When people put down people who want kids they are acting as if they are better than everyone else for they're life decision. I personally don't buy into the humans will destroy everything bs. I believe life will continue to exist...
WTF? valegorn said below that childfree people are afriad to have kids. Yeah right, he needs to realize that not everyone wants to be a breeder like him!
No, Valegorn, there was not any need to explain. Your comments were read and understood well. Sending you well wishes on your continued life's journey and do hope productive, interactive people skills are learned other than "Get ready for a fight, cuz I'm gonna shut you down." One day, you may encounter someone with a bigger bark than yours. People have personal agendas, and believe their own to be the right agenda. Best to you.\\
@NPB063 I'm more then willing to adjust/step down when a good point is made (even if I don't agree with it). A good example is the population issue, I can't really argue with that one. Another would be valuing a career over a family.
But I will not sit by while people say having kids in a traditional family is oppressive, old fashion, and broken, because the facts CLEARLY state otherwise. That's why I've posted on this video.
I thank you for your kind words, I wish you the best as well.
I hold a PhD in Clinical Psychology & spouse of 36 yrs holds a PhD in Public Administration. To brand our CFBC as stupid/immature is itself stupid/immature. Valegorn, it is you who threw the first punch with your, "All the other women out there are just afraid, immature & similar to children themselves." Your accusations were challenged & now you are gearing up for a fight & going to shut everyone down. Perhaps your time should be better managed caring for your child instead of fighting.
@NPB063 Actually you're wrong, I didn't throw the first punch, I responded to the video. I hope I don't have to explain the concept of You Tube to you, but usually the video makes a statement and the comments are for people to, well comment on.
For someone with a PhD you didn't read my comments very well, I'm insulting CFBC people who constantly insult, demean and belittle people who have kids. I hope I don't have to also explain the benefits of posterity to a PhD.
more criminals come from broken homes and single parents.
What I don't like about this video is that it makes traditional child-rearing to be oppressive. MULTIPLE studies from decades of work show that a good productive society comes from the traditional household with a stay at home parent. Don't believe me, look it up.
All this video says is, "raising kids is wrong/bad", the facts clearly disagree with this video.
...(continued)... diapers. If a child is what you want then adopt one of the throw away babies. You birthing another child will only take away from the planet's limited resources. Bringing life into this world is irresponsible and selfish.
I'm glad you have such a bleeding heart for all the "throw away babies" out there. Fact of the matter is, you are VERY wrong to tell people who and what to do with their posterity. If you feel so strongly about the limited resources of the planet, then put up and shut up, put your money where your mouth is and adopt a kid.
I hate to be the one to break this too you, but the world sucks, its not perfect, so wake up and stop being so stupid.
Valgorn,your ignorance speaks volumes. I am Child-free by CHOICE. To insinuate I am child-free because of fear is so far from reality. I simply do not want children. Praise to those who chose Child-free. Shame to those who chose to bring children into a world of limited resources available to care for the masses. One billion will die from starvation and lack of the basic necessary to sustain life. How can you justify the birth of your child when millions of babies lay in dirty cribs & filthy
@tbird54100 I hope I don't need to explain to you how we as humans come to our CHOICES, usually they are motivated by something, in this case the motivation is fear and more often then not, immaturity.
But this isn't my main beef with the CFBC crowd, I can respect your choice to not have kids, but when you insult those who do want kids and make them out to be bad or immoral, you've then shown the world your low level of intelligence and hypocrisy.
How nice to know that its people like Valegorn that are producing the next generation, lets hope they all turn out to be as vulgar and intolerant of others as he/she. The accusation that someone who risks their life to protect their countries borders is irresponsible and cowardly is ludicrous. Before making assumptions about another persons choices maybe you should take good long look in the mirror and address your deplorable attitude Valegorn.
Actually this is a good thing, it seems only mature grown up women are up to the task of being a mother. All the other women out there are just afraid, immature, and are very similar to children themselves. These make poor mothers.
So for all you women who don't want kids, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't have any. The world is messed up enough, we don't need any more victims of bad parenting.
Yay for immature childish women for not having kids
I don't want children and I'm a pilot in the air force. I also have an experimental type rating and fly L-39's. I also have a masters in chemistry, and a house, and a car, and a loving boyfriend. Am I not mature? How dare you. I suggest you take your head out of your ass,
Funny, you say you have x,y,z accomplishments yet you still troll on youtube? You could be an astronaut who fights space aliens with a PhD in Quantum Physics for all I care, if you don't have kids, chances are its because you're too afraid of being a parent and/or lack the maturity. Its ok, don't lie to yourself and everybody else, we know the truth. Besides it sounds like you're WAY to caught up being a hot shot, last thing we need is you being a parent anyways, you'd suck at it.
@valegorn I don't have kids because I DON'T WANT THEM. To label me as a troll because I've done something different with my life is pretty low. In fact, the reason I can be a "hot shot" is because I didn't have children. If having kids floats your boat fine, but stop insulting the women who do not have/want children. It doesn't mean they are immature, they might have expressed their maturity in a different way (career, volunteer, educator ect.).. Again, get your head out of your ass.
@lightfireme and you don't want kids because YOU'RE AFRAID OF IT. I'm happy you've found a career that is fulfilling, but my problem I have with Child-Free people is when they make their choice out to be a better more mature choice. BULLSHIT.
Just to correct you I'm not just insulting women who feel this way, I'm insulting men as well.
I'm more then ok with your choice not to have kids, just don't make me out to be a villain/immature for having kids.
@valegorn I'm not criticizing you for your choice. If having kids makes you happy, then go for it. I'm going to echo some of the other commenters here, because this applies to myself as well; I'm not afraid to have kids, I JUST DON'T WANT THEM. I don't want to have kids just like I don't want to be a lawyer, aid worker, engineer ect. To say that I'm/we're afraid of raising children is ignorant in many cases.
When people say, "shame on you for having kids" this makes me want to point out the immaturity and stupidity of their logic. I'm more then ok with you not having kids to fly planes, but don't say my choice of having kids is somehow less important or fulfilling. If child rearing is not for you then obviously parenting is not a good choice. Those who want to bark up my tree and say parenting is dumb, well get ready for a fight, cuz I'm going to shut you down.
@valegorn Even those who raise them on welfare, those who get pregnant as teens? Those who have kid after kid after kid that can't support them? Statistics show that more women are choosing to have a career than have kids. Statistics also show that the higher educated someone is, the less likely they will have kids, and the less educated are those who are having kids. It is not a woman's duty to have kids. I know I am more than just a walking uterus.
@tigerslilly29 Funny, even with their higher education they're still afraid of the biggest educating experience of their lives. Granted some can't have children due to health reasons, but there are MANY women out there who are just too afraid to shoulder the responsibility of kids. I just wanted to extend my thanks on behalf of the rest of us humans who don't want to see another dead beat parent having kids who's more interested in their career.
@valegorn Who says they're "afraid"? Maybe they just don't want to be parents? What's wrong with not wanting to parent? You seem to have a real problem w/ women who don't want kids, do you feel the same way about men who don't want kids? Why is it that you have such an issue w/ women wanting to do something else? "Litefireme" sounds like they're doing something much more interesting than parenting. They'd probably be better at it than most ppl who parent. What's your deal? Just curious.
@tigerslilly29 There is generally a reason they don't want to be parents, and 9 times out of 10, its because they're afraid.
I have no problem with PEOPLE (said noting about just women) who don't want kids. I just have a problem when they insult and are prejudice toward people who do have kids. When they start barking up my tree I tend to throw it right back at them. If they want to talk about how stupid my choice to have kids is, I'll talk about how afraid and stupid they are for their choice
@valegorn I don't think there's anything wrong with being afraid of parenting. Fear is there for a reason, to take caution. I don't believe that most ppl who don't want kids are afraid, even though some may be, and that's fine. I don't want kids, but I don't go around talking crap to people who have them. Even though I think most people shouldn't, just because parents seem to be getting lazier these days. But I agree, ppl w/o kids don't need to be insulting those who do.
@tigerslilly29 I also agree with you. The majority of childfree-by-choice folks don't bash those who do have kids. My comments are directed toward those who do (to all the youtube comments and opinionated CFBC vids).
I also agree with you, there is nothing wrong with being afraid of having kids, but when I'm taking flak for my choice to have kids, its hard not to throw that back at them.
So yeah, looks like we agree with each other tigerslilly29. There is nothing wrong with not having kids.
@valegorn Well, I'm all about people having choices. Having them or not, but really make sure you want them, because that is a job that's going to take up a lot of years. If someone wants to be a working parent, SAHM(D), or CF, it's nobody's business. That's what freedom and choices are all about! I don't want kids and I make that clear, but I never talk crap to someone I know that gets pregnant, or wants to be. What's the point, anyway? There isn't.
missing out on motherhood? how can you miss something you do not even know?
society adapts to the environment, and if we do not need to have hundreds of kids we simply won't have them. if we need to get them, we will. we do not even need to live with a man anymore
I'm so happy for this "impact." The sooner this world dies off, the happier I'll be! But I'm CF (not 'childless') so thankfully, none of these things will affect any of my kids:)
The so-called 'traditional' family model bases on the slavery of women. They were withheld from work, considered stupid, and used as free servants and whores to whom there's no need to pay. Now, the oppression of thousands of years is soonly coming to end. It would be need for an alternative family model, which distributes the main tasks (housework, child-raising, and of course earning of money) equally between men and women. Otherwise less and less women will give birth to children.
That guy's a bit of a dick. It's CHILDFREE not CHILDLESS! Also how could it mess up society? Less children to adopt and less children who are slowly dying? I don't get it. If anything we are doing this world a favor
Missing out on motherhood? WTF? Not all women think that they are missing out on this! Stupid commentator. Also, there are many orphans who need homes not to mention overpopulation and environment issues.
@enott93 Ding ding ding! Great answer! This is why I personally believe that having children is not only environmentally and ethically wrong, but spiritually as well. Most(if not all) religions have an underlying goal: liberation of the soul...so, why see it as a good thing to "imprison" an innocent soul to the constraints and limitations of human life? Not to mention pain and since death is a given, you're sentencing them to death just by bringing them into the world.Seems selfish.
"If the trend continues the impact on society could be enormous...."
Boohoo! Easy for you to say, you're a man! I would LOVE to see how many men would be willing to squeeze the equivalent child through their cocks, if it were the other way around! Exactly! And don't tell me what to do with my body, just so that "society" can benefit from my pain and suffering....
Wow what a patronising item! Women are not "missing out on motherhood" at all if they CHOOSE not to have kids.
MadameSheep 1 month ago 3
When people put down people who want kids they are acting as if they are better than everyone else for they're life decision. I personally don't buy into the humans will destroy everything bs. I believe life will continue to exist...
ChristinaWolfle 2 months ago
WTF? valegorn said below that childfree people are afriad to have kids. Yeah right, he needs to realize that not everyone wants to be a breeder like him!
IKTlover12 5 months ago 2
No, Valegorn, there was not any need to explain. Your comments were read and understood well. Sending you well wishes on your continued life's journey and do hope productive, interactive people skills are learned other than "Get ready for a fight, cuz I'm gonna shut you down." One day, you may encounter someone with a bigger bark than yours. People have personal agendas, and believe their own to be the right agenda. Best to you.\\
NPB063 6 months ago
@NPB063 I'm more then willing to adjust/step down when a good point is made (even if I don't agree with it). A good example is the population issue, I can't really argue with that one. Another would be valuing a career over a family.
But I will not sit by while people say having kids in a traditional family is oppressive, old fashion, and broken, because the facts CLEARLY state otherwise. That's why I've posted on this video.
I thank you for your kind words, I wish you the best as well.
valegorn 6 months ago
I hold a PhD in Clinical Psychology & spouse of 36 yrs holds a PhD in Public Administration. To brand our CFBC as stupid/immature is itself stupid/immature. Valegorn, it is you who threw the first punch with your, "All the other women out there are just afraid, immature & similar to children themselves." Your accusations were challenged & now you are gearing up for a fight & going to shut everyone down. Perhaps your time should be better managed caring for your child instead of fighting.
NPB063 6 months ago
@NPB063 Actually you're wrong, I didn't throw the first punch, I responded to the video. I hope I don't have to explain the concept of You Tube to you, but usually the video makes a statement and the comments are for people to, well comment on.
For someone with a PhD you didn't read my comments very well, I'm insulting CFBC people who constantly insult, demean and belittle people who have kids. I hope I don't have to also explain the benefits of posterity to a PhD.
valegorn 6 months ago
FACT:
more criminals come from broken homes and single parents.
What I don't like about this video is that it makes traditional child-rearing to be oppressive. MULTIPLE studies from decades of work show that a good productive society comes from the traditional household with a stay at home parent. Don't believe me, look it up.
All this video says is, "raising kids is wrong/bad", the facts clearly disagree with this video.
valegorn 6 months ago
...(continued)... diapers. If a child is what you want then adopt one of the throw away babies. You birthing another child will only take away from the planet's limited resources. Bringing life into this world is irresponsible and selfish.
tbird54100 6 months ago
@tbird54100 (comments on continuation)
I'm glad you have such a bleeding heart for all the "throw away babies" out there. Fact of the matter is, you are VERY wrong to tell people who and what to do with their posterity. If you feel so strongly about the limited resources of the planet, then put up and shut up, put your money where your mouth is and adopt a kid.
I hate to be the one to break this too you, but the world sucks, its not perfect, so wake up and stop being so stupid.
valegorn 6 months ago
Valgorn,your ignorance speaks volumes. I am Child-free by CHOICE. To insinuate I am child-free because of fear is so far from reality. I simply do not want children. Praise to those who chose Child-free. Shame to those who chose to bring children into a world of limited resources available to care for the masses. One billion will die from starvation and lack of the basic necessary to sustain life. How can you justify the birth of your child when millions of babies lay in dirty cribs & filthy
tbird54100 6 months ago
@tbird54100 I hope I don't need to explain to you how we as humans come to our CHOICES, usually they are motivated by something, in this case the motivation is fear and more often then not, immaturity.
But this isn't my main beef with the CFBC crowd, I can respect your choice to not have kids, but when you insult those who do want kids and make them out to be bad or immoral, you've then shown the world your low level of intelligence and hypocrisy.
stop looking for validation, you are wrong.
valegorn 6 months ago
How nice to know that its people like Valegorn that are producing the next generation, lets hope they all turn out to be as vulgar and intolerant of others as he/she. The accusation that someone who risks their life to protect their countries borders is irresponsible and cowardly is ludicrous. Before making assumptions about another persons choices maybe you should take good long look in the mirror and address your deplorable attitude Valegorn.
22akinf 8 months ago
Actually this is a good thing, it seems only mature grown up women are up to the task of being a mother. All the other women out there are just afraid, immature, and are very similar to children themselves. These make poor mothers.
So for all you women who don't want kids, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't have any. The world is messed up enough, we don't need any more victims of bad parenting.
Yay for immature childish women for not having kids
THE MORE YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!
valegorn 8 months ago
@valegorn
I don't want children and I'm a pilot in the air force. I also have an experimental type rating and fly L-39's. I also have a masters in chemistry, and a house, and a car, and a loving boyfriend. Am I not mature? How dare you. I suggest you take your head out of your ass,
lightfireme 8 months ago
@lightfireme
Funny, you say you have x,y,z accomplishments yet you still troll on youtube? You could be an astronaut who fights space aliens with a PhD in Quantum Physics for all I care, if you don't have kids, chances are its because you're too afraid of being a parent and/or lack the maturity. Its ok, don't lie to yourself and everybody else, we know the truth. Besides it sounds like you're WAY to caught up being a hot shot, last thing we need is you being a parent anyways, you'd suck at it.
valegorn 8 months ago
@valegorn I don't have kids because I DON'T WANT THEM. To label me as a troll because I've done something different with my life is pretty low. In fact, the reason I can be a "hot shot" is because I didn't have children. If having kids floats your boat fine, but stop insulting the women who do not have/want children. It doesn't mean they are immature, they might have expressed their maturity in a different way (career, volunteer, educator ect.).. Again, get your head out of your ass.
lightfireme 6 months ago
@lightfireme and you don't want kids because YOU'RE AFRAID OF IT. I'm happy you've found a career that is fulfilling, but my problem I have with Child-Free people is when they make their choice out to be a better more mature choice. BULLSHIT.
Just to correct you I'm not just insulting women who feel this way, I'm insulting men as well.
I'm more then ok with your choice not to have kids, just don't make me out to be a villain/immature for having kids.
valegorn 6 months ago
@valegorn I'm not criticizing you for your choice. If having kids makes you happy, then go for it. I'm going to echo some of the other commenters here, because this applies to myself as well; I'm not afraid to have kids, I JUST DON'T WANT THEM. I don't want to have kids just like I don't want to be a lawyer, aid worker, engineer ect. To say that I'm/we're afraid of raising children is ignorant in many cases.
lightfireme 6 months ago 2
@lightfireme I understand where you're coming from.
valegorn 6 months ago
@lightfireme (continued)
When people say, "shame on you for having kids" this makes me want to point out the immaturity and stupidity of their logic. I'm more then ok with you not having kids to fly planes, but don't say my choice of having kids is somehow less important or fulfilling. If child rearing is not for you then obviously parenting is not a good choice. Those who want to bark up my tree and say parenting is dumb, well get ready for a fight, cuz I'm going to shut you down.
valegorn 6 months ago
@valegorn Even those who raise them on welfare, those who get pregnant as teens? Those who have kid after kid after kid that can't support them? Statistics show that more women are choosing to have a career than have kids. Statistics also show that the higher educated someone is, the less likely they will have kids, and the less educated are those who are having kids. It is not a woman's duty to have kids. I know I am more than just a walking uterus.
tigerslilly29 8 months ago
@tigerslilly29 Funny, even with their higher education they're still afraid of the biggest educating experience of their lives. Granted some can't have children due to health reasons, but there are MANY women out there who are just too afraid to shoulder the responsibility of kids. I just wanted to extend my thanks on behalf of the rest of us humans who don't want to see another dead beat parent having kids who's more interested in their career.
valegorn 8 months ago
@valegorn Who says they're "afraid"? Maybe they just don't want to be parents? What's wrong with not wanting to parent? You seem to have a real problem w/ women who don't want kids, do you feel the same way about men who don't want kids? Why is it that you have such an issue w/ women wanting to do something else? "Litefireme" sounds like they're doing something much more interesting than parenting. They'd probably be better at it than most ppl who parent. What's your deal? Just curious.
tigerslilly29 8 months ago
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valegorn 8 months ago
@tigerslilly29 There is generally a reason they don't want to be parents, and 9 times out of 10, its because they're afraid.
I have no problem with PEOPLE (said noting about just women) who don't want kids. I just have a problem when they insult and are prejudice toward people who do have kids. When they start barking up my tree I tend to throw it right back at them. If they want to talk about how stupid my choice to have kids is, I'll talk about how afraid and stupid they are for their choice
valegorn 8 months ago
@valegorn I don't think there's anything wrong with being afraid of parenting. Fear is there for a reason, to take caution. I don't believe that most ppl who don't want kids are afraid, even though some may be, and that's fine. I don't want kids, but I don't go around talking crap to people who have them. Even though I think most people shouldn't, just because parents seem to be getting lazier these days. But I agree, ppl w/o kids don't need to be insulting those who do.
tigerslilly29 8 months ago
@tigerslilly29 I also agree with you. The majority of childfree-by-choice folks don't bash those who do have kids. My comments are directed toward those who do (to all the youtube comments and opinionated CFBC vids).
I also agree with you, there is nothing wrong with being afraid of having kids, but when I'm taking flak for my choice to have kids, its hard not to throw that back at them.
So yeah, looks like we agree with each other tigerslilly29. There is nothing wrong with not having kids.
valegorn 8 months ago
@valegorn Well, I'm all about people having choices. Having them or not, but really make sure you want them, because that is a job that's going to take up a lot of years. If someone wants to be a working parent, SAHM(D), or CF, it's nobody's business. That's what freedom and choices are all about! I don't want kids and I make that clear, but I never talk crap to someone I know that gets pregnant, or wants to be. What's the point, anyway? There isn't.
tigerslilly29 8 months ago
missing out on motherhood? how can you miss something you do not even know?
society adapts to the environment, and if we do not need to have hundreds of kids we simply won't have them. if we need to get them, we will. we do not even need to live with a man anymore
trekkicat 1 year ago 3
@trekkicat Exactly. You can't miss something you never had.
LadyRuin2012 1 year ago 3
@LadyRuin2012
or how can you miss somethingh you never want??? boggles the mind
KevinPatrickCarey 11 months ago 2
I'm so happy for this "impact." The sooner this world dies off, the happier I'll be! But I'm CF (not 'childless') so thankfully, none of these things will affect any of my kids:)
tigerslilly29 1 year ago 5
The so-called 'traditional' family model bases on the slavery of women. They were withheld from work, considered stupid, and used as free servants and whores to whom there's no need to pay. Now, the oppression of thousands of years is soonly coming to end. It would be need for an alternative family model, which distributes the main tasks (housework, child-raising, and of course earning of money) equally between men and women. Otherwise less and less women will give birth to children.
Harplute 1 year ago 6
That guy's a bit of a dick. It's CHILDFREE not CHILDLESS! Also how could it mess up society? Less children to adopt and less children who are slowly dying? I don't get it. If anything we are doing this world a favor
86thislove 1 year ago 5
Missing out on motherhood? WTF? Not all women think that they are missing out on this! Stupid commentator. Also, there are many orphans who need homes not to mention overpopulation and environment issues.
Tokyokatt 1 year ago 33
kids are ppl. some i like, some i dont. i prefer to be left alone.
if youre into religion (im not), why trap a soul in a body on this earth? just let him/her stay in heaven
enott93 1 year ago 13
@enott93 Ding ding ding! Great answer! This is why I personally believe that having children is not only environmentally and ethically wrong, but spiritually as well. Most(if not all) religions have an underlying goal: liberation of the soul...so, why see it as a good thing to "imprison" an innocent soul to the constraints and limitations of human life? Not to mention pain and since death is a given, you're sentencing them to death just by bringing them into the world.Seems selfish.
CactusHeart79 3 months ago 3
"If the trend continues the impact on society could be enormous...."
Boohoo! Easy for you to say, you're a man! I would LOVE to see how many men would be willing to squeeze the equivalent child through their cocks, if it were the other way around! Exactly! And don't tell me what to do with my body, just so that "society" can benefit from my pain and suffering....
artep2122 1 year ago 6
bravo! another intelligent person not brainwashed by society pressures! childfree people are smarter!
canadianskye1964 1 year ago 4