While I admit Rome wasn't the shining example it is sometimes portrayed to be. It was heavily built by slave labor and terrible corruption in the late republic, and toward the end of the empire. Gladiator events, human sacrifice, terrible class separation and unfair chance for advancement in certain fields. But it was a major innovator in military doctrine,engineering,melting other civilizations good ideas into they're own and even improving some. Rome existed in hard times, but it thrived.
@aridchimp Every great Empire gets ambushed setup by a "frienemy". In the end, the Germanic tribes got much worse from the Romans in reprisal. There's was no need to conquer Germania, as it was undesireable for farming & had little to no ore deposits. Instead the avenging legions would simply kill every German along the Rhine border pushing them back north. Marcus Aurelius went one step further and led many legions further into Germania to force them back as far as Scythia. Many became slaves.
@aridchimp Compared to the amount of times the Romans embarrassed the Germanic tribes, there is nothing embarrassing about being ambushed. Not to mention modern historians are saying the Germanic tribes STILL suffered more casualties then the Roman Legion there. Frankly you seem like too much of a tool to care!
Sure, the Romans had their share of losses, even disasters but they were at least able to learn from their mistakes...the Gauls were utterly unable to do the same, they just did one stupid thing after another.
"Get back in formation you drunken fool"......"brawlers and drunkards will be flogged"......probably the best historical televsion series ever !!!! Well done HBO.
this is awesome as a roman history major, Rome was a pretty decent par series which I felt was great addition to the genre , best Rome based TV series since I claudius!
I love historical films, especially about Roman epoch. From many films of the similar style this serial (or probably better to say «a long film») most of all was pleasant for me.
@Anonie324 funny how a simple comment hurted so many people....so picky. I see you're from the US...you know that your country is not very far from what it was Rome? the same concept can be really easily applicated to the USA.
@atnight87 can you shut up and stop talking about US=Rome, anyone who's taken a basic course in history can make that assumption, congrats. And your grammar's wrong
@fergie123able of course when people don't know what to answer go for the "grammar" thing.
You know, not everyone in this world is english\american and write correctly in english....oh but, right, you're american, how can you know that. Keep going to the KFC while holding your mini USA flag yankee.
@atnight87 you can spout off this prejudiced garbage all day, doesn't change the fact you're still wrong about not only your narrow-minded view of cultures based on common stereotypes, but your misinformed assumption concerning the US as a country and the history of ancient Rome. All I ask is you have an open mind about people from other countries, and realize that there are all different kinds of people in every country, with different beliefs, values, lifestyles and creeds. Peace
@Intranetusa what you wrote is an historical aberration and it shows the reason why you shouldn't go around judging others when its clear that you have a poor view of history, without offense of course.
Oversemplification? maybe you're right, its so simple that is clearly evident.
@atnight87 It would be more irritating had they spoken in an Italian accent. It'd be too funny for anyone to pay attention. I think the Chinese and the Persians and the Ottomans made better empires. but that's my opinion.
@atnight87 You wrote....."Ancient Romans talking with a brit accent...nothing more irritating"......well, ancient Rome actually controlled ancient Britain for 400+ years from AD 43 until about AD 410. I'm no lingual expert but I reckon the typical British accent probably does contain a residual amount of ancient Roman accent. Hail Caesar !!!!!!
@greyvulc Because all nations in Europe attempted to emulate Rome, from Charlemagne to Napoleon. In architecture, literature, law. The US Government is a much more sophisticated version of the Roman Republic.
Only thing I didn't like was the Americazation and the English accents and language. Why not Roman and English subtitles?!?!?! Would make it much more realistic. But nevertheless phalanx for the win.
@royalsteven It would have been neat to see. But HBO was aiming for the broadest possible audience, so I suppose the English was inevitable. Plus, from what I've read, the series was tremendously expensive to produce; coaching the actors in Latin language, grammar, syntax and inflection would have made it even more expensive. Who knows? It was a great series nonetheless.
@royalsteven Americanization? WHAT? Mate, every actor was British, they used British phrases. There is NOTHING Americanized about this. It's entirely a British film my good sir. Yes, they should've used Italian actors besides locals being extras.
Or Birtish or whatever!?!?!? Yes, I mean, I can't stand these series/movies being British or American accents. Westernized. In a series about Roman history there should be Italian actors!?!?!?
@royalsteven LOL absolutely, it is very absurd. I wonder why the British accent plays for all. I mean even if a movie is about Greece. British accent seems to mean any White culture. I mean the acting is terrific and it's VERY historically accurate, but phrases like "yes, love" are just what made the movie not get 10/10
The Italian degenerates? Perhaps for the later empire / the fall. Britain and the United States are the true successors of the Repulic and the Empire.
apart from, ofcourse, the problem that iirc nobody actually knows what the romans sounded like, they can guess, but they also believe it sounds nothing like modern italians or the modern italian accents. (not to mention, these are badass actors, nuff said)
@royalsteven Why should there be Italian actors? The modern day Italian is a mixture of everything in Europe that blended during the Empire and after. True Roman blood was practically bred out by the latter half of the Empire because Rome was an melting-pot city! The first of its kind!
@rylege a modern genetic research said italians come from 3 main vivilizations , Celts in the North , latin in the central Italy , and greeks in the south, and roman was since the beginning a a mix of many different tribes living in the central Italy.
Where I live , in my region FVG there s the tallest people of Italy,
ma come ha detto uno chi se ne frega , mi sa che dovreste ripassarvi i libri di storia , si vede che siete stranieri probabilmente anglosassoni con molto bravi in storia
We know for a fact that the gene expression most present in nowadays Italy is R1b-R-M269(the same goes to France or gallia and Germany --- its also present in Greece) and this is due to a Neolithic immigration flow that reached the alps and were then distinguished in Celtic, Germanic and Italic branch.
Most geneticists agree that later immigration didnt have a great impact on the population of Italy or Europe for that matter.
@gaelenfade they won't. I begged and begged (and begged) until I got an email back. They said they were no longer given the financial incentives (or whatever) to make another series. The way I look at it, once something intelligent comes on TV it's pulled b/c someone at the top wants the masses to become daft.
los romanos en lo que aqui se aprecia luchaban al igual que la falange griega ,se cubrian unos a otros con los escudos de sus camaradas eran muy sincronizados en el combate, pero no hay duda que el espartano fue el mejor soldado de elite, ellos solamente copiaron la forma de lucha del soldado espartano , de ahy su superioridad en combate por algo una pequeñaciudad llamada roma logro ser un imperio gracias a la forma de pelea de su legion, saludos desde chile
2:25, he thinks he's a badass. Misconduct before the enemy can be punishable by death according to the UCMJ (Art 99), so he basically got a slap on the wrist. If I was the centurion, I would have killed him myself right in the heat of battle for making me and the rest of my century look bad.
@Agent1W Oh he wasnt punished for breaking the line, he was punished for hiting his superior. That was and i think still is taken as capitol crime , at least in time of war.
@ArcheoRexo Yea, I meant that. It's embarrassing at best to be hit by your own troops in battle, right in front of the enemy. At worst, it could cause a serious break in unit cohesion.
The centurion killed much quicker than Titus did, and he stayed at the unit's front line.
@Agent1W Oh yes he finished them fast. But that was part of their weapons drill. Centers for attacks were neck, groin and belly. It didnt kill instantly, but there were always much blood. And that was wat they wanted for enemy to see. Line of stained shield and before then their defeated enemies twisting in agony. They prcticly used terror as weapo so the shock of the combat (and ofcourse real of balance you must step on dead to advance, slipery) would take enemy of balance and will die easier.
@ArcheoRexo It was really more that those areas of the body are the soft parts of the body. Roman infantry was taught not to drive their blade into the chest because your blade could get tangled in bone and even dull your blade. They were all about speed and efficiency, not looking cool.
@rylege It wasnt about looking cool. It was practical. It would scare shit out of the enemy if he see only his dead or dying men with great gore around them, and scutum by scutum covered in blood of their comrades. Believe my it was practical :) . But you are right about ehat you wrote. But the tangling og the blabe is mainly caused by the muscles couse they violently contracts &fter the injury.
I watched this when it came out in 2005....could not wait..was in front of the TV religiously every sun nite...lol...what a series....Kevin McKidd made this series. And Ray Stevenson.
I thought the guy who played Marc Anthony was spectacularly good too. Some of the best acting I have ever seen has been on this show. It was also refreshing to see some British actors too.
@ChainsawVsGod It makes little sense to have all lead roles played by Brits, more Italian actors were needed. Actually NO Italian played a lead role or even a supporting role. They played extras.
@TheTravelfool Modern day Italians are not ancient Romans!!! Anthropologically Roman blood was bred out by the end of the Empire. Italians are a combination of just about everything in Europe!
@rylege I understand that Italy has been conquered by all types of people throughout Europe. However, it still is quite absurd for nobody but Brits to be playing Romans. I understand the Roman Empire stretched to Britain and that in more "modern" times, people like the Austrians came to Italy (the blondes in the north). I hear the same thing about breeding out, but I think a society can never be 100% breeded out. I'll look more into it, thanks :)
@rylege don't worry, I know modern day Italians aren't the equivalent in ancestry to ancient peoples :) don't worry my dad is from Italy. When he did his DNA ancestry test (23andme.com) he learned his roots really go: Italian, Spanish, Arab, and German.
i recently made a documentry about romes transition from republic to empire using footage from this series anyone who likes this period in histroy in welcome to check it out. there are two 8 minute segments
@bugna1968 Chi se ne frega? Gli antichi romani non esistono più. La linea di sangue era finito più di mille anni fa. Romani moderni sono un misto di tutto ciò che in Europa.
Poor old goth. He surrendered to big Julii, they kept him imprisoned for years and then strangled him during a victory in Rome, as was the custom. The Roman Empire was not a cuddly place.
I hate pygmies. The fucking Romans in this Film are 20 inch too large. I think Not One film about Romans is realistic. All american propaganda. Because america is the second Rome.
Except the Americans have only been a super power for around 65 years and won't hold that position for another 65 ^_^ ... Keep the negative votes coming :D
@rich0292 I wouldnt bet on that, you Euro-trash piece of shit!! We've been in way worse trouble then we are now and we always come out stronger, no matter how much our fair-weather "allies", wish otherwise. We dont pack it in when times are bad, like you soft Europeans do. You can barely tell male from female anymore in Europe, because your balls have atrophied from lack of use.
@SaviorAgent You have got that right. The United States is the second Rome. Please check out my video on here "The United States of Rome". Its no wonder the ruling elite has isolated American schools from studying proper history. In reality The United States is repeating Rome's mistakes and will collapse just like Rome did. This is not what the US founding fathers intended for.
@ChoopingWoodOnline Look you fucking yuppie new world order denier. HAHA real funny ain't it. American Patriots have a job to do. "When Injustice Becomes law, Resistance become Duty". Its the duty of all Americans to resist the approaching tyranny. What I was doing was alerting people to whats going on. I can tell you right now that there is traitors that have committed treason on several occasions, they are working in the US gov. and they are protect and have gotten away with it every time.
@ceoaalp WOW. Is there a traitor in US gov who work against it to insure the approach of tyranny. Well id like to know who he is. You know to cheer him up, and tell him to work harder. It already too late for US to become realy become what it really is, world oppresor, tyrrant between a nations, rapist of UN, real centre of "axis of evil".
@ceoaalp I agree one hundred percent-thanks for stating all of that. Rome fell because, its infrastructure grew weak and corrupt, and inefficient. It rotted from the inside, and then other peoples who had previously been weak, were able to mop it up.
Pullo's lucky... he becomes a gladiator. Had he run off or defected to the Gauls, he would have been crucified. Truly ugly business, crucifixion is -- much nastier than in Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ." Typically, it had an element that would make it an FCC infraction or at least draw howls of protest to show from the front, more so than the full frontal nudity (they showed Vercingetorix full frontal nude here, but at a steep angle). A Roman execution cross usually had on it an impaler.
What an odd couple of friends, the dutiful soldier and the impulsive one...Pullo can't help but getting into troubles, for sure, he wouldn't have found work in the "real" Roman army.
haha and gotta love that instant justice. You disrespect and punch your general, break the law, or steal? YOU DIE.
Nowadays you go through months, if not years of bureaucratic judicial processes only to get a slap on the wrist and then you're set free to go on your merry way and wreak some more havoc on society.
@395235 But that was more for the military not the general populace of Rome, they actually didn't have an official police force. But you are right, scum who rape children and the like walk the streets, but if you are truly innocent or framed based on weak evidence being mutilated or crucified is bullshit.
The problem is many of the people who were sentenced to death were innocent. If someone wanted your job/land/etc, they can frame and accuse you of various crimes and you'd have to retire/commit suicide in disgrace. The Roman justice system was underdeveloped.
@Intranetusa Undeveloped??? You are joking? Try to read the roman law and you will see. How did you ment If someone wanted your job/land/etc, they can frame and accuse you of various crimes and you'd have to retire/commit suicide in disgrace. That how it is now. Not then. Your land can be taken only becouse you owed money or was a traitor. And job, if you mean magistrature, than magistrates were untouchable by law during their term of the office.
You claim people "Commit suicide in disgrace" nowadays? I think you're living in the Middle Ages pal.
Roman laws were far worse than today's laws. It was purely an plutocracy - the rich and powerful are almost never punished unless they cross another rich and powerful.
If you think Roman laws were so great, I suggest you some basic history. For much of their history, the commoners, females, etc were repressed. The plebeians abandoned the city in mass secessions due to unjust laws.
@Intranetusa The amount of ignorance in your comment is so high I don't know where to start - maybe I'll start telling you that many of the world's countries still have some basic Roman laws. I'll also tell you that they teach them in Universities. I'll also tell you that in your country, the high military officials have to study ancient Rome deeply (it's a fact - not so hidden that the USA feel themselves as an empire and want to copy the greatest empire of all the time).
Western laws have evolved so much that they don't even remotely resemble the archaic and primitive laws of the Romans. I suggest you do a 5 minute google search and compare the difference between the Roman tablets and, say, English common law or the Magna Carta.
@Intranetusa Im not living in middle ages and trust me people still commit suicide couse of disgrace. Basic history, hmm. I dont give a darn if there were suppresed parts of population, im for limited citizen rights. And secessio plebis, that was 5 times, las was 287BCE and it ended by enactment of Lex Hortensia. Trust me i know history, its my work :).
We have a more complex system that is far more fair (although still not entirely so). System of appeals and innocent until proven guilt. We have rules and regulation governing trials such as the accused knows who the witnesses and accusers are. Our laws are derived from our founding documents. In our founding docs such as the Dec of Indep, we also acknowledge natural rights - rights that no law or government can take away from people. etc
More examples of modern laws: No heresay in trials, information must be relevant to cases, testimonies by witnesses must have the proper background, judges who are biased or have a personal stake in the case have to excuse themselves from the case, etc
Roman laws usually didn't have any of that and their law writing were more reactionary and the result of social upheavals.
YAWWWNNNN!
jerseyshoreITALIAN 9 hours ago
Amazing series...
mpogias13 2 days ago
Really love that line relief they are doing.
matemanos12 1 week ago
My favorite series
darthonia 1 week ago
While I admit Rome wasn't the shining example it is sometimes portrayed to be. It was heavily built by slave labor and terrible corruption in the late republic, and toward the end of the empire. Gladiator events, human sacrifice, terrible class separation and unfair chance for advancement in certain fields. But it was a major innovator in military doctrine,engineering,melting other civilizations good ideas into they're own and even improving some. Rome existed in hard times, but it thrived.
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fuck rome fuck catholics fuck italia
6580006247 4 weeks ago
@6580006247 U2
FallenZempire 3 weeks ago
@6580006247 Were you gang-raped by italians when you were little?
pawnografee 5 days ago
2:14 Nice of Sean Penn to do a cameo.
cheese0muncher 1 month ago
And NO they never learned enough to recover after that battle. They just faded away.
aridchimp 1 month ago
I want to see that on HBO
aridchimp 1 month ago
The battle of Teutoburg forest. Look it up...the Romans got embarrassed and brutalized
aridchimp 1 month ago
@aridchimp Except this was gaul not germania. The romans got embarassed because they had a politician not a general in command of 4 fucking legions.
ContinentalPatriot 1 month ago
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crackshack2 1 month ago
@aridchimp Every great Empire gets ambushed setup by a "frienemy". In the end, the Germanic tribes got much worse from the Romans in reprisal. There's was no need to conquer Germania, as it was undesireable for farming & had little to no ore deposits. Instead the avenging legions would simply kill every German along the Rhine border pushing them back north. Marcus Aurelius went one step further and led many legions further into Germania to force them back as far as Scythia. Many became slaves.
Praetorian107 1 month ago
@aridchimp Compared to the amount of times the Romans embarrassed the Germanic tribes, there is nothing embarrassing about being ambushed. Not to mention modern historians are saying the Germanic tribes STILL suffered more casualties then the Roman Legion there. Frankly you seem like too much of a tool to care!
RazorCell7 4 weeks ago
Line relief system FTW!
DukeOfTennessee117 1 month ago
Loved the whole series can anyone recommend any other shows like this ? please don't say spartacus. cheers!
zimalin 1 month ago
@zimalin does it have to be about the roman era?
If not you could try the pacific or band of brothers
Isivish111lol 1 month ago
@Isivish111lol preferably yea i would like it to be about rome but cheers mate i'll check them out =]
zimalin 1 month ago
Sure, the Romans had their share of losses, even disasters but they were at least able to learn from their mistakes...the Gauls were utterly unable to do the same, they just did one stupid thing after another.
Duodecimvultures 2 months ago
"Get back in formation you drunken fool"......"brawlers and drunkards will be flogged"......probably the best historical televsion series ever !!!! Well done HBO.
RedGoblinus 2 months ago 4
voila encore une série que jai bien aime de tres bon acteur on ne ce las pas de la regardé sais super bien fait bravo
sehusson 2 months ago
this is awesome as a roman history major, Rome was a pretty decent par series which I felt was great addition to the genre , best Rome based TV series since I claudius!
wraithe420 2 months ago
Rome falled, USA will fall.
krifenix 2 months ago
@krifenix What's that got to do with ANYTHING?
RedcoatMic24 2 months ago
@krifenix rome only failed because of 200 years of peace brought in by augustus, their enemys got stronger whilst rome was constantly being attacked
Izzelifting 2 months ago
So so. Spartacus and 300 are better.
krifenix 2 months ago
I love historical films, especially about Roman epoch. From many films of the similar style this serial (or probably better to say «a long film») most of all was pleasant for me.
1stRome 2 months ago
the roman war machine at work
TheMeanConservative 3 months ago
Itranetusa I'm not so sure both empires fought pointless wars and stole resources and liberty from many to bolster the few.
Moviefan137 3 months ago
Damn Ray Stevenson is like the Best Roman ever!
crackshack2 3 months ago
Ancient Romans talking with a brit accent...nothing more irritating
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87 I'd say the shiny fake Rome that over-glamorized everything in years prior was far more annoying...
Anonie324 3 months ago
@Anonie324 funny how a simple comment hurted so many people....so picky. I see you're from the US...you know that your country is not very far from what it was Rome? the same concept can be really easily applicated to the USA.
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87 uh... what? What do you mean?
Anonie324 3 months ago
@atnight87 can you shut up and stop talking about US=Rome, anyone who's taken a basic course in history can make that assumption, congrats. And your grammar's wrong
fergie123able 3 months ago
@fergie123able of course when people don't know what to answer go for the "grammar" thing.
You know, not everyone in this world is english\american and write correctly in english....oh but, right, you're american, how can you know that. Keep going to the KFC while holding your mini USA flag yankee.
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87 you can spout off this prejudiced garbage all day, doesn't change the fact you're still wrong about not only your narrow-minded view of cultures based on common stereotypes, but your misinformed assumption concerning the US as a country and the history of ancient Rome. All I ask is you have an open mind about people from other countries, and realize that there are all different kinds of people in every country, with different beliefs, values, lifestyles and creeds. Peace
fergie123able 3 months ago
@atnight87
Your "Rome=US" is a ridiculous and absurd oversimplification.
You might as well say caveman = Stone Age = Egyptian = Greeks = Romans = Normans = English = British Empire = USA
Intranetusa 3 months ago
@Intranetusa what you wrote is an historical aberration and it shows the reason why you shouldn't go around judging others when its clear that you have a poor view of history, without offense of course.
Oversemplification? maybe you're right, its so simple that is clearly evident.
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87
Oversimplification as in you're taking superficial elements and thinking it applies to the core and roots. aka...judging a book by its cover.
Saying Rome=US is like saying Apples=Firetruck because they're both red
Intranetusa 3 months ago
@Intranetusa Ohhh. I wouldnt give British empire as equivalent to the USA. But i like that equasion between caveman and US :D :D .
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo
lol :D
Intranetusa 2 months ago
@atnight87 It would be more irritating had they spoken in an Italian accent. It'd be too funny for anyone to pay attention. I think the Chinese and the Persians and the Ottomans made better empires. but that's my opinion.
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@atnight87 You wrote....."Ancient Romans talking with a brit accent...nothing more irritating"......well, ancient Rome actually controlled ancient Britain for 400+ years from AD 43 until about AD 410. I'm no lingual expert but I reckon the typical British accent probably does contain a residual amount of ancient Roman accent. Hail Caesar !!!!!!
RedGoblinus 2 months ago
@rylege Asterix and Oberlix is a real Roman film.
SaviorAgent 4 months ago
Roma Universalis
nhall022 4 months ago
Makes me want to re-watch the series.
XKS99 4 months ago
I would appreciate it if someone enlightens me as to what the Rome series has to do with the United Kingdom and/or the United States. :|
greyvulc 4 months ago
@greyvulc Because all nations in Europe attempted to emulate Rome, from Charlemagne to Napoleon. In architecture, literature, law. The US Government is a much more sophisticated version of the Roman Republic.
rylege 4 months ago
Drunken fool! Lmao.
Cayden1986 5 months ago
fucking badass always!!!!! top notch!!
UmbrellaWatch 5 months ago
PULLO FORMATION!!!!!!!!!!
lordon18 5 months ago
Only thing I didn't like was the Americazation and the English accents and language. Why not Roman and English subtitles?!?!?! Would make it much more realistic. But nevertheless phalanx for the win.
royalsteven 5 months ago
@royalsteven Roman? You mean Latin, right?
Animalco 5 months ago
Right. Like for example in the Passion of Christ they spoke their original Aramaic language. Why not Latin in this series?!?!?!?!
royalsteven 5 months ago
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@royalsteven It would have been neat to see. But HBO was aiming for the broadest possible audience, so I suppose the English was inevitable. Plus, from what I've read, the series was tremendously expensive to produce; coaching the actors in Latin language, grammar, syntax and inflection would have made it even more expensive. Who knows? It was a great series nonetheless.
Animalco 5 months ago
@royalsteven Americanization? WHAT? Mate, every actor was British, they used British phrases. There is NOTHING Americanized about this. It's entirely a British film my good sir. Yes, they should've used Italian actors besides locals being extras.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
Or Birtish or whatever!?!?!? Yes, I mean, I can't stand these series/movies being British or American accents. Westernized. In a series about Roman history there should be Italian actors!?!?!?
royalsteven 4 months ago
@royalsteven LOL absolutely, it is very absurd. I wonder why the British accent plays for all. I mean even if a movie is about Greece. British accent seems to mean any White culture. I mean the acting is terrific and it's VERY historically accurate, but phrases like "yes, love" are just what made the movie not get 10/10
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
It just shows English domination. Just like in the old days...
royalsteven 4 months ago
@royalsteven if this was in latin with subtitles it should be great!
MMMBUTI 4 months ago
@royalsteven
The Italian degenerates? Perhaps for the later empire / the fall. Britain and the United States are the true successors of the Repulic and the Empire.
XKS99 4 months ago
Eum I was more talking about the European golde age of trade of circa 1400-1800. See that is our horrific history (of dominance).
royalsteven 4 months ago
@royalsteven
apart from, ofcourse, the problem that iirc nobody actually knows what the romans sounded like, they can guess, but they also believe it sounds nothing like modern italians or the modern italian accents. (not to mention, these are badass actors, nuff said)
MitchofSmeg 4 months ago
Well eum even Italian would be better! It is at least closer than English!?!?!? Baaaaahah
royalsteven 4 months ago
@royalsteven Why should there be Italian actors? The modern day Italian is a mixture of everything in Europe that blended during the Empire and after. True Roman blood was practically bred out by the latter half of the Empire because Rome was an melting-pot city! The first of its kind!
rylege 4 months ago
Yes, modern, but they did not speak English back then in Rome!?!?!?!?
royalsteven 4 months ago
@rylege a modern genetic research said italians come from 3 main vivilizations , Celts in the North , latin in the central Italy , and greeks in the south, and roman was since the beginning a a mix of many different tribes living in the central Italy.
Where I live , in my region FVG there s the tallest people of Italy,
ma come ha detto uno chi se ne frega , mi sa che dovreste ripassarvi i libri di storia , si vede che siete stranieri probabilmente anglosassoni con molto bravi in storia
MarkShotokai 4 months ago
@MarkShotokai
We know for a fact that the gene expression most present in nowadays Italy is R1b-R-M269(the same goes to France or gallia and Germany --- its also present in Greece) and this is due to a Neolithic immigration flow that reached the alps and were then distinguished in Celtic, Germanic and Italic branch.
Most geneticists agree that later immigration didnt have a great impact on the population of Italy or Europe for that matter.
WolfganggAmadeus 3 months ago
@MarkShotokai concordo. una massa informe d'ignoranti anglo-americani che pretendono di sapere tutto sull'antica Roma...fa accapponare la pelle.
Leggerli sparare sentenze sulla nostra storia e' ancora piu' raccapricciante...
Saremo anche italiani, pizza e mandolino...ma non siamo ignoranti come queste capre.
atnight87 3 months ago
If any of you like this series, you need to read the "Legion" books, cato and macro can do no wrong!
SerChade 5 months ago
@SerChade read them. fell in love.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
HBO is so fucking awesome when it comes to series like this. For example Band of Brothers and The Pacific
chrishs94 5 months ago 2
@chrishs94 or the people who made the videos (Tom Hanks for one) :)
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
@farawayreach It's the martial law, not the ordinary justice. Still to WWI or even WW2 would have happened the same
robasci00 5 months ago
ROMAN LEGIONAIRE
lordon18 5 months ago
Love the salad.
javaguy418 6 months ago
People forget how it was HBO and the BBC who made this.
GUnitSeanAKAmong 6 months ago
Still waiting for the movie or for HBO to have the sense to put this back on the air.
gaelenfade 6 months ago
@gaelenfade they won't. I begged and begged (and begged) until I got an email back. They said they were no longer given the financial incentives (or whatever) to make another series. The way I look at it, once something intelligent comes on TV it's pulled b/c someone at the top wants the masses to become daft.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
los romanos en lo que aqui se aprecia luchaban al igual que la falange griega ,se cubrian unos a otros con los escudos de sus camaradas eran muy sincronizados en el combate, pero no hay duda que el espartano fue el mejor soldado de elite, ellos solamente copiaron la forma de lucha del soldado espartano , de ahy su superioridad en combate por algo una pequeñaciudad llamada roma logro ser un imperio gracias a la forma de pelea de su legion, saludos desde chile
MStewie1981 6 months ago
get back in formation you drunken fool lol :P
merenidi 6 months ago
2:25, he thinks he's a badass. Misconduct before the enemy can be punishable by death according to the UCMJ (Art 99), so he basically got a slap on the wrist. If I was the centurion, I would have killed him myself right in the heat of battle for making me and the rest of my century look bad.
Agent1W 6 months ago
@Agent1W Oh he wasnt punished for breaking the line, he was punished for hiting his superior. That was and i think still is taken as capitol crime , at least in time of war.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo Yea, I meant that. It's embarrassing at best to be hit by your own troops in battle, right in front of the enemy. At worst, it could cause a serious break in unit cohesion.
The centurion killed much quicker than Titus did, and he stayed at the unit's front line.
Agent1W 4 months ago
@Agent1W Oh yes he finished them fast. But that was part of their weapons drill. Centers for attacks were neck, groin and belly. It didnt kill instantly, but there were always much blood. And that was wat they wanted for enemy to see. Line of stained shield and before then their defeated enemies twisting in agony. They prcticly used terror as weapo so the shock of the combat (and ofcourse real of balance you must step on dead to advance, slipery) would take enemy of balance and will die easier.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo It was really more that those areas of the body are the soft parts of the body. Roman infantry was taught not to drive their blade into the chest because your blade could get tangled in bone and even dull your blade. They were all about speed and efficiency, not looking cool.
rylege 4 months ago
@rylege It wasnt about looking cool. It was practical. It would scare shit out of the enemy if he see only his dead or dying men with great gore around them, and scutum by scutum covered in blood of their comrades. Believe my it was practical :) . But you are right about ehat you wrote. But the tangling og the blabe is mainly caused by the muscles couse they violently contracts &fter the injury.
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
I wish I could have lived in those days..were hard work always = progress
Jorgelicious1 6 months ago
great tv show, it really is too bad that its over
ovireenactor 7 months ago
Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus are the best !
MrHash97 7 months ago
I watched this when it came out in 2005....could not wait..was in front of the TV religiously every sun nite...lol...what a series....Kevin McKidd made this series. And Ray Stevenson.
davehutchinson67 7 months ago
@davehutchinson67
I thought the guy who played Marc Anthony was spectacularly good too. Some of the best acting I have ever seen has been on this show. It was also refreshing to see some British actors too.
ChainsawVsGod 6 months ago
@ChainsawVsGod It makes little sense to have all lead roles played by Brits, more Italian actors were needed. Actually NO Italian played a lead role or even a supporting role. They played extras.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
@TheTravelfool Modern day Italians are not ancient Romans!!! Anthropologically Roman blood was bred out by the end of the Empire. Italians are a combination of just about everything in Europe!
rylege 4 months ago
@rylege I understand that Italy has been conquered by all types of people throughout Europe. However, it still is quite absurd for nobody but Brits to be playing Romans. I understand the Roman Empire stretched to Britain and that in more "modern" times, people like the Austrians came to Italy (the blondes in the north). I hear the same thing about breeding out, but I think a society can never be 100% breeded out. I'll look more into it, thanks :)
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
@rylege don't worry, I know modern day Italians aren't the equivalent in ancestry to ancient peoples :) don't worry my dad is from Italy. When he did his DNA ancestry test (23andme.com) he learned his roots really go: Italian, Spanish, Arab, and German.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
the equivalent ??? you talk about centuries ago. romans was just one of the civilizations of italy, italians are a culture not a race.
MarkShotokai 4 months ago
@MarkShotokai I know
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
@MarkShotokai I was just in Rome last week
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
CÆSAR! oh no I mean BRUTUS!
bardamu7117 8 months ago
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i recently made a documentry about romes transition from republic to empire using footage from this series anyone who likes this period in histroy in welcome to check it out. there are two 8 minute segments
ovireenactor 8 months ago
I actually smile when i saw cicero and tiro together :)
damn i hate caeser for what he did to vercingetorix.
talamon01 8 months ago
"shifts over next one hold the line!" i bet they could hold that position for a few years
zerker12568901 8 months ago
damm HBO can make some great series
Stromberg91 8 months ago 2
@Stromberg91 yeap a game of thrones... good stuff can wait for part two :)
neddhu 6 months ago
Is that Sean Penn at the 2:14 mark?
Hobojabobo90 8 months ago
@Hobojabobo90 lol
zerker12568901 8 months ago
Cieran Hinds best Caesar ever!
DamnYouDamnMe 8 months ago
@DamnYouDamnMe AGREED!!!!
davehutchinson67 7 months ago
HBO never fails!
To bad they had to quit because of the costs.
BrugesFan23 8 months ago
Loved this show.
STMguitarguy96 9 months ago
One of the best if not the best HBO shows out there.
rgobio 9 months ago
questi non sono Romani...sono americani
bugna1968 9 months ago
@bugna1968 Chi se ne frega? Gli antichi romani non esistono più. La linea di sangue era finito più di mille anni fa. Romani moderni sono un misto di tutto ciò che in Europa.
rylege 4 months ago
By the way who is the guy who plays the centurion?
Boromir33 10 months ago
@Boromir33 Kevin Mckidd plays the centurion
Killjoy2297 9 months ago
Lol for a second I thought he was gonna say "Deserters will be shot." lol with what? catapults?
Boromir33 10 months ago
LOVE THAT ROMAN CENTURION UNIFORM
v49624430 10 months ago 38
@v49624430 me too :3
kanata0717 9 months ago
Poor old goth. He surrendered to big Julii, they kept him imprisoned for years and then strangled him during a victory in Rome, as was the custom. The Roman Empire was not a cuddly place.
TankUni 10 months ago
@TankUni
He was a Gaul, at least the real Vercingetorix was. But no, your right, not cuddly at all, but hard as fuck.
Nickodemusodurn 10 months ago
@Nickodemusodurn
Thanks for the correction. - need to brush up my history!
TankUni 10 months ago
@TankUni
All good, they're all just a bunch of barbarians anyway. Not civilized like the romans ;) haha.
Nickodemusodurn 10 months ago
Rome and Breaking bad .... the best 2 series !
LederhosenJohnny80 10 months ago
por dios que admirable formacion y diciplina , el mejor ejercito de todos los tiempos..sin lugar a dudas.
janosmg 10 months ago
we need these guys nowdays, they wont stuff around in lybia or afghanistan ill tell ya !! :)
crazyknight2008 10 months ago
I hate pygmies. The fucking Romans in this Film are 20 inch too large. I think Not One film about Romans is realistic. All american propaganda. Because america is the second Rome.
SaviorAgent 11 months ago
@SaviorAgent
Except the Americans have only been a super power for around 65 years and won't hold that position for another 65 ^_^ ... Keep the negative votes coming :D
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tecumseh1175 4 months ago
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@rich0292
@rich0292 I wouldnt bet on that, you Euro-trash piece of shit!! We've been in way worse trouble then we are now and we always come out stronger, no matter how much our fair-weather "allies", wish otherwise. We dont pack it in when times are bad, like you soft Europeans do. You can barely tell male from female anymore in Europe, because your balls have atrophied from lack of use.
tecumseh1175 4 months ago
@SaviorAgent You have got that right. The United States is the second Rome. Please check out my video on here "The United States of Rome". Its no wonder the ruling elite has isolated American schools from studying proper history. In reality The United States is repeating Rome's mistakes and will collapse just like Rome did. This is not what the US founding fathers intended for.
ceoaalp 10 months ago
@ceoaalp lol Thanks for the info some random idiot on youtube, cheers!
ChoopingWoodOnline 10 months ago
@ChoopingWoodOnline Look you fucking yuppie new world order denier. HAHA real funny ain't it. American Patriots have a job to do. "When Injustice Becomes law, Resistance become Duty". Its the duty of all Americans to resist the approaching tyranny. What I was doing was alerting people to whats going on. I can tell you right now that there is traitors that have committed treason on several occasions, they are working in the US gov. and they are protect and have gotten away with it every time.
ceoaalp 10 months ago
@ceoaalp WOW. Is there a traitor in US gov who work against it to insure the approach of tyranny. Well id like to know who he is. You know to cheer him up, and tell him to work harder. It already too late for US to become realy become what it really is, world oppresor, tyrrant between a nations, rapist of UN, real centre of "axis of evil".
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ceoaalp I agree one hundred percent-thanks for stating all of that. Rome fell because, its infrastructure grew weak and corrupt, and inefficient. It rotted from the inside, and then other peoples who had previously been weak, were able to mop it up.
wilb6657 7 months ago
@SaviorAgent This is the most realistic Rome ever put on film! Besides where are you going to find a real ancient Roman today?
rylege 4 months ago
Formation is the best
htcpower 11 months ago
This never gets old
Istojataachatearme 11 months ago
Great series and i hate how much they mispronounce names ( caesar would be Kai-sar and Js would be Is etc
Serutuf 1 year ago
best show ever. EVER =D
omfg please make the exact same show about ancient Greece or Egypt...and this time run it for at least 20 seasons =(
rofflemows 1 year ago
Pullo's lucky... he becomes a gladiator. Had he run off or defected to the Gauls, he would have been crucified. Truly ugly business, crucifixion is -- much nastier than in Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ." Typically, it had an element that would make it an FCC infraction or at least draw howls of protest to show from the front, more so than the full frontal nudity (they showed Vercingetorix full frontal nude here, but at a steep angle). A Roman execution cross usually had on it an impaler.
EdM021 1 year ago
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@theinstinct64
Hannibal's "uprising" was about 150 years before. so no.
saskganesh 1 year ago
@theinstinct64
Hannibal's "uprising" was about 150 years before. so no.
saskganesh 1 year ago
@xJarlanx Thanks! Never noticed that.
Bendigo6000 1 year ago
What an odd couple of friends, the dutiful soldier and the impulsive one...Pullo can't help but getting into troubles, for sure, he wouldn't have found work in the "real" Roman army.
Duodecimvultures 1 year ago
I just finished reading Caesars book, the conquest of gaul, and i read the part about vorenus and pullo, it was sick!
TheGhostfacekilla86 1 year ago
haha and gotta love that instant justice. You disrespect and punch your general, break the law, or steal? YOU DIE.
Nowadays you go through months, if not years of bureaucratic judicial processes only to get a slap on the wrist and then you're set free to go on your merry way and wreak some more havoc on society.
THE ROMANS DIDN'T FUCK AROUND. lol
395235 1 year ago 90
@395235 But that was more for the military not the general populace of Rome, they actually didn't have an official police force. But you are right, scum who rape children and the like walk the streets, but if you are truly innocent or framed based on weak evidence being mutilated or crucified is bullshit.
Humanlink1 1 year ago
@395235 You got beat to death in front of your legion for falling asleep on guard duty. They REALLY REALLY didn't fuck around.
riniel17 1 year ago
@395235 hahahahaha fucking true mate! +1
Gr33kWaRChieF 9 months ago
@395235
The problem is many of the people who were sentenced to death were innocent. If someone wanted your job/land/etc, they can frame and accuse you of various crimes and you'd have to retire/commit suicide in disgrace. The Roman justice system was underdeveloped.
Intranetusa 9 months ago
@Intranetusa it's the same way now, althought it is possible than today less innocent people get punished and more of guilty people get free
Picard578 9 months ago
@Intranetusa Undeveloped??? You are joking? Try to read the roman law and you will see. How did you ment If someone wanted your job/land/etc, they can frame and accuse you of various crimes and you'd have to retire/commit suicide in disgrace. That how it is now. Not then. Your land can be taken only becouse you owed money or was a traitor. And job, if you mean magistrature, than magistrates were untouchable by law during their term of the office.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo
You claim people "Commit suicide in disgrace" nowadays? I think you're living in the Middle Ages pal.
Roman laws were far worse than today's laws. It was purely an plutocracy - the rich and powerful are almost never punished unless they cross another rich and powerful.
If you think Roman laws were so great, I suggest you some basic history. For much of their history, the commoners, females, etc were repressed. The plebeians abandoned the city in mass secessions due to unjust laws.
Intranetusa 4 months ago
@Intranetusa The amount of ignorance in your comment is so high I don't know where to start - maybe I'll start telling you that many of the world's countries still have some basic Roman laws. I'll also tell you that they teach them in Universities. I'll also tell you that in your country, the high military officials have to study ancient Rome deeply (it's a fact - not so hidden that the USA feel themselves as an empire and want to copy the greatest empire of all the time).
atnight87 3 months ago
@atnight87
Western laws have evolved so much that they don't even remotely resemble the archaic and primitive laws of the Romans. I suggest you do a 5 minute google search and compare the difference between the Roman tablets and, say, English common law or the Magna Carta.
Intranetusa 3 months ago
@Intranetusa Im not living in middle ages and trust me people still commit suicide couse of disgrace. Basic history, hmm. I dont give a darn if there were suppresed parts of population, im for limited citizen rights. And secessio plebis, that was 5 times, las was 287BCE and it ended by enactment of Lex Hortensia. Trust me i know history, its my work :).
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo
The point being our laws are way better and way more evolved than ancient laws from Rome, Greece, etc
Intranetusa 2 months ago
@Intranetusa
But you think they had better morals back then?
Now we have kids that are like WTF NOOB and BITCH...
crackshack2 1 month ago
@Intranetusa define evolved for me.
K3yB04dG000n 1 month ago
@K3yB04dG000n
We have a more complex system that is far more fair (although still not entirely so). System of appeals and innocent until proven guilt. We have rules and regulation governing trials such as the accused knows who the witnesses and accusers are. Our laws are derived from our founding documents. In our founding docs such as the Dec of Indep, we also acknowledge natural rights - rights that no law or government can take away from people. etc
Intranetusa 1 month ago
@K3yB04dG000n
More examples of modern laws: No heresay in trials, information must be relevant to cases, testimonies by witnesses must have the proper background, judges who are biased or have a personal stake in the case have to excuse themselves from the case, etc
Roman laws usually didn't have any of that and their law writing were more reactionary and the result of social upheavals.
Intranetusa 1 month ago
@395235
"THE ROMANS DIDN'T FUCK AROUND. lol"
No city state fucked around back then.
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KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
Once I read where you said "nowadays" i knew it was going to end up being a stupid misinformed generalization lol.
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago