I'm still sort of stumped as how we went from the source material that stated that navigators were mutated humans that had features akin to a cephalopod to some kind of grub with a vagina mouth.
@stephenparallox Nah he navigates, somehow, the correct 'path' of folding space between one locale to the other. Its more of a decision making process than actually doing the 'folding'. See, in the dune universe thinking machines are outlawed and since actions like going faster than light would take gigantic amounts of computational power human civilization needed to find a substitute for AI that could do the calculations necessary for space travel to be successful. Hence, navigators.
WHO THE HELL designed that Navigator and furthermore who APPROVED it? Was it Lynch? I guess he had to have had some kind of say in it... but WHY does he have to look like goddamn bowl floater??
I'm with larjanus - this looks like one of Mr. Hanky's descendents.
The Sci-Fi Channel's rendition of Edric looks universes better than this... *sigh* why fight it... piece of shit. Hey, sometimes you just can't avoid puns without being obvious of your avoidance. Best to just roll with it lol ;P
so where does this scene appear in FH's "great" BOOK -- which i'm having a hard time finishing because it is so T-e-d-i-o-u-s....i have a hundred pages to go, and i will force myself to the end, but when i came to the part early in the book where they relocate to Dune, and NOTHING HAPPENED, no space travel, no navigators, no folding space, no nothing, that was a big disappointment....oh yeah, we're supposed to IMAGINE all of it, right? and that makes it so much better, right? yeah, right....
WTF!!! What's with that crappy, sappy soundtrack??? I was hoping I could find this clip for Brian Eno's brilliant electronic score behind this scene. But what I find all this sappy CRAP!!!!
@freak49 I think this from the Alan Smithee edit of the film, with all of the horrendously superimposed tracks of music. Really ruins the feel of the scene.
Never having seen more than a couple minutes of this film, and not having read the book, I'm a bit puzzled. WTF is the flying-poo creature that apparently folds space? Some sort of horribly ugly example of over-evolved humanity?
@snidelywhiplash= Sort of. He's a Third Stage Guild Navigator. And he doesn't fold space. He guides the ship through folded space. The ship does the space folding. And yes, it is a horribly ugly example of over-eveolved humanity. Taking spice in huge doses will do that.
Lynch's Dune is in the top two science fiction films of all time. I'll go on the record with that. However, these special effects -- especially those from the folding space scene -- were pretty much crap even for 1984.
btw the 1984 movie was far from perfect. the only thing that lynch got right was the general mood and atmosphere and a couple of scenes(weirding modules are you kiddin'?)
if someone remakes a new trilogy based on this crappled storyline id be very disappointed
In the prechristian mythology of ancient Europe, divine beings used words as actual instruments of power, sometimes weapons.
To know the name of something was to have power over it...a metaphorical way of explaining self determination (the creator power to give a thing a name) begins with self awareness (to have a name).
In that context and given the Dune setting, I thought wielding modules were very cleverly done...Some thoughts have a certain sound indeed!
This is one of my favourite scenes ; folding space to Arrakis. To dream up these fascinating images of space travel amazes me. I love showing this film to people who never saw it or read the book.
Benn a huge Sic-Fi fan my whole life at least as far as movies go I've never went for reading it so I realize I'm at a disadvantage sizing up this movie. But I've tied to watch this movie many times, and it literary wears me out. I have to assume the novel was butchered because the story line ( as far as I could follow it) was very weak.
A remake would work but probably as an HBO series, since by all accounts from those who've read it there is far too much in the story to fit into 3 hours
I am actually very surprised with all of they people saying a remake isn't needed.
This is an iconic movie, but it is a bastardization of an amazing story. Lynch's adaptation was cool looking, but not a terribly good movie. The Sci-Fi version was just as bad, just more accurate and less pretty.
@tastysandwhich I disagree. I thought the Dune move was amazing partly because of the sandworms and the music. Sure the acting was crap in some parts(eg:- Sting and the Baron Harkonnen) but most of Herbert's Dune was kept. I just wish Lynch had kept other aspects of Herbert's Dune Universe, as that would have made the film greater. Pity about that other TV movie, it should have been better than it turned out.
The music is different. there were no guitars in the old version, and it lacks the prophecy theme from Brian Eno. What happenned? Thanks for posting it anyway :)
This film after it bombed big time and got bad reviews by critics certainly taught a good lesson to David Lynch is that he vowed never to make big budget hollywood movies again and returned back to his comfort zone known as avant-garde cinema with the excellent Blue Velvet which was a suprise hit in theaters and this movie is like the bastard stepchild of his career. Another lesson it taught to hollywood as this is an example of how not to make a blockbuster, rule#1 do not hire David Lynch.
NO FILM HAS EVER DONE JUSTICE TO THE GRANDEUR OF THE ORIGINAL DUNE SERIES AND THE PRELUDES AND SEQUELS ARE VERY GOOD.
MOST SCI-FI FILMS ARE BASED ONSHORT STORIES. TOTLA RECALL, BALDE RUNNER, MINORTY REPORT,.
GRETA SCI FI BOOKS ARE TOO IMMENSE TO GET IT ALL IN FILM, BE IT FRANK HERBERT, IAIN BANKS CULTURE NOVELS, BASTERS THE XEELEE SEQUENCE, DAN SIMMONS ENDYIMON & ILLIUM, ETC.
Scenes like this made the film tedious and much the visuals ended up being irrelevant to the story. If another version is made, I hope the director understands why this one failed to capture Herbert's story. The unfortunate thing is, Agent Cooper was a great Paul Atreides. In a perfect world though, Stilgar would be done by Anthony Quinn a la his role as Auda from Lawrence of Arabia... sorry got sidetracked.
I detested this turd of an adaptation in which David Lynch was fucking miscasted as the wrong director when it should have been Ridley Scott or Alejandro Jororosky, i'm a huge fan of the Dune novels since i was 12 and i saw this on TV on Sci-fi back in 98 when i was 17 and i cried at the end for being so terrible, one of the worst movies i've ever seen. Boring, confusing, muddled, poorly made and one big bomb of a movie that raped a great novel.
Seems like you need a bit of anger therapy lol! There are more causes in the world to get upset about. I've read the book thank you and i still like the film.
One of the worst movies i've ever seen and i'm glad Lynch refuses to speak of this book-rape. He was the wrong man for the part for he doesn't give a shit about the book, now Jororosky or Scott would have been perfect since they love the books but Lynch doesn't.
I think Kyle McLachlan does a good job of showing Paul Atreides' character development...here he feels like a young man....in later scenes, so different!
@MagnificentBastard12 Nice! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who made that connection :D I was very blessed and lucky enough to undergo the Ayahuasca ceremony with a dozen other people including me and the shaman who guided us through it all.
As a hardcore, lifelong Duniverse denizen I remember, just before we got started, pondering how this was a bit like the Water of Life that Bene Gesserit sisters drank to become Reverend Mothers- minus the lethality. So in a way, I'm a Kwisatz Haderach! LOL :P
Actually when the navigator shows up at the Emperor's palace on Kaitan you see a person leading a pack of dogs away from the throne room. So I think it's one of the emperor's dogs. Last we saw of the dog was when Gurney had it when the Harkonnen were attacking.
It would be a very, very high honor for a great director to remake the 1984 David Lynch version. I'd love to see it done well, casting and the cgi/graphics would have to be 5 star.
Dune is pretty much a full-blooded sci-fi. Although it would be considered soft, as it is not really scientifically accurate, but then again how many sci-fi's are. Even the vaunted 2001: A Space Odyssey is arguably made "soft" by the inexplicable monoliths.
Oh ok, but from what I've seen in some clips the story focusses on supernatural things like prophecies and mind-reading stuff. I dunno, I need to watch it now.
eh, sorta... from what I understood from reading the book it was a little different, with the "mind-reading" being more a sort of intense training, and it was dumbed down for moviegoers...
I'm pretty sure that Dune is science fantasy. None of the major concepts it uses are rooted in hard science, and the story is more about mythical themes than the implications of science based technology. If Star Wars is science fantasy (and it is!), then so is Dune.
Some of the effects were TERRIBLE in dune. I loved this movie but some are just... Horrid. Paul falling off the rocks just looked bad for the middle scene. The ships when they fold space still look like horribly animated object that you would see in a B- movie.
Lynch's Dune really falls short of what could have been. Alejandro Jodorowsky's version was going to be vastly more epic; not only in stage, but, with actors -- considering Dali was going to play a role. Another crucial downfall in Lynch's Dune is that he outright dismissed pretty much all of Giger's work, simply because Giger was too well-known from Alien. I really wish Ridley Scott had stayed, but, his departure did churn out Blade Runner.
I personally don't think that this movie works. It has a couple of absolutely great scenes, and I think a lot of the sceneries and castings were top notch, but ultimately (at least in my opinion) I think it fails at storytelling; when so much is being overexplained and/or delivered through internal monologues. Still, nice to see this scene here on youtube. Kudos for that.
The most challenging part of adapting this book to a movie seems to me representing the rich world of each characters' mental thoughts and processes. Lynch did it having them whisper for example: 1:53
So much of the book happens in the internal world of all the characters. How do you capture that in a movie?
well ill promise you that she's smarter than you are and you don have any buisness calling her a dumbass, she just made a comment giving her opinion, your the moron here...not her.
I dunno... even Lynch thought it was a mistake. I agree that it got many important parts right... but there were so many things about the film from a movie perspective that just did not work (like in-head 3rd-person omniscience), that I think it ended up being a half-baked Thanksgiving day feast.
@FiverBeyond Actually the book has a lot of that "3rd-person in-head" narration written in. However, that being said this movie is great, but it does have some draw backs
It is a poor adaptation of a great novel that butchers the book, Lynch was never meant for big budget hollywood blockbusters and he loathes this movie as he was suffering making this movie for he went outside his comfort zone and it bombed time at the box-office and got bad reviews. He did disowned this movie and considers it his redheaded stepchild, he went back to his field known as independent movies with the excellent Blue velvet after this trainwreck
That maybe so in yours and many other peoples' opinion and i do understand in the same respect that i (as a fan) dislike what was done to Anne Rice's Interview with the Vampire, but as of yet i havent foamed at the mouth about it!
Telling people that they are wrong having a different taste, opinion or outlook is nothing short of dictatorship, not everyone likes the same things in life. I like this film even if Lynch himself does not.- My Choice.
Well it deserves to get another movie chance because this version angered the dune faithful (aka fans) including me, Lynch hates this movie so much that he refuses to talk about it in interviews yet in 1989 he stated he regret making this movie and he also refuses to sign copies of this movie even in film festivals where fans of Lynch have their copies of this movie and he won't sign it. Alexanjro Jorodowosky is far better than Lynch and could have been better to do Dune.
@littlegypsy71 This HAS already been remade. By the Sci - Fi Channel some years ago (miniseries). You should check it out 'cos it's fantastic. They also did children of Dune (miniseries).
And it was also semi-remade as Avatar since Cameron is a fan of the novels as he made a jungle version of Dune combined with Last of the Mohicans and Princess Mononoke
I am quite aware of this thank you, as i have watched it too. Everyone seems to think that because i like the Lynch version i must therefore not be a real fan?
Do you think Lynch had no right to disown this movie? well he did because he hated this movie so much he was suffering and crying while making the film because hollywood smashes aren't his thing. He would even walk out of interviews if this movie is ever mentioned and would never autograph it since this movie is the redheaded stepchild of his career, thank god he went back to making real movies known as independent cinema with Blue Velvet and others since.
I didnt say he had no right to disown it, hate it, or have any other negative feelings towards it ! But Jeeezzzz dont you go on? Simply put I LIKE IT end of.
Anyone would think you were the one that made the film and hated it. Seriously.
this film seriously needs a lick of paint, a remake with today's cgi, similer to starwars redo's, not affecting the acting, just giving us better eye candy.
It's interesting you talk of CGI enhancements. Granted, these special effects are primitive by today's standards - but I really think they fit the film well. I don't know, but these days I don't find super realistic CGI that exciting - somehow the effects on here have an eerie quality that you probably wouldn't get in a modern remake.
I worry suspension of disbelief is a dying art! :-)
Starwars redo was seriously total Bullshit, one should really protect Films from theyre creators, did you ever try to watch the old Version of Star Wars? It's nearly impossible to get it now.
i think the extra cgi in the starwars gave it a much needed depth with regards civilisation, rather than 'starwars universe, population 23' More ships, technology and general ambiance, that is what is required, no ja ja binks, but no rubber jabba either...
@gmullin I think that they remake The Dune, Twilight Zone, and others because many have run out of imagination and creativity. I hope to be surprised someday to learn that I was wrong.
@gmullin - it does, a la "Lord of the Rings". The Lynch film has an excellent score, cast, design (except for the navigators) but the story is badly told.
all honorable houses of the landsraad require 11,000 year old mutated dog breeds. pugs by that time will actually have their faces pushed into their asses.
house harkonnen were the oil companies, i think they mined the spice and the guild bought it so theyre like the all the different transportation auto airline & military industrial entities
i think they used the same method to get there; the same space folding engine. but some considerable number of heigliners, something like 1 in 10, ended up in black holes and in the middle of suns/planets/etc or just crashing into shit. the spice made the engine much more feasible because navigators could now see into space/time to plot a safe course to the destination.
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Coraxuss: "Check it out, Paul Atreides is Eric Foreman from "That 70's Show" LOL"
No, Eric Foreman was played by Topher Grace; Paul Atreides was played by Kyle MacLachlan in the Lynch movie and by Alec Newman in the Sci-fi Channel miniseries.
"Sorry uglifukka...I'm afraid the world is never ever going back again to the 9th century. "
Wars, imperialism, greed, barbarity, conspiracy, greed, corruption, poverty, fanatics, hunger, sickness, decadence, debauchery ect. Nah,the 9th century has just been given a 21st century high-tech sheen. Isn't that the theme of Dune anyway, even with a Galactic empire 20 millenia from now Humans are still the same. Different clothes same show.
This movie has some issues. It was too ambitious for the technology of its time. But it is still a great science fiction epic and the best Dune stuff ever filmed. Impeccable art direction and immortal soundtrack by Toto and Brian Eno.
I would love to see some great director to remake this movie. Maybe Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg or Peter Jackson or perhaps even David Lynch himself, now empowered with the necessary special effects that the story demands to fulfill his original vision.
No fucking David Lynch, he doesn't know shit about the novel and knew he screwed it up as he disowns it and refuses to talk about Dune. How about James Cameron? he's a big fan of the novels.
@Johnlindsey289 I like Cameron for sure. And I think that could be a huge idea if he was surfing the same inspirational brainwaves he was when he shot The Terminator and The Abyss. Arguably his two best masterpieces.
Well Dune is one of the inspirations behind avatar and they have similarities except he replaced the desert with the jungle and in one of the deleted scenes Cameron copied that Water of Life scene from the book only to add Jake swallowing a worm then being stung by a scorpion as he goes on a acid trip to become one of the animals on a warp drive then truly becomes a Kwistaz Haderach-like figure.
Perhaps the most significant point of the Dune novels is the concept of human evolution and how it might be influenced and altered both biologically and mechanically. However, it would seem with all the manipulations, whether done for political, social, and economic reasons, human evolution is at best a difficult thing to control or predict even when there is strong religious-like prophecy. Perhaps this is part of the enigma of trying to control evolution with humans or nature in general.
Good point. Eugenics failed as an idea precisely because we can't imagine what is better than what we are, anymore than a monkey could conceive of us. Our attempts at 'evolving' ourselves have usually boiled down to shallow conceptions based on physical strength and race. Dune does play with some great ideas about human evolution and also on the difference between the sexes mentally.
Ahh yes...Edric. A guild navigator whose been mutated by the Spice melange over thousands of years. Used to be a human. Must breath the melange spice gas in a contained tank in order to continue to survive. This is what happends after numerous years of spice useage in a high dose, and at this state is a level beyond typical spice addiction.
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...To bring the holy war; Jihad, to cleanse the universe and bring us out of darkness... It is our destiny as good people to become good muslims and to embrace Allah as he is all our fathers. Allah be praised.
Oh fuck you with your holy war en allah. It's just a goddamn movie en bookseries. So fuck off with your allah en stuff him up your ass, including your 'cleansing holy war'.
Peter Jackson needs to do this; neither this movie, nor the mini series, do the vision which I think Herbert was trying to convey justice. The idea of Dune it seems, is to "awe and overwhelm." Everything in that sci fi is massive; the ships, the worms, the size of the empire, everything. No one does "massive" better than Jackson.
I think a remake of Dune would be a great idea, it's nearly 25 years since this version and I would be very interested in seeing a modern computer-graphic Peter Jackson interpretation.
Therse inspired the advisors from half life 2!
PBanimation 4 days ago
yet it wasn't until MIB that pug's became popular in Sci Fi
OzClawhammer 1 week ago
If they ever make a movie based on Dan Simmon's Hyperion novels, THIS is what it should look like.
EnzoFuturistic 2 months ago
I'm still sort of stumped as how we went from the source material that stated that navigators were mutated humans that had features akin to a cephalopod to some kind of grub with a vagina mouth.
David Lynch is a madman.
phuturephunk 2 months ago 2
So... does the spice navigator beam them in thru his mouth, and then out his ass?... it was never clear in the movie, just wondering.
stephenparallox 2 months ago 4
@stephenparallox Nah he navigates, somehow, the correct 'path' of folding space between one locale to the other. Its more of a decision making process than actually doing the 'folding'. See, in the dune universe thinking machines are outlawed and since actions like going faster than light would take gigantic amounts of computational power human civilization needed to find a substitute for AI that could do the calculations necessary for space travel to be successful. Hence, navigators.
phuturephunk 2 months ago
poor little puggies, they got their palace taken over by harkonnen :(
BVargas78 3 months ago
What must be going through the minds of those in the Control Rooms Of Spice Gas i wonder.
ludwigvonsteampole1 4 months ago 3
@ludwigvonsteampole1 That is a question that I think many of us have often thought about. Thank you for voicing it.
wozza2341 1 month ago
WHO THE HELL designed that Navigator and furthermore who APPROVED it? Was it Lynch? I guess he had to have had some kind of say in it... but WHY does he have to look like goddamn bowl floater??
I'm with larjanus - this looks like one of Mr. Hanky's descendents.
The Sci-Fi Channel's rendition of Edric looks universes better than this... *sigh* why fight it... piece of shit. Hey, sometimes you just can't avoid puns without being obvious of your avoidance. Best to just roll with it lol ;P
Suolperos 5 months ago
Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo is a Guild Navigator...Hi De Ho!
larjanus 5 months ago
so where does this scene appear in FH's "great" BOOK -- which i'm having a hard time finishing because it is so T-e-d-i-o-u-s....i have a hundred pages to go, and i will force myself to the end, but when i came to the part early in the book where they relocate to Dune, and NOTHING HAPPENED, no space travel, no navigators, no folding space, no nothing, that was a big disappointment....oh yeah, we're supposed to IMAGINE all of it, right? and that makes it so much better, right? yeah, right....
drglebov 6 months ago
The Guild Navigator looks... not like a Guild Navigator for sure.
DarthRushy 7 months ago
WTF!!! What's with that crappy, sappy soundtrack??? I was hoping I could find this clip for Brian Eno's brilliant electronic score behind this scene. But what I find all this sappy CRAP!!!!
freak49 7 months ago
@freak49 The Eno track is there if you listen to more than the first min.
moreorless87 7 months ago
@freak49 I think this from the Alan Smithee edit of the film, with all of the horrendously superimposed tracks of music. Really ruins the feel of the scene.
KenoshiAkai 5 months ago
PLEASE READ THE BOOKS
PietMund 7 months ago
Never having seen more than a couple minutes of this film, and not having read the book, I'm a bit puzzled. WTF is the flying-poo creature that apparently folds space? Some sort of horribly ugly example of over-evolved humanity?
snidelywhiplash 7 months ago
@snidelywhiplash= Sort of. He's a Third Stage Guild Navigator. And he doesn't fold space. He guides the ship through folded space. The ship does the space folding. And yes, it is a horribly ugly example of over-eveolved humanity. Taking spice in huge doses will do that.
vigo894 7 months ago
Far out man.
nycrackhead 7 months ago
The spice-controller's ship (I guess it is) looks so creepy.
eboromir 7 months ago
Lynch's Dune is in the top two science fiction films of all time. I'll go on the record with that. However, these special effects -- especially those from the folding space scene -- were pretty much crap even for 1984.
coolbreeze922 7 months ago
You know, I have a love hate relationship with this movie.
Can't beat a cephalopod with an energy beam shooting vagina for your space opera buck.
phuturephunk 8 months ago
2:27 What's with the Guitary music when folding space, that wasn't in the original
heatflash888 9 months ago
@heatflash888 that's from the extended cut
btw the 1984 movie was far from perfect. the only thing that lynch got right was the general mood and atmosphere and a couple of scenes(weirding modules are you kiddin'?)
if someone remakes a new trilogy based on this crappled storyline id be very disappointed
lordmuaddib 9 months ago
@lordmuaddib
In the prechristian mythology of ancient Europe, divine beings used words as actual instruments of power, sometimes weapons.
To know the name of something was to have power over it...a metaphorical way of explaining self determination (the creator power to give a thing a name) begins with self awareness (to have a name).
In that context and given the Dune setting, I thought wielding modules were very cleverly done...Some thoughts have a certain sound indeed!
lowenklee 8 months ago
Did she just say Jihad ?
I'm with pacard, nuke em!
damn spiceheads...
Curas1 9 months ago
why is there a really gay monster?
DSRvmv111 9 months ago
"Traveling without moving."
Now that's some stuff right there.
vassephardi 9 months ago
This is one of my favourite scenes ; folding space to Arrakis. To dream up these fascinating images of space travel amazes me. I love showing this film to people who never saw it or read the book.
sputnik9453 9 months ago
Benn a huge Sic-Fi fan my whole life at least as far as movies go I've never went for reading it so I realize I'm at a disadvantage sizing up this movie. But I've tied to watch this movie many times, and it literary wears me out. I have to assume the novel was butchered because the story line ( as far as I could follow it) was very weak.
A remake would work but probably as an HBO series, since by all accounts from those who've read it there is far too much in the story to fit into 3 hours
rainrunner1 10 months ago
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@rainrunner1 "This film doesn't need remade. Lynch's version was perfect. Better than the more accurate remade for tv version in 2000." @gmullin.
Did realize they it's already been done.
rainrunner1 10 months ago
I am actually very surprised with all of they people saying a remake isn't needed.
This is an iconic movie, but it is a bastardization of an amazing story. Lynch's adaptation was cool looking, but not a terribly good movie. The Sci-Fi version was just as bad, just more accurate and less pretty.
tastysandwhich 10 months ago
@tastysandwhich I disagree. I thought the Dune move was amazing partly because of the sandworms and the music. Sure the acting was crap in some parts(eg:- Sting and the Baron Harkonnen) but most of Herbert's Dune was kept. I just wish Lynch had kept other aspects of Herbert's Dune Universe, as that would have made the film greater. Pity about that other TV movie, it should have been better than it turned out.
Loki0115 9 months ago
This movie is an example of how NOT to make a blockbuster.
Rule#1 Do not hire David Lynch
Johnlindsey289 10 months ago
The music is different. there were no guitars in the old version, and it lacks the prophecy theme from Brian Eno. What happenned? Thanks for posting it anyway :)
solnegrolunaroja 10 months ago
This film after it bombed big time and got bad reviews by critics certainly taught a good lesson to David Lynch is that he vowed never to make big budget hollywood movies again and returned back to his comfort zone known as avant-garde cinema with the excellent Blue Velvet which was a suprise hit in theaters and this movie is like the bastard stepchild of his career. Another lesson it taught to hollywood as this is an example of how not to make a blockbuster, rule#1 do not hire David Lynch.
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
NO FILM HAS EVER DONE JUSTICE TO THE GRANDEUR OF THE ORIGINAL DUNE SERIES AND THE PRELUDES AND SEQUELS ARE VERY GOOD.
MOST SCI-FI FILMS ARE BASED ONSHORT STORIES. TOTLA RECALL, BALDE RUNNER, MINORTY REPORT,.
GRETA SCI FI BOOKS ARE TOO IMMENSE TO GET IT ALL IN FILM, BE IT FRANK HERBERT, IAIN BANKS CULTURE NOVELS, BASTERS THE XEELEE SEQUENCE, DAN SIMMONS ENDYIMON & ILLIUM, ETC.
TOMHBOMB1963 11 months ago
Scenes like this made the film tedious and much the visuals ended up being irrelevant to the story. If another version is made, I hope the director understands why this one failed to capture Herbert's story. The unfortunate thing is, Agent Cooper was a great Paul Atreides. In a perfect world though, Stilgar would be done by Anthony Quinn a la his role as Auda from Lawrence of Arabia... sorry got sidetracked.
surrender404 1 year ago
@surrender404 BULLSHIT!
wcdornez 1 year ago
4:15
That's T-Pao, the High Leader of Vulcan. The only one to turn down a seat in the United Federation of Planets.
Kirk was shocked when he first saw her.
vassephardi 1 year ago
Wow. That made no sense whatsoever.
ConciseOxford100 1 year ago
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vigo894 11 months ago
Whats with the annoying music in the background?
heatflash888 1 year ago
@heatflash888 The soundtrack is by TOTO you insensitive clod and its one of the best movie soundtracks made EVER.
700gsteak 1 year ago
I always loved the visual side of the movie :) Damn that's space guild navigator is ugly
uns3en 1 year ago
I was unsatisfied with the film...Jororosky had the true vision...doesn't surprise me "they" wouldn't allow it to be made.
MagnificentBastard12 1 year ago
@MagnificentBastard12
that would have been awesome and unique unlike Lynch's expensive turd of a movie that deserved to bombed.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
I detested this turd of an adaptation in which David Lynch was fucking miscasted as the wrong director when it should have been Ridley Scott or Alejandro Jororosky, i'm a huge fan of the Dune novels since i was 12 and i saw this on TV on Sci-fi back in 98 when i was 17 and i cried at the end for being so terrible, one of the worst movies i've ever seen. Boring, confusing, muddled, poorly made and one big bomb of a movie that raped a great novel.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289
Seems like you need a bit of anger therapy lol! There are more causes in the world to get upset about. I've read the book thank you and i still like the film.
littlegypsy71 1 year ago
@littlegypsy71
One of the worst movies i've ever seen and i'm glad Lynch refuses to speak of this book-rape. He was the wrong man for the part for he doesn't give a shit about the book, now Jororosky or Scott would have been perfect since they love the books but Lynch doesn't.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
if another guy folds space in the opposite direction, what happens? mmm... the spice must flow so stfu.
ascharov 1 year ago
Max von Sydow,Kyle Maclachlan ,Patrick Stewart,Sting, Jurgen Prochnow ,Sean Young .....got that??
gabbermikegee 1 year ago
I think Kyle McLachlan does a good job of showing Paul Atreides' character development...here he feels like a young man....in later scenes, so different!
theultimateotaku 1 year ago
The Spice reminds me of DMT.
MagnificentBastard12 1 year ago 4
@MagnificentBastard12 Haha. Exactly. The spice melange is a metaphor for DMT for sure.
unluckyfrank 1 year ago
@MagnificentBastard12 Nice! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who made that connection :D I was very blessed and lucky enough to undergo the Ayahuasca ceremony with a dozen other people including me and the shaman who guided us through it all.
As a hardcore, lifelong Duniverse denizen I remember, just before we got started, pondering how this was a bit like the Water of Life that Bene Gesserit sisters drank to become Reverend Mothers- minus the lethality. So in a way, I'm a Kwisatz Haderach! LOL :P
Suolperos 5 months ago
whatever happened to that dog in the movie? did it die?
silaku 1 year ago
@silaku The dogs in the final scene in the palace at arakeen, strangely enough.
thepotterful 1 year ago
@thepotterful
Actually when the navigator shows up at the Emperor's palace on Kaitan you see a person leading a pack of dogs away from the throne room. So I think it's one of the emperor's dogs. Last we saw of the dog was when Gurney had it when the Harkonnen were attacking.
toomanyaccounts 1 year ago
@toomanyaccounts You`re absolutely right there, i hadnt thought of that. Damn i`m ashamed.
thepotterful 1 year ago
@thepotterful how'd it survive? they put it in a stilsuit on Sietch Tabr?
silaku 1 year ago
@silaku yeah you never seen a doggy stilsuit? The pomeranean range are fkn hilarious!
thepotterful 1 year ago
"Soon they will begin to fold space!"......"Travelling without moving"
ludwigvonsteampole1 1 year ago
Frank the Pug before "MIB"
kd4adv 1 year ago
It would be a very, very high honor for a great director to remake the 1984 David Lynch version. I'd love to see it done well, casting and the cgi/graphics would have to be 5 star.
ghosted760 1 year ago
@ghosted760
Yes, are you a fan of the Dune novels too?
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
"Traveling WITHOUT moving".
That right there is worth stopping and listening to.
It's totally against many believes and religions today, especially Sunni Islam. Not to mention mainstream Christianity.
vassephardi 1 year ago
Is this Space-Fantasy or true Science-Fiction?
Jammed9000 1 year ago
@Jammed9000
Dune is pretty much a full-blooded sci-fi. Although it would be considered soft, as it is not really scientifically accurate, but then again how many sci-fi's are. Even the vaunted 2001: A Space Odyssey is arguably made "soft" by the inexplicable monoliths.
AspiringPotato 1 year ago
@AspiringPotato
Oh ok, but from what I've seen in some clips the story focusses on supernatural things like prophecies and mind-reading stuff. I dunno, I need to watch it now.
Jammed9000 1 year ago
@Jammed9000
eh, sorta... from what I understood from reading the book it was a little different, with the "mind-reading" being more a sort of intense training, and it was dumbed down for moviegoers...
AspiringPotato 1 year ago
@Jammed9000
I'm pretty sure that Dune is science fantasy. None of the major concepts it uses are rooted in hard science, and the story is more about mythical themes than the implications of science based technology. If Star Wars is science fantasy (and it is!), then so is Dune.
LordZentei 1 year ago
Some of the effects were TERRIBLE in dune. I loved this movie but some are just... Horrid. Paul falling off the rocks just looked bad for the middle scene. The ships when they fold space still look like horribly animated object that you would see in a B- movie.
viscountalpha 1 year ago
So trippy..............so awesome though.
mobius1aic 1 year ago
Lynch's Dune really falls short of what could have been. Alejandro Jodorowsky's version was going to be vastly more epic; not only in stage, but, with actors -- considering Dali was going to play a role. Another crucial downfall in Lynch's Dune is that he outright dismissed pretty much all of Giger's work, simply because Giger was too well-known from Alien. I really wish Ridley Scott had stayed, but, his departure did churn out Blade Runner.
KeeperOfProphecies 1 year ago 2
i want to see a movie with leto 2 as the mutated worm symbiote...!!
marsiozo 1 year ago
Schizophrenic soundtrack.
Wargoat6 1 year ago
The guild navigator shot plasma out of it's leathery-lipped vagina.
Oxoxzxe 1 year ago
I like this version above all the others. It has style, sticks closer to the book
soco13466 1 year ago
I personally don't think that this movie works. It has a couple of absolutely great scenes, and I think a lot of the sceneries and castings were top notch, but ultimately (at least in my opinion) I think it fails at storytelling; when so much is being overexplained and/or delivered through internal monologues. Still, nice to see this scene here on youtube. Kudos for that.
NixorX 2 years ago
The most challenging part of adapting this book to a movie seems to me representing the rich world of each characters' mental thoughts and processes. Lynch did it having them whisper for example: 1:53
So much of the book happens in the internal world of all the characters. How do you capture that in a movie?
buh235 2 years ago 9
i love this dreamy outlandish sequence & the Guild Navigators , fastest pilots in the known universe!
UnemployedEmployer 2 years ago 3
don't watch it then dumbass
thesacredlight 2 years ago
well ill promise you that she's smarter than you are and you don have any buisness calling her a dumbass, she just made a comment giving her opinion, your the moron here...not her.
dirtyjew1974 2 years ago
I would be very upset if this film were to be remade. Dune is a classic and David Lynch is a genius.
littlegypsy71 2 years ago 31
@littlegypsy71
I dunno... even Lynch thought it was a mistake. I agree that it got many important parts right... but there were so many things about the film from a movie perspective that just did not work (like in-head 3rd-person omniscience), that I think it ended up being a half-baked Thanksgiving day feast.
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
@FiverBeyond Actually the book has a lot of that "3rd-person in-head" narration written in. However, that being said this movie is great, but it does have some draw backs
Teladian 1 year ago
@FiverBeyond
Lynch's movie is already an overblown 47 million dollar turkey that derserved to flop.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@littlegypsy71
Read the fucking book.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@littlegypsy71 Don't be upset, be elated. I would like to see other visions of the book.
EDFrivera 1 year ago
@littlegypsy71
It is a poor adaptation of a great novel that butchers the book, Lynch was never meant for big budget hollywood blockbusters and he loathes this movie as he was suffering making this movie for he went outside his comfort zone and it bombed time at the box-office and got bad reviews. He did disowned this movie and considers it his redheaded stepchild, he went back to his field known as independent movies with the excellent Blue velvet after this trainwreck
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
That maybe so in yours and many other peoples' opinion and i do understand in the same respect that i (as a fan) dislike what was done to Anne Rice's Interview with the Vampire, but as of yet i havent foamed at the mouth about it!
Telling people that they are wrong having a different taste, opinion or outlook is nothing short of dictatorship, not everyone likes the same things in life. I like this film even if Lynch himself does not.- My Choice.
littlegypsy71 11 months ago
@littlegypsy71
Well it deserves to get another movie chance because this version angered the dune faithful (aka fans) including me, Lynch hates this movie so much that he refuses to talk about it in interviews yet in 1989 he stated he regret making this movie and he also refuses to sign copies of this movie even in film festivals where fans of Lynch have their copies of this movie and he won't sign it. Alexanjro Jorodowosky is far better than Lynch and could have been better to do Dune.
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
@littlegypsy71 This HAS already been remade. By the Sci - Fi Channel some years ago (miniseries). You should check it out 'cos it's fantastic. They also did children of Dune (miniseries).
Thesortvokter 11 months ago
@Thesortvokter
And it was also semi-remade as Avatar since Cameron is a fan of the novels as he made a jungle version of Dune combined with Last of the Mohicans and Princess Mononoke
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
@Thesortvokter
I am quite aware of this thank you, as i have watched it too. Everyone seems to think that because i like the Lynch version i must therefore not be a real fan?
littlegypsy71 11 months ago
@littlegypsy71
Do you think Lynch had no right to disown this movie? well he did because he hated this movie so much he was suffering and crying while making the film because hollywood smashes aren't his thing. He would even walk out of interviews if this movie is ever mentioned and would never autograph it since this movie is the redheaded stepchild of his career, thank god he went back to making real movies known as independent cinema with Blue Velvet and others since.
Johnlindsey289 10 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
I didnt say he had no right to disown it, hate it, or have any other negative feelings towards it ! But Jeeezzzz dont you go on? Simply put I LIKE IT end of.
Anyone would think you were the one that made the film and hated it. Seriously.
littlegypsy71 10 months ago
@littlegypsy71 It was remade, by the awful Scfy Channel
TransformedMan 7 months ago
"traveling without moving..." Wow, i love Dune!
quidproquo2004 2 years ago 6
this film seriously needs a lick of paint, a remake with today's cgi, similer to starwars redo's, not affecting the acting, just giving us better eye candy.
huffdiggler 2 years ago
It's interesting you talk of CGI enhancements. Granted, these special effects are primitive by today's standards - but I really think they fit the film well. I don't know, but these days I don't find super realistic CGI that exciting - somehow the effects on here have an eerie quality that you probably wouldn't get in a modern remake.
I worry suspension of disbelief is a dying art! :-)
mallardvasey 2 years ago 9
Starwars redo was seriously total Bullshit, one should really protect Films from theyre creators, did you ever try to watch the old Version of Star Wars? It's nearly impossible to get it now.
Levora 2 years ago 3
i think the extra cgi in the starwars gave it a much needed depth with regards civilisation, rather than 'starwars universe, population 23' More ships, technology and general ambiance, that is what is required, no ja ja binks, but no rubber jabba either...
huffdiggler 2 years ago
@Levora and you can't forget that the raped indiana jones
sbarudzija 2 years ago
This film doesn't need remade. Lynch's version was perfect. Better than the more accurate remade for tv version in 2000.
gmullin 2 years ago 25
@gmullin I think that they remake The Dune, Twilight Zone, and others because many have run out of imagination and creativity. I hope to be surprised someday to learn that I was wrong.
Nguli34689 1 year ago
@Nguli34689
Read the fucking dune book for once, this movie was awful.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@gmullin - it does, a la "Lord of the Rings". The Lynch film has an excellent score, cast, design (except for the navigators) but the story is badly told.
mrlopez2681 1 year ago
@gmullin
Lynch hates this movie and he disowned it, he pretends like he never made it in the first place and this is the worst film of his career.
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
@gmullin= There won't be a remake. The plans fell through.
vigo894 10 months ago
is it ix or 9?
cobchob 2 years ago
Ix.
beautifuldaemon 2 years ago
Eew...Looks like the Navigator's butt hole is contracting as if it is having an orgasm, then the light beam shoot out of it - GROSS!
cclayhammer 2 years ago
Iraq war predicted in 1965
transfobby 2 years ago 4
I forgot how gay their dogs where.
No wonder the Harkonen's hated them.
metalninjadragon 2 years ago 3
all honorable houses of the landsraad require 11,000 year old mutated dog breeds. pugs by that time will actually have their faces pushed into their asses.
floweringsilverzero 2 years ago 7
SIr, that is not space travel. Good day.
Xardean 2 years ago
the spacing guild is like the Federal Reserve
sckryde 2 years ago 3
It is far more powerful. It's like the petroleum, gas and pharmaceutical companies at the same time.
0762798 2 years ago
yikes...
sckryde 2 years ago
house harkonnen were the oil companies, i think they mined the spice and the guild bought it so theyre like the all the different transportation auto airline & military industrial entities
d3p3ch3mod3 2 years ago
sad but true
b5kalad 2 years ago
totally.
sckryde 2 years ago
The Spice Must Flow
jmm1233 2 years ago
Did Frank Herbert - because I've no interest in what his son did - ever explain FTL before the discovery of Dune?
Because they seem to have had it... but it's never really explained...
ProphetTenebrae 2 years ago 2
i think they used the same method to get there; the same space folding engine. but some considerable number of heigliners, something like 1 in 10, ended up in black holes and in the middle of suns/planets/etc or just crashing into shit. the spice made the engine much more feasible because navigators could now see into space/time to plot a safe course to the destination.
phudlow 2 years ago 2
I don't remember the electric guitar in the copy of the film I have...
IronHyena 2 years ago
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The water of life scene should be when pauls mum drinks worm come
zappyhod 2 years ago
tera1320 cyberpunk extrodinaire
Favorite Movie!!!!!
tera1320 2 years ago
Nice explanation on the right.
whatevtube 2 years ago
all lynch fans should check out "Dark Night of the Soul." npr has it to listen for free at thier web site. lynch does the last track!!
ranxid 2 years ago
We just witnessed the Guild Navigator poop and puke
sequential32 2 years ago 3
We have just folded space from IX...
TherealMarcomanRedux 2 years ago
many machines on IX new machines
canvoodoo 2 years ago
Better than those on Richese.
Badergader 2 years ago
Oh... yes!!
DarthSmee 2 years ago
TOTO FTW
thalkettoth 2 years ago
In THE BOOKS THEY LOOK LIKE FISH PEOPLE WITH WEB FEET AND HANDS!
Sorry this is part of the movie that pisses me off
SteampunkPagan 2 years ago
Also the when ever I watch this scene I think " is the pug still alive?
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SoleMan117 2 years ago
To Fold Space: 1 oversized gothic cathedral, 1 rubber slug suit, 192,000 cubic feet of orange jello, 3,500 packets brine shrimp.
rat4cooler 2 years ago 9
I need some juice of safu.
Hey those space folder mouths look like nasty poonany!
shadyman2000 2 years ago
Check it out, Paul Atreides is Eric Foreman from "That 70's Show" LOL
Coraxuss 2 years ago
Coraxuss: "Check it out, Paul Atreides is Eric Foreman from "That 70's Show" LOL"
No, Eric Foreman was played by Topher Grace; Paul Atreides was played by Kyle MacLachlan in the Lynch movie and by Alec Newman in the Sci-fi Channel miniseries.
LordZentei 2 years ago
Classic. Fear not and awaken sleepers, for fear is the mind killer.
secretMachine 2 years ago 2
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What's up with that things mouth, it looks like a pussy!
newby78 3 years ago
"Sorry uglifukka...I'm afraid the world is never ever going back again to the 9th century. "
Wars, imperialism, greed, barbarity, conspiracy, greed, corruption, poverty, fanatics, hunger, sickness, decadence, debauchery ect. Nah,the 9th century has just been given a 21st century high-tech sheen. Isn't that the theme of Dune anyway, even with a Galactic empire 20 millenia from now Humans are still the same. Different clothes same show.
PUNKOW 3 years ago 9
Piss on our candle why dont you. Peace
kaktisbalaktikakel 2 years ago
If anything, I liked Dune's art direction and costume design. The design of the Giedi Prime set pieces should have recieved Oscar nominations.
NitekMuscle 3 years ago 6
Pug-tastic!
AcidTrout 3 years ago 3
:) Aye
kaktisbalaktikakel 2 years ago
Thats correct, he borrowed a lot from the Arabian culture to write a FICTIONAL book. Du'h.
RayDH 3 years ago
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I'm sure that dog was thinking: "Please! Get me out of this stupid movie!"
frantic1971 3 years ago
you have like 0 zero brains, go watch WALL-E
endoscopesendoscopy 3 years ago 4
This movie has some issues. It was too ambitious for the technology of its time. But it is still a great science fiction epic and the best Dune stuff ever filmed. Impeccable art direction and immortal soundtrack by Toto and Brian Eno.
I would love to see some great director to remake this movie. Maybe Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg or Peter Jackson or perhaps even David Lynch himself, now empowered with the necessary special effects that the story demands to fulfill his original vision.
Kishmakay 3 years ago 2
Remake in 2010. Or so IMDB claims.
TouchedProductions 3 years ago
@Kishmakay
No fucking David Lynch, he doesn't know shit about the novel and knew he screwed it up as he disowns it and refuses to talk about Dune. How about James Cameron? he's a big fan of the novels.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289 I like Cameron for sure. And I think that could be a huge idea if he was surfing the same inspirational brainwaves he was when he shot The Terminator and The Abyss. Arguably his two best masterpieces.
Kishmakay 1 year ago
@Kishmakay
Well Dune is one of the inspirations behind avatar and they have similarities except he replaced the desert with the jungle and in one of the deleted scenes Cameron copied that Water of Life scene from the book only to add Jake swallowing a worm then being stung by a scorpion as he goes on a acid trip to become one of the animals on a warp drive then truly becomes a Kwistaz Haderach-like figure.
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
Perhaps the most significant point of the Dune novels is the concept of human evolution and how it might be influenced and altered both biologically and mechanically. However, it would seem with all the manipulations, whether done for political, social, and economic reasons, human evolution is at best a difficult thing to control or predict even when there is strong religious-like prophecy. Perhaps this is part of the enigma of trying to control evolution with humans or nature in general.
Thunderstormwitch 3 years ago
Good point. Eugenics failed as an idea precisely because we can't imagine what is better than what we are, anymore than a monkey could conceive of us. Our attempts at 'evolving' ourselves have usually boiled down to shallow conceptions based on physical strength and race. Dune does play with some great ideas about human evolution and also on the difference between the sexes mentally.
psalm69er 3 years ago
Ahh yes...Edric. A guild navigator whose been mutated by the Spice melange over thousands of years. Used to be a human. Must breath the melange spice gas in a contained tank in order to continue to survive. This is what happends after numerous years of spice useage in a high dose, and at this state is a level beyond typical spice addiction.
realityfighting 3 years ago
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...To bring the holy war; Jihad, to cleanse the universe and bring us out of darkness... It is our destiny as good people to become good muslims and to embrace Allah as he is all our fathers. Allah be praised.
uglifukka 3 years ago
Oh fuck you with your holy war en allah. It's just a goddamn movie en bookseries. So fuck off with your allah en stuff him up your ass, including your 'cleansing holy war'.
RayDH 3 years ago 6
Sorry uglifukka...I'm afraid the world is never ever going back again to the 9th century.
frantic1971 3 years ago 2
Peter Jackson needs to do this; neither this movie, nor the mini series, do the vision which I think Herbert was trying to convey justice. The idea of Dune it seems, is to "awe and overwhelm." Everything in that sci fi is massive; the ships, the worms, the size of the empire, everything. No one does "massive" better than Jackson.
stardingo747 3 years ago
I think a remake of Dune would be a great idea, it's nearly 25 years since this version and I would be very interested in seeing a modern computer-graphic Peter Jackson interpretation.