@MoparViking70 its just the camera and old film that make it look pink. the car is actually red. they say so in the beginning. i thought it was pink too
I'm almost Seasick watching that thing corner. We had a new 68 Plymouth wagon with 383. Dyno tuned by Wild Bill in Gladstone. Back in the day. The neighbors were luckier with their 442's, Buick GS, GTO's and 396 Chevelles.
@stoker20 The '69 GTX cornered pretty well it seems, search "1969 GTX road test" or something like that, it was featured on this same show, seems like it cornered alot better than this charger actually. The GM's of the same era seemed to be alot more "cheaply" built, i've seen a few on this show where they just about rolled over, the tires were falling off the rims etc.
Anybody criticizing the performance obtained in these tests should remember this was a test of a bone-stock car, in 1969. With tires from 1969...14" wheels with contact patches about 7.5 inches and undoubtedly bias-ply. Just watching the slo-mo of the 70mph corner reveals that those poor skinny tires were totally overwhelmed by the power & weight of that sled.
Best quarter mile run...14.1. Damn...you must have had a complete MORON driving this car. 14.1 is evident that he had no clue what he was doing. I had both...a 383 version and a hemi version. Even teh 383 version was faster than 14.1. Next time you clowns test drive a car...unhook the trailer and get someone that knows what the hell they are doing.
Do you have any idea where the "track" was that they utilized for testing on this show. It does not look like any road course that was actually used for racing.
"I love it when people reminisce about how cheap things were while forgetting that equally low labor rates were the primary reason."
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I love it when people reminisce about how people remind you that equally low labor rates were the primary reason for low prices BUT FORGET THAT THE STANDARD OF LIVING WAS LESS BECAUSE OF NO INFLATION. Where did inflation come from - ask your nearest UNION representative. He's the guy with a face like a used car saleman.
I got me one of thoes but its not all original. It just got sanded down and where touchin up on some things and just got my door rubbers today. Man she runs nice not street ready yet but its comming. Great vid
Everyone who says o man 7 mpg geeze. Remember gas was less then a dollar a gallon or just coming up to a dollar. But I do love these lol. If I had the $ I'd buy one of these charger 500's and race my buddies wrx all damn day to prove cars like this will always beat today's junk lol
And back then, a $10K per year job was considered "big money." I love it when people reminisce about how cheap things were while forgetting that equally low labor rates were the primary reason.
@harddrivin1le My father was a Welder, back in 1969, and brought home between 600-800 a week. Not your 10k a yr job eh? His ride was a 1965 El Camino, and after he blew up the 327 drag racing it, and my Uncle George couldn't afford his Camaro anymore, the limited Edition 402 went into the Camino. Serious muscle there.
Mom's ride? 1964 Chevy II with a 327-4 speed. 350 gross HP. I would miss the bus to school on purpose just to get a ride in that pocket rocket...
@harddrivin1le you also forget there was alot less things to spend your money on. No home computers, no internet, no cell phones, ect. How much extra money a month would you have if you took away your cell phone bill, internet bill, cable bill, DVDs (no VCRs or DVD players back then), Netflix, video games, ect. you'd have a few $100 plus more to spend every month at least. makes you think about the crap we buy nowadays that we think we need and can't live without. offsets the lower pay a bit no?
why didnt they call it the coronet 500? it takes more from the coronet than the charger. guess its a logistics thing they already had the charger as there race car
@InspireImages Death trap compared to what? A civic? Talk about death traps, any year Honda ANYTHING, even the pass port is a death trap. Let me T-Bone your Shit-vic with a 1969 ANYTHING Sedan and see who walks away.
@conrynsilverleaf65 Don't take it the wrong way, it is true there is no better way to get an import out of your way then 4000lbs of American Engineering barreling right at them but my point is that much power into a car that can do one thing good which is "Go straight" can be very dangerous to some who cannot restrain themselves. I've driven one before, one of my friends died in one of these. They are a true Tuna Boat.
Looks as nimble and agile as a gazel! I didnt even know about this 69' model Charger. It must have been the early early 69 before they went back to the 68 body shape. I wonder if any of these super rare 69's are still around anywhere? I bet they're worth a MINT LOAD today! Wish i had one.
@Jabberdau Yeah thats what i meant. I wasn't aware a 69 model came out like that. I always thought all 69's had the split grill look. Learn something everyday i guess, but i don't like the look of the front of the 500. It looks a bit like the 68 or 69 road runner i think. Cheers for that info!
That car was years ahead of the tire tech of the day. I grew up in the 60's and just the word hemi, put fear into GM and Ford guys. How do I know that, I used to own a 62 SS Impala, then a 66 Mustang. It took me until 2005 to own a hemi.
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm! That would make 370 hp at the tire with standard 20% hp loss thru the drive train
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm!
Whats up with this thing? It wont let me post the actual 1965 dyno for the 1966 street hemi. Go to allpar.com and do a search and you'll see harddrivins wrong!
Cars back then also ran bias-ply skinnier tires, unlike wider radial tires modern cars use. In other words, they were pretty much skinny truck tires. The only vehicles that use them today are trucks but they are still wider than back then.
Optimally tuned, production line stock 426 street hemis produced roughly 315 rear wheel HP (on a chassis dyno). That's not a lot of power for a 4,100 lb. car. The claim that 426 street hemis "really made 500 HP" is based solely in urban myth. Chrysler rated the engine at 350 NET HP (the way modern engines are rated), alongside the old 425 "gross" rating in their 1971 literature. The results from the more than 30 vintage hemi road tests I have demonstrate the validity of the 350 HP figure.
I believe you aboutv the hp ratings -to a point. I don't think you're lying. Nor do I think the guy in r&d was lying, either. I do believe that the data he gave was incomplete. I base that on every Mopar authority and engineer (including my dad) who ran the numbers. 5,850 rpm saw close to 500 hp -maybe more, with the mechanical lifter version of the 426. 425 hp @5,000 rpm, but approx. 500 hp @ 5,850 rpm.
very cool car, too bad it and even the more extreme daytona were no match for the boss 429 powered talledega torino or mercury cyclone spoiler, even with all the hype over the hemi and the wings they still usually were watching the rear bumper of the #17, 21 or 98
@TheTulsaBoyz this is wrong that you say..cause the many winnings of the dodge charger with the 426 hemi engine was the reason why the rules changed an became sharper at the nascar races and this engine finaly stopped being produced..so i think someone else was looking another bumper... :) MOPAR POWER
That was kind of intresting. I had a '69 440 charger for 23 yrs and after tweeking the supenstion a bit it was a fairly good handling car, considering it's size. I also found the mpg rating funny but you have to remeber gas was only 30-50 cents a gallon in 69. Don't think it's a pink car. the video has just degraged over the yrs. Tumbs up for this piece of history!!
I wonder if that car survived. Could you imagine owning it? Charger 500, 426 Hemi red with white stripe, black interior, power windows, auto with console shift, clock with no tach. How many were made exactly like that. Probably one. Owning that very car would be the coolest thing.
I wonder if that car survived. Could you imagine owning it? Charger 500, red with white stripe, black interior, power windows, auto with console shift, clock with no tach. How many were made exactly like that. Probably one. Owning that very car would be the coolest thing.
@airsoftloverusp no a 500 was a race built car for circle tracks .they had to build 500 for the public befor they could start racen them. thats why the body is dif there the only one of there kind
@Zach979 Watch '1970 Challenger on the Autobahn' to see one of these 440/6 pack 4-speed cars driven on the German Autobahn--no test times but the enthusiastic owner gets the car to 130 according to the speedo. Not fantastic top speed, but cool to watch. Maybe we can convince him to give us some test numbers?
Now you can see why they left the stock tires on the 68 charger that was being chased around San Fransico by steve mcqueen. The 68 mustang had all kinds of work done to it and the charger still held up real ggod against the mustang. When they finished the mustang they drove them around griffith park in L.A. and the charger just pulled away from the mustang. The 440 was just as good if not better than the hemi. The poor ford was just a pig engine. It had alot of potential though.
My god the tires back then were just pathetic!! No 0 to whatever time is accurate for what the car can really do. Now this dodge was truly what the GM and Ford wanted to do. Only GM came close with their cars. Ford just made cars for the secretary. Ford always put too small of a carb or too small ports on their heads. If you own say a 390 hi-po ford nowadays, you can really build it the way it sould have been built, but back in the day, they were pigs!!
the new srt8 challenger would suck the headlights out of that street version wallowing pig. The street hemis didnt have the right components the make those heads really work. Needed headers,cam and Holley carbs to make em really romp!
I dont know anybody that had this car--Insurance rates were high--thats why!! I do know this car was THE car to have then and now--especially with 525hp-real hp under the hood. Dont believe the 425hp that was advertised by Chrysler. The new Hemi cars dont even have a rats ass chance of going up against this car, not even the power come close to the 426 Hemi motor and 2 4bbls.
@BNforever2009 You got it backwards, the 426 hemi doesn't stand a rat's ass chance against the new hemi engines. As installed under the hood the engine in the Challenger SRT8 makes 425, in the RT 372 or 376 I could be off a bit. The 426 hemi made 350. It even made less torque than those new engines. The torque was 390. Nevermind the fact the 426 is a lot heavier too.
@Mikejesmike By the gross rating, the 426 Hemi produced close to 500 hp, not the 425 advertised. I'm not sure what that translates into by today's hp rating, but it certainly would not be a slouch.
@cincyblows The gross hp is irrelevent, doesn't matter if it was really 500 although in my book regarding a chapter dealing with the engine and if the engine was deliberately overrated or underrated it was truth in advertising "The factory rating for the street hemi of 425 horsepower was right on", Ted Flack recalls from his days in the dynamometer labs. "When we did a scuff test, we'd fire up a green engine-no hours on it-and run it at max horsepower for two hours.
@Mikejesmike (continued) Those things made 425 horsepower like clockwork." So you see it was 425 gross, the guy has NO REASON to lie about it. So it measures up nicely with with the net drop-figure 50-85 hp loss from gross for most engines.
gross rating 425 hp 490 lb ft
today's net rating 350 hp 390 lb ft loss of 75 hp, totally within range of a gross to net drop.
The engine is definitely not a slouch at 350 but it's not the firebreather it's made out to be, back then it was, but not today.
@cincyblows So? It doesn't matter, it got 350 net. But keep in mind what I mentioned-one of the people that was there during the testing of the engine said that the rating was accurate, why would he lie about it? What would he gain? This being decades after the fact. Is he getting paid by Chrysler to keep the mystique of the 426 hemi being underrated alive anytime he's being interviewed? What does he or chrysler gain by lying? They don't build it anymore or make a profit from it.
I find it hilarious that people think these old Hemi cars werent that fast from the factory, or did have much potential, or the 440 powered cars were faster.
Sure in some cases. For a guy that had the car and couldnt do any kind of tuning.
I mean simply putting a advance timing curve into these cars would make much more power. Add headers, and do some intake mods, tune the carbs, rework the timing curve.
Not a car on the road would come close to touching it. ..
If anything, the sheer lack of tyre technology and the wallowing suspensions set-ups did little to help put the power to the ground. As much as I love these old non-PC muscle cars, they don't come close to modern cars' gearing, power curves and grip.
LOL, Why didn't these guys try to launch the car withOUT burning the tires. It's like they wanted to burn the tires all they could every time. They could gotten better times if they worked at it. The hemi doesn't have massive amounts of low Rpm torque like a 440 six pack did.
I love these videos and I love these cars. It's interesting to see how much of that power was lost through to inadequate tyres and saggy, rolling suspension. Not to mention the crappy brakes. Yet, they deemed this a great handling car? Times were different then 'eh? You've got to love the fact that big cars with vast amounts of overhang were the preferred choice.
14.1 in the quarter, imagine if they knew how to make tires back then, it definitely would have been a low-mid 13 sec car. not to mention a much lower 0-60, look at that wheel spin :P
@kridley73 Actually, No, power windows were $105.20 in 1969 which was alot of money for a car and I mean who would trust it, manual windows were more reliable back then.
@F6HemiCharger I think I heard back then you would rather have a Cadillac or Lincoln with power windows than a Chevy or Dodge. Not like today where every car or truck has power something comes standard across the board.
Ronnie Sox got low 11s in a '69-1/2 6bbl 4-speed Road Runner back in the day, and they run 10s today in F.A.S.T. class racing, all with the skinny bias plies. I'm getting 9MPG in my '69 Charger R/T. Those are not the cast wheels, by the way. Those are hub caps. The cast wheels are being reproduced now.
I thought Ronnie Sox ran like a 12.97 with a stock 6 BBl Road Runner back in the day. Low 11's.....with 400hp and 3,700lbs? I dunno about that. And the F.A.S.T cars are often 500ci, 14:1 compression, lightened bodies, and all out racing engines that appear stock. Big difference. I own an original 70 440-6 Cuda, and it will run very low 13's/high 12's at very best.
@AGTW31 yep those tires were better in someways than people think. but still the car is limited in performance by the tires. this includes cornoring, braking and traction off the line.
well am not such about that but all 426 hemi(425hp) from 68-to the last year 1971 were pretty much the same only difference was probably size of vehicle and some other stuff and what other way to drive a hemi but with your foot on the gas. It does not matter if it gets 2 mpg or 20 i'll still drive it and enjoy it. My name says chevy but am more into mopars.
I can imagine that those tires limit the car quite a bit... But then again, boiling the hides at whim while hearing the elephant sucking down air is a pleasant quality in a car :-)
0 to 60 in 6.9 & 1/4 in 14.1 was darn fast back in 69. And that was done on old bias ply tires. Imagine with todays tire technology what it would run.
I love that these guys only seem to test panther pink cars. Also the vintage lingo is the balls! Sweet video!
MoparViking70 3 weeks ago
@MoparViking70 its just the camera and old film that make it look pink. the car is actually red. they say so in the beginning. i thought it was pink too
carcrusher4x4 2 days ago
425hp or 800hp ? in 1970 donné constructeur ?
hugo69laclasse 1 month ago
I'm almost Seasick watching that thing corner. We had a new 68 Plymouth wagon with 383. Dyno tuned by Wild Bill in Gladstone. Back in the day. The neighbors were luckier with their 442's, Buick GS, GTO's and 396 Chevelles.
stoker20 1 month ago
@stoker20 The '69 GTX cornered pretty well it seems, search "1969 GTX road test" or something like that, it was featured on this same show, seems like it cornered alot better than this charger actually. The GM's of the same era seemed to be alot more "cheaply" built, i've seen a few on this show where they just about rolled over, the tires were falling off the rims etc.
SirKowalski666 1 week ago
Anybody criticizing the performance obtained in these tests should remember this was a test of a bone-stock car, in 1969. With tires from 1969...14" wheels with contact patches about 7.5 inches and undoubtedly bias-ply. Just watching the slo-mo of the 70mph corner reveals that those poor skinny tires were totally overwhelmed by the power & weight of that sled.
operationcastlebravo 2 months ago
Best quarter mile run...14.1. Damn...you must have had a complete MORON driving this car. 14.1 is evident that he had no clue what he was doing. I had both...a 383 version and a hemi version. Even teh 383 version was faster than 14.1. Next time you clowns test drive a car...unhook the trailer and get someone that knows what the hell they are doing.
MotorsbyShooter 2 months ago
@MotorsbyShooter a clue?. did you notice the wimpy tires? the 14.1 time was with the rears roasting half the track
samsdad900 2 months ago
What a beauty!!!! New Chargers suck!!!!!!
RocknLester2011 2 months ago
Do you have any idea where the "track" was that they utilized for testing on this show. It does not look like any road course that was actually used for racing.
olechevy 3 months ago
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"I love it when people reminisce about how cheap things were while forgetting that equally low labor rates were the primary reason."
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I love it when people reminisce about how people remind you that equally low labor rates were the primary reason for low prices BUT FORGET THAT THE STANDARD OF LIVING WAS LESS BECAUSE OF NO INFLATION. Where did inflation come from - ask your nearest UNION representative. He's the guy with a face like a used car saleman.
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These films are great. Thank you for posting.
Toodlem 3 months ago
I got me one of thoes but its not all original. It just got sanded down and where touchin up on some things and just got my door rubbers today. Man she runs nice not street ready yet but its comming. Great vid
grizzly3883 4 months ago
Notice how the guys' voice sounds like the old NFL films. Nobody sounds like that today!!
ClassofEighty2 4 months ago
whattt? i like american but an sti would use and abuse this car like a french whore
keevo2006 4 months ago
0 dislikes:)
santos6394 4 months ago
Everyone who says o man 7 mpg geeze. Remember gas was less then a dollar a gallon or just coming up to a dollar. But I do love these lol. If I had the $ I'd buy one of these charger 500's and race my buddies wrx all damn day to prove cars like this will always beat today's junk lol
Ereyner426 4 months ago
@Ereyner426 In 1969, gas was .39 a gallon in South Jersey.
conrynsilverleaf65 4 months ago
@conrynsilverleaf65
And back then, a $10K per year job was considered "big money." I love it when people reminisce about how cheap things were while forgetting that equally low labor rates were the primary reason.
harddrivin1le 4 months ago
@harddrivin1le My father was a Welder, back in 1969, and brought home between 600-800 a week. Not your 10k a yr job eh? His ride was a 1965 El Camino, and after he blew up the 327 drag racing it, and my Uncle George couldn't afford his Camaro anymore, the limited Edition 402 went into the Camino. Serious muscle there.
Mom's ride? 1964 Chevy II with a 327-4 speed. 350 gross HP. I would miss the bus to school on purpose just to get a ride in that pocket rocket...
conrynsilverleaf65 4 months ago
@harddrivin1le you also forget there was alot less things to spend your money on. No home computers, no internet, no cell phones, ect. How much extra money a month would you have if you took away your cell phone bill, internet bill, cable bill, DVDs (no VCRs or DVD players back then), Netflix, video games, ect. you'd have a few $100 plus more to spend every month at least. makes you think about the crap we buy nowadays that we think we need and can't live without. offsets the lower pay a bit no?
CamaroAmx 2 weeks ago
How the hell is this a sedan? haha
KerryTallwell237 5 months ago
All my life I'd thought only '68's had those headlights. And man -- 7 MPG?
DavePlaysTrombone 5 months ago
why didnt they call it the coronet 500? it takes more from the coronet than the charger. guess its a logistics thing they already had the charger as there race car
gunny426plymouth 5 months ago
With modern day tires, I bet that thing would rape the 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile runs.
dodge69874 6 months ago
Why does he call it a sedan?
brellnob 6 months ago
Death trap
InspireImages 6 months ago
@InspireImages I wouldn't mind dying while drving this thing. It'd be one hell of a way to go.
ACEGAMER120 5 months ago
@InspireImages Death trap compared to what? A civic? Talk about death traps, any year Honda ANYTHING, even the pass port is a death trap. Let me T-Bone your Shit-vic with a 1969 ANYTHING Sedan and see who walks away.
conrynsilverleaf65 4 months ago in playlist conrynsilverleaf65's favorites
@conrynsilverleaf65 Don't take it the wrong way, it is true there is no better way to get an import out of your way then 4000lbs of American Engineering barreling right at them but my point is that much power into a car that can do one thing good which is "Go straight" can be very dangerous to some who cannot restrain themselves. I've driven one before, one of my friends died in one of these. They are a true Tuna Boat.
InspireImages 4 months ago
@InspireImages Oh, I know, I have had a few full size Mopars, and they do handle like tanks.
conrynsilverleaf65 4 months ago
Drum breaks. Sheeesh.
code3paris 6 months ago
The frog eyes ruin it all ... #FAIL
YTmurphy 6 months ago
Looks as nimble and agile as a gazel! I didnt even know about this 69' model Charger. It must have been the early early 69 before they went back to the 68 body shape. I wonder if any of these super rare 69's are still around anywhere? I bet they're worth a MINT LOAD today! Wish i had one.
boltonox 7 months ago
@boltonox If you mean the way the front looks..this is the 500 model. It looks like that.
Jabberdau 6 months ago
@Jabberdau Yeah thats what i meant. I wasn't aware a 69 model came out like that. I always thought all 69's had the split grill look. Learn something everyday i guess, but i don't like the look of the front of the 500. It looks a bit like the 68 or 69 road runner i think. Cheers for that info!
boltonox 6 months ago
and if this video doesnt excite you, check your pants to see if they have shrunk
LexWrestler777 7 months ago
That car was years ahead of the tire tech of the day. I grew up in the 60's and just the word hemi, put fear into GM and Ford guys. How do I know that, I used to own a 62 SS Impala, then a 66 Mustang. It took me until 2005 to own a hemi.
formerice 7 months ago
Too bad they didn't test the 4 spd. instead of the auto.
WorldEffigy 8 months ago
more wheel spin then a vegas roulette table, hahahahaha
mongo0606 8 months ago
7 miles to the gallon.... funny!!!
ludwigking 8 months ago
@ludwigking Hey, it's just a test, they actually got 12-13 and 14-15 with a 440 instead.
F6HemiCharger 7 months ago
Damn, I wonder what times that thing would have put down with a set of modern day tires and a real good driver.
dodge69874 9 months ago
Actually, those are the deep dish wheel covers.
smartfortwodiesel 9 months ago
look at those rims. If i remember right. Those are the recalled alloys.
pigwigpa 9 months ago
is it just me or does it sound like Rod Serling is reviewing this?
nightstrike88 9 months ago
Lol one of the quickest ways Bud Lindemann knows how to do his thing! Yeah umm...when I saw that hood pop it lit my cigar
Mr2stealnutz 10 months ago
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm! That would make 370 hp at the tire with standard 20% hp loss thru the drive train
hemiluver 10 months ago
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm!
hemiluver 10 months ago
Whats up with this thing? It wont let me post the actual 1965 dyno for the 1966 street hemi. Go to allpar.com and do a search and you'll see harddrivins wrong!
hemiluver 10 months ago
Cars back then also ran bias-ply skinnier tires, unlike wider radial tires modern cars use. In other words, they were pretty much skinny truck tires. The only vehicles that use them today are trucks but they are still wider than back then.
tyIerz06 10 months ago
Optimally tuned, production line stock 426 street hemis produced roughly 315 rear wheel HP (on a chassis dyno). That's not a lot of power for a 4,100 lb. car. The claim that 426 street hemis "really made 500 HP" is based solely in urban myth. Chrysler rated the engine at 350 NET HP (the way modern engines are rated), alongside the old 425 "gross" rating in their 1971 literature. The results from the more than 30 vintage hemi road tests I have demonstrate the validity of the 350 HP figure.
harddrivin1le 10 months ago
@harddrivin1le wrong!
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harddrivin1le 10 months ago
0-30 in 2.8. That's slower than the Olds 442 W-30, and 0-60 in 6.9 is (yawn) tame by modern standards.
code3paris 11 months ago
@code3paris true 6.9 is slow but the driver just slammed the pedal to the floor and was the tires tho 2nd gear
jingq2 9 months ago
I believe you aboutv the hp ratings -to a point. I don't think you're lying. Nor do I think the guy in r&d was lying, either. I do believe that the data he gave was incomplete. I base that on every Mopar authority and engineer (including my dad) who ran the numbers. 5,850 rpm saw close to 500 hp -maybe more, with the mechanical lifter version of the 426. 425 hp @5,000 rpm, but approx. 500 hp @ 5,850 rpm.
cincyblows 11 months ago
@cincyblows And that includes Tom Hoover.
cincyblows 11 months ago
69 or 70?
boysvandehood 11 months ago
Oh the bias ply tires...
Fiskaal 11 months ago
JOE DIRT!!!!
Ianoodin 11 months ago
GOD if your thay i would realy love a 1969 DODGE CHARGER if a HEMI 426ci pls
mowat440 1 year ago
Based on other times in this review and other reviews from this same era I think that 0-60 should have been 5.9, not 6.9 seconds.
tomaattikasa 1 year ago
Gross vs Net HP, those old cars were rated gross, the new cars are net.
summitdrinker 1 year ago
0-60 in 6.9, well he couldnt hook up, loved it:)
markmarshall39 1 year ago
6.9 seconds :o
cory2146 1 year ago
very cool car, too bad it and even the more extreme daytona were no match for the boss 429 powered talledega torino or mercury cyclone spoiler, even with all the hype over the hemi and the wings they still usually were watching the rear bumper of the #17, 21 or 98
TheTulsaBoyz 1 year ago
@TheTulsaBoyz Hahahhahahahha thats is a LIE
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@TheTulsaBoyz this is wrong that you say..cause the many winnings of the dodge charger with the 426 hemi engine was the reason why the rules changed an became sharper at the nascar races and this engine finaly stopped being produced..so i think someone else was looking another bumper... :) MOPAR POWER
kostis1969 1 year ago
If that doesn't excite you, then you better check you pulse! XD
DraggingDemons 1 year ago
That was kind of intresting. I had a '69 440 charger for 23 yrs and after tweeking the supenstion a bit it was a fairly good handling car, considering it's size. I also found the mpg rating funny but you have to remeber gas was only 30-50 cents a gallon in 69. Don't think it's a pink car. the video has just degraged over the yrs. Tumbs up for this piece of history!!
skcharger440 1 year ago
Haha, "it only got 7 miles to the gallon, and it was noisy" - that's the best part! He needs a manual trans though...
SeasOfRhye 1 year ago
3:58 Look at that understeer!
NotYour94Ranger 1 year ago
option. 440 avail as well.
scully403 1 year ago
Here's a question for you Mopar heads- Was the Hemi engine standard or an option in the Charger 500? No cheating!
5inthehole 1 year ago
" I think it was going 45mph when we left the line!"..."and that's fast enough to wipe the strips off!" LOL!
5inthehole 1 year ago
' body roll is not excessive' back in that day it was :)
timmie426 1 year ago
NOW THATS A TEST DRIVE
justus9444 1 year ago
is it panther pink? if it is its very rare!
rednecksleder 1 year ago
0-60 ; 6.9s , quarter 14.1s ... poor era tire !
cabaneen 1 year ago
Is this car Panther Pink or is that just bad video quality?
gbales84 1 year ago
give me some raunchy porn music and ill be finished in five minutes... if you catch my drift ; )
1969CHARGERKING 1 year ago
MOPAR RULES!!!!!!!!
phallystorm 1 year ago
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I wonder if that car survived. Could you imagine owning it? Charger 500, 426 Hemi red with white stripe, black interior, power windows, auto with console shift, clock with no tach. How many were made exactly like that. Probably one. Owning that very car would be the coolest thing.
smartfortwodiesel 1 year ago
I wonder if that car survived. Could you imagine owning it? Charger 500, red with white stripe, black interior, power windows, auto with console shift, clock with no tach. How many were made exactly like that. Probably one. Owning that very car would be the coolest thing.
smartfortwodiesel 1 year ago
@smartfortwodiesel Pay attention to what youre looking at. 3:00-3:02, clearly equipped with the tic-toc-tac
68Barracuda11s 1 year ago
Lol, body roll was not excessive....for 1969.
dbc1dc 1 year ago
That really swings, cat!
gregwddriver 1 year ago
not playable on windows 7 boooo!!!
chris33157 1 year ago
Uh oh, now I have a "fire in my gut(tm)" courtesy of those "Hemispherical Combustion Chambers(tm)".
Cash2112 1 year ago
That's true, but IMHO it's like the thing about disc brakes, they were new and of course you would be skeptical about new technology right?
F6HemiCharger 1 year ago
@frontenginedragsterd it was in 69
19mg94 1 year ago
less that 500 were made in 1969, they made Daytonas instead of completing the 500
summitdrinker 1 year ago
thats a 70 not a 69
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp they didnt make a 500 in 70
19mg94 1 year ago
@19mg94 Yes they did???
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp no a 500 was a race built car for circle tracks .they had to build 500 for the public befor they could start racen them. thats why the body is dif there the only one of there kind
19mg94 1 year ago
@19mg94 Yes but there is 70 models my friend has one i know and racen?
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp yes but this is a 69
19mg94 1 year ago
rare rims
DIMEBAGJIMMY426 1 year ago
More wheel spin than a vegas roulette table. lol
mercmarc 1 year ago
All hail the Mighty Charger 500 HEMI! Instant gratification
MrMelodius1 1 year ago
Mmmmmmmmm...that car is beautiful
bobulrich 1 year ago
When cars were supercars and men were men!
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Zach979 Watch '1970 Challenger on the Autobahn' to see one of these 440/6 pack 4-speed cars driven on the German Autobahn--no test times but the enthusiastic owner gets the car to 130 according to the speedo. Not fantastic top speed, but cool to watch. Maybe we can convince him to give us some test numbers?
cyrusloynes 1 year ago
better than top gear!
gunny556fly 1 year ago
Too much wheel spin.
About 1/4 of the car's power is wasted just frying the tires.
charlesvan13 1 year ago
Now you can see why they left the stock tires on the 68 charger that was being chased around San Fransico by steve mcqueen. The 68 mustang had all kinds of work done to it and the charger still held up real ggod against the mustang. When they finished the mustang they drove them around griffith park in L.A. and the charger just pulled away from the mustang. The 440 was just as good if not better than the hemi. The poor ford was just a pig engine. It had alot of potential though.
barmtrail 1 year ago
My god the tires back then were just pathetic!! No 0 to whatever time is accurate for what the car can really do. Now this dodge was truly what the GM and Ford wanted to do. Only GM came close with their cars. Ford just made cars for the secretary. Ford always put too small of a carb or too small ports on their heads. If you own say a 390 hi-po ford nowadays, you can really build it the way it sould have been built, but back in the day, they were pigs!!
barmtrail 1 year ago
This guys' voice is so classic sounding.
irarawkstarr 1 year ago
MoPar Chrysler a government bail out company Our tax dollars hard at work
bluedemon245 1 year ago
@bluedemon245 It wasn't back then...
MovieTech 1 year ago
now this is a road test
a500ponies 1 year ago
the new srt8 challenger would suck the headlights out of that street version wallowing pig. The street hemis didnt have the right components the make those heads really work. Needed headers,cam and Holley carbs to make em really romp!
rockabillyguitarking 1 year ago
I dont know anybody that had this car--Insurance rates were high--thats why!! I do know this car was THE car to have then and now--especially with 525hp-real hp under the hood. Dont believe the 425hp that was advertised by Chrysler. The new Hemi cars dont even have a rats ass chance of going up against this car, not even the power come close to the 426 Hemi motor and 2 4bbls.
BNforever2009 1 year ago
@BNforever2009 You got it backwards, the 426 hemi doesn't stand a rat's ass chance against the new hemi engines. As installed under the hood the engine in the Challenger SRT8 makes 425, in the RT 372 or 376 I could be off a bit. The 426 hemi made 350. It even made less torque than those new engines. The torque was 390. Nevermind the fact the 426 is a lot heavier too.
Mikejesmike 1 year ago
@Mikejesmike By the gross rating, the 426 Hemi produced close to 500 hp, not the 425 advertised. I'm not sure what that translates into by today's hp rating, but it certainly would not be a slouch.
cincyblows 11 months ago
@cincyblows The gross hp is irrelevent, doesn't matter if it was really 500 although in my book regarding a chapter dealing with the engine and if the engine was deliberately overrated or underrated it was truth in advertising "The factory rating for the street hemi of 425 horsepower was right on", Ted Flack recalls from his days in the dynamometer labs. "When we did a scuff test, we'd fire up a green engine-no hours on it-and run it at max horsepower for two hours.
Mikejesmike 11 months ago
@Mikejesmike (continued) Those things made 425 horsepower like clockwork." So you see it was 425 gross, the guy has NO REASON to lie about it. So it measures up nicely with with the net drop-figure 50-85 hp loss from gross for most engines.
gross rating 425 hp 490 lb ft
today's net rating 350 hp 390 lb ft loss of 75 hp, totally within range of a gross to net drop.
The engine is definitely not a slouch at 350 but it's not the firebreather it's made out to be, back then it was, but not today.
Mikejesmike 11 months ago
@Mikejesmike Um no, the engine produced 425 hp @ 5,000 rpm. How much did it produce at 5,800 rpm? Very different story. Very close to 500.
cincyblows 11 months ago
@cincyblows So? It doesn't matter, it got 350 net. But keep in mind what I mentioned-one of the people that was there during the testing of the engine said that the rating was accurate, why would he lie about it? What would he gain? This being decades after the fact. Is he getting paid by Chrysler to keep the mystique of the 426 hemi being underrated alive anytime he's being interviewed? What does he or chrysler gain by lying? They don't build it anymore or make a profit from it.
Mikejesmike 11 months ago
I find it hilarious that people think these old Hemi cars werent that fast from the factory, or did have much potential, or the 440 powered cars were faster.
Sure in some cases. For a guy that had the car and couldnt do any kind of tuning.
I mean simply putting a advance timing curve into these cars would make much more power. Add headers, and do some intake mods, tune the carbs, rework the timing curve.
Not a car on the road would come close to touching it. ..
maximumwedgehead 1 year ago
@maximumwedgehead ls6 chevelle
88irocztpi 1 year ago
@maximumwedgehead
If anything, the sheer lack of tyre technology and the wallowing suspensions set-ups did little to help put the power to the ground. As much as I love these old non-PC muscle cars, they don't come close to modern cars' gearing, power curves and grip.
Samsgarden 1 year ago
Few HEMI chargers were built, that few that were ended up on the NASCAR tracks
at Riverside or elsewhere.
cabraden1 1 year ago
What a slice of reality. Back when musclecars were driven by car guys instead of being gawked at by investors.
69HemiGTX 1 year ago
also those power windows added weight, they weighed way more than power windows do now
summitdrinker 1 year ago
LOL, Why didn't these guys try to launch the car withOUT burning the tires. It's like they wanted to burn the tires all they could every time. They could gotten better times if they worked at it. The hemi doesn't have massive amounts of low Rpm torque like a 440 six pack did.
summitdrinker 1 year ago
Mostly
Old
People
And
Rednecks
:D
psychoclown420 1 year ago
@psychoclown420
FORD - FOUND ON ROAD DEAD, FIX OR REPAIR DAILY
GMC - GARAGE MAN'S COMPANION
CHEVROLET - CAN HAVE EXTREMELY VARIABLE RELIABILITY OR LIMITED ENGINE TORQUE.
cabraden1 1 year ago
@cabraden1 Nice!! the only ones i had heard of were the ford ones :D
psychoclown420 1 year ago
@cabraden1 don't slam Ford, they did not need a bailout that cost the taxpayers dearly.
Bag0fRats 1 year ago
@cabraden1 Mopar= My Old Pig Almost Runs.. Or....Made Of Plastic And Rubber
Found
On
Road
Dead.
Frequent Overhaul Rapid Depreciation.
TechMaven 1 year ago
I love these videos and I love these cars. It's interesting to see how much of that power was lost through to inadequate tyres and saggy, rolling suspension. Not to mention the crappy brakes. Yet, they deemed this a great handling car? Times were different then 'eh? You've got to love the fact that big cars with vast amounts of overhang were the preferred choice.
Samsgarden 1 year ago
14.1 in the quarter, imagine if they knew how to make tires back then, it definitely would have been a low-mid 13 sec car. not to mention a much lower 0-60, look at that wheel spin :P
bigmax88 1 year ago
@bigmax88 The street Hemi was also ridiculously detuned so that it was actually a dog off the showroom flow.
But there is a reason the mopar Hemi dominates in NHRA. In the hands of a knowledgable person, 500 horses EASY from a Hemi.
mongoose704 1 year ago
1969 Dodge Charger 500, with the 426 Hemi engine Automatic transmission and power everything! I wonder how much one like this is worth?
kridley73 1 year ago
7 miles to the gallon!!!!
StoneCold75 1 year ago
To bad that the 426 hemi off the factory floor does 812!!!! horsepower at the flywheel
GrateMilenko 1 year ago
Holly Shit look at 3:06 to 3:12 it's apower window car!!!!
F6HemiCharger 1 year ago
@F6HemiCharger Really! you don't see that too often.
kridley73 1 year ago
@kridley73 Actually, No, power windows were $105.20 in 1969 which was alot of money for a car and I mean who would trust it, manual windows were more reliable back then.
F6HemiCharger 1 year ago
@F6HemiCharger I think I heard back then you would rather have a Cadillac or Lincoln with power windows than a Chevy or Dodge. Not like today where every car or truck has power something comes standard across the board.
kridley73 1 year ago
Ronnie Sox got low 11s in a '69-1/2 6bbl 4-speed Road Runner back in the day, and they run 10s today in F.A.S.T. class racing, all with the skinny bias plies. I'm getting 9MPG in my '69 Charger R/T. Those are not the cast wheels, by the way. Those are hub caps. The cast wheels are being reproduced now.
pinkkomkommer 1 year ago
I thought Ronnie Sox ran like a 12.97 with a stock 6 BBl Road Runner back in the day. Low 11's.....with 400hp and 3,700lbs? I dunno about that. And the F.A.S.T cars are often 500ci, 14:1 compression, lightened bodies, and all out racing engines that appear stock. Big difference. I own an original 70 440-6 Cuda, and it will run very low 13's/high 12's at very best.
greenfruitface 1 year ago
those cast wheels are SUUUUPER rare. They were recalled literally days after they were released. if you have a set, you just won the lottery !
ProfessorIgor 2 years ago
no ABS - Sliddddddddde
BMAN294 2 years ago
ABS ?? in `69 ?? Another Bad Skid = ABS !
ProfessorIgor 2 years ago
"Rebel Country"
impala666 2 years ago
'Excellent handling'
Comedy gold!
Samsgarden 2 years ago
lol leaf springs and live axle at the back.
Awesome car.
eltotoX 2 years ago
I remember this show from speed channel!
FATMIKED5183 2 years ago
Its a shame the tyres back then had no grip. Put some of todays sticky tyres on it and would probably be running hi 12s to low 13s in the quarter.
matrox 2 years ago
tires back then are actually better for drag racing than radials
AGTW31 2 years ago
@AGTW31 yep those tires were better in someways than people think. but still the car is limited in performance by the tires. this includes cornoring, braking and traction off the line.
summitdrinker 1 year ago
drive this at 7 mpg or a hummer at the same mpg
chevycamaro1976 2 years ago
@chevycamaro1976 thats under test conditions. Car Life if I remember correctly got 14.5 mpg from a 426 Hemi C500 with a 4-speed.
F6HemiCharger 2 years ago
@F6HemiCharger my dad had a 71 charger hemi back in 1975 and he said it would get under 10 mpg
chevycamaro1976 2 years ago
@chevycamaro1976 So... That's a different car and it would have a big air holding grille.
Also it depends on how you drive it.
F6HemiCharger 2 years ago
well am not such about that but all 426 hemi(425hp) from 68-to the last year 1971 were pretty much the same only difference was probably size of vehicle and some other stuff and what other way to drive a hemi but with your foot on the gas. It does not matter if it gets 2 mpg or 20 i'll still drive it and enjoy it. My name says chevy but am more into mopars.
chevycamaro1976 2 years ago
this video sound like those old videos you had to watch in school great vid
iceman27406 2 years ago
We must account for the fact the tires back then are incomparable to the tires we have today.
With better traction, you can easily harness the full power of the HEMI!!!
Also on a side note: It sounds exactly like the charger from Bullitt.
firebat42 2 years ago
7mpg. Who cares ? Its a Mopar.
ChargerLS71 2 years ago
"More wheelspin than a Las Vegas roulette table".
hamtrak 2 years ago
I can imagine that those tires limit the car quite a bit... But then again, boiling the hides at whim while hearing the elephant sucking down air is a pleasant quality in a car :-)
UFO29 2 years ago
7mpg. Seven. Miles. Per Gallon. Yikes.
Looks like it had a clock where the tach should be.
mustangcharger 2 years ago
Look Closer - The clock is IN the tach. Hipsters used to call it the Tick-Tock Tach.
The clock is in the center, while an outer ring surrounding the clock is the tach. AMC, Oldsmobile, Buick - many corporations used a similar setup.
The redline is easily visible in the video.
DiscoKat 2 years ago
Damn shame that Chargers were too heavy to produce faster 1/4 mi. times. Having owned a '68 R/T at one time, nothing beats the look, except the heft.
rrcccop 2 years ago
0 to 60 in 6.9 & 1/4 in 14.1 was darn fast back in 69. And that was done on old bias ply tires. Imagine with todays tire technology what it would run.
GerryK61 2 years ago
Who wouldn't accelerate a permanent smile on their face with 425hp under their right foot and a TorqueFlite in their right hand?
F6HemiCharger 2 years ago