"Dropping Missile Defense Shield Was A Message To Iran" Hillary Clinton Interview pt.1

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I Believe This Was A Video Clip Of PBS-TV's The Newshour With Jim Lehrer's Report On Part 1 Of "Dropping Missile Defense Shield Was A Message To Iran" Hillary Clinton Interview On Monday Evening, September 21, 2009.

[kropla56]

poland beltrayed

[boots920]

Unjust - No Win war - Sound familiar like Vietnam ?

Look how that war ended , suddenly 60,000 patriots died for nothing.

[nubbs]

here's the difference - the government of vietnam never attacked the united states, where the government of afghanistan did

here's another difference - the government of vietnam wasn't going to murder those who fought or helped the americans, where the taliban, if allowed back in power, will murder everyone who did not actively support the taliban

here's another difference - vietnamese women were allowed to walk in public without a male chaperon, were allowed to go to school, etc

[nubbs]

based on every standard of just war theory - from augustine to kant to clauswitz - the war in afghanistan, which is sanctioned by the united nations and being fought by NATO against the most despicable thugs, is a just war.

and it can easily be won, with more troops. russia had almost 200,000 troops. NATO barely has 60,000. and NATO, unlike russia, or the US in vietnam, IS preventing civilian causalities, which makes fighting hard when the taliban hide like cowards in civilian areas

[justsomeoneallen]

When genius has a super power ever won an asymmetrical war? How did the zionist kick out the British? etc ad nausium. I have been online since 1985 and I will never understand people who can only prove they are uneducated voluntarily do it.

[nubbs]

"I have been online since 1985"

LOL try getting a life

"...the Taliban we actually created them"

LOL try pakistan, moron (which, btw, they openly admit and regret) (even chomsky writes that pakistan created them)

anyone who thinks the US and not pakistan created the taliban is an idiot and not worth the time an educated person such as myself

[nubbs]

ps

change your name to:

justsomeonestupid

[justsomeoneallen]

If you will change your name to numbnuts.

[nubbs]

i dont think i person in your position, what his extensive spinal damage, should be using the words "numb nuts", at least not without a bit or irony.

(that was a joke - please dont get mad. it was just too hard to resist - though im not sure what your condition has to do with anything, nor spending 25 years on the internet)

and which brzezinski? the daughter on msnbc (which we also dont get in canada) or the papa who supports the war in afghanistan?

[justsomeoneallen]

I am disabled you moron. Devote your life to curing extensive spinal damage and I will try to get a life. Brzezinski. Ever heard of him? If not you are not as educated as you would like to believe.

[boots920]

"the government of vietnam never attacked the united states, where the government of afghanistan did"

Which citizens of Afghanistan attacked the USA ?

No charges of 911 crimes according to the FBI ?

"here's another difference - vietnamese women were allowed to walk in public without a male chaperon, were allowed to go to school, etc"

What right does the US have to police the world when their own society doesn't meet their own standards ?

The US can't even take care of their own citizens?

[nubbs]

bin laden is a citizen of afghanistan (not saudia arabia, which took his citizenship away and sent him off to sundan)

bin laden declared war on the US in 1998, from afghanistan, with the support of the taliban

the idea he has not been charged by the fbi is a fabrication and a myth. he IS charged for financing and helping organize the plot (as well as the cole and the kenyan/tanzanian embassies)

the US has every right to protect itself from being attacked again (thus the UN sanctioned mission)

[boots920]

Bin Laden isn't a citizen of Afganistan ?

If Bin Laden declared war on the US in 1998 why did the states wait till 2001 to invade the sandbox.

FBI - web site no charges on Bin Laden for 911

Now how come the US invaded Iraq and turned it into a parking lot. 1.2 million dead civilians (Genocide)

1970 - Secret bombing of Cambodia (2 million dead)

Genocide

When did Cambodia attack the USA, you guys are idiots.

[nubbs]

yes, bin laden is a citizen of afghanistan

yes, he declated war on the US in 1998 from afghanistan

yes, he funded the attacks on the USS cole, kenyan and tanzanian embassies thereafter

yes, he has been charged for this. he become #1 on FBI most wanted list in 1998

yes, the US attacked his base (al qaida mean base in arabic, smart guy) in afghanistan in 1998, and tried to kill several time after that before 9/11 (risk of civilian casulaties prevented them)

no, i dont support iraq war

[nubbs]

and if you really care to know, iran is responsible for 90% of the chaos and murder in iraq since august of 2003.

iran funds the shia militias who cause most of the violence. saudi sunni came in to fight the shia. eventually the sunnis sided with the us (al qaida is sunni).

since overthrowing saddam, the US has only been trying to restore order.

i never supported war in iraq, and the US should have known they would unlease a sunni shia civil war, but the US is not "leveling" the iraq

[boots920]

Ever hear of Blackwater ? Pat Tillman ?

So what are you idiots doing in Iraq ?

How come the Iraqi people have to pay with their lives and country just because you have a war criminal running the USA ? Torture, Genocide you idiots are real sweet hearts.

[nubbs]

look amy goodman, blackwater is NOT operating in afghanistan. the UN & NATO are

pat tilman was against the war in iraq, not afghanistan. he was a great player with the cardinals, and died in friendly fire fighting the barbaric taliban who helpled plan the attack against the innocent people of new york. what's your point?

genocide? maybe by the sunnis against the shia and the shia against the sunni, but there is no genocide by the americans. its the taliban that want genocide, you moron

[nubbs]

it is obvious you are some ignorant little kid who thinks its cool to hate on american foreign policy and lack the sophistication to diferentiate between afghanistan/taliban/al qaida and iraq. i guess YOU are just like the neo cons - iraq and afghanistan are the same thing.

im smart enough to know afghanistan is a just war and iraq is not. if you dont think afghan is a just war, you are either evil or stupid, and a tacit supporter of the taliban and al qaida. leave the US if you wont protect it

[nubbs]

and dont bother responding to, because i will not read anything you write.

you need to spend more time learning and less time spewing nonsense on the internet.

i hope when we leave afghanistan and the taliban takes control again and al qaida attacks the us again YOU are the one who gets killed

now piss off. you've been schooled

[justsomeoneallen]

Made hundreds if not thousands of videos against Bush. FAIL! You should not read anything else I write your self esteem although unjustified will suffer.

[justsomeoneallen]

It is theoretically possible that I could be schooled but I am gong to need someone with more credibility than your happy ass has to make a case for it before I waste much time thinking about it,

[justsomeoneallen]

Regurgitating what you have memorized from Fox "news" I see. That does not surprise me. 25 thousand jews live in Iran protected by article 3 of their constitution, The strict sect of Shia they practice has no tolerance for collateral damage. Something the US needs to learn.

[nubbs]

we dont get fox news in canada. and if we did, i would still keep watching bbc world.

if you think there is more religious tolerance in iran than in the US i would kindly direct you to the amnesty international website (or the freedom house rankings, if amensty is too liberal for you)

[justsomeoneallen]

Idiot! We had no problem with the Taliban we actually created them. We did not give a rats ass about how they treated women. Quote from Clinton when briefed. " I can live with that".

[BOBSMOKETV]

Why are we killing those people?

[justsomeoneallen]

The Taliban refused the final offer from UNOCAL of 12.5 million British Pounds to protect a proposed natural gas pipeline.

[nubbs]

you get all your info from michael moore docs, or do you read any books by actual scholars?

change your name to justsomeonestupid

[justsomeoneallen]

Did Moore make a documentary about this? Google Taliban UNOCAL and see if you can find a source you trust.

[nubbs]

because those people believe in kafir.

do you know what kafir is?

it means those people believe god allows them to kill all christians and all americans and all muslims who do not agree with their islamism

those people are the most evil people on the planet - imagine pat robertson with an army of suicide bombers

[justsomeoneallen]

Could it be at least theoretically possible that Unocal did not offer enough money to convince them to sell out to multinational corporations interest? The Taliban don't seem to care about opium so why do you think they care about kafir? You lost me so what right wring web sites do you allow to give you the opinions you regurgitate instead of doing the research you could easily have done with the info I gave you?

[BOBSMOKETV]

@nubbs = So according to you we're killing them for what they believe in? Thought crimes. Not for what they do.

[nubbs]

depends on who "them" refers to. if them is al qaeda, it is for declaring war on and attacking the west first. if them is the taliban, it is for seeking a return to power where they can again give al qaida safe haven

what they "believe in" in the death of all americans, no matter what those americans think or who those americans support politically

but they "do" plenty, like killing red cross/crescent aid workers, and throwing acid into the faces of 12 year old girls trying to go to school