This is real interesting. I read the Power of Now about observing the self, so i guess double attention is the same. I often get stuck in the mind when emotional states arise and it's like another me experiences it all, suffering and fretting. Then i look back and wonder why i allowed myself to slip into that state. It's so hard, especially when you get insulted or feel self conscious.
Maybe...two years ago, I was talking to my pal about rude customers at work, and how some employees are bothered by that. I said "just because someone shows me their ugly face, doesn't mean I have to put on mine, I'm going to keep being happy and looking good" Is that a less eloquent way of saying "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others"?
James, how does one help children keep self-remembrance (and not identify with the little self, as they begin to learn their name and see themselves as "separate" beings, egos?) Have you a video on exercises for children ages 2-6 for example?
Begin slowly and age appropriatly...teach them not to become too "self-important" aand self-absorbed...explain how not to be overcome by the influence of others -to develope a "self-reference" attitude and to not "lose themselves" in that which 'parades' before their eyes
wow, about time I hear someone else say what Ive been thinking for about 2 years, you rock man, keep up the good work, your intellect is well appreciated!
"Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy "
- Mom? LOL...This guy just revealed the fuck out of himself. I through in the "foul" language to hammer in the point.
This guy apears to be somewhat confused as to the meaning of Don Juans message. Attention to Attention is important however, so I give him points for that. Beyond that I reconmend listening to guy preaching meditation. Get into that and you will have no desire to trade jabs on a youtube forum. Is that part of your quest for knowledge and power. None of you have gained what you claim to. If you had you would never be arguing on this board. That goes for this guy Traitz, too.
"Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy". -J. Traitz
To demonstrate Traitz' inability to bear unpleasant manifestations, or, God forbid, learn from another person, read down the thread, and see where Traitz tells me, " I respect your response and agree. As for "my hubris" I 'work' on myself daily." Then, he turns around to call me names.
Not exactly the traits of an enlightened being. Far from it.
Now, tell us all about the 'meaning of life', Traitz. You think you know the "Truth", but all you are doing is shilling a home-produced book
Your self-importance has resulted in a sense of entitlement wherein you can be as deroatory and sarcastic as you please but as soon as someone responds in kind you get self-wonded and sanctimonious...I 'called' you on your game--and now you feel self-pity
Self pitty!? You DO think too much of yourself. "Entitlement"? Where do you come up with this stuff? THe only thing I'm entitled to is air, same as you.
"Self-wounded"? You are too much. Your mish-mash philosophical soup is neither clear, nor nourishing. You call people on the very traits and issues that plague you.
You should follow the idea of Socrates: "Know thyself." You don't, yet you pretend to know everyone else from a 500 character box on YT.
You're right, Truthseeker. This guy claims all sorts of knowledge, but all he really has is a bunch of mixed up ideas from a number of sources; then claims it's his work. What a tool. He thinks he knows fast particle physics, but when I asked him who he studied with, he got all up in my face for daring to ask the question. The answer is; he never studied sub-atomic physics with anyone. He read some books. That's like reading a driver's manual and claiming to know how to build a car.
castaneda has long been exposed as a charlatan....(but journeys to Ixtlan is my fave anyway) if you guys were really so enlightgened i doubt if you would be waxing philosophical on youtube arguing about nothing important.... take a walk in nature w/no destination, follow one lesson after the other as if a child and it will lead you to more profound places. Tom Brown Jr has the best info from my experience(s). walk softly
I'm sure he'd sell you mountain property there, if he could get away with it.
What a shill.
Making a mashed-up mockery of real work, by combining it with the fictional writings of a person nobody could pin down, with a dash of high school quantum mechanics overview thrown in, to make it look deep, and mysterious.
And the truths I have found don't fit in a 500 character box.
To take Gurdjieff's teaching and bastardize it by mixing it with Castaneda is unconscionable. THen, to try to toss in quantum mechanics, without ever having properly studied under anyone is laughable.
Enjoy shilling for your book. I'm sure there are many broken, lost souls you can enjoy plundering.
Sorry about your anger and frustration...perhaps you should re-read Gurdjieff. The parallels between Gurdjieff,Castenada and Quantum physics are real ;I understand that some are overwhelmed when their cherished beliefs are expanded.
You misunderstand. I'm neither angry, nor frustrated, no matter how much you would enjoy pinning those tags on me.
First of all, Gurdjieff's work is not about "beliefs", as you incorrectly presume.
So, there are no beliefs to be "cherished".
Secondly, I am laughing at you, not angry with you; though pimping a book no bookseller will carry to people who are obviously in need of real help isn't funny.
Thirdly, you have no credentials in quantum physics, yet you pretend to know....
Let me see now: "bearing the unpleasing manifestations of others...not identifying...the non-expression of negative emotions...not internally considering...you are quite the Gurdjieff student!
I have no quarrel with you; When you say you "graduated from that school a long time ago" do you mean that you have fully assimilated the entire Gurdjieff teaching and have become a man # 7 !
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James, the attacks from these "spiritual snobs" are ridiculous, brother! They act as if you just ran over their new puppy or something...? I don't understand their childish inclinations to make completely unsubstantiated attacks on your integrity. Wow, such projecting! Well, I hope you know that anyone with an open mind will enjoy and benefit from your series. Thanks._Andrew
That why I got all the thumbs up and you get all the thumbs down. Also your intelligence is MORE than revealed by your own words. Fuck you and your hubristic new age 101 bitch ass attitude. You obviously have never achieved anything close to what you claim. So shut your mouth and practice your Gong Fu bitch. LOL. LOFL. Recognize when someone is trying to help you next time and don't be such a little defensive/reactive little bitch. LOL.
Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy
Witness the thumbs J J, witness the thumbs! Shit, you must be watered down dumb AND blind. Well enlightenment quote un-quote is often achieved easier by the blind. maybe you onto something. Anyway, us grown ups, we swear when some clown ass retard starts getting Hostile with us for no reason. Its called putting an idiot back in his place. You obviously know little about what Casteneda meant...and as for Gurjieff....That's some 101 New Age crap. Internal energy work is the only way.
He's trying to make money off a water down then water down even more then misinterpreded analysis of others work. Read the original sources and the related work. What your trying to do is akin to trying to understand chinese philosophy off of a fortune cookie fortune...got it? Simple now, Huh. Well it's all up to you clowns, but that IS the reality of this little situation, since asked, there it is.
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Your inclination to attack and criticise and judge is what you should be concerned about. You're getting all puffed up about yourself, that's all. It's nothing new to tie a book together with distillations of different methods/philosophies and that's what James has done. The marrying of sage-wisdom with modern science's findings is a natural and I find James' discourses interesting and valid. Write your own book, why don't you?
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your criticism is both rude and completely ignorant. Don Juan's teachings have everything to do with what quantum mechanics is discovering and is in line with Gurdjieff's conclusions as well. You are well out of your league, my friend. James' conclusions are among the most far-reaching in their scope and his ability to tie together seemingly disparate traditions is unique and welcome and much needed. He is obviously also a self-realized soul and that is worth more than any philosophy.
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Truthseeker (still haven't found it, obviously)--your arrogance and groundless insults are truly appalling. If you had an ounce of self-realization in you, you would know that James is spot-on but as long as you project your own inadequacies onto others you will never get anywhere. You are PROJECTING, brother. Your childish accusations are laughable. You are, as James might say, "spiritually sound asleep". Your attacks are those of a frustrated, disillusioned seeker. It is pathetic!
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truthseekerfinder- So what if Mr. Traitz practices law? your implication is groundless. your desire to accuse him of dishonesty is immature and has no grounds, either. why the childish rant against a man who has shown nothing but integrity and a desire to help people rediscover the truth about themselves and offer a distillation of ancient wisdom? A "mashed-up mockery"..? you just seem like a frustrated baby. why not offer up something substantive instead of empty attacks?
Through self-realization you can find out all the truth you need to live a peaceful life free of ego-identified dysfunction. That's enough for me. I self-realized in 2006. Blessings.
I'm not trying to antagonize you, though your attacks on James are rather brutish and rude and are deserving of some correction. To question his honesty is a groundless attack, that's all i was saying. And kensho is right, you are projecting.
"Attacks" on James? Please. The guy is shilling for his home-made book, trying to get people to believe he has the Answers to the Meaning of Life.
Gimme a break. All the guy did was bastardize Gurdjieff's work and through some different ingredients. The same as all those who claim to have "The Answer".
It's brutish to question his education? It's brutish to be skeptical? It's brutish to demand honesty?
Go buy his book. I'm sure he needs more sycophantic support to boost his large ego.
You know Truthseeker is right. You will find nothing by watching youtube. There is only one path and lies through meditation, calming the mind, calming the body. Also since you seem a little jittery I would reconmend Gung Fu, it will teach you to calm the mind and body and start looking at things discerningly, less defensively, plus it comes with meditation so...get started. If anything you should simple jot down the books Traitz mentions and read them for yourself. Think for yourself.
And Def please shed the ego cause your way out your league from what I can tell. These people are trying to help you and tell you to think for yourself. Traitz may mention some books but he aint no master...come on he has a TV and a cable box behind him in some vids. Meditation, ACTION, not sitting around gleaning ideas that will confuse and clash with eachother off of youtube. If you want to take the accelerated path try to both start meditating AND Don't log onto youtube for one month.
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No, truthseeker is not right about any of his rants. And I don't need advice on what to watch and why. I have experienced self-realization already so i don't "need" anything. I enjoy James' videos and I will continue to watch them and I continue to honor what he has to say. I have a mind of my own and I know how to use it. Blessings and be well.
Once again Truthseekerfinder reveals himself....No point of view...egoist and arrogant / meanspirited and un-wise / derogatory and shallow....the very essence of the poor state of your average man ;so well elucidated by Gurdjieff and demonsrated by our poor fool -" Truthseekerfinder"
Ah, once more with the namecalling. A sure sign you are a the charlatan I've called you out to be. Unable to bear the unpleasant manifestations of others, you have an unsatisfied need to be"right", to be "in charge", and to claim yourself as a guru. You are a sad example of a guru, if your "way" of "enlightenment" includes namecalling and judging without understanding. You're a shill, Mr. Traitz. A pimp.
Some part of the peace of mind of an enlightened person comes from basing one's life on only the good things that one has, not on anything else.
Another part comes from reacting so wisely according to feelings that one has no need to cling to unpleasant experiencies so as to be reminded of the need to avoid them.: one already has done really lot to avoid such things, but done it wisely, holistically correctly.
"Beliefs", are for people who do not seek verifiable truth. "Believing" is for those not interested in the search for truth. -Why bother, when all one has to do is "believe" in whatever fairytale is palatable?
Gurdjieff was not interested in "beliefs", either. He sought verifiable proof of his work.
"Believing" in something doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you wish it.
Can YOU reduce your philosophical tenets to a 500 word box? Good luck with that.
Thank you. I have said the same thing to this same hypocrit one year ago, and he was giving the same idiotic answers, This time I just dropped in to see how people are reacting on him and some other tramps here, who are trying to corupt the documents of a real knowlege. Was glad to read your post.
O.K. And, I really find that all the work I put into raising myself up spiritually is not helped at all by remaining in contact with people who have a negative attitude. Baring the unpleasant manifestations of others. For example, a "friend" and I went hiking, and afterward, he expressed that our activity had been "bullshit." Then, he made a sarcastic remark about my car. How can I keep a positive attitude if I continue to spend time with negative people? If you take a bath in shit....
Please, read again the book of Ouspensky, 4th WAY, there is an explanation why we shoudln't try to explain it to everyone. The ideas will not die if they are transferred in the exact way like they being transferred ever since they were created.
Gurdjieff showed some of his 'sacred dances' to the reading 'public' through his students books and pictures.Castenada showed his 'movements' in his last book. I wish to show 'moving meditation' from the source of Zen and 'the way of the warrior' i.e. 'the fourth way'
The photos appearing in several books by students had to have been provided to those students for a purpose-photos provide visual/image information. I do agree,however, that movements must be personally taught.
18 months ago I experienced what I found out later to be "Kensho", the awakening to one's true nature. A fully-engulfing experience akin to Eckhart Tolle's recounting. I now basically live in 2nd attention. My core beliefs were absolutely shattered. I know what unconditional love is now. I now understand the core from which human suffering stems. In your estimation/practice how common is this all-at-once engulfing level of awakening/ego dissolving?
Thanks. I was afraid of that. :-) By the way-my initial ego-smashing came by way of Murray Oxman's "How to Handle Difficult People", the most UN-esoteric, tiny book on the planet. It sneaks up on the ego and then "hooks" the ego and then shines light on the ego! Enlightenment through trickery. Brilliant! Two days later I self-realized through a Satsang with Adyashanti. Thank you so much, James for your astute, tightly presented lessons and insights. What a gift!
interesting how he explains how Hydrogen 12 creates a new life when male and female elements joined but explains that H 12 si can also when given proper 'shocks' give birth to the astral body. Also, the explanation of the Sex center and proper use of Sex energy with H 12 and the abuses of that energy and center (not as people think of abuses) Thoughts?
I have been reading gurdjieff and it has been fascinating. He is quite aware of the Different bodies, IE astral, mental etc. HE even discusses building or birthing the astral body. He was quite aware of OBE travel and the existence of different planes/densities of existence and the unlimited potential within.
Can you comment on Pages 254-257 of In search of Miraculous? Your thoughts
Hi James, I like your Gurdjieff 1-5 videos. Good Stuff. But about the Castanada-Gurdjieff connection: people who studied with Gurdjieff himself taught me that drugs are never allowed to be used by Gurdjieff students. Just because "a tribe" does something, doesn't make it right. There are tribes that practice cannibalism, but that doesn't make it right. People who need to deal with tough issues always use drugs as a way to self-medicate, even when on the path. I've seen it many times.
I am not advocating drugs nor do I condemn those that use them.Gurdjieff acknowledged that"narcotics"(which he made clear were not actually narcotics but hallucinogens can yield an experience of enlightenment and they do-temporarily.My point was and is that both Gurdjieff .Castenada's Don Juan Mateus and others have all incovered Higher truths and paths to enlightenment.Don Juan only utilized 'drugs' to break the 'hold' of the Tonal.The actual work on enlightenment is done clear mindedly.
James, You mentioned Don Juan as a real living individual who taught Castenada. How do you know this to be true?
I liked Castenada's books and they resinated with me based on what was said by Don Juan but I read a few things in all his books where it became obvious to me he was copying Gurdjieff material like claiming there were 48 laws that governed man on earth etc...
Castenada is a controversial character and I guess I find him a little less than credible.
I felt that Don Juan was based on a real entity,however I didn't really investigate it as I was more interested on the message/teaching itself;and yes there are similarities--It may be that both 'tapped' into the same higher knowledge
James, how in the world did that entire confrontation get triggered, in an environment, totally based on expanding consciousness for everyone including the presenter? In all ur videos I have not sensed an egotistical approach at all. In fact, in our correspondence u have frequently mentioned that u dont have all the answers, voluntarily. Based on the enormous accurate information provided in this professional format u have a right to promote your book. I think the community owes u a debt.
dr. mr. traitz, thanx from me. this has been a long journey for me. the loss of the false self is a painfull endever and without help it would be impossible. to know thyself is a journey through the darkest of forests. without you and others like you well... never mind i shouldnt speak of such things thankx again from a close admirer r.l.j.
"p.s. look at his hands and gestures, so primitiv."
In the martial arts there is a psychological technique that is used to psyche out and intimidate an opponent. This technique is to stare at his hands. This makes him 'self conscious.'
This makes the opponent doubt. In his moment of doubt, you get that momentary cubic centimeter of advantage and then you clobber him.
So, possibly, this is your subconscious intent when you "notice his hands" and you may be unconscious of this intent.
Do you not see that calling others "scumbag" and "idiot" is contrary to Gurdjieff's teachings such as "do not internally consider" "aim to externally consider" "non-expression of negative emotions" "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others" "do not identify" dividing "I" and "false personality"
I told u once about "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others"... its one of the last things that becomes possible for a human being! Much to evolved a topic for u. U cannot do it so stop talking about it. Show the subejct some respect.
And no, i do not see calling u a scumbag is cntrary to Gurdjieff's teaching cause u deserve it! U didnt have to mention my name again after i left. But u couldnt let it be could u!? U had to save your face and reputation didnt u, u piece of horseshit, by bringing my name through the mud!
I will not,hereafter,mention you or further respond; with this final comment of mine regarding you I will point out that you have now managed to: express more negative emotion,internally consider, identify,allowed one of your small "i"s'to have your false personality wounded-All in one comment!You provide a splendid example of Gurdjieff's admonitions for all my readers to see!
haha.. ofcorse mr. teacher.. mr. censorship. U better delete everything from me and likeminded since it is not realy material for study as u said a couple of days before is it. Or is it just u know dont know how to REALY apply these reactions to your teachings!? I bet Gurdjieff would know how.
he is good person looks nice and has quite logical thinking.of course he is intellectual not more but at least he never says that he himself is teacher he simply describes what he is learnt.good work go on.dosent matter that u himself live in theory.nice homework anyway:)
haha.. yea, lick it up and suck it in. U will only recieve positive remarks from halfbrains like suprelee here who dont know that the f.. is going on and never did any real work eithe with Castaneada or Gurdjieff.
(cont.) I have studied Einstein's theories on special and general relativity as well as quantum physics.Studying both the western and eastern philosopers and ancient Zen as well as the research being done by people like Dr.James J Hurtak of the Acadamy for Future Science,I came to discover a common thread in all the science ,philosophy and esoteric teachings such as Gurdjieff and Don Juan. Additionally I have been practicing a 4th way discipline for the past 18 years which I now teach.
I know my video veiwers may wonder about some of the 'ugly' or aggressive comments.I obviously could delete them as soon as they appear-but I do not,for a reason.These negative comments often reflect the very teaching covered in the video.Some of the comments may cause you to question my basis for what I say. Over the past 30 years I have studied all of Gurdjieff's writings as well as all of his students books.I personaly footnoted each book.I have done the same for all 12 of Castenada's (cont.)
The Way of the Warrior is a '4th way' system.The three traditional 'ways' are: 1.the way of the fakir (which is the way of the body) 2.the way of the monk (which is the way of the emotions) 3. the way of the yogi (which is the way of the mind/intellect)Each takes a long time as each works upon only one center! The 4th way is: 4. The way of the warrior (which works on three centers at once) Gurdjieff taught that one must join a school or teaching. There are those of us who teach 4th way!
I will be filming a series of new videos showing 'movements' and further explaining how Gurdjieff's teaching is the same as 'Way of the Warrior'-both are 4th way teachings
Those who are rude and who post much here but say little or next to nothing are like the hired 'clappers' in an audience who wish to give the illusion of a consensus (consensual reality) , when in fact no such consensus really exist.
Their aim is to disrupt, add noise to the signal and obscure the message that is being
That is exaclty true! Im no here to show my respect for the subject or the guy in the video, but quite the contrary and i have given my exact reasons for doing so. So dont say what is already obvious!
Do you have constructive or informed commentary to offer? Does your own study and knowledge yield a philosophy, theory or idea that you would like to express.What are your own views on the current scientific beliefs and research regarding the universe,consciousness and the brain/mind debate now occuring, especially regarding the role of brain chemistry on the sense of "I"
I told u of the "law of resonance" but u made no comments or questions to that. Obviously u dont understand it. I told of 3 diferent kinds of magic. and it dont matter if u or anyone else here believe in magic or not. What is imortant in relation to magic is the INTENTION!! U only made a childish remark to that, again showing your superficial knowledge in the ocult realms.
Gurdjieff was certainly aware of magic. When his school was visited by the famous black magician Alister Crowley, Gurdjieff sent all children out of the room and kept a very sharp eye on Crowley!
So, to take the maters i showed to u so lightly, only goes to show that u dont have real experience and knowldege... only book knowledge. So why should i go deeper into these subjects when u dont even understand the obvious. That u dont have real knowledge and u should rather be honest and learn from those with greater experience than yourself!
Those "Masters" who dabble in magic don't get it,they are on the outside looking in;Don Juan rightly pointed out that those sorcerers abandoned the Tonal for the Nagual and,while achieving power ,they failed to become men of knowledge -they never accomplished the 'Totality of oneself' and while you think it un-important I tell you that the way of the magician is NOT the true way!
U dont have any contact with a live master so u have no idea what u are talking about. U dont have real experience. U are the one standing outside looking in. Anyways its time to move on.. it has been a waste of time here. But i didnt expect snobs like u being open for undertanding anyway. Just stoped by to let u know my opinion.
The fact that you 'stick around' reveals that your are accessible, desperately clinging to anything and anybody(just as Don Juan said) hang on as long as you like.Guess I won't hear from you any longer unless you just can't shut up!
haha... u so wish u could understand me dont u, to find some weak spots. Nah, i hang around cause of my love for Gurdjieff, and it pains me to see idiots making a crap of themselves in his name!
"He explained that one of the greatest accomplishments of the seers of the Conquest was a construct he called the three-phase progression. By understanding the nature of man, they were able to reach the incontestable conclusion that if seers can hold their own in facing petty tyrants, they can certainly face the unknown with impunity, and then they can even stand the presence of the unknowable".
Ah! Very good, I had been utilizing CT2507 as a "petty tyrant"(per Don Juan).Also ,another parallel with Gurdjieff:"bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others" as a form of "conscious work and voluntary suffering". Incidently ,I knew that CT2507 wouldn't go away-He can't help himself and will continue to 'cling' for some time until his ego compels him to chase another car
Wow,I 'hit a nerve' with you! It is you who doesn't understand. Gurdjieff was precisly teaching the way of the warrior. What is a shame is that you have learned nothing from Gurdjieff's teaching.
my dear internet-guru, I understand exactly what are you tryng to do, probably even better than yourself.
I have studied myself every line that G. und his direct pupils ever had writhen. and, I am working with that method since many years. so it is not problem at all to notice,
You have failed to understand what you have read of Gurdjieff.Your angry response reflects both a failure to 'bear the unpleasing manifestations of others' youare also engaging in the 'expression of negative emotions'. Below I will briefly explain why Gurdjieff is teaching the way of the warrior ,which is known as a 4th way method.You say you have read "every line" then you surly know that one of his pupils books was actually titled:THE FOURTH WAY
it needs a litle bit more than to spend time with footnoting castanedas books. 12 books! dear God in heven, why should anybody do such a thing??! even an teenager notice that castanedas storys are pure fiction. man, if you realy want to make money as charlatan-guru, you have to do it better!
Yup.. in his anguish to present himself as an enlightend master at level 7, his gestures become ugly.. like a cacaphony. Something that inspires disgust!
No they dont! lul7799's comments are devasting for you campaing and u know it! U sound like a stupid politician. Just trying to act cool and positive what ever happens right!? :))
Well this is not the age of politicians. They only inspire mistrust! Find better rolemodels u ape!
I will be presenting more in depth teachings of Gurdjieff as well as Don Juan,seperatly,of course.I think the 'time' is right to explore Gurdjieff in some greater depth.I also will show some 'movements'-Should have it uploaded in 4-5 weeks!
objectivswrd-your comments reflect understanding of Gurdjieff's words.Some of the others,such as CT2507 and lul7799 serve a useful purpose for the benefit of other readers of these video comments-as they provide real life examples of how some of Gurdjieff and Don Juan's readers get into difficulty in mis-applying and mis-interpreting the teachings
Were u talking about be u scumbag!? hahaha... such a hipocrit and self taught piece of crap. U still never made any intelligent answers to my two subjects which shows where your knowledge ends. And there is simply no reason for me to even begin adding more information to your ramblings since u have shown your level of understanding all to clearly!
3 days back you mentioned your love of Gurdjieff.If you aim to represent the results of practicing Gurdjieff's teaching how do you suppose the insulting and degrading language that you use in your comments will reflect on the teaching
It reflects perfectly well since im sure Gurdjieff didnt like people like u. He would be pleased to know that there are some out to defend his name and work.
Besides im not aiming to represent Gurdjieff teachings, u are. I know my limits and would never presume to be a teacher in the system of Gurdjieff. That door was closed when he died and he didnt leave a master to take his place!
In fact he was very specific that the exercise of "stop" was not to be performed and guided by someone other than a master who could "feel" for the others. And yet i see it happening in all Gurdjieff centers all over the world! Fools!!!
CT2507 Let us both keep our comments respectfull in the spirit of the subject matter we are addressing,accordingly I have removed my last comment to you and your last comment to me ,both of which were unnecessarily inappropriate. You have said that the "u prick" comment was not meant for me and I apologize for the misunderstanding.
John Anthony West
MoKillaGorilla 9 months ago
Gurdjieff "toe-aught"?
ucsteve 11 months ago
Nice to see a man is suite and tie in a surrounding a lovely home and piano having remained with his given name talking simple truth.
Keep your joyful way of sharing going James! :o)
tuttifruttiicecream 1 year ago
Why do you charge money for your book?
TrevorR3znik 1 year ago
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TrevorR3znik 1 year ago
You need to view the work at a deeper level.
MindRapeTV 2 years ago
@MindRapeTV
youtube partitions works that have a deeper level.
Short videos bode well for the masses anyway though.
I think he is just being generous in sharing.
He must pile on the sharing so the tree can be seen in the forest.
Please feel free to direct me to the part that leads to the deeper level in a book. Sincerely.
Quote the page and I will follow.
ythb123 1 year ago
I charge to cover the cost of printing and mailing only
JamesJTraitz 1 year ago
This is real interesting. I read the Power of Now about observing the self, so i guess double attention is the same. I often get stuck in the mind when emotional states arise and it's like another me experiences it all, suffering and fretting. Then i look back and wonder why i allowed myself to slip into that state. It's so hard, especially when you get insulted or feel self conscious.
A wannabe warrior!!
liquidplastic62 2 years ago 2
Maybe...two years ago, I was talking to my pal about rude customers at work, and how some employees are bothered by that. I said "just because someone shows me their ugly face, doesn't mean I have to put on mine, I'm going to keep being happy and looking good" Is that a less eloquent way of saying "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others"?
DanielMurphy007 2 years ago
exactly right
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
books worth reading
leharra 2 years ago
first of all somebody should teach you the right pronunciacion of Gurdieff and Don Juan.
Then speak more abstract so that nowbody will understand you.
ruzickaw 2 years ago
James, how does one help children keep self-remembrance (and not identify with the little self, as they begin to learn their name and see themselves as "separate" beings, egos?) Have you a video on exercises for children ages 2-6 for example?
Namaste
gardeniabee 2 years ago
Begin slowly and age appropriatly...teach them not to become too "self-important" aand self-absorbed...explain how not to be overcome by the influence of others -to develope a "self-reference" attitude and to not "lose themselves" in that which 'parades' before their eyes
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Very educational and well-presented. Thank you!
Sageking2 2 years ago
You're welcome
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
wow, about time I hear someone else say what Ive been thinking for about 2 years, you rock man, keep up the good work, your intellect is well appreciated!
alexandras83 2 years ago
Thankyou
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
"Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy "
- Mom? LOL...This guy just revealed the fuck out of himself. I through in the "foul" language to hammer in the point.
laotsu7777 2 years ago 4
Exactly the effect I wanted ;thankyou
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
...(sigh)...if you say so...
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago
This guy apears to be somewhat confused as to the meaning of Don Juans message. Attention to Attention is important however, so I give him points for that. Beyond that I reconmend listening to guy preaching meditation. Get into that and you will have no desire to trade jabs on a youtube forum. Is that part of your quest for knowledge and power. None of you have gained what you claim to. If you had you would never be arguing on this board. That goes for this guy Traitz, too.
SFwizardoakland 2 years ago 8
"Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy". -J. Traitz
This, from a self-styled "guru".
What a joke.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
this man cannot even spell Gurdjieff's name.
solardaymon 2 years ago 2
To demonstrate Traitz' inability to bear unpleasant manifestations, or, God forbid, learn from another person, read down the thread, and see where Traitz tells me, " I respect your response and agree. As for "my hubris" I 'work' on myself daily." Then, he turns around to call me names.
Not exactly the traits of an enlightened being. Far from it.
Now, tell us all about the 'meaning of life', Traitz. You think you know the "Truth", but all you are doing is shilling a home-produced book
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Your self-importance has resulted in a sense of entitlement wherein you can be as deroatory and sarcastic as you please but as soon as someone responds in kind you get self-wonded and sanctimonious...I 'called' you on your game--and now you feel self-pity
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Self pitty!? You DO think too much of yourself. "Entitlement"? Where do you come up with this stuff? THe only thing I'm entitled to is air, same as you.
"Self-wounded"? You are too much. Your mish-mash philosophical soup is neither clear, nor nourishing. You call people on the very traits and issues that plague you.
You should follow the idea of Socrates: "Know thyself." You don't, yet you pretend to know everyone else from a 500 character box on YT.
Right.
Go heal yourself.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
You're right, Truthseeker. This guy claims all sorts of knowledge, but all he really has is a bunch of mixed up ideas from a number of sources; then claims it's his work. What a tool. He thinks he knows fast particle physics, but when I asked him who he studied with, he got all up in my face for daring to ask the question. The answer is; he never studied sub-atomic physics with anyone. He read some books. That's like reading a driver's manual and claiming to know how to build a car.
patsaretherealchumps 2 years ago 7
castaneda has long been exposed as a charlatan....(but journeys to Ixtlan is my fave anyway) if you guys were really so enlightgened i doubt if you would be waxing philosophical on youtube arguing about nothing important.... take a walk in nature w/no destination, follow one lesson after the other as if a child and it will lead you to more profound places. Tom Brown Jr has the best info from my experience(s). walk softly
stumptacular 2 years ago 5
This guy is a trial lawyer in Florida.
I'm sure he'd sell you mountain property there, if he could get away with it.
What a shill.
Making a mashed-up mockery of real work, by combining it with the fictional writings of a person nobody could pin down, with a dash of high school quantum mechanics overview thrown in, to make it look deep, and mysterious.
What a riot.....
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Share with us ,then the truth you have sought and found mr. Truthseekerfinder-hope your keen sense of self importance does not get in your way
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
"keen sense of self importance"?
Don't make me laugh.
I'm not the one arrogantly brandishing a mish-mash bowl of gobbdly-gook as the "Meaning of Life". That would be YOU.
I've read through most of your drivel. It's just a pathetic attempt to sell your book.
Let me ask you this: If your book is so good, why isn't it carried by any bookstores?
You cannot even suffer the negative manifestations of others, as you well know you should, since you cherry-picked that one from Gurgjieff.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
And the truths I have found don't fit in a 500 character box.
To take Gurdjieff's teaching and bastardize it by mixing it with Castaneda is unconscionable. THen, to try to toss in quantum mechanics, without ever having properly studied under anyone is laughable.
Enjoy shilling for your book. I'm sure there are many broken, lost souls you can enjoy plundering.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Sorry about your anger and frustration...perhaps you should re-read Gurdjieff. The parallels between Gurdjieff,Castenada and Quantum physics are real ;I understand that some are overwhelmed when their cherished beliefs are expanded.
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
You misunderstand. I'm neither angry, nor frustrated, no matter how much you would enjoy pinning those tags on me.
First of all, Gurdjieff's work is not about "beliefs", as you incorrectly presume.
So, there are no beliefs to be "cherished".
Secondly, I am laughing at you, not angry with you; though pimping a book no bookseller will carry to people who are obviously in need of real help isn't funny.
Thirdly, you have no credentials in quantum physics, yet you pretend to know....
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Let me see now: "bearing the unpleasing manifestations of others...not identifying...the non-expression of negative emotions...not internally considering...you are quite the Gurdjieff student!
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I'm not a student of anybody. I've simply read through Gurdjieff's works, and referred to them for over 30 years.
I graduated from that school a long time ago.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
I have no quarrel with you; When you say you "graduated from that school a long time ago" do you mean that you have fully assimilated the entire Gurdjieff teaching and have become a man # 7 !
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I make no claims of mastery of anything, for, in truth, nothing can be mastered.
I give myself no labels (such as man #7), for that labeling, alone, would reduce who I am, and mire me in kind of hubris you seem to enjoy.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
I respect your response and agree. As for "my hubris" I 'work' on myself daily.
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
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James, the attacks from these "spiritual snobs" are ridiculous, brother! They act as if you just ran over their new puppy or something...? I don't understand their childish inclinations to make completely unsubstantiated attacks on your integrity. Wow, such projecting! Well, I hope you know that anyone with an open mind will enjoy and benefit from your series. Thanks._Andrew
TadRapidly 2 years ago
Thankyou for the support
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
That why I got all the thumbs up and you get all the thumbs down. Also your intelligence is MORE than revealed by your own words. Fuck you and your hubristic new age 101 bitch ass attitude. You obviously have never achieved anything close to what you claim. So shut your mouth and practice your Gong Fu bitch. LOL. LOFL. Recognize when someone is trying to help you next time and don't be such a little defensive/reactive little bitch. LOL.
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 6
Doubting you are getting any "thumbs up" except from mom ; look , lose the attitude and you might actually be viewed as an adult...lose the foul language while you are at it... I know ...you have never accomplished anything in your life -but you can "explain" sorry and sad ..what a legacy
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Witness the thumbs J J, witness the thumbs! Shit, you must be watered down dumb AND blind. Well enlightenment quote un-quote is often achieved easier by the blind. maybe you onto something. Anyway, us grown ups, we swear when some clown ass retard starts getting Hostile with us for no reason. Its called putting an idiot back in his place. You obviously know little about what Casteneda meant...and as for Gurjieff....That's some 101 New Age crap. Internal energy work is the only way.
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 4
He's trying to make money off a water down then water down even more then misinterpreded analysis of others work. Read the original sources and the related work. What your trying to do is akin to trying to understand chinese philosophy off of a fortune cookie fortune...got it? Simple now, Huh. Well it's all up to you clowns, but that IS the reality of this little situation, since asked, there it is.
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 5
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Your inclination to attack and criticise and judge is what you should be concerned about. You're getting all puffed up about yourself, that's all. It's nothing new to tie a book together with distillations of different methods/philosophies and that's what James has done. The marrying of sage-wisdom with modern science's findings is a natural and I find James' discourses interesting and valid. Write your own book, why don't you?
TadRapidly 2 years ago
PS JJ...I thought that retorting the "Mom" defense was reserved for under 10 year olds. Congrats!
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 3
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your criticism is both rude and completely ignorant. Don Juan's teachings have everything to do with what quantum mechanics is discovering and is in line with Gurdjieff's conclusions as well. You are well out of your league, my friend. James' conclusions are among the most far-reaching in their scope and his ability to tie together seemingly disparate traditions is unique and welcome and much needed. He is obviously also a self-realized soul and that is worth more than any philosophy.
kensho3 2 years ago
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Truthseeker (still haven't found it, obviously)--your arrogance and groundless insults are truly appalling. If you had an ounce of self-realization in you, you would know that James is spot-on but as long as you project your own inadequacies onto others you will never get anywhere. You are PROJECTING, brother. Your childish accusations are laughable. You are, as James might say, "spiritually sound asleep". Your attacks are those of a frustrated, disillusioned seeker. It is pathetic!
kensho3 2 years ago
I see you've bought Traitz' nonsensense, hook, line, and sinker.
Enjoy it.
You two were made for each other.
The only thing laughable here is your ridiculous accusations.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
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truthseekerfinder- So what if Mr. Traitz practices law? your implication is groundless. your desire to accuse him of dishonesty is immature and has no grounds, either. why the childish rant against a man who has shown nothing but integrity and a desire to help people rediscover the truth about themselves and offer a distillation of ancient wisdom? A "mashed-up mockery"..? you just seem like a frustrated baby. why not offer up something substantive instead of empty attacks?
TadRapidly 2 years ago
You can get in line for the loony bin, too, right next to your good buddy, "kensho3".
You won't be crowded: There's plenty of room for you in the asylym.
Anyone falling for this charlatan needs their head thoroughly examined by a professional. Get help, really.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
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So much for something substantive. I wish you well.
TadRapidly 2 years ago
You want substance from a YT thread.
You're deluded and lost.
You want substance? Here ya go: You don't have "The Truth". Neither do I. Neither does Traitz.
Chew on that for some time, friend.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Through self-realization you can find out all the truth you need to live a peaceful life free of ego-identified dysfunction. That's enough for me. I self-realized in 2006. Blessings.
TadRapidly 2 years ago
So, you're only commenting on here to try to antagonize me? Hmmmm, doesn't sound very self-realized, to me.
Go read Hafiz and Rumi.
You'll get more from them that's useful for a fulfilled life in two poems, than you ever will by listening to the self-proclaimed guru, Traitz.
Be well.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
I'm not trying to antagonize you, though your attacks on James are rather brutish and rude and are deserving of some correction. To question his honesty is a groundless attack, that's all i was saying. And kensho is right, you are projecting.
TadRapidly 2 years ago
"Attacks" on James? Please. The guy is shilling for his home-made book, trying to get people to believe he has the Answers to the Meaning of Life.
Gimme a break. All the guy did was bastardize Gurdjieff's work and through some different ingredients. The same as all those who claim to have "The Answer".
It's brutish to question his education? It's brutish to be skeptical? It's brutish to demand honesty?
Go buy his book. I'm sure he needs more sycophantic support to boost his large ego.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago 2
Jeez.
TadRapidly 2 years ago
You know Truthseeker is right. You will find nothing by watching youtube. There is only one path and lies through meditation, calming the mind, calming the body. Also since you seem a little jittery I would reconmend Gung Fu, it will teach you to calm the mind and body and start looking at things discerningly, less defensively, plus it comes with meditation so...get started. If anything you should simple jot down the books Traitz mentions and read them for yourself. Think for yourself.
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 6
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alchemistvstiger 2 years ago
And Def please shed the ego cause your way out your league from what I can tell. These people are trying to help you and tell you to think for yourself. Traitz may mention some books but he aint no master...come on he has a TV and a cable box behind him in some vids. Meditation, ACTION, not sitting around gleaning ideas that will confuse and clash with eachother off of youtube. If you want to take the accelerated path try to both start meditating AND Don't log onto youtube for one month.
alchemistvstiger 2 years ago 6
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No, truthseeker is not right about any of his rants. And I don't need advice on what to watch and why. I have experienced self-realization already so i don't "need" anything. I enjoy James' videos and I will continue to watch them and I continue to honor what he has to say. I have a mind of my own and I know how to use it. Blessings and be well.
TadRapidly 2 years ago
"A distillation of ancient wisdom"???
Puuuleeeez.
This guy made a mashed-up mockery of Gurdjieff, and leans heavily on Carlos Castaneda (another scam artist) and you think it's "ancient wisdom"?
LMAO!!
Anyone falling for the kind of claptrap this guy espouses deserves all the emptiness he has to offer.
You are a tool.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Once again Truthseekerfinder reveals himself....No point of view...egoist and arrogant / meanspirited and un-wise / derogatory and shallow....the very essence of the poor state of your average man ;so well elucidated by Gurdjieff and demonsrated by our poor fool -" Truthseekerfinder"
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Ah, once more with the namecalling. A sure sign you are a the charlatan I've called you out to be. Unable to bear the unpleasant manifestations of others, you have an unsatisfied need to be"right", to be "in charge", and to claim yourself as a guru. You are a sad example of a guru, if your "way" of "enlightenment" includes namecalling and judging without understanding. You're a shill, Mr. Traitz. A pimp.
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago 2
"...egoist and arrogant / meanspirited and un-wise / derogatory and shallow....the very essence of the poor state of your average man"
Ta da! You've described yourself, to a tee. Great job!
Truthseekerfinder 2 years ago
Why, if you're aware of yourself, do you require so many expensive things? Mescalito would not be pleased.
Dargortheshadowlord 2 years ago 2
Require? My Tonal relates to my many 'walks' of life
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Some part of the peace of mind of an enlightened person comes from basing one's life on only the good things that one has, not on anything else.
Another part comes from reacting so wisely according to feelings that one has no need to cling to unpleasant experiencies so as to be reminded of the need to avoid them.: one already has done really lot to avoid such things, but done it wisely, holistically correctly.
khtervola 2 years ago
How cynical you all are , about something so deep . Your vanity and profanity - all heard ; all to well .
egrip45 2 years ago
Hahha, ho ho ho!!
The "Way" of the Sufi Fraud, and a fictional character in a shady book!!
What nonsense.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
"Hahha, ho ho ho!!" to quote you-you are quite the clown. No fraud and no fiction. Sorry that you can't handle higher truths.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
My, my, certainly getting caught up in negative projections, aren't you? "Clown"? Hardly.
DonJuan Matus was a FICTIONAL character in the shady books of a wannbe anthropologist.
"Can't handle higher truths"? Judgemental, too. Mmm, I see. So, when one disagrees with you, your approach is to call names and belittle them.
Nice system ya got there.
Oh, and FYI, I've read everthing both Gurdjieff and Castaneda wrote.
You represent the very problems they were both trying to rise above.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
Well you have demonstrated your talents as a critic-how about enlightening us with your beliefs or philosophy
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
"Beliefs", are for people who do not seek verifiable truth. "Believing" is for those not interested in the search for truth. -Why bother, when all one has to do is "believe" in whatever fairytale is palatable?
Gurdjieff was not interested in "beliefs", either. He sought verifiable proof of his work.
"Believing" in something doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you wish it.
Can YOU reduce your philosophical tenets to a 500 word box? Good luck with that.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
Thank you. I have said the same thing to this same hypocrit one year ago, and he was giving the same idiotic answers, This time I just dropped in to see how people are reacting on him and some other tramps here, who are trying to corupt the documents of a real knowlege. Was glad to read your post.
best regards from CH
lul7799 2 years ago
I was trying to say exactly the same thing - Do not mix everything together exept me and you, otherwise you will have "russian solyanka"
DiskWizard001 2 years ago 3
those names in the same sentence.....very sick.
idra69it 3 years ago 3
The names belong together-the ignorant see them as separate
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
O.K. And, I really find that all the work I put into raising myself up spiritually is not helped at all by remaining in contact with people who have a negative attitude. Baring the unpleasant manifestations of others. For example, a "friend" and I went hiking, and afterward, he expressed that our activity had been "bullshit." Then, he made a sarcastic remark about my car. How can I keep a positive attitude if I continue to spend time with negative people? If you take a bath in shit....
worryphree 3 years ago
nice
Soulfab 3 years ago
It's hard to control the ego with the constant barrage of propaganda in our daily lives.
I've tried to stop the MYonism and think in terms of we are.
I'm constantly reminded of your description of the fear greed dichotomy. Thank you for your insights.
SlaveStorm 3 years ago
Great video..and a very refined, concise presentation..Thank you sir.
attilaclark 3 years ago
Thankyou as well
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
hello James Thank you. seen a few of your videos...Nice.I have a sugestion of a book for you-[Osho]-Meetings with Remarkable People
mullaleo85 3 years ago
And yes, some time ago I also had the feeling what I need to tell anyone about the Work of mr.Gurdjieff.
DiskWizard001 3 years ago
Yes. And if not for students willing to tell of Gurdjieff's teachings his ideas would die!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Please, read again the book of Ouspensky, 4th WAY, there is an explanation why we shoudln't try to explain it to everyone. The ideas will not die if they are transferred in the exact way like they being transferred ever since they were created.
DiskWizard001 3 years ago
This is very slippery way. You can find an answer into the All and Everything book by mr. Gurdjieff. Keyword is the russian word "solyanka"
DiskWizard001 3 years ago
Erm, I don't think what it is good idea to show off the Movements. Why ? Because you cannot control what are people EXACTLY doing.
DiskWizard001 3 years ago
Gurdjieff showed some of his 'sacred dances' to the reading 'public' through his students books and pictures.Castenada showed his 'movements' in his last book. I wish to show 'moving meditation' from the source of Zen and 'the way of the warrior' i.e. 'the fourth way'
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Also, you may want to ask yourself a question - why Gurdjieff left no images of the Movements ?
DiskWizard001 3 years ago
The photos appearing in several books by students had to have been provided to those students for a purpose-photos provide visual/image information. I do agree,however, that movements must be personally taught.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
This dud looks like one of the Sopranos.
The way of a wiseguy
cainenovak 3 years ago 4
Thankyou I think
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Very good video thank you very much
fd951 3 years ago
I like this protecting ones inner core and not letting others into my Holy Space.
Its between me and God.
My wall is up. I am dressed for battle in the full armor of the Lord.
Terri3210 3 years ago
James-
18 months ago I experienced what I found out later to be "Kensho", the awakening to one's true nature. A fully-engulfing experience akin to Eckhart Tolle's recounting. I now basically live in 2nd attention. My core beliefs were absolutely shattered. I know what unconditional love is now. I now understand the core from which human suffering stems. In your estimation/practice how common is this all-at-once engulfing level of awakening/ego dissolving?
TadRapidly 3 years ago
It is uncommon because few believe it to exist and fewer still do the necessary conscious work and voluntary suffering
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Thanks. I was afraid of that. :-) By the way-my initial ego-smashing came by way of Murray Oxman's "How to Handle Difficult People", the most UN-esoteric, tiny book on the planet. It sneaks up on the ego and then "hooks" the ego and then shines light on the ego! Enlightenment through trickery. Brilliant! Two days later I self-realized through a Satsang with Adyashanti. Thank you so much, James for your astute, tightly presented lessons and insights. What a gift!
Blessings,
Andrew Bissell
TadRapidly 3 years ago
We are meant to transform into our 'astral' bodies and beyond...always this is a conscious process
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
interesting how he explains how Hydrogen 12 creates a new life when male and female elements joined but explains that H 12 si can also when given proper 'shocks' give birth to the astral body. Also, the explanation of the Sex center and proper use of Sex energy with H 12 and the abuses of that energy and center (not as people think of abuses) Thoughts?
OpenMind00 3 years ago
I have been reading gurdjieff and it has been fascinating. He is quite aware of the Different bodies, IE astral, mental etc. HE even discusses building or birthing the astral body. He was quite aware of OBE travel and the existence of different planes/densities of existence and the unlimited potential within.
Can you comment on Pages 254-257 of In search of Miraculous? Your thoughts
OpenMind00 3 years ago
Hi James, I like your Gurdjieff 1-5 videos. Good Stuff. But about the Castanada-Gurdjieff connection: people who studied with Gurdjieff himself taught me that drugs are never allowed to be used by Gurdjieff students. Just because "a tribe" does something, doesn't make it right. There are tribes that practice cannibalism, but that doesn't make it right. People who need to deal with tough issues always use drugs as a way to self-medicate, even when on the path. I've seen it many times.
paramind 3 years ago
I am not advocating drugs nor do I condemn those that use them.Gurdjieff acknowledged that"narcotics"(which he made clear were not actually narcotics but hallucinogens can yield an experience of enlightenment and they do-temporarily.My point was and is that both Gurdjieff .Castenada's Don Juan Mateus and others have all incovered Higher truths and paths to enlightenment.Don Juan only utilized 'drugs' to break the 'hold' of the Tonal.The actual work on enlightenment is done clear mindedly.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
By the way I really appreciate your videos and think that Gurdjieff's work is so important and to make people aware of.
Keep up the good work!
justme154 3 years ago
Thankyou
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
James, You mentioned Don Juan as a real living individual who taught Castenada. How do you know this to be true?
I liked Castenada's books and they resinated with me based on what was said by Don Juan but I read a few things in all his books where it became obvious to me he was copying Gurdjieff material like claiming there were 48 laws that governed man on earth etc...
Castenada is a controversial character and I guess I find him a little less than credible.
justme154 3 years ago
I felt that Don Juan was based on a real entity,however I didn't really investigate it as I was more interested on the message/teaching itself;and yes there are similarities--It may be that both 'tapped' into the same higher knowledge
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
"a true warrior loses self importance and gains the kingdom of God" that's deep
cruelfate45 3 years ago
James, how in the world did that entire confrontation get triggered, in an environment, totally based on expanding consciousness for everyone including the presenter? In all ur videos I have not sensed an egotistical approach at all. In fact, in our correspondence u have frequently mentioned that u dont have all the answers, voluntarily. Based on the enormous accurate information provided in this professional format u have a right to promote your book. I think the community owes u a debt.
OpenMind00 3 years ago
I felt it imp. to reveal that I too draw my critics and he so aptly reflects so many of Gurdjieff's admonishments.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Once I find a rabbit hole, I dig deeper Asap. My research on him has already begun, full speed ahead.
I cant believe I was not aware of Gurdjieff.
Thank you for opening that door.
OpenMind00 3 years ago
Your welcome;your comments and support are much appreciated.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
dr. mr. traitz, thanx from me. this has been a long journey for me. the loss of the false self is a painfull endever and without help it would be impossible. to know thyself is a journey through the darkest of forests. without you and others like you well... never mind i shouldnt speak of such things thankx again from a close admirer r.l.j.
ryancloprz 3 years ago
Somehow I knew and felt this before.
robbflynncs 3 years ago
"p.s. look at his hands and gestures, so primitiv."
In the martial arts there is a psychological technique that is used to psyche out and intimidate an opponent. This technique is to stare at his hands. This makes him 'self conscious.'
This makes the opponent doubt. In his moment of doubt, you get that momentary cubic centimeter of advantage and then you clobber him.
So, possibly, this is your subconscious intent when you "notice his hands" and you may be unconscious of this intent.
objectiveswrd 4 years ago
u are an idiot. Stay out of the discussion if u know nothing of the subject.
CT2507 4 years ago
Do you not see that calling others "scumbag" and "idiot" is contrary to Gurdjieff's teachings such as "do not internally consider" "aim to externally consider" "non-expression of negative emotions" "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others" "do not identify" dividing "I" and "false personality"
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
I told u once about "bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others"... its one of the last things that becomes possible for a human being! Much to evolved a topic for u. U cannot do it so stop talking about it. Show the subejct some respect.
CT2507 4 years ago
And no, i do not see calling u a scumbag is cntrary to Gurdjieff's teaching cause u deserve it! U didnt have to mention my name again after i left. But u couldnt let it be could u!? U had to save your face and reputation didnt u, u piece of horseshit, by bringing my name through the mud!
CT2507 4 years ago
I will not,hereafter,mention you or further respond; with this final comment of mine regarding you I will point out that you have now managed to: express more negative emotion,internally consider, identify,allowed one of your small "i"s'to have your false personality wounded-All in one comment!You provide a splendid example of Gurdjieff's admonitions for all my readers to see!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
HAHAHA... isnt it strange though that those of your readers here who know and care for Gurdjieff's teachings dont want anything to do with u!? :))
Why is that u think!
CT2507 3 years ago
There will be no further responses to your comments.All future stupity will be deleted,as it distracts from the teaching!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
haha.. ofcorse mr. teacher.. mr. censorship. U better delete everything from me and likeminded since it is not realy material for study as u said a couple of days before is it. Or is it just u know dont know how to REALY apply these reactions to your teachings!? I bet Gurdjieff would know how.
CT2507 3 years ago
no comment
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Owned. :3
Jaysnipes 3 years ago
he is good person looks nice and has quite logical thinking.of course he is intellectual not more but at least he never says that he himself is teacher he simply describes what he is learnt.good work go on.dosent matter that u himself live in theory.nice homework anyway:)
supralee 4 years ago
Thankyou.
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
haha.. yea, lick it up and suck it in. U will only recieve positive remarks from halfbrains like suprelee here who dont know that the f.. is going on and never did any real work eithe with Castaneada or Gurdjieff.
CT2507 4 years ago
(cont.) I have studied Einstein's theories on special and general relativity as well as quantum physics.Studying both the western and eastern philosopers and ancient Zen as well as the research being done by people like Dr.James J Hurtak of the Acadamy for Future Science,I came to discover a common thread in all the science ,philosophy and esoteric teachings such as Gurdjieff and Don Juan. Additionally I have been practicing a 4th way discipline for the past 18 years which I now teach.
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
I know my video veiwers may wonder about some of the 'ugly' or aggressive comments.I obviously could delete them as soon as they appear-but I do not,for a reason.These negative comments often reflect the very teaching covered in the video.Some of the comments may cause you to question my basis for what I say. Over the past 30 years I have studied all of Gurdjieff's writings as well as all of his students books.I personaly footnoted each book.I have done the same for all 12 of Castenada's (cont.)
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
The Way of the Warrior is a '4th way' system.The three traditional 'ways' are: 1.the way of the fakir (which is the way of the body) 2.the way of the monk (which is the way of the emotions) 3. the way of the yogi (which is the way of the mind/intellect)Each takes a long time as each works upon only one center! The 4th way is: 4. The way of the warrior (which works on three centers at once) Gurdjieff taught that one must join a school or teaching. There are those of us who teach 4th way!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
I will be filming a series of new videos showing 'movements' and further explaining how Gurdjieff's teaching is the same as 'Way of the Warrior'-both are 4th way teachings
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
Those who are rude and who post much here but say little or next to nothing are like the hired 'clappers' in an audience who wish to give the illusion of a consensus (consensual reality) , when in fact no such consensus really exist.
Their aim is to disrupt, add noise to the signal and obscure the message that is being
delivered.
objectiveswrd 4 years ago
That is exaclty true! Im no here to show my respect for the subject or the guy in the video, but quite the contrary and i have given my exact reasons for doing so. So dont say what is already obvious!
CT2507 4 years ago
Do you have constructive or informed commentary to offer? Does your own study and knowledge yield a philosophy, theory or idea that you would like to express.What are your own views on the current scientific beliefs and research regarding the universe,consciousness and the brain/mind debate now occuring, especially regarding the role of brain chemistry on the sense of "I"
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
I told u of the "law of resonance" but u made no comments or questions to that. Obviously u dont understand it. I told of 3 diferent kinds of magic. and it dont matter if u or anyone else here believe in magic or not. What is imortant in relation to magic is the INTENTION!! U only made a childish remark to that, again showing your superficial knowledge in the ocult realms.
CT2507 4 years ago
Gurdjieff was certainly aware of magic. When his school was visited by the famous black magician Alister Crowley, Gurdjieff sent all children out of the room and kept a very sharp eye on Crowley!
CT2507 4 years ago
So, to take the maters i showed to u so lightly, only goes to show that u dont have real experience and knowldege... only book knowledge. So why should i go deeper into these subjects when u dont even understand the obvious. That u dont have real knowledge and u should rather be honest and learn from those with greater experience than yourself!
CT2507 4 years ago
Those "Masters" who dabble in magic don't get it,they are on the outside looking in;Don Juan rightly pointed out that those sorcerers abandoned the Tonal for the Nagual and,while achieving power ,they failed to become men of knowledge -they never accomplished the 'Totality of oneself' and while you think it un-important I tell you that the way of the magician is NOT the true way!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
U dont have any contact with a live master so u have no idea what u are talking about. U dont have real experience. U are the one standing outside looking in. Anyways its time to move on.. it has been a waste of time here. But i didnt expect snobs like u being open for undertanding anyway. Just stoped by to let u know my opinion.
CT2507 4 years ago
The fact that you 'stick around' reveals that your are accessible, desperately clinging to anything and anybody(just as Don Juan said) hang on as long as you like.Guess I won't hear from you any longer unless you just can't shut up!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
haha... u so wish u could understand me dont u, to find some weak spots. Nah, i hang around cause of my love for Gurdjieff, and it pains me to see idiots making a crap of themselves in his name!
CT2507 4 years ago
Yes indeed! This reminds me of what DJ told C
in 'The Fire From Within':
"He explained that one of the greatest accomplishments of the seers of the Conquest was a construct he called the three-phase progression. By understanding the nature of man, they were able to reach the incontestable conclusion that if seers can hold their own in facing petty tyrants, they can certainly face the unknown with impunity, and then they can even stand the presence of the unknowable".
objectiveswrd 4 years ago
Ah! Very good, I had been utilizing CT2507 as a "petty tyrant"(per Don Juan).Also ,another parallel with Gurdjieff:"bearing the unpleasant manifestations of others" as a form of "conscious work and voluntary suffering". Incidently ,I knew that CT2507 wouldn't go away-He can't help himself and will continue to 'cling' for some time until his ego compels him to chase another car
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
what a bullshit. "don juan" is a fiktion.
and, what G. have to do with "way of warrior"?
he did not even use that word, never.
you are so unkompetent, so ignorant, shame on you.
lul7799 4 years ago
Wow,I 'hit a nerve' with you! It is you who doesn't understand. Gurdjieff was precisly teaching the way of the warrior. What is a shame is that you have learned nothing from Gurdjieff's teaching.
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
my dear internet-guru, I understand exactly what are you tryng to do, probably even better than yourself.
I have studied myself every line that G. und his direct pupils ever had writhen. and, I am working with that method since many years. so it is not problem at all to notice,
lul7799 4 years ago
after tree minutes of your video, that you dont have ANY IDEA what you talking about.
try to satysfy your material and psyhological needs IN SOME ONEST WAY! till that time, shame on you!
lul7799 4 years ago
You have failed to understand what you have read of Gurdjieff.Your angry response reflects both a failure to 'bear the unpleasing manifestations of others' youare also engaging in the 'expression of negative emotions'. Below I will briefly explain why Gurdjieff is teaching the way of the warrior ,which is known as a 4th way method.You say you have read "every line" then you surly know that one of his pupils books was actually titled:THE FOURTH WAY
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
it needs a litle bit more than to spend time with footnoting castanedas books. 12 books! dear God in heven, why should anybody do such a thing??! even an teenager notice that castanedas storys are pure fiction. man, if you realy want to make money as charlatan-guru, you have to do it better!
lul7799 4 years ago
your comments continue to prove usefull for my teaching!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
oh my, then, why do they suddenly dissapear?
anyway, you dont even understand them realy. it needs more of human substance, than you ever going to posses.
but, thats it, anybody can write a book, and there will always be some other people who are even bigger ignorants than the "autor" himself
lul7799 4 years ago
p.s. look at his hands and gestures, so primitiv...
lul7799 4 years ago
Yup.. in his anguish to present himself as an enlightend master at level 7, his gestures become ugly.. like a cacaphony. Something that inspires disgust!
CT2507 4 years ago
No they dont! lul7799's comments are devasting for you campaing and u know it! U sound like a stupid politician. Just trying to act cool and positive what ever happens right!? :))
Well this is not the age of politicians. They only inspire mistrust! Find better rolemodels u ape!
CT2507 4 years ago
I have freightened your false personality
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
I will be presenting more in depth teachings of Gurdjieff as well as Don Juan,seperatly,of course.I think the 'time' is right to explore Gurdjieff in some greater depth.I also will show some 'movements'-Should have it uploaded in 4-5 weeks!
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
To lul7799
Read the book 'Warrior's Way' by Robert de Ropp.
objectiveswrd 4 years ago
objectivswrd-your comments reflect understanding of Gurdjieff's words.Some of the others,such as CT2507 and lul7799 serve a useful purpose for the benefit of other readers of these video comments-as they provide real life examples of how some of Gurdjieff and Don Juan's readers get into difficulty in mis-applying and mis-interpreting the teachings
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
Were u talking about be u scumbag!? hahaha... such a hipocrit and self taught piece of crap. U still never made any intelligent answers to my two subjects which shows where your knowledge ends. And there is simply no reason for me to even begin adding more information to your ramblings since u have shown your level of understanding all to clearly!
CT2507 4 years ago
3 days back you mentioned your love of Gurdjieff.If you aim to represent the results of practicing Gurdjieff's teaching how do you suppose the insulting and degrading language that you use in your comments will reflect on the teaching
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
It reflects perfectly well since im sure Gurdjieff didnt like people like u. He would be pleased to know that there are some out to defend his name and work.
Besides im not aiming to represent Gurdjieff teachings, u are. I know my limits and would never presume to be a teacher in the system of Gurdjieff. That door was closed when he died and he didnt leave a master to take his place!
CT2507 4 years ago
In fact he was very specific that the exercise of "stop" was not to be performed and guided by someone other than a master who could "feel" for the others. And yet i see it happening in all Gurdjieff centers all over the world! Fools!!!
CT2507 4 years ago
haha.. true! Give him lul7799! Knock some sense into this imposters head!
CT2507 4 years ago
I fail to see how these comments of yours are consistent with Gurdjieff's teachings.
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
Gurdjieff was also scolding the idiots. There u have your consistency!
CT2507 4 years ago
CT2507 Let us both keep our comments respectfull in the spirit of the subject matter we are addressing,accordingly I have removed my last comment to you and your last comment to me ,both of which were unnecessarily inappropriate. You have said that the "u prick" comment was not meant for me and I apologize for the misunderstanding.
JamesJTraitz 4 years ago
mhm...
CT2507 4 years ago