I rewatched the last episode: the first time I cried when Adama sees dead Roslin. I guess I paid attention to the music.
The easterly view ending was amazing: the emotion built by four seasons prior was amazing, the music was as always genius. The mitochondrial eve end was just so fake! the dialogue, the setting, even the song played (they should've used the final five song not the version with the words!) and why did the series have end with baltar and six!
@olive12121 Well, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
Hopefully one of those times, the writers won't frak up the ending and make it better.
Though admittedly I did like Kara's disappearing and the end with Adama/Roslin. I guess i'm pretty satisfied for nothing Adama and Saul's good-byes. Friends like that need no good-bye.
and good gods I'm tearing up just thinking about it
I love the moment when he talks about farming, where he relizes after all the knowledge, and changing himself he did to be sombody. That in the end it was his roots and his father which gave him the most important knowledge.
To hell with the 150,000 year later ending. I don't care if we did descend from them. That's cool, but come on. Should have ended after the easterly view speech. Seriously.
@Oxydox No need, we already know the Lords of Kobol... Uh... I mean Olympians... destroyed Atlantis thanks to Plato, no need to show it, just give us the happy ending and let our knowledge of history fill in the rest. Granted it's better that they didn't as they landed if Africa and they ended up finding Atlantis in Spain. lol It old of made it an odd ending now.
I know the whole deal with needed to go 150k years in the past to explain how their culture ended up getting copied by us but they'd of done better to build that city they were talking about. It would of explained how they survived 150k years ago, explained the Atlantis myth and as the Battlestar Atlantis existed (it was the fleet flagship) it wouldn't have even been random.
@AGTLI I agree. Honestly, I don't think they even need that. I think most viewers of this show are smart enough to figure out what Hera's significance is supposed to be. Then of course, there is much to be said for leaving things to the imagination.
I have got 5 books called Encyclopedia Galactica, it contains Isaac Asimov's whole Foundation, Empire and Robot universe (twenty thousand years of human history). The 5 books are very very thick together.
Like Battlestar Galactica. I felt the same after the final episode like after the reading the last Asimov novel. I hope my grandsons will know BSG. I wish there were a button next to the like, dislike button
Hybrid after finding Earth: "all of this has happened before and all shal not happen again the cycle is gone the children of man have rejoined the stars let peace take hold of the perfect world end of line."
There should be a law passed that everyone has to watch Battlestar Galactica
but good god this ending ;_; IMO, i think the whole series should have ended after Adama's speech.
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I fucking hated the 150,000 year later ending. It totally butchered the passionate feelings I was feeling at this part
@icyclaw123 i felt it shouldve cut out when the first robot on the news reel waved, rather than getting into all along the watchtower..just have those first few keys and black screen...instead of caprica and gaius walking down the street
@icyclaw123 Yeah, I think about that ending every time BSG comes into conversation. Tbh, I really don't know what else they could have done. Yes ending it at the speech would have made it artistically brilliant, but it wouldn't have brought the show full circle. I appreciated the message the writers were conveying, just not so much how it was presented at the very end.
@icyclaw123 It would have been better if they should that humans after a longer time up to the point where they're exploring stars and find the twelve colonies or something like that.
The ME bit was good.... but it did kind of ruin the emotion built up by the previous scenes, you cannot deny.
It was a good ending... but I reckon they should've done it after the credits. Like in movies when they have small extras after the credits. It should've been then. The show deserved to go out with powerful emotion, not fantastic music.
@wellgeewhizz I cried SO frakking hard at that scene... usually, I don't cry during death scenes, but as my two favorite characters were involved, yeah... I tried so hard not to, but I could not help it. The scene was...perfect in every aspect.
anyone know the name of the letimotif at around 1:50, continues til the shape of things to come kicks in. I've noticed it a good few times throughout the show and couldn't find a match on wikipedia
@ScottDanielJackson It was established by Richard Gibbs in the mini-series which combines both the yet-tobe-named Head Six pattern. Listen to Are You Alive? on the miniseries soundtrack.
Just finished this show for the second time through.... it is so much better as you know what is going to happen you view each scene with new eyes... you see things that you missed the first time around.... honestly, everybody here in a year or so do a marathon and watch it again.
I almost think it is better a second time around, almost
@MrZingnigga It does on my copy, but I've been wondering about that too. Maybe they wanted to give listeners a few seconds to straighten up and wipe away the tears before starting the final piece of the album. ;)
The thing is, even if they had kept their technology, there was no longer the industrial and technological base to sustain it. At most, they had only a few years of high technology before they'd have to revert to a agrarian or hunter-gather civilization - better to make the break early after arriving on Earth and new foundations for human society than to delay the inevitable by holding on to the old Colonial way of life
@MacaroniLololol True, but I liked how it shot forward to the present to show us following a similar path, perhaps to our similar destruction. But maybe, just maybe...We can do it right.
Word. The final scene with Adama should have rounded things off. Much more of an emotional punch than the actual last scene, which was just intellectual indulgence on the part of the writers.
@wattsvilleblues i agree with the original post, and whenever i rewatch it, i stop after this scene because it's the real 'end'. still, they had to provide a sense of closure, and they did that.
Yeah you have a point. I just finished the final episode. And while I'm pretty satisfied with it, it kind of leaves you with a "Now the sense of the moral story IS..." feeling.
BSG is the best show ever made. I just finished re-watching the entire series on DVD again and it's just as great the second time through as it was the first.
i thought that was one of the nicest parts of the whole series. ron just knows how to write those human moments so well. eddie and mary are brilliant as well. as the story goes, the scene required numerous takes because mary would break when she felt eddie's tears on her hand.
The worst part about this scene is how completely unprepared Adama is. There he is, talking about how he hopes she's got a green thumb and he looks over and BAM! he realizes she's gone. It's so painful to watch, Olmos is a great actor.
I cried. I cry thinking about it. My dad and I had to watch it in the complete dark so we didn't see each other crying at this scene. I'm already sad now :(
Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
This one Track covers so much! From Adama's final departure from Galactica (Seem's to skip the gazelle scene to Kara's Farewell disappearance) right on to the Cabin Site Scene.
At around 2:35, when the "face of the shape of things to come" theme sets in - which you haven't heard in this form since some time early in season 2 - it suddenly sinks in that NOW everything really has come full circle ... it's really ending now! And that's when you realize that this is goodbye! *sniff .. sniff* :(
Actually, that particular cue was in Unfinished Business, when Sam announces his and Kara's marriage.
The best part of this track, aside from its very existence, is the beginning when a section from Diaspora Oratorio plays. There's no dramatic reveal or shocking twist at the end this time. It's as if it's saying "This time, it's real. You've come home." Musically, that's easily one of the series' most beautiful moments.
I listened to the music long before I ever watched the show, but now that I've completed the series, McCreary's use of pervasive leitmotif strikes me as absolute perfection. Brilliant stuff and the music really helped elevate the entire experience to another level.
I managed to hold back the tears right up till the scene with this song. Then I exploded, I cried the way only someone who's lost the one they love can. God this series and that scene in particular are beautiful.
I swear I managed to keep from crying till Baltar mentioned his past and I just broke down and cried like a little kid all over again. Damnit Baltar, less then three minute's left in the finale and you made me cry my eye's out.
When I watched the final scenes, I had tears in my eyes and reminded me of all the adventures that experienced the last survivors of the colonies to reach their destination: the earth.
At 3:29- 3:57 I start bawling EVERY time I listen. "I laid out the cabin today. It's going to have an easterly view. You should see the light we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains, it's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you." Eddie Olmos is one frakking amazing and emotional actor. His final scene made me weep, and I am not ashamed to say it. ::salutes the cast of BSG and Bear McCreary on a job perfectly done:: This is the BEST SCI-FI SHOW EVER!
The comment about God not liking to be called God does not mean that entity is the devil. I agree with MegaManX. Remember what Baltar says in the final confrontation? That good and evil were invented by us, by mankind.... God is beyond those concepts, God is a force of nature. Ergo, God could never be the devil.... because God is neither good nor bad. Hence why "He doesn't like being called God".
I absolutely hated baltar up until pretty much day break. He finally stopped being a coward and manned up to who he was. My favorite character though was Tigh. "viewing time and the zoo". Dude had so many great lines. I love the way it ended. If everything had been explained it would have lost its luster.
@kush2121 Yeah I really though Kara was some mysterious "final sixth" Cylon or they were wrong about one of them but then she just randomly disappears and we have no idea what that was about.
Now i only like humour shows, because any serious one (lets not even talk about sci fi ones...) are just so far away from galactica that they just bore me.
@krim7 It really is. I mean, I love Stargate and all, but Universe is neither as good as Atlantis or SG-1, and no where near as good as the BSG it emulates.
That said, I do enjoy it, but there is no comparison. I just like to see the mythos added to, and learn more about the ancients.
@krim7 Agreed. And so far in the season, it seems to be pretty good, adding new Ancient stuff, which is always good (the Ancients are fascinating). But definitely not as good as SG-1 or Atlantis, both were incredible.
@EnglanderUK Yeah that basically broke my heart that no other show will ever be as epic as this one and I wish so much that I can't watch it for the first time ever again
at first i was disappointed with the last episode, but when i watched it again i felt a better sense of closure. i mean they could never answer all the questions, they basically set it up so at the end you'd get to know the meaning of life.
what did annoy me was ron moore's massive head taking up 2/3rds of the screen at the end
What I loved best about the series is its all left open, what is this 'god?' Are Starbuck, Caprica Six, and Baltar really angels? And then the whole thing with "you know it doesn't like being called that." I mean is it really a supernatural being or an alien mastermind. The show leaves it entirely up to you. FANTASTIC!
@RapidCityJM Yep. The thing that never ceases to amaze me are how many hateful atheists despise this ending because they consider it a "deus ex machina" or that "god did it." Truth is, Dirk Benedict doesn't step out from behind the curtain and says "I am GOD and I did this." It is reasonable to consider that all this could have just been a coincidence. There is no way to know for sure. :)
I do see it as a deus ex machina ending. Whether they left God open to interpretation is beside the point. They still used God as a vague, all-purpose, magic solution to the complex questions and supernatural events preceding the final episode. People who tuned in hoping to finally figure out what was going on didn't really learn anything.
That said, I did enjoy the series in general for its truthful writing, excellent acting, and serious take on science fiction.
@Orthiel To me, the ending was much more powerful than if they had wrapped it up perfectly with a nice little bow on it.
In real life all the questions dont get answered and when one seemingly terribly painful and important chapter of life closes, youre left with nothing at all...except the possibility to start over from nothing.
Like life this series ended with an ever present question with only one answer...
Baltar did basically answer the religious thing. On Galactica, with Cavil. He gave a scientific, logical reason why evolution at some point demanded a leap of faith.
One leap of faith that was ultimately failed because people were still yet incapable of letting go of their hate for each other.
God is as much an idea as a physical thing. It's in human nature to want more, to want to know more, to want to be more than we are, to want to turn to someone higher up. God's a mystery, not the beardy guy the churches propagate. Wherever he is, God's laughing himself stupid at our stupid ideas about life, the universe and him.
After Caprica finishes ide love to see a BSG sequel series set in our future where we go out into space and discover whats left of the twelve colonies and what not. ^^
@MrRobertSama I just watched the end last night. I was hoping that they built cities and all so they could reboot it with another battlestar. My dreams have been shattered. We can only hope of a prequel BSG like season 5 taking place in the first cylon war.
@MrRobertSama Maybe... But THESE characters are just brilliant I love them all. Maybe they could do a lost episode type of thing. I just cannot get over this show. Watched the ending last Saturday and was blown away.
@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
@irishprice I've always thought that Battlestar owed a large debt to the Babylon 5 series, for being able to just tell a story - however the director / writers wanted to. It seems to me Ron Moore would have had a lot harder time had Joe Stracinsky not done his work.
@SuperSaiyanAl Not at all I just think that the Hollywood machine would not have indulged that if Babylon 5 hadn't been consistently profitable. Even though it was canceled twice, and had a small viewership, they made money because Stracinski made it as cost-effectively as possible. BSG, too had it's moments of confrontation with that machine (ala the inspiration for the story behind "1000th Landing" episode), Good art it seems whether B5, BSG or ST has to escape almost by accident.
You mean the mini-arc where Kara has to get over her guilt over accidentally killing Zak? If that was the result of executive meddling, then it was a good one at least.
I was thinking more along the lines of the third season, where the executives forced the producers to do more stand-alone episodes, creating loose ends and story threads that never got wrapped up.
@SuperSaiyanAl Actually, as I understand it the explosion in the fighter bay / 1000th landing scene was inspired by the insistence that BSG did not have enough "feel good" moments, and they should have a "celebration story" arc of some sort. The explosion was Mr. Moore's way of saying FU to the folks at the corporate,but the desire to screw with BSG became ALOT more focused after that, and the end of 3rd sea. was almost last , corporate viewed the writers strike as a great reason to kill BSG.
@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
@JNJmachinima I know what you mean, its not nearly as good :( I'm sticking it out though, hoping it'll get better. I've started watching 6 feet under and rewatching BTVS to fill the void
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dude, they were devils, it was outrighted when they said God & then they said you know he does not like hearing that name & that is the devil from the bible.
Word of God *The producers, not the inshow god* SAID they were angels....When they said 'You know he dosent like that name' they were refering to the fact he dosent like being CALLED a GOD....That dosent automatically make him the Devil. It means most likley whatever the higher power was...it simply dosent like the title of 'God' for whatever reason....
NOTHING else implicates that it was the Devil....Not a single bloody thing other then your 'Hurr Not god must be evil'...
@MegaManX1415 This analysis makes sense. The truth is that people nowadays banter GOD's name so much and use it to stereotype and justify so many different things that probably have nothing to do with whatever greater power may have orchestrated these events.
I'd bet anything that whatever the power may have been, it is probably nothing like what people expect the colloquial "God" to be, hence the dislike of what it now regards as an unworthy epithet.
@MegaManX1415 not true. their are loads of very subtle things that imply alot. Its up to the viewer to decide for him.herself what they mean. The 6 allways has on red clothes. They HATE! Kara Thrace.... who was one of the only characters that stayed completely loyal to the gods throughout the show! even after she had her weird died/came back from earth thing.
@MegaManX1415 precisly..the name god, gods, angels and so on are just the human perception of whatever the force was...whoever the dungbrain that thought it was the devil by cybergaius´ comment is a moron that obviously didnt pay attention to the show
@the81kid Everyone found it easy to dislike baltar, but he was the most human person on the show. Selfish, weak, fearful. There arent many real Adama's or Starbucks or Helo's. There are lots of baltars out there.
I thought he was the most interesting character, and most amusing.
@labartic absolutely. My friends and family who also enjoy the show HATE Baltar. I never once hated him. He was absolutley the most Human of any character I've ever seen on any show I think. James Callis is brilliant, and I'd never heard of him before this show. I can easily see myself making many of Baltar's decision's and mistakes myself if I were in his shoes.
hey now! i was talking about the song and the series from the start. then everyone took it upon themselves to shoot me down for having opinions. bear mccreary is just awesome.
Quick every one jump into the swirling pool of political issues and dont even bother to say how good this song is, or how good Mceary is. its ok just talk about how similar bsg is to modern life... its cool... totaly normal...
I agree, but some people are to lazy to find an acceptable forum elsewhere, so they annoy post here instead, admittably there are some interesting points brought up, but there has to be a better place for them
again, not my fault. some people were trying to shoot me down for having my own goshdarned opinions. though i suppose you're right. i could've picked a better place for a forum fight.
All of this has happened before but the question still remains does all of this have to happen again? It is a question that looks like to be answered soon enough I mean look how far we have come in computer technology and all, lets hope it does not happen the way it is portrayed in Galactica and maybe we can learn things from it.
Such great music Bear creates!
slagit 1 week ago in playlist BattleStar Galactica Season 4 Soundtrack
This is such an amazingly powerful piece of music.
Vespyro 1 week ago
I rewatched the last episode: the first time I cried when Adama sees dead Roslin. I guess I paid attention to the music.
The easterly view ending was amazing: the emotion built by four seasons prior was amazing, the music was as always genius. The mitochondrial eve end was just so fake! the dialogue, the setting, even the song played (they should've used the final five song not the version with the words!) and why did the series have end with baltar and six!
olive12121 4 weeks ago
@olive12121 Well, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
Hopefully one of those times, the writers won't frak up the ending and make it better.
Though admittedly I did like Kara's disappearing and the end with Adama/Roslin. I guess i'm pretty satisfied for nothing Adama and Saul's good-byes. Friends like that need no good-bye.
and good gods I'm tearing up just thinking about it
TonyEvans96 2 weeks ago in playlist Battlestar Galactica / Bear McCreary Playlist
I love the moment when he talks about farming, where he relizes after all the knowledge, and changing himself he did to be sombody. That in the end it was his roots and his father which gave him the most important knowledge.
TheAtomicusBomb 2 months ago 9
I know a lot about farming...
ineptuneviii 2 months ago 7
i am so totally blown away every time i hear bear's music. there aren't words.
1701what 2 months ago in playlist Battlestar Galactica
To hell with the 150,000 year later ending. I don't care if we did descend from them. That's cool, but come on. Should have ended after the easterly view speech. Seriously.
MintyInfinity 3 months ago
@Oxydox No need, we already know the Lords of Kobol... Uh... I mean Olympians... destroyed Atlantis thanks to Plato, no need to show it, just give us the happy ending and let our knowledge of history fill in the rest. Granted it's better that they didn't as they landed if Africa and they ended up finding Atlantis in Spain. lol It old of made it an odd ending now.
AGTLI 3 months ago
3:54 - 4:12 helps recover from Laura's death.
localfive0 4 months ago in playlist Music Without Lyrics
I know the whole deal with needed to go 150k years in the past to explain how their culture ended up getting copied by us but they'd of done better to build that city they were talking about. It would of explained how they survived 150k years ago, explained the Atlantis myth and as the Battlestar Atlantis existed (it was the fleet flagship) it wouldn't have even been random.
AGTLI 5 months ago 5
@AGTLI I agree. Honestly, I don't think they even need that. I think most viewers of this show are smart enough to figure out what Hera's significance is supposed to be. Then of course, there is much to be said for leaving things to the imagination.
peter1592 4 months ago
I miss this so much, thank god i got the series..
There is another serie Based on the same thing. Called "Caprica"'
Aincare 5 months ago
I have got 5 books called Encyclopedia Galactica, it contains Isaac Asimov's whole Foundation, Empire and Robot universe (twenty thousand years of human history). The 5 books are very very thick together.
Like Battlestar Galactica. I felt the same after the final episode like after the reading the last Asimov novel. I hope my grandsons will know BSG. I wish there were a button next to the like, dislike button
"So say we all"
tvastar 5 months ago
This scene totally made me cry.
JLuVeeGee 5 months ago
Honestly, the scene with Adama and Roslin in the raptor leaves me near-blubbering every time.
To this date, BSG remains the only form of entertainment that feels like it ripped something out of me.
However, it also left something behind. Something grand, and something wonderful, don't know how to explain it.
DukeUuito 6 months ago 7
@DukeUuito I do.
So say we all.
CheapytheHutt 5 months ago
Hybrid after finding Earth: "all of this has happened before and all shal not happen again the cycle is gone the children of man have rejoined the stars let peace take hold of the perfect world end of line."
MonkeyWhisper 6 months ago
This made me cry. I know the end is cheesy and unrealistic as hell, but damn it was so sincere and it wrapped up the characters so well.
Pwells1 6 months ago
My soul dies a little bit every time I see that scene. It's so sad. Roslin and Adama were the best couple ever.
MidgeRidge 7 months ago 2
@MidgeRidge She signed on until the end. That's why they included that part. She made it to the end.
aang94479 6 months ago
@MidgeRidge
they were a nice couple but i preferred Adama and Tigh.
ignorantpom 6 months ago
always leaves a tear on my frakin eye...
FeAteR10 7 months ago
SO SAY WE ALL!
wjscottiii 8 months ago
MANLY TEARS
pu171103 8 months ago 4
I cried three times during this series.
1. When Billy died( I loved that kid)
2. When Laura Roslin died in the raptor
3. When I watched Galactica fly into the sun, piloted by Anders
"To Galactica, best ship in the fleet"
Yes, she certainly was.
So Say We All
masteraj57 8 months ago 8
Such great music this show had. Damn good compositions!
slagit 9 months ago
Perfect^^
TheExiled100 10 months ago
There should be a law passed that everyone has to watch Battlestar Galactica
but good god this ending ;_; IMO, i think the whole series should have ended after Adama's speech.
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I fucking hated the 150,000 year later ending. It totally butchered the passionate feelings I was feeling at this part
icyclaw123 10 months ago 35
@icyclaw123 i felt it shouldve cut out when the first robot on the news reel waved, rather than getting into all along the watchtower..just have those first few keys and black screen...instead of caprica and gaius walking down the street
darthkarr 9 months ago
@icyclaw123 Yeah, I think about that ending every time BSG comes into conversation. Tbh, I really don't know what else they could have done. Yes ending it at the speech would have made it artistically brilliant, but it wouldn't have brought the show full circle. I appreciated the message the writers were conveying, just not so much how it was presented at the very end.
Dirkasnivs 4 months ago
@icyclaw123 It would have been better if they should that humans after a longer time up to the point where they're exploring stars and find the twelve colonies or something like that.
starflame34 3 months ago
@icyclaw123
I agree. I think I'd have appluaded the ending if only they didn't skip forward in time... :\
Jojash177 3 months ago
@icyclaw123 There wasnt any part of BSG that I hated. In my opinion it was a perfect show
dontworrybehappy1677 2 months ago 11
@icyclaw123 NO - the Mitochondrial Eve ending was fantastic. Otherwise, what was so special about Hera? Agreed on that Law we should pass though
Bawbster1 1 month ago
@Bawbster1
The ME bit was good.... but it did kind of ruin the emotion built up by the previous scenes, you cannot deny.
It was a good ending... but I reckon they should've done it after the credits. Like in movies when they have small extras after the credits. It should've been then. The show deserved to go out with powerful emotion, not fantastic music.
HarakMolova 1 month ago
"So much life..."
wellgeewhizz 10 months ago
@wellgeewhizz I cried SO frakking hard at that scene... usually, I don't cry during death scenes, but as my two favorite characters were involved, yeah... I tried so hard not to, but I could not help it. The scene was...perfect in every aspect.
adamaroslinfanatic 10 months ago 3
@ScottDanielJackson that's Someone To Trust, but with a major harmony instead of a minor one.
MrZingnigga 11 months ago
anyone know the name of the letimotif at around 1:50, continues til the shape of things to come kicks in. I've noticed it a good few times throughout the show and couldn't find a match on wikipedia
ScottDanielJackson 11 months ago
@ScottDanielJackson It was established by Richard Gibbs in the mini-series which combines both the yet-tobe-named Head Six pattern. Listen to Are You Alive? on the miniseries soundtrack.
fluidicmethod 11 months ago
Just finished this show for the second time through.... it is so much better as you know what is going to happen you view each scene with new eyes... you see things that you missed the first time around.... honestly, everybody here in a year or so do a marathon and watch it again.
I almost think it is better a second time around, almost
crystallineentity 1 year ago 7
@crystallineentity I've done 5 of those marathons by now, hehe. ;-)
antred11 9 months ago
@antred11 As have I. My dad and I are serious BSG fans, and when we have enough time... "Let's pop in the miniseries and go from there."
adamaroslinfanatic 9 months ago
.....chills......
Zealot117x 1 year ago
I listen to this song in my car all the time, love BSG
keigmeister 1 year ago
Why does this track continue for 30 seconds after the song ends? I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that on the album.
MrZingnigga 1 year ago
@MrZingnigga It does on my copy, but I've been wondering about that too. Maybe they wanted to give listeners a few seconds to straighten up and wipe away the tears before starting the final piece of the album. ;)
antred11 1 year ago
I miss you Battlestar crew. and I shall miss you forever.
SuperiorApostate 1 year ago
The thing is, even if they had kept their technology, there was no longer the industrial and technological base to sustain it. At most, they had only a few years of high technology before they'd have to revert to a agrarian or hunter-gather civilization - better to make the break early after arriving on Earth and new foundations for human society than to delay the inevitable by holding on to the old Colonial way of life
qprmeteor 1 year ago
Words cannot describe how amazing the final scene with Adama was. It would have been so much more profound had the series ended right there.
MacaroniLololol 1 year ago 3
@MacaroniLololol True, but I liked how it shot forward to the present to show us following a similar path, perhaps to our similar destruction. But maybe, just maybe...We can do it right.
SapphireCrusader1988 1 year ago
@SapphireCrusader1988
I doubt we can do it right.
Politicimo 1 year ago
@MacaroniLololol
Word. The final scene with Adama should have rounded things off. Much more of an emotional punch than the actual last scene, which was just intellectual indulgence on the part of the writers.
wattsvilleblues 1 year ago 5
@wattsvilleblues i agree with the original post, and whenever i rewatch it, i stop after this scene because it's the real 'end'. still, they had to provide a sense of closure, and they did that.
cyty13 1 year ago
@wattsvilleblues
Yeah you have a point. I just finished the final episode. And while I'm pretty satisfied with it, it kind of leaves you with a "Now the sense of the moral story IS..." feeling.
Politicimo 1 year ago
Such a great show, but to get rid of all technology I ask you? They sentence themselves to famine and plague and kill over 100,000 years of progress.
willthack13 1 year ago
2:57
"Cultivation?"
"Yes. You know, I know about farming..."
I cried.
ProphetofWar 1 year ago 8
It's like a montage of everything great about the music of the series. <3
EmeraldSky33 1 year ago
This makes me want to cry. So bittersweet.
Bear, you are PERFECT.
EmeraldSky33 1 year ago 3
BSG is the best show ever made. I just finished re-watching the entire series on DVD again and it's just as great the second time through as it was the first.
Jenkins1155 1 year ago
i thought that was one of the nicest parts of the whole series. ron just knows how to write those human moments so well. eddie and mary are brilliant as well. as the story goes, the scene required numerous takes because mary would break when she felt eddie's tears on her hand.
MrZingnigga 1 year ago 4
This should have been the very last scene in the series. Just cut to black and go to credits. It would have been so epic. :(
arctanxtk 1 year ago 4
The worst part about this scene is how completely unprepared Adama is. There he is, talking about how he hopes she's got a green thumb and he looks over and BAM! he realizes she's gone. It's so painful to watch, Olmos is a great actor.
RapidCityJM 1 year ago 99
@RapidCityJM
I cried. I cry thinking about it. My dad and I had to watch it in the complete dark so we didn't see each other crying at this scene. I'm already sad now :(
SargeantSquid 1 year ago 6
Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
happerbolic 1 year ago
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Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
happerbolic 1 year ago
Anybody know if the Caprican bar scene track is posted? It sure sounded like something done by ' Porno For Pyros ' (following the 'Caprica City - Before the Fall' Lead in)
happerbolic 1 year ago
This one Track covers so much! From Adama's final departure from Galactica (Seem's to skip the gazelle scene to Kara's Farewell disappearance) right on to the Cabin Site Scene.
happerbolic 1 year ago
@happerbolic
I'm sure I could be mistaken though.
I also heard (remembered the piece of Balter sayin' "I know about farming"
happerbolic 1 year ago
And then it was all like, 5 MILLION YEARS LATER...
and I was like, 'whut?' :O
AutumnGracy 1 year ago
At around 2:35, when the "face of the shape of things to come" theme sets in - which you haven't heard in this form since some time early in season 2 - it suddenly sinks in that NOW everything really has come full circle ... it's really ending now! And that's when you realize that this is goodbye! *sniff .. sniff* :(
antred11 1 year ago 2
Actually, that particular cue was in Unfinished Business, when Sam announces his and Kara's marriage.
The best part of this track, aside from its very existence, is the beginning when a section from Diaspora Oratorio plays. There's no dramatic reveal or shocking twist at the end this time. It's as if it's saying "This time, it's real. You've come home." Musically, that's easily one of the series' most beautiful moments.
SuperSaiyanAl 1 year ago
I listened to the music long before I ever watched the show, but now that I've completed the series, McCreary's use of pervasive leitmotif strikes me as absolute perfection. Brilliant stuff and the music really helped elevate the entire experience to another level.
1993CorradoSLC 1 year ago 4
I managed to hold back the tears right up till the scene with this song. Then I exploded, I cried the way only someone who's lost the one they love can. God this series and that scene in particular are beautiful.
Kerikath 1 year ago 4
I swear I managed to keep from crying till Baltar mentioned his past and I just broke down and cried like a little kid all over again. Damnit Baltar, less then three minute's left in the finale and you made me cry my eye's out.
anubis118 1 year ago 6
Exactly.
MegaManX1415 1 year ago
When I watched the final scenes, I had tears in my eyes and reminded me of all the adventures that experienced the last survivors of the colonies to reach their destination: the earth.
Enno300 1 year ago
I was crying like a girl when the last scenes took place. There is supposedly a BSG movie in the works...and it takes place on Earth!
ReverseWhiplash 1 year ago
At the end, I cried like a little girl.
redbeard90 1 year ago 2
At 3:29- 3:57 I start bawling EVERY time I listen. "I laid out the cabin today. It's going to have an easterly view. You should see the light we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains, it's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you." Eddie Olmos is one frakking amazing and emotional actor. His final scene made me weep, and I am not ashamed to say it. ::salutes the cast of BSG and Bear McCreary on a job perfectly done:: This is the BEST SCI-FI SHOW EVER!
adamaroslinfanatic 1 year ago 6
@adamaroslinfanatic Yeah, that's the part that does it for me too.
antred11 1 year ago
This show and soundtrack is so awesome!
shadocross 1 year ago
The comment about God not liking to be called God does not mean that entity is the devil. I agree with MegaManX. Remember what Baltar says in the final confrontation? That good and evil were invented by us, by mankind.... God is beyond those concepts, God is a force of nature. Ergo, God could never be the devil.... because God is neither good nor bad. Hence why "He doesn't like being called God".
Cloncurrify 1 year ago
Frakin amazing...the finale broke my heart.
ilikecatsyep 1 year ago 6
@ilikecatsyep
! Know it's the only show and finale that really makes me feel so sad !!
Drukona 1 year ago
I absolutely hated baltar up until pretty much day break. He finally stopped being a coward and manned up to who he was. My favorite character though was Tigh. "viewing time and the zoo". Dude had so many great lines. I love the way it ended. If everything had been explained it would have lost its luster.
kush2121 1 year ago
@kush2121 Yeah I really though Kara was some mysterious "final sixth" Cylon or they were wrong about one of them but then she just randomly disappears and we have no idea what that was about.
It was amazing!
A7XRules4life 1 year ago
This scene was one of the most powerful of the whole show.
But there were so many emotive moments... If I have to choose, I stick with six (SPOILER):
the appearance of Pegasus (shocking).
the Gaeta-Zarek mutiny.
the arrival on first Earth (tragic).
the rescue of New Caprica (epic)
Cali's death.
Adama speaking to dead Roslin about the easterly view of his hub, at the finale.
The best sci-fi show I've ever seen.
Ennio444 2 years ago 26
@Ennio444 No. The best show I have ever seen.
NFDinatra 1 year ago
3:00 - Just amazing. Bear's theme will forever give me goosebumps. What a dazzling piece of artistry, passion, elegance and emotion. Terrific!
raynimrod 2 years ago 3
I fucking hate Galactica, you know why? Because it set the bar so high no other program can match it!
EnglanderUK 2 years ago 152
@EnglanderUK Thats a reason to love it :)
labartic 2 years ago 4
I feel sooo much like you...
Now i only like humour shows, because any serious one (lets not even talk about sci fi ones...) are just so far away from galactica that they just bore me.
lestat23989 2 years ago 2
Mad Men holds up pretty well. Can't compare the two shows, but it's very good in a different way.
the81kid 2 years ago
@EnglanderUK Agreed!
manco82 1 year ago
@EnglanderUK And Stargate Universe is doing a GREAT job at falling well under that bar... :)
krim7 1 year ago
@krim7 It really is. I mean, I love Stargate and all, but Universe is neither as good as Atlantis or SG-1, and no where near as good as the BSG it emulates.
That said, I do enjoy it, but there is no comparison. I just like to see the mythos added to, and learn more about the ancients.
RC1312Kad 1 year ago
@RC1312Kad It is a good show but it is neither great like SG-1 & Atlantis nor Amazing like BSG.
Hopefully, season 2 will bring SGU up to the great tier (hopefully). :)
krim7 1 year ago
@krim7 Agreed. And so far in the season, it seems to be pretty good, adding new Ancient stuff, which is always good (the Ancients are fascinating). But definitely not as good as SG-1 or Atlantis, both were incredible.
And none of them come close to BSG.
RC1312Kad 1 year ago
@EnglanderUK Yeah that basically broke my heart that no other show will ever be as epic as this one and I wish so much that I can't watch it for the first time ever again
artemaus10 1 year ago
The ending always gives me goosebumps
xVincentVx 2 years ago 6
"God" .... you know he hates being called that. ;)
Kosh800 2 years ago 4
love. this. song.
funniestbone 2 years ago
3:06 "you know I know about farming"
trylobyte07 2 years ago
And when he broke down after saying that, I was teary eyed and trying hard to remember this was a television show. Drew me in so deeply!
Arthezius 2 years ago
It still saddens me that the show is over.. Though, I'm thankful I got to see it at all. To this day, the best damn show around.
TheRealBlackPuma 2 years ago 2
at first i was disappointed with the last episode, but when i watched it again i felt a better sense of closure. i mean they could never answer all the questions, they basically set it up so at the end you'd get to know the meaning of life.
what did annoy me was ron moore's massive head taking up 2/3rds of the screen at the end
maxrutc09 2 years ago 4
Ah, the man hasent been on screen at all, let his massive head get a touch of screen time :P
After all, if not for him, we wouldent of had Four Wonderful years of Battlestar...
MegaManX1415 2 years ago 2
What I loved best about the series is its all left open, what is this 'god?' Are Starbuck, Caprica Six, and Baltar really angels? And then the whole thing with "you know it doesn't like being called that." I mean is it really a supernatural being or an alien mastermind. The show leaves it entirely up to you. FANTASTIC!
RapidCityJM 2 years ago 5
@RapidCityJM Yep. The thing that never ceases to amaze me are how many hateful atheists despise this ending because they consider it a "deus ex machina" or that "god did it." Truth is, Dirk Benedict doesn't step out from behind the curtain and says "I am GOD and I did this." It is reasonable to consider that all this could have just been a coincidence. There is no way to know for sure. :)
HisDivineShadow245 2 years ago
@HisDivineShadow245 Exactly!
RapidCityJM 2 years ago
I do see it as a deus ex machina ending. Whether they left God open to interpretation is beside the point. They still used God as a vague, all-purpose, magic solution to the complex questions and supernatural events preceding the final episode. People who tuned in hoping to finally figure out what was going on didn't really learn anything.
That said, I did enjoy the series in general for its truthful writing, excellent acting, and serious take on science fiction.
Orthiel 2 years ago 3
@Orthiel To me, the ending was much more powerful than if they had wrapped it up perfectly with a nice little bow on it.
In real life all the questions dont get answered and when one seemingly terribly painful and important chapter of life closes, youre left with nothing at all...except the possibility to start over from nothing.
Like life this series ended with an ever present question with only one answer...
Where are we going?
Forward...we hope
labartic 2 years ago 3
Baltar did basically answer the religious thing. On Galactica, with Cavil. He gave a scientific, logical reason why evolution at some point demanded a leap of faith.
One leap of faith that was ultimately failed because people were still yet incapable of letting go of their hate for each other.
xslithsx 2 years ago 3
God is as much an idea as a physical thing. It's in human nature to want more, to want to know more, to want to be more than we are, to want to turn to someone higher up. God's a mystery, not the beardy guy the churches propagate. Wherever he is, God's laughing himself stupid at our stupid ideas about life, the universe and him.
the81kid 2 years ago 3
After Caprica finishes ide love to see a BSG sequel series set in our future where we go out into space and discover whats left of the twelve colonies and what not. ^^
MrRobertSama 2 years ago 2
@MrRobertSama that would kick some much ass..what would be left?
1479242009 2 years ago
A lot of Cylons with looooooong memories. ^^
MrRobertSama 2 years ago
@MrRobertSama we'd probably find the long lost colonials left on new caprica, plus the descendants of that dog the resistance left as well lol
islanumblar 2 years ago
@MrRobertSama I just watched the end last night. I was hoping that they built cities and all so they could reboot it with another battlestar. My dreams have been shattered. We can only hope of a prequel BSG like season 5 taking place in the first cylon war.
JNJmachinima 1 year ago
Personally im hoping for a sequel series set in our future.
MrRobertSama 1 year ago
@MrRobertSama Maybe... But THESE characters are just brilliant I love them all. Maybe they could do a lost episode type of thing. I just cannot get over this show. Watched the ending last Saturday and was blown away.
JNJmachinima 1 year ago
@MrRobertSama BSG the next gen! lol
NHPJUNE 1 year ago
@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
irishprice 1 year ago
@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
irishprice 1 year ago 4
@irishprice I've always thought that Battlestar owed a large debt to the Babylon 5 series, for being able to just tell a story - however the director / writers wanted to. It seems to me Ron Moore would have had a lot harder time had Joe Stracinsky not done his work.
proadmin1 1 year ago 4
So true, my friend. So true.
Ennio444 1 year ago
Might take that as another salvo in the ongoing feud between Deep Space 9--Ron Moore's other noteworthy series--and Babylon 5. ;)
SuperSaiyanAl 1 year ago
@SuperSaiyanAl Not at all I just think that the Hollywood machine would not have indulged that if Babylon 5 hadn't been consistently profitable. Even though it was canceled twice, and had a small viewership, they made money because Stracinski made it as cost-effectively as possible. BSG, too had it's moments of confrontation with that machine (ala the inspiration for the story behind "1000th Landing" episode), Good art it seems whether B5, BSG or ST has to escape almost by accident.
proadmin1 1 year ago
You mean the mini-arc where Kara has to get over her guilt over accidentally killing Zak? If that was the result of executive meddling, then it was a good one at least.
I was thinking more along the lines of the third season, where the executives forced the producers to do more stand-alone episodes, creating loose ends and story threads that never got wrapped up.
SuperSaiyanAl 1 year ago
@SuperSaiyanAl Actually, as I understand it the explosion in the fighter bay / 1000th landing scene was inspired by the insistence that BSG did not have enough "feel good" moments, and they should have a "celebration story" arc of some sort. The explosion was Mr. Moore's way of saying FU to the folks at the corporate,but the desire to screw with BSG became ALOT more focused after that, and the end of 3rd sea. was almost last , corporate viewed the writers strike as a great reason to kill BSG.
proadmin1 1 year ago
@proadmin1 that was one of the major reasons for the "cylon" Earth episode, had the show been canceled prematurely.
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@MrRobertSama id like 2 see more of BSG but a: that will never happen. b: dont you think it would just fail in comparisson! it would just be money hoaring
irishprice 1 year ago
watch Caprica.
captaincmorgan 1 year ago
@captaincmorgan But there is no battlestar! The characters I knew and loved are gone!
JNJmachinima 1 year ago
@JNJmachinima I know what you mean, its not nearly as good :( I'm sticking it out though, hoping it'll get better. I've started watching 6 feet under and rewatching BTVS to fill the void
captaincmorgan 1 year ago
@JNJmachinima Have you not seen Caprica?
A7XRules4life 1 year ago
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dude, they were devils, it was outrighted when they said God & then they said you know he does not like hearing that name & that is the devil from the bible.
tresorXXXXXX 2 years ago
They were NOT devils.
Word of God *The producers, not the inshow god* SAID they were angels....When they said 'You know he dosent like that name' they were refering to the fact he dosent like being CALLED a GOD....That dosent automatically make him the Devil. It means most likley whatever the higher power was...it simply dosent like the title of 'God' for whatever reason....
NOTHING else implicates that it was the Devil....Not a single bloody thing other then your 'Hurr Not god must be evil'...
MegaManX1415 2 years ago 20
@MegaManX1415 This analysis makes sense. The truth is that people nowadays banter GOD's name so much and use it to stereotype and justify so many different things that probably have nothing to do with whatever greater power may have orchestrated these events.
I'd bet anything that whatever the power may have been, it is probably nothing like what people expect the colloquial "God" to be, hence the dislike of what it now regards as an unworthy epithet.
HisDivineShadow245 2 years ago
@HisDivineShadow245
I think you just made the most sensible religious themed comment I've ever read on YouTube. Just felt like I should share that. Cheers. ;3
TheRealBlackPuma 2 years ago
You get a thumbs up for saying "Hurr" in your rebuttal. XD
DarthCannabis 2 years ago
Also, Thank you Darth. I always try and use intresting phrases ^_^
MegaManX1415 2 years ago
ya well look at all the bad things that ppl have done in god or gods names....probaly why it doesnt like it
darthkarr 2 years ago
A very good reason to not want that name associated with him..whatever he may be...
MegaManX1415 2 years ago
@MegaManX1415 not true. their are loads of very subtle things that imply alot. Its up to the viewer to decide for him.herself what they mean. The 6 allways has on red clothes. They HATE! Kara Thrace.... who was one of the only characters that stayed completely loyal to the gods throughout the show! even after she had her weird died/came back from earth thing.
irishprice 1 year ago
@MegaManX1415 precisly..the name god, gods, angels and so on are just the human perception of whatever the force was...whoever the dungbrain that thought it was the devil by cybergaius´ comment is a moron that obviously didnt pay attention to the show
darthkarr 1 year ago
thats the thing bout the reimagined series...it speaks about every subject that its jsut so easy to base in todays world
darthkarr 2 years ago
I was glad that Baltar came to terms with himself at the end of the show.
smcneal057 2 years ago
He was such a weasel! But he was very good at not doing anything explicitly evil, he always seemed more of a coward and narcissistic than a bad guy.
the81kid 2 years ago
That is true, but in the end he came to grips with it. Baltar maned up and grew out of that. That is what I like about him.
smcneal057 2 years ago 2
@the81kid Everyone found it easy to dislike baltar, but he was the most human person on the show. Selfish, weak, fearful. There arent many real Adama's or Starbucks or Helo's. There are lots of baltars out there.
I thought he was the most interesting character, and most amusing.
labartic 2 years ago 5
@labartic I think Baltar was also the bit of comedy the show needed.
JNJmachinima 1 year ago
@labartic
he was very interesting. and someone you love to hate!
the81kid 1 year ago
@labartic absolutely. My friends and family who also enjoy the show HATE Baltar. I never once hated him. He was absolutley the most Human of any character I've ever seen on any show I think. James Callis is brilliant, and I'd never heard of him before this show. I can easily see myself making many of Baltar's decision's and mistakes myself if I were in his shoes.
yarealpoof 1 year ago
3:22 - Most beautiful melody in the world
ErrolSaid 2 years ago 2
I love the apparitions. Giaus and Six's bizarre alternate "angels" that haunt their opposite. They are so different from one another too.
SoManySkinks 2 years ago
So say we all!
SoManySkinks 2 years ago 2
hey now! i was talking about the song and the series from the start. then everyone took it upon themselves to shoot me down for having opinions. bear mccreary is just awesome.
quinchichi 2 years ago
Rawr....
Quick every one jump into the swirling pool of political issues and dont even bother to say how good this song is, or how good Mceary is. its ok just talk about how similar bsg is to modern life... its cool... totaly normal...
DRienecker 2 years ago 7
I've noticed that too... Why WHY do they do that!?
Unitronus 2 years ago
I agree, but some people are to lazy to find an acceptable forum elsewhere, so they annoy post here instead, admittably there are some interesting points brought up, but there has to be a better place for them
leoben777 2 years ago
again, not my fault. some people were trying to shoot me down for having my own goshdarned opinions. though i suppose you're right. i could've picked a better place for a forum fight.
quinchichi 2 years ago
not my fault, dude. people got all up in arms, i reacted. according to them, im not allowed to have my own opinions.
quinchichi 2 years ago
All of this has happened before but the question still remains does all of this have to happen again? It is a question that looks like to be answered soon enough I mean look how far we have come in computer technology and all, lets hope it does not happen the way it is portrayed in Galactica and maybe we can learn things from it.
mart270 2 years ago