Michael Steele: Yes, Obama's Plan Is Socialism, Next Question

[concious2]

@DaveSquibbSr that is not to be found true for the most part but people continue to to push this belief. I don't like what Most of Obama is doing either but people don't care about issues until it affects them because they worry about status and having someone below them well this is about to hit in a big way and if you think it's because of Obama then you have been totally fooled-all of these guys are on the same team you just don't know it.

[concious2]

It amazes me how they use terms like stand in line and wait your turn. What about go to the doctor sit down and wait just like what you do any way.

[DaveSquibbSr]

@concious2 stand in line and wait means like what happens in Canada you get an appointment and you get put on a waiting 3 month or more before you see a doctor, many people in countries with socialized medicine die waiting for an appointment, but they won't tell you that, i say hands off of health care!

[fanaticmoron]

Woops accidentally pressed dislike while clicking play. Please don't post unfunny, lame jokes about that one guy who clicked dislike.

[Fawcks]

Capitalism is a good system, and I believe in it, but the American system is not working.

[zaurtrien]

and what the fuck is wrong with socialism? done well, it is far better than capitalism

[TimeWarp66]

@zaurtrien

Do you have to take classes to be this stupid? Socialism "done well is far better than capitalism"???

1) Where has socialism every worked?

2) Capitalism is the best system ever enabled.

[IllDecideLater]

The more modern form of socialism ('state socialism') applied to health care, would mean establishing something like Britain's NHS, all hospitals would be government owned, and all health care workers would be paid directly by the government, from their general revenue. This bill doesn't do that either.

Quite simply, the health care bill is NOT socialist in nature.

I don't support the bill. Just tired of hearing people regurgitating talking points & calling it socialism when it's anything but.

[IllDecideLater]

Socialism (True socialism, or classical socialism) is about collective worker ownership of their means of subsistence, so in this case, that would mean turning all hospitals, health clinics, etc, over to the health care workers who work in them, and have them democratically managed from the bottom up. This bill, does not establish such a system.

[IllDecideLater]

The bill will force millions of new people to become customers of CAPITALIST insurance companies.

This is called "SOCIAL CAPITALISM" ...when the government actively tries to help, or sponsor the capitalist market, in this case, by legislating insurance companies new customers.

This is NOT Socialism

[IllDecideLater]

Socialism is an ideology - just a set of ideals. The definition that I posted was what Marx envisioned as his Socialist utopia. Socialism does not really work because of human nature - It can't be realized in a society successfully. There is a disconnect between the definition of Socialism and the practical application of it...

[IllDecideLater]

The dictionary definition of Socialism is not sufficient

You can not understand the ideology of socialism with out reading Socialist texts to gain some CONTEXT.

It is about fixing the inequalities between the working class and those on top.

Marx called socialism the "revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat," the working class seizing power and replacing a political, economic, and social system controlled by the bourgeoisie, or the propertied class." 1848 in The Communist Manifesto

[xplodingirl]

by some of the comments I see here, I find some who need to learn more history and economics, especially before calling someone a fool.

[CmdrTobs]

@xplodingirl

Yep, it what you get when a whole country basically does not properly teach Humanities.

I am from 'Europe' btw, where they speak 'French'

[billybob101013]

i see a scared black man worry about RUSH an hoping he wont make any racist whites REP.s mad at him agian

sad if he make them he has to kiss ass agian an that s funny shit

[Xerxes4242]

Michael Steele is a foooooooool

[tristanXIV]

these cretins had 8 years of a Republican president and a Republican congress from 1994 to 2007 and they keep blaming the fucking economic disaster on socialism. now get real.

I predict another economic crisis by the end of the next decade just to keep up with the trend.

[ichihentai]

I am trying to think when government management of anything has led to greater efficiency and reduced cost. Not getting anything.

[SnakeGartman]

54% support it. what a horrible joke. Unbelievable how biased this is. I can't believe this pathetic man would put up a statistic like that and pretend it's accurate. Thank you, MSNBC, the one network more biased than FOX

[drucilla1234]

Michael Steele Is right!! Take the time to look into it.

[onlyrey]

Actually, grab your phone and call your Senator, and tell him/her to support Health Care Reform. Tell them to support their constituents and not the health insurance lobbyists.

[cl97]

Obama's plan is scary...please, everyone call your congressmen to have them actually read the bill. Old people don't get treatment they need, employers have to pay huge fees for keeping private insurance...and it will cost WAY TOO MUCH!!!

[ecwaufisxtreme]

Steele is right on Obambi's plan. This is WHY we need Sarah Palin as President RIGHT NOW instead of Obambi for she will SQUASH all attempts at healthcare reform and will ensure that healthcare remains completely privatized. She will make Medicare, Medicaid and even Social Security privatized. Any male politician who attempts at any reform will have Palin UNLEASH the WRATH OF GOD HERSELF onto them and have their PUSSIES EXPOSED and credibility DESTROYED!

[3star2nr]

do you know what socialism even means?

[TwoAiren]

Totally. Gingrich-Palin 2012 PLEASE

[obamadidit2008]

twoairen, for national dogcatchers maybe

[sidplicity]

Well that was a keyboard full ohh bullshit. Ecw ask your grandparents what it was like before medicare, medicaid, and social security. And if your wish is to keep Caribou Barbie the quitter around, the seccesionist. Please by all means do so.