Luftwaffe 1946

[TheMorur]

NIEMCY TO CHUJE

[pabloassasin]

genial la musica de RAMMSTEIN

[ex59neo53]

Best video/song for an uchronia ... "what if..." is always inspiring people ^^

[luvpump1]

3.14 !! YES !

[hellomon100]

@luvpump1 3:14

[llucan01]

Who cares about 1946 - THE WAR ALREADY LOST !! HELLO

[hellomon100]

@llucan01 its interesting becase it makes us think what WW2 would be like with proposed weopens in mass production it gets your eyes so alot of people care

[datzfast]

it is my choice not to be Muslim, a Nazi, or whatever culture you are loving today. for i am a culture less american. and am free of culture. at least i wont have to set myself on fire outside a German bunker high on cocaine like the fuhrer

[455oldsTARoadHun]

@datzfast I am not a radical Muslim, nor a nazi, there are elements of each I admire and despise, there are even elements of america I admire the initial libertarianist concept that the founding fathers had envisioned for the nation, they wanted to make it like Rome without the need for conquest, unfortunatley this is idealism at its worst, Humanity needs conquest and needs war it is how each is conducted that shall determine length of life of a state and its quality of people.

[datzfast]

im sure you dont know why citizens of the world prefer to immigrate to the USA. im sure it is a mystery to you. let me be the fist to explain it to you. they are trying to get away from some one else's fucking culture. there, i feel better now, in fact im feeling pretty well now.

[455oldsTARoadHun]

@datzfast no, people immigrate to america to make money ause in the nations that most of them hail from money is not to be made due to a lack of progress, industry or what have you, they could go to europe but educational standards are higher there where as in the US those immigrants can easily top the system, then they make money and send it to their countries and fuck the US, perhaps 60 years agonot the case but tell me how much patriotism mexican, arab, chinese, indian, or pakistani gives?

[Wesleyfromindy2]

germany also had the headstart on an atomic bomb, but hitler thought it didn't have much use. that was one of many blunders hitler mande, examples of poor judgment. one nazi even said after the war that germany would have won were it not for him!

[datzfast]

@Wesleyfromindy2 the ameican hitler bomb was dropped on japan, had the hitler bomb been dropped on hitler it would have been so funny dont you think?

[unknown142313]

Imagine if hitler unleashed all these secret weapons ! allies would have lost !

[datzfast]

@unknown142313 yes unleashed a secret weapon such as the 300 jet airplanes that never got more than ten in the air at one time. maybe if they had 100,000 jet aircraft and got a thousand in the air at one time they would not have gotten the shit bombed out of themselves.

[Kapy89]

cual es el documental? me gustaria verlo gracias! gran video !

un saludo!

[SrAlvaroEd]

@Kapy89 Secret Luftwaffe Aircraft of WWII

[TheEmpireStartsHere]

The nazi germany was the right way, you americans and russians just wanted pity revenges and power. if hitler had succseded we would be nano age already

[worldofdoom995]

@TheEmpireStartsHere exactly

[airsoftcollector]

imagine if the germans won ww2 ? mabey i would be here writeing this lol

[tavogx]

Thats what the media now whants YOU TO THINK, THE NAZIS WHERE NOT AS BAD AS THE MEDIA TELLS YOU! Please read!

[ex59neo53]

@tavogx The one forced to be member of NSDAP were affraid of what would happen if they disn't accept to be member (so ok ,those one were not so bad) ,but in fact :

I really hope u"ll never have to meet those who lost their families in death camps ....

[tavogx]

Death camps? What death camps.... is all a set up!

[ex59neo53]

@tavogx

So one of ur grand-parents came from germany to colombia after the war and told u "nazis were not so bad " and u still believe it ?

What do u know about WWII ? Nothing .

I don't think u ever met someone who suffered from nazism ,so instead of being ridiculous ... please shut up ! (on this subject of course)

[tavogx]

So, who to beileve? CNN?, Fox? My friend you are free to show your believes but telling people to shut up because they dont think as the way you do? You are more Nazi than me, according to your believes. Have a nice day my friend and please READ!

[ex59neo53]

@tavogx

CNN ? Fox ? believes ?

I am not a basic american ,I'm French , I don't watch american TV and u should learn how french people lived under Nazi regime before thinking I need 'believes'.

History is not a question of "believes" or "thinking" ,especially when a part of my family was in the Resistance .

Number of books/videos I read on 1923-1945 period is very big ;o)

By the way , in France , to disseminate ideas concerning Historical revisionism (negationism) = PRISON .

[tavogx]

PRISON? THEN WHY IS NOT JEAN MARIE LE PEN IN PRISON? He is a revisionist if im not wrong. SEE? YOU SHOULD READ FIRST BEFORE TALKING ALL THAT BULLSHIT YOU ARE TALKING.

[ex59neo53]

I meant that prison was a possible issue when u officially disseminate negationist ideas ... (Lepen had the good idea to apologize before being in front of a judge .

Some of those who wrote books deniying Shoah did spend time in prison though :p

(I think our systems of laws are different between our countries so ....)

U are from a country who never suffered from Nazis ,I come from a land where lot of people suffered because of them ,u know nothing except from books ,I know from family elders ;)

[ex59neo53]

It is not a question of believing or not .

It is just HISTORY .

I had (and still have) family that has suffered during WWII while yours has not .

It is always easy to "believe" when ur country was not concerned (directly I mean) by WWII .

May i remind u that UK,USA and many more countries had Nazi parties too?

So u think Einsatzgruppen were only good guys ? (If so ... please never visit eastern europe then)

Nothing personnal ,and even if .... you are too far away lol

[tavogx]

My family is from Potugal and Spain. lol. See? You dont even know me and you are still talking bullshit. The USA kill A LOT OF CIVILIANS, THE UK HAVE AN EMPIRE AND ALSO KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN INDIA AND SOUTH AFRICA, AND HAD THIS APARTEID THING. So please dont make an exaple of those.

[ex59neo53]

You are off-topic

[EDquetrabalhamuito]

Trifleugel??? it's called Triebflügel

[altermann555]

eu = ü

eo = ö

ea = ä

-.-

[EDquetrabalhamuito]

Man, whatever. search on Google Trifleugel: 2 results. Search on google Triebflügel: 333.000 results

[altermann555]

wayne ????

[ex59neo53]

@EDquetrabalhamuito

And I don't think any reasonnable pilot would have use it .... too dangerous in non-expert hands ;)

[Kapy89]

si los alemanes hubieran comenzado el desarrollo de esas tecnologias un par de años antes hubieran ganado la guerra o probablemente hubiera durado mucho mas y se hubiera saldado con una guerra atomica ya que a pesar de que los aliados lo desmienten los nazis si tenian la tecnologia para desarrollar armas atomicas tacticas, se tienen registros de que en una isla de dinamarca hubo un extraño seismo a finales de la guerra y demas evidencias lo unico que pasa esq la historia la escribe kien gana

[53462874]

esto no es un sueño es una profecia la profecia seguira la ingenieria nazi y la medicina fueron impactantes solo mirad los aeroplanos que casualidad que los yankees desarrollaran el f-117 no¿¿¿ cosa que hitler ia lo tenia en planos seguir la profecia ......

[EDquetrabalhamuito]

(EN) Important Note: 0:03 and 0:05 aren't the same airplane. They are, respectively, the Heinkel He-162 Volksjäger Salamander (fighter) and the Henschel Hs-132 (diving bomber). (PT) Nota importante: o 0:03 e o 0:15 não são o mesmo avião. São, respectivamente, o Heinkel He-162 Volksjäger Salamander (caça) e o Henschel Hs-162 (bombardeiro de mergulho).

[mirage2556]

2:23-3:25 bombing the New York!!! Good video.

[EseWolf29]

this army... is... better than the actually! its incredible! ...

[EDquetrabalhamuito]

0:03 Heinkel HE 162 Volksjäger Salamander

0:43 Focke Wulf TA 183 Huckebein 1:20 Focke Wulf FW Triebflügel 2:02 Horten HO IX - HO 229 2:23 Horten HO XVIIIb "Amerika Bomber" 3:30 Messerschmitt ME 262 Schwalbe 3:39Heinkel "Lerche II" 3:41 Horten HO II 3:45 Horten HO XIIIb 3:49 Henschel HS 132 3:56 BMW Schnellbomber I 3:57 Focke Wulf FW 1000 3:59 Blohm & Voss BV P.212.03 4:01 Blohm & Voss BV P.194 4:04 Messerschmitt ME 262 HG 4:08 Focke Wulf "Super Lorin" 4:12 Blohm & Voss BV P.207.02

[493175001]

That's definitely not a Me 262 HG at 4:04.

[TheEmpireStartsHere]

@EDquetrabalhamuito arent they beutifull ?

[SrAlvaroEd]

@TheEmpireStartsHere (EDquetrabalhamuito was my earlier Channel. This is my new one...) 0:03 is a He 162, but at 0:15 there is a Hs 132

[radioguysbrother]

nazis posers,pervs,and retards and if anyone is german here who fought in wwII your lucky to be alive and im not being raisist. i hope WWIII dosen't have germany unlese there on the allies not a Axis.. anyway they made 1 hell of a army! ;|

[sgtkar98]

The Me-262 couldn´t beat a P-80 or a Vampire???

[horstdieterderdritte]

mostly depends on the pilots. but technically the me 262 was faster and had more effective armament than either p 80 or the vampire.

[nobodykh]

what's the name of the song

[11homer11]

so song is called "Sonne" and is from the band "Rammstein"

[kezDXX]

thanks for puting this video up

and this is just there ideas for aircraft they also built sound cannons, and there allies at the time the japanese built death rays that actualy worked but keep in mind the americans were thinking of there own toys to so who knows how this war would have came out if it had lasted another year

[lutherfairytale]

Get over it, it's over.

Pathetic.

[455oldsTARoadHun]

whats funny is the technology of the Nazis implemented towards the end of the war has remained pretty much unchanged with a few computer enhancements excepted. May have been better to turn them into a R&D country rather than dismantle their entire system. For whatever it was the Nazi system has been a key contributor to the world in this century and Hitler although hated, is now Immortal in the pages of history.

[datzfast]

@455oldsTARoadHun the immortal hitler committed suicide and his body burned with gasoline. hardly immortal. yes he made it into the history books but so has Monica lewinsky.

[455oldsTARoadHun]

@datzfast Monica lewinsky will not stay there, Hitler has become much like Hannibal Barker, Rome vilified Hannibal for years much as the allies have Hitler, and if Monica Lewinski counts as "History" to you, well then you must be absent of culture.

[datzfast]

@455oldsTARoadHun i never claimed to have any culture im very crass and raw in nature. i like my women naked as you pretty much guessed.

[455oldsTARoadHun]

@datzfast so you're american, such is your choice to have no culture.

[datzfast]

@455oldsTARoadHun this is true, tell me are all canadians big eaters? i visited Canada one time and came away with that impression. it may be the cold climate requires more caloric intake. has any study been done on the topic. no one immigrates or visits the United States for the Cultural aspects, ever. Tell me do you think Hitler was improving the culture of germany when he tried to rid the continent of the undesirables. the answer is yes if you need help.

[455oldsTARoadHun]

@datzfast I'm not a white Canadian, if people don't immigrate to America for cultural reasons then immigrant loyalty will be at an all tme low unlike Rome for example. So the US will not have as long a lifespan as Rome either especially with the immigrants you're getting today. Different regimes take different measures at eliminating undesirables for us as powerless folk is meaningless to question or such as I see it, many nations before Hitler took to similar measures.

[freedom905]

Interesting video with some amazing and beautiful designs although some not likely to leave the ground.....especially the wacky helicopter/rocke/airplane/Star Trek thing. In the end, thank God for Churchill the Brits as well as Americans and all allies.

[rexxlar]

the allies have stolen all our ingeneer plans

[oakiarg]

bueno, podría decirse que finalmente los judios ganaron la guerra a traves de USA, los resultados estan mas que claros...

[3bezirk]

Da sieht man wieder mal .. das die deutschen alle techniken erfunden haben die die flugzeuge heute haben ... zb der heutige B2 der armys ! die pläne haben sie den deutschen entnomme und bis jetz verfolständigt !!

die deutschen waren richtig tapfer so rasisitisch das auch klingt !

[leemyster2]

amazing aircravt. they would be a real sight to see, though i guess not welcomed by allied airmen...

great song, love it

[metalrod23]

imagine what germany would have accomplished had it not been for insane leaders

[leemyster2]

there impressive but then again they were just engernering designs, none were built and probally none of them would of been built in 1946 if the war went to that time. look at the diference of aircrafct from 44-45. more jet fighters were introduced but that was it. i don't think the germans would of being making helicopter fighters and B2 bomber look alikes

[truthspeaker969]

"i don't think the germans would of being making helicopter fighters"

seems you don´t know it but germans constructed the first fighting helicopters

back during WW II..., but they lacked extremly of resources like noble alloys, hq-fuel and so on... who knows what would have happened if they didn´t attack east europe and focused on air superiorty and invading great britain instead... maybe we would greet each other with "Heil Hitler" then still today..., at least in whole europe...

[sgtkar98]

He did the same mistake germans did in WWI (and this mistake was eagerly criticized by Hitler): the two front war.

He couldn´t wait to win over the west then he was marching to the east.

[matthew181]

btw that B2 look alike was built allong with its fighter/interceptor cousin. they didnt see service but they were built. and at least two other aircraft in that video were deployed but im sorry i couldent name them.

[leemyster2]

i think when i wrote the comment i was a bit less informed.

the B2 look alike, the hornier flying wing was built, as you said. like you said it didnt see action. however, i dont believe that they made a fighter version of it, most likely cos a shape like that is not very manouverable. then again, what do i know about aerodynamics lol

[ghazgul]

The russians and americans had stolen plans from the "paperplanes" of the luftwaffe for example the TA-183. So the russians orientated at Huckebein for their early MIG jets. The most planes were built and tested so just one or two more years and they would have flown. And who knows what would have happened. But we germans weren't many enough to fight against the world. I think it was better for the whole world in the end.

Greetz from germany

[nordistelillois]

Nothing beats Horten bros designs ;o)

[JackiJackal]

The Focke-wulf ta-183 Huckebein is Jacki jackal's choice!

[JackiJackal]

The Focke-wulf ta-183 Huckebein is Jacki jackal's choice!

[Infantry43]

the 1 at57 looks like a mig 17 i think?

[nordistelillois]

Kurt Tank's TA-183 ;o)

[KurtGnu]

The scariest bit about this film is that it could so easily have happened, if things had just been a little bit different.. :P By the way, the Heinkel 162 DID fly, and saw combat at the evry end of the war.. so that technically isn't a '46 plane, but very much reality.. :I

[nordistelillois]

So He-162 would have reached it's real potential in 1946 ;o)

[MokomaSusi]

Production version of HE-162 was many ways superior to ME-262.

[JackiJackal]

true, but it designed as a 'Volksjager' that would be easy to fly for new pilots. the reality was it was a son of a bitch to fly

[anonymoususerindenve]

Fun video, though I think we're all pretty glad the war ended as it did, when it did. On another note, German sure lends itself to heavy metal...

[cutangus]

¡Muy buena composición, este vídeo!

[dornier]

Sonne (sun), by Rammstein.

[GojiPug]

what is the name of the soundtrack?

[artemidiasul]

La bomba atómica es una mentira! mirate la pelicula bomba atomica no existe 1 de andre mauro (cybercheguevara) - es claramente una prueba de la manipulacion estadunidense ! La revolucion de la verdade !

[nordistelillois]

HO 229 ... for me still the most beautyfull plane :o)

[QuickSixx]

Germany was allways steps ahead in technology !

[matrixdno]

The Germans, undoubtedly, from his, foundation to had the best engineers and mechanics of the world. With regard to that some German engines, he was presenting problems it is true but very slightly probable, the principal problem of the engines was that wholesale canbiaban were not presenting a high performance of fuel but it capacity of engine, of I begin they created the best engines in the whole war ...

[thomas121212]

all the clips i saw on history channel today Secret luftwaffe

[Triebflugal]

Good video!

Search "Luftwaffe 1946" for some great videos from the game "IL2 Sturmovik 1946"

Looks like the History Channel used the Mocrosoft flight simulator. IL2 Sturmovik may be the best yet...

[Triebflugal]

Wow!

I kind of favor the Triebflugal....

Search Luftwaffe 1946 for my first video. More to come!

[rauberboy]

Amerika bomber....

[thomas121212]

i love the 1 05 chorus if i could understand it i would totally listen 2 it 4ever thank you

[manifestman132]

2 here comes then sun

3 the brightest star of them all

[thomas121212]

sehr gut ich bin English Fantastish

[mig47p90]

los mejores ingeniero eran los alemanes porque incluso el tanque actual mas usado en la union europea el leopard 2 esta basado en diseños alemanes.

[PfcBuck]

Das ist gut, Ich bin ein Amerikaan

[Finchy000]

thoes were good and all, but germany was lacking pilots so they would still lose

[DeadlyDilemma]

Wow, simply...wow. Some of those planes the Nazis were cooking up look straight out of Sci-fi.

[Finchy000]

Hard to immagine what aviation would be like now if thoes were created.

[stonethrower88]

Many of them were created.

But they had american or russian markings on them. The B-1 stealth bomber is a direct decendent of the Nazi Horten. Russian Mig variants and American Sabre jets borrowed quite liberally from captured Nazi prototype planes and design plans.

[elquedepreda]

hola. mola la musica. acompaña de p... madre. hago maquetas de aviones y tengo un monton del luft46. que gozada ver el delirio del triebflugel volar. mola, tio. saludos.

[atecjon]

what is the name of this game or movie?

[dornier]

Is a documental, not a game.

[jonatanga]

in il2 sturmovick 1946 you can find many planes like this.

[atecjon]

yes i got it home

[datzfast]

@atecjon if you want to play a game its IL2

[ramjb]

Almost 95% of the Luft'46 projects are dated in 1944 or later and were done because Germany was at war.They wouldn't have existed otherwise.

Had germany not been a war until 1944 there would've been little "ultra-advanced" technology in the german armed branches. And certainly none of it would've been like what it's seen in this clip.

Still it's a beautiful sight and one has to give the germans a lot of credit. They sure had some interesting ideas.

[ramjb]

Other thing: This weapons (Xcept amerika-bomber) were defensive.And until 1944 all german engineering efforts were about offensive weaponry,not defensive.

Remember that the german tech "boom" started around '42-'43 when they noticed the war couldn't be won unless technology assisted them.The first german jet flow in '39,yet until '42 there was no official interest by the RLM.

The TypeXXI submarines were feasible by 1936 yet the KM saw no need for them (until the atlantic war was lost).

[ramjb]

Other "things" as the Trifleugel weren't feasible (the vibrations caused by the "propeller-wings" would've destroyed it). The Amerika-Bomber was beyond the capability of the german engineering of the time (remember the german jets were plagued with engine reliability issues,and they were quite fuel-thirsty). And, Germany was years away from having an atomic bomb -in fact they stopped most of the work on the nuclear department by 1943-.

[ramjb]

As much as I like the Luftwaffe, some reality facts here.

Most of the artifacts seen in this video would've never flown. and one of those who could've done it wouldn't been in time for 1946.

The only planes and artifacts I saw in this clip that were feasible in 1946 were the He162, the Ho-229, the Hs132, the X-4, and the Ta-183. And the latter had some serious stability issues at high mach numbers, so it's availability in 1946 is quite optimistic.

[Yaevh]

Actually, the He 162 already entered service in winter '45, the Ho 229 prototype performed it's first jet-powered flight also in winter '45, and the Hs 132 prototype was nearly complete when the factory was overrun by the Soviets. And the Me 262 isn't a part of Luftwaffe 1946 at all, for it entered operational service in summer '44.

And the correct name for the Focke-Wulf denign is Triebflugel, not Trifluegel.

[ramjb]

long time since this answer but still.

The He162 had a nasty unstability in the pitch axis which made it almost unfliable for anyone but the best pilots (and Germany had not many of them by '45). BTW it flew in december'44, not '45. Not to mention the corrosive glue "eating" the wood and causing catastrophic structural failures.

[ramjb]

The HS132 shared the same unstability issues as the 162. The shoulder-mounted engine just aft of the pilot was never a good idea. Also the high speeds involved would've caused pilot stresses of up to 12G. Regardless of it's prone position in the cockpit, that's hardly sustainable by any human body.

Finally, the idea of the dive bomber was dated already by 1943. Jets took a lot of time to build up speed, diving with airbrakes and bugging out at slow speed was a certified death in 1945.

[ramjb]

About the 262,I didn't mention it at all. Still,it was a 1st generation jet fighter and as such by 1945 would've been obsolete by the 2nd generation jets coming into service (P80, DH Vampire, etc).

BTW,it didn't enter service by summer'44. First operational fighter 262 unit was JG7 which started using it in service by very late'44(Kommando Nowotny was NOT an operational,but a test squadron which flew under operational conditions.That's a whole different story,the plane was still not in service)

[ramjb]

First combats seen by the Me262 happened when machines of EKdo262 (then Kommando Nowotny) met a mosquito in one of their test flights. EKdo262 started flying the plane in April'44, so then,depending if you want to thing the test group was an operational one or not, either the plane entered service in spring'44 or in autumn-winter'44. But not in summer.

[ramjb]

of course if you choose the spring date we have a problem, because the P80 was into operational testing by April'45 and under that measure, it would be a WWII fighter, and, casually, that would make it the best fighter of WWII.

Personally I like to give each plane an in-service date according to it's in-service introduction into an Air Force, not according to it's first operational test deplomenets. As such, Me262 is a winter'44 plane, and P-80 is a 1946 one.

[ramjb]

to finish I'd like to remark that I admire the luftwaffe pilots and designs a lot. In every WWII flight simulator I've flown (name it, Warbirds, Aces High, Il-2, EAW, whatever since the era of Lucasarts' BoB and SWOTL), I've flown for most of the time german planes. My plane of choice and liking has always been the Fw190, and I honestly think the Me262 was by far the best WWII air superiority fighter and interceptor.

But facts are facts and some luft'46 designs were nothing more than dreams.

[chile06]

amazining that if hitler hadnt screwed up, those jets could have seen action and turned the tied of humankind.

[Humbertusmarius]

Hi Dornier, now that you mention the Sanger orbital bomber, have you seen "The Nazi Plan to Bomb New York"?It talks about Von Braun, the Horten brothers, and Eugen Sanger. Sometime they show it on THC.

[israelll]

April 20 1946 was the date right Hitlers birth day the date to bomb New

[dornier]

One moment. Don't forgot the russians. One russian scientist say an orbital flight is possible in a rocket, in the year 1905.

The germans designed the "amerika bomber", an hypersonic rocket-plane to bomb america. Space flights in 1946...

[Humbertusmarius]

Definitely, the Nazi scientists and astronauts would be colonizing the solar system by now. But what about the rest of humanity, they would probably be a slave race if Germany had won the war. Dornberger had plans for a nuclear powered spaceship to be used in a Mars mission, and giant space mirrors to use the sun to fry enemy cities.

[chile06]

imagine a world with nazi germany still around. with jets and missils in the 40s imagine 2007! we would have people living in jupiter by now.

[charlie42089]

if only Hitler had started the war in 1943/44 like originally planned. I think it is safe to say the war's outcome would have been very different.

[israelll]

yes i think so to

maybe if he waited to take Russia and if the US was not fighting germany till 46 germany could have won the war they still could have but they were fighting on more then one front unlike the allies at the time.

[Humbertusmarius]

A good friend of mine, who is an aviation historian, has written many books on the subject, he knew many of the designers, including the Horten brothers, of flying wing fame.

[LastCommodore]

Enjoyed watching. There's a comic book series of the same title, featuring the same aircraft designs.

[superlive98]

I remember reading that Antarctic Press title. In that alternate timeline Hitler decided to make jet fighters (not bombers) the priority and the Me-262 is therefore available to combat B-17s in 1943! The next 7 years of WW2 is a race to tech superiority with each side debuting new aircraft to bomb one another every year until Germany finally makes a rocket-wing (piloted by a teenage girl) which nukes DC from orbit. After 9-11 the title got pulled from most stores.

[Humbertusmarius]

Hello Dornier, nice video. I am the animator/modeler who did the CGI for the "Secret Luftwaffe Aircraft" documentary years ago. Seeing it all put together so well, with the excellent Rammstein music was a real treat. Glad you liked the animations.

Someone asked about the simulation used to make the animations. The answer, Lightwave 3D.

Speak soon,

Mario Merino

[Frankfritz]

It would be fantastic

[keithrussell]

All I can say is just as well the timing was on the Allied forces side. Can you imagine the world today! Definately visionary scientists though.

[dornier]

I used video from a Documental (on the History channel) and images are of luft46.com.

[Unclefeet]

Brilliant. Perfect soundtrack too. What Simulation have you used to make this clip. Sturmovik 46?