All you morons want to go out and push the limits with the police with your video cameras. Except for a VERY small amount of "Bad Apples", these officers do a extremely dangerous job for minimal pay. How about the next time you need the police, don't call them, just pull out your video camera. Then, if you are still able, let me know how that works out for you.
Understand- many who are justifiably investigated and arrested, hate the police just because they get caught, not because they are unfairly "bullied"...
@Blahblobify So what you're saying is, you are clean of drugs/booze/illegal guns, your friends and/or the places you hang out are clean, you dont steal, buglarize, assault anyone, but yet these bullhorn stick swinging rights violators accost you on a regular basis?
Yeah, you're not "legally required to" but how about if you haven't broken any law, why don't you just do the cops a favour in helping them do their job. Verifiable ID can eliminate you as a suspect if they are looking for a particular person or family.
How could this jeopardise you?
OK, this is good to know that you don't need to carry your ID everywhere, but if you do, why not help the cops when they ask?
@tgshark1 In my state, you must produce ID to an officer when asked to do so, under some circumstances. If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID. When stopped for a traffic violation. When police are called because of your behavior. One does not have to have imminent charges.
@Pafoofnik1 Police called to a stabbing. Wit says a white male with blue shirt and white shorts did it. Cops see blue shirt and white shorts guy in the area, with blood on his shirt. Stop and ask for ID. He refuses, citing SCOTUS. He will get cuffed up and taken in. Every single time. Legally.
@dmedicFF: You are correct, now that you've changed you story.
You original comment: ""If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID" is still false according to the Supreme Court.
@Pafoofnik1 yeah....looking for a suspect in a stabbing, seeing a person matching the description with blood on him is "investigating a situation" and completely reasonable to consider this person "may be involved".....never changed my story idiot
@Pafoofnik1 Youre full of crap every time I deal with you. You lose an issue, then twist words and concepts around. In all of these similar scenarios, the individual must definitively ID themselves. 100% of the time, this involves "showing" a photo ID of some sort. What else you got?
@dmedicFF said: "Youre full of crap every time I deal with you."
Of course I am going to call out anyone that lies about the existence of a law if I am positive it doesn't exist. If you wouldn't have lied, then this conversation would not even exist.
Hey, it's very simple to stop me in my tracks, just cite any state law that requires me to show a form of identification in the case of "If he/she is investigating a situation and feels (I) may be involved".
@Pafoofnik1 You ARE full of crap.....however, if you ever find yourself in one of these encounters, then refuse to show your ID. Cops dont care. You will get cuffed up and taken away anyway. Your defense attorney will supply the police with your ID.
@dmedicFF: I see you haven;' been able to find that proof of your lie that "If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID"
This doesn't surprise me.
Thanks for helping me show others that no such law exists.
As someone in LE, I do admit these videos are pretty impressive and that they are fairly accurate. You only have to give ID when it comes to operation of a motor vehicle (that's the law in my area). As for @skylerrb you are a disgrace.
When do i have to show the police my ID? : whenever the fuck we command you to. When i was an officer i gave you 20 seconds to show me your ID, and if you didn't you got whatever my lion rage was feeling that day.
What do I do if I get stopped outside of a bar while waiting for a cab. I pulled up to a bar one night to get a friend who knew they were too drunk to drive. The bar was closed so they were standing outside waiting for me. As I got out of the car three officers walked up to him and arrested him for public intoxication. He was waiting for a ride, was that legal?
@Cantstopthebaddancer Public Intoxication is a fancy word for drunk and disorderly, if he wasn't causing any trouble e.t.c and just waiting for a ride, then yes, it was an illegal arrest.
@Cantstopthebaddancer it is not necessarily "illegal" he was intoxicated in public. He was at a business after the business had closed so that could be grounds for reasonable suspicion. However, to me sounds like those cops were just being dickheads.
@Cantstopthebaddancer Most PI laws dictate you must be "manifestly" under the influence. Disorderly behavior, publicly urinating, annoying people, unconscious/sleeping it off on a bench, these are a few examples that could get you arrested. Staggering about in public, making a danger to yourself or others can be considered public intox. Calmly standing, not "manifestly" drunk, is not a crime.
No law enforcement officer or agent has any right to ever ask for your ID. You do not own your ID. It is state property and you are therefore an "EMPLOYEE" of the state. This is how they assume control over you. You do not need a driver's license or ID to travel. It is a right! Your 10th Amendment and 4th Amendment rights are superior to any law enforcement officer's or agent's supposed will or influence. All govt. employees are enemies of the the state. ROD CLASS v. STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
@glennwih Oh? And what else do the voices tell you good sir? Please, preach to us and show us the true and glorious path to freedom and enlightenment!
@glennwih Try being sane and coherent. I have no access to your medical records, so I have to go off of the content of your chosen method of communication. That said, the lengths to which people will go to just get out of paying taxes in their various incarnations boggles my mind.
@daolong51279 Ad hominems are a weak form of arguement. You obviously are perplexed and amazed by my comments. Instead of being an unaware, un-awakened sheep, try opening your eyes for once. I earned my BA in Political Science and have worked for several law firms.You obviously are talking out your ass. Research Rod Class on rayservers. You are welcome.
lol fuck police after 20 years of service they getting what 120 000 a years lolll let me laugh at 21 years old making 5000$ a week it not a joke bitch ass nigga fuck police modern slave of central banking monetary system like all ''good citizens that follow laws like fucking sheeps loll since 2012 military in u.s.a can arrests and putt in jail anybody the time they want in america whitout trials....thank for all the sheeps to let that happened....
But why refuse to show ID if you have nothing to hide? Refusal to comply can only lead to suspicion, though not under investigation the officer may now see something is wrong. While you might have the right to retain ID, doesnt mean its the smartist thing to do, especially when the police cant gain anything from it (unless youre wanted)
@Snapshot290: Why you think people need to justify their reason for exercising a right?
Courts have repeatably found that exercising a right, like the right to refuse a request for ID under most circumstances, cannot be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
@Pafoofnik1 "like the right to refuse a request for ID under most circumstances, cannot be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal activity."
In theory that might be the case - but in reality that will mean you will have to go to court and waste hours ( or even days) of your time -- which you will most likely not get compensated for..
Were as if you complied you would probably only have wasted a few minutes of your time.
@badpanda84: It't not theory at all. It's court case decisions that can be referenced should some officer be foolish enough to use my refusal as reasonable suspicion.
I will not be giving up my rights just because doing so is a waste of my time. You, of course, are free to do so if that what you wish.
@badpanda84: I won the money I was owed, plus all the expenses I incurred taking the cases to court, including the time spent working on the cases, the time actually in court, courts costs, drive time, mileage, etc.
@badpanda84: I never said I was charged, and you never said that was a parameter when you said "you know the only people who win when you "fight for your right" are the lawyers.."
@danbeb: That is usually the case, but wasn't in my cases. I didn't sue the government in these cases because it wasn't at fault. I sued the individuals directly (and a company in one case).
I wish we could get 'loser pays' in litigation with governmental agencies. I can't count the times I came out 'right' yet the government droid I collected from knew it didn't affect his department in the least.
I have found that in NY, when you comply and are polite to a police officer, they will in most cases let you go, unless you really have something to hide. My best advice is...DON'T GET CAUGHT!
MANY Mistakes firstly, "they" cannot take away ANY of YOUR rights,, " THEY" can ONLY interfere with Your Rights
Secondly wHAT IF U say.,. " I am not a U.S. citizen", can then the Patriot Act (U.S. Code) be used against U, is this a worldwide Code?
Thirdly it is not YOUR home if u used "their" DEBT instrument "their green federal reseve notes" (better example, if you pay taxes on “anything” it is NOT Yours, once U own it U can no longer be assessed a tax upon it )
as it would be the TRUTH, when he asks whats Your Name?
Say,.,.
"I never gave myself a name, because i Never felt the need to talk to myself"
Or
"I have decided not to use a name anymore in my lifetime becuase it just gets annoying when strangers come up to me and ask me to give it away to them for free”
@cdimmm "there is no "law" that requires you to show id."
The video clearly states the law differs from state to state -- therefore in some states you have to show ID.
This video is acutally pretty useuless because he is essientally saying you might or might not have to show ID -- depend on the state you live in --( but he dosent mention which states the laws apply)
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot Not even remotely accurate. They already have the Patriot Act, which can be used to take ANYONES rights away by simply stating they are a suspected terrorist. Without any proof, of any kind, they can use that magic word and search you without a warrant, detain you forever without telling anyone where you are, no phone call no charges no nothing. They can also tap your phones... America is by far the most corrupt government in the entire world.
@BC1Dan No? I certainly wasn't. The Patriot Act allows them to take anyones rights away by simply saying they are a suspected terrorist. They can use this on ANY American, with no proof of any kind that you are actually a terrorist. Tapping your phones without any evidence? searching your home while your not there without a warrant? detaining you FOREVER without charging you or giving you a phonecall or even telling your family where you are? this is all shit that they can do now
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot I said whodunnit, it literally had no context to your comment, I made no argument against anything you said.. So you are trolling or retarded, take your pick bro
Long story short I'm white my dad a federal judge. And I beaten down them boys in blue. Skip town never going back. Sell have the tasted in my mouth every time I see tem squad cars.
haha. He's telling the truth. The police will try to pressure you, but you have rights. The old saying "if you have nothing to hide, then don't worry" is bullshxt. If you don't legally have to do it, then it doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not.
In the United States, interactions between police and citizens fall into three general categories: consensual (“contact” or “conversation”), detention (often called a Terry stop, after Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)), or arrest. “Stop and identify” laws pertain to detentions.
Different obligations apply to drivers of automobiles, who generally are required by state vehicle codes to present a driver’s license to a police officer upon request.
At any time, a police officer may approach a person and ask questions. The objective may simply be a friendly conversation; however, the officer also may suspect involvement in a crime, but lack “specific and articulable facts”[4] that would justify a detention or arrest, and hope to obtain these facts from the questioning. The person approached is not required to identify herself or answer any other questions, and may leave at any time.[5] Police are not usually required
Duh! if I have noting to hide! That is not the point-Remember the camel with the cold nose, the man let him warm his nose under his tent-then his head neck and whole camel! Once the police state takes over, our rights become eroded to a point of no rights. They are RIGHTS! we have a duty to insist on our rights-you wanna be a goody goody and bow to the 'servants' that is your RIGHT not mine!
why does it matter if they look at your ID? just show them. it doesnt do anything except tell them who you are. if youve done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, your ID shouldnt need to be a secret.
really ive been walking home piss drunk and stoped by cops, they say ID ! im like here ya go, they run it and they say have a good night.. One even gave me a ride home XD no shit, they could have charged me with public drunkeness but didnt even give a fuck.
When do I have to show police my ID? maybe you could when they ask for it? or ...you could act like your guilty of something and refuse to... LOL like really they just want to check for warrents, if you dont have one thell be gone in a min or two. let them do there job, so many people bitch they dont do there job, so shut the fuck up give them ID and they will leave. You act like you got something to hide they think you do simple as that.
This is tupid because we all have the RIGHT to be safe! This is a small price to pay for a little security. If you haven't done anything wrong, you shouldn't have a problem with it. How would you like it if your loved one was raped or killed by a fugitive that "had the right " not to show ID when they looked suspicious to a cop? Then you'd be complaining that they didn't protect you! Get off the idiot train.
@voiceovreason42 "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. " ~~ Benjamin Franklin
but if i have nothing to hide then why would i not consent to a search or handing over my ID unless i was in a rush to get somewhere that is my only question. cause if you got nothng to hid then they can search all the want and still find nothing
Until "U" learn that being a Citizen/Subject makes "U" property of those that "U" claim are in control of "U",
"U" have waivered the rights God gave "U", as a [wo]man , made in his/her image.
The US Constitution is a CONTRACT, made between the States and the Feds, NOT between Man-and-Man
If U do not Claim to be property (that which is proper; belonging to) "Citizen/Subject" of a "State", then it has NOTHING to do with U as a ...."Man", or "[wo]Man"
@kldirectv2 ...so what rights do i have as a us citizen, to not be subjected to us and state laws? that is the confusing part...i can't just state that the police or feds don't have jurisdiction over me..they'll laugh and arrest me and then i'll be subject to their punishments...so, no matter what, i essence, all humans don't own themselves, because it doesn't matter because the authorities control us...
@badpanda84 Ooh YOUR too Cute lol,,"10" like the "10" Commandments (Law of Moses)...toooo funny.. did You go to Public School?
For in
The Mosaic Law (Moses) is what we are most concerned about in relation to the New Testament believer. (hence christian)
It consists of 365 negative commands and 248 positive for a total of 613 commandments. These may also be divided into three parts or sections (see below)—the moral, the social, and the ceremonial.
I love how everyone bad mouths cops and knows all the laws and had no problem telling police how to do their job of protecting the good public... I wonder if these same people tell their doctor how to remove an appendix... :/
@RcT567 hmmm well maybe its because a doctor is a specialist on medicine and a cop is not a specialist on the law, in most cases you know the law better then some 22 year old cop with repressed anger from being bullied in high school cops are assholes and if they werent always assholes being in their job will make them assholes, they will ford your rights without turning a finger if you let them.
@123412312155112 MAybe cops are always assholes because millions of Dicks such as your self are always being asshole to the cops. you would be a little bit cranky to if "death by gunshot" was a likely scenario in your daily line of work instead of flipping burgers.
@superjump01 ya except in my city there isnt much cop killing going on its just a bunch of asshole cops who fuck with you for no reason cops are scumbags they're the kids who got beat up in high school so they extract revenge by becoming an asshole cop
@lolololitsrichie obviously you've never been to court on charges jacked up by asshole cops go ahead and wish me luck im in court on friday on some wack tresspassing charges
@123412312155112 you're right. cause i abide the law. i haven't met an 'asshole cop'. sounds like you're generalizing them with bad experience and bias. don't break the law and there won't be an issue.
@klatlap: I see no reason the change the Constitution with regards to identification. If you wish to, then please have at it. You certainly have your work cut out.
I do not see a problem with individual rights. Neither does the Constitution. If you feel that I am somehow 'wrong' because of my beliefs, then please go pound sand.
@123412312155112 - I never said anything, but it would make sense for someone your age too not comprehend. Even though man, or even most can or do, but I just hope you are young. Once you grow up, you will see those rights take place in your life. You will see. All of us will confront it at some point.
@ceraleater123 no, the Canadian Constitution is suprisingly well written and affords far greater protections than ours here in America. You should read your own Constitution sometime, I found it exeptional.
Why should we have to show our ID at all, considering the federal government is doing everything in it's power to stop the states from getting proper documents from illegals.
whats good is that police have found legal ways to get the information they want from citizens even if they have to part the proverbial sea of bullshit that the citizen decides to dish out at them to obtain it. the "i know my rights" line only goes so far. 90% of these idiots dont know their rights and usually end up in jail. sometimes a little cooperation goes a long way. keep up the good job officers!! u have my support!!!
You do not need to produce an ID for a police officer unless you were pulled over as the driver of the vehicle. In said case, your license, registration, and proof of insurance will be asked of you. These, you must submit.
If an officer approaches you and asks to see ID, you don't have to produce for them. Just ask them if you're being detained/am I free to go. That's literally all you have to say to them regardless of their questions. If you're free to go, go about your business.
@SRPowers2891 yeah i know right, now being on the side walk where i live u dont have to give them a ID, but u do have to ID urself with a name or something so long as ur not driving some form of vehicle
Here in the netherlands, you need to show your ID whenever a cop askes you to, even if your just walking your dog and a cop askes for your ID. dont do this and youll be 50 euros lighter
@MJ4everTheKing The right to be arrested without bodily harm is something that scores high on my list. The right to do with your own body whatever you want without hurting others scores high on my list. The right to wear whatever I want scores high on my list. I have to show ID atleast 1 time everyday. Fucking Albert Heijn is on a nazi tour, I am 23 and still they ask me for ID for cigs or alcohol every goddamn day. Showing my ID to a cop once a year is nothing.
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All you morons want to go out and push the limits with the police with your video cameras. Except for a VERY small amount of "Bad Apples", these officers do a extremely dangerous job for minimal pay. How about the next time you need the police, don't call them, just pull out your video camera. Then, if you are still able, let me know how that works out for you.
swyattthis1now 2 days ago
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Blahblobify 3 days ago
@Blahblobify They are Police officers.
If you are a Criminal, who the fuck are You to refuse?
dmedicFF 2 days ago
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Blahblobify 2 days ago
@Blahblobify Gimmie some examples of "nothing".
Understand- many who are justifiably investigated and arrested, hate the police just because they get caught, not because they are unfairly "bullied"...
dmedicFF 2 days ago
@Blahblobify So what you're saying is, you are clean of drugs/booze/illegal guns, your friends and/or the places you hang out are clean, you dont steal, buglarize, assault anyone, but yet these bullhorn stick swinging rights violators accost you on a regular basis?
dmedicFF 2 days ago
@dmedicFF
No kid, not "on a regular basis".
Just a half dozen times in my 60 years.
And they've always been dicks about it.
happy now?
Blahblobify 1 day ago
@Blahblobify No....what were you doing?
If you were being a Dick, then you deserve being treated like a Dick.
dmedicFF 1 day ago
@dmedicFF
no asshole, i was Just walking down the street or sitting in public.
FUCK THE POLICE
Blahblobify 1 day ago
@Blahblobify Sorry- dont believe it.
dmedicFF 19 hours ago
Yeah, you're not "legally required to" but how about if you haven't broken any law, why don't you just do the cops a favour in helping them do their job. Verifiable ID can eliminate you as a suspect if they are looking for a particular person or family.
How could this jeopardise you?
OK, this is good to know that you don't need to carry your ID everywhere, but if you do, why not help the cops when they ask?
Treblaine 4 days ago
This is a pointless video -- so basically he is saying you might or might not have to show ID..
So if an officer asked for ID what are you going to do "Excuse me officer I just going to call the ACU officer before I show ID"
badpanda84 5 days ago 2
79 people who disliked this video where police who ask for id straight away
1sammyi 5 days ago
you only have to produce ID if you are being criminally charged PERIOD.
tgshark1 5 days ago
@tgshark1 In my state, you must produce ID to an officer when asked to do so, under some circumstances. If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID. When stopped for a traffic violation. When police are called because of your behavior. One does not have to have imminent charges.
dmedicFF 4 days ago
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Pafoofnik1 4 days ago
@dmedicFF said: "If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID."
Not according to the Supreme Court.
I imagine if you read your state's statutes on stop and identify, you'll find that it does not require a person to 'show' ID/
Pafoofnik1 4 days ago
@Pafoofnik1 Police called to a stabbing. Wit says a white male with blue shirt and white shorts did it. Cops see blue shirt and white shorts guy in the area, with blood on his shirt. Stop and ask for ID. He refuses, citing SCOTUS. He will get cuffed up and taken in. Every single time. Legally.
dmedicFF 4 days ago
@dmedicFF: You are correct, now that you've changed you story.
You original comment: ""If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID" is still false according to the Supreme Court.
Pafoofnik1 4 days ago
@Pafoofnik1 yeah....looking for a suspect in a stabbing, seeing a person matching the description with blood on him is "investigating a situation" and completely reasonable to consider this person "may be involved".....never changed my story idiot
dmedicFF 3 days ago
@dmedicFF: Of course you did. Let's look at your original comment:
"If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID"
In your second comment, you omitted the part about 'show'.
The Supreme Court has acknowledged that a person does not have to 'show' a thing.
Your original comment is still false.
Pafoofnik1 3 days ago
@Pafoofnik1 Youre full of crap every time I deal with you. You lose an issue, then twist words and concepts around. In all of these similar scenarios, the individual must definitively ID themselves. 100% of the time, this involves "showing" a photo ID of some sort. What else you got?
dmedicFF 3 days ago
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@dmedicFF said: "Youre full of crap every time I deal with you."
Of course I am going to call out anyone that lies about the existence of a law if I am positive it doesn't exist. If you wouldn't have lied, then this conversation would not even exist.
Hey, it's very simple to stop me in my tracks, just cite any state law that requires me to show a form of identification in the case of "If he/she is investigating a situation and feels (I) may be involved".
Pafoofnik1 3 days ago
@Pafoofnik1 You ARE full of crap.....however, if you ever find yourself in one of these encounters, then refuse to show your ID. Cops dont care. You will get cuffed up and taken away anyway. Your defense attorney will supply the police with your ID.
dmedicFF 2 days ago
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@dmedicFF: I see you haven;' been able to find that proof of your lie that "If he/she is investigating a situation and feels you may be involved- yes you must show ID"
This doesn't surprise me.
Thanks for helping me show others that no such law exists.
Pafoofnik1 1 day ago
As someone in LE, I do admit these videos are pretty impressive and that they are fairly accurate. You only have to give ID when it comes to operation of a motor vehicle (that's the law in my area). As for @skylerrb you are a disgrace.
DominicanOps 6 days ago
When do i have to show the police my ID? : whenever the fuck we command you to. When i was an officer i gave you 20 seconds to show me your ID, and if you didn't you got whatever my lion rage was feeling that day.
skylerrb 6 days ago
@skylerrb your a faggot
lvl1def1 6 days ago
@lvl1def1 you're
FoxRacinf4 6 days ago
@skylerrb You think, because you wear a uniform, a person won't right hook you? try that shit with me one day ;)
TheRealEmskiHelp 6 days ago
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@TheRealEmskiHelp i'm sure your an atheist.
skylerrb 6 days ago
@skylerrb: I understand why you "was an officer" now.
Pafoofnik1 6 days ago
@skylerrb typical cop
willuberpants 6 days ago
What do I do if I get stopped outside of a bar while waiting for a cab. I pulled up to a bar one night to get a friend who knew they were too drunk to drive. The bar was closed so they were standing outside waiting for me. As I got out of the car three officers walked up to him and arrested him for public intoxication. He was waiting for a ride, was that legal?
Cantstopthebaddancer 1 week ago
@Cantstopthebaddancer Public Intoxication is a fancy word for drunk and disorderly, if he wasn't causing any trouble e.t.c and just waiting for a ride, then yes, it was an illegal arrest.
TheRealEmskiHelp 6 days ago
@Cantstopthebaddancer it is not necessarily "illegal" he was intoxicated in public. He was at a business after the business had closed so that could be grounds for reasonable suspicion. However, to me sounds like those cops were just being dickheads.
MrMolmem 4 days ago
@Cantstopthebaddancer Most PI laws dictate you must be "manifestly" under the influence. Disorderly behavior, publicly urinating, annoying people, unconscious/sleeping it off on a bench, these are a few examples that could get you arrested. Staggering about in public, making a danger to yourself or others can be considered public intox. Calmly standing, not "manifestly" drunk, is not a crime.
dmedicFF 2 days ago
No law enforcement officer or agent has any right to ever ask for your ID. You do not own your ID. It is state property and you are therefore an "EMPLOYEE" of the state. This is how they assume control over you. You do not need a driver's license or ID to travel. It is a right! Your 10th Amendment and 4th Amendment rights are superior to any law enforcement officer's or agent's supposed will or influence. All govt. employees are enemies of the the state. ROD CLASS v. STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
glennwih 1 week ago
@glennwih Oh? And what else do the voices tell you good sir? Please, preach to us and show us the true and glorious path to freedom and enlightenment!
daolong51279 1 week ago
@daolong51279 You're kinda of an idiot right? Go do the research before you make stupid comments.
glennwih 1 week ago
@glennwih Try being sane and coherent. I have no access to your medical records, so I have to go off of the content of your chosen method of communication. That said, the lengths to which people will go to just get out of paying taxes in their various incarnations boggles my mind.
daolong51279 1 week ago
@daolong51279 Ad hominems are a weak form of arguement. You obviously are perplexed and amazed by my comments. Instead of being an unaware, un-awakened sheep, try opening your eyes for once. I earned my BA in Political Science and have worked for several law firms.You obviously are talking out your ass. Research Rod Class on rayservers. You are welcome.
glennwih 1 week ago
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lol fuck police after 20 years of service they getting what 120 000 a years lolll let me laugh at 21 years old making 5000$ a week it not a joke bitch ass nigga fuck police modern slave of central banking monetary system like all ''good citizens that follow laws like fucking sheeps loll since 2012 military in u.s.a can arrests and putt in jail anybody the time they want in america whitout trials....thank for all the sheeps to let that happened....
motarido 1 week ago
Corny video! What police officer stays in a car, asking for ID? LOL
klingenator 2 weeks ago
@klingenator ive had it before.
kingeggzzz 1 week ago
But why refuse to show ID if you have nothing to hide? Refusal to comply can only lead to suspicion, though not under investigation the officer may now see something is wrong. While you might have the right to retain ID, doesnt mean its the smartist thing to do, especially when the police cant gain anything from it (unless youre wanted)
Snapshot290 2 weeks ago
@Snapshot290: Why you think people need to justify their reason for exercising a right?
Courts have repeatably found that exercising a right, like the right to refuse a request for ID under most circumstances, cannot be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
Pafoofnik1 2 weeks ago
@Pafoofnik1 "like the right to refuse a request for ID under most circumstances, cannot be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal activity."
In theory that might be the case - but in reality that will mean you will have to go to court and waste hours ( or even days) of your time -- which you will most likely not get compensated for..
Were as if you complied you would probably only have wasted a few minutes of your time.
badpanda84 1 week ago
@badpanda84: It't not theory at all. It's court case decisions that can be referenced should some officer be foolish enough to use my refusal as reasonable suspicion.
I will not be giving up my rights just because doing so is a waste of my time. You, of course, are free to do so if that what you wish.
Pafoofnik1 1 week ago
@Pafoofnik1 "I will not be giving up my rights just because doing so is a waste of my time. "
LOL fair enough but you know the only people who win when you "fight for your right" are the lawyers..
Its not only a waste of time -- but alway a waste of money-- lawyers arent cheap.
badpanda84 1 week ago
@badpanda84: Thanks for sharing your opinion with me, but it's a flawed opinion.
I've been to court a few times. Never needed a lawyer. And I've every case so far.
Pafoofnik1 1 week ago
@Pafoofnik1 yeah but what did you win exactly -- were you compesated for you time in court
badpanda84 1 week ago
@badpanda84: I won the money I was owed, plus all the expenses I incurred taking the cases to court, including the time spent working on the cases, the time actually in court, courts costs, drive time, mileage, etc.
Pafoofnik1 1 week ago
@Pafoofnik1 So what exactly were you charge with again
badpanda84 1 week ago
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@badpanda84: I never said I was charged, and you never said that was a parameter when you said "you know the only people who win when you "fight for your right" are the lawyers.."
Pafoofnik1 1 week ago
@Pafoofnik1 Unfortunately the taxpayers compensated you, not the cops.
danbeb 1 week ago
@danbeb: That is usually the case, but wasn't in my cases. I didn't sue the government in these cases because it wasn't at fault. I sued the individuals directly (and a company in one case).
I wish we could get 'loser pays' in litigation with governmental agencies. I can't count the times I came out 'right' yet the government droid I collected from knew it didn't affect his department in the least.
Pafoofnik1 1 week ago
I have found that in NY, when you comply and are polite to a police officer, they will in most cases let you go, unless you really have something to hide. My best advice is...DON'T GET CAUGHT!
Bobster986 2 weeks ago
This is a great dvd.
Efurst7 2 weeks ago
why do i feel like this channel is teaching me to become a super criminal
TahRahJoh 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from FlexYourRights
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MANY Mistakes firstly, "they" cannot take away ANY of YOUR rights,, " THEY" can ONLY interfere with Your Rights
Secondly wHAT IF U say.,. " I am not a U.S. citizen", can then the Patriot Act (U.S. Code) be used against U, is this a worldwide Code?
Thirdly it is not YOUR home if u used "their" DEBT instrument "their green federal reseve notes" (better example, if you pay taxes on “anything” it is NOT Yours, once U own it U can no longer be assessed a tax upon it )
kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
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Fouthly
"your" conversation (phone) once it leaves your (lol) home/property, it is WITHIN the PUBLIC Venue
Fifthly
detaining U forever is legal (according to YOUR Constitution , well if U are a U.S. Citizen , for U are "thier" Property
See US Const. article 1 sec 8 clause 18,
(WHATEVER ANY U.S. Officer DEEMs is necessary and proper to preseve the U.S. Govt)
kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
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LOL , Just tell the Cop,
as it would be the TRUTH, when he asks whats Your Name?
Say,.,.
"I never gave myself a name, because i Never felt the need to talk to myself"
Or
"I have decided not to use a name anymore in my lifetime becuase it just gets annoying when strangers come up to me and ask me to give it away to them for free”
kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
In the state of ohio if you refuse to show an I.D. at anytime street ot not you will be arrested for failure to I.D.
sgtkevg 3 weeks ago
@sgtkevg said: "In the state of ohio if you refuse to show an I.D. at anytime"
Please cite the statute behind this law you just made up.
Thanks.
Pafoofnik1 3 weeks ago
there is no "law" that requires you to show id. If there is a LAW Mr. ponytail please post it
cdimmm 3 weeks ago
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@cdimmm "there is no "law" that requires you to show id."
The video clearly states the law differs from state to state -- therefore in some states you have to show ID.
This video is acutally pretty useuless because he is essientally saying you might or might not have to show ID -- depend on the state you live in --( but he dosent mention which states the laws apply)
badpanda84 1 week ago
thumbs if you got here from watching anonymous videos
TheSuperMarioBros2 3 weeks ago
there is no point in rreefusing unless you just escaped from prison
nevno1 3 weeks ago
is that dr.phill ?
ROCK2MO 3 weeks ago
The US Gov. is bad real bad but better that anyother.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot Not even remotely accurate. They already have the Patriot Act, which can be used to take ANYONES rights away by simply stating they are a suspected terrorist. Without any proof, of any kind, they can use that magic word and search you without a warrant, detain you forever without telling anyone where you are, no phone call no charges no nothing. They can also tap your phones... America is by far the most corrupt government in the entire world.
toThe9thPower 3 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower who questioned that.
keauno2003 3 weeks ago
@keauno2003 Some guy said the us government is bad, but better then any other... so I was explaining to them why this is not accurate..
toThe9thPower 3 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower Churchill WWII
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 2 weeks ago
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot wtf are you even talking about?
toThe9thPower 2 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower
I'm just gonna take that from your statement you were over-exaggerating?
BC1Dan 3 weeks ago
@BC1Dan No? I certainly wasn't. The Patriot Act allows them to take anyones rights away by simply saying they are a suspected terrorist. They can use this on ANY American, with no proof of any kind that you are actually a terrorist. Tapping your phones without any evidence? searching your home while your not there without a warrant? detaining you FOREVER without charging you or giving you a phonecall or even telling your family where you are? this is all shit that they can do now
toThe9thPower 3 weeks ago
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kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
@kldirectv2 whodunnit?
toThe9thPower 3 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower
Who Done what, Sir?
kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
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@toThe9thPower If You wondered who wrote in US Const. article 1 sec 8 clause 18, read the history of clause "18"
and U will see HALF of the delegates INCLUDING Patrick Henry
WALKED out becuase
THEY KNEW "18"
MAkes the FEDS "KING"...
So keep SQUEELING ABout How WONDERFUL the Constitution is.. U are NOT Dumb
Just I am Sorry No one before me TOLD u the truth
kldirectv2 3 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower True but FDR did the same thing
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 2 weeks ago
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot Oh I get it, you are trolling me. Cool
toThe9thPower 2 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower Not trolling showing I'm right and you are wrong
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 2 weeks ago
@TheGunsoutdoorsshoot I said whodunnit, it literally had no context to your comment, I made no argument against anything you said.. So you are trolling or retarded, take your pick bro
toThe9thPower 2 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower I'd wager troll :P
MaxKarepov 2 weeks ago
@toThe9thPower Name a case were that happen
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 2 weeks ago
Also my spelling is 3rd grade but far from stupid.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
The bill of rights are each supportinve of each other. Take one out they all go down.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
The US is a republic not a democracy
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
Cazy ship happens.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
Come on man WE THE PEPLE
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
My Dad a Federal Judge.
Long story short I'm white my dad a federal judge. And I beaten down them boys in blue. Skip town never going back. Sell have the tasted in my mouth every time I see tem squad cars.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
Cop: "Let me see your ID."
Citizen: "Hold on while I call the ACLU..."
Ya, that should go over well.
jdswiney 4 weeks ago
yeah i dont wonna check 50 state laws so im gonna just check my 11 province laws :)
EzraMurdock115 1 month ago
im goin to share all these videos
dkcrook5 1 month ago
what is different when it comes to county jurisdiction vs city jurisdiction?
theresaramos7 1 month ago
this happend to me the other day..lol im to freaked out to do anything they tell me to do in these vids how do i know this guys not lying to me
TheOhlalakp 1 month ago
@TheOhlalakp
haha. He's telling the truth. The police will try to pressure you, but you have rights. The old saying "if you have nothing to hide, then don't worry" is bullshxt. If you don't legally have to do it, then it doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not.
vincentrich 1 month ago
@vincentrich "If you don't legally have to do it, then it doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not."
Yes it dose --because it make the diffrence between a 5 minute police encounter or having go to court for hours.
badpanda84 1 week ago
@TheOhlalakp It is the truth, check your state law.
FireFighter0254 1 month ago
you didnt even answer the fucking question that you advertise. GAY
ericmarshall19 1 month ago
where can I find something like this in Australia?
tweaksOne 1 month ago
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In the United States, interactions between police and citizens fall into three general categories: consensual (“contact” or “conversation”), detention (often called a Terry stop, after Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)), or arrest. “Stop and identify” laws pertain to detentions.
Different obligations apply to drivers of automobiles, who generally are required by state vehicle codes to present a driver’s license to a police officer upon request.
[edit] Consensual
grussell903 1 month ago 2
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Consensual
At any time, a police officer may approach a person and ask questions. The objective may simply be a friendly conversation; however, the officer also may suspect involvement in a crime, but lack “specific and articulable facts”[4] that would justify a detention or arrest, and hope to obtain these facts from the questioning. The person approached is not required to identify herself or answer any other questions, and may leave at any time.[5] Police are not usually required
grussell903 1 month ago 2
How do I show you an ID that I do not have? How can you force me in to a contract that I do not agree with?
bugsz1 1 month ago
I KNEW THESE WERE FILMED IN MARYLAND!
Jaaerk 1 month ago
Can I do this in TX??
TheNerdSwagg 1 month ago
Prince Georges County? Was this filmed in MD?
undertake782 1 month ago
lol prince george's county cops are the biggest assholes
chrhem1234 1 month ago
Duh! if I have noting to hide! That is not the point-Remember the camel with the cold nose, the man let him warm his nose under his tent-then his head neck and whole camel! Once the police state takes over, our rights become eroded to a point of no rights. They are RIGHTS! we have a duty to insist on our rights-you wanna be a goody goody and bow to the 'servants' that is your RIGHT not mine!
Mountchoirboy 1 month ago 6
why does it matter if they look at your ID? just show them. it doesnt do anything except tell them who you are. if youve done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, your ID shouldnt need to be a secret.
laluenke 1 month ago
wtf is this bullshit.... didnt learn shit
Hanmin253 1 month ago
really ive been walking home piss drunk and stoped by cops, they say ID ! im like here ya go, they run it and they say have a good night.. One even gave me a ride home XD no shit, they could have charged me with public drunkeness but didnt even give a fuck.
JDK1981 1 month ago
When do I have to show police my ID? maybe you could when they ask for it? or ...you could act like your guilty of something and refuse to... LOL like really they just want to check for warrents, if you dont have one thell be gone in a min or two. let them do there job, so many people bitch they dont do there job, so shut the fuck up give them ID and they will leave. You act like you got something to hide they think you do simple as that.
JDK1981 1 month ago
@JDK1981: I guess some people are not as quick to give up their rights.
Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
@Pafoofnik1 hes doing his job we pay them to do so.
JDK1981 1 month ago
@JDK1981: I never said he wasn't.
I said that some people are not as quick to give up their rights.
Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
This is tupid because we all have the RIGHT to be safe! This is a small price to pay for a little security. If you haven't done anything wrong, you shouldn't have a problem with it. How would you like it if your loved one was raped or killed by a fugitive that "had the right " not to show ID when they looked suspicious to a cop? Then you'd be complaining that they didn't protect you! Get off the idiot train.
voiceovreason42 1 month ago
@voiceovreason42 "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. " ~~ Benjamin Franklin
Joer22784 1 month ago 26
@Joer22784 one of my favorite quotations ever
PriestOfFilm 3 weeks ago
If they think your doing something illegal or did something illegal, they can ask.
EMPIRE0FLIES 1 month ago
but if i have nothing to hide then why would i not consent to a search or handing over my ID unless i was in a rush to get somewhere that is my only question. cause if you got nothng to hid then they can search all the want and still find nothing
klaus121991 1 month ago
@klaus121991: Our rights are not contingent on having nothing to hide.
Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
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Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
Until "U" learn that being a Citizen/Subject makes "U" property of those that "U" claim are in control of "U",
"U" have waivered the rights God gave "U", as a [wo]man , made in his/her image.
The US Constitution is a CONTRACT, made between the States and the Feds, NOT between Man-and-Man
If U do not Claim to be property (that which is proper; belonging to) "Citizen/Subject" of a "State", then it has NOTHING to do with U as a ...."Man", or "[wo]Man"
kldirectv2 1 month ago
@kldirectv2 ...so what rights do i have as a us citizen, to not be subjected to us and state laws? that is the confusing part...i can't just state that the police or feds don't have jurisdiction over me..they'll laugh and arrest me and then i'll be subject to their punishments...so, no matter what, i essence, all humans don't own themselves, because it doesn't matter because the authorities control us...
PREPARE4THEHYPOCRITE 1 month ago
@PREPARE4THEHYPOCRITE They losse there jobs go to jail.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
@kldirectv2 ""U" have waivered the rights God gave "U", as a [wo]man , made in his/her image."
That is an intersting statement -- you do realise that in the bible ( assuming you are christains) you have NO right -- instead you have COMMANDMENTS.
there is no bill of rights in the bible -- but there are 10 commandments
badpanda84 1 week ago
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kldirectv2 1 week ago
@badpanda84 @badpanda84
LOL Real BAD "presumption" ( presume is to take a right from someone in law without their consent)
lol U said Assume, ( which is to LIFT Up , as in jesus assumption to heaven)
But NO , i believe the "Bible is a cute; fun; nice little law book with funny stories,
God is the supreme being of everything ,,( in DOZENS of religions)
kldirectv2 1 week ago
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@badpanda84 Ooh YOUR too Cute lol,,"10" like the "10" Commandments (Law of Moses)...toooo funny.. did You go to Public School?
For in
The Mosaic Law (Moses) is what we are most concerned about in relation to the New Testament believer. (hence christian)
It consists of 365 negative commands and 248 positive for a total of 613 commandments. These may also be divided into three parts or sections (see below)—the moral, the social, and the ceremonial.
kldirectv2 1 week ago
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Age has nothing to do with it,
klatlap 1 month ago
This is a commercial for lawyers lol.
altgeldrarities 1 month ago
i wish you did a uk one
pussyenergydrink 1 month ago
I love how everyone bad mouths cops and knows all the laws and had no problem telling police how to do their job of protecting the good public... I wonder if these same people tell their doctor how to remove an appendix... :/
RcT567 1 month ago
@RcT567 hmmm well maybe its because a doctor is a specialist on medicine and a cop is not a specialist on the law, in most cases you know the law better then some 22 year old cop with repressed anger from being bullied in high school cops are assholes and if they werent always assholes being in their job will make them assholes, they will ford your rights without turning a finger if you let them.
123412312155112 1 month ago
@123412312155112 MAybe cops are always assholes because millions of Dicks such as your self are always being asshole to the cops. you would be a little bit cranky to if "death by gunshot" was a likely scenario in your daily line of work instead of flipping burgers.
superjump01 1 month ago
@superjump01 ya except in my city there isnt much cop killing going on its just a bunch of asshole cops who fuck with you for no reason cops are scumbags they're the kids who got beat up in high school so they extract revenge by becoming an asshole cop
123412312155112 1 month ago
@123412312155112 bitter pants over here
lolololitsrichie 1 month ago
@lolololitsrichie obviously you've never been to court on charges jacked up by asshole cops go ahead and wish me luck im in court on friday on some wack tresspassing charges
123412312155112 1 month ago
@123412312155112 you're right. cause i abide the law. i haven't met an 'asshole cop'. sounds like you're generalizing them with bad experience and bias. don't break the law and there won't be an issue.
lolololitsrichie 1 month ago
Unless you are trying to hide something whats the problem with showing ID if you have it.
klatlap 1 month ago
@klatlap: Exercising our constitutional rights is not contingent on having nothing the hide.
Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
@Pafoofnik1 Maybe it is time you changed your constitution as things have changed just a bit since it was written.
That's the main problem you are more concerned with your own individual rights than the rights of the community to be safe.
klatlap 1 month ago
@klatlap: I see no reason the change the Constitution with regards to identification. If you wish to, then please have at it. You certainly have your work cut out.
I do not see a problem with individual rights. Neither does the Constitution. If you feel that I am somehow 'wrong' because of my beliefs, then please go pound sand.
Pafoofnik1 1 month ago
@klatlap - I hope you are young. I swear if you tell me you are over 16, then you must be a complete idiot ..
AnotherYankee 1 month ago
@AnotherYankee are you implying that 16 isnt so young that your too stupid to know anything
123412312155112 1 month ago
@123412312155112 - I never said anything, but it would make sense for someone your age too not comprehend. Even though man, or even most can or do, but I just hope you are young. Once you grow up, you will see those rights take place in your life. You will see. All of us will confront it at some point.
AnotherYankee 1 month ago
@klatlap beware of those who bring go intentions.
TheGunsoutdoorsshoot 3 weeks ago
do these apply in canada?
ceraleater123 1 month ago
@ceraleater123 no, the Canadian Constitution is suprisingly well written and affords far greater protections than ours here in America. You should read your own Constitution sometime, I found it exeptional.
sagequan 1 month ago
How did I end up here....I'm confused...I need a poptart...
XBloodShotEyeZz 1 month ago 168
@XBloodShotEyeZz if you need a poptart, go watch nyancat
mrcoolguy678910 1 month ago
@XBloodShotEyeZz Yeah I need one too :D
screamonoel 4 weeks ago
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The 14th amendment CLEARLY states that you do NOT have the right to vote unless you wanna take part in crime, here it is in short:
"....the right to vote at any election....is denied....except for participation in rebellion, or other crime...."
Get your facts STRAIGHT citizens of the U.S., you are consenting to becoming a CRIMINAL by taking part in voting.
Here is a much more detailed explanation, copy and paste into URL:
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godwithin060988 2 months ago
i dont get it, why not just show the id, i would rather work with the law then against it
HuntmanC68 2 months ago
@HuntmanC68 It's the principle of the matter. You should never trade your freedoms for security.
EdwardMarshall1982 2 months ago 2
@HuntmanC68 that's your decision, but some people want to protect their rights
masterassassin21 2 months ago
Why should we have to show our ID at all, considering the federal government is doing everything in it's power to stop the states from getting proper documents from illegals.
imnotabotrlyimnot 2 months ago
whats good is that police have found legal ways to get the information they want from citizens even if they have to part the proverbial sea of bullshit that the citizen decides to dish out at them to obtain it. the "i know my rights" line only goes so far. 90% of these idiots dont know their rights and usually end up in jail. sometimes a little cooperation goes a long way. keep up the good job officers!! u have my support!!!
soflo23 2 months ago
Federal law supersedes any local laws. I'm just saying.
threetime1 2 months ago
I know WA or Maryland state if you don't have an ID then can arrest you on sight if they think your under 18.
ZolinSith 2 months ago
@ZolinSith: Have a legal cite behind this law you just made up?
Pafoofnik1 2 months ago
whats the law in virginia?
bassplayer703 2 months ago
You do not need to produce an ID for a police officer unless you were pulled over as the driver of the vehicle. In said case, your license, registration, and proof of insurance will be asked of you. These, you must submit.
If an officer approaches you and asks to see ID, you don't have to produce for them. Just ask them if you're being detained/am I free to go. That's literally all you have to say to them regardless of their questions. If you're free to go, go about your business.
acoti 2 months ago
LOLLOLLOLOLOLLOLLOLLOL... WHAT AN IDIOT
paulpaul351 2 months ago
This "advice" has caused more people to be arrested than its kept from being arrested.
SRPowers2891 2 months ago
@SRPowers2891 yeah i know right, now being on the side walk where i live u dont have to give them a ID, but u do have to ID urself with a name or something so long as ur not driving some form of vehicle
phenoix 2 months ago
Here in the netherlands, you need to show your ID whenever a cop askes you to, even if your just walking your dog and a cop askes for your ID. dont do this and youll be 50 euros lighter
MJ4everTheKing 2 months ago
@MJ4everTheKing yeah but I don't really see the problem. I mean the right to walk freely without ID is not a right that scores high on my list tbh.
philateliceun 2 months ago
@MJ4everTheKing The right to be arrested without bodily harm is something that scores high on my list. The right to do with your own body whatever you want without hurting others scores high on my list. The right to wear whatever I want scores high on my list. I have to show ID atleast 1 time everyday. Fucking Albert Heijn is on a nazi tour, I am 23 and still they ask me for ID for cigs or alcohol every goddamn day. Showing my ID to a cop once a year is nothing.
philateliceun 2 months ago