You are an idiot serial killer. Do you know how many cattle HUMANS send through slaughterhouses? And kill hundreds of thousands of deer for fun and trophy....um - we do not have a wolf problem - we have an arrogant human testosterone teeny weeny peenie problem - that men think they just have to dominate and kill and get out that adolescent spew on beautiful animals that keep the earth in balance, weave the world together for you - and you are too ignorant to know it. REEEEEDNEEEECK is right.
I also live in North Central Idaho and have seen these parasites in action. If the California bloggers love them sooooo much then let them have them. Problem solved. they calll us rednecks but they shop at grocery stores for their meat. I guess the meat fairy brings meat to the store for them to purchase, if they don't see the slaughter house then I guess it must not exist. California has had their head in the sand for so long they'll be late to their own funeral.
@MOUNTAINMAN0616 I say we round up every wolf and turn them loose in Sacramento, Los Angeles and San Diego and see how long it takes for the leftwing moonbats to cry foul. Fucking hypocrites!
I live in North Idaho, the wolves while beautiful, are a clear and present danger. Today at 12:35 in the afternoon my dog was killed just a few feet from my front door with me so close I could hear his little neck crack when the wolf shook him. The blood trail starts 5' 7" inches from my door. Which wolf lover wants to sleep in a tent, with no guns, in my pasture?
You are so young and so damn ignorant. Wolf is part of nature. Why do not you love Wild America? This is not a patriotic attitude of yours. Let wolf establish and grow in numbers. Then we will discuss hunting wolves with sighthounds. Your cause is lost.
This video is pure propaganda. Wolves are not the problem, the problem is inept government officials introducing the wrong species of wolf to the stupid, hillbilly, state of Idaho. Now, savage and barbaric hunters murder these beautiful animals because they are losers.
Livestock protection dogs are highly effective. They proven this during thousands of years of history and they are still do their job in many wolf countries. They protect not only from wolves, but also from bears. Trigger happy freaks of Idaho spread bull shit here. Your potatoes, by the way, not very tasty and potentially toxic. I urge everyone buy a different potatoes or, better yeat, grow your own potatoes.
You are trying hard, but are a looser anyway. The wolf is here to stay. Better obey the law and respect the will of the nation. Whatever you may say, this is you a cocksucker. Go back in your hole and munch your Idaho potatoes.
@subarkin LOL says the tiny fringe group. Wow cares what the tiny fringe wolf cult less then 3100 cry babies wolves are going to be heavily controlled. So grow up and face it. We are going to kill thousands of wolves and their nothing you can do about it.
I am not an ordinary "wolf lover". My point is wolf shoud be a part of ecologically healthy community, as well as elks, moose, bison, fox, mountian lion, etc. If population is high, wolf may be hunted. In fact they should be hunted to keep them wild and cautious enough so they would not steal pets and kill livestock. Hunt wolves with sighthounds and use livestock guarding dogs.
@im1greatman I see you have the Flag of Patriot's as your avatar. Don't tread on me! I am wrong? How exactly am I wrong? I guarantee you, I am not wrong.
@Rockholm66 Yes, it's a Gadsden flag for those that don't know. My apologies for being so forward before. All I ask is that you do a little research on that breed of dog and perhaps a breed known as the Kangal Dog. They may help those that need it.
You do not need to save elks. Before white settlers came, there were planty of wolves and elks. YOu messed up everything and now you a posing as a savior of elks. Bull shit.
@subarkin hhmmm you want to make a difference then move out of your house or apptment and go live in a box that way your not part of the problem of expanding into their habbitat. oh but wait your probably not willing to make that kind of stand are you. so if your not going to make a commited stand that can be respected even though it would be laughed at, yet respected then shut up cause your the one full of bull shit. and the fact you were born makes you part of the problem as well.
@subarkin We wouldn't have to if you cocksuckers didn't illeagally release wolves in my state. Why don't you educate yourself on this subject before posting your ignorance?
@subarkin Psssst...elk --- single or plural...is still elk......lol......and yes, we are saving all wildlife...our livestock and pets.....not just the 'elks" Deal with it!
So many wolf lovers around why doesn't Idaho and Montana think of an Ecotourism project? Seriously.As tour guides, wolf hunters/ex hunters, etc. can show den sites, Let the wildlife lovers shoot"photos", explain to touristic wolf lovers what they are witnessing with there own eyes.I personally know people, many who would cherish the chance to fly a cheap domestic fight for this opportunity.think this will benefit everyone and the dreaded wolf. the idea is big in many third world countries now.
@italpe1 Wolves have destroyed Idaho's economy.....Out of state hunters helped to support this state...the 10 wolf viewer we do attract HARDLY makes up for that.....there is also an offer to come stay the night in Idaho with the wolves...Will pay you $150.00.....No weapons...No tent...No Vehicle to hide in....We will drop u off and come pick you up.........area of OUR choice around Pierce Idaho....No Takers Yet!!.....Ha!
Only the losers in Idaho blame their failures on the wolves. It is absurd, in California if something goes wrong we do not blame it on the bears or the coyotes. To do so would be ludicrous.
The people who blame their problems on these beautiful creatures would be failures in any state they lived in, they use the Wolf as an excuse for their own misery that they have brought upon themselves by being mindless Hillbillies.
@FroggieTheNaziFrog Yes, the people who murder wolves in Idaho are losers. There are so many progressive and humane solutions to the ' so-called' wolf problem in Idaho.
Yes, California is a superior state to Idaho. Imagine that Idaho's claim is fame is the potato, how pathetic.These hillbillies should take up more civilized activities like fishing or boating instead of the savagery of murdering defenseless animals.
@FroggieTheNaziFrog Idaho and California are differents states, with economies based on different things, comparing the two is "absurd" and "mindless". The economy of Idaho is based on agriculture and livestock, so if something kills livestock, it's pretty safe to say it damages the economy.
Oh God they got us on this one. If everyone else has a say in what Idaho does, then I think that Idaho shoud fund the introduction of Wolves and Grizzlies to Times Square. It must be tough for all these city folk to see us getting to have all the fun with predators and they can only see them on youtube from 2,000 miles away. As a plus, I bet rent in the city would go down.
People have the real overpopulation problem, but many (like this guy) are too full of themselves to admit it.
There are 75 MILLION more people on the Earth each year (global net gain) vs. scant thousands of "problem" wolves. It's callous to claim that wolves are the overcrowded species. That angle mostly comes from trophy hunters who are stuck in an 1800s frontier mindset.
Also, the respect people show for domestic DOGS is ironic, considering their heritage in wolves, coyotes, etc.
Oh Mother Marry the Stats scream somethin FOUL sweet cheeks! the Wolf has reached nearly 2,000 but the Elk number looks far beyond that yet all the websites are giving some slight and some dramatically different numbers on elk population including the .gov pages. Are both sides playing theater acting or what?
You guys tell us to kill Wolves to save Elk yet you are still going to kill Elk. Why we ask, because according to you they need to be managed but also according to you, their numbers are too low. Make up your mind. Oh and here's a little somthing you guys probly dont know, when a Wolf kills its prey, if it doesnt eat it. Something else will
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Oh here we go, yet another poser claiming to be a researcher...what are you 15? I live with these freaking mutts you fool and I somehow doubt you've ever even seen a live one. So please, don't try to peddle your bs on me, the next thing you'll be trying to claim is that they only kill the sick and the weak.
Yeah, lets feed the ravens, they need lots of help. These wolves are the most wasteful predator to walk the landscape, there are no excuses to support that.
@Eaglecreekbrewer Most wasteful? The most wasteful are sport hunters that are humans. Ravens arent the only one's who eat off a Wolfs prey, I should have expected someone that only kills them to not know that.
PS. Mutts are dogs with more then one breed of dog in them, use your terms correctly.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually you are wrong, actually it is a violation of law to waste game pal. Hunters have not only funded, but managed our wildlife to bring it back from the brink over 90 years ago. And 'sport hunting'? what exactly is that? It couldn't be predator management now could it?
@Eaglecreekbrewer You are a hunter and you dont know what sport hunting is. That's pretty sad. Actually alot of adults do, and its an anime, that I like to edit with, just like adults would watch Adult Swim shows or any show. You kill the Wolf, just because you kill it doesnt mean you know anything about it.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually yes, I do know what it is, I already explained it to you. Human are manageable in a non lethal way, the only predator that is. As such we have used regulated hunting as a tool of predator management. I am sure that probably goes clear over your head and your shallow thought processes.
Call your cartoons what you like, a different name doesn't change that fact, nor does it show you mature, in fact, just the opposite
@Eaglecreekbrewer So now the people that created it are immature. Also those "cartoons" I watch are based off morals and such. Its clear to me you dont know what all the hunters out there do. And you know, some anime like Clannad are all about morals and reality same with anime like Lucky Star-an anime that only gives out information. Now are you going to say artists are immature fools too?
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So, to answer my question....you are an emotionally driven person with no real wildlife experience beyond what you learn from your cartoons.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So Angelo, mr. adult wolf expert, why don't you enlighten us on just exactly how many wild wolves you have seen in person.
What is your background in wildlife ecology and management?
Or is it just animal worship that is based on emotional beliefs that are far to willing to overlook any facts that prove your beliefs completely incorrect?
@Eaglecreekbrewer First off im female and it isnt Angelo. And you didnt even give me a chance to answer. Learn from cartoons you got to be kidding me!?The only time I ever watched that anime I edit with "Wolfs Rain" was when I was 11. I've learned from years of research, Im not the one who thinks that because you kill it you know everything about it. Another hunter who presumes, atleast you aren't as bad as TheFreeCoyote who told me he only got his information from youtube videos.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo LOL, the free coyote lives right in the guts of wolf country sweetheart. He has forgotten more about wolves that you're ever going to know.
And I am sorry if I called you a child, but seriously, you can expect that when you come on here and show such a lck of knowledge and maturity. You have yet to make one post that isn't based on emotional based bs. You have proven you have NO understanding of wildlife management or for that matter, nature in general.
@Eaglecreekbrewer Actually it happens before I say anything that has to do with emotion, in truth it didnt happen everytime. My veiws aren't based off emotion, because I know you guys dont give a fuck that you take an innocent life. And I know you guys wont stop, I prefer to give information or helpful tips to the idiots here. And take this thought in before you say save the Elk. Human poulation ranges from 6.9Billion to 8Billion, we have homeless people, starving people, poverty, slavery
@Eaglecreekbrewer This is exactly what I said earlier you hunters insult us and call us children and naturally presume we have no clue what we are talking about and emotionally driven just because we are willing to stand up for a species. You dont see most of us doing that to you for wanting to protect the Elk but then again you still kill the Elk even though you guys rant about saving them.
@oOoDancing And so I gave you the opportunity to list your personal experience, contact with wolves and education in wildlife ecology and management. I take it from your obvious ignoring of those questions, I painted you correctly the first time.
Your age doesn't necessarily exempt you from being a child, and your actions haven't managed to do that either. There are plenty of pro wolf people I have never labeled a child, if you find that every time, that says more about you than anyone
@Eaglecreekbrewer and a ton of other bs, yet you sit here on a computer worried about Elk. Me? I already donate to that stuff, I try to be an activist in all feilds,
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Do you even have the most basic concept of wildlife management you foolish little child, obviously not. There is a vast difference between a manageable and functional one and an unmanageable and dysfunctional one. Please, try and graduate middle school before you try to come out and play with the adults
@Eaglecreekbrewer And I am not a child, it amazes me that whenever someone speaks out agaisnt a hutners. The hunter immediatly insults them, and calls them a child. Everytime
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Oh well, excuse me, I guess I find it interesting that an adult would have a page full of cartoons.......
Your knowledge level of wolves is obviously that of a sub adult with little to no real understanding or knowledge of these animals. Once again, I seriously doubt you've ever even seen one, yet will still claim to be another 'expert'. I have seen so many of your type come and go, I lost track long ago. Your lord of nature is just a disease ridden varmint, nothing more.
@Eaglecreekbrewer If shows mark someone's age, makes me wonder am I allowed to watch movies from my childhood and still be an adult, or enjoy any show
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually the world of animation defines one of their inability to comprehend reality, Thus the need to get wrapped up in formats that support that delusion. It is a healthy thing in kids, not so much so in adults.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo A annual rate or 25 - 30% rivals rabbits there boi. Once again please learn something before exposing what an ignoramus you really are. I see you are another one of those wolf worshipers who has no real knowledge of these animals, just the propaganda that has been fed to you.
wolves are taking over North Idaho, My hunting partner and I were out this elk season in one of our spots, we bugled on a ridge point and got a wolf to answer us it's howl echoed through the canyon and was one of the creepiest things ive ever heard. We did'nt hear an elk bugle the rest of the day. It's sad to say but with the way they breed and how they kill elk and deer for fun the future of our elk hurds and hunting will be no more.
That being said, if all of you decide to boycott potatoes, that's probably not a bad idea. I'll bet you can't though. Everybody loves McDonalds and Burger King french fries. I'll bet that's the first thing that you and your fat kids dive into as you pull out of the drive-through.
To anybody who disagrees with what this fellow says in his video, I'm happy for you. We have a Constitution that actually allows you to have an opinion and you should be thankful for that. I respect your right to have an opinion as well as your right to have a livelihood and live in a place of your choosing. Me and my fellow Idahoans have the EXACT same rights that you do so please respect us as well. We don't, let me repeat that, DON"T want the wolves here.
Animal rights activists are nothing more than "human haters"! I have been saying this for a long time: Animal Rights activists are not animal lovers; NO, they are actually human haters!! They suffer from a mental disorder called "Reaction Formation" - check out my channel to see the link to the book on Google that explains this violent, abnormal mental illness that they have...
@Scrap5000, that is about the same way I consider them. When you have crackpots like Ashley Judd on one hand advocating for wolves, but on the other hand she supports the murder of innocent unborn human babies, something drastically skewed in her thinking is to be presumed.
@tncdel Yes! Not to mention how all "A.R. Rights" indivuduals always wish cancer on everyone wo hunt, fish & trap (and who therefore can also be called "the only people who fund wildlife programs through their tax money and license fees"), then you can start to see just how insane the people are.
Dig deeper and all of these "AR" people eventually tell you that humans are evil and all eserve to die slow & horrible deaths. It's quite concerning.
hunting is the true economic backbone of Idaho. wolves kill elk and deer so much that the hunting economy of ID is suffering. people are going elsewhere to spend money. what to do now? move to san francisco...they don't allow wolf hunting there. I'll be in Northern ID with my Browning 7mag putting down White Fang
These hunters are useto the 1,000 herd crap they made after they killed all the wolves, and killed or removed the Shoshone - only 100 years ago. KEEP BOYCOTTING IDAHO! STOP THE MOREmans!!!!!!!!!! They keep crying cause they gotta learn how to hunt!
These hunters are useto the 1,000 herd crap they made after they killed all the wolves, and killed or removed the Shoshone - only 100 years ago. KEEP BOYCOTTING IDAHO! STOP THE MOREmans!!!!!!!!!!
Josh, Omg... i'm a veggie with egg whites only and now i can't eat my potato, carrot, lettuce, Quiché because i hav to sav da wolfies and boycott idaho potatoes. Now what? Sincerely, Ashley Judd, remember to kill baby humans and save baby wolfz.
...say is completely a lie. From the Biologists, experts and others I network with, and my experience, we find comments from hunting organizations and hunters to be absolutely fabricated on Wolves!
...How do I know this guy is a lier in his statements? Firstly; he has no answer to any of his statements. He is merely stating something but giving no meaning to it. You can't have a cause without an effect, and that is what this gentleman is doing. Secondly; I am a Biologist who works with predator behaviors. I have on the field experience. Even though this guy is stating comments without any backup to them, I know he relies his views from hunting organizations, and I know what they...
...of Elk population decline in the few areas that their populations have declined, but it is human harvest. This guy has NO credentials in anything he is saying, he is mearly speaking out of his ass with no viable proof. Buddy: Why not go to the websites of the organizations I gave you and get the story with the Biologists who work on the field with Wolves? Why not get the straight answer from local Biologists if you don't trust the organizational ones?...
...This guy is nothing more than your typical redneck trying to push away others who don't believe in his belief and persuading that his beliefs are the correct ones even though he has no facts on his statements, and his resources he relies on come from organizations who benefit from the elimination of Wolves, like the Bear Blog. Even the closest hunting organization to hunters, the Fish and Game, came out with a article on July 31st stating that Wolves are not the cause of...
This is another hunter fabricating his views to gather more support for his lobbiest purpose. He stated that the facts are not just from him, but did not give any resources. The resources he follows are from that of hunting organizations. Why not follow resources from the Fish and Wildlife, National Wildlife Federation, World Wildlife Fund, IFAW, DOF, Nature Conservancy, National Geographic Explorer or any of the other environmental groups who do on the field work related to Wolves?
its not RMEF numbers it is pretenders of wildlife and western conspiracy that are lying about the elk herd numbers the pres of RMEFhas told them to quit lying to the press claiming there are more then there actually is. if you google up elk numbers in yellowstone you will see a pdf link from rmef read it!! I believe they were using the same biologists??
DUMBASS HILLJACK GO CHOKE ON A POTATO. WOLVES ARE PREDITORS, DUH. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO CONTROL WHAT IS GOING ON. IT MAY TAKE SOME MONEY, BUT THE A HOLES YOU SUPPORT WANT THAT IN THEIR POCKETS INSTEAD. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR INBRED ASS AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, YEE HAW!!!!! (you post garbage like this, you deserve my comment)
@mrbeate Wolves were NEVER in danger, geezus, get some facts. Two your pests left the park and destroyed Idaho and Montana's elk herds, not to mention the ones in YS. Three they are spreading disease and putting real endangered species in further risk. Do you have any facts or just more emotionally based bullshit. You people who have no real knowledge of either the situation or real information about wolves do little service to any wildlife, including the wolves.
@carnypimp Heya moron, they never needed introduced, that's why they are listed as "non essential, experimental" You retards really need to get a few facts.
@Eaglecreekbrewer Really you are a damn liar. I watched a documentry about how healthy the Buffalo are and how the Beaver numbers have went up since the Wolves where put in Yellow Stone. It is in the history book all of North America had Gray Wolves before they where all ordered killed. I think you rednecks just love to make shit up!
@carnypimp Oh brother, you read it in a book huh? The buffalo are in decline, the beavers were never doing bad, the elk and moose are all but gone. Wrong wolf fool, this is not the native wolf. Sadly, you drink up bad information and want to claim it as fact. And times have changed, we no longer live in a pre columbian ecosystem, I know that's hard for an idiot to understand, but it is in fact, a fact
@Eaglecreekbrewer I dont even no why im so shitty. I just fear that you people want all wolves dead and I hope only the population is thinned and not whiped out!
Here in NC the taste of Idaho potatoes is even sweeter now, I support my friends in Idaho. I have a good friend in Idaho City, his son works on a ranch up in Cascade, he killed a wolf this past Fall, it seemed to have a taste for young calves. The wolves seem to be really tough on the elk in unit 36 where we used to hunt all the time.
LOL! Boycotting potatoes now? Well, I agree with you. Wolves are overpopulated, and need to be trimmed down a bit. Not that I want them to be totally wiped out, but just trimmed down. But... Why potatoes? .... Makes no fucking sense.... That's sad.
We heard that the number of Wolves is more like 3000. In Jackson Hole there are packs showing up every day that UFWS have no idea where they came from. Numbers don't mean anything, this thing is running amuck. Idaho is getting hit the worst. I just bought all the Potatoe Chips in town let those Pot Smoking Wolf Luvr's get the munchies now.... they bring me a Daed Wolf I'll give'em a bag of chips.....got to go there's one at the door now.
They are arrogant, narcissistic and put out information that is absurd all in hopes of people thinking they have a real grasp on the situation. They have anything but. What they have done is lie, cheat, steal, cover up and ignore the truth, reality, science and the well being of both the environment and humanity.
You are correct in one thing, no one knows exactly how many wolves there are. Through negligence, corruption, bad science and bad legislation, this whole situation was allowed to get completely out of hand.
You will notice, I used "best accurate estimate" and based that number off of information gleaned from many sources.
When the gov't or some expert gives you a hard number like 843, you already know that number is probably wrong. 843, not 850, but exactly 843. They must have an all seeing eye
Prove them wrong, the reality proves them wrong, they'll admit they are wrong, even the guys you love to hide behind will admit they are wrong.
You're going to find out asking the specific questions, will get you a very slow response. Hmmmmm.....I wonder why.
Be careful what you want to stand behind Tim. You need to think a few more levels down before you get indignant about that number. It could work against you, lol.
David Mech under oath in a federal court in Montana last fall testified to the fact that the real number of wolves in the West was at least 3000. And would estimate all state populations numbers to be double what the current numbers show.
So, Tim. I guess that is right from the horses mouth.
Here is a hard fact for you Tim. Humans can hunt, AND grow herds at the same time. Wolves can not, their impact on an elk herd is exactly the opposite if humans impact. I've already explained this to you before, have you learned nothing.
@Eaglecreekbrewer, Man's total impact on wildlife is negative. Look up "overfishing" and study the plight of game in Africa and Asia.
Remember that bison were almost wiped out in America by the same ilk that wants to get rid of wolves. The idea that people are beneficial to wildlife is a lie in full context. We have totally changed the character of the land and driven out natural predators, which need far more acreage than herbivores like elk, moose and deer. That's the true context.
Really? So you are not going to be happy until we run out of elk and the wolves starve? That's ridiculous and an ignorant attitude to have. It will happen, eventually, but why in the hell would we want to wait until that point to start addressing the problem. The Banff herd, The YS herd, The Lolo herd and the Clearwater herd and many others are all headed to this situation, they are just moving into areas that were less affected before and until those collapse too they will grow .
Tim, our elk numbers are down, way down, and in some areas they don't think they'll be able to bring them back. You have to sort out the lies from the facts and when something is proven false, like RMEF's estimated elk numbers that the pro wolf crowd clings to, you have to let it go. Smiths numbers for YS are pure fantasy, I wonder how long they are being stated as factual though?
No tim, we are not exaggerating that. I am sorry man, but the elk are suffering big time, and on a level that hunters could never inflict. And don't get indignant about me not answering questions. You haven't haven't answered any of mine.
@Eaglecreekbrewer Oh yes, you say Elk populations are so low, but before you blame the wolves get your buddies to stop hunting them this Elk hunting season.
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So, the fact that we have hunted them for over 80 years and grew the elk herds at the same time must have been a freak accident of nature. Once again you simple minded fool, you have no idea of any facts, nature or wildlife management. Perhaps you should consider that they were talking to you personally when they said "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt"
@Eaglecreekbrewer In the early 1900's we hunted the Wolves out of every state except 3. Also Wolves are not the only species killing Elk. Ive been a researcher and have study Wolves for many years. Just because you know how to kill a Wolf doesnt mean you know anything about them or their lifestyles
They are eating the last of the elk in a zone and they are moving on to the next, we are seeing huge declines in ALL of our elk herd Tim. They are spreading into other states, they are killing other animals out side of elk. They have been documented killing grizzly's for crying out loud. it will take a complete collapse of our ecosystem for the wolves to collapse. That's exactly what they seen in Russia, Canada and Alaska.
F&G has to use the "official" number, even they admit it's higher if you talk to them, call them Tim. The 843 official number is the one they are required to use as per the parameters of the ESA and how they count them. They can only use that number for their management plans, it's more politics than wildlife management.
Tim, they started in the Lolo, that herd is all but wiped out, they have spread in a circular patten form the introduction site. Our elk herds are declining in the same pattern. We now have isolated elk extinctions within the Lolo and Clearwater zones. These were two of the largest herds in Idaho pre introduction. the only new player is the wolf. they hate hate hate to admit it is the wolves but guess what, it is. The wolves move on, the elk just decline.
Tim, go look at how they are required to count them, dammit man, use some common sense and get a few fats. They can not count a wolf unless it can be proven it wasn't already counted, and they can use no estimates as they do with all other animals. It is skewed to show a much lower number. If you had any idea of the terrain in Idaho or the difficulty in getting a verified count you could see the fallacy. It's just another political ploy to keep the numbers from showing factual information.
What exactly are you going to have to see happen before you step back and see you have been fed a line of BS?
Go study what happened in Banff, look deeper into YS and quit listening to Smith. He's no better than DoW the only thing he is interested in is a lifetime job on the taxpayers dime. Why didn't they count the elk there Tim? And given that, how did he come up with a number higher than last year when its evident it isnt? He pulled it out of his ass that's how. He is covering up the decline
843? Are you kidding me Tim. The best accurate estimate is over 1600 Tim. If you knew how they actually counted wolves you could see the fallacy in that number.
But, it is also proven that wolves cause isolated extinctions in herds. They seen it in Russia, Canada and Alaska. And we are now seeing it in Idaho. When YS runs out of elk, are you going to believe me then?
That herd is destine for collapse, the ave age of the elk there is now 8, with few young cows and calves.
You know, it's has a lot in common with Nazi Germany. Hitler had the masses on his side in the beginning too. Of course he used lies, propaganda and emotion to win over the masses. Well, until the facts started coming out and people woke up.
The challenge is on the anti's side to try and keep the truth hidden, the propaganda rolling. It is a challenge you are currently slipping in, our side is gaining momentum, we have the truth, and people are waking up. We will win simply because of that.
Are you seriously going to claim that DoW doesn't use pure propaganda?
Come on Tim, answer that question......
No one loves presenting and eating up pure unadulterated propaganda like the environmental groups you love to stand behind. I have swayed more pro wolf people to my side than you are ever going to sway the other way. You know why Tim?
Because I have the facts and the truth on MY side.
LOL, Tim, Dudette if you really think I don't know the weights of the wolves here, you're a true idiot. I play with you, I feed you crap half the time and you are my mushroom, you are already in the dark so it isn't hard to make that happen. But, like I said, you can not prove it wrong either. When I put something in a vid, it is solid, no bsing about it.
The fact you can not let that one issue go when I have presented you with so many other questions only shows you true lack of knowledge.
You know Tim, it's to bad you never came about these manners long ago. I don't mind the simple name calling you resort to, I don't even mind knowing that you'll never be willing to see the truth. But that hatred you possess down in side of you, your threats, wishes of death on people you don't even know, your hate for both country and fellow humans was your undoing as far as ever getting any respect or ever gaining any relevance. Keeo sending you money to DoW, they have to make a hummer pmt.
You know Tim, my current wolf vid isn't biased either, the information came from a multitude of sites, including pro wolf sites. It has picture proof to back up the facts. It pisses off the true wolf propagandists but they know they can't debunk it. It contains simple truths and facts. Sorry if the lying bastards don't like it, but that doesn't make it biased. The next one will be even more under their skin. lol
You know Tim, and this is the truth. I wasn't in the beginning. I still respect people that have real interest in the facts. I still don't hate wolves, these wolves just don't belong here, they were introduced under false pretenses and as I seen the games DoW and the wolf "biologists" were playing and continue to do so, they lost any support I had for the whole issue. They have no reason and no honor, they violated every agreement they made and they ignored the risks.
You're just going to have to wait for the movie TT. They will all be sourced in my next video. Sadly, your past behaviors, threats, and censorship have you blocked from my channels and thus commenting. I guess I don't have to worry about it being spammed up with your BS. the real truth is out the TT. Like I said a court case is actually little PROOF of anything except what was presented in one specific case, perhaps that's why they have a tendency to get over turned.
This from one of your unbiased experts, you prove my point exactly. His science is skewed, he just wants it shouted through.
The fact is, wolves were never endangered, that's just another lie. They were NEVER in danger of extinction. And eventually all of that becomes moot if in fact the truth is revealed, of which it is. Perhaps DoW is going to survive jumping the gun and introducing a public health risk, or perhaps it will be their undoing.
How about the federal gov't and the USFWS Tim. The subspecies issue was defined a long time ago. Again, it is only your lack of knowledge about the issue as a whole and the importance and parameters of subspecies that leads you to want to minimize it.
Really? You are going to try and discredit the Russian research? The most in depth modern science conducted on wolves in the last 100 years. LOL, get real Tim. Or the Canadian research? ROFL, good luck. And who's information are you supposedly going to use to debunk it, the guys that have been proven to be liars. Geezus Tim, I bet you think Obama is telling the truth too. How freaking gullible are you. I always said you were a hateful pos, but I never thought you were truly stupid.
And I have debated your so called experts Tim, they have done anything but crushed me. they won't answer that question directly either. Then they get real skittish when you start asking the other questions. They lie Tim, simple as that. And your dumb enough to believe them or even defend them.
Go ask Bangs and Smith the questions I gave you, see what they tell you. Bangs lied about the Russian information for years right up until it was proven it was given to him. He reminds me of Nancy Palosi.
I don't discredit them Tim, the real wolf biologists do. They are a laughing stock among real experts Tim. Go ask them those questions Tim, you see what they say. By not doing it only proves to everyone you have no interest in the facts, which is what makes you meaningless. I gave you the questions, how simple can I make it for you?
You are an idiot serial killer. Do you know how many cattle HUMANS send through slaughterhouses? And kill hundreds of thousands of deer for fun and trophy....um - we do not have a wolf problem - we have an arrogant human testosterone teeny weeny peenie problem - that men think they just have to dominate and kill and get out that adolescent spew on beautiful animals that keep the earth in balance, weave the world together for you - and you are too ignorant to know it. REEEEEDNEEEECK is right.
Madravenspeak 1 week ago
Lets ban wolf hunting and watch as kids start die due overpopulation of the wolves like in the eastern europe
redneck96100 1 month ago
@redneck96100 No, I prefer the dead wolf approach. One wolf carcass will feed quite a few coyotes.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 But serious overpopulation might teach something to wolfaboos. (especially if it would affect their lives in a bit negative way)
redneck96100 1 month ago
I also live in North Central Idaho and have seen these parasites in action. If the California bloggers love them sooooo much then let them have them. Problem solved. they calll us rednecks but they shop at grocery stores for their meat. I guess the meat fairy brings meat to the store for them to purchase, if they don't see the slaughter house then I guess it must not exist. California has had their head in the sand for so long they'll be late to their own funeral.
MOUNTAINMAN0616 2 months ago
@MOUNTAINMAN0616 I say we round up every wolf and turn them loose in Sacramento, Los Angeles and San Diego and see how long it takes for the leftwing moonbats to cry foul. Fucking hypocrites!
ruj1970 2 months ago
@ruj1970
I say we round up all the uneducated, immoral rednecks and send them to Idaho.
Wait, too late.
jimmyamanita 1 month ago
@jimmyamanita I have a masters degree and have a high level of morals. How about yourself?
ruj1970 1 month ago
I live in North Idaho, the wolves while beautiful, are a clear and present danger. Today at 12:35 in the afternoon my dog was killed just a few feet from my front door with me so close I could hear his little neck crack when the wolf shook him. The blood trail starts 5' 7" inches from my door. Which wolf lover wants to sleep in a tent, with no guns, in my pasture?
1thebird1 2 months ago
This video was made by a mindless Hillbilly, listen to him twang as he speaks!
FroggieTheNaziFrog 2 months ago
Damm, and I liked those potatoes......guess I will just have to EAT TWICE AS MANY!
highcountryhal 2 months ago
You and your Governor will eat your potatoes... alone.
subarkin 2 months ago
You are so young and so damn ignorant. Wolf is part of nature. Why do not you love Wild America? This is not a patriotic attitude of yours. Let wolf establish and grow in numbers. Then we will discuss hunting wolves with sighthounds. Your cause is lost.
subarkin 2 months ago
What a great video. Puts the humor in all of this. Hope the wolf hunt starts soon in Wyoming, so we can responsibly manage wolves.
jones2069 2 months ago
This video is pure propaganda. Wolves are not the problem, the problem is inept government officials introducing the wrong species of wolf to the stupid, hillbilly, state of Idaho. Now, savage and barbaric hunters murder these beautiful animals because they are losers.
villanovakid84 2 months ago
Livestock protection dogs are highly effective. They proven this during thousands of years of history and they are still do their job in many wolf countries. They protect not only from wolves, but also from bears. Trigger happy freaks of Idaho spread bull shit here. Your potatoes, by the way, not very tasty and potentially toxic. I urge everyone buy a different potatoes or, better yeat, grow your own potatoes.
subarkin 2 months ago
Better take your Jewelry off freak Shows!!!...Idaho is the GEM State!!!....lol.....ROCK ON IDAHO!
brandy19588 2 months ago
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brandy19588 2 months ago
Sweet!
Rockholm sent me...
MrAnimalControl 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Good work man!
Rockholm66 2 months ago
Good work man!
Rockholm66 2 months ago
You are trying hard, but are a looser anyway. The wolf is here to stay. Better obey the law and respect the will of the nation. Whatever you may say, this is you a cocksucker. Go back in your hole and munch your Idaho potatoes.
subarkin 2 months ago
@subarkin
I love when you lunatics write your vile and disgusting comments. When I share Josh's video, the world see's you as a evil scum bag, and we win.
Rockholm66 2 months ago
@subarkin LOL says the tiny fringe group. Wow cares what the tiny fringe wolf cult less then 3100 cry babies wolves are going to be heavily controlled. So grow up and face it. We are going to kill thousands of wolves and their nothing you can do about it.
BruceH59 2 months ago
I am not an ordinary "wolf lover". My point is wolf shoud be a part of ecologically healthy community, as well as elks, moose, bison, fox, mountian lion, etc. If population is high, wolf may be hunted. In fact they should be hunted to keep them wild and cautious enough so they would not steal pets and kill livestock. Hunt wolves with sighthounds and use livestock guarding dogs.
subarkin 2 months ago
@subarkin Guard dogs have been "Proven" ineffective. The become wolf scat.
Rockholm66 2 months ago
@Rockholm66 Wrong, you're just picking the wrong dog. Research the Caucasian Mountain Dog.
im1greatman 2 months ago
@im1greatman I see you have the Flag of Patriot's as your avatar. Don't tread on me! I am wrong? How exactly am I wrong? I guarantee you, I am not wrong.
Rockholm66 2 months ago
@Rockholm66 Yes, it's a Gadsden flag for those that don't know. My apologies for being so forward before. All I ask is that you do a little research on that breed of dog and perhaps a breed known as the Kangal Dog. They may help those that need it.
im1greatman 2 months ago
You do not need to save elks. Before white settlers came, there were planty of wolves and elks. YOu messed up everything and now you a posing as a savior of elks. Bull shit.
subarkin 3 months ago
@subarkin hhmmm you want to make a difference then move out of your house or apptment and go live in a box that way your not part of the problem of expanding into their habbitat. oh but wait your probably not willing to make that kind of stand are you. so if your not going to make a commited stand that can be respected even though it would be laughed at, yet respected then shut up cause your the one full of bull shit. and the fact you were born makes you part of the problem as well.
MayhemMikeS 2 months ago
@subarkin We wouldn't have to if you cocksuckers didn't illeagally release wolves in my state. Why don't you educate yourself on this subject before posting your ignorance?
ruj1970 2 months ago
@subarkin Psssst...elk --- single or plural...is still elk......lol......and yes, we are saving all wildlife...our livestock and pets.....not just the 'elks" Deal with it!
brandy19588 2 months ago
The wolf hunt is open in Idaho and Montana. Come buy a few tags and kill a few wolves like I did. Save 100 elk, kill a wolf.
ruj1970 3 months ago 2
@ruj1970 That's right! Shoot, trap, snare, or whatever you have to do, to save our elk, moose, and deer.
Rockholm66 2 months ago
@Rockholm66 Damn straight Rockholm! The wolf hunt is open and going strong! Smoke a pack a day!!
ruj1970 2 months ago
You are an Idaho potato you redneck loser!
MuttleeCrew 3 months ago
So many wolf lovers around why doesn't Idaho and Montana think of an Ecotourism project? Seriously.As tour guides, wolf hunters/ex hunters, etc. can show den sites, Let the wildlife lovers shoot"photos", explain to touristic wolf lovers what they are witnessing with there own eyes.I personally know people, many who would cherish the chance to fly a cheap domestic fight for this opportunity.think this will benefit everyone and the dreaded wolf. the idea is big in many third world countries now.
italpe1 3 months ago
@italpe1 Wolves have destroyed Idaho's economy.....Out of state hunters helped to support this state...the 10 wolf viewer we do attract HARDLY makes up for that.....there is also an offer to come stay the night in Idaho with the wolves...Will pay you $150.00.....No weapons...No tent...No Vehicle to hide in....We will drop u off and come pick you up.........area of OUR choice around Pierce Idaho....No Takers Yet!!.....Ha!
brandy19588 2 months ago
@brandy19588 If wolves have destroyed Idaho's economy, then you should move to another state that is more prosperous than Idaho.
villanovakid84 2 months ago
@villanovakid84
Only the losers in Idaho blame their failures on the wolves. It is absurd, in California if something goes wrong we do not blame it on the bears or the coyotes. To do so would be ludicrous.
The people who blame their problems on these beautiful creatures would be failures in any state they lived in, they use the Wolf as an excuse for their own misery that they have brought upon themselves by being mindless Hillbillies.
FroggieTheNaziFrog 2 months ago
@FroggieTheNaziFrog Yes, the people who murder wolves in Idaho are losers. There are so many progressive and humane solutions to the ' so-called' wolf problem in Idaho.
Yes, California is a superior state to Idaho. Imagine that Idaho's claim is fame is the potato, how pathetic.These hillbillies should take up more civilized activities like fishing or boating instead of the savagery of murdering defenseless animals.
villanovakid84 2 months ago
@FroggieTheNaziFrog Idaho and California are differents states, with economies based on different things, comparing the two is "absurd" and "mindless". The economy of Idaho is based on agriculture and livestock, so if something kills livestock, it's pretty safe to say it damages the economy.
bannockpeak1098 2 months ago
I will not eat Idaho potatoes, but I will double my contributions is support of wolf in the wild.
subarkin 3 months ago
wolf and Idaho potatoes go great together. I like mine well done.
sirparry1 3 months ago
I will shoot as many wolves as I can...please don't eat our potatoes...we don't care. Sure kill babies and save the wolves...stupid libs.
zgomer1 6 months ago
Well said and done bud. They are destroying our game. What will they do abhor Montana and Wyoming? Wolfs....smoke a pack a day
idahocountryboy50 6 months ago
Your a dumb hick speciest! Congrats loser.
CALI714GS 7 months ago
Oh God they got us on this one. If everyone else has a say in what Idaho does, then I think that Idaho shoud fund the introduction of Wolves and Grizzlies to Times Square. It must be tough for all these city folk to see us getting to have all the fun with predators and they can only see them on youtube from 2,000 miles away. As a plus, I bet rent in the city would go down.
CarabelloJ 8 months ago 4
It's come down to this, people only know us for fries. Not like we invented the T.V. or the first Nuclear power plant.
ThatHaloGuy117 9 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 tell me about I get called a hick cause i live in North Idaho
Longhornsfan52 8 months ago
@Longhornsfan52 I hear a lot of hippies live up there. Must suck for you, although you guys get the only theme-park in the state.
ThatHaloGuy117 8 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 its pretty awesome cvause usually all those rich dicks in southern idaho get everything
Longhornsfan52 7 months ago
@Longhornsfan52 That's only in Sun Valley and every single town next to it.
ThatHaloGuy117 7 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Yeah we know allllll about Silverwood theme park...a 130 lb wolf was killed there 2 weeks ago!!
brandy19588 2 months ago
two things I really like-Idaho potatoes and dead wolves
sirparry1 10 months ago
People have the real overpopulation problem, but many (like this guy) are too full of themselves to admit it.
There are 75 MILLION more people on the Earth each year (global net gain) vs. scant thousands of "problem" wolves. It's callous to claim that wolves are the overcrowded species. That angle mostly comes from trophy hunters who are stuck in an 1800s frontier mindset.
Also, the respect people show for domestic DOGS is ironic, considering their heritage in wolves, coyotes, etc.
Antithropocentric 10 months ago
Oh Mother Marry the Stats scream somethin FOUL sweet cheeks! the Wolf has reached nearly 2,000 but the Elk number looks far beyond that yet all the websites are giving some slight and some dramatically different numbers on elk population including the .gov pages. Are both sides playing theater acting or what?
monolithsapphire 10 months ago
just so the idiots know potatoes are not even idaho number one agricultural export.
aidensflame 10 months ago
Oh no! Not the taters!!!
Idaho278 1 year ago
Idaho is not the only grower of potatoes dumass and do you all need elk to eat? Maybe we need burger king or mcdonalds sent your way.
MrRanwolfe 1 year ago
Sorry about the typo
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
You guys tell us to kill Wolves to save Elk yet you are still going to kill Elk. Why we ask, because according to you they need to be managed but also according to you, their numbers are too low. Make up your mind. Oh and here's a little somthing you guys probly dont know, when a Wolf kills its prey, if it doesnt eat it. Something else will
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Oh here we go, yet another poser claiming to be a researcher...what are you 15? I live with these freaking mutts you fool and I somehow doubt you've ever even seen a live one. So please, don't try to peddle your bs on me, the next thing you'll be trying to claim is that they only kill the sick and the weak.
Yeah, lets feed the ravens, they need lots of help. These wolves are the most wasteful predator to walk the landscape, there are no excuses to support that.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer Most wasteful? The most wasteful are sport hunters that are humans. Ravens arent the only one's who eat off a Wolfs prey, I should have expected someone that only kills them to not know that.
PS. Mutts are dogs with more then one breed of dog in them, use your terms correctly.
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually you are wrong, actually it is a violation of law to waste game pal. Hunters have not only funded, but managed our wildlife to bring it back from the brink over 90 years ago. And 'sport hunting'? what exactly is that? It couldn't be predator management now could it?
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer You are a hunter and you dont know what sport hunting is. That's pretty sad. Actually alot of adults do, and its an anime, that I like to edit with, just like adults would watch Adult Swim shows or any show. You kill the Wolf, just because you kill it doesnt mean you know anything about it.
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually yes, I do know what it is, I already explained it to you. Human are manageable in a non lethal way, the only predator that is. As such we have used regulated hunting as a tool of predator management. I am sure that probably goes clear over your head and your shallow thought processes.
Call your cartoons what you like, a different name doesn't change that fact, nor does it show you mature, in fact, just the opposite
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer So now the people that created it are immature. Also those "cartoons" I watch are based off morals and such. Its clear to me you dont know what all the hunters out there do. And you know, some anime like Clannad are all about morals and reality same with anime like Lucky Star-an anime that only gives out information. Now are you going to say artists are immature fools too?
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So, to answer my question....you are an emotionally driven person with no real wildlife experience beyond what you learn from your cartoons.
I am not surprised
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So Angelo, mr. adult wolf expert, why don't you enlighten us on just exactly how many wild wolves you have seen in person.
What is your background in wildlife ecology and management?
Or is it just animal worship that is based on emotional beliefs that are far to willing to overlook any facts that prove your beliefs completely incorrect?
I love you city boi's, you are so easy to spot
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago 2
@Eaglecreekbrewer First off im female and it isnt Angelo. And you didnt even give me a chance to answer. Learn from cartoons you got to be kidding me!?The only time I ever watched that anime I edit with "Wolfs Rain" was when I was 11. I've learned from years of research, Im not the one who thinks that because you kill it you know everything about it. Another hunter who presumes, atleast you aren't as bad as TheFreeCoyote who told me he only got his information from youtube videos.
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo LOL, the free coyote lives right in the guts of wolf country sweetheart. He has forgotten more about wolves that you're ever going to know.
And I am sorry if I called you a child, but seriously, you can expect that when you come on here and show such a lck of knowledge and maturity. You have yet to make one post that isn't based on emotional based bs. You have proven you have NO understanding of wildlife management or for that matter, nature in general.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer Actually it happens before I say anything that has to do with emotion, in truth it didnt happen everytime. My veiws aren't based off emotion, because I know you guys dont give a fuck that you take an innocent life. And I know you guys wont stop, I prefer to give information or helpful tips to the idiots here. And take this thought in before you say save the Elk. Human poulation ranges from 6.9Billion to 8Billion, we have homeless people, starving people, poverty, slavery
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer This is exactly what I said earlier you hunters insult us and call us children and naturally presume we have no clue what we are talking about and emotionally driven just because we are willing to stand up for a species. You dont see most of us doing that to you for wanting to protect the Elk but then again you still kill the Elk even though you guys rant about saving them.
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancing And so I gave you the opportunity to list your personal experience, contact with wolves and education in wildlife ecology and management. I take it from your obvious ignoring of those questions, I painted you correctly the first time.
Your age doesn't necessarily exempt you from being a child, and your actions haven't managed to do that either. There are plenty of pro wolf people I have never labeled a child, if you find that every time, that says more about you than anyone
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer and a ton of other bs, yet you sit here on a computer worried about Elk. Me? I already donate to that stuff, I try to be an activist in all feilds,
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo human hater!!!...send mo money sucka!!
brandy19588 2 months ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Do you even have the most basic concept of wildlife management you foolish little child, obviously not. There is a vast difference between a manageable and functional one and an unmanageable and dysfunctional one. Please, try and graduate middle school before you try to come out and play with the adults
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer And I am not a child, it amazes me that whenever someone speaks out agaisnt a hutners. The hunter immediatly insults them, and calls them a child. Everytime
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Oh well, excuse me, I guess I find it interesting that an adult would have a page full of cartoons.......
Your knowledge level of wolves is obviously that of a sub adult with little to no real understanding or knowledge of these animals. Once again, I seriously doubt you've ever even seen one, yet will still claim to be another 'expert'. I have seen so many of your type come and go, I lost track long ago. Your lord of nature is just a disease ridden varmint, nothing more.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer If shows mark someone's age, makes me wonder am I allowed to watch movies from my childhood and still be an adult, or enjoy any show
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo Actually the world of animation defines one of their inability to comprehend reality, Thus the need to get wrapped up in formats that support that delusion. It is a healthy thing in kids, not so much so in adults.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
Wolves dont breed like rabbits they breed once a year, only the Alpha's of the pack. In late spring
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo A annual rate or 25 - 30% rivals rabbits there boi. Once again please learn something before exposing what an ignoramus you really are. I see you are another one of those wolf worshipers who has no real knowledge of these animals, just the propaganda that has been fed to you.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
wolves are taking over North Idaho, My hunting partner and I were out this elk season in one of our spots, we bugled on a ridge point and got a wolf to answer us it's howl echoed through the canyon and was one of the creepiest things ive ever heard. We did'nt hear an elk bugle the rest of the day. It's sad to say but with the way they breed and how they kill elk and deer for fun the future of our elk hurds and hunting will be no more.
djerome777 1 year ago
That being said, if all of you decide to boycott potatoes, that's probably not a bad idea. I'll bet you can't though. Everybody loves McDonalds and Burger King french fries. I'll bet that's the first thing that you and your fat kids dive into as you pull out of the drive-through.
ramtruck97 1 year ago
To anybody who disagrees with what this fellow says in his video, I'm happy for you. We have a Constitution that actually allows you to have an opinion and you should be thankful for that. I respect your right to have an opinion as well as your right to have a livelihood and live in a place of your choosing. Me and my fellow Idahoans have the EXACT same rights that you do so please respect us as well. We don't, let me repeat that, DON"T want the wolves here.
ramtruck97 1 year ago
Animal rights activists are nothing more than "human haters"! I have been saying this for a long time: Animal Rights activists are not animal lovers; NO, they are actually human haters!! They suffer from a mental disorder called "Reaction Formation" - check out my channel to see the link to the book on Google that explains this violent, abnormal mental illness that they have...
Scrap5000 1 year ago
@Scrap5000, that is about the same way I consider them. When you have crackpots like Ashley Judd on one hand advocating for wolves, but on the other hand she supports the murder of innocent unborn human babies, something drastically skewed in her thinking is to be presumed.
tncdel 1 year ago
@tncdel Yes! Not to mention how all "A.R. Rights" indivuduals always wish cancer on everyone wo hunt, fish & trap (and who therefore can also be called "the only people who fund wildlife programs through their tax money and license fees"), then you can start to see just how insane the people are.
Dig deeper and all of these "AR" people eventually tell you that humans are evil and all eserve to die slow & horrible deaths. It's quite concerning.
Scrap5000 1 year ago
hunting is the true economic backbone of Idaho. wolves kill elk and deer so much that the hunting economy of ID is suffering. people are going elsewhere to spend money. what to do now? move to san francisco...they don't allow wolf hunting there. I'll be in Northern ID with my Browning 7mag putting down White Fang
donnersummitdweller 1 year ago
These hunters are useto the 1,000 herd crap they made after they killed all the wolves, and killed or removed the Shoshone - only 100 years ago. KEEP BOYCOTTING IDAHO! STOP THE MOREmans!!!!!!!!!! They keep crying cause they gotta learn how to hunt!
ariwite76 1 year ago
These hunters are useto the 1,000 herd crap they made after they killed all the wolves, and killed or removed the Shoshone - only 100 years ago. KEEP BOYCOTTING IDAHO! STOP THE MOREmans!!!!!!!!!!
ariwite76 1 year ago
Josh, Omg... i'm a veggie with egg whites only and now i can't eat my potato, carrot, lettuce, Quiché because i hav to sav da wolfies and boycott idaho potatoes. Now what? Sincerely, Ashley Judd, remember to kill baby humans and save baby wolfz.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
What a life people like this guy have! Do you really think people are going to take you seriously without having any credentials with experience? NO!
animals77777 1 year ago
...say is completely a lie. From the Biologists, experts and others I network with, and my experience, we find comments from hunting organizations and hunters to be absolutely fabricated on Wolves!
animals77777 1 year ago
...How do I know this guy is a lier in his statements? Firstly; he has no answer to any of his statements. He is merely stating something but giving no meaning to it. You can't have a cause without an effect, and that is what this gentleman is doing. Secondly; I am a Biologist who works with predator behaviors. I have on the field experience. Even though this guy is stating comments without any backup to them, I know he relies his views from hunting organizations, and I know what they...
animals77777 1 year ago
...of Elk population decline in the few areas that their populations have declined, but it is human harvest. This guy has NO credentials in anything he is saying, he is mearly speaking out of his ass with no viable proof. Buddy: Why not go to the websites of the organizations I gave you and get the story with the Biologists who work on the field with Wolves? Why not get the straight answer from local Biologists if you don't trust the organizational ones?...
animals77777 1 year ago
...This guy is nothing more than your typical redneck trying to push away others who don't believe in his belief and persuading that his beliefs are the correct ones even though he has no facts on his statements, and his resources he relies on come from organizations who benefit from the elimination of Wolves, like the Bear Blog. Even the closest hunting organization to hunters, the Fish and Game, came out with a article on July 31st stating that Wolves are not the cause of...
animals77777 1 year ago
This is another hunter fabricating his views to gather more support for his lobbiest purpose. He stated that the facts are not just from him, but did not give any resources. The resources he follows are from that of hunting organizations. Why not follow resources from the Fish and Wildlife, National Wildlife Federation, World Wildlife Fund, IFAW, DOF, Nature Conservancy, National Geographic Explorer or any of the other environmental groups who do on the field work related to Wolves?
animals77777 1 year ago
its not RMEF numbers it is pretenders of wildlife and western conspiracy that are lying about the elk herd numbers the pres of RMEFhas told them to quit lying to the press claiming there are more then there actually is. if you google up elk numbers in yellowstone you will see a pdf link from rmef read it!! I believe they were using the same biologists??
muleywatcher 1 year ago
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Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
Fuck your economics! Wolves belong in the wild kill a few but not all!
carnypimp 1 year ago
DUMBASS HILLJACK GO CHOKE ON A POTATO. WOLVES ARE PREDITORS, DUH. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO CONTROL WHAT IS GOING ON. IT MAY TAKE SOME MONEY, BUT THE A HOLES YOU SUPPORT WANT THAT IN THEIR POCKETS INSTEAD. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR INBRED ASS AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, YEE HAW!!!!! (you post garbage like this, you deserve my comment)
mgerdts 1 year ago
@mrbeate Wolves were NEVER in danger, geezus, get some facts. Two your pests left the park and destroyed Idaho and Montana's elk herds, not to mention the ones in YS. Three they are spreading disease and putting real endangered species in further risk. Do you have any facts or just more emotionally based bullshit. You people who have no real knowledge of either the situation or real information about wolves do little service to any wildlife, including the wolves.
I mean seriously what are you 13
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@mrbeate Geeze, necro much?
Wrong wolf, wrong place, wrong reason. Wolves were never or have ever been in danger of extinction.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer If they where never in danger they would have never needed reintroduced!
carnypimp 1 year ago
@carnypimp Heya moron, they never needed introduced, that's why they are listed as "non essential, experimental" You retards really need to get a few facts.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer Really you are a damn liar. I watched a documentry about how healthy the Buffalo are and how the Beaver numbers have went up since the Wolves where put in Yellow Stone. It is in the history book all of North America had Gray Wolves before they where all ordered killed. I think you rednecks just love to make shit up!
carnypimp 1 year ago
@carnypimp Oh brother, you read it in a book huh? The buffalo are in decline, the beavers were never doing bad, the elk and moose are all but gone. Wrong wolf fool, this is not the native wolf. Sadly, you drink up bad information and want to claim it as fact. And times have changed, we no longer live in a pre columbian ecosystem, I know that's hard for an idiot to understand, but it is in fact, a fact
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
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carnypimp 1 year ago
@carnypimp You have some very serious emotional issue kid. I hope you seek help from a professional.
Wolves never bring any kind of balance, look up coronation island for yet another example of that.
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer I dont even no why im so shitty. I just fear that you people want all wolves dead and I hope only the population is thinned and not whiped out!
carnypimp 1 year ago
go to save elk . (com) and see what these things really do.
MrSbc327 1 year ago
Ahh, yes the five 9's(99.999%). Right on and great vid. The wolves are here and so is the gear. Bring back the T Rex, he was here once also.
hemiller65 1 year ago
Bravo to common sense.
crcb30 1 year ago
fuck no
leave the wolves be
bunchabugz17 1 year ago
Here in NC the taste of Idaho potatoes is even sweeter now, I support my friends in Idaho. I have a good friend in Idaho City, his son works on a ranch up in Cascade, he killed a wolf this past Fall, it seemed to have a taste for young calves. The wolves seem to be really tough on the elk in unit 36 where we used to hunt all the time.
wapiti21 1 year ago
LOL! Boycotting potatoes now? Well, I agree with you. Wolves are overpopulated, and need to be trimmed down a bit. Not that I want them to be totally wiped out, but just trimmed down. But... Why potatoes? .... Makes no fucking sense.... That's sad.
Tyco200 1 year ago
We heard that the number of Wolves is more like 3000. In Jackson Hole there are packs showing up every day that UFWS have no idea where they came from. Numbers don't mean anything, this thing is running amuck. Idaho is getting hit the worst. I just bought all the Potatoe Chips in town let those Pot Smoking Wolf Luvr's get the munchies now.... they bring me a Daed Wolf I'll give'em a bag of chips.....got to go there's one at the door now.
TheFreecoyote 2 years ago
Hey bro, going out to get some good ol' Idaho spuds to go in my vinison stew.
Good thing I tubed before the grocery trip, might have forgot the taters or bought whatever was on sale.})
houndman6 2 years ago
Hey Tim, cat got your tongue? My new vid is uploaded and being rendered, it is just the first in a series. Enjoy.....lol.
I take it either Bangs is dragging his feet or ignoring you.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
And why in the hell are you asking me questions from a different video now?
Either post here, or move on. No more chucking and diving and spreading a conversation all over YT.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
They are arrogant, narcissistic and put out information that is absurd all in hopes of people thinking they have a real grasp on the situation. They have anything but. What they have done is lie, cheat, steal, cover up and ignore the truth, reality, science and the well being of both the environment and humanity.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
You are correct in one thing, no one knows exactly how many wolves there are. Through negligence, corruption, bad science and bad legislation, this whole situation was allowed to get completely out of hand.
You will notice, I used "best accurate estimate" and based that number off of information gleaned from many sources.
When the gov't or some expert gives you a hard number like 843, you already know that number is probably wrong. 843, not 850, but exactly 843. They must have an all seeing eye
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Prove them wrong, the reality proves them wrong, they'll admit they are wrong, even the guys you love to hide behind will admit they are wrong.
You're going to find out asking the specific questions, will get you a very slow response. Hmmmmm.....I wonder why.
Be careful what you want to stand behind Tim. You need to think a few more levels down before you get indignant about that number. It could work against you, lol.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
David Mech under oath in a federal court in Montana last fall testified to the fact that the real number of wolves in the West was at least 3000. And would estimate all state populations numbers to be double what the current numbers show.
So, Tim. I guess that is right from the horses mouth.
Have you heard back from Bangs and Smith yet?
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
And now that I have answered you questions. You answer mine..........
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
Here is a hard fact for you Tim. Humans can hunt, AND grow herds at the same time. Wolves can not, their impact on an elk herd is exactly the opposite if humans impact. I've already explained this to you before, have you learned nothing.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 4
@Eaglecreekbrewer, Man's total impact on wildlife is negative. Look up "overfishing" and study the plight of game in Africa and Asia.
Remember that bison were almost wiped out in America by the same ilk that wants to get rid of wolves. The idea that people are beneficial to wildlife is a lie in full context. We have totally changed the character of the land and driven out natural predators, which need far more acreage than herbivores like elk, moose and deer. That's the true context.
Antithropocentric 10 months ago
Really? So you are not going to be happy until we run out of elk and the wolves starve? That's ridiculous and an ignorant attitude to have. It will happen, eventually, but why in the hell would we want to wait until that point to start addressing the problem. The Banff herd, The YS herd, The Lolo herd and the Clearwater herd and many others are all headed to this situation, they are just moving into areas that were less affected before and until those collapse too they will grow .
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 4
Read below tim, I explained it. Like I said, when YS elk herds dry up, and they will. Perhaps you'll see the reality.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 4
Tim, our elk numbers are down, way down, and in some areas they don't think they'll be able to bring them back. You have to sort out the lies from the facts and when something is proven false, like RMEF's estimated elk numbers that the pro wolf crowd clings to, you have to let it go. Smiths numbers for YS are pure fantasy, I wonder how long they are being stated as factual though?
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 7
No tim, we are not exaggerating that. I am sorry man, but the elk are suffering big time, and on a level that hunters could never inflict. And don't get indignant about me not answering questions. You haven't haven't answered any of mine.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 7
@Eaglecreekbrewer Oh yes, you say Elk populations are so low, but before you blame the wolves get your buddies to stop hunting them this Elk hunting season.
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
@oOoDancingAngeloOo So, the fact that we have hunted them for over 80 years and grew the elk herds at the same time must have been a freak accident of nature. Once again you simple minded fool, you have no idea of any facts, nature or wildlife management. Perhaps you should consider that they were talking to you personally when they said "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt"
Eaglecreekbrewer 1 year ago
@Eaglecreekbrewer In the early 1900's we hunted the Wolves out of every state except 3. Also Wolves are not the only species killing Elk. Ive been a researcher and have study Wolves for many years. Just because you know how to kill a Wolf doesnt mean you know anything about them or their lifestyles
oOoDancingAngeloOo 1 year ago
But, keep in mind, the wolves do not have sole rights to the elk. I know this pisses you off but frankly, you need to get over it.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 5
They are eating the last of the elk in a zone and they are moving on to the next, we are seeing huge declines in ALL of our elk herd Tim. They are spreading into other states, they are killing other animals out side of elk. They have been documented killing grizzly's for crying out loud. it will take a complete collapse of our ecosystem for the wolves to collapse. That's exactly what they seen in Russia, Canada and Alaska.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 5
F&G has to use the "official" number, even they admit it's higher if you talk to them, call them Tim. The 843 official number is the one they are required to use as per the parameters of the ESA and how they count them. They can only use that number for their management plans, it's more politics than wildlife management.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 4
Like I said, don't take my word for it, ask around. Ask bangs if the 843 number is solid. Ask him how they are required to count wolves.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Tim, they started in the Lolo, that herd is all but wiped out, they have spread in a circular patten form the introduction site. Our elk herds are declining in the same pattern. We now have isolated elk extinctions within the Lolo and Clearwater zones. These were two of the largest herds in Idaho pre introduction. the only new player is the wolf. they hate hate hate to admit it is the wolves but guess what, it is. The wolves move on, the elk just decline.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
But, don't take my word for it Tim, ask Bangs. No one wants to or can accurately answer that question. But it is well known it's far over 850.
Take a look at the process and the facts Tim. Doesn't it piss you off just a bit to know they are intentionally lying to you?
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Tim, go look at how they are required to count them, dammit man, use some common sense and get a few fats. They can not count a wolf unless it can be proven it wasn't already counted, and they can use no estimates as they do with all other animals. It is skewed to show a much lower number. If you had any idea of the terrain in Idaho or the difficulty in getting a verified count you could see the fallacy. It's just another political ploy to keep the numbers from showing factual information.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
What exactly are you going to have to see happen before you step back and see you have been fed a line of BS?
Go study what happened in Banff, look deeper into YS and quit listening to Smith. He's no better than DoW the only thing he is interested in is a lifetime job on the taxpayers dime. Why didn't they count the elk there Tim? And given that, how did he come up with a number higher than last year when its evident it isnt? He pulled it out of his ass that's how. He is covering up the decline
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
843? Are you kidding me Tim. The best accurate estimate is over 1600 Tim. If you knew how they actually counted wolves you could see the fallacy in that number.
But, it is also proven that wolves cause isolated extinctions in herds. They seen it in Russia, Canada and Alaska. And we are now seeing it in Idaho. When YS runs out of elk, are you going to believe me then?
That herd is destine for collapse, the ave age of the elk there is now 8, with few young cows and calves.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 3
Holy hell......... Thank you Tim. At least you can see through that bullshit.
Now, that I have a semblance of hope for you. Have you asked yourself the next question, what is the motivation behind the ESA and the EPA?
To be honest with you, this is about far more than wolves, can you see it?
And I don't support Bridges, Mayers or Gillett. I don't like propaganda from either side.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
You know, it's has a lot in common with Nazi Germany. Hitler had the masses on his side in the beginning too. Of course he used lies, propaganda and emotion to win over the masses. Well, until the facts started coming out and people woke up.
The challenge is on the anti's side to try and keep the truth hidden, the propaganda rolling. It is a challenge you are currently slipping in, our side is gaining momentum, we have the truth, and people are waking up. We will win simply because of that.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
Are you seriously going to claim that DoW doesn't use pure propaganda?
Come on Tim, answer that question......
No one loves presenting and eating up pure unadulterated propaganda like the environmental groups you love to stand behind. I have swayed more pro wolf people to my side than you are ever going to sway the other way. You know why Tim?
Because I have the facts and the truth on MY side.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
LOL, Tim, Dudette if you really think I don't know the weights of the wolves here, you're a true idiot. I play with you, I feed you crap half the time and you are my mushroom, you are already in the dark so it isn't hard to make that happen. But, like I said, you can not prove it wrong either. When I put something in a vid, it is solid, no bsing about it.
The fact you can not let that one issue go when I have presented you with so many other questions only shows you true lack of knowledge.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
You know Tim, it's to bad you never came about these manners long ago. I don't mind the simple name calling you resort to, I don't even mind knowing that you'll never be willing to see the truth. But that hatred you possess down in side of you, your threats, wishes of death on people you don't even know, your hate for both country and fellow humans was your undoing as far as ever getting any respect or ever gaining any relevance. Keeo sending you money to DoW, they have to make a hummer pmt.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
You know Tim, my current wolf vid isn't biased either, the information came from a multitude of sites, including pro wolf sites. It has picture proof to back up the facts. It pisses off the true wolf propagandists but they know they can't debunk it. It contains simple truths and facts. Sorry if the lying bastards don't like it, but that doesn't make it biased. The next one will be even more under their skin. lol
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
Its all sourced Tim, it is far from propaganda.
If you are interested in propaganda, I suggest you move on over to DoW's vid's. for they contain nothing but emotion and propaganda.
Geezus man, you love the pot calling the kettle black don't you.
irony much?
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
You know Tim, and this is the truth. I wasn't in the beginning. I still respect people that have real interest in the facts. I still don't hate wolves, these wolves just don't belong here, they were introduced under false pretenses and as I seen the games DoW and the wolf "biologists" were playing and continue to do so, they lost any support I had for the whole issue. They have no reason and no honor, they violated every agreement they made and they ignored the risks.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
You're just going to have to wait for the movie TT. They will all be sourced in my next video. Sadly, your past behaviors, threats, and censorship have you blocked from my channels and thus commenting. I guess I don't have to worry about it being spammed up with your BS. the real truth is out the TT. Like I said a court case is actually little PROOF of anything except what was presented in one specific case, perhaps that's why they have a tendency to get over turned.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
This from one of your unbiased experts, you prove my point exactly. His science is skewed, he just wants it shouted through.
The fact is, wolves were never endangered, that's just another lie. They were NEVER in danger of extinction. And eventually all of that becomes moot if in fact the truth is revealed, of which it is. Perhaps DoW is going to survive jumping the gun and introducing a public health risk, or perhaps it will be their undoing.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 2
How about the federal gov't and the USFWS Tim. The subspecies issue was defined a long time ago. Again, it is only your lack of knowledge about the issue as a whole and the importance and parameters of subspecies that leads you to want to minimize it.
And No they aren't anti wolf, they are pro truth.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago 3
Tim, we have already covered this, no reason to waste more bandwidth. Fact is, they can't answer the questions, not me.
Oh, and also ask Smith why they decided to not do an elk count in YS this year?
Then ask him where he pulled that number from?
I am busy Tim, go ask your buddies the questions now. Let me know what they say.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Not for much longer ;-)
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Really? You are going to try and discredit the Russian research? The most in depth modern science conducted on wolves in the last 100 years. LOL, get real Tim. Or the Canadian research? ROFL, good luck. And who's information are you supposedly going to use to debunk it, the guys that have been proven to be liars. Geezus Tim, I bet you think Obama is telling the truth too. How freaking gullible are you. I always said you were a hateful pos, but I never thought you were truly stupid.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
And I have debated your so called experts Tim, they have done anything but crushed me. they won't answer that question directly either. Then they get real skittish when you start asking the other questions. They lie Tim, simple as that. And your dumb enough to believe them or even defend them.
Go ask Bangs and Smith the questions I gave you, see what they tell you. Bangs lied about the Russian information for years right up until it was proven it was given to him. He reminds me of Nancy Palosi.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
I don't discredit them Tim, the real wolf biologists do. They are a laughing stock among real experts Tim. Go ask them those questions Tim, you see what they say. By not doing it only proves to everyone you have no interest in the facts, which is what makes you meaningless. I gave you the questions, how simple can I make it for you?
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago