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  • I have studied this under uncle Larry and I agree.  At full speed this is just PAIN. do not judge a book by its cover. the concepts are sound and work very well.

  • That's not MARTIAL ART !!! It's a shame for the KENPO KARATE guys like that !!! Thx @ FishEaster

  • @djtone78 - Kosho Ryu Kempo is not a style, it's a concept.

  • Been checking out all the conflicting post's about mr. Juchnik and dont really give a shit about the details, the man is truly a master of martial movement!

  • @66chilin - Well said.

  • How come Bruce, Dave Champ and so many other Kosho Ryu people are so overweight? ok. Jon Ludwig is nice and trimmed, but most are so fat. Thomas Mitose, Soke, has also gotten so chubby.

  • @FishEaster You know sometime "time" just catches up to you. But I am telling you you don't want to take any of his techniques at ful speed and power. i had the honor of training with him this past Oct. and was very impressed and learned alot he is fast and strong. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

  • @FishEaster - True many Americans are over weight, I think you're confusing fitness with knowledge & skill. Many see the martial arts as how well one can project a kick, punch, etc... The concept is referred to as "young forest," in having room to move. Arts like Kung~Fu.

    Kosho is old forest," you take away your opponents position & room to move against you. Arts like Akido, Ju~Jitsu. You don't have to be in great shape to turn an opponents energy against themselves, just skilled like Bruce.

  • @FishEaster

    Because they are lazy... And Jon Ludwig might be trimmed, but i saw him literally cry when some guy started a fight with him in a bar... Actually cried! I had to step in! It was quite pathetic.

  • a donde pega por dios ese tipo es farsa!!! van todos los puños al aire!!! por eso los esquiva!!!

  • @rakatakaaaaa es cierto :D

  • very nice demonstration

  • James M. Mitose...

    I know that history...

    family history.

    I´m a yoshida.

  • If you are then can you share some information with us?

  • @GlaciorSimoes - "Yoshida" is a Japanese surname of family lineage, it is not a rank.

    I think the term you meant was "Yodancha," meaning a serious student, it refers to the rank of black belt, but I guess you knew that!

  • HANSHI BRUCE JUCHNIK: KOSHO SHOREI RYU SEMINAR IN PUERTO RICO. Date: Nov 21 in Yauco & 22 in Aguadilla. From 8am - 12pm. For More Info: 787-458-5170

  • So Kosho-Ryu kenpo from Mitose...

    Kara-Ho kempo from Chow....

    Shaolin Kenpo from Castro, Ralph

    Kajukenbo from bunch of 5, then Emporado

    American Kenpo-Parker

    Did I get it right?

  • @momobena - I believe you did get that right and know what you are talking about. ( ;

    Chows Kempo has also been referred to as "Chinese Kenpo." Although the art of Kempo (Natural Law) is actually Japanese. It's roots come from China, from Sholin Chuan~Fa.

  • We learn Koshoryu kenpo at dodge city community college. good instructor.

  • youcan, I have not studied the chi lin art since the late80's-early 90's. I learned several of their forms and application, but I wanted something more. I have never found any of the seniors who could scrap like Decker could. I attended the chi lin weekend, I have sparred with the chuan-fa and chi lin kempo side and after training with Kenneth Chung and Eddie Chong I was not impressed with the chi lin fighting ability. But that is my personal taste and what works for me.

  • seng - I agree Decker could fight. sengcamp - you attended the chi lin weekend in April 2009?

  • No, like I said I have not studied chi lin since back in the late 80's-early 90's. Nice looking forms and I still remember them. But I don't practice them anymore. Yes, Decker was good but I believe his students are missing something. Then when I met Kenneth Chung, K-D BAR the door. Ken is considered to have the best hands in the U.S. and I am a believer.

  • youcan, I will gladly meet you when it is convenient. I can prove what I am saying. juchnik is a clever con-artist. I was deceived for a short while also. The guy tells you what you want to hear and plays on your desires. And rest ashore there is always money involved. juchnik is selling rank that he is not qualified to do.

  • youcan, I am not doubting juchnik and Decker's friendship. They did meet a couple times a year in Michigan. juchnik does not know chi lin and never did master it. juchnik was teaching me the tiger form, from which he had a video of Decker preforming. I gave juchnik $50 for a copy of the video and juchnik would lie about sending it to me. I have a copy of the cashed check and a very good witness. I never did receive the video. The tiger form he taught was all wrong.

  • Hanshi Juchnik knows Chi Lin. He taught me, yes his tiger and crane form is different, He learned it from Dennis Decker later in his life time. Sifu Mike Snyder and Sifu Scott Felson's tiger and crane form are also both different although they were both taught by Dennis Decker. I doubt he deliberately lied to you about the tape.

  • sengcamp - I am thankful for the Great teachings we have out there today! I was reading one of your post, and you said your studying BJJ.

  • youcan, You are making assumptions. I am not doing this out of anger. What he did to me and the lies after lies that he told me when I confronted him is water under the bridge. I am just trying to do what is right and help keep other people from losing money and making the same mistakes that I did. I believe in doing what is right. Not self-righteousness and promoting something you did not earn or deserve like your fake Kosho rank and it is not your fault. Well only 1/2 your fault.

  • sengcamp - I am a seeker of Information, and will always remember that we are people. I try to seek out as much info as possible. I will share some of the history I have heard, and have on video. Maybe you could do the same. I would be interested to hear your historical side to the stories.

  • youcan, I want to see your old interviews. I can tell if they are Mitose's or juchnik's people. Very important. juchnik fabricated a lot of things. Even forged signatures.

  • youcan, juchnik seized on the opportunity when GM Mitose died. juchnik has a history of taking advantage of other people's misfortune. juchnik did the same when GM Decker in the chi lin system passed away. juchnik can't even do a chi lin form correct and now claims to be a master of chi lin. juchnik is only a gifted master of the con-arts.

  • Sen - You should ask Master Scott Felsen-Inheritor of Chi Ling Pai, about Bruce Juchnik, and Dennis Deckers friendship? * They just did a work shop Apr 25th-26th 2009 in Georgia. * They well be at Las Vegas as well, gave that info to you already. You should seek it out, and ask? See you there!

  • Youcan, You can't even spell GM Mitose's name right. You make up false comments to try to cover for juchnik. I guess the contract to teach me was half my fault. Where I come from you could always trust a man's word. I should have done more research, like you should do, and find out that juchnik is and was a con-man.

  • Sencamp - you may have had a bad business deal with Bruce 30 years ago. (1/2 your fault) Bruce Juchnik got info from Mistose, Kosho is alive, and well today. The reason Mistose is talked about so much today is because of Bruce Juchnik keep it out there. Long before the son step up or Terry lee, or Tracys. I have been around some of the greatest names in the business, and somebody is always putting someone down now matter where you go. (Did not like their seminar, or the class) What ever!

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  • Bruce Juchnik is a gifted, and talented Artist. I will work on pulling out some old interviews that were taken years ago about the rank, people in the mix, and some insights about what went on with Mistose at Folsom.

  • s1000, I like juchnid's hideous story about going to the Folsom prison and GM Mitose giving him the full control of the kosho system. Like he got training from behind a plexi-glass window. Do you think the guards would allow him to do any moves much less have any time. Other than 5-10 minutes. And the other tale about not talking to his son. LOL! And the funny thing is naive people believe it. Because juchnik tells them what they want to hear and gives them the rank when they pay their fees!

  • **Sengcamp again you are speaking from anger, and no Info. **You are truly blinded by your own self-esteem; an inflated sense of self-worth.

  • youcan, Here is some info. Look on juchnik's wall he had an Honorary certificate from GM Decker and covered up the word honorary with a card. Look for yourself. Also have juchnik to preform chi lin's basic 5-animals form. I would like to see it. That would be hilarious.

  • s1000, How does it feel having a black belt that you paid for and did not earn? It is not from a legitimate master.

  • s1000, At least I did not get my rank by paying my fees and getting my C's (seminar program) LOL! You probably got a black belt from the back pages of a comic book also.

  • s1000, You said so yourself, you work a job, train 6 days a week, take a seminar every weekend. Which totals 8 days. You are no service to your family, community or country. You set behind a computer and make fun of those who do. You only serve yourself. You are nothing but a self-serving COWARD!

  • Seng, It's nice to see you at your best! Looks like I really struck a nerve.. ha ha ha

    It really didn't take much...

  • s1000, You should think before you speak. You made a liar out of yourself with attending hundred's of seminars, one every weekend. How much money do you have tied up in training? You must not have a family, to be gone every weekend. Your nothing but a con-artist. Just keep on lying.

  • s1000, Correction you said you have attended hundreds of seminars and juchnik teaches all over the world. But I thought you would be with him down on your knees. I guess you don't believe other people have hobbies. Unless juchnik tells you so. I don't know why you worship a con-artist. Like you said it must get your rocks off. I will use one of your childish comments. Since you school and training does not teach honor and respect. Your true colors show and you are a bottom feeder, a low life.

  • Seng I never said I went to hundreds of seminars all over the world? You goofball... Take afew minutes and go back and read back what I wrote... at least get it right! Oh I guess your right in the middle of a search and rescue with your camera around your neck or in the middle of one of your lessons,(joke) or probably just sitting on your ass behind a computer. I know this attention is making your day! So go at it and jerk till you pass out! lol

  • s1000, I can prove mine. You can only come up with childish comments, and foolish ones like attending hundreds of seminars all over the world and attending one every weekend. You still can't come up with juchnik's teachers in which he mastered 6 martial arts and their living location. Your a fool for not questioning absurd comments and then making your own. That's your problem you have never had a teacher and with your ego, never will. Your a lost cause, a bottom feeder, stay there.

  • Seng... you're hoping that some day a teacher will hold your hand and gently guide your sorry retired ass.

    I do have to admit, you haven't lost your imagination and wishful thinking!

    Your making your own false comments I didn't have to.

  • The beauty of retirement is you can do what you want to do, and when you want to do it. I still enjoy helping people.

  • s1000, Less see I have lost my zeal for life. I still study the Martial Arts; Wing Chun, Gracie BJJ, Escrima, and Internal Chinese M.A. , Native American culture. I do outdoor photography, A volunteer for wilderness search and rescue, I cut and chop firewood for the disabled and elderly at no cost. I am a motorcycle enthusiast and do a lot of travel. Your right I have lost my zeal.

  • s1000, Now I know why you use that title s1000, because you would have to be 1000 yrs. old to pull off your lies about hundreds of seminars You have been shamed and now you are making false comments about me.

  • Seng, I know you're just getting your rocks off on all this because obviously your just a has been and lost your zeal in life... After your comments about what it takes to become proficient, I now know that you are so full of crap and now I leave you in it... you are no threat to Hanchi Juchnik or to anyone else.

  • Oh yes I am a threat to you and juchnik, whether you want to admit it or not. If I can raise people's awareness so they will start questioning your lies and deceit, that is a threat. I can back up my claims and the more you try, the bigger the fool you look. Every time you open your mouth, you remove all doubt.

  • I have already caught you up in several lies. i.e. amount of seminar attendance. Crunch the numbers and you would have to be over 100 yrs. old. juchnik is guilty as well claiming to be master's of 1/2 dozen martial arts where his instructor lives in another state. You guys need to be more honest with yourself and others. You have lost respect. Clean up your act.

  • Are you guys telling me that you got your black belts in kosho through the seminar method? If so you are scamming your students. No way can you get proficient without the constant day to day tutelage of a qualified instructor. There are several major and minor movements and correct body alignments. You develop bad habits and it is carried on. You just want to feed your ego by calling yourself a black belt that you did not really earn.

  • youcan ,I don't need the money, it is the principal of the thing. You don't blame and complain and make it to where I am. You just showed everyone on the web how dumb and naive you are. You need to grow a pair!

  • youcan, Why would you try to defend a liar and cheat unless your are one? Let juchnik defend himself. We need more good leaders to stand up to these predators. Be a man and do the same.

  • youcan, i am just trying to help other people from being cheated. People in the world need to start saying NO to con-artist. Wall Street and the Banking industry are full of them. If you are one who is trying to do the same lie to people, then you need to shut and take your medicine.

  • shihan - sencamp is the student in every training hall no matter were you go, the one who is blaming, and complaining, and not training. When they go home they tell their buddys should have seen me today. HAHAHA! Sencamp you have told us who you are! Thanks for the lesson.

  • You guys get in your circle jerk that you call the ring of fire and pat each other on the back telling each other how excellent each other is. And who knows what else you do. LOL! None of are man enough to put it to the test.

  • sen - you are the problem with the leadership today! You tell the world how you got wronged by some mean guy out of Sacramento 30 years ago on the World Wide Web. Then you want a refund, and the world to feel sorry for you! WOW! You point 1 finger at Bruce, and 3 are pointing back at you. We are all reasonable for following through on our own issues. Deal with them at the time, and leave it behind.

  • s1000, What you are trying to get people to believe, than you need to be over 100 yrs. old. Do the math before you make a fool out of yourself the next time. You are not as good at conning people like juchnik is. You need more training. Maybe juchnik should give you a seminar in being a good con-artist. LOL!

  • I am not Brewer. He too is an excellent martial artist.

  • yes I am older that 46yrs old. You have no Idea of how much time I have put into my training! My training started at 3 1/2yrs old. so I guess you are right, I did start very early! Now you're questioning my training? I have 40yrs in the martial arts, but that wasn't what I started in first! And how do you know how long it takes to become proficient? I trained 6 days a week, and went to seminars 3 to 4 times a month! I've never known Hanchi to have only 1 seminar every 3mts.

  • Do you realize how silly you sound? Do you expect people with a little since to believe you? Less see you said juchnik gives seminars all over the world, so you are training 6 days a week and 4 seminars a mo. That is 36 days/mo., not possible, especially including your travel time all over the world. Your full of BS - 3 1/2 yr. old killer ninja. I believe your brain is still stuck at the 3 1/2 yr. old stage in a make believe world.

  • shihan sencamp is the student in every training hall no matter were you go, the one who is blaming, and complaining, and not training. When they go home they tell their buddys should have seen me today. HAHAHA! Sencamp you have told us who you are! Thanks for the lesson.

  • youcan, The senior in chi lin was Noah. Now it is someone else. I have seen real chi lin and what juchnik tried to execute was horrible to say the least. I don' t know where the ring of fire is. But at least it has Dan Inosanto.

  • Sifu Scott Felsen has studied and taught Chi Lin for the last 28 years and has inherited the art from his teacher, Grandmaster Denis R. Decker.

  • Noah was the senior back in the 70's. I guess it changed hands.

  • Brewer, Correction if you did 300-400 seminars, one every quarter you would have be between 75 and 100 years old, assuming you started as an infant. A lot older than juchnik.

  • sencamp - some of us have been those Men in uniform. You wont hear the trash talking about the men, and woman from me. (The Big Red 1)

  • sencamp - shihans name is not Brewer!

  • sengcamp - Bruce will be teaching at the RING OF FIRE 2009 **JUNE 27 & 28, 2009** DAN INOSANTO, BRUCE JUCHNIK, And SCOTT FELSEN - the head of Chi Lin Pai. *** why do not you come and ask Scott Felsen about the rank Bruce holds in Chi Lin.

  • I would like to see juchnik to get my money back. And let the public know what he did.

  • Brewer, You must be older than 46. Because if you did hundred's of seminars for example less say 400 on the smaller side of hundred's. And you did a seminar every quarter (3 mos) . Less see that is 33 yrs. Besides you can not master an art by the seminar method. You need day to day instruction to prevent bad habits or wrong techniques.

  • My beef is not with you guys. It is with juchnik. Let the thieving, lying coward defend himself. Don't give me the BS that this is beneath him. Because juchnik is a bottom feeder.

  • Brewer, Man you guys are brain dead. I did not study kosho. juchnik portrayed knowing an art called chi lin that he did not know. Once he got my money I would show up and would not receive any chi lin but be given exercises or arnis which I did not sign up for. Not in my contract.

  • Brewer, The sad part is you guys don't even want to know the truth. You have put so much time, money and sweat in your deceived world that you are in the state of denial. If you try to think outside the box, you are controlled and scolded by juchnik. You have lost control of your most important weapon "Your Mind".

  • Yes we have put a lot of time, money, and sweat into training and teaching. There has been a great deal of personal satisfaction, fulfillment, and personal growth involved. I want to hundreds of seminars Taught by Hanchi Juchnik and they were all very informative. I always felt like I got the better end of the deal. You never studied long enough to learn or appreciate the true essence of Kosho.

  • The problem is you can not answer the question. I confronted juchnik several times, he would lie and con his way out. I have a very good witness. I have good evidence that juchnik is a con-man. For God sake quit bashing the Military. The Military is full of Men and Woman that are a lot braver than you guys.

  • I will keep this simple so you can understand. What 1/2 doz. M.A.'s is juchnik a master in? Who were his Instructors? And where did the Instructors live? Very important. You should always questions things, don't be naive. juchnik lives in Sac.,C.A. , If his instructor was from the East coast, no way would he have the time in to master the art. Do the math.

  • Seng, I really don't know what else to say other then you have your arts that you train in and I have mine. I figured a "military guy" like you would have more self respect and discipline than to go around tarnishing someone's name like this. In my opinion if you really think you were wronged you should either confront Hanshi Juchnik or STFU about it already. I have nothing more to say about this I am done. If this is what our military is made of I am really concerned for our future.

  • Do you have a learning disability or what? How many times do I have to say I have confronted juchnik. Just because you are scared of him, doesn't mean other people are. Is a tiger afraid of a turtle?

  • sengcamp - you are the tiger 30 years later! You have told the world you could not even deal with it. It hunts you everyday. Very Interesting!

  • @sengcamp Yes! Tigress the tiger had much fear and respect for the old turtle "Master Ugway," whom was her sensi's teacher in the movie Kung~Fu Panda!

  • See what your doing? Now your questioning all his ranks. Hanchi Juchnik has taught a lot of people from all over the world, like me who's got 40yrs of martial arts experience and not in just one art. I don't care if he has 50 certificates hanging in his office. If he couldn't teach me what I want to know I wouldn't have studied from him, plain and simple. I think that goes for everyone else from all over the world! Get a life... He has one and he's doing something with his!

  • It's bad enough that juchnik con's people in the Sacramento area, but to go all over the world and con people that's horrible.

  • Brewer, You keep talking about 40 yrs M.A. experience. It is not about quantity, it's quality. If someone spends 40 yrs. in the 1st grade and another spends 16 yrs. in education and gets a college degree, which is worth more? I have seen athletic people study Muay Thai for 6mos. and go through black belts like Sherman went through Georgia.

  • @sengcamp - I once went up against Brewer, he is incredibly well skilled. I will never under estimate him again.

  • sky, I tried to deal with it 22 yrs. ago. I confronted juchnik several times, he would lie and con his way out. I have a very good witness. And I would like the chance to prove your slander against me with my military record..Your the one talking brave behind a screen. I have good evidence that juchnik is a con-man.

  • sky, How can you respect someone, who does not respect them self? jucknik is an alcoholic and is over weight.

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  • sengcamp - everybody has something going on. Camp you should have had the guts to deal with the issue at the time. Not 30 years later sitting behind a computer talking trash. Sign of weakness Sir! Where is all your training? Are you telling everybody on the world wide web that you had NO BALLS to deal with it or are you just a Whiner! Which is it!

  • Youcan, I have always tried to do what is right. I have been blessed many times over. I have a good family and I am proud of my service to this Great Country. What is wrong with exposing someone who lied, deceived and took money with out delivering a product. That's called stealing.

  • youcan, I tried to deal with it 22 yrs. ago. I confronted juchnik several times, he would lie and con his way out. I have a very good witness. Your the one talking brave behind a screen. I have good evidence that juchnik is a con-man. And yes, I am ready to play ball.

  • So you don't respect Hanchi Juchnik because he's over weight and has an illness. Who are you to judge? It must be really lonely at the top ( of your Ego).

    Wow, at first I thought you had a real beef with Bruce personally, but your problem is you think that people who are martial artist are suppose to be without flaws, physical, mental, or psychological!

    You must look so HOT even the dudes want you! Go back to your mirror pretty boy! The arts are for any BODY (type).

  • s1000, I don't respect juchnik because he lied, stole money and deceive me. About your other absurd comments, I respect the handicap. But when you personally choose to destroy your body and mind, that is a lack of respect. juchnik has brought these problems on himself by living a life of lies.

  • s1000, I forgot to thank you for calling me a pretty boy. I have not been called that in several years. By the way I am not your type, I am happily married man, thank you.

  • sky, I would like to prove it. I would like to show you a raised seal DD-214. Anyone that has been in the mil. knows what that is. It will show all my medals and campaign ribbons. You are a pretty sorry individual to call an Officer a liar and make fun of combat veterans. juchnik should scold you like the little man that you are.

  • sky, You call military veterans liars because you don't think they train in martial arts. Are you a moron? Also Desert Storm took place in 91, not exactly the same time as Iraq. And yes several people have done multiple rotations overseas. Get off your computer and watch the news. I can prove what I did. juchnik can't, his proof has passed away, how convenient.

  • Seng, okay then, prove it. As it stands now your stories are a bit too far fetched for me to believe any of it.  I train in a Kosho school because I want to learn. I really don't understand why you waste so much time sitting on the internet trying to discredit someone else who you've never even really trained with. Don't you have anything better to do? I mean really?

  • Seng, Hanshi Juchnik has 40+ years experience in the martial arts and has mastery level in several arts (Possibly up to half a dozen if I'm not mistaken, if I'm wrong about this someone please correct me.) If you think there is nothing that you can learn from him then I'm sorry, but you're just an idiot, period.

  • Seng, the reason I don't believe you is that not only are your war stories a bit much but you also seem to exert way too much energy into something that supposedly happened way too long ago. If I were in your shoes (again I don't believe this ever really happened in the first place) I think I'd just think to myself, "Wow this guy's a dick" and leave it at that. I hardly think I'd be sitting here on the internet all day 30 years later taking jabs at the guy, seems a bit too pathetic to me.

  • To expand beyond that, I think that your war credentials are most likely BS and that you're just someone from another system or school that has sour grapes with Hanshi Juchnik. I do NOT think you are who you say you are.

  • sky, I will keep this simple so you can understand. What 1/2 doz. M.A.'s is juchnik a master in? Who were his Instructors? And where did the Instructors live? Very important. You should always questions things, don't be naive. juchnik lives in Sac.,C.A. , If his instructor was from the East coast, no way would he have the time in to master the art. Do the math.

  • sky, I have trained for over 36 yrs. and I am still training. I do not feel that I am a master. Do you really believe someone could master all those arts and still be a full time instructor and be obese?

  • sky, That happens when your in the military for a career that spans over 20 yrs. When the balloon goes up, you do not get to set at home and watch it on CNN..

  • Seng, I don't want to call you a liar or anything but... well okay I'm calling you a liar. I know lots of people that have had military careers, officers, or are veterans. None of them have received very extensive hand to hand training so your claim about training with all these "bad asses" through the military really doesn't hold water with me. Also, typically people are involved with one military conflict at a time, not several.  You have ruined any credibility you may have had with me.

  • Furthermore, I'd also like to say to all of you that do train in the martial arts, I am sure your teachers would be ashamed of you hiding behind a screen name and bad mouthing other teachers on the internet. And if it's the case that your teachers would condone such behavior, then it's not anyone I would want to train with anyway.  I can promise you that Hanshi Juchnik wouldn't approve of this kind of thing, in fact he'd probably scold me for wasting my effort by trying to argue with you.

  • I am only telling the truth about one who stole money and continuously lied about it. juchnik also pro trade knowing an art called chi lin, which was a lie. juchnik is a con-artist! And you have been had. You are just not smart enough to figure it out. i.e. like calling vets liars for being in more than one war.

  • sky, You are strange, you believe a liar (juchnik) and you do not believe someone who is telling the truth and is willing to prove it. You are an odd duck.

  • juchnik would scold you. You poor thing. You must be his puppet on a string. juchnik diffidently has you under his control. Grow up and be a Man for heaven sakes.

  • youcan, it is not that he refused to teach me. It is the fact that he portrayed knowing an art called chi lin that he did not know. Once he got my money I would show up and would not receive any chi lin but be given exercises or arnis which I did not sign up for. Not in my contract.. It does make me ANGRY that juchnik is deceiving so many people.

  • wow, Sengcamp has been in every major military conflict in the 20th/21st century practically and as if that wasn't enough it seems as though he spends his spare time hunting down drug dealers in Columbia. This guy is really amazing.

  • sky, I have the awards and decorations to prove it. And they are not forged like juchnik would do. What ever happen to honesty and integrity? juchnik lied, stole and deceived me. I was wise enough to figure it out. Sucks to be you. But you probably like deceiving other people with your fake rank.

  • And also claiming the position of Grand Master of Kosho from James Mitosa's own son (blood line), after GM Mitosa passes away. Don't you see a trend here. Like taking advantage of situations and circumstance, but most of all taking advantage of people.

  • Bruce spent 10 years trying to get Thomas M, to step up and take Kosho over. James M, told Bruce that he never wanted Bruce to even contact Thomas M. You are a person that is very Angry and has nothing but time to sit on here and say trash about people. You say you never got to train sound like a personal issue.

  • youcan, If you beleive that story, I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you.

  • s1000, Don't you think it is odd that juchnik did not become an Arnis Instructor from the teachings of a local master? Stockton, Ca is the . Escrima capital of the U.S.. Instead he teams up with Presas on a seminar circuit. Another case in point juchnik professed to be a chi lin teacher or probably master after Denis Decker the Grand Master passes away.

  • s1000, As I said before, it is not about you. I am exposing juchnik for how he wronged me and was giving a lot of opportunity to make it right and failed to do so. I listed facts proving he is a con-man. And I have witnesses. juchnik lied, stole and deceived me and yes he was nice and polite when he did.

  • This is the Kosho that I studied for 20yrs with Hanchi Juchnik. The things you have seen at his seminars and workshops is the tip of the iceberg! There is so much more to Kosho.

    And by the way... I don't own a dojo, I work everyday just like everyone else does... I teach because I care about my brothers and I love to teach Kosho.

    Why don't you just leave this behind you and make a fresh new start... I want to make a friend, not an enemy.

  • This is where the true spirit of Kosho lies... We are all struggling with our own demons. There are plenty of teachers out there that can teach you how to destroy a man... but how many of them teach you how to heal a man, help a man to get back on his spiritual path? This is what I learned from Hanchi Juchnik. I also learned Acupuncture, Herbalism,

    Shiatsu, Anma, Reflexology, Philosophy, Chi Gong,

    Japanese Calligraphy, and so much more!

  • s1000, I guess your experience playing in a Dojo makes you a Real Warrior. And my experience in real combat in Desert Storm, Bosnia, Iraq , Afghanistan and counter-drug operations in South America do not count.

  • My apologies to you, I have friends that have fought in all those wars just as you have. If you came back unaffected by what you went through, you should be helping them to find peace. Everyone of my friends were affected negatively in one way or another.

    Kosho isn't all about fighting. In fact, it's about finding peace within one's self. By teaching our brothers how to meditate and gather the life force around us, and then to direct this essence into something more fulfilling...

  • FROM SHIHAN1000: "your studying Kosho to look cool and impress others, look elsewhere because Kosho is for real warriors!"

    My reply to that would be, nowhere did I write anything about looking cool as any reason for the martial arts & you find me even ONE " warrior" in the kosho ryu kenpo society & I will turn over all my belts & rankings & become a donut salesman.

    UNtil then, Jucknik & you obviously are a joke.

    By the way, I believe in challenges & I do accept them

  • s1000, After looking at the video, I believe if my only job was teaching the Martial Arts, I would stay in shape wouldn't you? You know lead by example.

  • s1000, I did not study Kosho. You earn RESPECT, you do not get it my self-promoting and calling yourself a Hanchi. juchnik had also taken some money for a piece of merchandise that he never delivered. And would always lie when I confronted him about it.

  • shihan, I also noticed in juchnik's office that with his chi lin certificate, that it was an Honorary one. And a closer look he had covered up the word honorary with a card. How deceitful!. I am trying to expose a con-artist to other people, not you. You are to far tangled in his web. juchnik was always kind and respectful so he could get what he really wanted MONEY!

  • shihan 1000 it is not that he refused to teach me. It is the fact that he portrayed knowing an art called chi lin that he did not know. Once he got my money I would show up and would not receive any chi lin but be given exercises or arnis which I did not sign up for. Not in my contract.. I also trained with Rene Latosa no comparison. Latosa is tops by a long shot. Latosa produces top world class fighters. Anyone in the Filipino arts knows that.

  • It was through Grandmaster Allemany that Hanshi met another top Escrimador, Remy Presas. and became one of his top Arnis students. Hanshi Juchnik traveled extensively with Professor Presas doing seminars all over the country.

    Today Hanshi still teaches Arnis and is considered one of the best practitioners around.

    I ask you, "how is it that he can get these Masters to teach him?" He used Humility and Respect.

    Money doesn't replace them.

  • In 1973 Hanshi started training in Arnis with noted Escrimador Angel Cabalos. Hanshi Juchnik himself is now known as a top Escrimador, While studying Arnis with Mr. Caballes, It is here where Hanshi met soon to be close friend Grandmaster Rick Allemany.

  • sky, I am a retired Colonel. When I was stationed in Sacramento,CA back in the 80's juchnik professed to know an art called chi lin. I signed a 6 mos. contract like an idiot. I never got my lessons and he also had taken some additional money for a product, for which he never delivered on. He lied every time I confronted him

  • Your trying to convince us that Hanchi Juchnik, didn't give you lessons? Do you realize how absurd you sound? Do you know what he does for a living? "HE TEACHES"

    What makes your experience so unique that Hanchi Juchnik would not teach you? Look at yourself and ask the question, How did I blow it with this Teacher of teacher's that he chooses not to teach me? Did you ever consider the possibility that you disrespected the man? Look at the videos, he loves to teach!

  • sky, If you live in the Sacramento area, I trained off base with Rene Latosa in Escrima and Kenneth Chung in W.C. in your area, you should know them. A couple instructors that I know have retired from teaching Military are Paul Vunak and the Gracies , which is no secret. The rest may still be classified. And yes juchnik is a fake,thief and con-artist.

  • Seng, what branch of the military were you in?

  • sky, Another tangent. Stick to juchnik being a con-artist.

  • sky, They are various instructors that are screened and tested by the military. They come from different backgrounds i.e., BJJ, Muay Thai, Hakko Ryu, Wing Chun, Escrima and internal arts. If it is declassified you can find them by doing a search if your interested. It is not a new concept. The service has been doing it since back in the 40's with Judo. Service men were the first to introduce M.A. to the U.S.

  • Yeah okay so name some names who are you talking about?

  • sky, No thanks for opening a school. I have had enough commitment in my life. I am cherishing retirement. I have been fortunate in my travels to train with some of the worlds best. Thanks to our Great Military. You are going off on a tangent. It is not about me. I am just explaining and exposing juchnik for what he is, a con-artist.

  • Seng, now that's interesting and who might some of "the world's best" be?

  • sky, After reading through your BS, your right about 2 things; juchnik does create an illusion and he does manipulate people. juchnik's tricks(concepts) are easy to pull off at slow speed against a willing opponent. Yes, I would love to throw a punch at the guy and make him give my money back. Why did I wait so long to post because we did not have youtube 30 yrs ago and I have been busy fighting wars for our Great Country.

  • Seng, you don't have to justify your lack of an intelligent response to me. I apologize, I didn't realize that you already knew everything. In fact it seems that it's really a waste of your time to try to learn anything from anyone. Since this is the case maybe I'd be better off if I stopped studying Kosho and simply trained with you. Where do I sign up?

  • I agree with you man. Like I posted before, I took Kosho-Ryu Kenpo out of Downers Grove Illinois. Juchnik would show up (paid, of course) & drink before demonstrating in slow motion some movement. Based on folks throwing straight punches & standing there afterward. I have been an student, an instructor & a lover of the martial arts for 22 years now. Juchnik is a joke & a greedy disgrace in my eyes. It amazes me how many people do not question things. Put it to the test. TRY SPARRING!

  • It's so obvious that you are not a true Kosho practitioner. Because the first rule that a student must burn into his consciousness is... RESPECT. We as students do not try to be like Hanchi Juchnik, his life is his life, and he takes full responsibility for his gains and losses. I search for the truth in his wisdom on subjects that I need for myself, my self improvement of MY LIFE. If your studying Kosho to look cool and impress others, look elsewhere because Kosho is for real warriors!

  • sky, What more do you need? juchnik stole my money. And lied and deceive to get it. juchnik is not a honorable man. You are just caught in his web of deception. Why would I lie about something like this? I have nothing to gain. I am trying to get the word out to protect other people.

  • I don't feel wronged, I was WRONGED!. juchnik has promoted himself by giving his own rank and titles to himself. He is not legit. juchnik is a con-artist and you have been caught in his web. He tells you what you want to hear and sells you rank that is not legitimate.

  • Seng, I am sure there is more to this story than you're telling us. Hanshi Juchnik is a decent man I don't think he'd do something like this.

  • Also, I think it's very unfair to attack the man's martial ability just because you're disgruntled over something that may or may not have happened almost 30 years ago. You can't deny the fact that the guy is a martial genius.

  • sky, No wonder you think juchnik is a martial genius, watch this video and see his opponent strike at airspace out to the side of juchnik. I wish all fights were like that. No one would have to train to defend themselves. Plus the amazing speed they use. It might work in a nursing home.

  • Seng, you say this because you're ignorant of what he's doing. They are not striking at airspace Hanshi is shifting muscle groups, leaning, and using proper alignment to create that illusion. What he's actually doing is getting out of the way but his motion is so small it's hard to see what he's doing. Also the reason why it appears that people are punching slow is because Hanshi roots his opponent and manipulates them making it VERY difficult for the opponent to throw a strike.

  • Also Seng, you seem to be wasting a lot of time and effort to slander someone who supposedly did something to you almost 30 years ago. I've never known Hanshi Juchnik to speak ill of others so I really don't think you're helping your case by doing this...

  • Seng, anybody who's ever thrown a punch at Hanshi Juchnik knows it's a complete exercise in futility. It is a struggle to try and maintain your balance as he is constantly offsetting your weight and manipulating your body. Hanshi is so subtle in everything he does half the time it's very difficult to figure out what he's doing especially if you're not familiar with the concepts and principles that he teaches. All I can say is, try and throw a punch at the guy and you'll see...

  • sencamp - sorry you feel wronged.

  • I have no reason to hurt someone's character until they do me wrong. If I can help save someone else from making a mistake, these posts will be worth it.

  • shihan1000, When I was stationed in Sacramento,CA back in the 80's juchnik professed to know a art called chi lin. I signed a 6 mos. contract like an idiot. I never got my lessons and he also had taken some additional money for a product, for which he never delivered on. He lied every time I confronted him.

  • Colonel, Why do you speak so I'll of Hanchi Juchnik? What did he do to you to deserve such an assault on his character?

  • I am a retired Colonel. I like truth, honesty and integrity. I hate people being deceived especially for self gratification and most of all profit. juchnik needs to be exposed for what he is. A liar, thief and deceiving con-artist.

  • Skyfluxx, I am not having an argument. I don't know Master Hassan. I do know who and what juchnik is. And your right juchnik does move like a turtle, not practical in a street fight when someone is trying to take your head off at lightning speed.

  • Seng, you misunderstood me. I am not saying anything negative about Hanshi Juchnik here.

  • This whole argument is stupid... All you have to do is watch Hanshi Juchnik move compared to Master Hassan. That alone speaks volumes and should lead one to draw a simple conclusion as to who knows what....

  • Yes, I am pissed. Not only did he con me. juchnick also stole some money from me and continued to lie to me when I called him to recover the money. So stick to what you don't know. juchnick continues to con and cheat people. Are you part of his scheme?

  • If you knew Hanchi Juchnik in the 80's then I probably knew you too... your just pissed off. Stick to what you know.

  • I knew juchnick back in the 80's. He is a total liar and con-artist. Don't believe the BS about being passed the torch from inside a prison. Impossible! juchnick does this crap after Master Mitosa passes away and can not defend himself. juchnick has been capitalizing on it ever since.

  • Hello everyone!! Hanshi Jushnick is going to be at my schools in Puerto Rico from the 16 to 20 of April, 2009. All of you are invited to come!!!!!!

  • I trained many years with Hanshi Bruce Juchnik, I started with him when his title was Shihan Juchnik, back in the 80's and thru the 90's. I received my Black belt and was later ranked to Shihan, and then to Bucho in the healing arts of Kosho, by Hanchi Juchnik. I want all of you to know that Hanchi Jucknik is as real and true to the truth of martial arts than anyone I've ever known or studied under in my 40yrs experience

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  • shihan1000 Great post! - want all of you to know that Hanchi Jucknik is as real and true to the truth of martial arts than anyone I've ever known or studied under in my 40yrs experience. I would agree!

  • HELLO rlwr2 I FEEL HONORED TO MAKE YOU AND GM HASSAN INSPIRED IN WHAT I POSTED, MY PROPOUSE ARE PROMOTED THE STUDY OF KOSHO RYU, I REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND CLEAR YOUR PROPOUSE, PLEASE OPEN OTHER AND YOUR OWN POST FOR WHAT YOU TRY AND WAN TO DO, BECAUSE IS EVIDENT THE DIFERENCES IN WHAT I TRY TO DO.... FOR THE HARMONY OF ALL MARTIAL ARTS, KEEP HARD AND GOOD WORK, LET THE TIME SPEAK, I KNOW IS A LONG WAIT, BUT TRAIN HARD AND YOU WILL SEE THE TIME BECOME SHORTER.

    NATANIEL ORTEGA

  • We would like to present additional footage regarding the Mitose system. The information is presented for educational purposes only.

  • In response to the martial arts community, we would like to present additional archival footage regarding Mr. Juchnik and Grandmaster Hassan. Again, these are not our opinions but merely historical accounts of the events which transpired. Most of the information is available to the public.

  • I studied under Hanshi Bruce Juchnik in the early 90's. I now own and carry a Glock 21, ( .45 ACP ). I Should have bought the Glock sooner and saved many hours of sweat and money.

  • LOL!!

    You need to stick around past white belt before he'll show you much.....You're a liar, sir.

    Juchnik probably said hello to you once or twice, eh?

  • You may refer to the audio footage here in reference to GM Hassan's training and his instructor.

  • Nat no sabia que tenias una novela aqui. jejeje Ahora me toca preguntar a mi. ;)

    Mmmmm Where Hassan learn Koga Ryu? Who was his instructor?