how to sound like eddie van halen ( brown sound ) 5150 for beginners part 2

[RDB5150]

When you play the solos what pedals do you go to?

[jcayer2]

Thanks for the demo !!! You are reallt into EVH :)

[okamasphere]

I thought that first rack unit gets rid of the hum...

[PennaPlanum]

But was he playing that guitar when the 5150 was around? Isn't it a newer amp?

[mapleblackdrums]

It sounds too bright to me.

[grr619]

Great work with the gear, dude. Nice job and it sounds wicked. 8-)

[TheDarwiniser]

05:20

fuck yeah.

dead on sound.

great job.

[thedickiesman]

I agree with the "crapy guitar" good amp combo theory, but I think a better way to put it in this situation is; Ed's ash body guitar was wired through a volume control only, no capacitors, therefore extra tone reenforcement is obviously required. The acoustic tone of his guitar was for shit, but the hidden tonalities extenuated by choice amplification methods are legendary. ie..marshall plexi-heads, the omite variac(cranked), string of mxrs--dist, delay, phase, eq, flang and i think that was it.

[MrIvanHalen]

"Eddie guitar was a piece of crap".

I pissed myself with this one.

[Espligo]

Does you wife know what your doing in your garage?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@Espligo of course, she helps out!

[lukegunnlee1988]

i was always told his guitars were made of poplar 

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@lukegunnlee1988 the kramer bodies were usually poplar. his frankenstrat was ash, the wolfgang was basswood.

[Sean2592]

@lukegunnlee1988 original frankie ash, 5150, poplar when you get to the other reps i'm not sure, i've heard the shark was basswood, the star guitar was ash, after that i'm not sure

[thatcoolG]

what was the second song you played when you were talking about how bright the amp was?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@thatcoolG order was panama, touch of "drop dead legs", atomic punk, aint talkin bout love, atomic punk, cabo wabo, etc.

[danachonda]

tomic Punk off the 1st album

[0458FEO]

only 8 important keys to sound.distortion or clean,reverb,chorus,flange,or delay,and personnal strumming and fingering styles.AND most important is RYTHEM.peace.

[0458FEO]

sounds good,but my carvin sx-200 has built in effects sounds just as good as all the expensive digital gear and gadgets.my opnion ,but u sound good,peace.

[dewycatt2112]

Haaaa". Your right dude! Eddie made it so that his amps would do ALL the work. Later...........

[18266609]

lmao the sounds dead on good job

[Fernandez3995]

Ok so I have a fender standard stratocaster. The pickups are SSS as compared to HSS. What kind of bridge pickup could I use being that I can't use a Seymour Duncan on my strat?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@Fernandez3995 you can use a seymour duncan on a strat. they make single coil size dual coil humbuckers. a safe bet would be the little 59'. i use to get some really good tones from that pick up.

[Fernandez3995]

@WillsEasyGuitar oh alright thanks

[its0black0magic]

@Fernandez3995 Is it an american made strat? Becesue if it is take a look under the pickguard. Some models are already made for H-S-S H-S-H Or eaven H-H-H

[xntrickk]

nice tone, great demo...

[btwine2001]

how do you tighten the springs and great review!!

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@btwine2001 on the back of the body, take off the plastic cover and you will see the springs. there should be 2 screws that you can tighten or loosen. just remember, when you tighten it, the strings will go sharp and they will need to be tuned again before you try to adjust the spring tension further.

[CoffeeDrinker71]

@WillsEasyGuitar That's true in a sense....however, those screws are meant to adjust the action/height of the bridge. If you over-tighten, your bridge will be pulled backed too far and not sit flush. If it's not tight enough, the bridge will lunge forward and the action will be too high as a by-product. In other words, it's to dial in the set up and then left alone.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@CoffeeDrinker71 the screws that adjust the height / action are the posts that the front edge of the tremolo hits (the ones next to the bridge pickup) the springs are to match string tension. granted, if the posts are high on the trem, adjusting the springs will affect the action and height. also, if the springs are not tight enough, the trems rear raises and raises the height and action. Those are side effects of the springs, but not their true purpose.

[helimech60]

Why so many people want to sound and play like someone else is beyond me.Sounds good though.

[sw1tched]

@helimech60 cause it's the best guitar tone ever created or heard from the best guitarist who ever lived

[landers1984]

I think the reason it sounds better with the ash/maple combo strat and not with wolfgang or les paul is that the frankenstrat is a bright sounding guitar. Naturally.

Hence why the bass heavy 5150 sounds great with it. Also the correct phaser woudl be the 74 reissue one or script phase 90

[MorganBucks]

Sweet.

[jhinson411]

If you played that rig out in a club people would definately get van halen vibe! When your this close in rig tone the rest would just be solid playin.

[abelfierroIII]

Talk less and play more...

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@abelfierroIII Talk less and suck my nuts...

[espltdguitarlover]

excellent video.. great equipment... i agree with the limitations of the camera and how the signal compresses when you up load a video..

[Sean2592]

man your definitely there as far as tone goes i myself just felt like maybe you need to back off the low end a hair, or use something to brighten up perhaps but this is by far the closest i've heard to Ed's sound, what delay pedal is that exactly?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@Sean2592 the sound that everyone hears on here is different than what it really sounds like. the camera can only pick up so much, then when i transfer it to the computer it takes away, then when i transfer it to youtube even more is changed. but the pedal is a digi-delay from digitech.

[Sean2592]

@WillsEasyGuitar I figured as nice of a setup as you had you would have it mic'd up, my mistake. But oh ya your definitely right, on the taking away part man. Thank's for the advice on the delay pedal, i always thought a true bypass analog pedal would be the way to go but i'll certainly try out that one

[TheOfficialKreW]

what song were u playing in the very beggining before aint talkin bout love

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@TheOfficialKreW probably "atomic punk" or "cabo wabo", "black and blue", "somebody get me a doctor"...i did it a few times in there.

[skylineXpert]

can you do a video where you show the tuning of strings, because i bought a kramer pacer classic series yesterday, and since i havent learned to tame the floyd rose trem, then maybe you could give a advice, im new to guitar stuff like playing for instance

[xntrickk]

nice tones

[5150RDH]

Really nice tones, great upload*****Gotta love those 5150s :D

[SanEverett]

Nice tone but looks like least 2500+ worth of gear..Not really for beginners I don't think.

But you got one of the best Eddie tones I've heard,hats off to ya bro!!

[Antimoralism]

Good Presentation, Bad sound :)

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@Antimoralism yeah, the video camera cant handle the amps output even at low levels. it takes so much away.

[Jst0911]

good video man. i was just trying to figure out what to use to sound like him, (reverb, delay, phase) and you showed it slowed down. but for a gear junkie, other users probably like this vid too

[RasputinsFate]

Too much hum noise bro......NIce presentation though.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@RasputinsFate yeah, the 5150 is really noisy. this is with two power filters and extra grounding rods. when i use the jsx, you can hardly tell its on.

[stripes5150]

@WillsEasyGuitar extra grounding rods? you mean you pounded 2 rods into the ground outside? if you did, you are getting circulating ground currents from your rods and the house ground....hmmmm

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@stripes5150 it doesnt work that way. im a licensed general contractor, i know what im doing. when the main box has two grounding rods, a ground loop will not happen because the mains ground potential is in a parallel and acts as one huge ground. most homes are grounded by a rod + cold water supply + rebar in concrete. obviously more than one ground is the norm...ground loops happen when you have two ground sources from things plugged in. i.e. get ground from chassis + wall + shielding cable.

[stripes5150]

@WillsEasyGuitar I'm a licenced journeyman electrician and it can happen dude...IF you plug into the system ground PLUS bond your gear to an external ground rod independent of your main...It can get noisy and you can get a bad shock....Been there done that and learned the hard way before I went to College...lol

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@stripes5150 i dont have dual grounds like that. im saying at the main i have multiple grounds.

[stripes5150]

@WillsEasyGuitar Understood...

[landers1984]

Treble city!

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@landers1984 the video takes aot of sound away.

[ItsGrantCasual]

I WANT UR GUITAR!!!! BUT SRSLY, WHAT PARTS DID YOU ADD TO UR GUITAR TO MAKE IT LOOK AND SOUND LIKE THAT?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@ItsGrantCasual i go over everything in part 1 of this video

[beeeastmaster]

lame video. you'd probably eat Eddie's fart if he asked you too.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@beeeastmaster how could i when your head is in the way sucking his nuts?

[SanEverett]

@WillsEasyGuitar What the?...LOL

[johnsone7777]

i like atomic punk, cabo wabo, black n blue. everything else is just like my 5150 amp. limiting in tone.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@johnsone7777 the 5150 is something that is limited, no doubt. its like a farm tractor. it serves its purpose for its specific job, but you wouldnt want to pick a date up in it. thats why i usually use a jsx..its like a pickup truck...multi use both off and on the farm.

[jayou812a]

Eddie's guitar is a piece of crap because the guitar it self has only a small part of the tone.Most of the tone is pickups amp/ head and speaker combination.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@jayou812a what most people seem to forget or not notice is a large portion of tone comes from the way the person plays. the persons hands, how tight they grab, etc. many people have played with ed's gear before and they all say they didnt sound like eddie, but themselves. this is because the gear is over emphasized and if you dont sound like your favorite guitarist, its because youre not them.

[jayou812a]

@WillsEasyGuitar Yes your also right but I think we should all strive to sound different than our favorite guitar player.Even when I do covers I don't copy the solo I try to put as much as me in there as possible.I'm just after tone not Ed's or anybody's my own.I even constructed my own speaker cabnet and matched the pickups with the speakers,I like to tinker.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@jayou812a i agree. it took me years to realize i need to find my own sound.

[jayou812a]

@WillsEasyGuitar Ya, I realized that about a year ago and been chasing tone and it's been driving me crazy.

One day when I was fooling around with tone it confused me,sort of knocked me out of my mind for a bit.I didn't think that tone could do that.A day after that strange moment of confusion it seemed clear to me that tone has a huge impact on not only the player but the listener too.

[DumbleHRM]

Nice Job!

[ste528]

Everything I've read about the intro ti Ain't Talking states that it's a flanger and that Ed steps on a Phaser for the lead. This is also in the official tab book for VH 1

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@ste528 you can use either because they kind of work along the same lines. unless you have a mxr flanger, youre going to have a really hard time making it sound right. todays flangers suck.

[AbrubtParadox]

that lead is sexy man, nice job!!

[joshua0226]

Hmm can I get a great early van halen sound with a jcm 800 4104 combo? it sounds like a hot rodded plexi to me, u should also do a video on the frankenstrat sanding and finish

[AtomicPunk3]

@joshua0226

You'd get closer to the brown sound with a JCM 800 than with a 5150, that's for sure!

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@joshua0226 the jcm should do really well for earlier VH but the 5150 is best for the Sammy era. Im sure the JCM would do just fine for that too. The 5150 IMO isnt very versitile..thats why i have a JSX.

[Polentaccio]

Thanks for the response.. I'm aware of mic placement for sure! What interests me is that i get the sound recorded that I want but not the sound I want when i am standing in front of the amp/cab. Like you, i used to have standard cheapo Marshall speakers but they sounded great! I get these G12H30's and greenbacks and they don't sound good to my ear at all when i stand in front of them. I think what it is , is that higher powered (wattage) speakers stay tighter and cleaner.

[Polentaccio]

How about another important factor..speakers? I personally like you found that the key to a lot of these VH tunes is to kill the bass and bring out the scratchy highs. I think my tone is pretty good recorded but I just can't get into it when standing in front of the cab. Greenbacks are fizzy it seems. What speakers or pairings do you have in your cab?

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@Polentaccio well, im not sure if i mentioned it in the video, but location is important. where your mic is and where you stand, change how the sound is heard. i often fool around with my amp and effects thinking i have a great sound, but when i step away and back from it, it sounds way different. you have to continnually step back and listen from a distance to really key in your sound. In the video, Im using cheapie 4x12 ibanez speakers.

[CobraGTXNoS]

I would not say Eddie's Frankenstrat is a crappy guitar. It may have been built weird, but holy crap, once you hear it in his old sound. You go, holy crap, this is a beauty.

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@CobraGTXNoS from a luthiers perspecitve, his guitar is junk. everything about it was MaGyvered and it was built with substandard parts. facts are facts. ed's fingers and technique is what created the sound not his guitar. thats why its so hard to mimic it. he could make a wal mart "fist act" guitar sound good.

[CobraGTXNoS]

@WillsEasyGuitar Yeah, I guess so. But I like his guitar. It is unique.

[takeuchitb007]

@WillsEasyGuitar this is the exact thing many people overlook, it's his hands and style that make the sound.. Ed sounds like Ed on any guitar and any amp.. People have been chasing his sound for decades but the real sound lies in the hands..

[VanHalenWorshiper]

the evh phaser setting should be 9:00 or on the slowest speed, your tone is amazing but the phaser is too fast

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@VanHalenWorshiper i usually keep it around 10 because it is my happy medium. sometimes, depending on what other effects you use with it, you have to change the settings. flangers in my rig kill the mxr phase 90.

i watched some of your videos and was suprized by the sound you got from berhinger effects... well played.

[evhfrankie]

@WillsEasyGuitar Is The Floyd Hard To Push Down?!?!

[WillsEasyGuitar]

@evhfrankie compared to my ibanez, yes. but you get used to it. his wolfgangs are like that. the springs are very tight, but its part of the sound.

[reditreefrogs]

Cool video...I made a replica frankenstrat from a fender basswood body and fender maple neck/maple fret board...Installed a vintage 59 pick up...