1987 Robert Bork TV ad, narrated by Gregory Peck

[KidSheIeen]

Does anyone believe that Gregory Peck understands the stuff he is reading?

[GeorgiaKev]

@KidSheIeen Does anyone believe that Ronald Reagan understood any of the speeches he read?

[KidSheIeen]

@GeorgiaKev I do

[GeorgiaKev]

@KidSheIeen That proves what a great actor Reagan was.....he played his best role for eight years as the president.

[PinkOld]

It is difficult to imagine a more vile organization than Norman Lear's People for the (Un)American Way.

Burn in hell, the lot of you.

[mvies77]

Gregory Peck was a well known extreme leftist liberal. The Constitution should rule the court not social opinions.

[starkweather444]

The little kid wearing the baseball cap is Max Bluemthal

[440wedge]

More of the never ending lies and fabrications of the left. Liberals don't want JUDGES on the court. They want ideologues that legislate from the bench to advance the leftist agenda.

[Sylderon]

@440wedge As opposed to ideologues that legislate from the bench to advance the conservative agenda? It's always telling when that phrase comes up, that it's only in response to a decision that doesn't fit with the speaker's personal politics. Conservative activist judges are perfectly acceptable, right?

[brokkenstar]

On behalf of Judge Bork, and the libel put forth against him in this ad, I call the narrator Gregory Peckerwood.

[ToxicOdiousOne]

Since when do Supreme Court nominees have political ads? If this so why do they not get voted in by the people? Why do they run unopposed?

[ihitawallofassholes]

Burn.

[KRKahn87]

What happened to Bork was wrong.

[TheKevinWalker]

Go Gregory Peck, Go!!!!! I mean we've let some terrible justices onto the bench of the Supreme Court, but thankk god at least Bork was blocked.

[FAHayek89]

@TheKevinWalker You are partially correct. Blackmun comes to mind in that terrible group.

[TheKevinWalker]

@FAHayek89

So, wait, a guy named after a Libertarian Austrian school economist who doesn't like Bork, a guy who would've gladly forwarded the conservative economic agenda, and who also doesn't like the author of "Roe V. Wade"?

SNAKE YOU'VE CREATED A TIME PARADOX!!!

[The1CamBo]

american propaganda, how far have we come?

[kubiczech25]

Completely dishonest, of course.

[Hodgenation]

So.... because Gregory Peck played a lawyer, we should follow his advice on who is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice?!?!??!?! Wow....

[WorldBFree2006]

So... you're saying that because Gregory Peck is against literacy tests, segregation, and and government censorship of art that they should be the law of the land? Wow...

[LarcheOsborne]

Not because he was an actor, but because he was correct on Bork. Do you agree with those who say the 1st Amendment applies only to political speech?

[ForeignPolicyWonk]

@LarcheOsborne Yes I do.

[LarcheOsborne]

The nation is grateful that you do not sit on the Supreme Court.

[63utuber]

@LarcheOsborne The nation is grateful that morons like you are allowed to voice their asinine opinions, but even more thankful that no one is listening.

[LarcheOsborne]

Obviously someone was listening. Bork was kept off the Court, and our nation is more liberal than it was in 1987.

I bet you have never read anything about Bork's decisions and his judicial philosophy, yet you take the time to defend them. Interesting.

[FAHayek89]

@LarcheOsborne For the record, I've read the above and approve of Bork.

[LarcheOsborne]

Do you agree with Bork that the First Amendment Guarantee of Free Speech applies only to political speech as well?

[TheKevinWalker]

@LarcheOsborne We may be more liberal, but 1) only by a margin, and 2) not liberal enough.

RE-ELECT FDR

[LarcheOsborne]

Agreed

[TheKevinWalker]

@Hodgenation What's important is the words. "Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens." - Edward Kennedy

[MrRobrepp]

@Hodgenation So, since Ronald Reagan played a role in a movie as Gregory Peck did,vwe should have elected him president?

[PinkOld]

@MrRobrepp

Nice pretzel logic, lib.

[MrRobrepp]

@PinkOld Hodgenation said...

"So.... because Gregory Peck played a lawyer, we should follow his advice on who is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice?!?!??!?! Wow...."

I said "So, since Ronald Reagan played a role in a movie as Gregory Peck did,vwe should have elected him president?"

Don't understand that rushette?

[PinkOld]

@MrRobrepp

Fuck off, dickbreath.

Reagan was a lot of things between being an actor and being president, including governor of California.

You may have despised him, but he was a kickass president, as far as I'm concerned.

Now, go run along now and cornhole one of your fellow liberal pukes.

[MrRobrepp]

@PinkOld Hey rushette...nice to hear from you! I don't despise Reagan, but think he was wrong and didn't know what a bunch of modern day asswipes would carry his banner. I think he would be embarrassed. Bork questioned the right to privacy, tried to help Nixon cover up Watergate by firing the special prosecutor. Your hero's are lacking rushette.

[PinkOld]

@MrRobrepp

You can pull Normal Lear's syphilitic dick out of your ass now, monkey boy.

[MrRobrepp]

@PinkOld Are you a homo too rushette? You seem to think a lot about dick.

[PinkOld]

@MrRobrepp

It's inevitable to think of dicks when a walking, typing dick posts repeatedly.

Now, go wipe that semen off your chin.

[MrRobrepp]

@PinkOld You would rather talk about male homo sex than the legitimacy of Robert Bork and Gregory Peck's accomplishments.....sheesh and yuk.....

bye rushette

[PinkOld]

@MrRobrepp

Good

Now, get back to your little cornhole party.

[KidSheIeen]

@MrRobrepp Bork spoke about the general right to privacy and the constitution. He understood the right to privacy but said that ruling a womans right to an abortion falls under the general right was not constitutional. That it was being argued at the time as a specific right was more constitutional. That is what he said. He never argued against the right of privacy

[MrRobrepp]

He argued many times and at his confirmation hearings that there was no right to privacy specifically stated in the constitution and to try and define that right in a judicial ruling would not be "originalist".

As for Ronald Reagan, I think he was someone who tried to champion the free market but never knew the lengths that thinking would eventually be construed. I would love to know what he secretly would think of the political climate today, and the use of his name in all of this.

[KidSheIeen]

@MrRobrepp No right to privacy. There are privacy rights enumerated in the Constitution. Not sure what you're talking about.

[adiksas19]

The 1980's were a great time of entreprenaurship and the great feeling of American exceptionalism. The only people that were unhappy were the progressive assholes who drugged themselves out in the 60's who had a successful smear job of good man who knows constitutional law. Civil liberites were never a concern, the unions got what they deserved, free thinking, what a joke! Liberals don't think, they feee-el! Now we have this disaster called Obama, worst since Carter!

[WorldBFree2006]

The 1980's were also a time in which the middle-class was completely anihalated and placed in the lower-class category. Civil liberties were no concern because people like Bork were laughed out of the confirmation hearings. However, because of Reagan and company the Dept. of Education went to hell in a handbasket, labor wages and health benefits steadily decreased alongside the increase of living costs, and our healthcare quality dropped to 35th in the world. Bush was the worst since Reagan!

[adiksas19]

Actually, the middle class prospered, more minorities prospered, and the country felt good about itself. The Dept. of Ed should have been gone, but fell twice as bad in the 90's with more people in jail. We had more freedom than ever, and Reagan was the the best president in the 20th centurty. More lib spin and rewriting of history, nice try! Obam the worst since Carter, the real worst president.

[WorldBFree2006]

Umm... I was there for the 80's I know what happened. My dad was making $45,0000.00 a year in 81' but in 86' he was forced to take a demotion or be unemployed, so naturally he had to get another job and Reagan said anyone who didn't was lazy. My dad never made more than 35K at one job again. The ecconomy fell sharply under the irresponsible spending that was Reaganomics, or are you forgetting the crash of 87' (and it's the liberals rewriting history.)

[adiksas19]

My dad was making about 45k ayear and by the end of the 80's was making over 60k a year. The economy was 10 times worse, remember Carter? Notice they always say this is the worst economy since the depression. WRONG! I was alive in 87, and I also remember a democrat congress, and I remember how fast we pulled out of it as well. Also, the libs tell the biggest lie about the new deal, which prolonged the depression because of gov't interference in the market like now with this bozo Obama.

[WorldBFree2006]

Well what was your dad doing? My dad worked at a power plant, my uncle and about 6,000 of his colleagues at the shipyard lost their jobs under Reagan as well. Kudos to your dad, but I'll tell my dad's story is a lot more common than yours. The economy was a mess under Carter, but you leave out a key point. We were just beginning to experience a the fallout from the disaster in Vietnam. Honestly, can you make a point without spin?

[adiksas19]

My dad worked in the auto industry and decided to go to school to move into management and out of the labor union and moved up his skill level and believed in the company unlike the complainers. It was because of Reagan's optimism and belief in Americans and getting gov't the fuck out our lives who was responsible for the country recovering from Vietnam and watergate. Yeah, it was Reagan's fault the shipyard went down and your uncle lost his job. The prez has that power.

[WorldBFree2006]

The gov't needs to stay out of people's lives except of course if someone wants an abortion, or to marry a member of the same sex. And, yes Reagan did have the ability to put my uncle out of a job, cause the yard did not go down it was mysteriously moved to California, Reagan's home state. And by the way nice elitist statement. The first two generations of my family supported their families and retired off of the labor union. So onl behalf of working men and women everywhere go fuck yourself

[Sylderon]

@adiksas19 So maybe you also remember how under Reagan, the national debt was tripled...or maybe you don't...

[WorldBFree2006]

Cont. So, you're one of those small government tycoons who feel there should be no Department of Education huh? Well without one who is going regulate what children are taught in school. As it is we have state assemblies trying to insert creationism into public school science classes. Just imagine what some teachers would do if they were not regulated.

[adiksas19]

So, your one of these big gov't geniuses! The gov't who has destroyed social security, medicare, the post office, and couldn't run a fucking dairy queen by a guy who's never ran anything. Yeah, I know because Darwinism does a great job of explaining how man was created, we just mutated out of thin air. Because libs are so fucking smart, they are bigger than any higher power. Now some teachers want a throw a theory, the libs get their panties in an uproar. Your name should be lifeunderthestatist

[WorldBFree2006]

The government has not destroyed SS Reagan did by stealing from it to pay for his tax cuts for the rich. So, your idea of how humanity started was someone you've never seen and there is no evidence to support the existence of snapped his fingers and created us... brilliant!!! These are the same people who insist the earth is only 4,000 years old, yet fossils older than that turn up each day. Your name should be good old pre-science pre-civilization knee-depp in shit man.

[adiksas19]

Social Security was in a private fund until Lyndon Johnson and the dem congress placed in the general fund to support the great society, get your facts straight. There is no evidence either way, but it does not hurt to throw a theory out and let people decide. Your name should be knee-deep in Lewinsky autographed knee pads for liberal brilliance.

[HapaLife]

The Department of Education... where is the educating? Judging by your arguments you mustn't have received a very good education, and the IQ levels have been falling since the federal government began homogenizing schools.

[WorldBFree2006]

The lack of education is due to budget cuts from nearly bankrupt state and federal governments, because the money that should have been going to education was instead spent on faith-based initiatives and god-forsaken wars. Don't be fooled by fake concern about education on the part of conservatives. They were the ones who slashed it's funding and allowed 12 countries to surpass us in that area. The only reason they want the department gone is because it forbids teaching creationism

[WorldBFree2006]

Cont... The only reason conservatives want to scrap the department of education is because it (a) forbids the teaching of creationism in public schools and (b) does not allow a teacher-led prayer.

[rawREN]

EarthBSlaved2010 wrote: "... the money that should have been going to education was instead spent on faith-based initiatives and god-forsaken wars."

Absolute NONSENSE! Faith based initiatives? Which ones, where? And the "wars" have a different budgeting process than education. America spends nearly 11k per student, more than 200k per average classroom, and what do we have to show for it? The problems in education are mostly in BUREAUCRATIC, not in any (alleged) inability to get funding.

[Kay32Dee]

Robert Bork or Pork is an AssHole!!!! I would kick his ass if I seen him in the streets see if the Law could protect this old ass vitimin C deficient looking ass hole!!!!! Fuck the Right Wing!!!!!!

[Yowzoe]

While I agree with your underlying sentiment, you're not doing your cause any favors by your expletive-filled, illiterate rant.

Teach yourself how to spell and speak, and come up with an actual argument -- don't just fling shit against what you think is bad. If your intent is to change hearts and minds, you'll have to do better. Otherwise you just hurt those who agree with your outlook.

Why I spent the last two minutes of my life writing this can be explained by one word: procrastination.

[PsychoPunk1965]

During the 1980s; a consequence of the Reagan Revolution was a dark time for unions, civil liberties, the concept of free thinking, and all other issues pertaining to liberty. One of the few victories to take comfort in was the progressives working like hell to pressure mainstream liberals to not confirm Robert Bork to the US Supreme Court.

[prrolg]

That was a dark victory.

[KidSheIeen]

@PsychoPunk1965 You're right. It was pressure on Senators by narrow but energetic groups that brought the cowards in line to keep their cushy jobs. What the hell else would they do if they lost an election?

[Westbranch83]

as it sounds for two reasons

1. No state would ever try to have poll taxes or literacy tests again regardless

2. His explanation was thoroughly logical and Constitutionally based. I think most sensible people realize that a judge who faithfully interprets the Constitution, even if it leads to conclusions we may disagree with (like poll taxes), is better than a judge who rules based on his own instinct about what's "just" or "fair." The first is the rule of law, the second the rule of men.

[cdogg131990]

you do know that all the law is supposed to do is provide justice. Thats all it is there to do. Supreme Court justices should always do what they think is "just", if it's wrong and you go along with it your just being an idiot.

[bmf1706]

Um, no. The Supreme Court is supposed to interpret the Constitution. If the Constitution said kill all idiots, they'd have to uphold it...

[cdogg131990]

Dude if the supreme court always went by the constitution then segregation would've lasted a lot longer and it might still be around today. I understand the SC interprets the constitution. I'm not an idiot I'm just not a racist or even a conservative. I'm saying law should at its heart try to achieve justice and if it doesn't do that to the best of it's ability it fails. If law doesn't try to achieve justice why is there a law to uphold pointless rules, just think a little bit bro.

[bmf1706]

I agree that the SC should do what they think is just. But if they think that Slavery is "just" then they can't overrule the Constitution. Now, I agree that law should do that.

[Westbranch83]

Wow, so instead we got Anthony Kennedy of Kelo v. New London fame. It's a good thing we have People for the American Way, or else we might actually have a principled, competent jurist instead of that arrogant, overbearing, syrupy windbag who occupies the Court's center today.

I don't agree that the commercial is complete lies though - Bork did indeed question Harper v. VA Bd. of Elections, which struck down a poll tax, during his confirmation hearings. But this isn't near as bad [cont]

[Butim2]

Slander. A fine jurist and good American.

[dseanmat]

You are exactly right. Judge Bork served for 5 1/2 years on the federal bench before his nomination came up. In all that time he had written 107 majority decisions, not one of which was ever overturned by a higher court. And 6 of his minority dissents became the basis for Supreme Court majority decisions. A brilliant jurist, and a victim of the second-worst left wing hit job in history (the other being Clarence Thomas). Gregory Peck was a fine actor but no legal scholar.

[prrolg]

Judge Bork is brilliant indeed.

[Superplatanoman]

Bork is a nut

[BobReidy]

I am a Republican and I would have voted against Bork.He was and is to damn conservative and had views I disagreed with.

[cskirk]

This commercial was a complete lie.

[mnoms]

No, it's not. Bork was not in favor of the ruling that struck down poll taxes, did not believe that an unenumerated right to privacy was protected by the Constitution, and was against many of the Warren Court's rulings on civil rights issues. While his supporters say that he is just a Constitutional originalist, his views on the free speech and the Establishment Clause are absolutely against the original intent of the Constitution's writers.

[wilverbal]

If I'm not in favor of the ruling that put a constitutional ceiling on punitive damages, does that mean that I oppose putting a ceiling on punitive damages? No. It only means that I'm not arrogant enough to think that all my opinions must be found somewhere in the Constitution.

[wilverbal]

Liars. Bork didn't say he was in favor of poll taxes or literacy tests; he didn't defend them as policy. You people really have no shame. You had lots of lawyers working for you; you had to have known that you were distorting Bork's stated positions. But hey, truth is no obstacle when you've got a cause to serve, right?

[KOHF34]

Look up Harper v. VA Bd. of Elections

[wilverbal]

Are you a person who can't distinguish between "I'm in favor of x" and "I think x does not violate the Constitution"?