Your handle is Anarchy Jordan, you should look up that one:
an·ar·chy
n. pl. an·ar·chies Absence of any form of political authority. Political disorder and confusion. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
yeah, i know of the anarchist black cross. they were good to me when i was down. they couldnt provide me with much outside of support and shit to read, but hey...it was something. i did five years, so i am pretty aware of alot of the groups out there. i dont know if you like bob black or not but he and i still talk and he wrote me for years.
no its a real old yamaha. thanks for the comments man. i hope you have less problems with the law in the future. i have been busted a lot too for bullshit but havent had many issues lately. they dont deserve the power to determine our lives for us. right on. check the anarchist black cross prisoner support groups worldwide.
i am more worried about what they are doing here in the states than what they do in iraq. i dig where you are coming from but fuck man, we need that oil. murder and dying are apart of the nation state dynamic...i mean you cant reallly have one with out the other.
i understand how you feel i have sat in prison for shit i didnt do. i have been falsely accuse two seperate times and convicted. there is no love from me for the state and the concept of authority. i like you more than i like cops, you dont have the power to just lie and jam me up..so i am with you.
i only have questions, not solutions. i want to see a society where people figure things out for themselves, and take responsibility upon themselves for what happens instead of delegating it to idiot politicans and bourgeois.
The pithy answer is we tried that in 1776 and this is what we have. For a more current version of anarchy, Afghanistan comes pretty close. Warlords, religious zealots, battle it out, and eventually they will pound out what happened in Europe during the dark ages. The bourgeois will always either have force, or hire force, so the suggestion of anarchy is based on a false premise. Interesting idea...impossible to implement.
in 1776 they set up a system that would allow them to avoid being taxed and keep their slaves. afghanistan is chaos. anarchy means total self-management. if you think it's impossible to implement, i guess you just don't believe in yourself enough. we the people can get rid of religion hierarchy and money if we take responsibility upon ourselves for our lives.
I disagree. Anarchy refers to the absence of government, not the prescence of self rule. The false premise is considering a scenario where there isn't a group of folks with money and weapons in any society to make that idea possible. Not matter what my belief in individual power.
it actually does refer to total self management; anarchy is order, made by the people themselves, from the bottom. money and weapons are for the weak. any of the anarchist writers imply self management when they talk about the absence of government. It's easy to "disagree" when you're arguing between yourself and something you think a word means.
If you're redefining a word to suit your argument you win, but it is you who is arguing with yourself. I'm using the "dictionary" definition. If we can't agree on that we can't have a rational discussion. I'm not so sure money is for the weak. If I have skills and I get paid, and therefore I have money, that makes me weak? Unfortunately implying some form of self government is weak. It just isn't a stance, it is an avoidance.
well, i disagree with you. that's why i made this video, and you didn't.
it's not an avoidance it means taking responsibility upon yourself. government and capitalism require you to give up that authority to money, cops and politicians etc. the more you believe in yourself the less you need all that junk. money is for the weak because it's too easy. convenience makes you inept.
I don't have a problem with exploring the ideas. When you poke a bit at anarchy and anarchist scenarios, they don't hold any water in the real world. If you disagree with that, then show some muster, and not resort to ad hominum attacks.
anarchism |ˈanərˌkizəm| noun belief in the abolition of all government and the <i> organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion. </i>
Jordan, your a goddamn genius! Where is johny? I guess i hardly knew ya...
breakdancebrad 3 years ago
Your handle is Anarchy Jordan, you should look up that one:
an·ar·chy
n. pl. an·ar·chies Absence of any form of political authority. Political disorder and confusion. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
vonriesling 4 years ago
you can't handle this
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
What, your lack of any cohesive argument? As you wish. Let me know when you actually have thought your position through.
vonriesling 4 years ago
ok art boy make another map >:>)
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
I shall map your ridiculous-osity!
vonriesling 4 years ago
are you a psychogeographer or just a psycho, geographer?
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
yeah, i know of the anarchist black cross. they were good to me when i was down. they couldnt provide me with much outside of support and shit to read, but hey...it was something. i did five years, so i am pretty aware of alot of the groups out there. i dont know if you like bob black or not but he and i still talk and he wrote me for years.
blastingcaps 4 years ago
is that a gibson acoustic you play?
blastingcaps 4 years ago
no its a real old yamaha. thanks for the comments man. i hope you have less problems with the law in the future. i have been busted a lot too for bullshit but havent had many issues lately. they dont deserve the power to determine our lives for us. right on. check the anarchist black cross prisoner support groups worldwide.
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
i am more worried about what they are doing here in the states than what they do in iraq. i dig where you are coming from but fuck man, we need that oil. murder and dying are apart of the nation state dynamic...i mean you cant reallly have one with out the other.
blastingcaps 4 years ago
i say wreck it all and let the people sort it out
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
i understand how you feel i have sat in prison for shit i didnt do. i have been falsely accuse two seperate times and convicted. there is no love from me for the state and the concept of authority. i like you more than i like cops, you dont have the power to just lie and jam me up..so i am with you.
blastingcaps 4 years ago
This is a nifty saying, but it isn't so much a solution as a way to re-create the problem.
vonriesling 4 years ago
i only have questions, not solutions. i want to see a society where people figure things out for themselves, and take responsibility upon themselves for what happens instead of delegating it to idiot politicans and bourgeois.
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
The pithy answer is we tried that in 1776 and this is what we have. For a more current version of anarchy, Afghanistan comes pretty close. Warlords, religious zealots, battle it out, and eventually they will pound out what happened in Europe during the dark ages. The bourgeois will always either have force, or hire force, so the suggestion of anarchy is based on a false premise. Interesting idea...impossible to implement.
vonriesling 4 years ago
in 1776 they set up a system that would allow them to avoid being taxed and keep their slaves. afghanistan is chaos. anarchy means total self-management. if you think it's impossible to implement, i guess you just don't believe in yourself enough. we the people can get rid of religion hierarchy and money if we take responsibility upon ourselves for our lives.
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
I disagree. Anarchy refers to the absence of government, not the prescence of self rule. The false premise is considering a scenario where there isn't a group of folks with money and weapons in any society to make that idea possible. Not matter what my belief in individual power.
vonriesling 4 years ago
it actually does refer to total self management; anarchy is order, made by the people themselves, from the bottom. money and weapons are for the weak. any of the anarchist writers imply self management when they talk about the absence of government. It's easy to "disagree" when you're arguing between yourself and something you think a word means.
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
If you're redefining a word to suit your argument you win, but it is you who is arguing with yourself. I'm using the "dictionary" definition. If we can't agree on that we can't have a rational discussion. I'm not so sure money is for the weak. If I have skills and I get paid, and therefore I have money, that makes me weak? Unfortunately implying some form of self government is weak. It just isn't a stance, it is an avoidance.
vonriesling 4 years ago
well, i disagree with you. that's why i made this video, and you didn't.
it's not an avoidance it means taking responsibility upon yourself. government and capitalism require you to give up that authority to money, cops and politicians etc. the more you believe in yourself the less you need all that junk. money is for the weak because it's too easy. convenience makes you inept.
anarchyjordan 4 years ago
I don't have a problem with exploring the ideas. When you poke a bit at anarchy and anarchist scenarios, they don't hold any water in the real world. If you disagree with that, then show some muster, and not resort to ad hominum attacks.
vonriesling 4 years ago
anarchism |ˈanərˌkizəm| noun belief in the abolition of all government and the <i> organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion. </i>
anarchyjordan 4 years ago