It appears that Brett's days are numbered again. It'd hard to feel sorry for him given his past abuses, but he's almost beginning to look pitful as he clings to his latest YT account, but you reap what you sow...
I'm in full agreement with you, that TheStallion76 should have been allowed to go un-harassed. Some persons do not handle pressure well, and that harassment may have triggered a relapse into old behaviors.
Yes, by dredging old shit they caused Brett to feel defensive and it lead to more and more shit, accusations and counter accusations. There were also those mean minded wretches out there who were getting off on playing dirty tricks.
The truth is that he should have just been left alone to continue TheStallion76 which was going nicely and those who decided to kick shit in his face are complete assholes.
There are a lot of people who WANT to see Brett Keane. They should be allowed to.
To be quite honest... from what I have seen, this new drama with Brett all started with that video against TJ during HIS fortnight of shit against Coughlan. That video was a mistake and was taken down, TJ and Brett have settled their differences (albeit at a convenient time for TJ to use as a weapon against coughlan)... it should have all been dropped at that time, but people being human decided to look further into matters and dig up the past.
There are also those who just get their rocks off picking on anyone that they think they can get by with doing it to. They are taking his channel down now.
They are far worse than Brett ever was because they are stealing from others their right to choose whether they want to view Brett's videos or not. Brett never took their freedom of choice away from them.
erm... actually, there is a wall of evidence to say that yes, he did. As much as he wants to deny it, and as much as I don't want to believe it, he did falsely DMCA several of straightd0pe's videos to the point of suspension. There are plenty who would have liked to continue watching him.
Well, I don't know if he did or not. But, one thing that I am certain of is that the entire event never would have occurred if people had just left him alone to run his channel as he was doing. That includes straightd0pe.
One thing is for certain, he DID drops docs. I don't know if he's behind the straightd0pe false DMCAs or not, but for publishing a person's personal address info, email, etc. on YT, that's pretty deserving of the YT death penalty.
No the address was a public web hosting address and he did it in defense when people were posting his home address and phone numbers on various sites. Those users are still around. You think that is fair?
Sorry, that's utter crap, I've seen the video and there's NO indication that it was a public web hosting address. And if others dropped BK's docs on YT, they should be banned for life too.
Yeah, it IS bullshit. I saw the video, and ONCE again, there's NO indication that the address was a commercial (compared to a personal) address. I was also around in Brett's early days and recall all his drama bullshit and saw the Judelicious vid exposing his plagarism, but that's not nearly as bad as dropping docs.
First off, I though you were talking about dropping docs. Second, a judge has to rule on the legitimacy of the DMCA filed, before it could possibly be deemed a false filing. Third, case law has not been tested, to my knowledge, in filing DMCAs that counter harassment or defamation, which are crimes themselves. Fourth, any filing filed in good faith of a favorable ruling, is not considered a false filing. The only way your argument could stand, is if in the end, none of these criteria are met.
You appear to be confused in the difference between a civil and a legal case. DMCA is entirely and unequivocally about copyright. If a DMCA charge is filed against a work that contains no copyrightable material, or what copyrightable material therein falls under fair use, the charge is false, and the filer has perjured eirself.
Defamation and harassment are civil, not legal matters.
I'm not at all confused by the difference between a civil and a criminal case, perhaps you are. In many jurisdictions, both defamation and harassment are criminal acts. Fair use does not cover these acts, and neither does fair use cover the further use of any material adjudicated as harassment or defamation in a civil case. This is one of the reasons that congress here in America, is attempting to pass a cyber bullying bill...to make these criminal laws universal in the states.
The cyber bullying law , now under consideration in congress H.R.1966, covers far more than just children, as do many of the anti-cyberharassment laws already on the books.
I feel I must address another point you made a couple of comments ago about copyrighted material. If someone uses my content, for instance dubbing in their own audio or text, over my video. They have possibly used that content, to break the law, by harassing or defaming me. This may violate fair use, but has not been tested.
"They have possibly used that content, to break the law, by harassing or defaming me."
Brett filled the DMCA on straightd0pe's only video about him. I don't think that a single video can be viewed as harassment, I think it would take at least three. Defamation would require a "false" or "unjustified" attack on the character of a person. This, also, would not be the case in regard to straighd0pe's video.
I never watched the video in question in full, so I have no real idea of just what was said. Nor do I know BK's history. I'm just not that interested in that type of drama, rumors, accusations, or anything that doesn't affect me directly. Whether or not BK was defamed or not, is something the courts would have to decide, not me. People on the net can infer, claim, or insist, anything they want to, but without exact, verifiable evidence, I don't believe anything anyone says. Nobody should.
I advocated that all the banned be brought back and be given another chance to see if they could do better under the new rules after YT announced the 3 strike rule.
But, there are those who are unwilling to let by gones be by gones, who are determined to dog Brett no matter what. TheStallion76 was flagged off YT for no darned good reason.
If your objective is to cast perspective onto the situation, i would like to return the favour. BK may or may not be popular on the internetz, its really down to his own behaviour, and everyone liking or disliking him on the internet is equally insignificant in real terms. Unless of course you imply that it is somehow important to him/us that he be generally liked? If thats the case then you might want to have a word with him :)
See the response I just posted above. I have long advocated that all who were banned prior to the new YT three strike rule be brought back without prejudice because the banning in the past was so arbitrary and capricious.
Apparently, they did allow Brett to come back but asshats with old grievances will not get off his case and just let him run a good channel. What absolute jerks!
Thank you for starting my afternoon with a laugh. I know you're a bit upset with everybody jumping on Brett's case lately. He is a very likable guy, and has done a lot of good for the non-Abrahamic community in the past few month.
I just can't help this feeling that this has all occurred before. Strike that... going back through the backlog of videos, I see way too much evidence that it has, to continue to ignore.
i knew brett keane was a bad guy, lol, i can see how he did this, DON'T TRUST BRETT. LOLOLOL
freethinker3161 2 years ago
Truth is, Brett Keane thought he farted, but he really shit his pants.
VonSchnutze 2 years ago
Hot momma you are so Brilliant
I love these "stragities"
abba149 2 years ago
Hey, big boy!
SSanf 2 years ago
8'D
abba149 2 years ago
It appears that Brett's days are numbered again. It'd hard to feel sorry for him given his past abuses, but he's almost beginning to look pitful as he clings to his latest YT account, but you reap what you sow...
DirkMcQuigly 2 years ago 4
Well, he is flagged again. The selfish pricks are going to deprive anyone who wants to see his videos of the opportunity to do so.
What selfish assholes.
SSanf 2 years ago
I'm in full agreement with you, that TheStallion76 should have been allowed to go un-harassed. Some persons do not handle pressure well, and that harassment may have triggered a relapse into old behaviors.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
Yes, by dredging old shit they caused Brett to feel defensive and it lead to more and more shit, accusations and counter accusations. There were also those mean minded wretches out there who were getting off on playing dirty tricks.
The truth is that he should have just been left alone to continue TheStallion76 which was going nicely and those who decided to kick shit in his face are complete assholes.
There are a lot of people who WANT to see Brett Keane. They should be allowed to.
SSanf 2 years ago
To be quite honest... from what I have seen, this new drama with Brett all started with that video against TJ during HIS fortnight of shit against Coughlan. That video was a mistake and was taken down, TJ and Brett have settled their differences (albeit at a convenient time for TJ to use as a weapon against coughlan)... it should have all been dropped at that time, but people being human decided to look further into matters and dig up the past.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
There are also those who just get their rocks off picking on anyone that they think they can get by with doing it to. They are taking his channel down now.
They are far worse than Brett ever was because they are stealing from others their right to choose whether they want to view Brett's videos or not. Brett never took their freedom of choice away from them.
SSanf 2 years ago
erm... actually, there is a wall of evidence to say that yes, he did. As much as he wants to deny it, and as much as I don't want to believe it, he did falsely DMCA several of straightd0pe's videos to the point of suspension. There are plenty who would have liked to continue watching him.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
Well, I don't know if he did or not. But, one thing that I am certain of is that the entire event never would have occurred if people had just left him alone to run his channel as he was doing. That includes straightd0pe.
SSanf 2 years ago
One thing is for certain, he DID drops docs. I don't know if he's behind the straightd0pe false DMCAs or not, but for publishing a person's personal address info, email, etc. on YT, that's pretty deserving of the YT death penalty.
DirkMcQuigly 2 years ago 2
No the address was a public web hosting address and he did it in defense when people were posting his home address and phone numbers on various sites. Those users are still around. You think that is fair?
g3mstarr19 2 years ago
Sorry, that's utter crap, I've seen the video and there's NO indication that it was a public web hosting address. And if others dropped BK's docs on YT, they should be banned for life too.
DirkMcQuigly 2 years ago 2
That is not bullshit, i've been around since the oneless god days. I saw everything go down.
g3mstarr19 2 years ago
Yeah, it IS bullshit. I saw the video, and ONCE again, there's NO indication that the address was a commercial (compared to a personal) address. I was also around in Brett's early days and recall all his drama bullshit and saw the Judelicious vid exposing his plagarism, but that's not nearly as bad as dropping docs.
DirkMcQuigly 2 years ago
If I was brett I would of done the same thing inself defense. Fuck straightdope
g3mstarr19 2 years ago
Then you'd likely be banned too.
DirkMcQuigly 2 years ago 2
not to mention being charged with a federal crime.
wyrdness1 2 years ago 2
unless you live outside the US, but then international law comes into effect
wyrdness1 2 years ago
Federal crime?? What federal crime?? Please cite statute and source.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
The DMCA is federal law. To falsify information on a legal document is perjury. Perjury is an obstruction of justice, and a crime.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
First off, I though you were talking about dropping docs. Second, a judge has to rule on the legitimacy of the DMCA filed, before it could possibly be deemed a false filing. Third, case law has not been tested, to my knowledge, in filing DMCAs that counter harassment or defamation, which are crimes themselves. Fourth, any filing filed in good faith of a favorable ruling, is not considered a false filing. The only way your argument could stand, is if in the end, none of these criteria are met.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
You appear to be confused in the difference between a civil and a legal case. DMCA is entirely and unequivocally about copyright. If a DMCA charge is filed against a work that contains no copyrightable material, or what copyrightable material therein falls under fair use, the charge is false, and the filer has perjured eirself.
Defamation and harassment are civil, not legal matters.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
I'm not at all confused by the difference between a civil and a criminal case, perhaps you are. In many jurisdictions, both defamation and harassment are criminal acts. Fair use does not cover these acts, and neither does fair use cover the further use of any material adjudicated as harassment or defamation in a civil case. This is one of the reasons that congress here in America, is attempting to pass a cyber bullying bill...to make these criminal laws universal in the states.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
Cyber bullying laws only protect children. Last I checked, Brett was a fully grown adult.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
The cyber bullying law , now under consideration in congress H.R.1966, covers far more than just children, as do many of the anti-cyberharassment laws already on the books.
I feel I must address another point you made a couple of comments ago about copyrighted material. If someone uses my content, for instance dubbing in their own audio or text, over my video. They have possibly used that content, to break the law, by harassing or defaming me. This may violate fair use, but has not been tested.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
"They have possibly used that content, to break the law, by harassing or defaming me."
Brett filled the DMCA on straightd0pe's only video about him. I don't think that a single video can be viewed as harassment, I think it would take at least three. Defamation would require a "false" or "unjustified" attack on the character of a person. This, also, would not be the case in regard to straighd0pe's video.
VonSchnutze 2 years ago
I never watched the video in question in full, so I have no real idea of just what was said. Nor do I know BK's history. I'm just not that interested in that type of drama, rumors, accusations, or anything that doesn't affect me directly. Whether or not BK was defamed or not, is something the courts would have to decide, not me. People on the net can infer, claim, or insist, anything they want to, but without exact, verifiable evidence, I don't believe anything anyone says. Nobody should.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
Definately need more than someone's word nowadays.
VonSchnutze 2 years ago
Well I had another response up which i tried to correct for a typo but YT won't let me post it again.
SSanf 2 years ago
I advocated that all the banned be brought back and be given another chance to see if they could do better under the new rules after YT announced the 3 strike rule.
SSanf 2 years ago
But, there are those who are unwilling to let by gones be by gones, who are determined to dog Brett no matter what. TheStallion76 was flagged off YT for no darned good reason.
SSanf 2 years ago
People should have just allowed Brett to run that channel unharassed.
SSanf 2 years ago
Well, it let me post it in bits and pieces. That was directed to wyrdness1.
SSanf 2 years ago
If your objective is to cast perspective onto the situation, i would like to return the favour. BK may or may not be popular on the internetz, its really down to his own behaviour, and everyone liking or disliking him on the internet is equally insignificant in real terms. Unless of course you imply that it is somehow important to him/us that he be generally liked? If thats the case then you might want to have a word with him :)
Aspartame69 2 years ago
See the response I just posted above. I have long advocated that all who were banned prior to the new YT three strike rule be brought back without prejudice because the banning in the past was so arbitrary and capricious.
Apparently, they did allow Brett to come back but asshats with old grievances will not get off his case and just let him run a good channel. What absolute jerks!
SSanf 2 years ago
Thank you for starting my afternoon with a laugh. I know you're a bit upset with everybody jumping on Brett's case lately. He is a very likable guy, and has done a lot of good for the non-Abrahamic community in the past few month.
I just can't help this feeling that this has all occurred before. Strike that... going back through the backlog of videos, I see way too much evidence that it has, to continue to ignore.
wyrdness1 2 years ago
Indeed. There is no telling what evil has been accomplished by the nefarious Brett Keane!
SSanf 2 years ago