@TheReadyGamer For lessons? If you're not taking formal lessons, then look for sites that demonstrate the technique without getting technical. I don't really know any offhand, but search key words like 'polyrhythm', 'drum rudiments' 'paradiddle' even 'drum training' to see what else is out there. As for formal written lessons, there are a ton of sites. But some of them require a download of their worksheets. Good luck!
@TheReadyGamer Thank you so much. I have to buy my sticks online, because most music stores, (even the Guitar Center), do not carry the Quantum 7000's that I love. I usually buy them by the dozen.
@chopzmasta07 Congratulations again, Joey! But it was YOU who did all the work. I simply provided some simple suggestions. It's what people DO with these suggestions, (and those from others), that matters. You applied yourself. Let THAT be the lesson for others to learn from this!
Thats one amazing training video you have man! top notch! I used most of those for finger and wrist strength in the past but that last trick for switching fingers, that is pure awesomeness
@rolandvp Thanks! It's mostly common-sense stuff to push yourself harder. This video is about basics in strength and speed. They get more involved as you go. Alot of the technique in the later videos, about independence and such, took me years to develop in myself. So I don't recommend rushing through them--unless you know it already of course. My execution in these videos is obviously not perfect, (because I'm not!) but the theories are still sound, imo. Take what you need and discard the rest
That was really what I needed. Thank you. There is no other video on youtube which shows the basics about gaining skills as clear as you do. Keep on making videos...:)
@bigb992 Thanks! Glad it helped. Just took a common sense approach, and tried to include all the things I did while learning--without taking lessons. (However, I do recommend taking lessons if you can.)
Some great tips dave . What caught my eye was your lenny white- RTF cover
.Excellent !. How about some good ways to really get the double stroke roll going . From your set up it's hard for me to tell .Are you left handed or just ambidextrous.
@TheChiFlows Thanks! I guess, for the double-stroke, just building up power and speed in each hand individually probably goes a long way towards better doubles. Also, in the 2nd Training video, I did some snare exercise for chops. How about the one accenting the 2nd stroke of the double (rR, lL) to build strength? And I'm right-handed, who just plays lefty. (I thought that drums should be set up like fretboards or keyboards, with notes descending to the left). Apparently, I was wrong!
Really interesting mate ;) good idea playing with the palm on the table gluing (?) the heel of the palm, and the stuff with clubs, where did u buy that big sticks?? :)
@KillerDrummer88 Thanks. Yeah, just a collection of little tricks and exercises that I used to help develop skills. I bought those big sticks in Home Depot. They were wooden dowels, NOT meant to be used as drumsticks!
It couldn't hurt, right? These are some of the things I've done over the years to work on my development. Some may be helpful, some not. Some are basic techniques, others more advanced, so don't expect to absorb it all right away in either case. Also, I'm not trying to TEACH anyone anything here. I'm just showing how I trained physically to play the drums. Use what you agree with. Discard the rest. Everyone has their own regimen, I suppose. Good luck!
I have been looking for this for so long, thank you for all that great advice. I'm a drummer and also a Doumbek player, I do a lot of the bare hands on pillows, but the dowel ideas are what really caught my attention. Recently I've been trying to develop my hand speed because I'm getting into the fastest drummer comps. What is the best excersice you got to develop my hand speed
Thanks and you're welcome! Your 990 beats per minute on the drumometer (495 x2) is incredibly fast already, (assuming that you don't have a big drop-off in speed during the 2nd 30 seconds). Don't forget that it took quite awhile for someone to break the 1000 bpm barrier. Just work on the strength exercises for duration, and finger exercises for speed. Measure your progress on your drumometer. But push for longer sessions--45, 60, 90, 120 seconds, so that 60 becomes easy and without speed loss.
How often do you advice to change the thickness of the sticks while training? Do you train with the big sticks first for 5 minutes and then change or would you be more likely to train with them for a whole day and then change for thinier the day after?
I would warm up first with your regular sticks for about 15 minutes, then switch to the heavier ones so you don't strain yourself. Use them for as long as you want to. But stop if your hands feel tired and/or sore. Don't overdo it. Don't start out with too much weight. You could do damage to yourself. A simple rule is to just use something heavier on the pad, and your regular stick on the set. Good luck!
You could probably use those for as long as you want. Just watch out for cramping, because you will have to use different muscles. If you're not used to the new grip, your hands could cramp up. Stop playing every 5 minutes, and just stretch out your fingers and relax your hands. As long as you're properly warmed up, you shouldn't have any problems.
Did you just start that channel to trash other players in anonymity? Your recent activity shows you attacking other drummers, (even though one guy had a 5 star rating after 491 ratings!) But I guess you know better than everyone else, (yet are too afraid to post your own work!) The only videos you do like are of video games. Which shows that you are just some little insecure kid. Grow up. And quit attacking people for trying to help other people. It's punks like you that ruin YouTube.
I love how Dave just exposed you....a punk . LOL. This guy is doing a lot of great service free of charge...I think he has a ton to offer with these excercise vids. Awesome man keep them coming.
Thanks for the bold defense! That's it, though. I'm just trying to help others who haven't been playing as long as I have with some pointers. If they're not perfectly executed here, (and they're definitely not at times), so what? The theory behind it is what counts. But some people will always take offense no matter what. Normally I don't even pay attention, but this guy was trashing everyone. And I don't like that. Thanks again!
any chance you have tips on what to buy for first sets and how much it would be. I really want to start playing drums but I have no clue on the technical aspects of the drums yet
As far as specific brands, your budget will dictate that. But I wouldn't spend too much money yet, until you're sure you really love playing on a set. Then, I'd start small to cover the basics. Get a bass drum, snare, tom, hi-hat, crash and ride. DON'T get a double pedal yet. Too many kids today are starting with them and ignoring the independence of keeping time with a constant hi-hat tapping. Develop your meter with one bass drum and hi-hat 1st. Then you can work on your double pedal rolls.
ok thanks alot...I started playing Rock Band and Guitar Hero World Tour on drums and I wanted to actually play real drums because I was so good at those 2 games I just got bored of them...I have a natural talent for timing for beats so I guess that will help out alot.
That'll definitely help. You're probably a natural. As I said though, be sure to work on your basic 3-way independence FIRST--Hi-hat, bass drum, snare. Master a constant hi-hat foot while playing beats around it, and everything after that will be easier. Good luck. Post some videos too!
haha thanks and I will make videos...this probably won't be for awhile as my parents won't let me get drums yet and I don't have anything to convince them into letting me get them which is the worst feeling ever...I want to play these so bad I just don't understand why they won't let me get them...I guess the loudness but it's w/e for now...I will be getting them sometime in my life : )
thx dave, very useful tips its a wonder some of the world class guys out there didn't know these tips off yours. i use a snare with mesh drum heads on both sides and i found it better than a practice pad and i use a feather pillow to to warm up to loosen my wrists and strenthen my fingers by doing finger control
Maybe because they all took lessons and just recycled info whereas, being self-taught, I had to figure things out for myself? Glad you could benefit from it! Good luck to you.
hey dave im 12 and i have a drum set with a doble pedle and i bin playing for about 2 to a 3 years and when i play doble base my left foot is week to hit the pedle to make a good nose it makes a load one but its hard then my right can u tell me any way to help that?
You have to keep working your left foot harder, that's all. Try putting aside 15 minutes in every practice session for just the left foot alone. Start slow. The important thing is to keep the spacing between beats the same. As you get stronger and surer, increase your speed. Your power will definately increase. Develop CONSTANT 1/4 1/2 and 1/16th notes. Then work BOTH feet so they function well together--like your hands. Check out my Training Video #5. Good luck to you and keep practicing!
Hey Dave, thanks for the video, it's been a great help for this new drummer. I have a question though. My stick holding technique for my right hand is on the spot, being the dominant hand I get the most practice in with that hand. Recently I've been trying to be consistent with my left, but whenever I get into a beat, I can't maintain proper technique, and just end up grabbing them like you did the big dowels in your vid, any advice for training offhand stick holding technique?
Do you play with a 'matched' or 'traditional' grip? If it's traditional, there's not much I can offer there, as I don't use it. But if you're matched grip is inconsistent, try switching stick size. Maybe you need a thicker stick to begin with, (since you end up using the 'dowel' grip.) Or maybe you just need to work the left hand and fingers harder for awhile, to build up strength and comfort--which should give you more consistency. Good luck to you!
Try flipping your left stick upside-down, fat end out, and practice that way. Or try using a bigger stick in your left hand while practicing. Then just work it harder. Do more reps on the pad and snare with your left hand. Also, try to make it your LEAD hand while practicing. It'll help your ambidexterity and independence as well. Good luck.
As a subscriber, you'll be the 1st to know! Let me know what kind of kit you end up buying. It really does help psyche you to play more! And better! Good luck with it. Put up some videos with it! I'd love to see them.
@17drums could you recommend any good sites ? Thanks
TheReadyGamer 1 month ago
@TheReadyGamer For lessons? If you're not taking formal lessons, then look for sites that demonstrate the technique without getting technical. I don't really know any offhand, but search key words like 'polyrhythm', 'drum rudiments' 'paradiddle' even 'drum training' to see what else is out there. As for formal written lessons, there are a ton of sites. But some of them require a download of their worksheets. Good luck!
17drums 1 month ago
Thank you so much this is by far the best drum training video on YouTube by the way were did you get your drum sticks from ?
TheReadyGamer 2 months ago
@TheReadyGamer Thank you so much. I have to buy my sticks online, because most music stores, (even the Guitar Center), do not carry the Quantum 7000's that I love. I usually buy them by the dozen.
17drums 1 month ago
Thanks to Dave's training exercises.... the results are in the video response. Enjoy and thank you Dave!
Peace and best wishes,
Joey WFD champ 2011
chopzmasta07 4 months ago
@chopzmasta07 Congratulations again, Joey! But it was YOU who did all the work. I simply provided some simple suggestions. It's what people DO with these suggestions, (and those from others), that matters. You applied yourself. Let THAT be the lesson for others to learn from this!
17drums 4 months ago
Thats one amazing training video you have man! top notch! I used most of those for finger and wrist strength in the past but that last trick for switching fingers, that is pure awesomeness
MadCan 5 months ago
love it, top clip, thank you...
tonofdynamite 7 months ago
@tonofdynamite You're quite welcome!
17drums 7 months ago
wow :) we have a same surname :) im becher too from phillipines :D
angputangina 8 months ago
Wow! I wish I knew this 35 years ago. This is great stuff Dave, Thanks!
rolandvp 11 months ago
@rolandvp Thanks! It's mostly common-sense stuff to push yourself harder. This video is about basics in strength and speed. They get more involved as you go. Alot of the technique in the later videos, about independence and such, took me years to develop in myself. So I don't recommend rushing through them--unless you know it already of course. My execution in these videos is obviously not perfect, (because I'm not!) but the theories are still sound, imo. Take what you need and discard the rest
17drums 11 months ago
Thank you, finally!!!
SimonCrooks15 1 year ago
That was really what I needed. Thank you. There is no other video on youtube which shows the basics about gaining skills as clear as you do. Keep on making videos...:)
bigb992 1 year ago
@bigb992 Thanks! Glad it helped. Just took a common sense approach, and tried to include all the things I did while learning--without taking lessons. (However, I do recommend taking lessons if you can.)
17drums 1 year ago
Some great tips dave . What caught my eye was your lenny white- RTF cover
.Excellent !. How about some good ways to really get the double stroke roll going . From your set up it's hard for me to tell .Are you left handed or just ambidextrous.
TheChiFlows 1 year ago
@TheChiFlows Thanks! I guess, for the double-stroke, just building up power and speed in each hand individually probably goes a long way towards better doubles. Also, in the 2nd Training video, I did some snare exercise for chops. How about the one accenting the 2nd stroke of the double (rR, lL) to build strength? And I'm right-handed, who just plays lefty. (I thought that drums should be set up like fretboards or keyboards, with notes descending to the left). Apparently, I was wrong!
17drums 1 year ago
best regards from Versailles
airmetyk 1 year ago
Really interesting mate ;) good idea playing with the palm on the table gluing (?) the heel of the palm, and the stuff with clubs, where did u buy that big sticks?? :)
KillerDrummer88 1 year ago
@KillerDrummer88 Thanks. Yeah, just a collection of little tricks and exercises that I used to help develop skills. I bought those big sticks in Home Depot. They were wooden dowels, NOT meant to be used as drumsticks!
17drums 1 year ago
@17drums a nice pack, indeed...btw, wooden dowels?? :D LOL
KillerDrummer88 1 year ago
keep posting boss. i love yours :D
TheK4z0 1 year ago
Videos.*
bamaluvr2360 1 year ago
Dave I'm gonna try all of your training.
bamaluvr2360 1 year ago
It couldn't hurt, right? These are some of the things I've done over the years to work on my development. Some may be helpful, some not. Some are basic techniques, others more advanced, so don't expect to absorb it all right away in either case. Also, I'm not trying to TEACH anyone anything here. I'm just showing how I trained physically to play the drums. Use what you agree with. Discard the rest. Everyone has their own regimen, I suppose. Good luck!
17drums 1 year ago
I have been looking for this for so long, thank you for all that great advice. I'm a drummer and also a Doumbek player, I do a lot of the bare hands on pillows, but the dowel ideas are what really caught my attention. Recently I've been trying to develop my hand speed because I'm getting into the fastest drummer comps. What is the best excersice you got to develop my hand speed
chopzmasta07 2 years ago
Thanks and you're welcome! Your 990 beats per minute on the drumometer (495 x2) is incredibly fast already, (assuming that you don't have a big drop-off in speed during the 2nd 30 seconds). Don't forget that it took quite awhile for someone to break the 1000 bpm barrier. Just work on the strength exercises for duration, and finger exercises for speed. Measure your progress on your drumometer. But push for longer sessions--45, 60, 90, 120 seconds, so that 60 becomes easy and without speed loss.
17drums 2 years ago
How often do you advice to change the thickness of the sticks while training? Do you train with the big sticks first for 5 minutes and then change or would you be more likely to train with them for a whole day and then change for thinier the day after?
Wenceslas 2 years ago
I would warm up first with your regular sticks for about 15 minutes, then switch to the heavier ones so you don't strain yourself. Use them for as long as you want to. But stop if your hands feel tired and/or sore. Don't overdo it. Don't start out with too much weight. You could do damage to yourself. A simple rule is to just use something heavier on the pad, and your regular stick on the set. Good luck!
17drums 2 years ago
Ok, what about the very thin ones you use to train your fingers?
Wenceslas 2 years ago
You could probably use those for as long as you want. Just watch out for cramping, because you will have to use different muscles. If you're not used to the new grip, your hands could cramp up. Stop playing every 5 minutes, and just stretch out your fingers and relax your hands. As long as you're properly warmed up, you shouldn't have any problems.
17drums 2 years ago
Thanks a lot and keep on, your videos are great and inspirating.
Wenceslas 2 years ago
Thank you so much. I'm glad they were of some help to you.
17drums 2 years ago
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omg your stick control is bad and every your rolls are dirty or sound bad.you need learn to manage better sticks and not always take fingers help
aogino1 2 years ago
Did you just start that channel to trash other players in anonymity? Your recent activity shows you attacking other drummers, (even though one guy had a 5 star rating after 491 ratings!) But I guess you know better than everyone else, (yet are too afraid to post your own work!) The only videos you do like are of video games. Which shows that you are just some little insecure kid. Grow up. And quit attacking people for trying to help other people. It's punks like you that ruin YouTube.
17drums 2 years ago
I love how Dave just exposed you....a punk . LOL. This guy is doing a lot of great service free of charge...I think he has a ton to offer with these excercise vids. Awesome man keep them coming.
myboygabriel 2 years ago
Thanks for the bold defense! That's it, though. I'm just trying to help others who haven't been playing as long as I have with some pointers. If they're not perfectly executed here, (and they're definitely not at times), so what? The theory behind it is what counts. But some people will always take offense no matter what. Normally I don't even pay attention, but this guy was trashing everyone. And I don't like that. Thanks again!
17drums 2 years ago
thanks for the video. this will definitly help. thanks man
TaLDrummer 2 years ago
any chance you have tips on what to buy for first sets and how much it would be. I really want to start playing drums but I have no clue on the technical aspects of the drums yet
Brandon0828 2 years ago
As far as specific brands, your budget will dictate that. But I wouldn't spend too much money yet, until you're sure you really love playing on a set. Then, I'd start small to cover the basics. Get a bass drum, snare, tom, hi-hat, crash and ride. DON'T get a double pedal yet. Too many kids today are starting with them and ignoring the independence of keeping time with a constant hi-hat tapping. Develop your meter with one bass drum and hi-hat 1st. Then you can work on your double pedal rolls.
17drums 2 years ago
ok thanks alot...I started playing Rock Band and Guitar Hero World Tour on drums and I wanted to actually play real drums because I was so good at those 2 games I just got bored of them...I have a natural talent for timing for beats so I guess that will help out alot.
Brandon0828 2 years ago
That'll definitely help. You're probably a natural. As I said though, be sure to work on your basic 3-way independence FIRST--Hi-hat, bass drum, snare. Master a constant hi-hat foot while playing beats around it, and everything after that will be easier. Good luck. Post some videos too!
17drums 2 years ago
haha thanks and I will make videos...this probably won't be for awhile as my parents won't let me get drums yet and I don't have anything to convince them into letting me get them which is the worst feeling ever...I want to play these so bad I just don't understand why they won't let me get them...I guess the loudness but it's w/e for now...I will be getting them sometime in my life : )
Brandon0828 2 years ago
good vid man.
DrummerBoi181 2 years ago
Thanks. It's basic but the videos progress as you go on. Just my ideas on development though, not lessons.
17drums 2 years ago
Thanks! I'm a guitar player who's decided to take on drums, these excersises are really great. Thanks Dave.
KKKAZE 3 years ago
You're welcome. I'm glad they were of help to you!
17drums 3 years ago
thank you very much for uploading this, very helpful!
Drum2drums 3 years ago
Very glad to help!
17drums 3 years ago
thx dave, very useful tips its a wonder some of the world class guys out there didn't know these tips off yours. i use a snare with mesh drum heads on both sides and i found it better than a practice pad and i use a feather pillow to to warm up to loosen my wrists and strenthen my fingers by doing finger control
rocktourcustom01 3 years ago
Maybe because they all took lessons and just recycled info whereas, being self-taught, I had to figure things out for myself? Glad you could benefit from it! Good luck to you.
17drums 3 years ago
THX!
super training!
SheepstonePictures 3 years ago
Thank you alot , Dave! I have trained Much with just the hands on the table , Its Super good training , and all the others . Thank you again!
Co0lt 3 years ago
hey thnx man it helped me lots!!
DancingWreck 3 years ago
Hey Dave awesome vid, alot of useful stuff, been a great help. Greatly appreciate the advice you left on my video.
richovcry 3 years ago
hey dave im 12 and i have a drum set with a doble pedle and i bin playing for about 2 to a 3 years and when i play doble base my left foot is week to hit the pedle to make a good nose it makes a load one but its hard then my right can u tell me any way to help that?
RandomPranksTv 3 years ago
You have to keep working your left foot harder, that's all. Try putting aside 15 minutes in every practice session for just the left foot alone. Start slow. The important thing is to keep the spacing between beats the same. As you get stronger and surer, increase your speed. Your power will definately increase. Develop CONSTANT 1/4 1/2 and 1/16th notes. Then work BOTH feet so they function well together--like your hands. Check out my Training Video #5. Good luck to you and keep practicing!
17drums 3 years ago
Hey Dave, thanks for the video, it's been a great help for this new drummer. I have a question though. My stick holding technique for my right hand is on the spot, being the dominant hand I get the most practice in with that hand. Recently I've been trying to be consistent with my left, but whenever I get into a beat, I can't maintain proper technique, and just end up grabbing them like you did the big dowels in your vid, any advice for training offhand stick holding technique?
xdentalwarx 3 years ago
Do you play with a 'matched' or 'traditional' grip? If it's traditional, there's not much I can offer there, as I don't use it. But if you're matched grip is inconsistent, try switching stick size. Maybe you need a thicker stick to begin with, (since you end up using the 'dowel' grip.) Or maybe you just need to work the left hand and fingers harder for awhile, to build up strength and comfort--which should give you more consistency. Good luck to you!
17drums 3 years ago
hey Dave! i love the big dowels on the little practice pad! you're awesome!
awfulldrummer 3 years ago
Thanks! They're good for building up hand and wrist strength.
17drums 3 years ago
I REally like you vid im a fan!
Polyman92 3 years ago
Great advice Dave!
miffy126 3 years ago
hey, dude semi new to the drums, got any tips on training my left hand up to speed
SuddzInATub 4 years ago
Try flipping your left stick upside-down, fat end out, and practice that way. Or try using a bigger stick in your left hand while practicing. Then just work it harder. Do more reps on the pad and snare with your left hand. Also, try to make it your LEAD hand while practicing. It'll help your ambidexterity and independence as well. Good luck.
17drums 4 years ago
thx much for the tip ill be tryin it out in the meantime
SuddzInATub 4 years ago
Lot's of good ideas - nice instructional video. I'll be waiting for your tongue exercises, Dave!
larryh77 4 years ago
They said they were pornographic and wouldn't put them up!
17drums 4 years ago
You're more than welcome.
I'm just about to get a new kit myself.
I've had a starter kit for almost 8 years and it sounds terrible.
Your kit sounds great by the way.
All of the drums sound top quality.
Some of the things you do are very impressive, I'll be on the lookout for the next videos!
diffusiventity 4 years ago
As a subscriber, you'll be the 1st to know! Let me know what kind of kit you end up buying. It really does help psyche you to play more! And better! Good luck with it. Put up some videos with it! I'd love to see them.
17drums 4 years ago
I'm getting a mapex M retro kit.
I tried it out and it sounds amazing!
Definitely better than my current kit.
My current kit is of a discontinued make and the rack tom hardware is broken and they swing all over the place...
Not great.
diffusiventity 4 years ago
Great!
Thanks!
diffusiventity 4 years ago