"i'm glad you were here today" 3:17
compelled to touch 4:21
jessica is beautiful preggers - wow!
traw6052066 2 years ago
bette and pregnant tina was pretty hot on l word! Aww poor jellybean tmrw. Otalia was so sweet today. Natalia looked like she didn't want to let liv go after their 'friend' hug. today was great. and frank did a good thing today. we should be happy about that. it made nat happy.
cscgirl13 2 years ago
KISS,KISS, KISS, KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS, IF Jennifer Beals as Bette on THE L WORD Could kiss pregant TIna and make love to her and it all look sexy, then they can kiss being preggers or not!!LOL KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS,KISS
hottmama78 2 years ago
I absolutely LOVE how after Frank leaves, around 2.00, Natalia automatically looks at Olivia and is all smiley and giddy with what had just happened... She's so in love that her happiness is only real when shared with Olivia...
The little things are just perfect and so beautiful. I'm pretty sure I can survive with only these little presents for another month!lol
nirkynuts 2 years ago
Its been weeks since they both said Ilove you to each other and still not one single kiss no intimacy of any kind .If this was real life they would have so experimented by now. I am gonna give up watching if nothing happens soon what are the writers playing at come on guys let them kiss already you have dragged this out long enough give us viewers what we want please please please. Both women are gorgeous.
Dea7hNote 2 years ago
What I dislike the most about this fabricated triangle between Otalia and NumbNuts is the fact that the writers are constantly putting him in a position of power over Natalia (and hence Olivia), but "being the nice guy" or "doing the right thing to ensure the proper path is taken". Will Natalia be beholden to this idiot forever? He gave me the creeps again today, even though he said what he did at the end. And Rafe . . . he's gonna be trouble for our girls.
oldmaryjane 2 years ago 4
When Liv said she's glad Gus's heart was there, I think it was great that Nat said I'm glad YOU were here. Frank doesn't bother me nor any other angst because it just feels like nothing is going to get in their way in the end. Their love will endure whatever is thrown their way and that is a part of what is making them a super couple.
gowusa 2 years ago 11
Oh, Olivia! What is up with the "I'm gonna hug my FRIEND!" Just drop it, drop the word FRIEND, NOW!
bejcmbcmbbej 2 years ago
I believe she only called Nat "friend" there because they were surrounded by people, including Rafe&Frank, but they still wanted to express themselves physically and show their happiness through a physical manifestation (and they wanted BAD!). By calling her friend, Olivia was just saying that it would be normal for regular friends to hug in a situation like that...
And how awesome is it that Frank is the best man Natalia knows, but she's definitely more into the BEST woman! 8)
nirkynuts 2 years ago 5
At least not a romantic relationship
TropicMD 2 years ago
So let me see, we have to tell the entire world about the relationship before we kiss?? What's up with that??? Oh, wait, they haven't kissed....so technically....THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP!!!!
TropicMD 2 years ago
WTF Frankenfish, I'm with the story but come on why couldnt it have been Jeffrey. NO MORE FRANKENFISH!!! geezy
naysgrace 2 years ago
I wanted Jeffrey 2.
carlylane1969 2 years ago
I thought from the prior episode thats why she went to see Jeffrey, Frankenfish really needs to be out of the storyline. We cant have two problems in the girls way Rafe and still Frankenfish..
naysgrace 2 years ago
Honestly, I'm getting a little fed up of them throwing Frank in the middle of this damn story line. My only solaces and comfort comes in the fact that they will be giving Frank a love interest. I just hope it's sooner rather than later. I'm also hoping that Rafe can move on from his past with Olivia and start to acknowledge the fact that she is trying to help him out. I also feel a "thank you" to Olivia is in order for at least trying to make his first night home memorable.
SubtextRules 2 years ago 2
I can't agree more... why bring Frank the loser back in the story line to muck things up... I can't stand him..and what's with Olivia's line " You must love her a lot" That was kind of pathetic.. you can see she's becoming a bit insecure. Nat needs to "pony up the goods" namely to plant one great big passionate kiss on Olivia's lips sooner rather than later!
Chihuaskonda 2 years ago
This is how Frank undermines Olivia and Nat's relationship... gets in there with Rafe and mucks with the Mother-son relationship.
leocusp 2 years ago
I love how Olivia calls him Frankie!
prpalmen 2 years ago 6
Crystal was absolutely amazing today!
I'm speechless!!
I felt pain, agony, and happiness all with just her looks.
its insane.
b2thaecca 2 years ago
Okay....I am really getting fed up. It's been a month now since the confessions of love and still no Kiss???!!!! C'mmmoooonnnn!!!! This is getting ridiculous. AS much as I love the angst; any other couple this invested in each other would have at least kissed by now. I respect that Natalia wants to take it slow; that is the best, but a sweet kiss is natural and normal between 2 people that are into each other like Olivia and Natalia.
TropicMD 2 years ago 2
I totally agree with you on this, you'd think they'd experiment with the intimacy a little more before comng out to their family and friends just to make sure they are totally into each other but it doesn't look like its going to happen that way, unless something happens in the next few episodes....say at work in that office with the BIG bed! ;-)
jenbe8T 2 years ago 2
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ines300 2 years ago
"The Best Man I Know"... that is about the same as "Good Man"... right? I am taking a shot...
superstarburza 2 years ago
I need to slap Rafe....that's all I'm sayin'....He didn't thank Olivia and then invites Frank??!!!! Ughhhh, seriously kid!!! and that whole judge 'male mentoring' thing sounded uttertly ridiculous to me. One thing is guidance, another thing is 'male' guidance, not to mention he is not a minor anymore, but a grown man!
other than that, I loved Nat's resolve today (her speech to the judge, her reassurance to liv...and those previews...yaowzzaaa).
PozoBlue 2 years ago
OK OK at 3:10 SHE WAS NOT LOOKING AT OLIVIAS NECKLACE.........?????? LOL
carlylane1969 2 years ago 3
what is frank the plank going to be mentoring rafe on, how to be a stalker, argh i really cant stand 2 watch him anymore, and as for rafe, seriously who wouldnt want a party if they had just been released from prison, and a thankyou to liv would have been nice, tsk tsk
shudduppayaface 2 years ago 2
Thanks yoda for uploading this! :D How could Rafe be insensitive, immature and ungrateful to Olivia, dismissing the fact that she's always there to help them out as ever? This brat can't be under his mom's skirt always.
Ashley931344 2 years ago
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stephaniaa 2 years ago
After Frank's comment to Olivia towards the end I bet she was thinking "two's company three's a crowd, oh sh*t what am I going to do about Frank!
jenbe8T 2 years ago
Re: the judge and the male mentor thing. I think GL is just showing how prejudical society still is in regards to "nuclear family" is best, blah blah. I think it's (unfortunately) realistic that the judge would take this stance. Poor Liv. She can't help, cause she doesn't have a penis, so she doesn't count! Just another example of how non-blood related same sex partners can be made to feel like they aren't a "real" member of the family. Again, I think GL is trying to show some of the obstacles.
rhyfeddu 2 years ago
i wish frank would back the heck off already. Gosh Natalia doesnt love him, she never did. He needs to get it through his thick head already.
pennyann27 2 years ago 2
I Am Glad To See Rafe Is Going Home But He's Changed A Lot... He said Why He Was There In Jail He Got Into The Whole Religion Thing?? So thats Mean Hes Going To Be Just Like The Pastor I Bet Ya!! ~Krissy~
Ps- Liv and nat Are Looking Extra Hott Today.. I Can't Wait For tomorrow..lol
OhYeahWellUrFace 2 years ago
I think Greg should be Rafe's mentor...
thearcher1980 2 years ago 5
yeess
dantzig75 2 years ago
Damn straight!
chapeloflove123 2 years ago
Rafe is a pain in the a** and a spoilt brat. I mean he could have been a little more thankful to Olivia for the dinner party she arranged. I mean he could have asked her to come and then inviting Frank to dinner at the FOL after his mom ran AWAY from Frank at the alter... the little tantrum in tomorrows episode is priceless!
chapeloflove123 2 years ago 4
Rafe was in Juvenile Detention before the age of 18, has been in Jail going into manhood, then (naturally) a few months in a half way house. I honestly believe that the judge is looking for alternatives to help guide him into manhood. Unfortunately he thinks that it needs to be a MALE mentor. Although its prejudicial, at least he is doing better than our real system and letting the monsters walk the streets without rehabilitation and keep the petty criminals behind bars. Sorry to delve so deep.
darn1121 2 years ago
I don't know much of Rafe's history. in fact, what I really suspect here from the writers is the necessity to introduce, one way or another, a man in the "raising a child" equation. that's the big deal about gay parents, they can't raise a child without the kid being damaged, that what the majority think. bringing a male mentor in Rafe's equation seems to be a way to reassure viewers, and sure it's important to do so, but I can't help thinking it's a bit too much.
and i still adore Otalia and GL
dantzig75 2 years ago
BTW, Rafe is gonna make me mad with his behavior isn't he...I know that's the point and he's gonna have a hard time but, that boy better get over it fast.
Otaliafan22 2 years ago 2
I have a feeling he's gonna make us both mad. I don't think he'll react well to his mother and Olivia and what will make it worse for him is that Daisy and James are together now. I don't want to think this but he may take his anger out on Otalia.
oldmaryjane 2 years ago
idk, I kinda think they should hold out on the physical stuff, ie kissing, until JL has the baby. I know I'd feel weird kissing someone else while I was pregnant. Or a pregnant person who isn't my partner. Haha.
sunshineandfriends 2 years ago
I kinda agree with you on holding off 'til the baby bump is gone, but not because I'd be uneasy about kissing a pregnant straight woman, but because I'd prefer a body to body, rather than body to bump kiss. Does that make sense? lol
oldmaryjane 2 years ago
i agreed nohing is more sexier that having 2 hot body together
ines300 2 years ago
The sweet and sexy looks are killing me. The tension is building but, where is the kiss!? Nat needs to plant one on Olivia. All the things Olivia does 4 her, it's only right! :-)
Otaliafan22 2 years ago 3
i've seen the shoes, yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy, just needed to stick my head under the table lol
helleneangie 2 years ago 3
what does rafe say at the end?
why is emma sad? :(
when in hell are the gunna kiss!!!!
jellybeanlou 2 years ago
Frank is coming around.......I can't believe I am saying this, but.....maybe FIAGM after all !!!! Just another obstacle being moved out of the way. He might also help Rafe deal.....
Litigatorcat 2 years ago 2
oh god, Olivia in the preview...smoulder smoulder ..
mosesposes77 2 years ago 5
AGREED smoldering HOT!!!!!!!
549621jon 2 years ago
is it just me o does it seem like frank is trying to be mad.
549621jon 2 years ago
The court wants someone to MENTOR Rafe, not be his daddy. I think some of us are taking this out of context. Granted, I do believe that a child can be raised perfectly fine with just a good female role model, (and single), but as we know, everyone does not share the same feelings on that issue. Look how old and that judge is, what else did we expect from the geezer. Besides, I think its a good idea. It cant do any harm for Rafe to have freind "mentor", to talk him into excepting the Otalia love.
darn1121 2 years ago
Sure, "mentor" doesn't mean daddy, Rafe isn't a baby anymore, although he sometimes acts like one. but I still disagree with the mentor thing. As many pointed out, Nat raised Rafe by herself, nobody cared about the lack of man then, nobody cared at all actually.
Saying Rafe needs a man is just another to say she failed in her attemp to raise him and that she's not a good mother. it's scandalous. of course, we could not expect something different from that judge.
really,was it really necessary?
dantzig75 2 years ago 3
What did Rafe say at the end? I mean the soiler part.
manicpl 2 years ago
that he was not ready for family yet..
jessGloeckner 2 years ago
Rafe said " I told you I am not ready for family life
TLBSSB24 2 years ago
you can sooo tell olivia is wishing she could have done that for natalia and that frank is using this just so he can hold stuff over natalia and edge his way in her life urghh
ElLoca69 2 years ago 2
anyway, I hope we won't have to wait too long for the kiss. It's needed, it's expected, it's necessary. we certainly won't have any love scene, which is still a shame but we got to get use to it, so please, don't make us wait too long...
dantzig75 2 years ago
do I look this desperate ?
:-)
dantzig75 2 years ago 2
"a male mentor"? WTF? crazy, ridiculous, not to say misogynous.
I'm a bit confused about GL writers message here? those 2 can't raise a child together ? always the "father figure"?
I guess it's a way to reassure some viewers, I have to remember GL is a soap...
OK ok, still men are moron tonight
dantzig75 2 years ago 10
@dantzig75 I know, but I think that the Judge felt that if he had a Male Role Model, he wouldn't get into so much trouble. Also, do you guys realize that The Judge played Jack Twist's Father in Brokeback Mountain, who insisted that Jack's Tombstone would be in The Family Plot and not on Brokeback Mountain.
laminage 8 months ago
Can someone pleaaaassse let Frank be a good man and dissapear, put Rafe back in jail, send Jellybean on a secret mission and give Otalia finally twenty minutes daytime tv to explore their love feelings for each other. With a good light setting and some decent camerawork pleeeaaassee
bibidawn 2 years ago 5
We will never SEE them have a physical relationship, but maybe we will get a little lip action, so people calm down and enjoy this SOAP story. They are obviously doing a good job to get some of us wound up like we are. But it hurts sooo good, doesnt it.
darn1121 2 years ago 7
At .51-.54 sec. Jessi checks out Crys when she turns to watch Frank. Swear to God... Dios Mios... it's getting hot in here.
song5537 2 years ago
I think it was very kind of Frank not to go with Natalia and Rafe when Olivia couldn't go.
bergmanin 2 years ago 2
1st yoda, Thank you for loading so fast, EXCELLENTE!!! and come on, the judge and Frank were being big ASSES, MEN....they think they own the world when we all know women have all he power. Who puts a stipulation on having a male role model in his life to mentor him.... I am starting to get pissed. Yet another obstacle for Otalia... And your right they are never going to express their love for each other physically. We are being strung along... but oh it hurts so good.LOL
song5537 2 years ago 2
Aww, I like how Nat emphasises the YOU in "I'm glad YOU were here today" making it clear that loving Olivia has nothing to do with Gus's heart.
jenbe8T 2 years ago 4
Frank might as well have put on some cute little panties/ tights and a little red cape. "Have no fear, Frank here!!!!" Like wtf are you serious?
Breese4ever 2 years ago 3
Hell yeah! then we could have him locked up for being nuts, leaving Otalia to their business......but oh no he escapes, he's axing the FOL door down, cuz they've got locks now!, head pops through the door "here's Frankie!" Nats finally had enough and gets Livs gun (the one she was going to use on Philip), BANG, she's done us all a favour :-) and she doesn't get sent down as it's self defence.....sorry got carried away there!
jenbe8T 2 years ago
if only you were the writer of this show LOL
shudduppayaface 2 years ago
How annoying is this BS...I mean this Otalia thing is just one big mindfuck. I just don't understand why Olivia has to still take a backseat in Natalia's life. I mean wtf....can't just be together already angst is one thing but this drawn out " i love u, but lets still keep it semi-secret bs" is killin me. Now Rafe's in the picture and he seems like a disaster waiting to happen geez!
Breese4ever 2 years ago 3
loool
think about it... they get together physically and then wat this is amazing i love being kept on the edge of my seat while i hate it loool
ElLoca69 2 years ago
well my bit is YEA FRANK!!!! yes I said it... Not usually a frank pal but today it seems he was the only one doing things right. That convo about him not being the only one who loves Nat was to me reasuring....he is coming around yes he is hurting still manage to be at least cordial to olivia. Props Frank....
zaavian 2 years ago 7
zaavian - I agree he does get the Good man title and for his eyes finally being openned.
BackuZel 2 years ago
Ok i'm been thinking-if Olivia doesn't get the girl and Nat decides its not worth it & she ends up with Frank or somethig. I'm going to be so mad at GL . I'm so sick of Olivia always getting riped off. Come on all you have to do is look at her and you would choose her all the time. All the dumb ass guys that didn't must be blind! I hope they don't make Nat dumb & blind too. Oh please no.
*Just venting a lil* :)
storm705 2 years ago
Oooooooh the eye sex at 4:50...
I'm sorry to be so crass, but is anyone in the world having better sex than these two will when they finally get around to it? HOT. DAMN.
valsapeach 2 years ago
oh my heart breaks everytime liv looks at nat like that!
Brainlab11 2 years ago
It seems Frank C will forever be a part of this storyline....grrrrrr......can somebody show him the door please??
kellyriker23 2 years ago
don't say this. he is an excellent man.he helped them today alot.he proved us one more time how much he loves her.
eleanna1507 2 years ago
i think we already stablished how much he loves her a long LONG time ago, only a person blinded by love would propose that fast and be in deep denial the whole time.
I'm sick of him!! writers please give him something that has nothing to do with otalia!
epjm127 2 years ago 5
I would gladly shall Frank the door and send Rafe to a school somewhere far, far from home! LOLOLOLOL
joanita67 2 years ago 2
I think liv meant "I'm going to hug my GIRLfriend now"
chronicinfidel 2 years ago 8
I have this sad feeling that we are not going to see a kiss until the very last scene of them together in the fall. I hope I am wrong but they just keep teasing us with almost. Anyone agree?
lisabud40 2 years ago 2
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BackuZel 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I've thought about that (lisbud40) since they got together. I saw that E! news or some show like that was doing a show about a love scene with a pregnant co-star on one of the soap shows and how that gets pulled off but I never saw the show to see who they were referring to.
I hope that they would not wait that long. I hope they take a chance and really stir things up.
BackuZel 2 years ago
on the bright side how cute it is that she said:"I'm glad YOU were here today"
oh good lord I thought it was impossible for natalia to get any cutter (was it a little obvious that I'm in team dimples)
epjm127 2 years ago 11
OMG!!! Olivia looks so sad in this epi. She doesnt have to say much 'cause her eyes are full of expressions! She seemed scared of losing Nat for Frank at least thats the impression I had. CC is the most amazing actress in the world!!!!!! I love you CC!!!!LOL
joanita67 2 years ago 10
Btw they are standing REALLY close in that preview... if i didn't already know what was happening tomorrow then my mind would be travelling places right now.
AguilaDeMedianoche 2 years ago
MALE FIGURE!!!!!! you gotta be kidding me!
that judge is an ass seriously an ass(for the lack of a better word and by better I mean a more insulting one)I can't believe it ! who set that as a condition in what freaking world!!!!I'm speechless.
damnit are we ever gonna get rid of frank?can he ever be more annoying?are we ever gonna see a kiss?ahhhh I can't take it anymore
*drop dead*
epjm127 2 years ago 9
Aww she kept looking at Olivia.
Shut the fuck up Frank. I still don't even like you.
Asshole ~_~
AguilaDeMedianoche 2 years ago 4
ditto
shudduppayaface 2 years ago
Yodaluver28, you are the greatest!! :D
Thank you, thank you!!
joanita67 2 years ago 2
After this episode I was loving Frank. He recognizes Olivia is truly in love with Nat and acknowledge it. I can see him as a friend and someone who will help Rafe understand his mother's relationship with Olivia
newhope203 2 years ago 6
And where was Jeffrey?!??!?!
gatorgirl2000 2 years ago 2
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duncorr 2 years ago
Frank needs to deal. Olivia is all the strong partner that Natalia needs in her life. You just cant hold a candle to Ms Spencer... Sorry Detective.
Megd 2 years ago 6
where is part 1??
wildeaboutalex 2 years ago
that judge is an ass!
storm705 2 years ago 5
Thank you
ShikaLH 2 years ago 3