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  • I think that first tune is Florida Blues, a Fiddlin' Arthur Smith tune that Bob loved to play.

    Jim

  • @JudgeSturdy Yes, the first is Florida Blues played by Ashley Hull.

  • I kind of wondered how you would get on with a forge that deep. I figure that you learn by doing. If you don't make mistakes you aren't trying anything new. Good job!

  • COOL!!!!

  • Hard to watch the video, I'm doing a jig over here!!!!

  • had to relook at the title of the vid. To make sure I read it right cause with that Ten clay thought you was going to make a moonshine steel...LOL..nice work on the forge tho

  • how did you make the clay?

  • It looks like you're playing with the poo poo.

  • @dataq0111 The grass clippings are to hold the clay together while it is drying. After its dry, it doesnt matter what happens to the grass, most of it is burned up.

  • Grass clippings is silly. The heat from the forge is going to turn the grass to carbon and it will loose what little tensile strength it might have had.

  • @dataq0111 what happens to clay when its heated it "drys" and turns "hard" the "clippings" are just to hold it together while it drys

  • @djpaulk The ratios were 1:1: 1/2 of Clay:Sand:Grass Clippings

  • @CaueHefesto The three (3) materials were, Red Clay (dug up from the ozarks region), Sand (sifted out - as shown in the video - to make all one grade), and grass clippings (raked up from the yard after mowing).

  • like, here I thought hard to make a forge and you made​it with simpler materials out, what was that powder you mixed with clay? liked the music

  • @CaueHefesto it was sand

  • Hey oldtimer, steel worin..ahhhhh love it. pls let me know what ratios of what stuff you mixed.Your vid is way cool,kinda reminds me of the old corn cob videos ;)

    kind regards,

    aussie battla

  • thanks a lot !

  • get an oxygen  tank it should gett you to 3000 digress

    its used to shape glass but you can lower the heat just as a oven

  • good vid and very merry music. Thanks!

  • @roge715 We haven't had that dog for years.

  • i love the music but u most let the dog go out!! fella

  • This whole thing is super cool. Thumbs up to you.

    I wish you could post a link to some website containing the mp3 of the "Finley Creek blues" you used in your video. If the title you mention is correct I couldn't find it so far.

  • what's the second song called?

  • I would like to ask your opinion on an idea, what if you were to remove the bark of a log, then cover the log in this clay, and after that burn the log. Do you think this would leave you with a nice forge? I think it would work very well, even better if you were to get a log with a branch coming out of it. Please do criticize and reply. Thanks!

  • btw to anyone whos planing on doing this when ur applying the "clay" put a pipe down the air pipe to keep everything out it helps a lot

  • Sorry to post again right away but... Where did you get the clay?

  • When you say sand, do you mean the kind at the beach or something else?

  • If everyone in this country was as hard of a worker as you, this country wouldn't be the way it is.

  • I was wondering If you used any special kind of clay or sand and also that depression in the middle was your "firepot" right? Sorry I'm new..

  • @DjStoner96 Nope just a mix of Red Clay, Sand, and grass clippings in a ratio of 2:2:1. I would recommend going with a ratio of 3:2:1.

  • @OldtimeFiddler Red clay neh? I found a bounty of it but i could make anything with it

  • Nice job with the forge and the video. Your next project could be something nice made out of those black walnut logs laying by the woodpile!

  • so how do u use it? sorry im new to this

  • I will keep it in mind when constructing mine.. Thanks for the vid.

  • Nice job man! I'm starting my own forge as well! I like the idea of lining it with the cement. Where did you get the 4 inch space rule from? I WI

  • redneck is not the correct term to describe him. he is... A MAN!

  • Uh, what's with the sand?

  • Not really a forge...more like a foundry. A forge doesn't need a refractory.

  • @guidwi it may be better to remain quiet...rather then prove ignorance. What was well demonstrated here, was a pre cast iron building method.

  • You not only put the time to create your own fireproof clay (and I bet it can withstand about 1900+ degrees) with little to no slag. The regulator arm that you added to your bellows pipe, is sheer genius. You may want to have bigger hearth space though.

  • @TheAnderpov that isn't a regulator arm, its commonly known as a 'clinker' breaker, it helps to dislodge the deposit of a slag-like substance which accumulates in the air pipe, produced from the oxidised scale of the steel, impurities in the coal and small parts of the refractory itself fusing togethor and then clogging the air tube

  • What's the sons name at 6.0 minutes!?

  • i was wondering if it is better to put a grill over the pipe's opening, and will the pipe be damaged when the forge is lit or is that not a problem?

  • @5Metalgod5 I have not had trouble with it over heating yet because the "Hotspot" is more towards the center of the bowl. The Clay goes right to the pipe so it tends to keep it insulated.

  • @OldtimeFiddler ok, because i was a bit sketchy about bottom blast forges as i thought the heart of the fire is so close to and unprotected opening xD i will definatly try and make one of these

  • thumbs up if you fast forward to 4:20 and was like WTF WHY IS HE SMEARING SHIT IN HIS FORGE WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY

  • I was impressed with the effort put into this and I'm glad you suceeded. But, ignorant me wants to know if perhaps pouring concrete would have worked as well.  Or perhaps a mixture or layers of concrete and clay.

  • @MrToshTogo The reason for the extra work of sifting the clay was because I did not have much money to build the forge. The clay mix with sand and Grassclippings provides a heat barrier to keep from melting my form. Concrete would be useless. It would burn up plus it required buying.

  • Thanks you so much for posting!!!

  • Basically, you made a terracotta forge...I'm impressed.

  • hey,

    can you get a high enough temperature to make weapons with it?

    i mean things like axes or swords

    thank you =)

  • @waterzoip Most definately! Infact you can create molten metal if you leave it in too long....ha!

  • @OldtimeFiddler excellent =)

  • @waterzoip if you plan to make wepons lke iron a very simple way to get it is a.....MAGNET! Its very simple yet not many people think of it sift magnets through dirt/soil anything that comes to the magnet more then likely would be iron i have yet to smelt any of it.

  • @tjinga2u1 erm are you trolling me or wut?

  • im planning on making my forge soon, and this was alot of help!!!!!!!1

  • the clay you made, and than you put in the forge, is it for singel use, or can you use it over and over?

  • @KarelProject Yes you can use it over and over. The only drawback is that overtime (it took about 20 firings for me) the clay has to be built back up because it will break tiny peices while working. I just broke off a piece that was not needed towards the back and wet it down then remolded it around the ash dump.

  • @OldtimeFiddler thanks for fast reaction, but i'm to young (i'm 15) to build a forge, but really good for people who really want it!

  • LOVE THE MUSIC

  • Making a forge and forging stuff is cool.

    But making the clay yourself = instant & ultimate awesomeness.

    :)

  • American ingenuity at it's best ! Thanks for the post.

  • Is there a second part to the video?- it seems to end before the forge is finished.

  • so you mixed red mud and what to make that clay stuff?

  • @johnny1bucket, I took the red native clay we have and I strained it to get the large chunks and rocks out. Then I mixed it with sifted sand (got from the creek) in equal portions. I recommend 2:1 ratio of sand to clay. I did 1:1 here in this video and It was too much (I often have glass build up in the bottom). I also didnt show in this video that I had to add some grass clippings in order to keep the clay together while drying.

  • @OldtimeFiddler oh ok that makes more sense

  • @OldtimeFiddler you mean 2:1 ratio of clay to sand, you said you had to much sand, and glass is from sand. just to clarify.

  • @chadski88 Ha! yeah. Oops.

  • @johnny1bucket Ah, that was supposed to be 2:1 Clay to Sand

  • like makin biscuits

  • ive got a JTH1 bernzomatic torch with high heat mapp gas. How could i make a decent forge just for quenching a knife?

  • love the forge!

    but could you substitute half of a large propane tank for a smaller version?

  • @thornax1 Yeah. You could. The key is to add the grass clippings while mixing (something the video did not show) to minimize cracking while it dries. Then the next part thats important is to have a 3 inch deep firepot so that you "Hotspot" will be at level so you can get longer stock into the "Hotspot".

  • imagine if the majority of people could think and problem solve like this guy!

    instead we slave for elite people who do the thinking for us!

  • that's a really nicely done video and clever problem solving. when the clay shrank from the edge from the heating and cooling did you simply fill the edges back in with more clay or did you bend the steel to match the shrinkage? simple curiosity as i'm contemplating building my first indoor forge so i can work in relative comfort this winter. the old out door doesn't work well for forge welding when its minus 10 degrees outside =/

  • @reddragonsmaw There was some shrinkage but mostly the grass clippings (not shown in this video) prevented the cracking. If I had it to do over again I would use less sand (not 50/50 as in the video) and I would cut the metal so that it was shallower.

  • Pretty nice. I think the only thing that could make it better would be a notch at the other end for heating long pieces in the middle. I always like coke forges better than propane. You could get old waiting for a propane forge to get a shoe hot!

  • isnt lake of the ozarks in branson mizzouri?or by there?

  • That music really fits.

    Cool vid.

  • can you make a video showing your forge in use?

  • Thumbs up if you thought this would be halo 3 :3

  • i've read that heating clay (forgot the exact temp. but it's above 1000 degrees Celsius)you get jade

  • @backflippingcow about the 3rd time it happens to me!

  • damn youtube loop thing i was looking for halo reach

  • Can you use dirt bricks if you have to?

  • gayer than a racoon humping a hamster on a sunday yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaa LMAO

  • That is awesome. i cant wait to start building on my forge

    

  • well suported szegedi hutymurungyus csuluputty

  • At 1:55, what is that stuff you are sifting?

  • besides the sand do you add any thing else to the clay to help it from the heat

  • thats amazing, i never thought of that O_O

  • thanks for sharing

  • where can i see that kind of forge working? ai mean a video thit one + fire on it

  • i wonder if you could use plaster. possibly mixed with sand. any thoughts?

  • this seems to be a good idear! the red mud with sand can take a lot off heat, whith out getting destroyed! i think ure forge works good! how does the thing works for the air stream? did it alow a wide angle of stream or a point heating?

  • I have wanted to build a forge for years but I live in a neighborhood and I thought the noise of me pounding metal on a anvil would get a lot of noise complaints. Do you think I would be able to get away with it in a neighborhood or do you think it would be to loud?

  • @sleeperinthewoods as long as you do it in the early afternoon. like 2:30 to 5:30 and it'll be fine. there were no noise complaints in my neighborhood when i was pounding some steel into an armpiece

  • que bien gracias papa madre aporte

  • I live in Pasadena, how far is this bladesmithing school?

  • Great video! ★★★★★

  • are you from alabama cuz that looks like alabama clay

  • I made a coal forge but now I am making a propane portable with a unique caseing. I am using the shell of a large TEFC electric motor.

    I got he motor for free as it had fried windings.

    Since it allready has a good base, a nice round carcus, plates that fit on either end pefectly. I just remove the windings and iron, put some refractory in, install the propane burner, and modfiy the end caps to be a forge.

    Makes the best and most lightweight portable forge.

  • with the music it sounds like u should be building a still

  • @procuts69 Ha...still a good watch though

  • is there profit being a blacksmith nowadays? where to learn how to become a blacksmith?

  • You might not become filthy rich but at least you´ll do soething you like. If you want to do blacksmithing there´s places where you can learn, pretty expensive btw.I was looking to go to that scool but it was too much money

    . So there´s that school in texas for bladesmithing, or try going to a local blacksmith to teach you.

  • I enjoyed the bluegrass while watching your forge.

  • how much eags sorry -.- ??? uahahah XD!!

  • Great video. I am wondering what your clay composititon is with respect to its silica and other contect.. I'll never forget a demonstration NASA did at our shcool one year. Space shuttle tiles compared to styrofoam, similar in weight but definitely not in their ability to withstand or refract heat. I've read a lot of people comment on exploding bricks because of moisture. Theoretically, the more porous the more able to hold moisture, which is not a problem for fire bricks, etc. Nice video.

  • How do you render clay?

  • good idea

  • very good job,well done

  • The railroad track works fairly well - 1 ft section of railroad track with one end cut to point and back end machined for several hardie and tool holes. The working surface is plenty resiliant and the weight is good too. I mounted mine on a 28" high hickory stump.

  • i am going to build my anvil out of rail road track

  • old glassblower

    thrown alot of castable around

    like your technique ..

    think hot

    work hotter

  • how much would all the stuff cost to get started in blacksmithing?

  • forge you can possably make from items laying around like this guy. cheapest anvil is $17

    you will need fule for the forge. probably coal would be best. could be hard to get in some areas. basic tools like ball ping hammer. pliers. vise, tongs leather gloves and some free time to mess around. i thank im going to get started with this myself ^^

  • true you can get a cheap anvil. and cheap is good if you are just learning or just wanting to try it out, but if you plan on taking smithing seriously. you will want to put out quite a bit of money for a good anvil that will A: ring for a good bit, B: is drop forged steel (otherwise the metal is too soft and you get a clunk when you hit it with a hammer) i just recently bought a 250# double horn for $2,100.00 so they are not cheap. but if you can find a used one at an antique store

  • nice video awsome musice well played

  • i wish i lived in a place like u. i live in miami only buildings. no leaves on the floor, no scrap metal. SIGH

  • i wish i lived in a place like you, thats where they film burn notice

  • same here miami is greatbut outdoors wise is not that good. at least we got the everglades

  • Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

  • man ur a real redneck, cool :O

  • I don't think redneck would be the correct term to define this man. Redneck, though some people take pride in the term, is a rather belittling term which has been perverted to the meaning of stupidity where as this man, while not conformed to the city life, clearly just has great tastes in hobbies such as the fiddle and blacksmithing and comes from a rural area. So yes the probability of him having urban intellectuality is low, it would be no lower than a "city-boys" urban survival skills.

  • i didnt mean it in an offensive way, he's a cool redneck, like me ;)

  • @samurail337 The term 'redneck' originated because Europeans exposed to chronic sunshine develop leathery, red skin in sun exposed areas. Consequently, all who work outside, such as farmers, carpenters, etc., were 'rednecks'. As you mentioned, the city folks, who worked out of the sun, were not rednecks and considered those who work outside stupid. I think you expressed the redneck reality very well.

  • @BuickDoc wow finally some one who understands thank you

  • @samurail337 I will say this for him, I work with him and he didn't grow up in the country. He is a Network Administrator for a living, and one of the smartest hardest working guys I know. He's not afraid to try and figure anything out, and he's probably capable of doing just that given the chance!

  • would it work for metal

  • nicley done and the music reminds me of toy story 2 lmao. im actually looking to make a brick forge in my yard this summer

  • Same here, I used to do it in my chimeanai (spelling is butcherd) but the ice storm sent that packing in shards, so im out of luck.

    I wonder where he found the metal stuff.

  • And the MRS says  "Hee haw" just after the music..her dads a fiddle player,,.Nice forge..

  • thats a good lookn forge. what are you goin to use for an air source?

  • How did you get that clay!? Did you sift it out of something like river bedding? I'm not sure how you did that.

  • I dug it out of a bank at my dads place in the Lake of the Ozarks. It was just a really good "clay pocket". I soaked it in water to get out the rocks and roots and such as I put it through the strainer.

  • @OldtimeFiddler me and my friend were looking at something like clay the other day by a river . It was still kind of like top soil . how far do you go down to get the proper stuff and what process do you use to get it hard ?

  • @OldtimeFiddler Are you from Arkansas? because if you are, i am too!

  • he dug a hole

  • I came across a Cast Iron outdoor fire place from the looks of the desine it may work as a forge but Can the cast Iron take the Heat?

  • Probably could, i found one of those too, but the $200 price tag turned me off at the time...

  • is that just clay water and sand you mix together? what is its purpose?

  • The water was used to soften the clay and run it through the screen to get all foreign matter out. The sand and the grass clippings help to keep the clay together while its being heated.

  • @OldtimeFiddler

    Grass will actually help the clay crack instead try sand and clay only 4:1 ratio it can still crack before/ during drying but you patch the cracks before firing...

  • wow your really traditional good job by the way

  • Here's something I thought of feel free to tear it down. I guess you could take some steel or iron (maybe a rusty stainless steel grill) and coat it with a bit of clay to keep the coals from falling down into the blower pipe. Something tells me the heat would expand metal and cause the clay to crack off but I don't know. Happy forging I might try this myself soon.

  • I have used this for a year now and I have not had any issues with it cracking. However, the clay did separate from the metal along the edges but it doesnt really hurt anything. I actually had to redo the forge after making this video. I had to add grass clippings. What that does is hold the clay in place long enough for it to dry then when it is fired up it holds together nicely. Sure the grass on the outside burns but it is already dry by that point. So far this has worked well.

  • Wouldnt that block the airflow though?

  • nice clay !, is there a part2 ?

  • Yeah, Check out the video response I posted a while back. Its under the original movie.

  • I have a couple of things to say....

    1.Good job you good at what you do

    2.I hate fidle and country music but this is awesome fidlin

    3.i want to see more so im subscribing

  • thats fricken awesome :P

  • Where did you get clay from? Did you harvest it yourself or buy it in powder form??

  • My place has a lot of that clay. No it wasnt in powder form it was full of rocks and roots. I had to clean it up by sifting it wet through a screen..

  • The music (Finley Creek)was so good, I forgot about the forge!

  • how about a formula for your refractory

  • looked to me like it was just red clay and either sifted dirt or sand.

    i use clay, sand, and a little wood ash if that helps any

  • can any1 tell me how the forge works, i wanna make a mini one thats safe so that i can use it in a backyard. i only want to make arrow heads so it doesnt need to be large

  • fuel, heat, and air flow from underneath

  • o, thnx, now to make this

  • my first one is made from a small cast iron pot and furnace cement with a I think 3/4" or 1" pipe in the bottom side of it and it works really well

  • o, thnx, irea;;y only need one to melt stuff, whch then can coat some stuff to make it hard

  • Great video. I'm a banjo player/blacksmith. How about some smithing videos in the future?

  • I love the music. I just built a forge from a 30 gal drum. Instead of clay, I used terra cotta bricks. I built a fairly elaborate pipe system, we'll see how well it works. I think I'm a bit of a perfectionist, because I even found a hinge, and built a door from the part of the face I cut out of the barrel. I confess, I love welding, but I also like being finished with a project.

  • Sweet! I did kinda same same thing (video coming soon) but mine's much smaller. I used an old toolbox with a pipe at bottom, running the length of it with holes for an oblong fire for making blades. I dug up the clay from the back of my property but I wasn't sure if all of it was clay (some looked liked like sandstone and it was all red) so I mixed in a little bit of concrete that was laying around to help it bond. how did you get it to harden? I just threw in some coal and started forging.

  • i am so gona do this

  • i have the same tractor as you! mine is a '89! sweet forge sir, very clever

  • where do you think I can purchase that clay?

  • I really wouldnt know. It depends on you location. I didnt buy this...I just went out and dug it up.