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Heh, pretty derivative if you ask of me. Sounds like Greenwood was a little too fond of Messiaen, Xenakis, and a few other composers of the era and decided to half-ass their techniques in order to apply them to a fairly banal language.
Want good modern music that is actually fairly interesting to the ear? I highly suggest the works of Ferneyhough, Grisey, Murail, and Birtwhistle; in terms of art, Greenwood's garbage is absolutely meaningless.
@MusicaRicercata I Say its Pretty fucking good considering all the other musical contributions this wonderful man has made. Think about it 13 or so years ago this man was making music like "The Bends" or "Ok Computer" not to mention "KID A" or "Amnesiac". I think his " Evolution" into Classical music has been widely excepted. After all he did write the score for the major motion picture "There will be Blood".
@MusicaRicercata I say, someone's a touch snobbish. The line between theft and inspiration is pretty much subjective. Personally I can hear a bit of Amnesiac era Radiohead in there, so it's not like he's not adding his own twist to this kind of music.
@MusicaRicercata yes, it's absolutely horrible to have influences ... in fact lets just stop making music all together and stick to what we already have
@skulihelgi1 There is a difference between influence and abject, complete theft.
Stravinsky once remarked that a good composer "steals" from his predecessors. However, a good composer also knows how to handle the material they've borrowed so that it doesn't become a cheap parody of the music from which they draw as their sources.
It's pretty poor and very plagiaristic. It doesn't hang together well at all, with a set of (often stolen) ideas thrown randomly together. One passage has been lifted straight from Penderecki's threnody. Great if it gets people interested in the truly great modern art music out there, but perhaps Greenwood ought to stick to pop music.
Where is this particular passage? I have the score of the Threnody with me... I haven't found a particular portion that coincides with PSR, but if you know where it is, I'm open to being proven wrong.
I didn't say there wasn't; I simply asked for the particular passage in question. It's quite obvious Greenwood draws a lot from other composers.
But listening to this passage again, I can't help but draw parallels between this work, the Threnody, and also the closing bars of Xenakis' Metastasis. I think it should be noted, however, that while he is a little too late to be copying this exact technique (Threnody and Metastasis were of the 50s), I'm not actually opposed to this sort of homage.
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djwbk 4 months ago
240p? *240P*?
WAI?
Arkanj3l 4 months ago
I can only imagine what goes on in Jonny's magical mind when I listen to his pieces... pure love Jonny, pure love
tretastellar 5 months ago 2
I think his other peace - "Doghouse" is better. Check it out and tell me if there is evolution.
I think there is.
rolandcr 1 year ago
Hi guys.
Would very much appreciate it if some/ any of you would be kind enough to listen to my music:
There is only one track there at the moment, but i'll be uploading another four within the next day.
Thanks.
heyheyjack 1 year ago
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Heh, pretty derivative if you ask of me. Sounds like Greenwood was a little too fond of Messiaen, Xenakis, and a few other composers of the era and decided to half-ass their techniques in order to apply them to a fairly banal language.
Want good modern music that is actually fairly interesting to the ear? I highly suggest the works of Ferneyhough, Grisey, Murail, and Birtwhistle; in terms of art, Greenwood's garbage is absolutely meaningless.
MusicaRicercata 1 year ago
Boulez and Stockhausen are also fantastic as well; I highly suggest the former's "Anthèmes" (either edition) and the latter's "Unsichtbare Chöre".
MusicaRicercata 1 year ago
@MusicaRicercata I Say its Pretty fucking good considering all the other musical contributions this wonderful man has made. Think about it 13 or so years ago this man was making music like "The Bends" or "Ok Computer" not to mention "KID A" or "Amnesiac". I think his " Evolution" into Classical music has been widely excepted. After all he did write the score for the major motion picture "There will be Blood".
krispecker 1 year ago 2
@MusicaRicercata I say, someone's a touch snobbish. The line between theft and inspiration is pretty much subjective. Personally I can hear a bit of Amnesiac era Radiohead in there, so it's not like he's not adding his own twist to this kind of music.
OhTheOtherDude 8 months ago
@MusicaRicercata yes, it's absolutely horrible to have influences ... in fact lets just stop making music all together and stick to what we already have
skulihelgi1 1 year ago
@skulihelgi1 There is a difference between influence and abject, complete theft.
Stravinsky once remarked that a good composer "steals" from his predecessors. However, a good composer also knows how to handle the material they've borrowed so that it doesn't become a cheap parody of the music from which they draw as their sources.
MusicaRicercata 1 year ago
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MusicaRicercata 1 year ago
the very sound of lunacy.
kassad84 2 years ago
thats johnny right?
victorbanner 2 years ago
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It's pretty poor and very plagiaristic. It doesn't hang together well at all, with a set of (often stolen) ideas thrown randomly together. One passage has been lifted straight from Penderecki's threnody. Great if it gets people interested in the truly great modern art music out there, but perhaps Greenwood ought to stick to pop music.
rovingrich 2 years ago
Where is this particular passage? I have the score of the Threnody with me... I haven't found a particular portion that coincides with PSR, but if you know where it is, I'm open to being proven wrong.
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago
Actually, Roving Rich is quite right about the threnody similarity. Listen from 3'00" - 3'30".
deweymusicchannel 2 years ago
I didn't say there wasn't; I simply asked for the particular passage in question. It's quite obvious Greenwood draws a lot from other composers.
But listening to this passage again, I can't help but draw parallels between this work, the Threnody, and also the closing bars of Xenakis' Metastasis. I think it should be noted, however, that while he is a little too late to be copying this exact technique (Threnody and Metastasis were of the 50s), I'm not actually opposed to this sort of homage.
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago
Do I hear the influence of Xenakis and Messiaen in this?
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago
well Jonny seems to be a big Messiaen's fans so that wouldn't be weird
taniatikaram 2 years ago
all the sound massy people.. penderecki especially i think.
whalewhalewhale 2 years ago
you will clearly hear Massiaen's influence in "smear"
pedrowasabi 2 years ago
Absolutely amazing.
chriso50 2 years ago 6
so very beautiful.
carterdea 2 years ago 6
Masterly.
youssefAA 3 years ago
Ingenious.
weas89el 3 years ago