when i was about 3 i was swimming in a public pool with my babysitter,we were the only ones there, men in suits walked up and started taking pictures,my babysitter was angry,the men said something rude and walked away, I knew they were evil.
@RePetes1, This is getting too silly for me. I am going to bow out of this with you, since you are convinced of what you. Let the record here show, at least, that I am not conceding your fantastical notion that "50,000 babies devoured by satan-worshippers yearly and 9/11 holographic planes" are anything more than sill conspiracy theories. You have no evidence. "Rusty Nelson said so" is not evidence. If you had actual evidence, then that should be examined. You present none.
I truly believe that most satanist are merely delusional morons, not liable to sacrifice or rape children, -despite Crowley condoning such conduct.
For anyone else not able to discern the ´satanic panic' - semantic noise-masking you´re continuously applying, -from the actual case referred to in this feed;
Neither Mr.Nelson -or silly me-made claims about eating 50.000 babies. Or holographic planes. You presented nothing directly linked to his case.
@RePetes1, Wikipedia articles are based on documentation, or they are flagged and corrected. If you have any suitable refutation to the article you read, I hope you submit it. Seriously. This seems important to you. But you are mistaken, the most authoritative article I provided was written by the FBI special agent who was assigned the task of getting to the bottom of this "satanic conspiracy", and like it or not, he found no evidence that it was true. Did you read it?
I did, and he surely found no evidence that 50.000 babies were devoured by satan-worshippers on an annual basis. A freshly assigned 9/11-commission would probably not find evidence of holographic planes, either. Obviously you did´nt look into the issues on 'wiki-mentation'
However, this STILL is not what RN is talking about; he was entangled in the 'Franklin cover-up', -which apparently also happened to involve a theatrical cult-leader. -now, this part seems important to you?
@peteromich, @RonPaulorDie, @RePetes1, as promised in my very first comment on this thread, I will provide the main source in support of my contention that Mr. Nelson's so-called "testimony" is *NOT* testimony, but lies made up to perpetuate an urban myth. Since youtube does not allow the posting of links, you will have to google this document yourself. It is readily available from a google search: "INVESTIGATOR'S GUIDE TO ALLEGATIONS OF 'RITUAL' CHILD ABUSE" by FBI Special Agent K. Lanning.
@RePetes1, The claims made in this youtube video attributed to Rusty Nelson as "testimony" are false. These are the perpetuation of an urban myth. You are asking me if the brainwashed children cared which flavor of brainwashing was used... it never happened. Not as a widespread conspiracy. Mr. Nelson is lying. Go to google, and type in "satanic panic". Read the wikipedia article, and the about.com article that come up, for starters.
?.. none of these articles mentions Rusty or 'Franklin'..
Anyway, i would´nt quite´ve attributed 'wikipedia' or 'about' the indisputable authority to so definitively dismiss mr. Nelson´s account as lies. - I suggest you google '(either)+misleads' (..for starters)
Besides; the lack of ref. to controversy, regarding evidence lost, stolen & ignored (e.i. the tunnel-system -w.bathroom-access- excavated beneath the McMartin PS) seems to suggest a 'special interest' -redaction..
@RonPaulorDie, Your comment to me seems to indicate that you did not read what I wrote. I did not say anything about a slip knot. What I said was that I do not wish to blindly believe in hoaxes that have not been substantiated by any real evidence; and furthermore, that "witness testimony" is a very weak form of evidence when it is not further substantiated by anything empirical. If you have an intelligible disagreement with that position, perhaps you would prefer to post *that*??
@peteromich, Possible reasons/causes for how this panic came about, *other* than the crimes really happening, have been postulated and accepted. For example, witness contamination, and witnesses with psych disorders who later admitted they lied for attention. Yet, still, not a single arrest or conviction of a so-called "satanic ritual crime". I am going to side with reason and evidence on this one.
@peteromich, start with "satanic ritual abuse" at Wikipedia.
The phenomenon involved a widespread panic with many witness testimonies, but no arrests or convictions. Witness testimony that is not corroborated by empirical (crime scene) evidence is not strong evidence. The full force of the FBI was brought to bear on this problem, and the matter has been brought to a close as unsubstantiated panic.
@peteromich, let's not immediately discredit you based on your superstitions about my screen name. Instead, let's be rational. You say, "yeah right they've been debunked". I am prepared to cite official sources. But before I do, I ask you... Do you know something I don't know about there being "ritual satanic abuse crimes"? Can you name just *one* arrest or conviction? This was a hysteria that sprang up in the '80s, and it produced no evidence. It is an urban myth.
@fringegirl666 I mean, am I wrong though? It's not ironic that a satanic minion is denying satanic abuse crimes? Alright! I must interrupt myself here and make it known that I, too, am a friend of reason and evidence and all that Good stuff - and let us not forget humor.
And with that last thought still in our minds, let us say a prayer:
Lord, keep us from temptation, and all the lies of the Evil One! Amen!
..Jesus, Satan, Wotan -and/or Buttercup the magic Unicorn aside - the particular brand of mindf*ck spicing up the conditioning-drills for flawless servility and endurance at pedophilia-conventions, ..were probably not the main issue for all those kids who had their childhood extensively debunked.. ?
Okay, so quite possibly one of the most important questions (7:38) - and the answer (presumably it was answered) is edited out? WTF? I mean if you are revealing all of this why leave that out? It's pretty obvious they were killed - I guess the real shocker would be if it was some sort of ritual sacrifice/"snuff" activity in the White House. EIther way, it's horrific. I don't know how this guy is still alive (if he still is) or how this interview is even allowed here. Disbelief is sooo tempting..
@NewtonDKC Their is real denomic power that people obtain in rituals.This stuff is all through history and in the Bible(KJV).God commands man to stay away from those spirits,gods,and devils.He is the only God that deserves worship and tells man not to meddle in the Satans work.Satan is a liar and is defeated,knows his destiny and wants to take as many souls with him to hell.Jesus is the only God in the flesh to have ever lived perfect,died for our sins and rose again.salvation is a gift.Romans8
the answer at 7 38 was edited accidentally i think . i have heard the full interview with Rusty what he said was "i would bet they are probably with the fishes" he was only saying he thought they were dead.Rusty is still alive because he still has pictures as his insurance
If you have´nt watched it already; 'conspiracy of silence' - Discovery documentary on the 'Franklin' that never aired, for several reasons.. you might experience the tempting disbelief gradually being substituted by chills of horror. Anything with John De Camp or Ted Gunderson would probably not ease the sneakin´ suspicion that these allegations are not quite as 'debunked' as some would like them to appear..
I'm guessing they rely on the fact that so few people will ever stumble across it, of those that do, most will never believe it, won't be able to handle it (denial), will be shocked and distraught but powerless to do anything about it, or -the few who try to draw attention to it -probably end up like the poor kids at 7:38. Perhaps they just don't care if anyone knows -too powerful and/or too late for what may come. I guess hoping "they" are a nightmare since taken out is out of the question?
when i was about 3 i was swimming in a public pool with my babysitter,we were the only ones there, men in suits walked up and started taking pictures,my babysitter was angry,the men said something rude and walked away, I knew they were evil.
verdemanthe1 1 month ago
this is about satanic abuse crimes?
MichaelHansenFUN 2 months ago
Stockholm Syndrome - was thinking it and then typing it -as it was spoken - CRAZY!
bumcheek7 2 months ago
@RePetes1, This is getting too silly for me. I am going to bow out of this with you, since you are convinced of what you. Let the record here show, at least, that I am not conceding your fantastical notion that "50,000 babies devoured by satan-worshippers yearly and 9/11 holographic planes" are anything more than sill conspiracy theories. You have no evidence. "Rusty Nelson said so" is not evidence. If you had actual evidence, then that should be examined. You present none.
fringegirl666 3 months ago
@fringegirl666
Ok.
let the 'record' also show;
I truly believe that most satanist are merely delusional morons, not liable to sacrifice or rape children, -despite Crowley condoning such conduct.
For anyone else not able to discern the ´satanic panic' - semantic noise-masking you´re continuously applying, -from the actual case referred to in this feed;
Neither Mr.Nelson -or silly me-made claims about eating 50.000 babies. Or holographic planes. You presented nothing directly linked to his case.
RePetes1 3 months ago
@RePetes1, Wikipedia articles are based on documentation, or they are flagged and corrected. If you have any suitable refutation to the article you read, I hope you submit it. Seriously. This seems important to you. But you are mistaken, the most authoritative article I provided was written by the FBI special agent who was assigned the task of getting to the bottom of this "satanic conspiracy", and like it or not, he found no evidence that it was true. Did you read it?
fringegirl666 3 months ago
@fringegirl666
I did, and he surely found no evidence that 50.000 babies were devoured by satan-worshippers on an annual basis. A freshly assigned 9/11-commission would probably not find evidence of holographic planes, either. Obviously you did´nt look into the issues on 'wiki-mentation'
However, this STILL is not what RN is talking about; he was entangled in the 'Franklin cover-up', -which apparently also happened to involve a theatrical cult-leader. -now, this part seems important to you?
RePetes1 3 months ago
@peteromich, @RonPaulorDie, @RePetes1, as promised in my very first comment on this thread, I will provide the main source in support of my contention that Mr. Nelson's so-called "testimony" is *NOT* testimony, but lies made up to perpetuate an urban myth. Since youtube does not allow the posting of links, you will have to google this document yourself. It is readily available from a google search: "INVESTIGATOR'S GUIDE TO ALLEGATIONS OF 'RITUAL' CHILD ABUSE" by FBI Special Agent K. Lanning.
fringegirl666 3 months ago
@RePetes1, The claims made in this youtube video attributed to Rusty Nelson as "testimony" are false. These are the perpetuation of an urban myth. You are asking me if the brainwashed children cared which flavor of brainwashing was used... it never happened. Not as a widespread conspiracy. Mr. Nelson is lying. Go to google, and type in "satanic panic". Read the wikipedia article, and the about.com article that come up, for starters.
fringegirl666 3 months ago
@fringegirl666
?.. none of these articles mentions Rusty or 'Franklin'..
Anyway, i would´nt quite´ve attributed 'wikipedia' or 'about' the indisputable authority to so definitively dismiss mr. Nelson´s account as lies. - I suggest you google '(either)+misleads' (..for starters)
Besides; the lack of ref. to controversy, regarding evidence lost, stolen & ignored (e.i. the tunnel-system -w.bathroom-access- excavated beneath the McMartin PS) seems to suggest a 'special interest' -redaction..
RePetes1 3 months ago
@RonPaulorDie, Your comment to me seems to indicate that you did not read what I wrote. I did not say anything about a slip knot. What I said was that I do not wish to blindly believe in hoaxes that have not been substantiated by any real evidence; and furthermore, that "witness testimony" is a very weak form of evidence when it is not further substantiated by anything empirical. If you have an intelligible disagreement with that position, perhaps you would prefer to post *that*??
fringegirl666 3 months ago
@peteromich, Possible reasons/causes for how this panic came about, *other* than the crimes really happening, have been postulated and accepted. For example, witness contamination, and witnesses with psych disorders who later admitted they lied for attention. Yet, still, not a single arrest or conviction of a so-called "satanic ritual crime". I am going to side with reason and evidence on this one.
fringegirl666 4 months ago
@peteromich, start with "satanic ritual abuse" at Wikipedia.
The phenomenon involved a widespread panic with many witness testimonies, but no arrests or convictions. Witness testimony that is not corroborated by empirical (crime scene) evidence is not strong evidence. The full force of the FBI was brought to bear on this problem, and the matter has been brought to a close as unsubstantiated panic.
fringegirl666 4 months ago
@peteromich, let's not immediately discredit you based on your superstitions about my screen name. Instead, let's be rational. You say, "yeah right they've been debunked". I am prepared to cite official sources. But before I do, I ask you... Do you know something I don't know about there being "ritual satanic abuse crimes"? Can you name just *one* arrest or conviction? This was a hysteria that sprang up in the '80s, and it produced no evidence. It is an urban myth.
fringegirl666 4 months ago
@fringegirl666 I mean, am I wrong though? It's not ironic that a satanic minion is denying satanic abuse crimes? Alright! I must interrupt myself here and make it known that I, too, am a friend of reason and evidence and all that Good stuff - and let us not forget humor.
And with that last thought still in our minds, let us say a prayer:
Lord, keep us from temptation, and all the lies of the Evil One! Amen!
...hehehehe
Peteromich 3 months ago
This is garbage. Ritual satanic abuse crime myths have been extensively debunked.
fringegirl666 5 months ago
@fringegirl666 Yeah right they've been debunked. And it's an ironic thing to say what with your name ending with 666.
Peteromich 4 months ago
@fringegirl666 sigh. keep singing along to slipknot or whatever and ignoring the reality. brings tears
RonPaulOrDie 3 months ago
@fringegirl666
..Jesus, Satan, Wotan -and/or Buttercup the magic Unicorn aside - the particular brand of mindf*ck spicing up the conditioning-drills for flawless servility and endurance at pedophilia-conventions, ..were probably not the main issue for all those kids who had their childhood extensively debunked.. ?
RePetes1 3 months ago
Okay, so quite possibly one of the most important questions (7:38) - and the answer (presumably it was answered) is edited out? WTF? I mean if you are revealing all of this why leave that out? It's pretty obvious they were killed - I guess the real shocker would be if it was some sort of ritual sacrifice/"snuff" activity in the White House. EIther way, it's horrific. I don't know how this guy is still alive (if he still is) or how this interview is even allowed here. Disbelief is sooo tempting..
NewtonDKC 8 months ago 5
@NewtonDKC Their is real denomic power that people obtain in rituals.This stuff is all through history and in the Bible(KJV).God commands man to stay away from those spirits,gods,and devils.He is the only God that deserves worship and tells man not to meddle in the Satans work.Satan is a liar and is defeated,knows his destiny and wants to take as many souls with him to hell.Jesus is the only God in the flesh to have ever lived perfect,died for our sins and rose again.salvation is a gift.Romans8
TheKJVforever 5 months ago
@NewtonDKC
the answer at 7 38 was edited accidentally i think . i have heard the full interview with Rusty what he said was "i would bet they are probably with the fishes" he was only saying he thought they were dead.Rusty is still alive because he still has pictures as his insurance
rbeck3200tb40 4 months ago
@NewtonDKC
If you have´nt watched it already; 'conspiracy of silence' - Discovery documentary on the 'Franklin' that never aired, for several reasons.. you might experience the tempting disbelief gradually being substituted by chills of horror. Anything with John De Camp or Ted Gunderson would probably not ease the sneakin´ suspicion that these allegations are not quite as 'debunked' as some would like them to appear..
RePetes1 3 months ago
@NewtonDKC That's exactly what I was about to post.
EyeThirdThe 2 months ago
I'm guessing they rely on the fact that so few people will ever stumble across it, of those that do, most will never believe it, won't be able to handle it (denial), will be shocked and distraught but powerless to do anything about it, or -the few who try to draw attention to it -probably end up like the poor kids at 7:38. Perhaps they just don't care if anyone knows -too powerful and/or too late for what may come. I guess hoping "they" are a nightmare since taken out is out of the question?
NewtonDKC 8 months ago
what is that sound that keeps going off, it is absolutely obnoxious. (are you trying to mind control me, boy?)
MRBORGHEAD 1 year ago
there is something creepy about this guy posing. (lumber jack)
MRBORGHEAD 1 year ago
@MRBORGHEAD First I thought it is Charles Manson.
VitoPossilipo 9 months ago