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  • So the gun technique..is Five Swords?

    I'm guessing that in this scenario, the attacker either has no concept of weapon range, or he's incredibly insecure about his shooting accuracy. And, there are no accomplices or witnesses/bystanders either.

    I too prefer a grappling solution to a weapon attack, over the risk of attempting to strike an opponent and hoping that it disarms him.  With all the stand-up Jiujitsu incorporated into American Kenpo, there are safer techniques with "Margin for Error".

  • @Deilgyre Agreed, there are many jiujitsu techniques in Ed Parker's kenpo...I like them all, including the gun defense ones. So the choice we face if this horrible day were to occur: is it more risky, with one attacker, to try and grapple the gun away or to try and eject it 30 feet away and deal with the one attacker. Which is better? Better to make the right choice, even better never to face this situation.

  • This guy is Legit!

  • Thin guy's got a lot of endurance!!! That shuts me out, period!!!! Very nice, though. . .

  • nice sequence man, and yes, i read the despription..i would like to see more kenpo posts of techniques dealing with less "static" attacks, meaning the opponent keeps throwing. i think that would help validate the art to outsiders. i think alot of kenpo is stuck in the "demo" phase. i think your hinting at that here, love to see you boil it down for street apps. no disrespect of course, i thought this was really cool!

  • ha...ha...ha..

  • very nice, grand master john lengyel

  • OK VERY nice. BUT isn't there a technique that simply takes the gun away from him and quickly puts him on the defense? I think there is. Try a video with that and I think you'll win back the support of even the strongest of critics. Same with a knife. My kid trains under the legendary Jack Morris btw. You should have ended it with the Leap of Death :)

  • @ltleli I am not trying to win over critics. Please read my description: it is very long and very detailed; this demo is completely fictitious and is for showcasing several Ed Parker's Kenpo techniques, grafted together. I couldn't have ended with Leap of Death because Leap of Death is for a step through right punch and, furthermore, the attacker fell face up and the ending for Leap of Death assumes that he lands face down. Thank you for your comments and best wishes to you.

  • if it takes this long, I have wasted my energy, kenpo is done using the least amount of energy, least amount of stikes and time, most amount of damage,, Good demo thou

  • @KidsKicksforChrist please read the description of this demo. The purpose of this demo is to showcase a string of Ed Parker's kenpo techniques. And that is the design for this demo assuming an attacker that is on drugs or some other scenario where he is not taken out. Of course, that is what kenpo is designed for: devastating effectiveness in the least amount of time. Thank you for commenting.

  • all of you commentors are making jokes but he is not hitting the guy for real if he was the guy would go down after the second or third strike yall are just hatin on the video and to you who said that someone would come behind you with a gun and just shoot you most likely someone just wants to steal your money and scare you so they wont actually shoot you this is an alright video some people just dont know what they are watching

    never had any real training just ignorantly criticizing

  • :-))

  • hahaha

  • hahaha too good man.. the disarming was pretty legit though..

  • Pick the gun up and shoot his ass. haha.

    Great disarming move.Good stuff guys.

    Conan

  • awesome display of skill and power but if it takes all that ass whoopin to put this dude down RUN.....he ain't human!!!

  • In all of the discussion you guys are missing a very important point...If someone points a gun at you and does not pull the trigger this means that they really didn't want to shoot you. or they would have already.

    This gives you the opportunity to act, I prefer a method that maintains control of the weapon, and possibly taking it away from him, instead of knocking it to the ground (see Krav Maga)

  • In reality if someone wanted to kill you, they would just come up from behind with a .20 cal. in a dark alley, put it up right below your ear pointed at your head and pull the trigger. The low cal. and the compression of gasses against your head will muffle the blast and be virtually inaudible. There will also be no exit wound because the cal. of the gun will not be enough to penetrate the skull. Point is if someone was really trying to kill you, you wouldn't even know what hit you.

  • That is an important point. But obviously guns are used to intimidate too...note all the convenience store cam videos. But that is NOT the point of this video. The description of this video at the top right, has the point: to showcase some Ed Parker's kenpo techniques.

  • Yeah I never really thought of that but I was just saying if someone points a gun at you chances are he's not gonna shoot you otherwise he already would've shot you.

  • Did you finish him off with the dance of death

  • a combination of different techniques: part of the Thundering Hammers extension, part of the Destructive Twins throw from the extension to that technique, and the slicing instep kick from that extension too and other moves...

  • and you know all this in exact detail how??....

  • Exact detail? I can tell you this much. If I was planning on killing you, I'd wait for you to come into a dark alley and take you out from 20 yards away. Either that or I'd come silently from behind and put a hole right below your ear into your skull. Both ways you would have no way to defend against it.

  • I think by then if u have busted out with all those mad combos and ur opponent is not down..

    u just might be in some serious problems -_-

  • the move is called the phuck-u-up waterfall of extreme punishment....lol...well it should be it looked pretty full on.

  • hey wait i can't understand the moves

  • ya u aint the only one

  • i can tell u the moves near the 40 mark are just good old ground hitting

  • Hahahahahaha

  • The troll knows not what he speaks of, Mr. Park is just playing around w/some ideas, thats whats its all about. He could be more deadly if he wanted, you have no right to speak that way about any person asian or not, we all do are best, what you think you can do and what you can REALLY DO are two different things. Peace to you sir

  • Jim , I'm trying to get in some kind of shape to train w/ you sometime, are you still in touch w/ Grandmaster Tatum? I know your into it, I am also again finally

  • thank you for the clip i read your info cleared everything right up thanks for the demo salute.

  • "Oh you're going to shoot me in the head with a gun? How about I hit you repeatedly while you convulse uncontrollably"

    Looks like a lot of flailing around. Is it mandatory to hit the person seven hundred times, why not just hit him once or twice correctly and save the time and energy. In weapon defense, time is a factor, maybe?

  • Please read the description of the video, it will answer some of your protestations. You said, "...why not just hit him once or twice 'correctly'..." Answer: It's a difference in philosophy...Ed Parker's kenpo teaches a relentless "overkill"...a "neverending stream of responses"...you may never need it...but, what if you miss with that hit that was SUPPOSED to be correct, as you say...please post your video or tell us where it is...thanks.

  • Where is the weapon control? Risky business here. Unarmed techniques don't always translate well to armed scenarios. Just my opinion.

  • Please read my description before you make any more statements. Secondly, let me ask you something I've asked myself: is TRYING to control the weapon ALWAYS the best option? Yes, I KNOW, most, if not all martial arts intstructors teach you to "control the weapon"...good luck if the gun guy fights you...and before you freak out and write all kinds of stuff from your keyboard, let me just suggest to you, think about my question. Here, the gun ended up about 40 feet away. Respectfully, Jim

  • The weapon is a force multiplier, and he who has it, has control of the situation. Knocking the weapon away is actually a difficult task, even sparring. All I am saying is that you should use increase the chance that you will have control of the weapon, or that it is out of play completely. Dropping it nearby is a threat to both. You seem to know what you are doing unarmed, but a disorienting strike will not stop a knife or from blindly pulling the trigger. Assume the worst, not the best.

  • One more reply and let's put this to rest...unless you've tried to control a gun in a real situation, I can't say that you are right in 100% of the scenarios...did you read my description? I don't think so. Of course, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTROL THE GUN. All the kenpo gun defense techniques teach this. Bottom line: I'll assume you are a good martial artist. AND I hope neither of us has to prove the other right/wrong in a real scenario. Respectfully, Jim

  • wtf?

  • Cool, much respect. When you guys fight, or spar, your hand are up right?

  • I'm gonna kill you!

    It's alright...

    lol

  • I always enjoy seeing what other KC martial artist have to offer.

  • one thing i love about kenpo is the control u get... u can do this demo... with so much control then u can turn it up in a real fight and kick butt...

  • WHOA!!!!! That's pretty good. We're taking American Kenpo too, but we're beginners. Thanks for showing us this "gun" self-defense move. AWESOME!!!!!!

  • Great job, excelent display of Kenpo, the problem with displaying kenpo is, to much of it is dirty, =D So many techniques are to the groin, solarplexis, knees, eyes, etc.. it is very hard to display it, in a friendly way to your partner.

    Oh, and good hand speed, a very vital piece to Kenpo

  • we are also taught when to stop and to recognise when we have done enough damage

    -HDD (blue belt)

  • please read the description...also, let us ask you...if the attacker doesn't stop, are the extra movements unnecessary? btw, we'd all like to see your video...where is it? so we can see ONLY NECESSARY MOVEMENTS...thanks!!!!

  • Awasome

  • Techniques for the "right handicapped" And???

  • This is a great video, keep it up. but i agree about the weapon control, check the barrel of the gun, some people think this is easy but it takes a while to move like that.

  • I love kenpo but i wonder why is he moving so slow...

  • now that is Kenpo that is killer great video

  • SPANISH:

    El muestra una secuencia de movimientos de auto defensa. Si una de las tecnicas que realiza es realizada con fuerza, no son necesarias las demas, pero el mostro una secuencia muy rapida de movimientos realizables, entonces es un buen ejemplo.

    ENGLISH:

    It demonstrates a sequence of movements for self-defense. If one of the techniques being done is done with force, are not necessary other, but showed a very rapid sequence of movements achievable, then it is a good example.

  • jojojojo very nice video

    good job

  • lol u MEAN kicking ass!

  • i see a lot of fast movement,but you took a big risk because you did not control the weapon. there was still a chance of the weapon discharging. I study aikido,we are taught move out of the line of fire,and then control the weapon. I still like kenpo though,if I ever decide to learn a hard style it would be kenpo

  • crazyruns: that is a great point. that is such a standard response "control the weapon" - it is standard across every martial art i have ever come across...i question this premise however in this case (please read the description)...against an "invincible" opponent, won't you both be diving for the gun? not a debate, no time to grab the gun.

  • the new chuck norris movie? ;)

  • To injure the opponent IS to control the weapon.

  • To "badly injure" (oops)Of course you can still get shot, but it's about increasing the odds of survival, not a surefire guarantee, so I agree. Don't dive for the weapon....thanx.

  • all good points...of course, it is better to control the weapon, but as in life, there are exceptions...here, there are two things to consider: first, the weapon (a heavy rubber gun) is knocked away, I think, about 30 feet...the guy is still pissed and active...so do you say, "dang, I broke the rule of 'not grabbing the weapon'" so you dive for it with him? your choice and your decision...

  • What the...what was the point of all of that? Grab and point the gun away, kick to the groin, turn the gun at the attacker, fire. Or if you don't want to fire, get the gun out after the groin kick and beat him with it until he's out cold.

  • Dashblades2: please take a deep breath and read the description. it will answer your questions. thanks.

  • that was alot of moves to remove a gun...jk

  • Mr. Jim Park reminds me of a younger version of Master Jody Sasaki.

  • the only thing that i would do differantly is that i would aquire the gun for my own use or at least to through it farther away but thats just me

  • The show above the waist is different than the show below the waist.

  • It was a pretty good "show" technique. But I am sure that in a real situation that you would have handled it a bit different, right?

  • i blinked what just happened lol

  • Yes if you read the description, you see what he was trying to show.

  • No offense but I really think Krav maga and San shou have a better way of dealing with guns then Kenpo karate, at least at this time.

  • no offense taken. the point of the clip is NOT gun defense (I say that in the video description). this is not even an "official" kenpo karate gun technique...the gun ends up ten feet away, hmmm, what is the technique that was done? anyhow, I hope you'll read the video description...I am really not offended, the video point is just to string together a bunch of techniques, that's it...good luck in your study of your preferred arts.

  • What happens when the perp doesn't do what he's supposed to and actually pulls the trigger there at the beginning of the sequence?

  • Thank you for your comment...I address this concern in the long description of this video up top right (you can click on more)...this is a fictitious scenario...I do not recommend this technique...well, I'll say no more because it is in the description...although it may seem contradictory, the description tries to explain all of this, btw, you are welcome to your feelings if they are still as you see things...respectfully, Jim

  • I have to learn how to use this YouTube properly. I can't even find the description to read it.

  • no problem...let's see, to the right of the actual video, you'll see where it says "subscribe" in an orange colored bar, just below that is the description of the video...most of the description is hidden so just click on the link that says "(more)" and you should see that I wrote a mountain of information and disclaimers, etc.

  • Oh I see now. Thanks. After reading your comprehensive description; I see what you were going for with the video now. Makes more sense. My advice, would be to incorporate some grappling into your game. For example, you pulled the takedown but with only one opponent, you should have just mounted and finished. But everyone's a critic in here... lol. Best wishes.

  • thats why you train with airsoft or paintball guns..besides. if someone honestly is trying to kill or rob you. WHY would they be up close? :)

  • That was fun to watch, but I don't know if I'd want to spend 45 seconds fighting the guy. That would actually be a pretty cool fight scene for a movie, though.

  • That demo was done well

  • Very impressive!!!

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