The Next Fire and a Primitive Vessel Part 1

[lotzoso]

Dave

I am most impressed by you because even after getting the big contract with the Dicovery Channel and Dual Survival...I sometimes wonder if it should be "Duel Suvival"...You still are very genuine and "common man". I appreciate that as well as many others watching your videos, I am sure.

You continue to teach.

Being from extreme northern Illinois (8 miles from Wisconsin) I enjoy the cold weather videos.

Great job, I wish the best for you,Iris and the kids.

Thanks for our support,

Jeff

[mogges1]

Will I guess it works but its 15 and your hand are freezing, Think I would find another option to build a fire with.

[TheW1zard12]

That was such a nice arrow point! Would any spark work ex battery, feral rod etc

[falsomknapper]

thank you; your the the man love it!!!!!!!

[grendelprime75]

Cool

[DesertFox9103]

That was cool. Dave is truely a Professor of Technolithic Studies...

[Kenshin1080]

do you have any vids on how to make a bow drill?

[teb0atoz]

Just a couple of questions 1) you said a RC of > 7. But the idea of using a piece of flint/chert is to shave off small peices of Iron from the high carbon steel blade/material. So I was not sure about this as I had never heard it put that way.

2) Friction methods seem a lot simpler.

But good video and tanacity.

cheers

[pichnoufblues]

Greetings Dave,

Speaking of tools: In a one-item configuration, dont you think a knife -even a good one- is sufficient?

My tool of choice would be an Ontario SP8 "machette". Did you ever test it? Only one mod i do is to make the 7 first centimeters of the blade (at the hand side) sharp as a razor and it is good to go.

It has ability to chop, cut, saw, dig, chisel, pry, hammerize... things easily. It's virtually indestructible; for a fair weigh, price and encombrement.

PapaLimaNovember!

[spb884]

Hey Dave, I too live in SE Ohio. I'm having a hard time finding flint and was wondering if you, or anyone on here could give me some clues as to what to look for.

[Rivieratime]

Good video Dave

[68wagoneer]

On a warm sunny day like that, couldn't a small magnifying glass be used to start the charcoal?

[KXrhyder547]

@68wagoneer Probably, but he was trying to use one tool (Pathfinder Knife) the whole time just to show that it can be done.

[68wagoneer]

Oh missed that part. ty

[flamedrag18]

your lucky, we nearly have no flint or chert in my area and low quality quartz, barely good enough for points, let alone sparking.

[TheMoviebuff77]

i was looking at the knives on your website and i was wonder if you could tell me the length of the blade on the mora sl2? great video

[TableT993]

hey good job a tip: put the knife in the ground. that way it wont knock about the charcoal. Great vids

[lynxtheneko]

true, but its also a good war to dull ur blade -.^

[frgtmygld]

This is a great series of videos. Thanks!

[weaselbear5]

Dave , the end of this vid is my favorite one...why???? cuz it took the spirit of the natives and your respect for them....

[SpamAccount009]

Nice artifact by the way, did you keep it?

[SpamAccount009]

Learned another trick, thanks Dave. I learn something from every video you upload.

[liketadied]

That artifact is freaking awsome

[ConditionRedDawn]

cool..it was really cool thinking that an indian used that piece of flint to make a an arrow head to hunt with...

[NaturalBushcraft]

Well done for persevering & getting it Dave. It's tricky work that, thanks for showing that it takes many attempts, lets people know its not easy and they shouldn't expect it to happen straight away. 5/5

[crazy4chickens]

what knife are you using to cut that log?

[chris34389]

pathfinder knife available on his website

[MrBillTroop73]

Im wondering if the charcoal pieces should be ground to a powder?

[winterskyshadow35]

I would think that just setting them in your bird's nest would do...you could even spark them to "life" inside the nest.

[MrBillTroop73]

Perhaps, but since a spark seems to catch best on the end grain, I figure, if its ground up, there would be tons of end grain to catch the spark?

[KunaiKnight]

hey Dave! i was wondering... how do you make those sticks into like straws for blowing air onto the fire.... thanks!!

[chris34389]

the stick is poke weed it is already hollow

[cityboygonewild22]

one tip dave, when you hit the spin with the flint it looks like you are hitting it at a 90 degree angle, try a much smaller angle like your trying to shave off the steel on the knife, because essentially thats what you are doing ( but you most likely knew that already) great video! 5/5

[thanson77]

That core needs a ton of shaping anyway to be a good producer again. Nice find Dave.

[kwstikas82]

i wonder wouldn't it be better if you cracked your charcoal in smaller pieces so you cover a wider area (and create more edges) and put it all on a large and smooth piece of wood? You step on the wood with your boot, then stick the knife point in the wood just above the charcoal area. Your knife would be more stable and closer to the coal...

[survivescotland2009]

another useful vid there dave,2 thigs,,,,first when you said u were making a cup i thought ohno hes goina think i copyed that for my vessel,thankfully it wasnt the same,secondly when you have got your first fire going a piec of horseshoe fungus will keep an ember

[keneyed209]

the suspense is killer

[maxinpains]

It's looks like looking at  Gay porn video. "a lookin' tough guy" blowing on a little twig with seriousness .... That's Very HOT. LMAO!

[kwstikas82]

did you have an erection, jerk?

[pranachimana]

You're obviously in the wrong place..... I think you meant to go to Chris Crockers page.

[maxinpains]

Nah! I really meant it. Ya think my eyes are too old to fake? What i'm watching is justa lookin' tough guy who is belong to the wrong side on men blowing a tiny straw tring to start a "already ignited charcoal" Am I Right? Soldier! NOW! GET DOWN! GIVE A FIFTY! NO! YOU! SAY! SIR! YES! SIR! SOLDIER! WHO TOLD YOU TO BE A FAKE MAN! They ain't belong to the U! S! A!  Military! AM I RIGHT? YOU SAY! YES! YES! SIR ! Soldier!

[pranachimana]

lol what?

[seanandfreddie1]

Top vid as always from Dave. The piece of flint was just so cool.I saw Ray Mears re-light the previous days fire with a spark onto some charred embers (same principle as dave shows here). On his vid he said that the coals covered with white powdery ash were the easiest to re-ignite with a spark. Just thought that might help those who have commented on grinding the charcoal into dust.

[bazzmond]

Nice clip. Interesting stuff.

Thanks for posting.

[bassfuryvi]

Thinking now..I'm off to see how easy charcoal lights from a ferro rod,lighter..would bow drilling in to a charred stump be more successful than softwood?I dunno?Dave gets you thinking again!!!

[kaziklu79]

Great video as always! I wasn't surprised that Dave made the fire, but am curios about the time. Also i must say that this knife is awesome :)

[bassfuryvi]

Been making charcoal for years for my wife/daughters atrwork,water filters and the forge but DAMN I never even heard of this!!Once again THE source of honest primitive skill/bushcraft information,Ray Mears is editted to fit in a 40 min program so can't show all the failed attempts,Brer Gyyyllrrs yeh well enuf said..Charcoal will been in my inventory for fire starting, you can store it in a tin like charcloth,if the 2nd day is rain this would be a saver!Thanks Dave!

[kedrek1]

Every day is a school day with Dave nice one

[MaxSafeheaD]

I doubt you even realised it at the time but that was as the most primitive sound @ 14:02!

[bassfuryvi]

HA HA ... ooh ooh ohohoh

[turbowilly12]

damn your good

[jimrbsn]

That was really cool. I didn't know charwood/coal would take a spark like that!

I recently started forging knives and making charcoal in small batches to feed my simple forge.

Once I get little bit better at making knives, I'd like to send you one to beat the crap out of so you can give me feedback!

Thanks for taking the time to make all these vids Dave!

[tankislarge]

Loved seeing the Flint Blade! that was very good. shame to use something with so much history.

I can watch you videos all day :-)

[SheepDoggOne]

~Very cool! Teaching primitive skills, with a flint stone directly used from a primitive native and successfully accomplishing a fire with it.

Now that was impressive! Seeing that demonstration work and thinking about the native that also used that flint for his reasons was almost magical to watch. Considering the years apart between these two mens lives, but using the same piece to work off. Very inspiring indeed.

5***** video with ease!

[surgicalshot]

I really like that knife. Looks like i am going to have to start saving up

[ZZOTH]

i did NOT know you could spark on charcoal like that. this is why i watch these videos. well done dave :)

[cattnipp]

Dude that whole thing was amazing.

[germanninja101]

I've heard of people "carrying" fire or live coals in a container lined with clay...like a primitive lighter

[Hefferman1]

Great job, getting the blade off the flint. Even better job getting the spark and coal for the fire.

Would more charcoal make it easier to catch a spark?

Would making a bowl and keeping fire in it be a better way to keep fire?

[tomfaranda]

Great stuff. A classic.

[wildernessoutfitters]

That's symantex man!

[LeonRFpoa]

@wildernessoutfitters lol Dave it's "Semantics"

[Vordark]

That flint core was an amazing find! Something like that would make my week.

[Prepare2Survive]

Other than certain kinds of dried fungi what else will catch a spark from a knappable stone? Would a stretched out and frayed piece of cotton t-shirt impregnated with something like pine sap, powdered birch bark shavings, powdered charcoal or maybe some kind of insect guts work? There has to be something else.

[pk066392]

could you use pine pitch to seal up cracks in a vessel or to you think it would melt in th water

[4770589]

amazing!!! 5/5*

[drumgodtim]

You are one tenacious son of a gun!!! You kept after that piece of charcoal until you had sparked it. Lesser person would have quit. Thanks for the lesson on how to make charcoal. What is tell tale sign of flint. How does one identify it from other rocks and gravel??? Thanks for the great lessons and vids!!!

[bmck1234]

you da man

[anyonefindAMERICA]

DAve, would it be easier to strike a spark if the knife had a file like back?

[Tpekron]

Making Bowls and such things in this fashion is so fun. It makes you feel like you made a real accomplishment. The first one I attempted I burned to far and got a hole burned in the would be bowl. I really appreciate your integrity and willingness to go all out. Keep up the good work and good luck in the outback!

[schnips074]

i almost have the shelter finished, still working on that stupid fire though

[Hissatsu5]

i like you demo on makeing the flint blade

[pranachimana]

You're crazy Dave.... that piece could have gone right through your hands holding it like that.

[wildernessoutfitters]

My hands are pretty tough brother, been knapp'en bare handed for a long time.

[pranachimana]

I got negatives for that comment? Wow man... anyone that has read a knapping book knows that bare hand knappin is dangerous.. Not like I was trying to sound like a (you know) but it really is dangerous. I know you been doin that for a while, but for beginers, it's really dangerous. My cousin can't move is pinky finger now because he wasn't using gloves with a piece of obsidian.. Just trying to help out with a little exp ya know?...

[teb0atoz]

@pranachimana Well obsidian is totally differant then flint/chert etc..... So yes you can do what he was doing but it would be better to use a pants leg etc... to hold the material.

[pranachimana]

@teb0atoz I agree. And I'm not saying you can't, although, I would not recommend it to a beginner. Safety is and should always be the number 1 priority in a self reliance situation.

[Jack70903]

@pranachimana i always knapp bare hand

[deroark]

Very cool find and very cool results.

[nicko978]

Good advice as always.

Thats a really cool find man!

I buried my firepit I hope I can find some coals under there so making my second fire will be easier.

[shampoovta]

thecustomart11

Below me here has a good idea about a vid on how to fined or identify flint.

I second that motion.

See how answers lead to questions?

:)

[slikshot6]

hell dave, even with that dissapointment from last time man o man this and last video was a video jam packed full of sheer primitive awsomeness.

[love1to1fish]

master:))

[Cameron1942]

Thanks for another great video. One question came to my mind. Would it be possible to grind the charcoal into a fine dust? Would it be then easier to get a spark to light it?

[wildernessoutfitters]

According to my Buddy Crittr' It does catch easier but because it does not bind like a wood coal it is hard to transfer to a tinder bundle,

[bassfuryvi]

Thanks for the info Dave,dust catches easier but a pig to move I'll have a play to find the optimum size of grain..again The Master!

[measuredstep]

Nice find in the creek.that was some fine knapping there Dave;)

[nickbownz]

Very good lesson today, as always I can't wait for part 2!

[Paulie771]

Looking forward to part 2.

[CrazyCaper23]

+1 dave.. keep em coming big guy

[swehank1]

Nice Dave! Success! =)

[ryanjd2006]

dave, do you think you could do a video on identifying flint? i live in TN and have rocks everywhere in my creeks and so forth but i dont have a clue on how to identify a flint stone. . . thanks

-Ryan

[haha48]

just pick random rocks up and hit it agianst metal and worse comes to worse.. just throw rocks at other rocks to break them then try the sharp end.. I learned how to make flint at age 5 just messing around smashing rocks.. some even spark throwing rocks because some rocks have metal inside of them.. which I thought was cool.. then some guy saw me doing it and showed me how to flint nap he was some old guy that did it as a hoby

[oneonebravo11B]

I can't wait to get home and watch your videos everyday. Your better than Glenn Beck.

[flytyer232]

mabey you could make an another blabe from that flint with some type of chisel, like for wood working, and make an arrow head.

thanks,

[WeCanAllGetAllong]

A fine job explaining man. Great find too.and thanks for the learning session!

[spamllpitdept]

edit- what I mean is the sparker + wheel ... not the actual lighter with lighter fluid etc

[spamllpitdept]

Can I just use a Bic lighter as my fire instrument?

[orisrhy]

awesome vid man, the next time im in the woods im gonna try making fire with a bowdrill, and, when i have it going (its hard, but lets stay positive) im gonna try to make a vessel of some sorts. this way looks pretty interesting.

[iBucalov]

thanks