@PaisleyPlace You do realize a relationship is supposed to work both ways in fact that's why the fuck it's called a relationship! It bugs me even more when an abortion goes without that partner knowing. Your partner really has doubts post abortion when he's not been notified.
@PaisleyPlace You are a dumb ass. Ever heard of late term abortion? Yeah when the baby is almost born and some babies that survived abortion are killed any ways. A fetus is allot bigger than a microbe dumb fuck. If it was it would simply be killed by the needle. They can grow to be the size bigger than an iPod. What the duck makes you think pro lifers hate kids?
Women and men are responsible for all life the bring into this world if they didn't want a baby they should've kept there pants zipped up. You chose to have sex that's your fault now you're punishing the child by penalty of death by your mistake.
@MrAwesomesauce101 You ARE NOT PUNISHING ANYTHING!!! It's not even the size of a microbe when abortions take place! Grow a brain and just be thankful you live in a country where you can procreate & live on welfare your entire life & other women who are clearly more enlightened than you will go about life by not putting more children out there who cannot be adequately cared for by the old Bush Reich's "Love the fetus; Hate the child!" routine! There's reason abortion's legal!
@MrAwesomesauce101 FYI: Nobody has control over my body or what I do with it - not even my husband! So go put that in your baseball team worth of children ideas and smoke it. Then, you go through several so-called foster care homes & institutions where challenged kids live and tell me they aren't better off if they had been aborted while smaller than a 10th of a grain of rice! I DARE YOU! I know you won't respond or you'll claim they're great; U won't admit that they're not!
I find it hilarious how the Pro-Lifers show pictures of these mature fetuses that are clearly beyond the 27-week gestation period when in the week 0-18 (give or take a week) the fetus is the size of a grain of rice, if even that large & it cannot survive outside of the uterus & without the umbilical chord! Grow up! I don't tell you what to do to ur body & u have no business telling another woman what to do with her body either! Get over yourselves & stop using religion to justify ur wrong cause!
@MrAwesomesauce101 You are a moron and contrary to YOUR DEMENTED BELIEFS, YOU CANNOT FORCE A WOMAN TO CARRY SOMETHING IN HER BODY THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT! Women are not chattel to be told what and were to do anything. Those chains were broken a long time ago. Sit in your ivory tower until a piece large enough hits your head to knock sense into it. Btw, would you be open to a woman making the choice to surgically remove your penis w/o YOUR PERMISSION? You're clueless!
The Pro-Lifers (Pro-Liars) are a lot like George "Lil' Boy" Bush. They love the fetus but hate the child! They seem to forget there's a lot more to being a parent of a child than simply carrying the child in A WOMAN'S BODY through delivery. There are years of supporting said child, generally alone, as many dad's of these children take off and are never seen again leaving the Pro-Lied to woman alone to raise this child w/little to NO access to health care thx to lack of Nat. Healthcare programs!
@petehjr1 And you're right. Having a child is dangerous. I went through 2 high-risk pregnancies after being told I'd likely never conceive & if I did, I'd likely never carry to term. It was the luck of the draw but in that luck came a lot of dangerous curve balls like pre-eclampsia, placenta previa, heart problems, heart condition in oldest child, & req'd set up of emergency OR in case a c-section was needed. My dr said it'd take 60s to get me under & 90s to get my child out. It's up from 10yrs+
@TanaCooker I don't think it's as much fear as it is the fact these morons are downright pissed b/c they can't control a woman's mind nor can they control a woman's actions if and when she should get pregnant. I have 2 daughters, One is a married adult. If she came to me & "said we aren't ready & I'm going for an abortion," I'd make sure she was certain & if so, I'd stand by her & her husband in any way they needed me even if it was just holding hands; hwr,I'd NEVER HATE HER! I'd be a mom w/love
Yes, I am a better person for it. I'm not the one in the face of a woman who has to make such a decision and be the one who has to live with it. You don't give women much credit so that makes you either a man or some bitch who has to have your nose up someone's ass trying to make sure their shit is the right color. You can't exist without knowing everyone's business. I hate to break it to you but IT'S NOT YOUR DAMN BUSINESS! That's between a woman & her doctor, not the neighborhood know-it-all!
@PaisleyPlace actually i'm a seventeen year old girl and i wasn't being sarcastic. I'm serious. that does make you a good person and it's just a fact of life that crazy religious kooks are gonna be crazy religious kooks. but don't be so quick to tear my throat out.
@TanaCooker I'm just sick of their crap! They sit outside abortion clinics claiming "oh, we'll help you raise your baby, get formula, diapers, clothes, etc..." yet they disappear when that baby is no longer a baby and instead a toddler or teenager. They don't come around to babysit when you desperately need a break! They disappear in the woodwork once you need help; it's atrocious. It's 1 of many reasons as to why I'm not Christian & never will be. Woman's body = HER CHOICE!
Perhaps the Pro-Lifers should start acting like real parents to their own children vs teaching hate of others who have different views than their own. I find it sad that all Pro-Lifers can do is spew hate everywhere they reside & congregate. These are not decent mothers or fathers. They are the ones who should have been aborted. It sure would save their kids a bundle in therapy bills.
It's so gratifying that there are still people who won't goie up to the demands of the feminist controlled state and cower away from this important subject.
How can you expect people to listen to your views if you are angry, mean spirited, and a "one trick pony".....
Do you have any real points on why abortions shouldn't be done, or are you going to keep regurgitating the same mindless dribble that we've all heard for years. I use to care about this issue, but now I cringe when I hear a pro-life speaker. You've become boring and you judge people at their most desperate, vulnerable hour just to vomit hate.
@carmel350 I think your heart is basically in the right place, but you need to learn manners. I am prolife, but looking at the words you're using, and adding them to your poor grammar and spelling, along with your wonderful use of all caps...I'm sorry but it just makes the rest of the prolife movement look bad. We need to speak to people who don't understand or disagree with us with love and compassion. Using foul language and shouting all the time only feeds the anger and resentment.
Abortion clinics aren't regulated by the state because of religious idiots in charge deciding to impose their beliefs on other people. They 'care' about that unborn child alright. Just as much as they cut its education off 5 years later. Practically the only reason why they would want more babies to to have less educated people in the world to continue voting for them.
I can't imagine how over populated it would be without contraceptives and abortion in the U.S today.
youtube has sum nasty ppl who comment. im pro life nt an extremist bt i beleive in the living if u dnt wnt kids use contraceptive its a no brainer. dnt abort adopt theres so many wonderful ppl who cnt have kids i know some. ye i wnt 10 yrs ago wi my lovely friend whod been drugged/raped by more than 1 man n i wnt to support her she was 3wks gone i love her shed been thru omg the most horrific time i wasnt there to judge.i dnt need to insult to get my pov across. treat ppl as u wnt 2 be treated
@carmel350 you said it your sat there laughing your fat ass off at something your so obv against. i dnt n wt justify myself for being there for my friend. so go bother someone else will you as me and my friends think you are CRAZY!!!!! im all for pro life but you are way too extreme you need to chill maybe take a pill or 10 and calm down youl end up with high blood pressure at this rate. well im off to get my son to school and enjoy my day. bye for now ; )
@carmel350 carmel come on be reasonable im not a horrible or bad person. i was young when i went with my friend i guess what she went through we were in shock and she just went with what her peers told her to do but no one was willing to be there with her even the dr told her and arranged everything i saw my friend who needed me. im not going to appolagise for that. does she regret it yes did i see things i wished id never seen yes. i am all for life.
@carmel350 i may just do that. where i live iv never even heard of a pro life march happening. with the nhs being free its alot easier for women/girls to have a termination it doesnt cost them no money. i am sure there are girls having terminations like its contraceptive. i even heard of one head nurse whos daughter fell pregnant and her mum carried the termination out at home so no one would know but she will gladly do a termination on other ppls daughters. sick! i'm on here educating myself.
@1lilleth SO, YOU ASSISTED IN WHAT YOU CONCIDER TO BE JUSTIFIED MURDER! MURDER IS MURDER, THAT CHILD WAS ALSO A VICTIM. DO YOU BELIEVE ALL CHILDREN SHOULD BE KILLED IF THEIR FATHERS WERE RAPIST?
@carmel350 i have told you once why do you need telling again? is this the highlight of your day arguing with me? thats sad camel. no i dnt agree with all raped women should have abortions but in this case it was different it was my friend who had multiple men she was very young and it was 10 yrs ago. .....what next carmel???? what else can you hate me for? your so full of hate. sad!
@carmel350 hates a strong word. and for the record i dnt justify murdering children. you are an extremist. you have no empathy for the living only if its a fetus or a baby f*** the women eh!!! ye!....nice.
@carmel350 i dnt know why you are being so horrible for a pro lifer you sure are angry and nasty. i can read i can also write sorry to shock you too much. as you put it so nice the men f**** the women yes they sure do even when the women doesnt want to.
@1lilleth YES, EXACTLY, EVEN WHEN THE WOMAN DOESN'T WANT TO, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE MEN WHO FORCE THERE DICKS ON WOMEN DOES IT? ONLY ABOUT 6% OF RAPIST WILL EVER GO TO JAIL, HOW SICK IS ARE SOCIETY, JUST GOES TO PROVE MEN RULE!
@carmel350 no it doesn't nothing happened to the men who abused and raped my friend as she had been out drinking and app wasn't a reliable witness. its just sick. unfortinatly men do rule they shouldnt as most the time they need women to tell them what to do. there are so many things wrong with this world i wouldn't know where to start.
@carmel350 wrote "ONLY ABOUT 6% OF RAPIST WILL EVER GO TO JAIL, HOW SICK IS ARE SOCIETY, JUST GOES TO PROVE MEN RULE!"
You are misusing statistics. The full statistic would be - 6% of men acused of being rapiests are found to be guilty and punished. - This is very different to 6% of rapists are punished for their crimes.
Since it is impossible to actually know the correct number of rapes making a judgement about the number of convictions being low is illogical.
@carmel350 what? you are way too much for this time on a mornin g have a cup of tea and calm down. i will be there for my friends no matter what i dnt judge your so tunnel vision with this it wouldnt matter what i said you would find negativity in my words. u say i am defensive what and your not? dnt make me laugh u only have to read ur comments to see that. and hate are you religious? i hope not hate pretty strong words!
@1lilleth BTW, I SAID I HATE PEOPLE JUSTIFY KILLING BABIES, I DID NOT SAY I HATE PEOPLE, DUMB BITCH! LIKE I SAID,LEARN TO READ, YOU MUST FIND IT EMBARASSING TO BE SO ILITERATE?
@carmel350 yes i am so illiterate i can actually spell the word illiterate right, two l's carmel not one. you are becoming more and more immature by the second it is like talking to a child who just throws insults as radiculas as yours. it could not be that my keyboard is sticking could it oh no i must be stupid well yet again you are wrong it is actually quite sad to think an actual grown up abuses people because of thier spelling how judgemental again i have fugured you out. pro life really?
@carmel350 "BTW, I SAID I HATE PEOPLE JUSTIFY KILLING BABIES, I DID NOT SAY I HATE PEOPLE, DUMB BITCH! LIKE I SAID,LEARN TO READ, YOU MUST FIND IT EMBARASSING TO BE SO ILITERATE?"
It wouldn't be so funny if you had not typed that post in cap locks.
@carmel350 She's saying crap that isn't true. "they forcibly pry the cervix open" NO....they put a piece of seaweed in and let it gradually open itself. Disgusting either way but still....if she claims to be on the side of pro-life she needs to get her facts straight.
not all abortions are done like that when i was pregnant i went over by 12 days so they had to induce me chemically they do practise abortions this way too so theres no physically opening the cervix. i have freinds who have had abortions and it wasnt an easy option for them either but i was there for them one friend was quite nad with it and was in alot of pain and ill afterwards.
@carmel350 what the fuck r you talking about they the doctors/ midwives had to induce my labour as my sons heart rate was dropping dramatically you idiot 4 my health and my sons who is 10 now and thriving at everything. they put a drip in my arm which brings on your labour. your a freaking idiot thats talking shit!! oh and i also had a miscarriage at 6mnths 2 yrs ago so you can fucking go to hell motherfucker id love to bump into you! i said my friend had a termination not me. i pity the fool!
@carmel350 see there you go again assuming. its radiculas. im actually a bloody good mother my son is the sweetest boy iv done a good job : ) i know im a good mum your the one who sent me a horrible reply when i havnt had a termination? you dnt know me and i wouldnt want to know someone as judgmental as you!! as for my reply if u going to give it out then expect it back mate! obv u cnt! you started insulting me first ha you are a joke and if your ever a parent or are 1 god help your kids!
@1lilleth YEAH I AM A PARENT OF FOUR WONDERFUL CHILDREN, MY OLDEST WORKS WITH TOUBLED TEENS, ONE SON JUST RECIEVED HIS DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE, THIRD CHILD HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS, AND MY LOVELY DAUGHTER IS BEAUTIFUL BRILLIANT, SHE SINGS, ACTS, PLAYS GUITAR, AND ALL HER TEACHERS SAY NOTHING BUT WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HER, I AM SO BLESSED! I'M GLAD MY "POOR AS DIRT LIFE" DIN'T CLOUD MY JDGEMENT. POVERTY IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, POVERTY IS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO TRULY BE ABLE TO LOVE!
@carmel350 ok so you can reply to me in caps basically shouting at me saying i burned my baby alive when i never, thats a horrible nasty comment to make if you have such wonderful children and four of them then you should know how scary it is when you have your first child and you go over by 12 days and doctors take over saying 'we'll have to start your labour off with a hormone drip' no burning of babys. i never mentioned poverty so dnt know what thats about? money has nothing to do with love.
@1lilleth I'M NOT SHOUTING OK, I LIKE MY CAPS AND I FEEL IT'S MY "CHOICE" TO USE THEM. TRY NOT TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE YOU ARE WEAK AND NEED SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP IF SOMEONE ON YOUTUBE CAN RUIN YOUR DAY!
@carmel350 I AM NOT AN ANGRY PERSON, I AM AMAZED AT HOW PEOPLE SEEM TO BE WHEN IT COMES TO DESTOYING HUMAN LIFE! IT'S DISCUSTING, BARBARIC, DEHUMANIZING...IT'S GENOCIDE! WHEN YOU WAKE UP, REALLY LOOK AT THE ABSOLUTE HORROR OF IT ALL, YOUR GUILT WILL CONSUME YOU! GOD DID NOT GIVE YOU THAT WONDERFUL, ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE GIFT, SO YOU COULD DISTROY IT'S FLESH, AND TRY TO JUSTIFY IT! PLEASE I'M BEGGING ALL OF YOU TO WAKE UP! IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE SILENT, THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS TOO!
@BellHavens A large percentage of scientists believed Eugenics to be true, and had so-called scientific proof to back it up, look it up.
Of course we all have a brain though(not to mention conscience/intuition), and capable of actually understanding, inspecting and reasoning out facts intelligently for ourselves, and deducing what the truth is- or at least we should be able to.
@BellHavens UMM, MOST COMPLICATIONS FROM CHILDBIRTH COME FROM THE MOTHER HERSELF, EITHER UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS SUCH AS DIABETES, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, ANEMIA ETC... THOSE RISK ARE THERE BEFORE THE BABY ! PLEASE RESEARCH BETTER!
@carmel350 i didnt have any of those problems my 1st pregnancy was great even the 12 days i wnt over the docs wanted me to have a c section but i wanted to hang on on to see if i my body could deliver him. i am a healthy person who eats healthy exercises. the bs about the cervix muscles is purely bs how can women have 6 kids then? if what she says is true if the cervix expands enough for a baby to come out it will never retract......wrong it does. your nasty you assume and jump to conclusions.
@1lilleth YOU ARE WIERD, IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE DEBATES, I SUGGEST GO DO SOMETHING ELSE, I'M NOT EVER BACKING DOWN FROM TRYING TO SAVE THE UNBORN INNOCENT CHILD THAT HAS NO VOICE, I'M CONFUSED BY HOW UTTERLY HATEFUL PEOPLE GET ABOUT THE UNBORN CHILD, YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE 100% THAT THIS CHILD HAS NO RIGHTS, THAT IS SO FUCKING DEHUMANIZING! YOU PEOPLE ARGUE AGAINST MEDICAL SCIENCE AND FACTS, DO YOU REALLY KNOW HOW DUMB AND DUMBER YOU ALL SOUND?
@carmel350 why be so persona? you dnt know me you have misunderstood my pov i can debate quite well actually im not weak i went through hell in my childhood and ppl cnt blieve how strong a person i am. i didnt say i was all for abortions i went with a friend to support her. thats my right thanks. everything i say you turn into hatred its disturbing. you didnt ruin my day but when u snt me the first comment u reminded me of my misscarriage. doesnt matter what i say you obv have a dislike 4 me.
@carmel350 i never said i was noble i was there for her for reasons youl never understand she was drugged with rohypniol and went through the worst time in her life found wondering the streets so it was her decision as there was more than one male who had raped her for her to do what she had to do i wasnt there to JUDGE!!! I WAS THEREB TO SUPPORT MY FRIEND OF 17YRS WHOM I LOVE!! YOU OBV DNT LIKE ME DNT MATTER WHAT I SAY YOU HAVE A NEGATIVE RESPOND?? ITS BEGINING TO BORE ME NOW. YAWN!
@carmel350 when did i say the child has no rights? i am not a dehumanising person i think everything has a right to live humans and animals. whats your problem is? u misunderstood me having a 'hormonal drip' in my arm with a saline abortion. no dr arent gods they couldnt save my unborn child. everything you say to me about what u think i am you sound like your like that? maybe u need help? and if ppl do nd help so what? i dnt know what else 2 say 2 u? ur msg under this says what ur like.
@carmel350 OH HERE WE GO AGAIN..YAWN. ALL I SAID IS I DNT LIKE ANYTHING BEING KILLED. OMG THERES JUST NO TALKING TO YOU IS THERE. YOU SAY I HAVE PROBLEMS WELL YOUR MANNERS ARE DISCUSTING. I DNT WANT YOU TO REPLY TO ME ANYMORE YOU HAVE A ONE TRACK MIND YOU JUDGE AND ARE NASTY I DNT KNOW ANYONE IN MY LIFE THAT RESPONDS THE WAY YOU DO U ASSUME YOU ARE SITING BEHIND UR PC AND THE NEGATIVITY U SEND IS AWFUL. I DNT KNOW BUT GOODBYE. I AM PRO LIFE BT U DIDNT BOTHER TO EVEN ASK U JUST INSULTED. LOVELY!
@ColdLance i havnt typed any of my posts in caps i dnt feel the needt to 'shout' or come off overly aggressive or to get attention thanks! if you read the posts properly all the posts in caps are from careml350 and it says @ 1lilleth which means they are to me. jeezy peeps maybe you should read posts properly before you respond to them? how about you send the same reply to carmel350 as you did to me seeing as she is the one who is using caps all the time!
The video Eclipse of Reason is a real video and was made but the issues it deals with don't relate to the real world in places. It paints an ideal world and makes strawmens with the use a dichotomy that may not exist in the real world.
@1lilleth DON'T GIVE A FLYING RATS ASS ABOUT YOUR PREGNANCY EXPERIENCE, I'VE HAD FOUR CHILDREN "EVERYONE" OF MY PREGNANCIES WAS DIFFERENT, NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, DOCTORS ARE NOT GOD! AND BTW, SCIENCE IS SO FAR ADVANCED NOW THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO OPERATIONS ON THE UNBORN TO CORRECT DEFECIENTCIES, IMAGINE THAT! UNBORN BABIES BEING OPERATED ON!!!!
Why was this not advertised as a pro-life rant in your misleading title? I'm not even pro-choice and I felt the urge to heave at every manipulative, untrue word.
The procedure you are describing is a D&C, very commonly performed after NATURAL miscarriages.
An incompetent cervix can result from anything from rough sex to a natural miscarriage. Some people just have a weak muscle.
If you were that capable of a teacher, you would know that.
Hmm... then what are Kegel exercises and why do they work??
Also -any "surgeries are dangerous"? True, but 25% of women giving birth in America have a surgery to do it - a C-section; those are much more complicated surgeries than abortions and involves a huge open wound. Definitely less safe than an abortion.
@dmoor032 I agree, except that it's worst. Rather than millions, we're dealing with 100's of millions that have been aborted worldwide, and even worst than the Holocaust(not to take away from how terrible it was), it's the tiniest and most defenseless that are exclusively targeted.
We resent that the value of a woman is determined by whether some man wants us, yet we declare that the value of an unborn child is determined by whether someone wants him. We resent that as women we have been 'owned' by our husbands, yet insist that the unborn are 'owned' by us. We believe that a man's right to do what he pleases with his own body cannot include the right to sexually exploit women, yet proclaim a our similar right means we can kill our unborn child
Jesus christ people. "OMG don't get an abortion because you'll shit in a bag for the rest of your life". durkadurkadur. bug off. Maybe if cunts don't have what it takes to bear and raise a child, maybe they shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Someone should have told my mom. I would have rather been aborted than watch her fail at motherhood. Get a vibrator you dumb bitches. And, obviously, if you need an abortion, don't go to aware woman.
Jesus christ people. "OMG don't get an abortion because you'll shit in a bag for the rest of your life". durkadurkadur. bug off. Maybe if cunts don't have what it takes to bear and raise a child, maybe they shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Someone should have told my mom. I would have rather been aborted than watch her fail at motherhood. Get a vibrator you dumb bitches. And, obviously, if you need an abortion, don't go to aware woman.
abortions may be morally and physically wrong, but the fact that a woman does not want it in her body does allow anyone to force her to keep it. maybe she knows she isn't ready for a baby and doesn't want to give it a bad life. yeah i know, people say if she thought she was responsible , mature, and old enough to have sex and get pregnant she should be able to take care of it. well this is not true. :/
@fhab525 wrote "if abortion is ok and i cant go to jail for it, how come i cant kill somebody and get away wit it too, wats the difference ?"
The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
(Side note: I'm going to get a stamp made with this on...)
What are you talking about stopping a natural process? This happens all the time in nature. It's called miscarriage. And you are WRONG, doctors do NOT have to be board certified. When you look for a family doctor, you usually want a board certified one because you know they are the best. There are plenty of board certified abortion doctors. What you're saying about the uterus flushing itself with blood is exactly why abortions need to remain safe and legal so women don't have at home abortions!
Doesn't matter what the side effects of abortions are, abortion has few side effects than actual pregnancy. Stop using fear tactics to scare women away. If no one regulates them, then how did Dr. James Pendergraft get his office closed? You are contradicting yourself. And this is typical pro-life agenda filled with lies. Abortion doctors are trained gynecologists and obstetricians. And like any doctor, you just need to check first to ensure that they are board certified - not all are.
Abortion is a legal excuse to kill your babies. And since when did women have the right to kill? Oh, I guess since the MAN legalized it, as long as you pay them! You people are so stupid. You don't even realize that the government feeds off of your ignorance everyday. They sell you cigarettes that kill you, allow you kill your babies for a fee. Does that sound like a system that cares for your welfare?
You kill a child OUT of the womb, it's murder and you get sent to jail.
You PAY for an ABORTION, it's completely legal, and you can have a baby sucked, mutilated, and ripped apart right outta your womb, as long as you pay the price for it.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Boy, people now-a-days sure do have great logic...
@CuddlyBubbles1 Watch my video please, and learn something if it's at all possible, and see the difference between abortion and murder. You can't adopt a uterus, and a pregnancy lasts 9 months.
@ryddelwearsahat "You can't adopt a uterus, and a pregnancy lasts 9 months."
What are you talking about? I know that a pregnancy lasts 9 months, and I know that you obviously can't adopt a uterus. When did I ever make it clear that I didn't understand that? And no, I'm not watching any of your videos because abortion is legally killing a life, and no stupid youtube video is going to convince me otherwise.
@CuddlyBubbles1 I'm not denying that abortion is ending a life in any way- I'm just saying that it is sometimes a necessary evil. You make it seem as if you know nothing of childbirth, development or adoption b/c you comment on it being illegal to kill a born person, but fail to see the massive differences in circumstance and intent overall between actual murder and an aboriton.
what I was saying was that it's illegal to kill a person, but yet it's legal and acceptable to kill someone as long as it's in the womb. There's no difference between abortion and murder, and the sooner people accept that, the better. I'm so sick of people sugarcoating the truth. The intent of every murder is to kill the person, which is what the objective of abortion is. there is no massive difference in circumstance.
@CuddlyBubbles1 wrote "what I was saying was that it's illegal to kill a person, but yet it's legal and acceptable to kill someone as long as it's in the womb."
Again, The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
@ryddelwearsahat Most abortions are done to women who just don't want their children, not because they were raped, or the baby is putting their life in jeopardy. Read statistics. It's all on paper.
@CuddlyBubbles1 wrote "You kill a child OUT of the womb, it's murder and you get sent to jail.
You PAY for an ABORTION, it's completely legal..."
The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
Is this being complete?Yes.Nothing new will be added from the time of union of sperm and egg until the death of the old man or woman except growth and development of what is already there at the beginning. All he needs is time to develop and mature
The soul enters the body at birth and first breath. It leaves at death. The soul that is there has to hang around til it's time to get into the body. Before it enter's you have a body growing, not a person. Getting pregnant to begin with is more wrong than abortion. The person's mind was not clear and made an insane mistake to be even thinking of such a thing like abortion later. If pregnancy was a mistake you know there's insanity, immorality, self defense may be necessary.
For goodness sakes, do some research. Google Kansas abortion facts or statistics!! Tiller was a very busy & wealthy man. He got rich off these mothers killing their babies. So they paid Tiller to murder their baby, that way he could send his children to the best schools.Nothing was too good or good enough for his children. Poor, stupid mothers of dead babies!! Hope you enjoyed paying him as much as he enjoyed the money!!
@godfatherguide See and i will disagree with you there.....That baby is a baby once its concieved, when sperm meets egg thats LIFE. Read a bible cause you need some education on what life really is.
We resent that the value of a woman is determined by whether some man wants us, yet we declare that the value of an unborn child is determined by whether someone wants him. We resent that as women we have been 'owned' by our husbands, yet insist that the unborn are 'owned' by us. We believe that a man's right to do what he pleases with his own body cannot include the right to sexually exploit women, yet proclaim a our similar right means we can kill our unborn child
There is a ob/gyn Dr. here on trial. During a C-section,he cut too deep &sliced the baby's cheek open.The parents & nurses were horrified! It required 41 stitches to repair. The prosecuting attorneys say,"Gross negligence,the child is scarred for life".The defense says,"At the time of the injury,the child was not born yet,legally not a person w/rights.I wonder how the jury will vote?
If there is a God, An all powerful one, he will punish people who have abortions if indeed they are wrong like some predominantly faithful people say. No one need waste there time trying to outlaw it on the grounds of faith. Free choice, no one is forcing anyone. You do NOT have to have an abortion yourself.
So in short, religous readnecks please GTFO out of this debate if your arguement rests on morals you believe God gave you.
@ColdLance I DON'T THINK ABORTION WILL EVER BE OUTLAWED BY FAITH, I THINK ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS MODERN SCIENCE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT THE UNBORN ARE LIVING HUMAN BEINGS, WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT OF SCIENCE TO BACK US UP! AND, WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSTITUTION! SO, THE LAWS WILL, AND MUST CHANGE! IT'S WEIRD TO ME HOW MANY STUPID UNEDUCATED PEOPLE THERE ARE, BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE YOUR ALL CHOOSING TO NOT ACCEPT THE "FACTS"! HATE, SWEAR, TRY AND FIGHT BACK, BUT WE SHALL NEVER BACK DOWN!
This video is factually incorrect. The fetus does not have a brain or nervous system until around the 26 week mark not 27 days. THen still it is a while until the brain is complete and able of thought.
And people could stop having sex or they could use condoms and the pill and if needed have an abortion if they acciedently get pregnant as they are not 100% effective all the time. Not having sex is more un-natural than abortions.
The entire debate is subjective. That however is my opinipn on it.
And why have you highlighted the word choice. Are you impling that the anti-abortionist views are in some way more in keeping with the freedom of choice that many countries aim to live by.
@ColdLance Bull. The Mayo Clinic website even states :: Week 6 (4 Weeks gestationally): The neural tube closes Fetal development ***four weeks after conception****
Growth is rapid this week. Just four weeks after conception, the neural tube along your baby's back is closing and your baby's heart is pumping blood.
@ColdLance Hey, genius... the heart starts beating at 3 weeks. This couldn't happen without a brain or nervous system. And you think sexual abstanance is less natural than an invasive surgical procedure with metal tools and suction tubes?? Maybe you're right. It will be "a while until your brain is complete and able of thought."
Don't get me started on those Partial Birth Abortions-just tear that skull open with a scissors please-but just make sure the full baby doesn't come out(it transforms into a human then, something like Optimus Prime),there's a chance you may get arrested for killing it, or worst-it may actually live! (as a preemie or full-term)
@ColdLance THAT'S WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD SAYS TO, BUT WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, AND EVEN IF SHE WAS WRONG, IT'S STILL MURDER, IT'S NOT JUST MURDER IF THE BABY FEELS PAIN! THE HEART BEATS AT 21 DAYS!
@carmel350 wrote "IT'S STILL MURDER, IT'S NOT JUST MURDER IF THE BABY FEELS PAIN! THE HEART BEATS AT 21 DAYS!"
The human heart beating - although poetic and romantic - does not add anything to the argument. The only thing that matters is if that fetus has the ability to feel pain and if it has acquired consciousness.
"fearfully and wonderfully made, right now"... "[the foetus] really wants to be loved by a mother like you"..."it's extremely dangerous to have an abortion"..."abortion clinics... are not regulated by the state" [seriously? they're one of the most heavily regulated health services in the US: Google "Map State Regulation of Abortion"]
Now, keep in mind that these examples of her bullshit were from just the first 1:41. There is more bullshit here, I've just got better things to do.
I cannot believe the amount of lies this woman is spouting. It's actually far more dangerous for a woman to go through with pregnancy and childbirth than it is for her to have an abortion. The world is already overpopulated - there are millions of unwanted children that no-one will ever want to adopt. Why bring more unwanted children into an already overpopulated world?
Why? b/c noone wants to admit they care more about an ideal than real action?
adoptamericanetworkDAWTorg lists 130,000 children waiting0- and more than 70% of them end up homeless, more than half end up in prison- and this is coming from an adoption agency itself!
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abortion is a private issue and should remain so. is anyone familiar with safe home abortions? i hear that europe is returning to the method of carrying out family planning..
It is a woman's reasonable right to choose between going through with having a child when she is not ready to support it, or waiting until she can give her child the best life possible.
Pro-choice is progressive and modern morality. Planned lives and planned futures. Living well and giving good lives to our children in this beautiful world.
There are already so many children without families who are in temporary foster homes and orphanages. Many people want womb fresh babies and not already developing children, but it shouldn't be the job of women who don't want to go through with pregnancy to produce for them.
And, of course, there is the looming matter of overpopulation as well.
This video is all fear tactics and very biased information. Abortions don't hurt and are less dangerous than childbirth. The chance of complications are very minuscule - the examples they provided are only to scare people.
Abortions are immoral according to old religious standards. In our present reality, morality has evolved beyond the repressive constraints of religion.
And I know many women who have had abortions without any complications. They spoke of compassionate doctors and nurses and calm atmospheres. Quick procedures with no pain and only very mild discomfort thanks to use of pain killers. Not to discredit your friend, of course. Some people may experience more pain just as some women experience much more pain when actually give birth.
As for the lady at the end...she has a Ph.D. which means she is a doctor of PHILOSOPHY. She is not a medical doctor. People don't realize that Ph.D. is not the same as MD. An MD actually understands what can keep someone alive or kill them. A Ph.D. just wants to understand the choices that led to their outcome.
This lady at the end has no qualification for her statements at all. She has studied philosophy...and that's all.
@PaisleyPlace You do realize a relationship is supposed to work both ways in fact that's why the fuck it's called a relationship! It bugs me even more when an abortion goes without that partner knowing. Your partner really has doubts post abortion when he's not been notified.
MrAwesomesauce101 6 days ago
@PaisleyPlace You are a dumb ass. Ever heard of late term abortion? Yeah when the baby is almost born and some babies that survived abortion are killed any ways. A fetus is allot bigger than a microbe dumb fuck. If it was it would simply be killed by the needle. They can grow to be the size bigger than an iPod. What the duck makes you think pro lifers hate kids?
MrAwesomesauce101 6 days ago
@PaisleyPlace Reproductive slavery my ass.
Women and men are responsible for all life the bring into this world if they didn't want a baby they should've kept there pants zipped up. You chose to have sex that's your fault now you're punishing the child by penalty of death by your mistake.
MrAwesomesauce101 1 week ago
@MrAwesomesauce101 You ARE NOT PUNISHING ANYTHING!!! It's not even the size of a microbe when abortions take place! Grow a brain and just be thankful you live in a country where you can procreate & live on welfare your entire life & other women who are clearly more enlightened than you will go about life by not putting more children out there who cannot be adequately cared for by the old Bush Reich's "Love the fetus; Hate the child!" routine! There's reason abortion's legal!
PaisleyPlace 6 days ago
@MrAwesomesauce101 FYI: Nobody has control over my body or what I do with it - not even my husband! So go put that in your baseball team worth of children ideas and smoke it. Then, you go through several so-called foster care homes & institutions where challenged kids live and tell me they aren't better off if they had been aborted while smaller than a 10th of a grain of rice! I DARE YOU! I know you won't respond or you'll claim they're great; U won't admit that they're not!
PaisleyPlace 6 days ago
Gruesome!!!!!!!! DDDDDD:
SpecializedChild462 2 months ago
I find it hilarious how the Pro-Lifers show pictures of these mature fetuses that are clearly beyond the 27-week gestation period when in the week 0-18 (give or take a week) the fetus is the size of a grain of rice, if even that large & it cannot survive outside of the uterus & without the umbilical chord! Grow up! I don't tell you what to do to ur body & u have no business telling another woman what to do with her body either! Get over yourselves & stop using religion to justify ur wrong cause!
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
@PaisleyPlace Sorry abortion is murder plan and simple.
MrAwesomesauce101 1 week ago
@MrAwesomesauce101 You are a moron and contrary to YOUR DEMENTED BELIEFS, YOU CANNOT FORCE A WOMAN TO CARRY SOMETHING IN HER BODY THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT! Women are not chattel to be told what and were to do anything. Those chains were broken a long time ago. Sit in your ivory tower until a piece large enough hits your head to knock sense into it. Btw, would you be open to a woman making the choice to surgically remove your penis w/o YOUR PERMISSION? You're clueless!
PaisleyPlace 1 week ago
It's expremely dangerous to be pregnant. You know it's funny since you prolife fundies are usually against regulation.
petehjr1 4 months ago
The Pro-Lifers (Pro-Liars) are a lot like George "Lil' Boy" Bush. They love the fetus but hate the child! They seem to forget there's a lot more to being a parent of a child than simply carrying the child in A WOMAN'S BODY through delivery. There are years of supporting said child, generally alone, as many dad's of these children take off and are never seen again leaving the Pro-Lied to woman alone to raise this child w/little to NO access to health care thx to lack of Nat. Healthcare programs!
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
@petehjr1 And you're right. Having a child is dangerous. I went through 2 high-risk pregnancies after being told I'd likely never conceive & if I did, I'd likely never carry to term. It was the luck of the draw but in that luck came a lot of dangerous curve balls like pre-eclampsia, placenta previa, heart problems, heart condition in oldest child, & req'd set up of emergency OR in case a c-section was needed. My dr said it'd take 60s to get me under & 90s to get my child out. It's up from 10yrs+
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
fucking fearmongerers.
TanaCooker 7 months ago
@TanaCooker I don't think it's as much fear as it is the fact these morons are downright pissed b/c they can't control a woman's mind nor can they control a woman's actions if and when she should get pregnant. I have 2 daughters, One is a married adult. If she came to me & "said we aren't ready & I'm going for an abortion," I'd make sure she was certain & if so, I'd stand by her & her husband in any way they needed me even if it was just holding hands; hwr,I'd NEVER HATE HER! I'd be a mom w/love
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
@PaisleyPlace and therefore you're a good person so you can take comfort in that even though you're not able to do much else about it...
TanaCooker 4 months ago
Yes, I am a better person for it. I'm not the one in the face of a woman who has to make such a decision and be the one who has to live with it. You don't give women much credit so that makes you either a man or some bitch who has to have your nose up someone's ass trying to make sure their shit is the right color. You can't exist without knowing everyone's business. I hate to break it to you but IT'S NOT YOUR DAMN BUSINESS! That's between a woman & her doctor, not the neighborhood know-it-all!
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
@PaisleyPlace actually i'm a seventeen year old girl and i wasn't being sarcastic. I'm serious. that does make you a good person and it's just a fact of life that crazy religious kooks are gonna be crazy religious kooks. but don't be so quick to tear my throat out.
TanaCooker 4 months ago
@TanaCooker I'm just sick of their crap! They sit outside abortion clinics claiming "oh, we'll help you raise your baby, get formula, diapers, clothes, etc..." yet they disappear when that baby is no longer a baby and instead a toddler or teenager. They don't come around to babysit when you desperately need a break! They disappear in the woodwork once you need help; it's atrocious. It's 1 of many reasons as to why I'm not Christian & never will be. Woman's body = HER CHOICE!
PaisleyPlace 1 week ago
Perhaps the Pro-Lifers should start acting like real parents to their own children vs teaching hate of others who have different views than their own. I find it sad that all Pro-Lifers can do is spew hate everywhere they reside & congregate. These are not decent mothers or fathers. They are the ones who should have been aborted. It sure would save their kids a bundle in therapy bills.
PaisleyPlace 4 months ago
thanks, jesus freaks. How did you know that I wanted a science lecture from a jesus freak that knows almost nothing about biology?
marley54fd 7 months ago
It's so gratifying that there are still people who won't goie up to the demands of the feminist controlled state and cower away from this important subject.
Maxshard 8 months ago
How can you expect people to listen to your views if you are angry, mean spirited, and a "one trick pony".....
Do you have any real points on why abortions shouldn't be done, or are you going to keep regurgitating the same mindless dribble that we've all heard for years. I use to care about this issue, but now I cringe when I hear a pro-life speaker. You've become boring and you judge people at their most desperate, vulnerable hour just to vomit hate.
Bring some educated conversations forward
jackieghanavat 9 months ago
@carmel350 I think your heart is basically in the right place, but you need to learn manners. I am prolife, but looking at the words you're using, and adding them to your poor grammar and spelling, along with your wonderful use of all caps...I'm sorry but it just makes the rest of the prolife movement look bad. We need to speak to people who don't understand or disagree with us with love and compassion. Using foul language and shouting all the time only feeds the anger and resentment.
jainerr 9 months ago
Wrong my butt. >.>
Abortion clinics aren't regulated by the state because of religious idiots in charge deciding to impose their beliefs on other people. They 'care' about that unborn child alright. Just as much as they cut its education off 5 years later. Practically the only reason why they would want more babies to to have less educated people in the world to continue voting for them.
I can't imagine how over populated it would be without contraceptives and abortion in the U.S today.
kirabook 10 months ago
If a embryo and a baby are the same thing then can I toss my baby in the freezer?
pchtermino1 10 months ago
youtube has sum nasty ppl who comment. im pro life nt an extremist bt i beleive in the living if u dnt wnt kids use contraceptive its a no brainer. dnt abort adopt theres so many wonderful ppl who cnt have kids i know some. ye i wnt 10 yrs ago wi my lovely friend whod been drugged/raped by more than 1 man n i wnt to support her she was 3wks gone i love her shed been thru omg the most horrific time i wasnt there to judge.i dnt need to insult to get my pov across. treat ppl as u wnt 2 be treated
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth your so unstable, I suggest maybe go knit something!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 ye i'll knit you a straight jacket?? haha! unstable me? maybe when iv had a few vodkas with my friends lol! im so over this its funny.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YOU ARE SO DEFENSIVE, IF YOU WERE TRULY OVER IT, YOU WOULD HAVE NOT EVEN BOTHERED TO RESPOND! LMFAO!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 you said it your sat there laughing your fat ass off at something your so obv against. i dnt n wt justify myself for being there for my friend. so go bother someone else will you as me and my friends think you are CRAZY!!!!! im all for pro life but you are way too extreme you need to chill maybe take a pill or 10 and calm down youl end up with high blood pressure at this rate. well im off to get my son to school and enjoy my day. bye for now ; )
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YEAH I'M SURE YOU WILL, DRIVE SAFE.
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 we walk its better for the environment plus the schools only a few mins away. asuming again.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth NICE TO SEE YOU CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, HOW ABOUT CARING FOR THE UNBORN NOW?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 carmel come on be reasonable im not a horrible or bad person. i was young when i went with my friend i guess what she went through we were in shock and she just went with what her peers told her to do but no one was willing to be there with her even the dr told her and arranged everything i saw my friend who needed me. im not going to appolagise for that. does she regret it yes did i see things i wished id never seen yes. i am all for life.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth IF YOUR FOR LIFE ACT LIKE IT, START BY ATTENDING A PRO-LIFE MARCH! YOU LIKE TO WALK, RIGHT? THAT WILL "KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 i may just do that. where i live iv never even heard of a pro life march happening. with the nhs being free its alot easier for women/girls to have a termination it doesnt cost them no money. i am sure there are girls having terminations like its contraceptive. i even heard of one head nurse whos daughter fell pregnant and her mum carried the termination out at home so no one would know but she will gladly do a termination on other ppls daughters. sick! i'm on here educating myself.
1lilleth 10 months ago
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carmel350 10 months ago
@1lilleth SO, YOU ASSISTED IN WHAT YOU CONCIDER TO BE JUSTIFIED MURDER! MURDER IS MURDER, THAT CHILD WAS ALSO A VICTIM. DO YOU BELIEVE ALL CHILDREN SHOULD BE KILLED IF THEIR FATHERS WERE RAPIST?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 i have told you once why do you need telling again? is this the highlight of your day arguing with me? thats sad camel. no i dnt agree with all raped women should have abortions but in this case it was different it was my friend who had multiple men she was very young and it was 10 yrs ago. .....what next carmel???? what else can you hate me for? your so full of hate. sad!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth I HATE PEOPLE JUSTIFYING MURDER OF CHILDREN!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 hates a strong word. and for the record i dnt justify murdering children. you are an extremist. you have no empathy for the living only if its a fetus or a baby f*** the women eh!!! ye!....nice.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth NO, THE MEN FUCK THE WOMEN, NOT THE BABY!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 i dnt know why you are being so horrible for a pro lifer you sure are angry and nasty. i can read i can also write sorry to shock you too much. as you put it so nice the men f**** the women yes they sure do even when the women doesnt want to.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YES, EXACTLY, EVEN WHEN THE WOMAN DOESN'T WANT TO, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE MEN WHO FORCE THERE DICKS ON WOMEN DOES IT? ONLY ABOUT 6% OF RAPIST WILL EVER GO TO JAIL, HOW SICK IS ARE SOCIETY, JUST GOES TO PROVE MEN RULE!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 no it doesn't nothing happened to the men who abused and raped my friend as she had been out drinking and app wasn't a reliable witness. its just sick. unfortinatly men do rule they shouldnt as most the time they need women to tell them what to do. there are so many things wrong with this world i wouldn't know where to start.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@carmel350 most rapes in America are done in jail so not all guys are on tops of things
JerkingForJesus 9 months ago
@carmel350 wrote "ONLY ABOUT 6% OF RAPIST WILL EVER GO TO JAIL, HOW SICK IS ARE SOCIETY, JUST GOES TO PROVE MEN RULE!"
You are misusing statistics. The full statistic would be - 6% of men acused of being rapiests are found to be guilty and punished. - This is very different to 6% of rapists are punished for their crimes.
Since it is impossible to actually know the correct number of rapes making a judgement about the number of convictions being low is illogical.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance THANKS FOR SHARING!
carmel350 7 months ago
@1lilleth IF YOU COULD ONLY READ, MAYBE ASK YOUR SON TO TEACH YOU!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 what? you are way too much for this time on a mornin g have a cup of tea and calm down. i will be there for my friends no matter what i dnt judge your so tunnel vision with this it wouldnt matter what i said you would find negativity in my words. u say i am defensive what and your not? dnt make me laugh u only have to read ur comments to see that. and hate are you religious? i hope not hate pretty strong words!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth BTW, I SAID I HATE PEOPLE JUSTIFY KILLING BABIES, I DID NOT SAY I HATE PEOPLE, DUMB BITCH! LIKE I SAID,LEARN TO READ, YOU MUST FIND IT EMBARASSING TO BE SO ILITERATE?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 yes i am so illiterate i can actually spell the word illiterate right, two l's carmel not one. you are becoming more and more immature by the second it is like talking to a child who just throws insults as radiculas as yours. it could not be that my keyboard is sticking could it oh no i must be stupid well yet again you are wrong it is actually quite sad to think an actual grown up abuses people because of thier spelling how judgemental again i have fugured you out. pro life really?
1lilleth 10 months ago
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@carmel350 "BTW, I SAID I HATE PEOPLE JUSTIFY KILLING BABIES, I DID NOT SAY I HATE PEOPLE, DUMB BITCH! LIKE I SAID,LEARN TO READ, YOU MUST FIND IT EMBARASSING TO BE SO ILITERATE?"
It wouldn't be so funny if you had not typed that post in cap locks.
ColdLance 7 months ago
OK...i don't believe in abortion...but this lady doesn't sound like she has any idea what she's talking about.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 She's saying crap that isn't true. "they forcibly pry the cervix open" NO....they put a piece of seaweed in and let it gradually open itself. Disgusting either way but still....if she claims to be on the side of pro-life she needs to get her facts straight.
Heatcho 10 months ago
not all abortions are done like that when i was pregnant i went over by 12 days so they had to induce me chemically they do practise abortions this way too so theres no physically opening the cervix. i have freinds who have had abortions and it wasnt an easy option for them either but i was there for them one friend was quite nad with it and was in alot of pain and ill afterwards.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth SO, YOU BURNED YOUR BABY ALIVE, NICE!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 what the fuck r you talking about they the doctors/ midwives had to induce my labour as my sons heart rate was dropping dramatically you idiot 4 my health and my sons who is 10 now and thriving at everything. they put a drip in my arm which brings on your labour. your a freaking idiot thats talking shit!! oh and i also had a miscarriage at 6mnths 2 yrs ago so you can fucking go to hell motherfucker id love to bump into you! i said my friend had a termination not me. i pity the fool!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth WOW, I THINK AN ANGRY PERSON LIKE YOU WILL BE A VERY ILL FIT MOTHER!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 see there you go again assuming. its radiculas. im actually a bloody good mother my son is the sweetest boy iv done a good job : ) i know im a good mum your the one who sent me a horrible reply when i havnt had a termination? you dnt know me and i wouldnt want to know someone as judgmental as you!! as for my reply if u going to give it out then expect it back mate! obv u cnt! you started insulting me first ha you are a joke and if your ever a parent or are 1 god help your kids!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YEAH I AM A PARENT OF FOUR WONDERFUL CHILDREN, MY OLDEST WORKS WITH TOUBLED TEENS, ONE SON JUST RECIEVED HIS DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE, THIRD CHILD HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS, AND MY LOVELY DAUGHTER IS BEAUTIFUL BRILLIANT, SHE SINGS, ACTS, PLAYS GUITAR, AND ALL HER TEACHERS SAY NOTHING BUT WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HER, I AM SO BLESSED! I'M GLAD MY "POOR AS DIRT LIFE" DIN'T CLOUD MY JDGEMENT. POVERTY IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, POVERTY IS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO TRULY BE ABLE TO LOVE!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 ok so you can reply to me in caps basically shouting at me saying i burned my baby alive when i never, thats a horrible nasty comment to make if you have such wonderful children and four of them then you should know how scary it is when you have your first child and you go over by 12 days and doctors take over saying 'we'll have to start your labour off with a hormone drip' no burning of babys. i never mentioned poverty so dnt know what thats about? money has nothing to do with love.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth I'M NOT SHOUTING OK, I LIKE MY CAPS AND I FEEL IT'S MY "CHOICE" TO USE THEM. TRY NOT TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE YOU ARE WEAK AND NEED SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP IF SOMEONE ON YOUTUBE CAN RUIN YOUR DAY!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 I AM NOT AN ANGRY PERSON, I AM AMAZED AT HOW PEOPLE SEEM TO BE WHEN IT COMES TO DESTOYING HUMAN LIFE! IT'S DISCUSTING, BARBARIC, DEHUMANIZING...IT'S GENOCIDE! WHEN YOU WAKE UP, REALLY LOOK AT THE ABSOLUTE HORROR OF IT ALL, YOUR GUILT WILL CONSUME YOU! GOD DID NOT GIVE YOU THAT WONDERFUL, ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE GIFT, SO YOU COULD DISTROY IT'S FLESH, AND TRY TO JUSTIFY IT! PLEASE I'M BEGGING ALL OF YOU TO WAKE UP! IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE SILENT, THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS TOO!
carmel350 10 months ago
Abortion is safer than childbirth. Look it up.
BellHavens 11 months ago
@BellHavens A large percentage of scientists believed Eugenics to be true, and had so-called scientific proof to back it up, look it up.
Of course we all have a brain though(not to mention conscience/intuition), and capable of actually understanding, inspecting and reasoning out facts intelligently for ourselves, and deducing what the truth is- or at least we should be able to.
The truth is not decided by consensus.
Coolworldleaderguy 10 months ago
@BellHavens UMM, MOST COMPLICATIONS FROM CHILDBIRTH COME FROM THE MOTHER HERSELF, EITHER UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS SUCH AS DIABETES, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, ANEMIA ETC... THOSE RISK ARE THERE BEFORE THE BABY ! PLEASE RESEARCH BETTER!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 i didnt have any of those problems my 1st pregnancy was great even the 12 days i wnt over the docs wanted me to have a c section but i wanted to hang on on to see if i my body could deliver him. i am a healthy person who eats healthy exercises. the bs about the cervix muscles is purely bs how can women have 6 kids then? if what she says is true if the cervix expands enough for a baby to come out it will never retract......wrong it does. your nasty you assume and jump to conclusions.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth oh and by the way thanks for upsetting me you made my day!!!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YOU ARE WIERD, IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE DEBATES, I SUGGEST GO DO SOMETHING ELSE, I'M NOT EVER BACKING DOWN FROM TRYING TO SAVE THE UNBORN INNOCENT CHILD THAT HAS NO VOICE, I'M CONFUSED BY HOW UTTERLY HATEFUL PEOPLE GET ABOUT THE UNBORN CHILD, YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE 100% THAT THIS CHILD HAS NO RIGHTS, THAT IS SO FUCKING DEHUMANIZING! YOU PEOPLE ARGUE AGAINST MEDICAL SCIENCE AND FACTS, DO YOU REALLY KNOW HOW DUMB AND DUMBER YOU ALL SOUND?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 why be so persona? you dnt know me you have misunderstood my pov i can debate quite well actually im not weak i went through hell in my childhood and ppl cnt blieve how strong a person i am. i didnt say i was all for abortions i went with a friend to support her. thats my right thanks. everything i say you turn into hatred its disturbing. you didnt ruin my day but when u snt me the first comment u reminded me of my misscarriage. doesnt matter what i say you obv have a dislike 4 me.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth YOU WENT TO SUPPORT KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING? WOW, HOW NOBLE!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 i never said i was noble i was there for her for reasons youl never understand she was drugged with rohypniol and went through the worst time in her life found wondering the streets so it was her decision as there was more than one male who had raped her for her to do what she had to do i wasnt there to JUDGE!!! I WAS THEREB TO SUPPORT MY FRIEND OF 17YRS WHOM I LOVE!! YOU OBV DNT LIKE ME DNT MATTER WHAT I SAY YOU HAVE A NEGATIVE RESPOND?? ITS BEGINING TO BORE ME NOW. YAWN!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@carmel350 when did i say the child has no rights? i am not a dehumanising person i think everything has a right to live humans and animals. whats your problem is? u misunderstood me having a 'hormonal drip' in my arm with a saline abortion. no dr arent gods they couldnt save my unborn child. everything you say to me about what u think i am you sound like your like that? maybe u need help? and if ppl do nd help so what? i dnt know what else 2 say 2 u? ur msg under this says what ur like.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth WELL, ACTUALLY GOD GAVE PEOPLE DOMINION OVER ANIMALS NOT OTHER INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 OH HERE WE GO AGAIN..YAWN. ALL I SAID IS I DNT LIKE ANYTHING BEING KILLED. OMG THERES JUST NO TALKING TO YOU IS THERE. YOU SAY I HAVE PROBLEMS WELL YOUR MANNERS ARE DISCUSTING. I DNT WANT YOU TO REPLY TO ME ANYMORE YOU HAVE A ONE TRACK MIND YOU JUDGE AND ARE NASTY I DNT KNOW ANYONE IN MY LIFE THAT RESPONDS THE WAY YOU DO U ASSUME YOU ARE SITING BEHIND UR PC AND THE NEGATIVITY U SEND IS AWFUL. I DNT KNOW BUT GOODBYE. I AM PRO LIFE BT U DIDNT BOTHER TO EVEN ASK U JUST INSULTED. LOVELY!
1lilleth 10 months ago
@1lilleth waw!
carmel350 10 months ago
@1lilleth
If you do not wish for replies then do not post in cap locks. It draws attention to the eye.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance i havnt typed any of my posts in caps i dnt feel the needt to 'shout' or come off overly aggressive or to get attention thanks! if you read the posts properly all the posts in caps are from careml350 and it says @ 1lilleth which means they are to me. jeezy peeps maybe you should read posts properly before you respond to them? how about you send the same reply to carmel350 as you did to me seeing as she is the one who is using caps all the time!
1lilleth 7 months ago
@carmel350 wrote "YOU PEOPLE ARGUE AGAINST MEDICAL SCIENCE AND FACTS"
What in particular has been against science or a fact please?
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance THE BITCH WHO SAYS THE VIDEO "ECLIPSE OF REASON" ABORTION VIDEO, IS NOT REAL...!
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350
The video Eclipse of Reason is a real video and was made but the issues it deals with don't relate to the real world in places. It paints an ideal world and makes strawmens with the use a dichotomy that may not exist in the real world.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@1lilleth DON'T GIVE A FLYING RATS ASS ABOUT YOUR PREGNANCY EXPERIENCE, I'VE HAD FOUR CHILDREN "EVERYONE" OF MY PREGNANCIES WAS DIFFERENT, NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, DOCTORS ARE NOT GOD! AND BTW, SCIENCE IS SO FAR ADVANCED NOW THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO OPERATIONS ON THE UNBORN TO CORRECT DEFECIENTCIES, IMAGINE THAT! UNBORN BABIES BEING OPERATED ON!!!!
carmel350 10 months ago
Why was this not advertised as a pro-life rant in your misleading title? I'm not even pro-choice and I felt the urge to heave at every manipulative, untrue word.
The procedure you are describing is a D&C, very commonly performed after NATURAL miscarriages.
An incompetent cervix can result from anything from rough sex to a natural miscarriage. Some people just have a weak muscle.
If you were that capable of a teacher, you would know that.
Just go watch your Fox News and preach.
Ashleymariewithlove 11 months ago
@Ashleymariewithlove HEY, WANT TO SEE A GOOD VIDEO, WATCH BILL O'RIELLY'S INTERVIEW WITH PRO-CHOICE ADVOCATE AMY RICHARDS! SO VERY INTERESTING.
carmel350 11 months ago
"That muscle is not a muscle that can be worked."
Hmm... then what are Kegel exercises and why do they work??
Also -any "surgeries are dangerous"? True, but 25% of women giving birth in America have a surgery to do it - a C-section; those are much more complicated surgeries than abortions and involves a huge open wound. Definitely less safe than an abortion.
berriblossom 11 months ago
What do you know of it's wants and needs?
Tenom1 11 months ago
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abortion is a modern day holocaust
dmoor032 11 months ago
abortion is a modern day holocaust
dmoor032 11 months ago
@dmoor032 I agree, except that it's worst. Rather than millions, we're dealing with 100's of millions that have been aborted worldwide, and even worst than the Holocaust(not to take away from how terrible it was), it's the tiniest and most defenseless that are exclusively targeted.
Coolworldleaderguy 10 months ago
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We resent that the value of a woman is determined by whether some man wants us, yet we declare that the value of an unborn child is determined by whether someone wants him. We resent that as women we have been 'owned' by our husbands, yet insist that the unborn are 'owned' by us. We believe that a man's right to do what he pleases with his own body cannot include the right to sexually exploit women, yet proclaim a our similar right means we can kill our unborn child
angelshoulders 1 year ago
this was very helpful
joyfulhelpmeet 1 year ago
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If abortion is merely about woman's rights what are the rights of the aborted/murdered baby
miked7631 1 year ago
If abortion is merely about woman's rights what are the rights of the child she is carrying?
miked7631 1 year ago 2
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Jesus christ people. "OMG don't get an abortion because you'll shit in a bag for the rest of your life". durkadurkadur. bug off. Maybe if cunts don't have what it takes to bear and raise a child, maybe they shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Someone should have told my mom. I would have rather been aborted than watch her fail at motherhood. Get a vibrator you dumb bitches. And, obviously, if you need an abortion, don't go to aware woman.
SaraANunn 1 year ago
Jesus christ people. "OMG don't get an abortion because you'll shit in a bag for the rest of your life". durkadurkadur. bug off. Maybe if cunts don't have what it takes to bear and raise a child, maybe they shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Someone should have told my mom. I would have rather been aborted than watch her fail at motherhood. Get a vibrator you dumb bitches. And, obviously, if you need an abortion, don't go to aware woman.
SaraANunn 1 year ago
i am not against abortion, but let the mums see the scans before they abort ,
karensandy12 1 year ago
Stupid whores. Don't want kids? Don't have SEX.
pigeonpieceofshit 1 year ago
abortions may be morally and physically wrong, but the fact that a woman does not want it in her body does allow anyone to force her to keep it. maybe she knows she isn't ready for a baby and doesn't want to give it a bad life. yeah i know, people say if she thought she was responsible , mature, and old enough to have sex and get pregnant she should be able to take care of it. well this is not true. :/
emmer951 1 year ago
maybe every woman should have there own choice
tankgirl669 1 year ago
if abortion is ok and i cant go to jail for it, how come i cant kill somebody and get away wit it too, wats the difference ?
fhab525 1 year ago
@fhab525 wrote "if abortion is ok and i cant go to jail for it, how come i cant kill somebody and get away wit it too, wats the difference ?"
The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
(Side note: I'm going to get a stamp made with this on...)
ColdLance 7 months ago
What are you talking about stopping a natural process? This happens all the time in nature. It's called miscarriage. And you are WRONG, doctors do NOT have to be board certified. When you look for a family doctor, you usually want a board certified one because you know they are the best. There are plenty of board certified abortion doctors. What you're saying about the uterus flushing itself with blood is exactly why abortions need to remain safe and legal so women don't have at home abortions!
Cheer4debate 1 year ago
Doesn't matter what the side effects of abortions are, abortion has few side effects than actual pregnancy. Stop using fear tactics to scare women away. If no one regulates them, then how did Dr. James Pendergraft get his office closed? You are contradicting yourself. And this is typical pro-life agenda filled with lies. Abortion doctors are trained gynecologists and obstetricians. And like any doctor, you just need to check first to ensure that they are board certified - not all are.
Cheer4debate 1 year ago
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Abortion is a Mother's ultimate betrayal of motherhood. Abortion negates 2,000 years of Western civilization in one fell swoop.
YourUTubeMonitor 1 year ago
Abortion is a legal excuse to kill your babies. And since when did women have the right to kill? Oh, I guess since the MAN legalized it, as long as you pay them! You people are so stupid. You don't even realize that the government feeds off of your ignorance everyday. They sell you cigarettes that kill you, allow you kill your babies for a fee. Does that sound like a system that cares for your welfare?
CuddlyBubbles1 1 year ago
So let me get this straight:
You kill a child OUT of the womb, it's murder and you get sent to jail.
You PAY for an ABORTION, it's completely legal, and you can have a baby sucked, mutilated, and ripped apart right outta your womb, as long as you pay the price for it.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Boy, people now-a-days sure do have great logic...
-.-
CuddlyBubbles1 1 year ago
@CuddlyBubbles1 Watch my video please, and learn something if it's at all possible, and see the difference between abortion and murder. You can't adopt a uterus, and a pregnancy lasts 9 months.
ryddelwearsahat 1 year ago
@ryddelwearsahat "You can't adopt a uterus, and a pregnancy lasts 9 months."
What are you talking about? I know that a pregnancy lasts 9 months, and I know that you obviously can't adopt a uterus. When did I ever make it clear that I didn't understand that? And no, I'm not watching any of your videos because abortion is legally killing a life, and no stupid youtube video is going to convince me otherwise.
CuddlyBubbles1 1 year ago
@CuddlyBubbles1 I'm not denying that abortion is ending a life in any way- I'm just saying that it is sometimes a necessary evil. You make it seem as if you know nothing of childbirth, development or adoption b/c you comment on it being illegal to kill a born person, but fail to see the massive differences in circumstance and intent overall between actual murder and an aboriton.
ryddelwearsahat 1 year ago
@ryddelwearsahat
what I was saying was that it's illegal to kill a person, but yet it's legal and acceptable to kill someone as long as it's in the womb. There's no difference between abortion and murder, and the sooner people accept that, the better. I'm so sick of people sugarcoating the truth. The intent of every murder is to kill the person, which is what the objective of abortion is. there is no massive difference in circumstance.
CuddlyBubbles1 1 year ago
@CuddlyBubbles1 wrote "what I was saying was that it's illegal to kill a person, but yet it's legal and acceptable to kill someone as long as it's in the womb."
Again, The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat Most abortions are done to women who just don't want their children, not because they were raped, or the baby is putting their life in jeopardy. Read statistics. It's all on paper.
CuddlyBubbles1 1 year ago 2
@CuddlyBubbles1 wrote "You kill a child OUT of the womb, it's murder and you get sent to jail.
You PAY for an ABORTION, it's completely legal..."
The difference is consciousness. You already apply the same logic every day to live, you murder plants and maybe animals to survive with little or no moral weight to the action as they have a different level of awareness. Plants for example cannot feel pain and do not have consciousness.
ColdLance 7 months ago
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Is this being complete?Yes.Nothing new will be added from the time of union of sperm and egg until the death of the old man or woman except growth and development of what is already there at the beginning. All he needs is time to develop and mature
angelshoulders 1 year ago
The soul enters the body at birth and first breath. It leaves at death. The soul that is there has to hang around til it's time to get into the body. Before it enter's you have a body growing, not a person. Getting pregnant to begin with is more wrong than abortion. The person's mind was not clear and made an insane mistake to be even thinking of such a thing like abortion later. If pregnancy was a mistake you know there's insanity, immorality, self defense may be necessary.
ouivalerie 1 year ago
@ouivalerie if you wish to use souls in your argument you must first supply evidence of a soul if you are implying a soul in a super natural sense.
ColdLance 7 months ago
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For goodness sakes, do some research. Google Kansas abortion facts or statistics!! Tiller was a very busy & wealthy man. He got rich off these mothers killing their babies. So they paid Tiller to murder their baby, that way he could send his children to the best schools.Nothing was too good or good enough for his children. Poor, stupid mothers of dead babies!! Hope you enjoyed paying him as much as he enjoyed the money!!
angelshoulders 1 year ago
there is SO much incorrect information in this propaganda video.
kingcrimson234 1 year ago
talk about what hapens when something goes wrong with a childhood
fyphfoko 1 year ago
pro choice a baby is not a life if its not born.anyone who thinks im wrong should have been aborted.
godfatherguide 1 year ago
@godfatherguide See and i will disagree with you there.....That baby is a baby once its concieved, when sperm meets egg thats LIFE. Read a bible cause you need some education on what life really is.
sm4323 1 year ago
We resent that the value of a woman is determined by whether some man wants us, yet we declare that the value of an unborn child is determined by whether someone wants him. We resent that as women we have been 'owned' by our husbands, yet insist that the unborn are 'owned' by us. We believe that a man's right to do what he pleases with his own body cannot include the right to sexually exploit women, yet proclaim a our similar right means we can kill our unborn child
angelshoulders 1 year ago
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There is a ob/gyn Dr. here on trial. During a C-section,he cut too deep &sliced the baby's cheek open.The parents & nurses were horrified! It required 41 stitches to repair. The prosecuting attorneys say,"Gross negligence,the child is scarred for life".The defense says,"At the time of the injury,the child was not born yet,legally not a person w/rights.I wonder how the jury will vote?
angelshoulders 1 year ago
LOVE LIFE YOUR MOTHER DID
preachertom1 1 year ago
If there is a God, An all powerful one, he will punish people who have abortions if indeed they are wrong like some predominantly faithful people say. No one need waste there time trying to outlaw it on the grounds of faith. Free choice, no one is forcing anyone. You do NOT have to have an abortion yourself.
So in short, religous readnecks please GTFO out of this debate if your arguement rests on morals you believe God gave you.
kkthxbyebyenow.
ColdLance 1 year ago 10
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flikwatcher007 1 year ago
@ColdLance watch a video called (who created God? Where Did God Come From? Proof of God). boom!
MissKatRob 11 months ago
@MissKatRob
The arguements presented in this video were poor. If you believe you do have emperical evidence for a god please supply it.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance WHY WOULD YOU CALL IT A DEBATE IF IT WAS ONLY YOU? USUALLY A DEBATE HAS TWO SIDES!
carmel350 10 months ago
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@carmel350 wrote "WHY WOULD YOU CALL IT A DEBATE IF IT WAS ONLY YOU? USUALLY A DEBATE HAS TWO SIDES!"
You are welcome to contribute anytime.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance I DON'T THINK ABORTION WILL EVER BE OUTLAWED BY FAITH, I THINK ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS MODERN SCIENCE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT THE UNBORN ARE LIVING HUMAN BEINGS, WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT OF SCIENCE TO BACK US UP! AND, WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSTITUTION! SO, THE LAWS WILL, AND MUST CHANGE! IT'S WEIRD TO ME HOW MANY STUPID UNEDUCATED PEOPLE THERE ARE, BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE YOUR ALL CHOOSING TO NOT ACCEPT THE "FACTS"! HATE, SWEAR, TRY AND FIGHT BACK, BUT WE SHALL NEVER BACK DOWN!
carmel350 10 months ago
@ColdLance WELL THEN WHY HAVE ANY LAWS AT ALL, GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT?
carmel350 10 months ago
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@carmel350 wrote "WELL THEN WHY HAVE ANY LAWS AT ALL, GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT?"
That is a question you have to answer. Not me. I do not believe in god.
ColdLance 7 months ago
This video is factually incorrect. The fetus does not have a brain or nervous system until around the 26 week mark not 27 days. THen still it is a while until the brain is complete and able of thought.
And people could stop having sex or they could use condoms and the pill and if needed have an abortion if they acciedently get pregnant as they are not 100% effective all the time. Not having sex is more un-natural than abortions.
ColdLance 1 year ago 8
@ColdLance : You're a moron. Not having sex is more un natural than abortions, thats a real "choice" comment. Whata an Oxymoronic comment. LOL
bill4justice2 1 year ago
@bill4justice2
Why is that in any way a Oxymoronic comment?
The entire debate is subjective. That however is my opinipn on it.
And why have you highlighted the word choice. Are you impling that the anti-abortionist views are in some way more in keeping with the freedom of choice that many countries aim to live by.
ColdLance 1 year ago
@ColdLance Bull. The Mayo Clinic website even states :: Week 6 (4 Weeks gestationally): The neural tube closes Fetal development ***four weeks after conception****
Growth is rapid this week. Just four weeks after conception, the neural tube along your baby's back is closing and your baby's heart is pumping blood.
steppedonalego 1 year ago
@ColdLance Hey, genius... the heart starts beating at 3 weeks. This couldn't happen without a brain or nervous system. And you think sexual abstanance is less natural than an invasive surgical procedure with metal tools and suction tubes?? Maybe you're right. It will be "a while until your brain is complete and able of thought."
flikwatcher007 1 year ago
@flikwatcher007 Sauce Pl0x or its bollocks
sod16 1 year ago
@flikwatcher007 wrote "he heart starts beating at 3 weeks. This couldn't happen without a brain or nervous system."
The fetus is unable to feel pain however until at least 20 weeks and does not have a consciousness for a few weeks after that.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance "Not having sex is more un-natural than abortions"Said like a true horny 13yr old.Disgusting comment.
You speak like no abortions are done after that disputable 26 wk mark for nerves to develop-which is nonsense.
Tearing a child limb from limb, burning it to death with chemicals-good times, as natural as taking a stroll down the street really.
Coolworldleaderguy 10 months ago
@Coolworldleaderguy
Don't get me started on those Partial Birth Abortions-just tear that skull open with a scissors please-but just make sure the full baby doesn't come out(it transforms into a human then, something like Optimus Prime),there's a chance you may get arrested for killing it, or worst-it may actually live! (as a preemie or full-term)
Coolworldleaderguy 10 months ago
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@Coolworldleaderguy said "Said like a true horny 13yr old.Disgusting comment."
I am 24.
"You speak like no abortions are done after that disputable 26 wk mark for nerves to develop-which is nonsense."
Abortions are illegal after 24 weeks in almost every country that has legal abortions. If it is after that period then I condemn it too.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance exactly what i thought or know. she should know that but i guess theres nothing like changing someones mind with guilt tripping them.
1lilleth 10 months ago
@ColdLance SHOW US YOUR PROOF!
carmel350 10 months ago
@ColdLance THAT'S WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD SAYS TO, BUT WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, AND EVEN IF SHE WAS WRONG, IT'S STILL MURDER, IT'S NOT JUST MURDER IF THE BABY FEELS PAIN! THE HEART BEATS AT 21 DAYS!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 wrote "IT'S STILL MURDER, IT'S NOT JUST MURDER IF THE BABY FEELS PAIN! THE HEART BEATS AT 21 DAYS!"
The human heart beating - although poetic and romantic - does not add anything to the argument. The only thing that matters is if that fetus has the ability to feel pain and if it has acquired consciousness.
ColdLance 7 months ago
@ColdLance WHAT ABOUT ALL THE COMPLICATIONS OF HAVING AN ABORTION?
carmel350 10 months ago
LOL
TeresaPiers 2 years ago
So much bullshit.
FantasmaBAnco 2 years ago
@FantasmaBAnco how is it bullshit?
csimiami23 1 year ago
"fearfully and wonderfully made, right now"... "[the foetus] really wants to be loved by a mother like you"..."it's extremely dangerous to have an abortion"..."abortion clinics... are not regulated by the state" [seriously? they're one of the most heavily regulated health services in the US: Google "Map State Regulation of Abortion"]
Now, keep in mind that these examples of her bullshit were from just the first 1:41. There is more bullshit here, I've just got better things to do.
FantasmaBAnco 1 year ago
I cannot believe the amount of lies this woman is spouting. It's actually far more dangerous for a woman to go through with pregnancy and childbirth than it is for her to have an abortion. The world is already overpopulated - there are millions of unwanted children that no-one will ever want to adopt. Why bring more unwanted children into an already overpopulated world?
gmarc166 2 years ago 4
@gmarc166 and this comment gets thumbs-downed?
Why? b/c noone wants to admit they care more about an ideal than real action?
adoptamericanetworkDAWTorg lists 130,000 children waiting0- and more than 70% of them end up homeless, more than half end up in prison- and this is coming from an adoption agency itself!
A child-welfare and housing advocate!
People these days are just sick.
RyddelIsFree 2 years ago 3
I am for a credit of only 4 abortions for a woman.
Howard Stern
HowardSternn 2 years ago
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abortion is a private issue and should remain so. is anyone familiar with safe home abortions? i hear that europe is returning to the method of carrying out family planning..
dragonpat666 2 years ago
It is a woman's reasonable right to choose between going through with having a child when she is not ready to support it, or waiting until she can give her child the best life possible.
Pro-choice is progressive and modern morality. Planned lives and planned futures. Living well and giving good lives to our children in this beautiful world.
zararara 2 years ago
If she's not ready to support it or give it the best life possible, she can give it for adoption to someone who feels more ready.
steffyb528 2 years ago
There are already so many children without families who are in temporary foster homes and orphanages. Many people want womb fresh babies and not already developing children, but it shouldn't be the job of women who don't want to go through with pregnancy to produce for them.
And, of course, there is the looming matter of overpopulation as well.
zararara 2 years ago 3
yes - or stop having sex :)
toitelikeatiger 2 years ago
This video is all fear tactics and very biased information. Abortions don't hurt and are less dangerous than childbirth. The chance of complications are very minuscule - the examples they provided are only to scare people.
Abortions are immoral according to old religious standards. In our present reality, morality has evolved beyond the repressive constraints of religion.
zararara 2 years ago
Try telling that some someone who has been harmed by abortion. I have a good friend.
steffyb528 2 years ago
And I know many women who have had abortions without any complications. They spoke of compassionate doctors and nurses and calm atmospheres. Quick procedures with no pain and only very mild discomfort thanks to use of pain killers. Not to discredit your friend, of course. Some people may experience more pain just as some women experience much more pain when actually give birth.
zararara 2 years ago
As for the lady at the end...she has a Ph.D. which means she is a doctor of PHILOSOPHY. She is not a medical doctor. People don't realize that Ph.D. is not the same as MD. An MD actually understands what can keep someone alive or kill them. A Ph.D. just wants to understand the choices that led to their outcome.
This lady at the end has no qualification for her statements at all. She has studied philosophy...and that's all.
gcdcman81 2 years ago
gcd: she has studied philosophy, thats all Right.. and philosophy has NO consensus on the issue of abortion
Sueezee1 2 years ago
How do you know she's studied philosophy. You can get a Ph.D. in a lot of things, education, science, engineering, business, you name it.
steffyb528 2 years ago 3
And can anyone tell me the medical qualifications this woman has? Does she have a Doctorates? Or even a Nurse Practitioner?
gcdcman81 2 years ago