Yes......NASA Nazis didn't genocide 25,000 slaves in their underground ICBM lair, NASA Freemasons don't hoodwink for Lucifer, the "Federal" Reserve Bank is a government agency audited every year and gives all income tax revenue to govt, Bohemian Grove is a heterosexual Christian presidential retreat, Operation Northwoods is a boy scout summer camp, Gulf of Tonkin was a real attack and we never killed millions in Nam, Cambodia, Loas, Thailand, JFKs are still alive and psychopaths dont exist.
@NasaCriminals The name of the mockumentary Dark Side of the moon Several of the fictitious interviewees, such as Dave Bowman, Jack Torrance, and Dimitri Muffley are named after characters from movies directed by Kubrick.
The name of the mockumentary Dark Side of the moon Several of the fictitious interviewees, such as Dave Bowman, Jack Torrance, and Dimitri Muffley are named after characters from movies directed by Kubrick.
Yeah i believe in the moon landing, but i still have to wonder how their space suits would be able to survive the radiation of the sun with no atmosphere to protect the moon.
Space exploration is one of the few things I think the government should spend money on. The apollo 11 launch did more to bring the world together than the UN, "we are the world" combined.
What utter, utter bollocks......there were over ten thousand subcontractors involvedfrom all over the states and many abroad. The reason for the Florida and gulf connection is to do with achieving orbit with minimum energy you morons.
There is not even one logical hypothesis to make anyone with brain to believe the NASA fairytale.A total of 32000 pictures returned from this alleged moon exploration.. from 27 people for 100 days with 60+ cameras and unlimited film in outer space. However only 3 or 4 pictures of the Earth were taken...is that weird or what?. I mean even if you have send children they would return about 300-400 pictures of our home planet from various distances.
@fowzie777 which? the moon landing? yeah.. lol, impossible they landed on the moon. flapping flag and all that without any air on the moon and all that.. seriously shameful.
@potrodsas " "As well as being dyslexic ,Armstrong the so called "first man on the moon" is also cross eyed !!"
LMAO....It just gets better and better!
We have come a long way, haven't we. From waving flags to blast craters, errant shadows, fake light sources, questionable camera angles...etc. Now you're bitching about a "cross eyed astronaut." What will you desperate, shit-stains think up next.....
@MultiSmartass1 Damn nice call, I always appreciate when people call out conspiracy "facts". Don't get me wrong I think we didn't go to the moon, however it's nice when I find things like this.
@JJbones88 Thanks. Its just that these facts are so easy to get right if you research Nixon and Johnson who were never Governors of their respective states.
If the resarch is that sloppy, you have wondr about the validity of the doc as a whole.
The so called "Lunar landing"is the biggest joke in history. Nations maybe have their ups and lows but nobody has ever been such a ridiculous as the Americans are now.
2001, a "P.R. exercise"!!???? Who would think someone so close to Kubrick could be such a freakin' moron. Did he ever read Nietzsche? I suppose Arthur C. Clark was in on it, too.
And what about "Star Trek"??? That was waaaaaay ahead of Kubrick and NASA has said similar things about it. "Very accurate!" "So realistic!"
And "Forbidden Planet"!! That's when the PR REALLY started!!!!
@teddysalad65 haha.. sorry about the spelling and the grammar (previous comments of mine)... I said I told them about the landing. That was when I was talking about the improvements of science in history. and why are U so proud of saying those foul words like moron and liar?!! Are all AMericans the same as you? Hope my 3 American friends are not!!!
@inalalyaan, for a science teacher, your theories lack scientific support. If science is only about wildly imaginative theories, how in the world can even an airplane be designed? Both Russia and the US have had wonderful space programs. That's one reason why they cooperate every day.
@LunarTuner consider the videos as evidence of Hoax? supporting videos like the myth busters. if air planes are invented, also videos like moon landing can be made. Now if u believe moonlanding and someone don't- we are all entitled to our own opinion. others are engineers and physiscists- but still they all have their own personal view.
@inalalyaan, you're right. You're entitled to your opinion. But if one airplane engineer says he wants to design the airplane out of lead and the other says he wants to design it out of lightweight carbon fiber--and they are both entitled to their opinion--I don't want to fly in whatever airplane they design. They can't both be right!
I just watched again and heard the assertion (I missed it b4) that LBJ was gov of texas b4 he was pres - that is also not true (lbj was a rep and then a senator from TX). I'll admit that a whole lot of issues remain as to the moon landing, but the record of who was gov of which states (and when) is merely public record beyond dispute.
dude, the construction of the pyramids was a total hoax, just fyi. but any running-in-circles conspiracy theory aside, IMO the moon missions are easily the greatest achievement in human history. the pyramids are iconic and have been around for thousands of years, but there are many tremendous achievements in architecture that bear mention in or around the same breath as the giza pyramids. but the demands of science, organization and cooperation of apollo have never been approached.
@BruceBBaldwin100 just to correct ya, he (Jack Torrence) never said Nixon was Governor of California, he said Ronald Reagan.. (which is correct). Cheers!
i have only one question. if there ever was this landing, why we cannot see on google earth ( Moon ) the place they actually landed? instead of real image, there is just a lame picture. Why? why they dont put the original satellite image like on the rest of the moon? cant anyone explain it?
@choodomoodo There is only one explanation for no stars in any of the pics nasa published. Any knowledgible expert in star mapping would be able to tell where the pic was taken. Nasa made sure there were no stars in the videos and pics. This fact that no stars are in pics and videos proof that the video and pics were taken in a controled envirnment. Surely there are stars in outter space right.
@delhargis101 OMG, Explain where the stars go when you're downtown at night with all the bright lights. Explain where the stars go when you're looking at Jupiter through a telescope. Explain where the stars go when the moon is full. Explain where the stars go when you take a picture of a friend at night. Explain how your brain manages to keep you breathing let alone typing when you are so brutally stupid.
It reminds me of how much stuff done in the star trek series are what we realize today. Science many times chases the dreamers. We even use the same names for what has been realized. great minds think alike, and catch the same dreams.
I wonder how many of the 1,325 comments didn't take the time to read the description. "This is not an 'ordinary' documentary... It's intent is to inform and entertain the viewer"
5:15 'NASA turned to Jack Torrance, young producer in Hollywood'... Nicholson in Shinning is nammed Jack Torrance. Was is the same name in S.King novel?
@Hgo333 Because this is (and I quote) "not an 'ordinary' documentary"! It's a movie, with actors and a script! Read the description a bit more closely :D
@Roofred Yeah, did not saw that,sorry.So they made a fake documentary to tell us that we must not think it was fake because the media are fake.. is that it?It's just that U.S broke our trust many times now.Why can't anything be crystal clear? And with americans,the show must always be great.Like 9|11. Don't mean its fake.But the show was great, lets face it.No ordinary attack here..And how can I trust a government who believes in God and creationism?Can I trust their terms of believeness?
@Hgo333 Not really. This film is not about the landing. This is not meant to "make you aware of the moon landing" or Rosswell or 9/11 government manipulation. Is about how easy is for the media to make us believe whenever they want to get more money from us. Moon landing? Pfft, 40 years old story, nothing more to squeeze from it. Ah-ha! "They faked it and we have definite proof"? Now that's what sells newspapers because people buy sensationalism! Did you see Dave Bowman later in the film? :D
@Roofred@Roofred One day my 4 year old nephew brought me a drawing he said he did. First I was 'Wow!' Then I see that he obviously didn't draw it. 'You really draw this?' He smiles at me saying 'caught me!' Not a bad kid.He wanted to make me believe he was the best at something. And probably he was thinking: ''If he believe this, I will make him swalow anything!!!'' How old are the US? 500 years? Still a pretty juvenile country to me. Maybe it took us 40 years to make it say: You caught me!!
@Hgo333 The US? 500 years? Actually, if we consider the United States as a country starting in 1776 with the signing of the declaration, that's 234 years. Not even close to 500.
Stupid character limits. Dave Bowman "was an astronaut who dissapeared while orbiting Jupiter in 2001." :p
Jack Torrance is the main characters in King's Shining but also in Stanley Kubrick's movie based on same novel. Dave Bowman, from "2001, A Space Oddysey" is also a movie by Kubrick. This entire film is a also tribute to him. :)
@Roofred I missed the Bowman thing.Was distracted maybe. But I jumped with the Jack Torrence thing. Huge kubrick fan myself. Studied him for long time and still doing it. I would not be surprised if the moon landing was an hoax. I was not in front of TV at the time (born 78) so a I don't have a sentimental link with the event. Its all about believing. I work in publicity and know about manipulation. And this docu looks like propaganda. Presents real facts and turn them false with cheap tricks..
@Hgo333 ..... The Shining is a 1977 horror novel by American author Stephen King. .... John Daniel "Jack" Torrance is a recovering alcoholic who lost his teaching job.
@pt1gard ...>>". The Shining is a 1977 horror novel by American author Stephen King. .... John Daniel "Jack" Torrance is a recovering alcoholic who lost his teaching job"<<
Most hoaxtards are born from these lamentable circumstances. Desperation and anger seem to foment insanity.
According to Col. Corso, the moon landing wasn't the main objective, protecting the U.S. against UFO's was. They felt it was a real threat and these moon missions were the cover to go and set the moon up as a first defense against ET. This is from his book, The Day after Roswell. Whether you believe him or not, it's an interesting read, or look him up. He claims we got all sorts of technology from the Roswell crash. Lasers, Fiber optics, Night vision, the computer micro chip, etc.
@AlwaysSomething ....Rosewell was a hoax started by hoaxers, we got nothing from there. Since 1947 the USA has lost power in the world, not gained any.
@AlwaysSomething -- A big problem with saying we got such things as lasers and computer micro chips from the Roswell crash is that there are people around who actually understand exactly how these things evolved.
For instance, I was studying how lasers work when I was a kid and lasers were big, clunky devices that anyone could build in their back room. And the theory behind them comes directly from quantum theory that was developed over the previous 40 years.
@AlwaysSomething -- BTW: There was an article in Scientific American magazine in the mid 1960's on how to build a helium/neon laser with about $100 of materials.
Sorry, but other countries have bit mapped the moon (like google earth) and recorded every American Lunar Lander sitting exactly where it was reported to be. CASE CLOSED.
I wasted my time watching Part 1 and Part 2 and I am still waiting for the point. The only thing that could make it worse if if there were commercial breaks.
And body that dosen bilive in the moon landing or 911 sucks. The Moon landing did happen! We landed on the moon! And I know 911 sucked but It happed! And the goverment dident fake it get over it they both happened! It u don't bilive it u r and un American pice of shit.
@368penguin - Suck it. There is no "believe it or leave it" mentality. People are entitled to their beliefs. The same rights that allow you to open your mouth and spew whatever tumbles out of that 60hz ground hum you call "brain activity" also protects others' right to free speech as well. If you can't be open to other peoples' ideas, then at least be open to the idea that they have the right to be heard, too.
Dummerforreal1 Can certainly accept your tax concerns but if its any consolation the most recent NASA plans to go back to the moon in around 2018 - Orion project - have just been cancelled by Congress, proving if nothing else that NASA are not all-powerful and in tough economic times they don't have the power to sway all politicians and public opinion. A shame if you ask me because space programs may be pricey but not a patch on the cost of the military and they're more much productive I think
And now Dummerforreal1 is running down Iron Maiden on another channel saying that they cant compete with Zeppelin lol, two different eras, i guess once you've had Bing Crosby theres just no going back, no offence to Bing(i dont mind him). Dinosaur Jeff cant escape the 60's & 70's. Oh and he thinks Jim Morrison was Greek (hates greeks), and that the moon landing was a fake according to his daddy that worked in a top secret lab for NASA. Delusional much Jeff (the ex janitor).
Good video. A lecturer from university said this about this video: This video proves that the secret government which is partly NASA controls the media and uses it to brainwash, side track and influence the public thinking....we are living a life of lies embedded to us by this evil government who have proved to be strategically planning out and dictating our every way of living and thinking. They hide the truth about EB's and ET technology pretending us humans came up with it
The Same Energy,Dedication and Vibe of the 1960s that supposedly led to a man setting Foot on the Moon should be Brought out of storage and used to put more Research Craft, Landers and Probes to Mars. Mars should have a Human Being on it for real by 2020.
Seems like nearly everyone commenting here missed the point of the film. And actually proved its experiment . It is scary to think that people really do not pay attention. Very scary.
This film has little to do with "The Moon". It was simply used as the topic and element of the experiment. This film is an experiment in people, and how they can be manipulated via media, and television. Pay attention folks, pull your weight. Be smarter!
Watch all parts of this, learn something. It will scare u!
This video is a lie in itself. Most of the people speaking in it were clearly taken out of context. Kubrik did not work for disney. Of coarse NASA wanted every ounce of PR out of those missions, they were spending massive sums of taxpayers money. This was all done against the backdrop of the Vietnam war. The American public were getting tired and this was the diversion.
BUT FAKE? No way. Anyone who says it is should look beyond swinging flags and antennas taken for wires.
Ok, ok,... lets not get too excited.. the way i see it, is that they indeed went to the moon as claimed, however no footages or pictures were good enough to be seen or perhaps destroyed in space by some kind of radiation.. and this was not acceptable to U.S gov because it is to be a major propaganda win against russia.. propaganda to get the peoples attention/Nasa budget etc... so they hatched this beautiful plan to shoot a film in studios and claim as the real one!... hmmm...sounds good to me.
The only way to debunk the conspiracy theorists is to pay third party companies to take photos of the landing site (from satellites)... and try to show the moon rovers and the flag left there on the moon!
@teddysalad65 Ha! I think not... because they'll finally get their evidence for the alien abduction theory and all the medical experiments bullshit :))) I think the best strategy is to ignore them and not fuel their enthusiasm by continuously arguing.
Japan took pics of the landing with their own satellite last year. All it accomplished was having the hoax pushers invent 50 MORE excuses why they arent wrong.
They'll never admit we went. As this has nothing to do with fact, but with their own severe emotional paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
This is a disgrace to Stanley Kubrick, J. F. K., , all the scientists and engineers involved in the project and especially the men who risked their lives to push the boundaries of human knowledge for your fat asses. Unfortunately, this is what happens when ignorance, stupidity, pride and free speech mix together, and none of them are illegal. The only thing we should do is to ignore your pathetic arguments and maybe, maybe there will come a day when common sense and logic will prevail.
>caused by disinformation, artificial stress and accepting illogical lies.
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Really..?..
(1931 - 1933) Mental patients at Elgin State Hospital in Illinois are injected with radium-266 as an experimental therapy for mental illness (Goliszek).
HERE WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE MOVIES BUS TELLING YOU PEOLE HOW THEY STAGE IT, AND STILL YOU DOUGHT THATS COOL MANY DOUGHTED THAT A BLACK MAN WOULD EVER BE PRESIDENT AND LOOK WHAT HAPPEN..
In the 60's you had to believe it. In the 70' we had star wars etc which also made moon landings seem legit. In the 80' still no choice because the cold war was still on. 90's were ugly for other reasons. But now 40 years later there is no excuse to continue to believe this bs.For how really limited technology is can be seen in peoples inability to fix the leaking oil pump- let alone fly to the moon 40 years ago...6 x
Its funny how 1 year before mythbusters did this show debunking the moon landings Nasa and Discovery became partners. On top of that Nasa Lost the original tape of the moon landing.. Come the FUCK on now, the biggest fucking step of mankind and you lost the original fucking tape?BULL SHIT! So here we have mythbusters, thats teamed up with nasa, trying to debunk there own bull shit on footage thats not even the original?? Give me a fucking break.. Our government uses lies and propaganda 4 control
@TrueGreatness73 At least they still have the 16mm film footage of Apollo 11, and the many 70mm negatives, as well as the tapes for all the other moon landings.
@krisdevalle You said "at least". So your saying all you have to do is make up a lie and answer 1 question and "at least" will debunk the truth? lmao.. Wow
@TrueGreatness73 There is a vast amount of third-party evidence supporting the reality of the moon landings. You should approach the idea that it was hoaxed with the same amount of skepticism, and try to be unbiased.
The Saturn V rocket went somewhere. The Apollo CM and LM are the same size as the Hubble - which can be seen in orbit by amateur astronomers. You can't just 'hide it' for 7 days.
@krisdevalle The reason why I believe its a hoax is based on all the information the government has gave us. I didn't get any information from any other resources making it even harder to believe that the moon land was a hoax.
@TrueGreatness73 There are indepedent sources outside the US, many of them, who have provided evidence that shows Apollo was real and the landings happened.
Go to the wikipedia page 'Third-Party Evidence for Apollo moon landings' and follow the links at the bottom of the page, then see what you think.
@krisdevalle I have graduated form college and my professors always told us that we cant use wikipedia as a resource because its ran by racist anglophile Europeans. Anything that has to deal with History, Economics, and Politics is a lie in there favor. So sorry I cannot go to Wikipedia. If its anything besides what I have mentioned then I will rely on that as a resource.
@TrueGreatness73 You can go past wikipedia by following the links provided. You don't have to use anything IN wikipedia, use it as a collection of links to OTHER information.
History Channel said the Pearl harbor theory, AND 911, was stupid.
Did you even bother to watch?
Here's how I stop dumb conspiracies, with inconvenient questions you cant answer:
WHY, if we knew the Japs were coming, did we have to lose our WHOLE fleet? Just send one ship out to "accidentally" meet the Japs. That ship dies and we have our excuse for war anyway.
Why LOOSE the battle? Be prepared, WIN, and we have our excuse for war anyway.
You're too coddled to think of these better ideas.
Why did we have to "lose" the whole fleet? Why not just lose one ship? That worked for the spanish american war.
And why do we need to "lose" at all? Isnt a devious sneak attack reason enough? If japan tried to attack, and we stopped them, we could STILL say "They attacked" and still have moral authority.
There's 50 other ways it could have happened, but you're stuck on the ONE version that made us look the stupidest.
@SpreadingtheMuse well, when something so devastating happens, the whole country rallies together and will blindly agree to anything in the name of patriotism.
there's a million different ways that the country could be run and I happen to believe everything has been carefully planed out. maybe it has, maybe it hasn't, but ask me if those "terrorists" who "hijacked" the planes had been stopped, would the whole country be on orange alert like it is now or do you think things would have died down?
In the name of mutual DEFENSE is a far less corny, and more accurate way to look at it.
Changing stories between 911 and Pearl harbor only says that they're two different situations, different times, different wars. One conspiracy cannot be used as "proof" of another conspiracy. If you cant "prove" Pearl harbor with its own facts, then that likely proves that the "conspiracy" is wrong in the first place
Last time I was at an airport, I have no memory of anyone saying "Oh my god we're at orange alert." And aside from not being allowed to have my pocket knife on board (big freaking whoop), there was little to no difference in anything.
@SpreadingtheMuse because it's played over the loudspeaker at a volume just loud enough for it to turn into background noise. kinda like when you set your alarm to "sleep". it's just a little reminder.
"Why" the gov would let something happen does nothing to "prove" that it did. Too many times I see conspiracy junkies mixing up the two. Crimes arent just motive. They're also method and opportunity. And its the "method" of all these alleged conspiratorial events which has never been proved to my satisfaction. There's always a million tiny questions that the conspiracy junkies avoid and skip so as to push their personal pet ideas at the expense of accuracy.
@SpreadingtheMuse I think right now is time where people can look up facts on pretty much everything if they just put in the effort to look for it. but some people don't wanna hear the truth because they're too afraid they'll be wrong.
I'm not expecting you or anyone else to just accept what I say as facts. do the research yourself. make your own deductions.
Yes, I already have done the research and already have made my own deductions.
Here they are:
There is no piece of hoax "evidence" that isnt due to the error or misinformation of the hoax pusher
There is no piece of hoax evidence that isnt already refuted
There is no hoax pusher who is qualified to talk about what they pretend to talk about. You never hear "fake" from professional engineers for example, its all internet wannabes.
ANY engineer is good enough to prove the point. And if you dont know of any engineers, you havent looked. Do a google search for all the independent forums run by university science departments. They all rip the hoax to shreds.
You doubt that engineering professors ever discuss "hoaxes?"
Or do you doubt that any professional engineers, anywhere, even exist? ;)
Please be a bit more specific.
Just because you have neither the connections nor contacts to discuss these matters with anyone actually educated doesnt mean the rest of us are similarly living under a rock.
@SpreadingtheMuse I doubt you did enough research to disprove every hoax. I doubt YOU have the connections or contacts to discuss these matters with anyone actually educated.
I think it's funny that you resorted to attacking the intelligence of myself and the people I know. you could have gone a better route. I already said I wasn't here to convince you of anything, yet you got defensive anyway. shame.
You're still running mentally slow. I never said I did "all" the research. I dont have to. I have hundreds of online friends and colleagues who do it all. Let me tell you for the THIRD time: "Web Forum"
Just because you have no friends in advanced education doesnt mean the rest of us dont. ;) Just as I concentrate on the moonlanding, OTHER people concentrate on 911, OTHER people on WW2, and etc. I get the benefits of their effort. Its called "research." Try it.
Attacking your "intelligence" (to pit it loosely) is perfectly accurate and justified. You can and will be judged by your demeanor here and general perceived intelligence. If you say something stupid (you did), then you will be treated as stupid
The hoax crowd HARDLY has a unassailable reputation. I've caught far too many of you bluffing about your education, fabricating phony resumes, and outright pretending to be anything other than 8th graders. You are treated as you act
Yes you are. Its the only logical or even emotional reason to be here. You WANT to be heard. You WANT to beg for attention. Its what all hoax dufuses do, and you've done or said nothing that wasnt identical to 100+ that have all done it before. One more hoax cliche.
Else, you're only here to waste everyones time. But you did that anyway. ;)
@SpreadingtheMuse keep writing paragraph comments, I'll continue to ignore them.
fact of the matter is, just the thought of something like this being true makes you wanna piss yourself, so you try as hard as you can to disprove everything.
Remember the last time to even tried to post a factual point?
That you ran out of talking points so fast (and are now reduced to 3rd grade "you suck!") is fairly good evidence of how flimsy and stupid your entire position was in the first place. I havent even warmed up shooting down hoax factual stupidity. If only you had anything left to say, I could shoot that down too.
@SpreadingtheMuse okay, since you have such a horrible memory, let's go back to the original few comments. ones in which I said "I'm not claiming to take sides", "I don't care if you believe it one way or another", "I don't claim to know whether it is or is not fake"...
or how about the one where YOU started using "3rd grade "you suck!"" arguments first...
for someone who claims to be so intelligent and factual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
"not taking sides" is classic wishy-washy speak for "I'm trying not to expose my true belief as I'll get laughed at." I've heard it a million times before and almost always it was a lie. With a little pushing they dropped the charade and admitted they were hoax believers, but just trying to be sneaky about it.
What gives you away is your insistence on returning here day after day even after insisting "I dont care, I dont care," etc etc.
You can only be judged by your posts here. Not one of them has contained any facts or evidence, and every time you made a particularly ignorant comment and were called on it, you dropped it hoping it would go away (Remember "neutral engineers? I'm still waiting for an explanation for that).
You are a hoax dufus trying to avoid admitting it. You're hardly the first to come here waving cliches and noncommitals. You'll be treated as what you act like.
And whatever happened to your stupendous plan to prove that I didnt have a Masters? You sure dropped that real fast. ;)
You'll learn, probably the hard way, that the "hoax"is entirely dependent on illiterates and incompetents. There's not a serious professional in the world who agrees with a word of it. Thats the primary difference between me and you.
@SpreadingtheMuse never said I would prove you didn't have a masters (just wanted you to prove you did), never said I went either way (not because I'll get laughed at, just because it doesn't matter to me).
I never said or even implied anything you said I have. I even came out saying I didn't wanna argue about it. you claimed you knew facts (no proof), you claimed you could disprove it (also no proof) and you're still trying to argue. ;););););););)
@assdoooouuutttt dude, we don't have to provide proof of landing on the Moon. You are the accuser, you bring the proof. Whether or not Neil Armstrong indeed landed on the Moon is not something to argue about as much as whether or not the Sun is a star or that water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. We need instruments to figure it out and guess what... we have them. You wand to reinvent the wheel? Go on but you bring the proof and I'll make sure you look ridiculous.
@assdoooouuutttt You said that "I haven't heard a neutral professional engineer talking about landing on the moon". From this statement I understood that you expected those professional engineers to provide some sort of substantial proof to support the claim. And I was saying that anybody, and professional engineers in special, should question the moon landing as much as we question the rate of radioactive decay for U235 for example simply because both are determined using instruments.
@assdoooouuutttt I'm sorry if I got it wrong (I doubt it) but I guess my english is a little bit better than you speaking romanian (I hope you won't have to google that :))) ) Hoping that there will come a day when the giant leap for mankind from '69 will become as accepted as the discovery of the Americas, if you are from the US, can I please take your place?
No, you only inferred, implied, and generally split hairs to avoid making any admission at all about why you're here.
You dont have to come out and say "I believe in the hoax" to have it written all over your face. Stop acting wishy washy and you stop being treated like it.
let's say I DID believe THIS particular hoax. why would the government just let an engineer or a physicist or ANYONE just come out and say "hey, we never went to the moon. that's not true and here's proof."
do you know how idiotic that would be? to spend all that money faking something to let some peon come and disprove it???
honestly, thinking the gov't would let someone do that is the dumbest thing about this conversation.
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Yes......NASA Nazis didn't genocide 25,000 slaves in their underground ICBM lair, NASA Freemasons don't hoodwink for Lucifer, the "Federal" Reserve Bank is a government agency audited every year and gives all income tax revenue to govt, Bohemian Grove is a heterosexual Christian presidential retreat, Operation Northwoods is a boy scout summer camp, Gulf of Tonkin was a real attack and we never killed millions in Nam, Cambodia, Loas, Thailand, JFKs are still alive and psychopaths dont exist.
operationnorthwoodz 1 month ago
NASA IS A JOKE
2011 and the shuttles can only go 220 miles into space
Apollo was a sick joke
NasaCriminals 2 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
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@NasaCriminals The name of the mockumentary Dark Side of the moon Several of the fictitious interviewees, such as Dave Bowman, Jack Torrance, and Dimitri Muffley are named after characters from movies directed by Kubrick.
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The name of the mockumentary Dark Side of the moon Several of the fictitious interviewees, such as Dave Bowman, Jack Torrance, and Dimitri Muffley are named after characters from movies directed by Kubrick.
echozgus 3 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
Yeah i believe in the moon landing, but i still have to wonder how their space suits would be able to survive the radiation of the sun with no atmosphere to protect the moon.
Lamar933 3 months ago
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@Lamar933 you just contradicted yourself
DeadJesus100 2 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
@Lamar933 ITS A HOAX
What shielding did the apollo craft have against radiation?
NasaCriminals 2 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
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APOLLO BULLSHIT
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DeadJesus100 3 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
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Hiding in plain sight.
rdecredico 3 months ago
Space exploration is one of the few things I think the government should spend money on. The apollo 11 launch did more to bring the world together than the UN, "we are the world" combined.
no2religions 5 months ago 2
What utter, utter bollocks......there were over ten thousand subcontractors involvedfrom all over the states and many abroad. The reason for the Florida and gulf connection is to do with achieving orbit with minimum energy you morons.
BunkyOhare 5 months ago
FORMER NASA ASTRONAUT SCIENTIST BRIAN OLEARY
The only Nasa astronaut with integrity besides Guss Grissom
who Nasa murdered on Apollo 1
"Look i didn't go to the moon. Some of my collegues probably did.
Much of what Nasa does is also hoaxed"
"i knew the astronauts and thought they wouldn't lie
even if there was a conspiracy"
"I am not 100% sure men walked on the moon.
Nasa could have Faked it so the US could be the first allegedly on the moon"
DeadJesus100 5 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
8:17 LOL-YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU
wonkyfonkfrightwig 6 months ago
lmao@ NASA let Kubrick "borrow" a special camera.... this is fantastic! Good stuff!
BowleggedBrooklyn 6 months ago in playlist Moon Landing Hoax
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wwe200100 6 months ago
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There is not even one logical hypothesis to make anyone with brain to believe the NASA fairytale.A total of 32000 pictures returned from this alleged moon exploration.. from 27 people for 100 days with 60+ cameras and unlimited film in outer space. However only 3 or 4 pictures of the Earth were taken...is that weird or what?. I mean even if you have send children they would return about 300-400 pictures of our home planet from various distances.
potrodsas 6 months ago
wouldn't it be hilarious if this turned out to be true....lol
fowzie777 6 months ago
@fowzie777 which? the moon landing? yeah.. lol, impossible they landed on the moon. flapping flag and all that without any air on the moon and all that.. seriously shameful.
TheDaring007 4 months ago
@batfly that's what I be saying ... And we kill Osama 10 years later... How perfect... Life is just a long movie.
mrayg92 6 months ago
2001 and what happened in 2001 anyone anyone anyone?
batfly 7 months ago
if you believe there was a man on the moon...man on the moon...
josi19831 7 months ago
Watch
Buzz Aldrin Funny Man 1969
NASAHOAX 8 months ago
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As well as being dyslexic ,Armstrong the so called "first man on the moon" is also cross eyed !!
watch?v=idvdhJqatdM
potrodsas 8 months ago
@potrodsas " "As well as being dyslexic ,Armstrong the so called "first man on the moon" is also cross eyed !!"
LMAO....It just gets better and better!
We have come a long way, haven't we. From waving flags to blast craters, errant shadows, fake light sources, questionable camera angles...etc. Now you're bitching about a "cross eyed astronaut." What will you desperate, shit-stains think up next.....
nosajj12345 7 months ago
I love the soundtrack...
pacerodi 8 months ago
Indian lunar mission confirmed moon landing sites..
vams1980 9 months ago
This doc is inaccurate.
Lyndon Johnson was a House member and Senator from Texas and never a Governor of Texas.
Neither was Nixon who ran for Governor of California but never won the race.
Reagan was Governor before becoming President.
These are easy facts to get right,
MultiSmartass1 9 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 Damn nice call, I always appreciate when people call out conspiracy "facts". Don't get me wrong I think we didn't go to the moon, however it's nice when I find things like this.
JJbones88 9 months ago
@JJbones88 Thanks. Its just that these facts are so easy to get right if you research Nixon and Johnson who were never Governors of their respective states.
If the resarch is that sloppy, you have wondr about the validity of the doc as a whole.
MultiSmartass1 9 months ago
The so called "Lunar landing"is the biggest joke in history. Nations maybe have their ups and lows but nobody has ever been such a ridiculous as the Americans are now.
thedevoll 9 months ago
@thedevoll Yes you are right. If only there were more like us, perhaps one day there will be. One can only hope, or pray.......
Chev4206 7 months ago
2001, a "P.R. exercise"!!???? Who would think someone so close to Kubrick could be such a freakin' moron. Did he ever read Nietzsche? I suppose Arthur C. Clark was in on it, too.
And what about "Star Trek"??? That was waaaaaay ahead of Kubrick and NASA has said similar things about it. "Very accurate!" "So realistic!"
And "Forbidden Planet"!! That's when the PR REALLY started!!!!
You morons.
LazlosPlane 9 months ago
nice fake movie...Next time call me I will give you 20 cents to buy a toy rocket fly to the moon again with american population! haha
MrZIODIK 11 months ago
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inalalyaan 1 year ago
@inalalyaan ...why would a science teacher be talking about the Moon landings? That's history class, not science class. You're a moron and a liar.
teddysalad65 1 year ago
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@teddysalad65 haha.. sorry about the spelling and the grammar (previous comments of mine)... I said I told them about the landing. That was when I was talking about the improvements of science in history. and why are U so proud of saying those foul words like moron and liar?!! Are all AMericans the same as you? Hope my 3 American friends are not!!!
inalalyaan 1 year ago
@inalalyaan, for a science teacher, your theories lack scientific support. If science is only about wildly imaginative theories, how in the world can even an airplane be designed? Both Russia and the US have had wonderful space programs. That's one reason why they cooperate every day.
LunarTuner 11 months ago
@LunarTuner it was just a reaction... !!!!
inalalyaan 11 months ago
@LunarTuner consider the videos as evidence of Hoax? supporting videos like the myth busters. if air planes are invented, also videos like moon landing can be made. Now if u believe moonlanding and someone don't- we are all entitled to our own opinion. others are engineers and physiscists- but still they all have their own personal view.
inalalyaan 11 months ago
@inalalyaan, you're right. You're entitled to your opinion. But if one airplane engineer says he wants to design the airplane out of lead and the other says he wants to design it out of lightweight carbon fiber--and they are both entitled to their opinion--I don't want to fly in whatever airplane they design. They can't both be right!
LunarTuner 11 months ago
I just watched again and heard the assertion (I missed it b4) that LBJ was gov of texas b4 he was pres - that is also not true (lbj was a rep and then a senator from TX). I'll admit that a whole lot of issues remain as to the moon landing, but the record of who was gov of which states (and when) is merely public record beyond dispute.
BruceBBaldwin100 1 year ago
@BruceBBaldwin100 It's a mockumentary moron!
un4g1v3n1 11 months ago
Please listen again. He says that both Nixon and Reagan were California governors before going to the White House. Nixon ran for governor, but lost.
BruceBBaldwin100 1 year ago
Better than the construction of the pyrmids = total bullshit!!! nasa scum
DJCH4 1 year ago
@DJCH4
dude, the construction of the pyramids was a total hoax, just fyi. but any running-in-circles conspiracy theory aside, IMO the moon missions are easily the greatest achievement in human history. the pyramids are iconic and have been around for thousands of years, but there are many tremendous achievements in architecture that bear mention in or around the same breath as the giza pyramids. but the demands of science, organization and cooperation of apollo have never been approached.
scrotumup 1 year ago
Nixon was never the governor of California. Poor fact checking.
BruceBBaldwin100 1 year ago
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battalian 1 year ago
@BruceBBaldwin100 just to correct ya, he (Jack Torrence) never said Nixon was Governor of California, he said Ronald Reagan.. (which is correct). Cheers!
battalian 1 year ago
i have only one question. if there ever was this landing, why we cannot see on google earth ( Moon ) the place they actually landed? instead of real image, there is just a lame picture. Why? why they dont put the original satellite image like on the rest of the moon? cant anyone explain it?
choodomoodo 1 year ago
@choodomoodo There is only one explanation for no stars in any of the pics nasa published. Any knowledgible expert in star mapping would be able to tell where the pic was taken. Nasa made sure there were no stars in the videos and pics. This fact that no stars are in pics and videos proof that the video and pics were taken in a controled envirnment. Surely there are stars in outter space right.
delhargis101 1 year ago
@delhargis101 OMG, Explain where the stars go when you're downtown at night with all the bright lights. Explain where the stars go when you're looking at Jupiter through a telescope. Explain where the stars go when the moon is full. Explain where the stars go when you take a picture of a friend at night. Explain how your brain manages to keep you breathing let alone typing when you are so brutally stupid.
vaasnaad 1 year ago
haha jack torance! From the shinning!!
mattcreese88 1 year ago
GODFATHER Music?
McCallahanIndustries 1 year ago
7:48 to end; America's spine becomes more flexible and is finally able to suck its own dick.
kaderoder 1 year ago
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@kaderoder .."7:48 to end; America's spine becomes more flexible and is finally able to suck its own dick."<<
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Weren't you the homopolar who invented that? Do you swallow? Ick.
teddysalad65 1 year ago
@teddysalad65 i bet you shallow every night.
nasaffakedit 1 year ago
@kaderoder lol!!!
robinsl27 1 year ago
Never A Straight Answer, you've done it again. So many lies.
I anticipate the truth of it all and look forward to seeing your faces when it arrives.
HunterDThompson 1 year ago
@HunterDThompson
"The truth"
MY GOD! I bet NASA's really scared now ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
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UgLyKoerner 1 year ago
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UgLyKoerner 1 year ago
It reminds me of how much stuff done in the star trek series are what we realize today. Science many times chases the dreamers. We even use the same names for what has been realized. great minds think alike, and catch the same dreams.
JRBeaman 1 year ago
I wonder how many of the 1,325 comments didn't take the time to read the description. "This is not an 'ordinary' documentary... It's intent is to inform and entertain the viewer"
Dethklokroach 1 year ago
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
Silberdachs 1 year ago
5:15 'NASA turned to Jack Torrance, young producer in Hollywood'... Nicholson in Shinning is nammed Jack Torrance. Was is the same name in S.King novel?
Hgo333 1 year ago
@Hgo333 Because this is (and I quote) "not an 'ordinary' documentary"! It's a movie, with actors and a script! Read the description a bit more closely :D
Roofred 1 year ago
@Roofred Yeah, did not saw that,sorry.So they made a fake documentary to tell us that we must not think it was fake because the media are fake.. is that it?It's just that U.S broke our trust many times now.Why can't anything be crystal clear? And with americans,the show must always be great.Like 9|11. Don't mean its fake.But the show was great, lets face it.No ordinary attack here..And how can I trust a government who believes in God and creationism?Can I trust their terms of believeness?
Hgo333 1 year ago
@Hgo333 Not really. This film is not about the landing. This is not meant to "make you aware of the moon landing" or Rosswell or 9/11 government manipulation. Is about how easy is for the media to make us believe whenever they want to get more money from us. Moon landing? Pfft, 40 years old story, nothing more to squeeze from it. Ah-ha! "They faked it and we have definite proof"? Now that's what sells newspapers because people buy sensationalism! Did you see Dave Bowman later in the film? :D
Roofred 1 year ago
@Roofred @Roofred One day my 4 year old nephew brought me a drawing he said he did. First I was 'Wow!' Then I see that he obviously didn't draw it. 'You really draw this?' He smiles at me saying 'caught me!' Not a bad kid.He wanted to make me believe he was the best at something. And probably he was thinking: ''If he believe this, I will make him swalow anything!!!'' How old are the US? 500 years? Still a pretty juvenile country to me. Maybe it took us 40 years to make it say: You caught me!!
Hgo333 1 year ago
@Hgo333 The US? 500 years? Actually, if we consider the United States as a country starting in 1776 with the signing of the declaration, that's 234 years. Not even close to 500.
Bassbait 1 year ago
Stupid character limits. Dave Bowman "was an astronaut who dissapeared while orbiting Jupiter in 2001." :p
Jack Torrance is the main characters in King's Shining but also in Stanley Kubrick's movie based on same novel. Dave Bowman, from "2001, A Space Oddysey" is also a movie by Kubrick. This entire film is a also tribute to him. :)
Roofred 1 year ago
@Roofred I missed the Bowman thing.Was distracted maybe. But I jumped with the Jack Torrence thing. Huge kubrick fan myself. Studied him for long time and still doing it. I would not be surprised if the moon landing was an hoax. I was not in front of TV at the time (born 78) so a I don't have a sentimental link with the event. Its all about believing. I work in publicity and know about manipulation. And this docu looks like propaganda. Presents real facts and turn them false with cheap tricks..
Hgo333 1 year ago
@Hgo333 ..... The Shining is a 1977 horror novel by American author Stephen King. .... John Daniel "Jack" Torrance is a recovering alcoholic who lost his teaching job.
pt1gard 1 year ago
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@pt1gard ...>>". The Shining is a 1977 horror novel by American author Stephen King. .... John Daniel "Jack" Torrance is a recovering alcoholic who lost his teaching job"<<
Most hoaxtards are born from these lamentable circumstances. Desperation and anger seem to foment insanity.
teddysalad65 1 year ago 4
@teddysalad65 you are so naitive and gullible
nasaffakedit 1 year ago
moon tv watch?v=jCLhtSFJRSA
6ho6stinthem6chine 1 year ago
this is even more stupid than the moon hoax conspiracy
eugeniobb 1 year ago
It takes a stunningly ignorant idiot to imagine the moon landings were faked, but they're out there.
I think most of them call themselves Teabaggers nowadays, don't they?
TammyFayeSyndrome 1 year ago
@TammyFayeSyndrome you sir, made my day :)
maffoid 1 year ago
Jack Torrence is The Shining's character name.
Robertpiser 1 year ago
According to Col. Corso, the moon landing wasn't the main objective, protecting the U.S. against UFO's was. They felt it was a real threat and these moon missions were the cover to go and set the moon up as a first defense against ET. This is from his book, The Day after Roswell. Whether you believe him or not, it's an interesting read, or look him up. He claims we got all sorts of technology from the Roswell crash. Lasers, Fiber optics, Night vision, the computer micro chip, etc.
AlwaysSomething 1 year ago
@AlwaysSomething ....Rosewell was a hoax started by hoaxers, we got nothing from there. Since 1947 the USA has lost power in the world, not gained any.
teddysalad65 1 year ago
@AlwaysSomething -- A big problem with saying we got such things as lasers and computer micro chips from the Roswell crash is that there are people around who actually understand exactly how these things evolved.
For instance, I was studying how lasers work when I was a kid and lasers were big, clunky devices that anyone could build in their back room. And the theory behind them comes directly from quantum theory that was developed over the previous 40 years.
nesokretep 1 year ago
@AlwaysSomething -- BTW: There was an article in Scientific American magazine in the mid 1960's on how to build a helium/neon laser with about $100 of materials.
nesokretep 1 year ago
Hollywood is real, its called the NASA.
DoomNoMore 1 year ago
Sorry, but other countries have bit mapped the moon (like google earth) and recorded every American Lunar Lander sitting exactly where it was reported to be. CASE CLOSED.
Trolleymoose 1 year ago
haha coating the rocket engines with gold leaf.!!! hahahahaahah
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ProtectAus 1 year ago
I wasted my time watching Part 1 and Part 2 and I am still waiting for the point. The only thing that could make it worse if if there were commercial breaks.
dragomiloff59 1 year ago
ProtectAus u r gay I hope u get maled by a bear the moon landing and 911 happens and the goverment dident fake it.
368penguin 1 year ago
And body that dosen bilive in the moon landing or 911 sucks. The Moon landing did happen! We landed on the moon! And I know 911 sucked but It happed! And the goverment dident fake it get over it they both happened! It u don't bilive it u r and un American pice of shit.
368penguin 1 year ago
@368penguin - Suck it. There is no "believe it or leave it" mentality. People are entitled to their beliefs. The same rights that allow you to open your mouth and spew whatever tumbles out of that 60hz ground hum you call "brain activity" also protects others' right to free speech as well. If you can't be open to other peoples' ideas, then at least be open to the idea that they have the right to be heard, too.
beaviselectron 1 year ago
Dummerforreal1 Can certainly accept your tax concerns but if its any consolation the most recent NASA plans to go back to the moon in around 2018 - Orion project - have just been cancelled by Congress, proving if nothing else that NASA are not all-powerful and in tough economic times they don't have the power to sway all politicians and public opinion. A shame if you ask me because space programs may be pricey but not a patch on the cost of the military and they're more much productive I think
EvilSirJasper 1 year ago
@EvilSirJasper Good!!!! But cancel our imperialistic oil and heroin whore armies while we are at it.
drummerforreal1 1 year ago
And now Dummerforreal1 is running down Iron Maiden on another channel saying that they cant compete with Zeppelin lol, two different eras, i guess once you've had Bing Crosby theres just no going back, no offence to Bing(i dont mind him). Dinosaur Jeff cant escape the 60's & 70's. Oh and he thinks Jim Morrison was Greek (hates greeks), and that the moon landing was a fake according to his daddy that worked in a top secret lab for NASA. Delusional much Jeff (the ex janitor).
guitdude09 1 year ago
All of u people suck balls. If u don't bilive in the AMERICAN moon landing u r a gay un american ass holes.
368penguin 1 year ago
@368penguin I agree!!! you must believe what your gubament tells you!!! I have certainly always did..
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ProtectAus 1 year ago
Good video. A lecturer from university said this about this video: This video proves that the secret government which is partly NASA controls the media and uses it to brainwash, side track and influence the public thinking....we are living a life of lies embedded to us by this evil government who have proved to be strategically planning out and dictating our every way of living and thinking. They hide the truth about EB's and ET technology pretending us humans came up with it
clipbrowser 1 year ago
The Same Energy,Dedication and Vibe of the 1960s that supposedly led to a man setting Foot on the Moon should be Brought out of storage and used to put more Research Craft, Landers and Probes to Mars. Mars should have a Human Being on it for real by 2020.
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guitdude09 1 year ago
Seems like nearly everyone commenting here missed the point of the film. And actually proved its experiment . It is scary to think that people really do not pay attention. Very scary.
This film has little to do with "The Moon". It was simply used as the topic and element of the experiment. This film is an experiment in people, and how they can be manipulated via media, and television. Pay attention folks, pull your weight. Be smarter!
Watch all parts of this, learn something. It will scare u!
N0rthwestRadio 1 year ago 2
Jack Torrance? Is this the same Jack Torrance who was in the film "The Shining" by Stanley Kubrick?
autoad 1 year ago
This video is a lie in itself. Most of the people speaking in it were clearly taken out of context. Kubrik did not work for disney. Of coarse NASA wanted every ounce of PR out of those missions, they were spending massive sums of taxpayers money. This was all done against the backdrop of the Vietnam war. The American public were getting tired and this was the diversion.
BUT FAKE? No way. Anyone who says it is should look beyond swinging flags and antennas taken for wires.
tpsossff 1 year ago
Ok, ok,... lets not get too excited.. the way i see it, is that they indeed went to the moon as claimed, however no footages or pictures were good enough to be seen or perhaps destroyed in space by some kind of radiation.. and this was not acceptable to U.S gov because it is to be a major propaganda win against russia.. propaganda to get the peoples attention/Nasa budget etc... so they hatched this beautiful plan to shoot a film in studios and claim as the real one!... hmmm...sounds good to me.
ranaoboy 1 year ago
YouTards being paid by the Russian government to post disinformation! USA landed on the Moon, the Soviets did not!
teddysalad65 1 year ago
The only way to debunk the conspiracy theorists is to pay third party companies to take photos of the landing site (from satellites)... and try to show the moon rovers and the flag left there on the moon!
ranaoboy 1 year ago
@ranaoboy You know how to debunk the conspiracy theorists? Shove an axe handle up their sphincter, then watch how fast they shut the fuck up!
teddysalad65 1 year ago
@teddysalad65 Ha! I think not... because they'll finally get their evidence for the alien abduction theory and all the medical experiments bullshit :))) I think the best strategy is to ignore them and not fuel their enthusiasm by continuously arguing.
LHFX 1 year ago
@ranaoboy
Japan took pics of the landing with their own satellite last year. All it accomplished was having the hoax pushers invent 50 MORE excuses why they arent wrong.
They'll never admit we went. As this has nothing to do with fact, but with their own severe emotional paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
This is a disgrace to Stanley Kubrick, J. F. K., , all the scientists and engineers involved in the project and especially the men who risked their lives to push the boundaries of human knowledge for your fat asses. Unfortunately, this is what happens when ignorance, stupidity, pride and free speech mix together, and none of them are illegal. The only thing we should do is to ignore your pathetic arguments and maybe, maybe there will come a day when common sense and logic will prevail.
LHFX 1 year ago
@Zeno1999
>caused by disinformation, artificial stress and accepting illogical lies.
1(2)
Really..?..
(1931 - 1933) Mental patients at Elgin State Hospital in Illinois are injected with radium-266 as an experimental therapy for mental illness (Goliszek).
ForAll23 1 year ago
@Zeno1999
2(2)
(1945) Continuing the Manhattan Project, researchers inject plutonium into three patients at the Univ of Chicago's Billings Hospital (Sharav).
The US State Department, Army intelligence and the CIA begin Operation Paperclip.
Researchers infect 800 prisoners in Atlanta with malaria to study the disease (Sharav).
ForAll23 1 year ago
HERE WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE MOVIES BUS TELLING YOU PEOLE HOW THEY STAGE IT, AND STILL YOU DOUGHT THATS COOL MANY DOUGHTED THAT A BLACK MAN WOULD EVER BE PRESIDENT AND LOOK WHAT HAPPEN..
buttascotchbro1 1 year ago
Yeah right - thousands of hollywood technicians concocted the moon landing and only ONE has blown the whistle.
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Maybe they were all bought off with a promise they could work on the 9/11 hoax.
Noisegator 1 year ago 2
this is how the christianty changed and still !
Kenarah 1 year ago
In the 60's you had to believe it. In the 70' we had star wars etc which also made moon landings seem legit. In the 80' still no choice because the cold war was still on. 90's were ugly for other reasons. But now 40 years later there is no excuse to continue to believe this bs.For how really limited technology is can be seen in peoples inability to fix the leaking oil pump- let alone fly to the moon 40 years ago...6 x
vladika07 1 year ago
Its funny how 1 year before mythbusters did this show debunking the moon landings Nasa and Discovery became partners. On top of that Nasa Lost the original tape of the moon landing.. Come the FUCK on now, the biggest fucking step of mankind and you lost the original fucking tape?BULL SHIT! So here we have mythbusters, thats teamed up with nasa, trying to debunk there own bull shit on footage thats not even the original?? Give me a fucking break.. Our government uses lies and propaganda 4 control
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 At least they still have the 16mm film footage of Apollo 11, and the many 70mm negatives, as well as the tapes for all the other moon landings.
krisdevalle 1 year ago
@krisdevalle You said "at least". So your saying all you have to do is make up a lie and answer 1 question and "at least" will debunk the truth? lmao.. Wow
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 There is a vast amount of third-party evidence supporting the reality of the moon landings. You should approach the idea that it was hoaxed with the same amount of skepticism, and try to be unbiased.
The Saturn V rocket went somewhere. The Apollo CM and LM are the same size as the Hubble - which can be seen in orbit by amateur astronomers. You can't just 'hide it' for 7 days.
krisdevalle 1 year ago
@krisdevalle The reason why I believe its a hoax is based on all the information the government has gave us. I didn't get any information from any other resources making it even harder to believe that the moon land was a hoax.
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 There are indepedent sources outside the US, many of them, who have provided evidence that shows Apollo was real and the landings happened.
Go to the wikipedia page 'Third-Party Evidence for Apollo moon landings' and follow the links at the bottom of the page, then see what you think.
krisdevalle 1 year ago
@krisdevalle I have graduated form college and my professors always told us that we cant use wikipedia as a resource because its ran by racist anglophile Europeans. Anything that has to deal with History, Economics, and Politics is a lie in there favor. So sorry I cannot go to Wikipedia. If its anything besides what I have mentioned then I will rely on that as a resource.
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 You can go past wikipedia by following the links provided. You don't have to use anything IN wikipedia, use it as a collection of links to OTHER information.
krisdevalle 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 college degree or the 1 your professors have doesnt make them right
just like pearl harbor was a staged attack,like the gulf of tonkin
all of that is declassified and been proven that we knew it was gonna happen,they jus let it happen for a good reason to goto war.
same as 9/11 but we gotta give that 30 years before its decalssified.
the official story is always a lie
RealDeal336 1 year ago
@RealDeal336 exactly
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@RealDeal336
All this sounds like is that you'll believe any dumb conspiracy you'll hear.
Any whine about Pearl Harbor is especially stupid. There's a million holes in that conspiracy alone.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse they have had a documentary on histroy channel about pearl harbor being staged
so try another one
the real conspiracy theories are the "official stories"
RealDeal336 1 year ago
History Channel said the Pearl harbor theory, AND 911, was stupid.
Did you even bother to watch?
Here's how I stop dumb conspiracies, with inconvenient questions you cant answer:
WHY, if we knew the Japs were coming, did we have to lose our WHOLE fleet? Just send one ship out to "accidentally" meet the Japs. That ship dies and we have our excuse for war anyway.
Why LOOSE the battle? Be prepared, WIN, and we have our excuse for war anyway.
You're too coddled to think of these better ideas.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse by losing, they have an excuse to start a war and have 100% of the people behind them. it's a simple trick.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
Why did we have to "lose" the whole fleet? Why not just lose one ship? That worked for the spanish american war.
And why do we need to "lose" at all? Isnt a devious sneak attack reason enough? If japan tried to attack, and we stopped them, we could STILL say "They attacked" and still have moral authority.
There's 50 other ways it could have happened, but you're stuck on the ONE version that made us look the stupidest.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse well, when something so devastating happens, the whole country rallies together and will blindly agree to anything in the name of patriotism.
there's a million different ways that the country could be run and I happen to believe everything has been carefully planed out. maybe it has, maybe it hasn't, but ask me if those "terrorists" who "hijacked" the planes had been stopped, would the whole country be on orange alert like it is now or do you think things would have died down?
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"in the name of patriotism"
In the name of mutual DEFENSE is a far less corny, and more accurate way to look at it.
Changing stories between 911 and Pearl harbor only says that they're two different situations, different times, different wars. One conspiracy cannot be used as "proof" of another conspiracy. If you cant "prove" Pearl harbor with its own facts, then that likely proves that the "conspiracy" is wrong in the first place
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse no matter WHAT the situation, disasters are used to sway the vote one way or another.
pearl harbor was devastating. 9/11 was the same devastating event.
I'm not saying either situation was staged, I'm just saying that is why the government would just let it happen.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"orange alert" is in name only. Things HAVE died down. I cant even remember the last time anyone even mentioned orange alert on TV or anywhere.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse ever been to an airport?
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
Last time I was at an airport, I have no memory of anyone saying "Oh my god we're at orange alert." And aside from not being allowed to have my pocket knife on board (big freaking whoop), there was little to no difference in anything.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse because it's played over the loudspeaker at a volume just loud enough for it to turn into background noise. kinda like when you set your alarm to "sleep". it's just a little reminder.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse by the way, these are all valid questions that conspiracy theorists also ask, but unfortunately, they will never be answered.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"Why" the gov would let something happen does nothing to "prove" that it did. Too many times I see conspiracy junkies mixing up the two. Crimes arent just motive. They're also method and opportunity. And its the "method" of all these alleged conspiratorial events which has never been proved to my satisfaction. There's always a million tiny questions that the conspiracy junkies avoid and skip so as to push their personal pet ideas at the expense of accuracy.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse I think right now is time where people can look up facts on pretty much everything if they just put in the effort to look for it. but some people don't wanna hear the truth because they're too afraid they'll be wrong.
I'm not expecting you or anyone else to just accept what I say as facts. do the research yourself. make your own deductions.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
Yes, I already have done the research and already have made my own deductions.
Here they are:
There is no piece of hoax "evidence" that isnt due to the error or misinformation of the hoax pusher
There is no piece of hoax evidence that isnt already refuted
There is no hoax pusher who is qualified to talk about what they pretend to talk about. You never hear "fake" from professional engineers for example, its all internet wannabes.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse I haven't heard a neutral professional engineer talking about landing on the moon.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
What exactly is a "neutral" engineer?
ANY engineer is good enough to prove the point. And if you dont know of any engineers, you havent looked. Do a google search for all the independent forums run by university science departments. They all rip the hoax to shreds.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse lol I doubt that.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
You doubt that universities have web forums?
You doubt that engineering professors ever discuss "hoaxes?"
Or do you doubt that any professional engineers, anywhere, even exist? ;)
Please be a bit more specific.
Just because you have neither the connections nor contacts to discuss these matters with anyone actually educated doesnt mean the rest of us are similarly living under a rock.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse I doubt you did enough research to disprove every hoax. I doubt YOU have the connections or contacts to discuss these matters with anyone actually educated.
I think it's funny that you resorted to attacking the intelligence of myself and the people I know. you could have gone a better route. I already said I wasn't here to convince you of anything, yet you got defensive anyway. shame.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
You're still running mentally slow. I never said I did "all" the research. I dont have to. I have hundreds of online friends and colleagues who do it all. Let me tell you for the THIRD time: "Web Forum"
Just because you have no friends in advanced education doesnt mean the rest of us dont. ;) Just as I concentrate on the moonlanding, OTHER people concentrate on 911, OTHER people on WW2, and etc. I get the benefits of their effort. Its called "research." Try it.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
Attacking your "intelligence" (to pit it loosely) is perfectly accurate and justified. You can and will be judged by your demeanor here and general perceived intelligence. If you say something stupid (you did), then you will be treated as stupid
The hoax crowd HARDLY has a unassailable reputation. I've caught far too many of you bluffing about your education, fabricating phony resumes, and outright pretending to be anything other than 8th graders. You are treated as you act
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"not here to convince"
Yes you are. Its the only logical or even emotional reason to be here. You WANT to be heard. You WANT to beg for attention. Its what all hoax dufuses do, and you've done or said nothing that wasnt identical to 100+ that have all done it before. One more hoax cliche.
Else, you're only here to waste everyones time. But you did that anyway. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse keep writing paragraph comments, I'll continue to ignore them.
fact of the matter is, just the thought of something like this being true makes you wanna piss yourself, so you try as hard as you can to disprove everything.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"ill ignore them"
Thats all the admission I need of your intellectual immaturity. ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"disprove everything"
As the "hoax" is entirely dependent on 8th graders and janitors to evangelize it, you'd be amazed how easy "disproving it" actually is. ;)
Just once I'd like to insult an educated man.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
Remember the last time to even tried to post a factual point?
That you ran out of talking points so fast (and are now reduced to 3rd grade "you suck!") is fairly good evidence of how flimsy and stupid your entire position was in the first place. I havent even warmed up shooting down hoax factual stupidity. If only you had anything left to say, I could shoot that down too.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse okay, since you have such a horrible memory, let's go back to the original few comments. ones in which I said "I'm not claiming to take sides", "I don't care if you believe it one way or another", "I don't claim to know whether it is or is not fake"...
or how about the one where YOU started using "3rd grade "you suck!"" arguments first...
for someone who claims to be so intelligent and factual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"not taking sides" is classic wishy-washy speak for "I'm trying not to expose my true belief as I'll get laughed at." I've heard it a million times before and almost always it was a lie. With a little pushing they dropped the charade and admitted they were hoax believers, but just trying to be sneaky about it.
What gives you away is your insistence on returning here day after day even after insisting "I dont care, I dont care," etc etc.
Yes you do. Be honest.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
You can only be judged by your posts here. Not one of them has contained any facts or evidence, and every time you made a particularly ignorant comment and were called on it, you dropped it hoping it would go away (Remember "neutral engineers? I'm still waiting for an explanation for that).
You are a hoax dufus trying to avoid admitting it. You're hardly the first to come here waving cliches and noncommitals. You'll be treated as what you act like.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
And whatever happened to your stupendous plan to prove that I didnt have a Masters? You sure dropped that real fast. ;)
You'll learn, probably the hard way, that the "hoax"is entirely dependent on illiterates and incompetents. There's not a serious professional in the world who agrees with a word of it. Thats the primary difference between me and you.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse never said I would prove you didn't have a masters (just wanted you to prove you did), never said I went either way (not because I'll get laughed at, just because it doesn't matter to me).
I never said or even implied anything you said I have. I even came out saying I didn't wanna argue about it. you claimed you knew facts (no proof), you claimed you could disprove it (also no proof) and you're still trying to argue. ;););););););)
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt dude, we don't have to provide proof of landing on the Moon. You are the accuser, you bring the proof. Whether or not Neil Armstrong indeed landed on the Moon is not something to argue about as much as whether or not the Sun is a star or that water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. We need instruments to figure it out and guess what... we have them. You wand to reinvent the wheel? Go on but you bring the proof and I'll make sure you look ridiculous.
LHFX 1 year ago
@LHFX what's ridiculous is that more than one person has such horrible reading comprehension. I did not ask for proof that we landed on the moon.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt You said that "I haven't heard a neutral professional engineer talking about landing on the moon". From this statement I understood that you expected those professional engineers to provide some sort of substantial proof to support the claim. And I was saying that anybody, and professional engineers in special, should question the moon landing as much as we question the rate of radioactive decay for U235 for example simply because both are determined using instruments.
LHFX 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt I'm sorry if I got it wrong (I doubt it) but I guess my english is a little bit better than you speaking romanian (I hope you won't have to google that :))) ) Hoping that there will come a day when the giant leap for mankind from '69 will become as accepted as the discovery of the Americas, if you are from the US, can I please take your place?
LHFX 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"I did not ask for proof"
No, you only inferred, implied, and generally split hairs to avoid making any admission at all about why you're here.
You dont have to come out and say "I believe in the hoax" to have it written all over your face. Stop acting wishy washy and you stop being treated like it.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse lol you're making yourself look like a fool.
let's say I DID believe THIS particular hoax. why would the government just let an engineer or a physicist or ANYONE just come out and say "hey, we never went to the moon. that's not true and here's proof."
do you know how idiotic that would be? to spend all that money faking something to let some peon come and disprove it???
honestly, thinking the gov't would let someone do that is the dumbest thing about this conversation.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago
@assdoooouuutttt
"gov let"
Because thats the invention of ANOTHER wholly fabricated conspiracy when you havent even proven the first one yet. Its a circular argument:
"It was a hoax."
"But scientists dont say so"
"Thats because they were threatened."
"Why were they threatened?"
"Because it was a hoax."
You cant use one conspiracy as your proof of another conspiracy.
Besides, the gov ALREADY has "let people talk." How many people have mouthed off about Area 51? Why are they still alive?
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@SpreadingtheMuse you are an idiot.
assdoooouuutttt 1 year ago