My high school band done the planets my eighth grade year, it was awesome, but no pluto was not written by Holst, it was written by Colin Matthews, in memory of Holst's late daughter.
No shit! Holst didn't write this... Pluto wasn't even discovered during his life... so.. I think Mathews piece... should possibly be included in future performances of THE PLANETS... just a thought... good ideas,,, sorry, can't stand the recording, but the piece is great!!
This is NOT the Colin Matthews composition (Pluto, the Renewer), as was previously mentioned. It doesn't even slightly resemble it; the Matthews composition is not even tonal.
@EVILgnarlygnome Well, I guess I am an obtuse idiot. I don't allow organizations to rule my life, and I consider it wrong to alter the shape of the solar system just to suit the vanity of science.
It's also wrong to call Percival Lowell an 'obtuse idiot'. He used much of his life to find Pluto, and now, because of this IAU, his remarkable discovery is thus rendered pointless. Shameful.
@EVILgnarlygnome Oh? I didn't know being retained or held back had anything to do with astronomy. And do you really have to have a lesser sense of intelligence or mental fitness to believe in something that teachers had taught you (and others) for decades? I have always believed that Pluto was a planet, and now, because of this, I'm mentally ill. Really...
What is the real name of this song? Its actually not from Gustav Holst or Colin Matthews. What is this really from????? I want to figure this out cause everyone on the internet has got it wrong. plz help get this straight
"Pluto was discovered in 1930, four years before Holst's death, and was hailed by astronomers as the ninth planet. Holst, however, expressed no interest in writing a movement for the new planet. He had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works. In 2000, the Hallé Orchestra commissioned the English composer Colin Matthews, an authority on Holst, to write a new eighth movement, which he called "Pluto, the Renewer"."
who really cares if pluto is a planet or not,this post is not about pointless and meaningless debates , but more from a dude who loves music and want's to share it
who really cares if pluto is a planet or not,this post is not about pointless debates and self importance but more from a dude who loves music and want's to share it
@youngpop1000 Well actually it is considerably smaller than Mercury plus it is not classified as an oversized iceshard or meteor it is actually classed as a Dwarf Planet so it maintains some of its significance in the Solar System however I do agree that i'm sad to see it declassified as I like Pluto too especially considering that recent studies have shown that Pluto might be larger than Eris after all.
Of course, it's not from Holst. However, as any music, we can argue about its quality: someone will like it and some others will dislike it :S
I don't care a shit about what Astronomers can say... but in Astrology, Pluto WORKS. Even discovered in 1930 by Clyde Tombaugh, there are enough studies about its influence and progression. Astronomers are only "scientists". people who only believe in what they can see (bah)...
We all know its not Gustav Holst and never did he write an eighth movement but can we all just enjoy it...i mean its not horrible but it aint Holst either. I kind of enjoyed it.
It's so sad that Holst didn't want to continue writing Pluto to add to the Planets when it was discovered .. he did the other planets and they were all so awesome .. especially Jupiter!!! But, the guy who wrote this was awesome too ...
this in not Holst!!!!!!!!!!!!!! um hello if you know history pluto was found very shorty before he died!!!!!!!!! so saying that this is Holst is an insult to his creative genius!!!!!!!!! the thought of insulting an amazing composer like him is just sicking
this is not holst's, as everyone has already said. i do like it though, a lot, even though it sounds nothing like his style, haha. however, "lord of the underworld"? uh, no. not this music anyway. especially not the happy ending. beautiful, but not the theme.
THE PLANET PRIMER by Roland Cheney - Part 1 The Sun. Blazing, burning, golden orb, Shines that others may absorb. Mercury. Freezing cold, seething blast, Spins but once, in orbit fast. Venus. Beauty, brightness, hovering, Veiled in her torrid fling. Earth--and the Moon. One alive, the other void, Double, whirling planetoid. Mars. Red, dun, magenta, gold, Crumbled ramparts, growing old. The Asteroids. Once a ball and now a ring, Composed of almost everything.
The Planet Primer by Roland Cheney - Part 2 Jupiter. One-eyed bubble, awesome thing, Circles in its wandering. Saturn. Banded planet, banded rings, Planet orbiting--on wings. Uranus. Drunken monster rolls about, North within and then without. Neptune. Giant ball of green and blue, Lost a planetoid or two. Pluto. Dim and dark, crystal stung, Tiny spark, the stars among.
Actually this was not written by Holst. Colin Matthews wrote it in the year 2000. Pluto was discovered before Holst's death but he was not of a mind to write a movement for it becuase he was distressed by the suite's popularity (yes!). Matthews, a scholar of Holst, was commissioned to write the piece because he could evoke the style of the original pieces.
make a new picture. and make sure you dont put Hoslt's name in it he. like Karlfalcon said that is being vain to him. he didnt write this so theres no need to count this as his. he died before pluto became a planet
As far as the composition, it is very good. You shouldn't me so concerned with the name whereas the piece itself. If musicians weren't so worried about a name, they could actually see a good piece of music. Think about that the next time you say that. Because It's probably a lot better than anything you, or anyone else could compose.
@MonsterSpency3 It's good for an amateur, yes. But for the composer to be comparing it to one of the most famous composers in history is not only pretentious but undeserved. It doesn't fit the style of Holst and doesn't contain even a minute portion of the quality. This arrangement doesn't offer the complex metrical phrasings nor the competing submelodies and harmonies to an outstanding melody as do the pieces by Holst. It also does not convey the theme [of the name] properly, a key element.
If they wanna be lead astray they can. Instead of saying it's rather vain, you should say something more along the lines of it is not Holst. plain and simple. As far as the composition, it is very good. You shouldn't me so concerned with the name whereas the piece itself. If musicians weren't so worried about a name, they could actually see a good piece of music. Think about that the next time you say that. Because It's probably a lot better than anything you, or anyone else could compose.
(Pluto was discovered in 1930, Holst died in 1934, he did NOT want to write another planets piece) I personally think this is better than some of the others... It sounds much more like his pieces than "The Renewer" and it follows a mirror opposition with Mercury. Mercury is light and bouncy; this is forlorn and decrepit. If it wasn't in midi I'm sure it would also sound a LOT better.
to call this Holst is more than a disgrace, as his composition was written from 1914 to 1918, and history notes the discovery of pluto as being in 1930, which was 4 years after Holst died, therefore, there is NO WAY he would have known about the discovery to write a composition for it, however, a man named Collin Mathews DID write a composition entitled Pluto, The Renewer
pretty awful, sounds like a midi prog producing the score of a ps1 game. Not G. Holst's style with none of his real flare, to call this Holst is fraud. It may be a tribute but it's a fairly poor one. Others have crafted better plutos to complete this suite
Not, that names are coincident because the astrological meaning of Mercury and Mars are the same that the meaning of the roman gods, but the meaning of the names of the movement are just astrological (and the name of one movement is the same of a chapter of a book about Astrology), as Holst told, really Holst was obsessed with occultism and similar things, as you can check if you read about him.
Pluto´s movement was a continuation of "The planets", but Holst is not the writer, because Holst died in 1934 and this movement is date in 2000 year.
Also, the nickname is not "Lord of the underworld", else "The renewer", because "The planets" has not relation with greek-roman myths and deities, where Pluto is the god of the Hades and Lord of the underworld, it´s a sign of ignorante, because de sense of the entire suite is the relation of the planets with astrology, which Holst believe in.
The names of the other movements are conected with his astrological meanings, and some of them are agree with the characters of the roman gods, but not all the planets has relation with their similar roman god (as Jupiter).
Also, if the meaning were the roman gods, why there aren´t any movement for Terra (Gea), god of Earth?, just in astrology has sense thinking in planets without think in Earth.
I don´t believe in Astrology, but Gustav Holst did it.
@SpiderRiderKya Pluto was actually discovered four years before Holst died. Holst never had any intention on writing a piece for it, either. Then he died a few years later. :(
There are times when this melody reminds me of THE DEVIL'S TRIANGLE by King Crimson.
The television show called IN SEARCH OF... with Leonard Nimoy as your host used to play this King Crimson composition whenever they wanted to do a show about the Bermuda Triangle.
Other than that, the sound is somber, eerie, and invokes deep from within the mind that which most humans are afraid to face.
Interesting conterpoint too, and the talent of this composer still makes me want to listen to his work.
Yea actually holst did not feel like writing pluto because the planets distracted everyone from all his other works so he never wanted to write one but they commissioned Colin Matthews to write Pluto, the renewer.
Definitely not Holst......doesn't even sound like his work. I don't like it....especially that someone is using his name on something he didn't write.
@SuperGoldfish1999 Well, not needed to insult :-)) Apart from this, we complaint about the fact that Holst did not show any interest on "completion" of his masterpiece.
@GardenerH2O Yes, but they are experts in their field simply trying to keep scientific terminology consistant. Your opinion is of absolutely no consequence
@GardenerH2O pluto is not a planet it is a drawf planet it is to far and too smal to be a planet it is a ball of ice with a even smaller ball of ice orbitting it, this is very common with a large astaroidord in this case dwaf planet pluto is a big dwaf planet it should be a astaroid it is smaller than our moon
@GardenerH2O pluto is not a planet it is a drawf planet it is to far and too smal to be a planet it is a ball of ice with a even smaller ball of ice orbitting it, this is very common with a large astaroidord in this case dwaf planet pluto is a big dwaf planet it should be a astaroid it is smaller than our moon
@hnrksl a planet as what we talk to be a full sized planet has to fit into a criteria their are loads of drawf planets and pluto is to small to be a planet and is big for a drawf planet its a ball of ice in a huge orbit i think it should be a astorired
@GardenerH2O there are hundreds of other dwarf planets in our solar system just like pluto so if u count pluto as a planet u have to count them as well
@GardenerH2O The problem is that we have found ALOT of bodies in the solar system of similar or larger size than pluto - so we could either cut pluto as a planet or add dozens of new ones
that's the one I have on my iPod. I'm aware that there were like three different compositions of Pluto after Holst's death but i thought Renewer was the only one that was officially published
Were this an actual symphonic recording, it would be pretty cool. It's no Holst, but it's still a good piece of music, and IMHO better than Pluto: The Renewer by Colin Matthews.
Actually, there is already a "Pluto", by Collin Matthews who wrote "Pluto: The Renewer" In memory of Holst and his daughter, who not only was an inspiration for THE PLANETS and sang in the Choir for for "Venus", but was rumored to ask his ill dad in finishing the Planets.... He just didn't care for the Planets and thought people were overreacting their praise toward . Once she died, Holst's student, Matthews, made Pluto: The Renewer This is just Synth and a cheap Mars knock-off :(
@Karlfalcon Thanks for undeceiving me. Colin Matthews actually wrote this piece. On Wikipedia "The planets" (section 4.1) it says that "He [Holst] had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works.
Actually, he wal still alive when Pluto was discovered. However, he chose not to write a piece for Pluto anyway... but you are right, he probably had the last laugh.
A good effort, but doesn't quite capture the sound of Holst. Would be better if real instruments were used, as real instruments have a wider range of expressiveness than synthed counterparts on a keyboard. I still commend you for your compositional ability, if it was you who wrote this.
Ok, I appreciate your effort, it's interesting and quite nice work, but to me it would suit Starcraft (especially if it was a movie, not a videogame). Good work, but not Holst style, but keep on working.
Indeed, is fairly creepy done and sinthethized, and reminds me of that Burzum "unofficial prison release".
I am sorry, but it has not the epic, orchestral atmosphere of The Planets Suite (and I am not speaking about the instruments, but the composition itself).
This is not Holst or Matthews version. It sounds too MIDI, in some part it's like a combination between Mars and Neptune and some part is like the music from Avatar. but some part around the end of minute 4 is nice.
Who is the composer of this piece? I found this one on Limewire a few years ago but I know it isn't Holst and i looked up another guy who wrote a piece for Pluto but his song sounded nothing like this.
umm just to tell you guys Holst did not compose this peice.During his time I think 1914? Pluto was not founded but four years after his death they discovered Pluto so he did not write this peice.
No, he didn't make an movement for Earth... nor Pluto (it wasn't a planet and he had no desire to continue the Planets), someone else decided to do it for him.
This was not written by Gustavo
dillasbebs622 2 days ago
This was not written by Colin Mather
dillasbebs622 2 days ago
I should also mention that the above subtitle is wrong it should be Pluto - The Renewer
420istoday 1 week ago
My high school band done the planets my eighth grade year, it was awesome, but no pluto was not written by Holst, it was written by Colin Matthews, in memory of Holst's late daughter.
420istoday 1 week ago
No shit! Holst didn't write this... Pluto wasn't even discovered during his life... so.. I think Mathews piece... should possibly be included in future performances of THE PLANETS... just a thought... good ideas,,, sorry, can't stand the recording, but the piece is great!!
gwhubert 1 month ago
@gwhubert Pluto was discovered four years before holst died. He just didn't want to write another movement
123456789zasdfghjkl 2 weeks ago
Gustav Holst didn't write this...it was Colin Mathews, and it's called "Pluto the Renewer", not lord of the underworld.
metallidude666 1 month ago
@metallidude666 This definitely is no the Colin Mathews version of Pluto. Does any one else have an idea?
melvarooner 1 month ago
Can I buy this song anywhere online? I've looked on iTunes and couldn't find it, but I'm not sure I was looking for the right name or composer.
melvarooner 1 month ago
Sounds pretty alright... but this title shouldn't have Holst anywhere near the name. That's a travesty and it shames Holst's name.
ReeAsian 1 month ago
-Hugs Pluto-
You will always be a planet to me.
beyondxbirthdayx1993 3 months ago
Holst didn't write this, you know...
BubbaHoggit 4 months ago 2
Pluto is no longer a planet. Holst will have to refund the money to us immediately he made from royalties from this song that is no longer valid.
monos70 6 months ago
whatever .. synths
deepcut66 6 months ago
This is really creepy, but it is completely awesome!
microbemanjacob 6 months ago 4
Mary Magdalene helped me search for Aliens!
SuperGoldfish1999 7 months ago
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Pluto need to be restated as a planet if you agree with then thumb up my post.
strangerinwhite 7 months ago
This is NOT the Colin Matthews composition (Pluto, the Renewer), as was previously mentioned. It doesn't even slightly resemble it; the Matthews composition is not even tonal.
peteytheaardvark 7 months ago
Finally i come to Youtube and learn somthing That you for the non-ignorance here lol
tev804 8 months ago
@EVILgnarlygnome Apparently, you don't understand what sarcasm is. And your assumption of how I classify the solar system is incorrect, also.
SuperCartiel 8 months ago
@EVILgnarlygnome My, touched a nerve, haven't we?
Your own answer was good enough for me.
And it doesn't matter in the long run if Pluto is a planet or not.
All that matters is that God put it there for everyone to enjoy, bicker about, or write music for.
And you don't dare call GOD a moron, do you?
SuperCartiel 8 months ago
@EVILgnarlygnome Well, I guess I am an obtuse idiot. I don't allow organizations to rule my life, and I consider it wrong to alter the shape of the solar system just to suit the vanity of science.
It's also wrong to call Percival Lowell an 'obtuse idiot'. He used much of his life to find Pluto, and now, because of this IAU, his remarkable discovery is thus rendered pointless. Shameful.
SuperCartiel 8 months ago
@EVILgnarlygnome Oh? I didn't know being retained or held back had anything to do with astronomy. And do you really have to have a lesser sense of intelligence or mental fitness to believe in something that teachers had taught you (and others) for decades? I have always believed that Pluto was a planet, and now, because of this, I'm mentally ill. Really...
SuperCartiel 8 months ago
@daneeloo Your grammar is terrible. Your comment that somehow garnered 13 likes makes absolutely no sense. You're either an idiot or a troll.
MachineElf2113 8 months ago
@daneeloo You're grammar is terrible. Your comment that somehow garnered 13 likes makes absolutely no sense. You're either an idiot or a troll.
MachineElf2113 8 months ago
There are also dwarf planets located in between the planets we consider part of the eight.
tapixt 9 months ago
I think they might change their minds once their probe gets there. great song regardless
MrKenichi20 9 months ago
What is the real name of this song? Its actually not from Gustav Holst or Colin Matthews. What is this really from????? I want to figure this out cause everyone on the internet has got it wrong. plz help get this straight
mcfaddle1 10 months ago
All this song does is tell the forbidden zone that is Los Angeles High School Culture
SuperGoldfish1999 10 months ago
"Pluto was discovered in 1930, four years before Holst's death, and was hailed by astronomers as the ninth planet. Holst, however, expressed no interest in writing a movement for the new planet. He had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works. In 2000, the Hallé Orchestra commissioned the English composer Colin Matthews, an authority on Holst, to write a new eighth movement, which he called "Pluto, the Renewer"."
marigailtheamazing 11 months ago 3
epic chimes and timpini at about 3:06 <33
xx19aerosmith74xx 11 months ago
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who really cares if pluto is a planet or not,this post is not about pointless and meaningless debates , but more from a dude who loves music and want's to share it
ml3bianchi 11 months ago
who really cares if pluto is a planet or not,this post is not about pointless debates and self importance but more from a dude who loves music and want's to share it
ml3bianchi 11 months ago
Pluto was big enough for your mom...
qthepowerful 11 months ago
Totally expected this to be a rick roll
makoman115 11 months ago
If you people haven't noticed.. This is suppose to be about the music, not the astronomy of the piece. Let us all just enjoy the music.
herocko 11 months ago 2
I like this piece of music
Aragon218 1 year ago
It is the piece Pluto, lord of the underworld, but it's not by Holst. It's by Colin Mathews, in memory of Holst.
Phaystrom 1 year ago 2
lord of the underworld (bwah,ha,ha)
KBaker76 1 year ago
i like pluto too much to consider just an oversized iceshard or meteor with three moons and is as big as mercury or almost the size of mercury
youngpop1000 1 year ago
@youngpop1000 Well actually it is considerably smaller than Mercury plus it is not classified as an oversized iceshard or meteor it is actually classed as a Dwarf Planet so it maintains some of its significance in the Solar System however I do agree that i'm sad to see it declassified as I like Pluto too especially considering that recent studies have shown that Pluto might be larger than Eris after all.
ECPproductions100 1 year ago
Of course, it's not from Holst. However, as any music, we can argue about its quality: someone will like it and some others will dislike it :S
I don't care a shit about what Astronomers can say... but in Astrology, Pluto WORKS. Even discovered in 1930 by Clyde Tombaugh, there are enough studies about its influence and progression. Astronomers are only "scientists". people who only believe in what they can see (bah)...
aguador67 1 year ago
We all know its not Gustav Holst and never did he write an eighth movement but can we all just enjoy it...i mean its not horrible but it aint Holst either. I kind of enjoyed it.
stephanie010payton 1 year ago
It's ok Pluto, I'm not a planet either.
mattsdabom 1 year ago 33
It's ok Pluto, I'm not a planet either.
mattsdabom 1 year ago
Ummm, is this from Holst's MICKEY MAUS suite?
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 \m/ lol
tzeqin 1 year ago
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Hey guys.....Holst wrote pluto???Really? How cool........I am gonna tell all my friends!
phebo1986 1 year ago
Hey guys.....Holst wrote pluto???Really? How cool........I am gonna tell all my friends!
phebo1986 1 year ago
Holst never wrote Pluto because he knew it wasn't a planet
MrPerfs 1 year ago
@MrPerfs no Pluto hadnt been discovered til years after he wrote Neptune
bucknuts95 1 year ago
It's so sad that Holst didn't want to continue writing Pluto to add to the Planets when it was discovered .. he did the other planets and they were all so awesome .. especially Jupiter!!! But, the guy who wrote this was awesome too ...
Lcxpwog 1 year ago
Holst never wrote a Pluto. And this is definitely nowhere near the quality of Holst's 'The Planets' - which wasn't even his better work!
karossii 1 year ago
this in not Holst!!!!!!!!!!!!!! um hello if you know history pluto was found very shorty before he died!!!!!!!!! so saying that this is Holst is an insult to his creative genius!!!!!!!!! the thought of insulting an amazing composer like him is just sicking
Goddess10123 1 year ago
this is not holst's, as everyone has already said. i do like it though, a lot, even though it sounds nothing like his style, haha. however, "lord of the underworld"? uh, no. not this music anyway. especially not the happy ending. beautiful, but not the theme.
jayce2728 1 year ago
midi... fail
freshhh1994 1 year ago 2
Wtf??? Sounds like a bad Indiana Jones knock-off score. Shouldn't be labeled Holst!!
Drummergenetic 1 year ago
Well, I liked it. Said Eddie, hopefully. :-)
payitforwardeddie 1 year ago
GardenerH2O 1 year ago
GardenerH2O 1 year ago
This is absolutely not Holst's music style. And it was written by Collin Mathews.
TheBiggestMozartfan 1 year ago
@TheBiggestMozartfan but this piece is not the writed by Collin Mathews. Explore that directed by Simon Rattle
IntelRyMSACorporatio 1 year ago
Actually this was not written by Holst. Colin Matthews wrote it in the year 2000. Pluto was discovered before Holst's death but he was not of a mind to write a movement for it becuase he was distressed by the suite's popularity (yes!). Matthews, a scholar of Holst, was commissioned to write the piece because he could evoke the style of the original pieces.
MageScribe 1 year ago
make a new picture. and make sure you dont put Hoslt's name in it he. like Karlfalcon said that is being vain to him. he didnt write this so theres no need to count this as his. he died before pluto became a planet
RCT3rox 1 year ago
Holst NEVER wrote a movement for Pluto, because he didn't think the rest of the planets were especially good.
wfbgenius 1 year ago
As far as the composition, it is very good. You shouldn't me so concerned with the name whereas the piece itself. If musicians weren't so worried about a name, they could actually see a good piece of music. Think about that the next time you say that. Because It's probably a lot better than anything you, or anyone else could compose.
MonsterSpency3 1 year ago
@MonsterSpency3 It's good for an amateur, yes. But for the composer to be comparing it to one of the most famous composers in history is not only pretentious but undeserved. It doesn't fit the style of Holst and doesn't contain even a minute portion of the quality. This arrangement doesn't offer the complex metrical phrasings nor the competing submelodies and harmonies to an outstanding melody as do the pieces by Holst. It also does not convey the theme [of the name] properly, a key element.
Poxywallow 1 year ago
If they wanna be lead astray they can. Instead of saying it's rather vain, you should say something more along the lines of it is not Holst. plain and simple. As far as the composition, it is very good. You shouldn't me so concerned with the name whereas the piece itself. If musicians weren't so worried about a name, they could actually see a good piece of music. Think about that the next time you say that. Because It's probably a lot better than anything you, or anyone else could compose.
MonsterSpency3 1 year ago
(Pluto was discovered in 1930, Holst died in 1934, he did NOT want to write another planets piece) I personally think this is better than some of the others... It sounds much more like his pieces than "The Renewer" and it follows a mirror opposition with Mercury. Mercury is light and bouncy; this is forlorn and decrepit. If it wasn't in midi I'm sure it would also sound a LOT better.
TheVerandure 1 year ago
to call this Holst is more than a disgrace, as his composition was written from 1914 to 1918, and history notes the discovery of pluto as being in 1930, which was 4 years after Holst died, therefore, there is NO WAY he would have known about the discovery to write a composition for it, however, a man named Collin Mathews DID write a composition entitled Pluto, The Renewer
ohssurvivor 1 year ago
I agree that this shouldn't be labeled as Holst and it does sound a but like a midi, but the actual piece isn't half bad in my opinion.
randomuserguy 1 year ago
pretty awful, sounds like a midi prog producing the score of a ps1 game. Not G. Holst's style with none of his real flare, to call this Holst is fraud. It may be a tribute but it's a fairly poor one. Others have crafted better plutos to complete this suite
BeHazey 1 year ago
Wow. Dumbasses. Cuz Pluto was totally discovered in 1914 when holst wrote The Planets.. what a shame.
93Kylie 1 year ago 2
Best one
lllMrGrimlll 1 year ago
Pluto, Jupiter and Mars are my favorites
madelaine1is1awesome 1 year ago
This is really a disgrace.
AnkoraFeonix 1 year ago 2
This is from that old program Nine Worlds, isn't it?
3DPlanets 1 year ago
Not, that names are coincident because the astrological meaning of Mercury and Mars are the same that the meaning of the roman gods, but the meaning of the names of the movement are just astrological (and the name of one movement is the same of a chapter of a book about Astrology), as Holst told, really Holst was obsessed with occultism and similar things, as you can check if you read about him.
daneeloo 1 year ago
well its worth a go. no harm done. He's caught Holst's style ok.
mensamoo 1 year ago
pluto no planet, eh?
omgtkseth 1 year ago
It used to be a planet :)
voodooriders 1 year ago
sounds really bad
punksuit69 1 year ago
Pluto´s movement was a continuation of "The planets", but Holst is not the writer, because Holst died in 1934 and this movement is date in 2000 year.
Also, the nickname is not "Lord of the underworld", else "The renewer", because "The planets" has not relation with greek-roman myths and deities, where Pluto is the god of the Hades and Lord of the underworld, it´s a sign of ignorante, because de sense of the entire suite is the relation of the planets with astrology, which Holst believe in.
daneeloo 1 year ago 18
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The names of the other movements are conected with his astrological meanings, and some of them are agree with the characters of the roman gods, but not all the planets has relation with their similar roman god (as Jupiter).
Also, if the meaning were the roman gods, why there aren´t any movement for Terra (Gea), god of Earth?, just in astrology has sense thinking in planets without think in Earth.
I don´t believe in Astrology, but Gustav Holst did it.
daneeloo 1 year ago
@daneeloo astrology is supposedly based on the position of other planets in relation to earth, anyway, god of rock is hard to make music by
darksminky 1 year ago
There is 2 movements related to Mythology....Mercury-the Winged Messenger and Mars-the Bringer of War.
Mercury was the Roman god of trade. The messenger. And Mars was the roman god of war. So "The Planets" is slightly related to Mythology.
xXGeeknProud1225Xx 1 year ago
@daneeloo Actually he'd considered and started it (I think... citation needed) but discontinued. However was picked up and finished later.
singletona082 10 months ago
@daneeloo You know what else is a sign of ignorance? How terrible your spelling and grammar is.
benadgatemusic 9 months ago
Holst didn't write this because Pluto hadn't been discovered at the time. but other composers/writers have written pieces for Pluto.
SpiderRiderKya 2 years ago
@SpiderRiderKya Pluto was actually discovered four years before Holst died. Holst never had any intention on writing a piece for it, either. Then he died a few years later. :(
FellstarOverlord 2 years ago
it sounds sorta like the background music for doom, i love it!!!!!
soemad5 2 years ago
Pluto is most definetly a planet, Big Poppa E says so in his Ode to Pluto.
mistyjocasta 2 years ago
@mistyjocasta. yeah, well if that's so, then there are rings around Uranus
4MiFans 1 year ago
There are times when this melody reminds me of THE DEVIL'S TRIANGLE by King Crimson.
The television show called IN SEARCH OF... with Leonard Nimoy as your host used to play this King Crimson composition whenever they wanted to do a show about the Bermuda Triangle.
Other than that, the sound is somber, eerie, and invokes deep from within the mind that which most humans are afraid to face.
Interesting conterpoint too, and the talent of this composer still makes me want to listen to his work.
Nguli34689 2 years ago
Yea actually holst did not feel like writing pluto because the planets distracted everyone from all his other works so he never wanted to write one but they commissioned Colin Matthews to write Pluto, the renewer.
neofox1991 2 years ago
Definitely not Holst......doesn't even sound like his work. I don't like it....especially that someone is using his name on something he didn't write.
plaugherface 2 years ago
Pretty Sick. I like this more than some of Holst's Work.
holyshitlolz 2 years ago
1:34 to 2:05 is so Fucking Badass
SuperGoldfish1999 2 years ago
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Holst died four years after Pluto discovered, why didn't the Lazy Bastard write the Pluto score then?
Stupid Fucking Lazy Bastard, Can't Even write a Score about his Planets while he's alive
SuperGoldfish1999 2 years ago
@SuperGoldfish1999 Well, not needed to insult :-)) Apart from this, we complaint about the fact that Holst did not show any interest on "completion" of his masterpiece.
aguador67 2 years ago
Yes, pluto isnt a planet anymore. Get over it, honestly.
elishot 2 years ago
That's alright if some Astronomers don't consider Pluto to be a planet anymore...I don't consider them to be Astronomers either.
GardenerH2O 2 years ago 55
@GardenerH2O
nice comment. I agree.
But i gotta congratulate u on the comment, tottaly AWSOME! ;)
jimmysluv321 1 year ago
@GardenerH2O Yes, but they are experts in their field simply trying to keep scientific terminology consistant. Your opinion is of absolutely no consequence
VenndorBrine 1 year ago
@GardenerH2O pluto is not a planet it is a drawf planet it is to far and too smal to be a planet it is a ball of ice with a even smaller ball of ice orbitting it, this is very common with a large astaroidord in this case dwaf planet pluto is a big dwaf planet it should be a astaroid it is smaller than our moon
TheBarty92 11 months ago
@GardenerH2O pluto is not a planet it is a drawf planet it is to far and too smal to be a planet it is a ball of ice with a even smaller ball of ice orbitting it, this is very common with a large astaroidord in this case dwaf planet pluto is a big dwaf planet it should be a astaroid it is smaller than our moon
TheBarty92 11 months ago
@TheBarty92 it has planet in it's name, yet it is not a planet? We need to talk to our fucking astronomers.
hnrksl 10 months ago
@hnrksl a planet as what we talk to be a full sized planet has to fit into a criteria their are loads of drawf planets and pluto is to small to be a planet and is big for a drawf planet its a ball of ice in a huge orbit i think it should be a astorired
TheBarty92 10 months ago
@TheBarty92 ok I understand what you meant now, and I'm only replying because if I don't, 50 other people will spam me with the same answer.
hnrksl 10 months ago
@GardenerH2O there are hundreds of other dwarf planets in our solar system just like pluto so if u count pluto as a planet u have to count them as well
1516Tom 10 months ago
@1516Tom in our galaxy yes but not in our solar system unless you are counting some of jupiter's moons....
stiffmajjthegiant 9 months ago
@stiffmajjthegiant no, beyond the orbit of Neptune there are lots of the other dwarf planets just like pluto such as eris, makemake and haumea.
1516Tom 9 months ago
@GardenerH2O lol too bad whether or not they're astronomers is not up for question. It's called science.
Crezth 9 months ago
@GardenerH2O The problem is that we have found ALOT of bodies in the solar system of similar or larger size than pluto - so we could either cut pluto as a planet or add dozens of new ones
neverfearchrisishere 9 months ago
isn't it Pluto, the Renewer?
that's the one I have on my iPod. I'm aware that there were like three different compositions of Pluto after Holst's death but i thought Renewer was the only one that was officially published
nosense82 2 years ago
To be fair, this kind of suits. Pity Pluto isn`t a planet
151PC 2 years ago
holst didnt composed a pluto but many others right their pluto which some maybe floating around somwherw but it isn't holst
marchingbandflute 2 years ago
wicked chill name for it and its ok but a bit too gamer ff but awesome job anyways!
SakuraSyaoranTC 2 years ago
This is so not Holst but it's still kinda cool
xenonangel799 2 years ago
Hmm..
I don't hate it, but I don't like it all that much either.
Holst would have had something better in mind. His compositions were simply genius.
Lupehkun 2 years ago
Were this an actual symphonic recording, it would be pretty cool. It's no Holst, but it's still a good piece of music, and IMHO better than Pluto: The Renewer by Colin Matthews.
scavhunter 2 years ago
yea i was wondering if this was his work, but thought it couldn't be because some of the sounds sound like they come from a synthasizer or something
CarpeDiem121892 2 years ago
You're right...it kind of does.
NoNameLikeThisOne 2 years ago
This couldnt possibly be Holst as Pluto wasnt classed as a planet in Holsts Lifetime!!!
MrDavidHutchison 2 years ago
Actually Pluto was discovered 4 years before Holst's death. But you are technically correct, the best kind of correct, this is not Holst.
SlaytanicEd 2 years ago 3
This is not a holst composition! Seriously I like this one but nothing beats Holst's own music
RossGallie 2 years ago
What the fuck?
SynerJetics 2 years ago
pluto wasnt done by holst
Sapphiregriffin 2 years ago 2
the three notes that keep repeating are the first four that keep repeating in nepune.
Awesome6853 2 years ago
ehh i felt nothing when i heard this
good effort tho
real intruments would be nice too
chouamatada2 2 years ago 4
Actually, there is already a "Pluto", by Collin Matthews who wrote "Pluto: The Renewer" In memory of Holst and his daughter, who not only was an inspiration for THE PLANETS and sang in the Choir for for "Venus", but was rumored to ask his ill dad in finishing the Planets.... He just didn't care for the Planets and thought people were overreacting their praise toward . Once she died, Holst's student, Matthews, made Pluto: The Renewer This is just Synth and a cheap Mars knock-off :(
hyp64DD 2 years ago 3
Please do not label this as Holst. It is rather vain and insulting to his memory. We do not want to lead some poor soul astray, now do we.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago 57
WTF is this crap?
I'm offended for Holst!
alyssacroacia 2 years ago
@Karlfalcon, exactly.. he didn't even consider writing anything about pluto, even though it was found 4 years before he died.
rainbowduckies10 1 year ago
@Karlfalcon Thanks for undeceiving me. Colin Matthews actually wrote this piece. On Wikipedia "The planets" (section 4.1) it says that "He [Holst] had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works.
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phebo1986 1 year ago
@Karlfalcon someone's is a bigot
phebo1986 1 year ago
@phebo1986
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Karlfalcon 1 year ago
this actually not that bad
if you showed me this when i first herd the planets i would of believed that it was part of it but that was long long ago
Philbatrom 2 years ago
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EagleOnTheRhine 2 years ago
Actually, he wal still alive when Pluto was discovered. However, he chose not to write a piece for Pluto anyway... but you are right, he probably had the last laugh.
breathless46 2 years ago
no.. he lived to see pluto be discovered but he decided not to write anything
atoman88 2 years ago
If we all know what you know, we would know very little indeed.
Pluto - discovered 1930
Holst - died 1934
He only didn't write another movement for Pluto because he did not feel The Planets was that great a work to begin with.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago 2
He was wrong.... "The Planets" is an EXCELLENT work!!! At least I think so... :)
CharlieBladeRemus 2 years ago
A good effort, but doesn't quite capture the sound of Holst. Would be better if real instruments were used, as real instruments have a wider range of expressiveness than synthed counterparts on a keyboard. I still commend you for your compositional ability, if it was you who wrote this.
ILoveHandles 2 years ago
this is terrible! its all synth! nothing even close to classical music! i dont picture the underworld! this is just flashy experimental crap!
looney1023 2 years ago
Ok, I appreciate your effort, it's interesting and quite nice work, but to me it would suit Starcraft (especially if it was a movie, not a videogame). Good work, but not Holst style, but keep on working.
fieldpriest 2 years ago 2
It sounds like the theme music of a low budget Sci-Fi movie from the year 1989
SuperGoldfish1999 2 years ago 4
Indeed, is fairly creepy done and sinthethized, and reminds me of that Burzum "unofficial prison release".
I am sorry, but it has not the epic, orchestral atmosphere of The Planets Suite (and I am not speaking about the instruments, but the composition itself).
However, it would fit, as much, a videogame.
Valtamjarl 2 years ago 3
poor effort.......
fuckuucunts 2 years ago
It's too techno to be part of the planets it should've been more orchestral the synthesizer and other electronic stuff ruins the whole piece
KingFlairBoy 2 years ago
4:41 - 5:48 was a nice try. That's only part I like. I'm sorry, it's just not Holst.
TheDeepThinkingDoll 2 years ago
i dont care if its but holst or not its really cool
RCT3rox 2 years ago
This is not Holst or Matthews version. It sounds too MIDI, in some part it's like a combination between Mars and Neptune and some part is like the music from Avatar. but some part around the end of minute 4 is nice.
rochelimit55555 2 years ago 3
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Pluto doesn't deserve a movement.
Unless you're going to rename the entire suite as "The Planets [and Dwarf Planets and Planetoids]"
AphoticCosmos 2 years ago
This is not part of the planet suite and not writen by holst.
SurreyViolinHero 2 years ago 3
Yeah, seems very unlikely that Holst would have scribbled a note next to the score "Phase effect on some of the strings!"
sehnsucht777 2 years ago 2
This is terrible...
Lightshayde 2 years ago 4
Apparently this is an original composition. NOT Holst. Not bad though. Pluto was not a part of this composition.
burger414 2 years ago 2
pluto was discovered in the 1950s one of the cosmoogical planets not mythological planets like holsts.
spacepatrolman 2 years ago
Oh no it's mythological alright
KingFlairBoy 2 years ago
...is this a disco? please, mr. "Matthews", I appreciate the good will, but this is too... 'not-Holst'.
doctormantell 2 years ago 2
ahaha 1:09 made me laugh way too much.
I agree with the other people, this isn't Holst at all. In fact it sounds more like something you would get on Babylon 5 or maybe even Star Treck lol
BreadEatingPagan 2 years ago 2
this sounds so synthesized! -_-'
not to sound redundant and repeat what ppl just said...but Pluto wasn't even discovered at the time, so Holst couldn't possibly have written this
the descending thing at 1:27 made me laugh lmao! :D
Cierra9G 2 years ago 2
Pluto wasnt discovered yet =_=''' therefore he never wrote a section for Pluto. O_o
composers after him wrote a suite for Pluto . .and i believe Collin Matthews wrote the "official version".
1elva3cigam 2 years ago
ITS NOT HOLST and to be honest it sounds too 80s, but it would be cool if holst did write one on pluto as he was lord of the underworld.
POODEDPEY 2 years ago
this is a fake....holst never composed pluto.....
the music isn't even acoustic either...
jpalacio25 2 years ago
If this is Holst, I'm Hans Zimmer.
JoeSnyderwalk 2 years ago 2
Maybe you are...
ShellShokdDan 2 years ago
Hehe, are you kidding? I wish.
JoeSnyderwalk 2 years ago
lol :)
ShellShokdDan 2 years ago
Who is the composer of this piece? I found this one on Limewire a few years ago but I know it isn't Holst and i looked up another guy who wrote a piece for Pluto but his song sounded nothing like this.
lookatdoor 2 years ago
Holst did not do Pluto or Earth because in his time they didn't dicovered Pluto and he didn't do Earth because he didn't know what it looked like.
shuppet34 2 years ago
A frisbee was originaly called a pluto platter because pluto was discovered in the 1950s when this toy became a fad .
spacepatrolman 2 years ago
umm just to tell you guys Holst did not compose this peice.During his time I think 1914? Pluto was not founded but four years after his death they discovered Pluto so he did not write this peice.
shuppet34 2 years ago
Ummm... do they have an Earth movement?
clarientboye111 2 years ago
No, he didn't make an movement for Earth... nor Pluto (it wasn't a planet and he had no desire to continue the Planets), someone else decided to do it for him.
MisoSoop 2 years ago