Re: Pentecostal's should be preaching aginst the modern Charismatic church

[elijahfire1]

Excellent video, brother! It is amazing that in 2012 we are still debating this... I don't anymore, but I am so glad you made this. Great job.

[rustysruger]

@ Providential1611...Have you ever read Keith Green's great tract "The Catholic Chronicles"? He wrote it shortly before he died in the plane crash..

[whatthingssoever]

Brother...along the lines of once saved always saved...what do you think Paul was referring to when he said in Phil 3:14 "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Chirst Jesus"? Is that to keep from going to hell or is Paul referring to the prize being those called, chosen and faithful saints who will come back with the Lord to rule and reign during the coming 1000 year age? Is Outer Darkness for saints (believers) or sinners (non-believers)? What say you?

[Providential1611]

@whatthingssoever Outer Darkness is for both. There is no 1000-year Purgatory for carnal or backslidden Christians! This teaching is in some Baptist cirlces, but the idea is a modification od Rome's great error. Baptists came up with it to save the false doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved because there are so many verses that refute this idea, so they try to pretend these fearful things mean instead suffering somewhere for 1000 years. Its Protestant Purgatory

[whatthingssoever]

@Providential1611 So you believe and teach that the five foolish virgins in Matt 25:1-13 are unsaved and going to hell?

I once thought that too until I came to understand that not all Christians will be ruling and reigning with Christ in the coming 1000 year age.

Those who have no oil in their lamps will not go to hell, but be in what we call summer school weeping and gnashing of teeth; outer darkness. No working out your salvation just not reigning. They show up later with us.

[Providential1611]

@whatthingssoever Joseph Dillow wrote a large book THE REIGN OF THE SERVANT KINGS espousing this kind of view, and in recent times, Joey Faust wrote THE ROD, WILL GOD SPARE IT? as well. I see no 1000-year purgatory for believers. What I see is acceptance or rejection from the Lord.

[whatthingssoever]

@Providential1611 So in your view can man have assurance of salvation before death?

Or must man's belief be associated with works and a sinless disposition in hopes that one is deemed worthy by God at a later date?

[Providential1611]

@whatthingssoever If you read the article I directed to you, I address the assurance issue. Of course we can have assurance. But it comes directly from the Lord, not man trying to convince people they are saved even though they don't feel it or any different before they prayed the magic-prayer of 1-2-3 salvation. God bless

[whatthingssoever]

@Providential1611 Could not access the article. Link was not one I could just click on and go.

Have you read David Ebaugh's 1-2-3 Salvation?

I love that little book.

Simple and easy to understand the spirit, soul and body salvation thing.

If I am wrong then everybody is going to heaven.

If you are right then a lot of folks who think they are saved will be going to hell.

I'll stick to what we teach around here.

It is easy to miss hell, but tough to be worthy to rule and reign

[whatthingssoever]

Brother...have you read "War on the Saints" by Jesse Penn-Lewis? She wrote about how the enemy hurt many believers, including the main Evangelist Evan Roberts, during and after the migthy 1904-1905 Welsh Revival where and estimated 150,000 people got saved.

It has been a valuable book to understand why and how the devil is able to get into those who open themselves up to spirituality and how many end up controlled.

The devil is out to kill us, as we know, so we need all the help we can get.

[StockportWesleyanC]

So you believe that Christians can actually lose their salvation? Well, it's nice to know i'm not the only guy on youtube to believe that! You make some good points about the end of Mark as well. God bless you brother.

[MandoMohan]

I've just listened to the rest of this and I have to call you out and ask; When you say, "I saw people with limbs their legs grow out", are you saying you witnessed new limbs growing out from limbless people or something like half limbs becoming whole with fresh fingers and toes? Did you command them to grow back?

You keep saying, "Amazing services, real power, great sermons".These are just hiperbole. You say nothing past what you personally felt which was, yes we know, amazing and powerful.

[Providential1611]

@MandoMohan I saw people's leg's grow out who had walking problems, or back pain, I also saw the Lord heal a young man's dislocated shoulder instantly. Dislocated fingers of young children went back with no pain, heart conditions healed, etc. I SAW most of these things happen when our leaders prayed for people. I saw the gift of the word of knowledge manifest, God showing people things about others that was impossible for them to know. You don't BELIEVE. This is a common problem. Fasting!

[Providential1611]

@Providential1611 It grieves me that you could hear such testimonies, and your heart doesn't get excited and hope in God. Friend, there is MORE. More of God, more love, more power, more to know, more anointing--MORE. When we hunger and thirst, when we fast and pray and seek the Lord, He will move in us and through us. Most American Christians are complacent-- and full of unbelief, that is why we see so little power. Fasting cures unbelief.

[MandoMohan]

All your exclamations about the powerful writing of a certain author or the powerful experiences of your deep past that supposedly changed thousands of lives, bears no credibility to the fact that what you call tongues is psycho-babble limited to a few, always a very few, nonsensical meaningless sounds repeated over and over and over again. It's a joke to compare that to Acts wherein thousands heard the gospel in their own native tongue from Galileans

ps What about the carnality of King David?

[Providential1611]

@MandoMohan Your denials of my testimony, which lines up with Scripture, is worthless, as are your assertions about Pentecostal experiences today. You simply REFUSE to believe, so you cannot be helped. You will continue to repeat your "tongues is psycho-babble" line as if repetition makes it fact. You are so wrong. Your lack of experience in the things I speak is your problem, but that could change if your heart was open.

[Enoch2]

22:15 miracles like that happen all the time. If anyone says they don't that person is speaking their own unbelief. God does mighty works and He said, He will do what you ask for in Jesus' Name. Can you believe it though?

[edwardpf123]

Thank you brother for your thoughtful and interesting response video. You are correct that most Baptist churches are corrupt, having left the truth and sold out to the world. I will check out some of the works you recommended and maybe we can discuss them.

[Providential1611]

@edwardpf123 I sure do wish more Bapotists, and Christians in general, were like you bro. You are a blessing to me, even if we end up not agreeing on some doctrinal things. Stay close to the LOrd my friend, and continue to bear His fruit in your life. I will pray for you, and I ask for your prayer for me as well. God bless.

[edwardpf123]

@Providential1611 -Thank you brother. I can tell from your videos you are very sincere, humble and honest.

I always appreciate your videos and will indeed pray for you and thank you for your prayers from me.

[PanoramaOfScripture]

I checked out the cost on Amazon for What Meaneth This and it's $0.44 so I think I can swing that.

[Providential1611]

@PanoramaOfScripture LOL! Praise the Lord. You'll pay more for shipping unless you have their free-shipping deal. Well I am very interested to know when you get it and your thoughts chapter by chapter. God bless.

[PanoramaOfScripture]

I can relate to alot of this. I attend a Vineyard church on Sunday so my 4 & 5 yr old daughters can have Sunday school with other children & experience fellowship with little saints. My denominational background is Plymouth Brethren, which I attend on Wednesday, but that fellowship has no other children in @ this time. So on Sunday morning I see 3000 adult saints who are 1/2 inch deep in their faith & on Wed I am with 16 saints who are 20 feet deep.

[yankobutt]

@PanoramaOfScripture I use to attend the Plymouth Brethren for a couple years they were part of the Ames assembly and they were exclusive. I also had a chance to attend the open assembly briefly.

[Providential1611]

@PanoramaOfScripture My exp with Plymouth people is they are very cessationist. How can they be so deep when they are in such serious error about the Holy Spirit, His gifts, empowerment, etc for our lives and to promote the Gospel IN POWER? Sure, they may know Dispensational Truth real well, and that is needed, BUT that doesn't make them deep. I like some of the ways they "do church" as well and try to implement it in our small church.  Anyway, God bless.

[heygeno1951]

It is impossible to agree with anyone --about everything ! I like your passion for Truth.......Praying for you.

[Providential1611]

@heygeno1951 Thank you. I certainly do appreciate anyone who would promise to pray for me. God bless you and please do pray for me.