That one such scene in a mere film could move me so powerfully speaks to the pure genious of not only Tolkein but the entire cast & crew of LOTR, all of whom gifted us with a true masterpiece!
Samwise is my most favorite character. He's got such amazing lines. His stout heart and loyalty, kindness, everything about him is just simply wonderful. Out of all the characters he (and Gandalf too) had some of the greatest quotes from the books//movies. This particular scene always has me crying my eyes out. Not only is his words true to their story, but they are true about life in general. Which is why this quote hits me so hard. No matter what evil may come, its only a passing thing.
There is good in this world that’s worth fighting for! As we look back on 9-11, I hope we remember not just the nightmare full of death and an unbelievable evil, but I hope we remember how our country came together in our time of greatest need to fight for the good in this world. I hope we remember all the heroes that could have run from the burning buildings, but they didn’t. They kept going. That’s what I want to remember about 9-11.
I have hope that all the troubles and sadness of this world can be washed away in a flood, and then new emotions may grow from this chance to begin again. I am so... so... tired of it being a hope. I wish it would be a reality, rather than a hope.
Hobbits represent the naivety we have in all of us. They are the embodiment of our childhood fantasies that everything is going to be good and perfect in the future and the larger picture should not be worried about. If they watched this video they wouldn't argue about philosophy. They would see the beauty in what Sam is saying and feel emotional. They would see Smeagol's face and see the good in his eyes. They would see the changes in Frodo from what he once was and cry. I <3 hobbits so much.
Well, I got that good feeling again watching Captain America. Set in WW2 it reminded me of a time people worked hard and had that 'can do' attitude about their country. The same good feeling that I got watching and listening to Sam.
God damn. This movie was outstanding. Forget all these people arguing. I wanna watch this video, and feel something. a little spark of emotion. And I feel it.
I'm watching this afer the riots in Vancouver over the canucks loss. This is one of those things that really sticks with you, that we need to remember. There IS good in this world, and it's worth fighting for.
Though I heartily despise the very concept of a happy end as it is opposed to tragedy (every rule has an exception and so the happy return of Odysseus and the acquittal of Orestes by Athena do not change the general concept) and due to its measureless overuse of late I will forgive Tolkien and the movie fools the happy end of Lord of the Ring; as the story is to beautiful and an illustrious poof that even today fine art could be created if the artists and writers would be willing to do so!
@FireEyedMaidOfWar You seem to be very apprised of the Arts. Interesting to hear from someone from France on June 6th as well. Isn't a happy ending in perspective in a tragedy? The only reason it's defined a "Tragedy" is because generally the writers and it's readers normally would rather have a happy ending to their liking. Otherwise it wouldn't BE a tragedy. Technically (which i disagree with) the opposite of tragedy is comedy. Even in comedies there are disasters and then happy endings.
@firejack007: Are you referring to that puny landings of the Americans and their English lackeys in 1944? Well, I would not call it a tragedy but the Germans had certainly to learn that unless one has enough ammunition ready one is likely to be overrun by the mass assaults of the Americans; and the opposite of tragedy is comedy, ever since the days of the Greeks, when Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides did define tragedy while Aristophanes and Menander created the comedy.
@firejack007: And since tragedy depicts real life events a lot more (and serious myths) it does not have a happy end very often just look at Shakespeare’s best tragedies like Macbeth, Coriolanus, Julius Caesar or Anthony & Cleopatra for example; but I think I should send you a Nietzsche quote about the whole matter of tragedy, since Nietzsche can explain things a lot better than I do.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Many times we laugh at the disaster and are sad at the "happy ending" (because the happy ending could be departure, separation or even a person going off to Heaven. Many would not call the end of LOTR a happy ending since Frodo departs his friends. It all depends on what you the reader (watcher) enjoys. Since you enjoy a "Tragedy" over a happy ending is it really a tragedy? lol (play on words, sry)
@FireEyedMaidOfWar But its not a "happy" ending. The movie has a generally happy ending, but in the book, Frodo never gets to rejoin the world he fought to save. It is the downfall of the hero; even in triumph, they will be alone. This is something that went back to Tolkien's love of mythology, where the hero never finds the rest they deserve. You seem to only be interested in Greek tragedy, but in the Norse sense, the lingering of the hero is much worse than anything else.
@RIPCityBeav: I think the ending of the book and the movie is quite similar but I would have to look it up; though I am pretty sure that the two ring bearers Frodo and Bilbo did journey to the undying lands; and I know of no Norse tales about lingering heroes, even Beowulf dies fighting a dragon. Norse tales never made the development of the Greeks to transfer the heroic struggle in the soul of the hero, they had always to fight with outer enemies, or else I have read the Edda wrongly.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The ending of the book and movie are similar, but completely exclude the Scourging, and the Appendices tell a much broader story, including the Battle or Mirkwood. And of course a lot is lost in the movie translation.
@RIPCityBeav: Is that the battle which the Northern humans and dwarfs fight to save Rivendell and about which Gandalf/Tolkien said that else King Aragorn would have no queen? I believe some of the folks form The Hobbit fight in it; and I remember that Aragorn and Eomer – a name adopted from Beowulf – did have to fight many wars against the vestiges of Sauron’s armies and that Aragorn was King in all Middle Earth except the realm of Rohan.
@Lilithly: But all comes to good: The One Ring is destroyed and the Dark Lord defeated, Aragorn and Arwen marry and have children, the Elves journey to the undying lands and so on; but I cried too when seeing the film though not here but when the villages of Rohan are under attack and the mother brings her daughter and son on the horse so that they might escape the Orc onslaught; and I do really seldom cry when seeing a movie or watching a play (actually I rejoice at Richard III).
@FireEyedMaidOfWar don´t mention shakespeare - he can write tragedies and i still like them, though i really hate stories with sad endings... but seeing how frodo can´t live in the shire anymore and how sam is left behind is just too much for me. ^^;
@Lilithly: Dear me! What would you do if Genghis Khan or Attila the Scourge of God with their infernal hordes would invade your country and molten human fat flow through the streets of your once flourishing cities? Always remember: You live in this earthly world; where to do harm is often laudable, to do good sometime accounted dangerous folly and no Shakespeare couldn’t write proper tragedies, just compare his works to Aeschylus or Sophocles to see the difference.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar mh. you seem to be quite the showoff. i could try to talk with you about Kim Bu-sik , Goethe or Lee Cheong Jun - but i don´t , cause i want us to be on the same level to continue a normal talk (which is what conversation is actually about) but you seem to want to talk about your *perfect* opinion and your "knowledge". it´s kind of hard to talk to you. when you compare the parting of frodo and sam with attila the hun than you obviously didn´t get what i was talking about.
@Lilithly: Let the end try me and you should by no means start talking with me about Goethe since I admire him very much and could be tempted to quote Nietzsche; and I don’t think that there is any such understanding here as if someone cannot endure the end of a tale due to the fact that the hero can no longer dwell in his native home but has to travel to the undying lands I cannot imagine that such a tender hearted person could endure the terrifying reality of a Mongol invasion.
what is with all these people yammering on about politics and philosophizing and crap. Samwise Gamgee is the greatest hero who ever lived and this is one of the most glorious speeches of all time and that's all there is to it. Samwise doesn't give two shits about your shitty politics or opinions. Keep that shit out of my LOTR!
@jestiferjames There's no politics here. People, including you, have a right express their opinion. And Samwise Gamgee doesn't exist. He never "lived" as you put it. (which is bothersome) He's fictional. He's not a hero or can he care about anything. What the character is, is a reflection of what real human hero's emotions and actions tend to be. The character, as J.R.R. Tolkien wanted to project, reminds us that while we don't like what goes on in this world, that good is worth fighting for.
@medievalgirl002 Tolkien was a very good historian, but most of the works he wrote about/translated/studied were from the Dark Ages, due chiefly to his love of mythology. He did do some with the Middle Ages (most notably his version of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight).
@RIPCityBeav I think you are confusing things a little. The Phrase 'Dark Ages' refers to the Time Period of about the fifth, to the Eleventh century AD, This period is also counted as Early Medieval. In Briatain at least the Medieval Period is generally regarded to have begun shortly after the Roman 'left' in ad 410 and continued until the Late Fiteenth-Early Sixteenth century. Therefore it is quite legitimate for a person who studies the early part of this period to be called a Medievalist.
@RIPCityBeav Also, I would say that the phrase 'Dark Ages' is out of favour with Historians who study this period, because it implies that the people who lived at this time were stupid, ignorant, uncivilised, barbarian savages and we know that they were none of those things. They were violent certainly, but not unsophisticed or uneducated.
When you think about it,what people really want is no evil, nothing bad, nothing wrong with the world. What most people don't think about is what would happen if there wasnt any. The world would be perfect, there would be nothing to conquer. If we acheived being a perfect world it would be meaningless. Im NOT saying that bad things SHOULD happen. I'm saying that we try to be better and some don't but we try and that's the most important thing
The fact that we can hate makes our love stronger.
I think that it's a great fallacy that good and evil are intertwined and without one there can't be the other (sorry if this offends.) Good exists free and dependent of all evil, imagine a world without sin as it was in the garden of Eden. Evil can only leach off and try to destroy good. God will destroy all evil. A world without any good would be a self-destructive nightmare. Also evil loves to try and cover itself up and pretend while good just becomes more and more like itself.
I am a Christian and Tolkien is my absolute favorite author of all time. C. S. Lewis comes in second. This scene, is so powerful but it can relate to a problem that many people have today is the assumption that evil is so powerful that it can dominate forever. In truth as Sam said evil is just a passing thing and it's only pleasure lies in frustrating good for as long as effectively possible. Let's all fight the good fight, run the good race, and fight for the good in the world.
this scene inspires me sooo. my life really isnt the best atm, not looking good. but then i realize that i do have something.. my family, that cares for me, no matter what. and thats the good in this world for me, like sam said. even smeagol felt like he wanted to feel happyness again, and erased evil gollum just a for moment.
The stories that mattered... LOTR is one of them, for me. I first saw them When I was 6 and didn't understand them but knew they were brilliant and after not seeing them for two years and watching this, now I understand why. Why should the heroes win: not because they're smarter, not because they're stronger, not because they're more powerful, they should beat the villian simply because they're heroes something modern fiction seems to have forgotten. (I'm looking at you, Twilight).
ALL countries have problems and commit crimes. Yes, even the great US of A and western countries. Real change, good change happens not from those in power but from people like Sam and Frodo, the Aragorns, the Gandalfs, the Legolases (hope that makes sense), the Gimlis, the hobbits and elves of this world. The people who care what happens to their neighbor and try to help them.
@YourOasis97 I guess I would relate the Aragorns, Gandalfs, Legolases and Gimilis as the soldiers of our time. I hope no one takes this wrong but from 2001 to 2008 someone said they would take the responsibility of a great burden. He was hated, chastised, chased, attacked but stayed the course. If you recall in Fellowship of the Ring, they rose (against the evil of theirs) to say "you shall have my sword... my bow....my axe". Same as what our current day soldiers have said.
@YourOasis97 Real change, good change happens not from those in power but from people like Sam and Frodo, the Aragorns, the Gandalfs, the Legolases (hope that makes sense), the Gimlis, the hobbits and elves of this world
everyone you listed have great power.... frodo has the fucking most powerful ring... aragon and legolas are strong warriors... gandolf is one of the most powerful wizards...
@YourOasis97 and when the chips are down, like we see during natural disasters, unrest, etc. the vast majority of people band together and look out for each other. A lot of people dont think that exists anymore, at least in the US, but its buried deep within most of us, just waiting for the right moment to come out. A comforting thought, thats all
There's a little bit of truth in both of your comments. Sorry to say there isn't anywhere on this planet that there isn't good and evil. There are no real secular countries. All countries have their laws based on religion and their people do worship. We still have our hatreds and crimes. Even Israel and many Muslim countries are in the same situation. The problem in the Middle East, not unlike LOTR, is there are dark forces that wish to overpower others.
@firejack007 Agreed. It just irritates me when someone claims people who aren't religious are somehow "evil" or "barbaric" unlike people who actually believe in god.
@firejack007 the thing that people dont seem to realize is tht without Good there will never be evil and without evil there never will be good because hw can u compare 1 of thm if u dont have the total and equal opposite
@winash10 Have to disagree here. Without Good, everything is Evil. I understand for semantics, you need one to define the other, for Evil is just the term for 'non-good'.
@winash10 its a complex subject to which 1 can never find a true answer because without good bad wont be there nor without bad good wont be there either so y dnt we both agree tht we need 1 to recognize the other ?
@firejack007 I don't know why, possibly because I'm a medievalist, but I always find myself relating this story tp events in History, like the struggle of King Alfred the Great. All his brothers died in battle against an enemy that had conquered almost all of the Saxon lands, and he was nearly defeated too. I am sure he felt like this many times, but something kept him going, and drove him to keep fighting to preserve and defend his kingdom, people and civilisation.
@medievalgirl002 Interesting, i've never heard that term before "medievalist". It's good that you are into Historical events. I think you'll find that these words have a basis in many conflicts in History.
*sigh* Good speech. People shouldn't be sad. People in Afghanistan, Pakistan, America, Brazil... so many people with no houses, food, medical problems who aren't can't do anything about it. No body is naturally bad, and no human deserves to be sad. Everyone should think twice next they're sad to see if it is really all that bad.
@Opo227 all good morals come from Almighty God. Evil people are those mid-guided by the evil one satan. You look at countries which are secular and generally don't believe in God = more crime and a sad state of affairs socially. But they are too arrogant to admit it.
@aerandir4 Your ignorance and intolerance appalls me. All secular countries suck and all religious countries are awesome? Yeah that's why secular places like Britain, France, Denmark etc are doing so terribly right? And why places like Iran (Islam) Israel (Judaism) or Bosnia (Christianity) are doing so fabulous. Whatever.
i remember i was writing an english essay and for some reason i was thinking "and when then sun shines, it will shine out the clearer" i spent 3 hours looking up Lord of the Rings quotes etc... only Lord of the Rings can do that to me :D
i saw this movie when i was younger and i hated the frodo and sam part because i just wanted to see the battles. now that i rewatched the movies. i came to realize how great their story line was. this scene is amazing. when he says darkness passes you see the Ents defeating isengard and Theoden in helms deep declaring victory. such a beauitful scene. sean austin deserved an oscar for this role as Samwise the Brave :)
Not meaning to seem so up myself when I say this; but, when times get tough, and i'm on my own, I imagine myself as everything that's happening to me as "this shadow" and for me to keep on going, holding onto something. "that there's some good in this world, and it worth fighting for"!!
FOR THE SHIRE PIPPIN!!!!!!! I just have no idea how I would survive without it. XD
@nothinbuthax Everyone has those times and even though they may not think the exact words, they do get the idea that this world is still good and there is always a tomorrow. Hang in there.
you cannot compare yourself to this fantasy world idiot. lotr is an epic battle and your so called ''shadow'' is probably your girlfriend leaving you or that kind of boring stuff. do not compare your dull life with this please.
@izzy0210 "Not meaning to seem so up myself when I say this;" - I do know that my 'shadow' isn't like the film's storyline. Just thought i'd mention how this film means alot to me. If that makes me an idiot, then fuck you bitch! :)
@izzy0210 Stories like Lord of The Rings are written for people to relate to. Just because this story is full of monsters and magic doesn't mean it can't be translated into every day problems. That's how you know when a story is really good, and that it is timeless. Because it speaks to it's reader/viewer on a personal level and evokes emotion in us. Truth be told you don't know what people are going through. For you to belittle this persons struggles is really down right idiotic.
@izzy0210 Did you really just call ME stupid and then say "right" a response?? Really?
It's so interesting that someone who can't use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation can sit there and tell me why Tolkien wrote what he wrote. Learn to WRITE properly and then come talk to me about literature. Dunce.
That is so true. I love that scene, so heart-felt and wonderful. Even Gollum/Smeagol, felt the the message inside him. For once, I think he felt sorry for all his bad doings and such. I will add this to my favorites and watch it once every day! LOL, soo good!
You all should watch the commentaries on the Special Extended DVD edition, well at least the cast's commentary. (I know it is really long) My goal is to watch one commentary for all three extended versions a year.
Sometimes when I listen to this, I feel like it was being said to all of us, not just Frodo. I always feel heartened by it, especially in these times.
@Masiakasaurus i think that's the point. If this speech is from the book, I think Tolkien meant to send that message to his readers, not just Frodo. If not, its damn good message that the movie sent.
@Izanguard1 You all have to remember that J.R.R. Tolkien wrote these 3 books during all the strife that was going on in the world in the late 1930's and 1940's. So ya maybe Tolkien was sending a message to all of us "that there's some good in this world and it's worth fighting for". A message, btw, that is still true today.
@swanarrow I hope someone doesn't take off from these movies some radical political message trying to understand the terrorist viewpoint or something like that, equating "evil" capitalists and their twin towers. Cause this was written during World War II. Read Wikipedia on LOTR, it's very interesting.
@firejack007 I hope so too. but for those of you out there, Nah there is no political message its just that 9/11 influenced what the actors and the directors put in this film, moving lines from the other book to the 2nd film. Just a random depressing thought -Tolkien fought in WW1 and was still alive when WW II came about, so pretty much the fathers fight in one war only to send their sons into the next - so sad. sad, all our wars been like that ever since WW1
@RickyPrescott yes but they were filming it during 2001. If you doubt me go watch the cast's commentaries on the Special Extended DVD edition of the Two Towers.
@swanarrow they were written in 40's....PUBLISHED in 50's...and im denying the fact of any coincidence between the destruction of the world trade center and a movie based off a book written before the world trade center existed happening around the same time
@goofball33 Let me get this straight. You think that the Twin Towers and the quote from the Two Towers movie are NOT a coincidence, that it was set up? I am confused. Are you saying they have nothing to do with each other? If that is what you are saying you should of read what I said earlier. I was just explaining that they moved that quote, which was supposed to be in the third film (The quote is from the third book), to the Two Towers because of what happened to the Twin Towers. To help people
@swanarrow okay well i agree with that. i thought you were trying to say that the idea of the "two towers" was created from the world trade center. sorry for the mix up.
@swanarrow lol it makes sense havent u seen the movie "knowing" maybe jrr tolken got hold of the list and decided to call lord of the rings after a terrorist attack hmmm seems possible
@clarkyownsyou lol maybe. He said that during WW1 he was always asking himself - why are we doing this anyway? That is where he got inspired for that quote. That whats he said, though he may have known after he got hold of the list. hehe :)
One of the reasons why they moved Sam's speech to the end of Two Towers was because 9/11 just happened, to help people cope with their family/friends deaths. Also they put the suicide bomber Uruk-hai, in Helm's Deep from what happened in 9/11.
Okay, I'm crying now.
00cipher 1 month ago
Best. Speech. EVER!
UtenaOfRoses 1 month ago
That one such scene in a mere film could move me so powerfully speaks to the pure genious of not only Tolkein but the entire cast & crew of LOTR, all of whom gifted us with a true masterpiece!
PatrickDC202 2 months ago
best scene in LOTR, hands down.
jbfuzz777 2 months ago
Samwise is my most favorite character. He's got such amazing lines. His stout heart and loyalty, kindness, everything about him is just simply wonderful. Out of all the characters he (and Gandalf too) had some of the greatest quotes from the books//movies. This particular scene always has me crying my eyes out. Not only is his words true to their story, but they are true about life in general. Which is why this quote hits me so hard. No matter what evil may come, its only a passing thing.
Tess1061 3 months ago 9
@Tess1061 I'm glad I was able to get this online for you.
firejack007 3 months ago
@firejack007 Me too. -sniffle- :')
Tess1061 3 months ago
I think at last, we finally understand one another Frodo Baggins. :')
mizzfreakster96 4 months ago
cute.
KungfuMuythaiguy6 5 months ago
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND ITS WORTH FIGHTIN FOR!
ClutchClick 5 months ago
Well well, 240p... we meet again...
Friendo1231 6 months ago
@Friendo1231 Well, sorry. Difficult 4 years ago when I uploaded this.
firejack007 6 months ago 5
@firejack007 It's alright man.
Friendo1231 6 months ago
There is good in this world that’s worth fighting for! As we look back on 9-11, I hope we remember not just the nightmare full of death and an unbelievable evil, but I hope we remember how our country came together in our time of greatest need to fight for the good in this world. I hope we remember all the heroes that could have run from the burning buildings, but they didn’t. They kept going. That’s what I want to remember about 9-11.
ewjdobkkjg3791 6 months ago
don't you see frodo? chester copperpot never made it this far!
Huzzawful 6 months ago
I have hope that all the troubles and sadness of this world can be washed away in a flood, and then new emotions may grow from this chance to begin again. I am so... so... tired of it being a hope. I wish it would be a reality, rather than a hope.
Emmercedes 6 months ago in playlist Movie Moments
Hobbits represent the naivety we have in all of us. They are the embodiment of our childhood fantasies that everything is going to be good and perfect in the future and the larger picture should not be worried about. If they watched this video they wouldn't argue about philosophy. They would see the beauty in what Sam is saying and feel emotional. They would see Smeagol's face and see the good in his eyes. They would see the changes in Frodo from what he once was and cry. I <3 hobbits so much.
TheJackJacktheJack 7 months ago 3
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TheJackJacktheJack 7 months ago
sam is the best friend you could ever have.
IndayLancer 7 months ago 12
Well, I got that good feeling again watching Captain America. Set in WW2 it reminded me of a time people worked hard and had that 'can do' attitude about their country. The same good feeling that I got watching and listening to Sam.
firejack007 7 months ago
God damn. This movie was outstanding. Forget all these people arguing. I wanna watch this video, and feel something. a little spark of emotion. And I feel it.
mistabigshot1001 7 months ago
02:00 - 02:15 is my favourite quotation ever ;-)
milenyj666 7 months ago
"I can't do this, Sam." - He looks and sounds exactly how I felt on the low-point I had when working on my college degree.
shadowwolf41 8 months ago
His speech even made Gollum stop and think. RUDY!!!
ShingleStapler 8 months ago
0:55 catharsis !!!!
Blaze05100 8 months ago
2:25 "Lord of the Ring: The Twin Towers"
MissChelDorado 8 months ago
This video ends too soon.
TChanChinaMan 8 months ago
I'm watching this afer the riots in Vancouver over the canucks loss. This is one of those things that really sticks with you, that we need to remember. There IS good in this world, and it's worth fighting for.
FelixTheNomad 9 months ago
Though I heartily despise the very concept of a happy end as it is opposed to tragedy (every rule has an exception and so the happy return of Odysseus and the acquittal of Orestes by Athena do not change the general concept) and due to its measureless overuse of late I will forgive Tolkien and the movie fools the happy end of Lord of the Ring; as the story is to beautiful and an illustrious poof that even today fine art could be created if the artists and writers would be willing to do so!
FireEyedMaidOfWar 9 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar You seem to be very apprised of the Arts. Interesting to hear from someone from France on June 6th as well. Isn't a happy ending in perspective in a tragedy? The only reason it's defined a "Tragedy" is because generally the writers and it's readers normally would rather have a happy ending to their liking. Otherwise it wouldn't BE a tragedy. Technically (which i disagree with) the opposite of tragedy is comedy. Even in comedies there are disasters and then happy endings.
firejack007 9 months ago
@firejack007: Are you referring to that puny landings of the Americans and their English lackeys in 1944? Well, I would not call it a tragedy but the Germans had certainly to learn that unless one has enough ammunition ready one is likely to be overrun by the mass assaults of the Americans; and the opposite of tragedy is comedy, ever since the days of the Greeks, when Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides did define tragedy while Aristophanes and Menander created the comedy.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 9 months ago
@firejack007: And since tragedy depicts real life events a lot more (and serious myths) it does not have a happy end very often just look at Shakespeare’s best tragedies like Macbeth, Coriolanus, Julius Caesar or Anthony & Cleopatra for example; but I think I should send you a Nietzsche quote about the whole matter of tragedy, since Nietzsche can explain things a lot better than I do.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 9 months ago
@firejack007
lol you are funny :P. your comments remind me of sheldon from the big bang theory :P
izzy0210 8 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Many times we laugh at the disaster and are sad at the "happy ending" (because the happy ending could be departure, separation or even a person going off to Heaven. Many would not call the end of LOTR a happy ending since Frodo departs his friends. It all depends on what you the reader (watcher) enjoys. Since you enjoy a "Tragedy" over a happy ending is it really a tragedy? lol (play on words, sry)
firejack007 9 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar But its not a "happy" ending. The movie has a generally happy ending, but in the book, Frodo never gets to rejoin the world he fought to save. It is the downfall of the hero; even in triumph, they will be alone. This is something that went back to Tolkien's love of mythology, where the hero never finds the rest they deserve. You seem to only be interested in Greek tragedy, but in the Norse sense, the lingering of the hero is much worse than anything else.
RIPCityBeav 9 months ago
@RIPCityBeav: I think the ending of the book and the movie is quite similar but I would have to look it up; though I am pretty sure that the two ring bearers Frodo and Bilbo did journey to the undying lands; and I know of no Norse tales about lingering heroes, even Beowulf dies fighting a dragon. Norse tales never made the development of the Greeks to transfer the heroic struggle in the soul of the hero, they had always to fight with outer enemies, or else I have read the Edda wrongly.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 9 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The ending of the book and movie are similar, but completely exclude the Scourging, and the Appendices tell a much broader story, including the Battle or Mirkwood. And of course a lot is lost in the movie translation.
RIPCityBeav 9 months ago
@RIPCityBeav: Is that the battle which the Northern humans and dwarfs fight to save Rivendell and about which Gandalf/Tolkien said that else King Aragorn would have no queen? I believe some of the folks form The Hobbit fight in it; and I remember that Aragorn and Eomer – a name adopted from Beowulf – did have to fight many wars against the vestiges of Sauron’s armies and that Aragorn was King in all Middle Earth except the realm of Rohan.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 9 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar ? i don´t think it has a hapy ending..i always cry at the end....;-;
Lilithly 8 months ago
@Lilithly: But all comes to good: The One Ring is destroyed and the Dark Lord defeated, Aragorn and Arwen marry and have children, the Elves journey to the undying lands and so on; but I cried too when seeing the film though not here but when the villages of Rohan are under attack and the mother brings her daughter and son on the horse so that they might escape the Orc onslaught; and I do really seldom cry when seeing a movie or watching a play (actually I rejoice at Richard III).
FireEyedMaidOfWar 8 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar don´t mention shakespeare - he can write tragedies and i still like them, though i really hate stories with sad endings... but seeing how frodo can´t live in the shire anymore and how sam is left behind is just too much for me. ^^;
Lilithly 8 months ago
@Lilithly: Dear me! What would you do if Genghis Khan or Attila the Scourge of God with their infernal hordes would invade your country and molten human fat flow through the streets of your once flourishing cities? Always remember: You live in this earthly world; where to do harm is often laudable, to do good sometime accounted dangerous folly and no Shakespeare couldn’t write proper tragedies, just compare his works to Aeschylus or Sophocles to see the difference.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 8 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar mh. you seem to be quite the showoff. i could try to talk with you about Kim Bu-sik , Goethe or Lee Cheong Jun - but i don´t , cause i want us to be on the same level to continue a normal talk (which is what conversation is actually about) but you seem to want to talk about your *perfect* opinion and your "knowledge". it´s kind of hard to talk to you. when you compare the parting of frodo and sam with attila the hun than you obviously didn´t get what i was talking about.
Lilithly 7 months ago
@Lilithly: Let the end try me and you should by no means start talking with me about Goethe since I admire him very much and could be tempted to quote Nietzsche; and I don’t think that there is any such understanding here as if someone cannot endure the end of a tale due to the fact that the hero can no longer dwell in his native home but has to travel to the undying lands I cannot imagine that such a tender hearted person could endure the terrifying reality of a Mongol invasion.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 7 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar jump off a bridge.
vesperus1981 7 months ago
@vesperus1981: Why should I play the Roman fool, and die on mine own sword? Whiles I see lives, the gashes do better upon them.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 7 months ago
what is with all these people yammering on about politics and philosophizing and crap. Samwise Gamgee is the greatest hero who ever lived and this is one of the most glorious speeches of all time and that's all there is to it. Samwise doesn't give two shits about your shitty politics or opinions. Keep that shit out of my LOTR!
jestiferjames 9 months ago
@jestiferjames There's no politics here. People, including you, have a right express their opinion. And Samwise Gamgee doesn't exist. He never "lived" as you put it. (which is bothersome) He's fictional. He's not a hero or can he care about anything. What the character is, is a reflection of what real human hero's emotions and actions tend to be. The character, as J.R.R. Tolkien wanted to project, reminds us that while we don't like what goes on in this world, that good is worth fighting for.
firejack007 9 months ago
Samwise Gamgee. You are my hero. There is no other way of putting it. Tears well up in my eyes every time i watch this.
ybngfz34 9 months ago
A 'medievalist' is a Historian who specialises in the Middle Ages, I believe Professor Tolkien was one as well.
medievalgirl002 9 months ago
@medievalgirl002 Tolkien was a very good historian, but most of the works he wrote about/translated/studied were from the Dark Ages, due chiefly to his love of mythology. He did do some with the Middle Ages (most notably his version of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight).
RIPCityBeav 9 months ago
@RIPCityBeav I think you are confusing things a little. The Phrase 'Dark Ages' refers to the Time Period of about the fifth, to the Eleventh century AD, This period is also counted as Early Medieval. In Briatain at least the Medieval Period is generally regarded to have begun shortly after the Roman 'left' in ad 410 and continued until the Late Fiteenth-Early Sixteenth century. Therefore it is quite legitimate for a person who studies the early part of this period to be called a Medievalist.
medievalgirl002 9 months ago
@RIPCityBeav Also, I would say that the phrase 'Dark Ages' is out of favour with Historians who study this period, because it implies that the people who lived at this time were stupid, ignorant, uncivilised, barbarian savages and we know that they were none of those things. They were violent certainly, but not unsophisticed or uneducated.
medievalgirl002 9 months ago
how can people dislike this?!<3
thelouuuuuuuu 10 months ago
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BloodySerpent 10 months ago
When you think about it,what people really want is no evil, nothing bad, nothing wrong with the world. What most people don't think about is what would happen if there wasnt any. The world would be perfect, there would be nothing to conquer. If we acheived being a perfect world it would be meaningless. Im NOT saying that bad things SHOULD happen. I'm saying that we try to be better and some don't but we try and that's the most important thing
The fact that we can hate makes our love stronger.
ObliviousToBeautiful 10 months ago
the 2 people who disliked this must be size-ist no question
CallumLBayz 10 months ago
Frodo was in slow motion when he states that he can't do it...
rrwryan 11 months ago
i would laugh if at 2:15 smeagol started crying
BlueDwarf2010 11 months ago
the idea is known as the Doppel Ganger effect. two sides or opposites create the full spectrum of society.
italianmachine1222 11 months ago
EPIC!
JXANOGP 11 months ago
I think that it's a great fallacy that good and evil are intertwined and without one there can't be the other (sorry if this offends.) Good exists free and dependent of all evil, imagine a world without sin as it was in the garden of Eden. Evil can only leach off and try to destroy good. God will destroy all evil. A world without any good would be a self-destructive nightmare. Also evil loves to try and cover itself up and pretend while good just becomes more and more like itself.
Amen
LordGodsServant 11 months ago 2
I am a Christian and Tolkien is my absolute favorite author of all time. C. S. Lewis comes in second. This scene, is so powerful but it can relate to a problem that many people have today is the assumption that evil is so powerful that it can dominate forever. In truth as Sam said evil is just a passing thing and it's only pleasure lies in frustrating good for as long as effectively possible. Let's all fight the good fight, run the good race, and fight for the good in the world.
Amen :)
LordGodsServant 11 months ago 6
I'm a Catholic and this speech always reminds me, to keep my faith and keep fighting for the good in this world.
SickOmega 11 months ago
even Gollum agrees with Sam.
111Lotrfan 11 months ago
Sam ... you're wonderful. :)
AshBiebsxo 11 months ago
this scene inspires me sooo. my life really isnt the best atm, not looking good. but then i realize that i do have something.. my family, that cares for me, no matter what. and thats the good in this world for me, like sam said. even smeagol felt like he wanted to feel happyness again, and erased evil gollum just a for moment.
Da1337Man 1 year ago
Dont you just love how golem is thinking "Awww shit... i feel bad. :/"
Cokeman4eva 1 year ago 3
The stories that mattered... LOTR is one of them, for me. I first saw them When I was 6 and didn't understand them but knew they were brilliant and after not seeing them for two years and watching this, now I understand why. Why should the heroes win: not because they're smarter, not because they're stronger, not because they're more powerful, they should beat the villian simply because they're heroes something modern fiction seems to have forgotten. (I'm looking at you, Twilight).
Dubzoomember 1 year ago 20
this is so beautiful
W0mb0l0gy 1 year ago
ALL countries have problems and commit crimes. Yes, even the great US of A and western countries. Real change, good change happens not from those in power but from people like Sam and Frodo, the Aragorns, the Gandalfs, the Legolases (hope that makes sense), the Gimlis, the hobbits and elves of this world. The people who care what happens to their neighbor and try to help them.
YourOasis97 1 year ago 19
@YourOasis97 I guess I would relate the Aragorns, Gandalfs, Legolases and Gimilis as the soldiers of our time. I hope no one takes this wrong but from 2001 to 2008 someone said they would take the responsibility of a great burden. He was hated, chastised, chased, attacked but stayed the course. If you recall in Fellowship of the Ring, they rose (against the evil of theirs) to say "you shall have my sword... my bow....my axe". Same as what our current day soldiers have said.
firejack007 1 year ago
@firejack007 what do you mean?
YourOasis97 1 year ago
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@YourOasis97 Real change, good change happens not from those in power but from people like Sam and Frodo, the Aragorns, the Gandalfs, the Legolases (hope that makes sense), the Gimlis, the hobbits and elves of this world
everyone you listed have great power.... frodo has the fucking most powerful ring... aragon and legolas are strong warriors... gandolf is one of the most powerful wizards...
maybe you do need power to change the world
lupinyonsei 11 months ago
@YourOasis97 and when the chips are down, like we see during natural disasters, unrest, etc. the vast majority of people band together and look out for each other. A lot of people dont think that exists anymore, at least in the US, but its buried deep within most of us, just waiting for the right moment to come out. A comforting thought, thats all
fergie123able 5 months ago
@fergie123able yes it is comforting to know.
YourOasis97 5 months ago
There's a little bit of truth in both of your comments. Sorry to say there isn't anywhere on this planet that there isn't good and evil. There are no real secular countries. All countries have their laws based on religion and their people do worship. We still have our hatreds and crimes. Even Israel and many Muslim countries are in the same situation. The problem in the Middle East, not unlike LOTR, is there are dark forces that wish to overpower others.
firejack007 1 year ago 3
@firejack007 Agreed. It just irritates me when someone claims people who aren't religious are somehow "evil" or "barbaric" unlike people who actually believe in god.
Resinator45 1 year ago
@firejack007 the thing that people dont seem to realize is tht without Good there will never be evil and without evil there never will be good because hw can u compare 1 of thm if u dont have the total and equal opposite
winash10 1 year ago
@winash10 Have to disagree here. Without Good, everything is Evil. I understand for semantics, you need one to define the other, for Evil is just the term for 'non-good'.
firejack007 1 year ago
@firejack007 maybe but without 'good' it self we wont be able to identify wat we kno as 'bad' so thn hw can we tell the difference between them
winash10 1 year ago
@winash10 its a complex subject to which 1 can never find a true answer because without good bad wont be there nor without bad good wont be there either so y dnt we both agree tht we need 1 to recognize the other ?
winash10 1 year ago
@firejack007 I don't know why, possibly because I'm a medievalist, but I always find myself relating this story tp events in History, like the struggle of King Alfred the Great. All his brothers died in battle against an enemy that had conquered almost all of the Saxon lands, and he was nearly defeated too. I am sure he felt like this many times, but something kept him going, and drove him to keep fighting to preserve and defend his kingdom, people and civilisation.
medievalgirl002 9 months ago
@medievalgirl002 Interesting, i've never heard that term before "medievalist". It's good that you are into Historical events. I think you'll find that these words have a basis in many conflicts in History.
firejack007 9 months ago
Doesn't matter if the situation you are in is awful, you are there. So just do the best you can.
TheT4xid3rmist 1 year ago
*sigh* Good speech. People shouldn't be sad. People in Afghanistan, Pakistan, America, Brazil... so many people with no houses, food, medical problems who aren't can't do anything about it. No body is naturally bad, and no human deserves to be sad. Everyone should think twice next they're sad to see if it is really all that bad.
Emmercedes 1 year ago
i was obsessed with lotr like 3 years ago. Haven't seen this in about two. seriously made me cry
augis93 1 year ago
Is Samwise not a character with good morals? Is there a belief in a supreme being in Middle Earth? Then who needs a supreme being to be moral?
Opo227 1 year ago
@Opo227 all good morals come from Almighty God. Evil people are those mid-guided by the evil one satan. You look at countries which are secular and generally don't believe in God = more crime and a sad state of affairs socially. But they are too arrogant to admit it.
aerandir4 1 year ago
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Resinator45 1 year ago
@aerandir4 Your ignorance and intolerance appalls me. All secular countries suck and all religious countries are awesome? Yeah that's why secular places like Britain, France, Denmark etc are doing so terribly right? And why places like Iran (Islam) Israel (Judaism) or Bosnia (Christianity) are doing so fabulous. Whatever.
Resinator45 1 year ago
2 people are orcs.
OneBleachedNaruto 1 year ago
One of the best moments in the entire trilogy
mattsmt20 1 year ago
i get major chills up my spine when it shows farmir watching them and the music starts playing...LOVE IT!
goofball33 1 year ago
i remember i was writing an english essay and for some reason i was thinking "and when then sun shines, it will shine out the clearer" i spent 3 hours looking up Lord of the Rings quotes etc... only Lord of the Rings can do that to me :D
PolishPixie 1 year ago
that could be a good parody to this movie lord of the rings the twin towers based in NY
Rekahn000 1 year ago
Victory! We have Victory!
NNCRich 1 year ago
i saw this movie when i was younger and i hated the frodo and sam part because i just wanted to see the battles. now that i rewatched the movies. i came to realize how great their story line was. this scene is amazing. when he says darkness passes you see the Ents defeating isengard and Theoden in helms deep declaring victory. such a beauitful scene. sean austin deserved an oscar for this role as Samwise the Brave :)
DBZ1253 1 year ago 3
Manly tears have been shed.
Hill177 1 year ago
This makes me teary eyed :)
ShireBaggins123 1 year ago
Sean Astin deserved a big freakin' trophy for all his motivational speeches. He kept Frodo going and saved his life so many times.
AND THAT WAS FOR MY OL' GAFFER! >:D
Music11Listener 1 year ago
Not meaning to seem so up myself when I say this; but, when times get tough, and i'm on my own, I imagine myself as everything that's happening to me as "this shadow" and for me to keep on going, holding onto something. "that there's some good in this world, and it worth fighting for"!!
FOR THE SHIRE PIPPIN!!!!!!! I just have no idea how I would survive without it. XD
nothinbuthax 1 year ago 26
@nothinbuthax Everyone has those times and even though they may not think the exact words, they do get the idea that this world is still good and there is always a tomorrow. Hang in there.
firejack007 1 year ago 13
@nothinbuthax
That was a good story until the "XD".. XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
Nynorskmannen 1 year ago
@nothinbuthax
you cannot compare yourself to this fantasy world idiot. lotr is an epic battle and your so called ''shadow'' is probably your girlfriend leaving you or that kind of boring stuff. do not compare your dull life with this please.
izzy0210 1 year ago
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@izzy0210 "Not meaning to seem so up myself when I say this;" - I do know that my 'shadow' isn't like the film's storyline. Just thought i'd mention how this film means alot to me. If that makes me an idiot, then fuck you bitch! :)
nothinbuthax 1 year ago
@izzy0210 Stories like Lord of The Rings are written for people to relate to. Just because this story is full of monsters and magic doesn't mean it can't be translated into every day problems. That's how you know when a story is really good, and that it is timeless. Because it speaks to it's reader/viewer on a personal level and evokes emotion in us. Truth be told you don't know what people are going through. For you to belittle this persons struggles is really down right idiotic.
LibertineDeSade 1 year ago
@LibertineDeSade
>Stories like Lord of The Rings are written for people to relate to.
sure stupid bitch go try and be smart.... seriously tolkien did not write lotr for that reason dumbshit.
now please do not right a response when you do not have any good arguments.
izzy0210 1 year ago
@izzy0210 Did you really just call ME stupid and then say "right" a response?? Really?
It's so interesting that someone who can't use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation can sit there and tell me why Tolkien wrote what he wrote. Learn to WRITE properly and then come talk to me about literature. Dunce.
LibertineDeSade 1 year ago
@LibertineDeSade
>Did you really just call ME stupid and then say "right" a response?? Really?
yes I did, u mad, bish???
fuckin grammar nazi.
you plan on attacking me on spelling wrong or other dumb shit and again you do not have a serious argument against my response to nothinbuthax.
also you telling I am telling you what tolkien wrote?? omfg
> Stories like Lord of The Rings are written for people to relate to.
nope you did.
izzy0210 1 year ago
@izzy0210 You're a moron. Sod off, troll.
GatsbyHater 1 year ago
@GatsbyHater yeah, ctfd, seriously
domtoug 1 year ago
@nothinbuthax I think you're demonized. And your freedom from it is worth fighting for.
sorenkierkegaard2008 1 year ago
*salutes* I LOVE YOU SAM!
RazzleDazzale 1 year ago
i think i might cry, :')
BilboBaggins233 1 year ago
The whole cinema was shaking with suppressed tears - with some of us (like me) sobbing openly. This scene is so beautiful.
uhsfeth 1 year ago
omg, this part had touch my heart TvT .... (sorry my english ;-\ )
lara1891 1 year ago
My mother and I think that Sean Astin should have gotten an Ocar for that performance...i get chills every time... Thank you J. R. R. Tolkien
CarriePont 1 year ago 56
@CarriePont I agree.
firejack007 1 year ago 4
@CarriePont
And petter jackson
Nostro200 1 year ago
@CarriePont I couldn't agree with you more! He deserves an Oscar!
rodeostar15 9 months ago
brb gonna kiss the writer
honorableshadow 1 year ago
That is so true. I love that scene, so heart-felt and wonderful. Even Gollum/Smeagol, felt the the message inside him. For once, I think he felt sorry for all his bad doings and such. I will add this to my favorites and watch it once every day! LOL, soo good!
unicornnnnnn 1 year ago 2
beautiful...
Dennie234 1 year ago
What's the name of the background song???
olliethebest51 1 year ago
@olliethebest51 samwise the brave
Dennie234 1 year ago
beautiful
FlyingAce1015 1 year ago
best speech ever i wish every human being could be touched by this
TheChamberofFarts 1 year ago
You all should watch the commentaries on the Special Extended DVD edition, well at least the cast's commentary. (I know it is really long) My goal is to watch one commentary for all three extended versions a year.
swanarrow 1 year ago
jeez a speech like that all came from a goonie :P
1990GingerNut 1 year ago 16
@1990GingerNut lol
firejack007 1 year ago
@firejack007 and the guy from encino man
shonuff0330 1 year ago
@1990GingerNut
would you expect any less?
mjmjr2191 1 year ago
@1990GingerNut not just a Goonie, but THE Goonie :) haha
lightthiscity11 1 year ago
I think its gollum that really brings out the character and message of this speech.
Those eyes full of regret....he knows it is too late for him to turn back to the "way things once were"...that samwise mentions in his speech.
dragchute86 1 year ago 2
Sometimes when I listen to this, I feel like it was being said to all of us, not just Frodo. I always feel heartened by it, especially in these times.
Masiakasaurus 1 year ago
@Masiakasaurus i think that's the point. If this speech is from the book, I think Tolkien meant to send that message to his readers, not just Frodo. If not, its damn good message that the movie sent.
Izanguard1 1 year ago
@Izanguard1 You all have to remember that J.R.R. Tolkien wrote these 3 books during all the strife that was going on in the world in the late 1930's and 1940's. So ya maybe Tolkien was sending a message to all of us "that there's some good in this world and it's worth fighting for". A message, btw, that is still true today.
firejack007 1 year ago 3
why they always cut off the very last moments of this scene ...when Faramir shows courage!... it nice to see him follow up this great speech!
olivierkato 1 year ago 3
@olivierkato I agree that shows some real courage by Faramir, but actually that is a new scene and the focus here is what Frodo is saying.
firejack007 1 year ago
Smeagol actually looked somewaht moved during that speech.
ForrestSpeyerbitch09 1 year ago
I want a friend exactly like Sam. T^T
3chiika 1 year ago 6
What a coincidence that Two Towers came out when the Twin Towers fell. They are really similar.
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow I hope someone doesn't take off from these movies some radical political message trying to understand the terrorist viewpoint or something like that, equating "evil" capitalists and their twin towers. Cause this was written during World War II. Read Wikipedia on LOTR, it's very interesting.
firejack007 1 year ago
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swanarrow 1 year ago
@firejack007 I hope so too. but for those of you out there, Nah there is no political message its just that 9/11 influenced what the actors and the directors put in this film, moving lines from the other book to the 2nd film. Just a random depressing thought -Tolkien fought in WW1 and was still alive when WW II came about, so pretty much the fathers fight in one war only to send their sons into the next - so sad. sad, all our wars been like that ever since WW1
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow Actually, The Two Towers came out in 2002...
RickyPrescott 1 year ago
@RickyPrescott true, the movie, but not the book which the movie is taken from.
firejack007 1 year ago
@RickyPrescott yes but they were filming it during 2001. If you doubt me go watch the cast's commentaries on the Special Extended DVD edition of the Two Towers.
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow You're absolutely right..
RickyPrescott 1 year ago
@swanarrow you do realize that was written in the 40's right?
goofball33 1 year ago
@goofball33 That The Lord of the Rings were written in the mid 50s? Yes, I am fully aware of that. What are you implying?
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow they were written in 40's....PUBLISHED in 50's...and im denying the fact of any coincidence between the destruction of the world trade center and a movie based off a book written before the world trade center existed happening around the same time
goofball33 1 year ago
@goofball33 Let me get this straight. You think that the Twin Towers and the quote from the Two Towers movie are NOT a coincidence, that it was set up? I am confused. Are you saying they have nothing to do with each other? If that is what you are saying you should of read what I said earlier. I was just explaining that they moved that quote, which was supposed to be in the third film (The quote is from the third book), to the Two Towers because of what happened to the Twin Towers. To help people
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow okay well i agree with that. i thought you were trying to say that the idea of the "two towers" was created from the world trade center. sorry for the mix up.
goofball33 1 year ago
@swanarrow lol it makes sense havent u seen the movie "knowing" maybe jrr tolken got hold of the list and decided to call lord of the rings after a terrorist attack hmmm seems possible
clarkyownsyou 1 year ago
@clarkyownsyou lol maybe. He said that during WW1 he was always asking himself - why are we doing this anyway? That is where he got inspired for that quote. That whats he said, though he may have known after he got hold of the list. hehe :)
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow hahaha of course :D
clarkyownsyou 1 year ago
One of the reasons why they moved Sam's speech to the end of Two Towers was because 9/11 just happened, to help people cope with their family/friends deaths. Also they put the suicide bomber Uruk-hai, in Helm's Deep from what happened in 9/11.
swanarrow 1 year ago 2
@swanarrow I didn't know that; that's a really interesting thing to know, and in a way, I'm glad to know that.
Masiakasaurus 1 year ago
@swanarrow
That sounds like bollocks to me... whats your source?
MajesticClangers 1 year ago
@MajesticClangers From the cast's commentary on the Two Towers extended DVD
swanarrow 1 year ago
@swanarrow
Well that is a pretty reliable source...
MajesticClangers 1 year ago
@swanarrow highly doubt that
goofball33 1 year ago
Samwise the brave > edward and jacob any day id rather be with a caring hobbit than some dead sparkling fag or a hairy dog XD
clarkyownsyou 1 year ago 27
@clarkyownsyou amen to that my friend!
junkyjoe11 1 year ago
epic.amazing speech,amazing movie
everytime i see i feel hope for our world.
thanks!!
irenevisious 1 year ago 2