Dune Message

[UserAlan1]

Well that's alot of typing hope it doesn't seem like too much, but that is according to the Gospels. I love Dune too so much, all its amazingness, the deep symbolism, and Toto! ;) Jung is fantastic too, talks about the deep things inside us, things all humanity deals with. We are all so much more alike than different. Your seeking is wonderful my friend, but we must be seekers of the Truth. For the Lord Said I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life :) God Bless you and His Mercy and Love on us all!

[UserAlan1]

That is why God being perfect was unified with man first as Jesus, doing all that needed to be done. He Loves us so much He does not want anyone to be without that Hope, He loves us too much to have any one who wants to be with Him not be able to be. So He did it all himself. That is why Jesus is So awesome.

[UserAlan1]

Perfect peace for eternity is not easy. It is almost like chaos theory and when forever is the timeframe, any problem of anything will come up. That is why all sin must be removed from the way. We have a choice, whether we will hold on to our sins as they are removed, or whether we will let them go and be freed to union with God. God is perfect and pure, He has to be to run everything, we can't even imagine the focus that must take. To be Unified with Him we must be perfect.

[UserAlan1]

" But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." John 3:21 God came as Jesus so that all of our sins could be will be taken away for any who want and accept the sacrifice and gift, so that when we leave this life and move on we have no burdens to carry with us. The reason purity and perfection is so important is that it took only one bad being to mess everything up from the beginning.

[UserAlan1]

" Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed." The Gospel of John 3:18-20 and...

[UserAlan1]

The Point of Jesus coming is mankind needs help, we all do. I believe we can all agree on that. God's Love brings us home to peace and eternal life in Heaven with Him, " The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" John 1:29 If you want something done right, do it yourself, " ' I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God." John 1:34 The Point of Jesus's Love is bringing us to a Relationship in Love with God again

[UserAlan1]

Hello friend, I have to say that thought is Plagianism and it is incorrect because it is written in the Bible, " This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." Romans 3:22-24 we have all come short of the perfection of God. But that alone is not the point of Jesus salvation, He is our redeemer

[whedonfreak976]

Thank you so much Lyssa you are so kind and sweet :D

[TEMPLEKING1974]

Earn a PhD in Physics, experience an Ego Death, then come in contact with the Orion Greys.

[0B1ken0bi]

u all miss the true essence of what Dune is about, everyone awakens , we are all put to sleep (meaning) we are unaware of what is so. only the 1 can do battle and live for he is in posession of all the tools , words and symbols. the spice and the worm are metaphors.. the spice is in fact seamon . these things have been hiden from the masses for too long , now is the time to reveal the Truth to the entire universe.

[0B1ken0bi]

All Religion is man made , Jesus is the beast. and the prophesy is true. basically religion seeks the 1 to destroy him , but the 1 is beyond death. the 1 walks the earth right now waiting for the time to act. Dune is basically what has happened but also what will also happen.

[regimeman]

Er say sadly like it's a bad thing. I meant to say you are sadly mistaken if you think Herbert was trying to further any religious movement like Christianity.

[regimeman]

Sadly Herbert was referring more to Islam as well.

Read his bio.

[h2o2aerobe]

The parallels are: It is the messiah that takes the water of life and lives. He is revealed as a true human. He pleases his father with his awakening. The light of his truth shines within. He controls the worms. He shows other how to have true freedom.

[vettemuziekjes]

what nonsense, a perversion of great SF

[Mhm5213]

"A person needs new experiences....with out change something sleeps inside us an so it awakens. The sleep must awaken."

It maybe a reference to Buddhism. To be enlightened is to be awake. In the movie Paul consumes the water of life. Which is the life force of Dune. This in-turn awakens him. Mediation is the practice of connecting with the life of the cosmos. Mediation leads to enlightenment.

I support all and no beliefs.

[AspiringPotato]

So are you trying to hijack an awesome movie to proselytize or something?

[franbino]

thats a shame............

[JEYJAN]

To crashman6: What could be more logical than simply being reborn after death, regardless of any past deeds. Makes more sense than any religious bullshit that you probably believe.

[goforit3]

Your religion is dead, there is something soo much more inspiring and sacred than the macabe mortal bullshit. Something that is truly eternal, seek it, love it, grow.

[russellcalkins]

Hear the word of the Lord, goforit3

For this people's heart has become calloused;  they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them

[DanceCakes]

i love dune!

[JEYJAN]

There is no Heaven. There is no Hell. Consequence is a human created concept. After our physical matter selves expire our consciousnesses are simply recycled. Reborn if you will. Or not. Maybe some of us can float around as ghosts for awhile. who knows.

[crashman6]

Well you certainly don't know for sure if heaven and hell exist or not. Accept your ignorance and banish your arrogance. Have a nice day.

[jmm1233]

by the way your using an atheist point of view in a religious context ,

frank was an atheist but a very knowledgable one

[Wolverine1228]

Dune expresses many of the christian themes that are present in other subtle and equally symbolic, religiously based, powerful imagery. Right down to the many hints to the passion play. I love Hebert's books "Dune". David Lynch was the best pick to direct this movie. "Dune" is still one of my favorite stories to both read and watch.I believe the message was to open the people's eyes and see the benefits of spirituality: the option of belief, hope, and power.

"He who controls the spice..."

[loafpork]

This would've been better without the biblical excerpts. It's not necessary.

[Nepze123]

intresting...

[LordMalice6d9]

It actaully makes me wonder. If the Jesus we're familiar with in our world had to die for the "supposed" salvation of mankind? Then would that very same philosophical belief be the same on planets in space who are Aliens similar to humans. Would they need someone to die for them as well? Or would those extraterrestrial lifeforms follow a completely different set of moral and ethical laws than humans to the extent that they wouldn't need someone to die for them? To many questions, so few answers.

[Blake4014]

He did not die for the salvation of mankind, he was the divine example set to mankind, everyone must be like him, "I am the way" the spirit of Christ-love/compassion/kindnes­s for redemption. Only the church confuses the truth and mixes it with falsehoods. This planet is the only hellhole that needs redeeming, noone else in the universe is so ignorant and stupid as us humans.

[sunergos7]

"He did not die for the salvation of mankind, he was the divine example set to mankind, everyone must be like him" this is the the ancient heresy of Pelagianism

[TWCGroup]

@Blake4014

There is no way you could know that. 

[singlecellorganism13]

@Blake4014 Well said.

Also Jesus proved God's point that a man "will be faithful to death" and is not dependent on "God putting a hedge around him" - see the book of Job.

"Satan" accused God of 'hedging' people, and they only 'worship' him because he provides. Jesus proved Satan a liar.

"help answer him who accuses me day and night"

[vesperus1981]

@Blake4014 "jesus came so all men may have salvation by him" you like this movie too much....

[USSRangel85]

@LordMalice6d9 I myself am an Eastern Orthodox Christian, and some of our Theology "specialists" had thought about the things you ask here. It is indeed a very interesting set of questions. And in the second part of 20th century some of the thoughts om my Church were that - if there was a life on other planets Jesus was needed there too, and His Divinity would be "usefull" even for aliens who didn't "fall" as humans on earth did. He would inspire and change their existence too...

[ForeverEmunah]

@LordMalice6d9 Simple. There aren't any other intelligent species in the universe.

There are likely animals on other planets that are non-sentient, but we are the only sentient species.

Jesus never had to go to any other world - He only had to come here.

[LordMalice6d9]

This film doesn't just have certain biblical similaries but Arabic as well.

Frank Herbert was obviously inspired by many different and philosphies & Religions when he wrote this story.

Bene Gesserith in Arabic means 'the Children of the Peninsula'. The Arabic Peninsula that is, Jeziret ul Arab.. Yes he constructed a great World, Frank Herbert, is genius.

Though its kinda confusing to an extent.

[leemailme]

Wow, I checked out your site, and man do you have it all wrong!

The sleeper awakening refers to the Fremen people.

Dune is about a man playing God, it's not about Jesus. The Bene Gesserits manipulated entire populations into believing various religions, for their own purposes. They did it so that the general populace remained docile and obedient, and so that they could further manipulate them, should they need to. This is why Paul was their Lisan al Gaib

You, my friend, are being manipulated.

[Blake4014]

Thank you for your comment, I will think on it.

[mowriter]

Of course Frank Herbert's point was not to lead people to Jesus. The author if this piece is simply pointing out the parallels of the movie with the biblical Jesus.

Blake: nicely done; I love this movie and of course in my mind, as a person of faith, can't help but draw parallels, unintentional though they were.

[Blake4014]

Thank you mowriter, my thought also.

[KronicAddict]

Some of that seemed like kind of a stretch.

Don't change the aspect ratio next time.

I'm actually referring to two different things there, lol. I didn't realize how that came out.

[jediyassin]

Amen.