When I heard that C&C4 abandoned base building, I basically said to myself unless they put it in, this will be the only C&C Tiberium game I will forgo. Thank god I made the right choice. That was EA's Waterloo in the C&C franchise.
I wonder if even Klepacki himself has to admire the convergence in his career. Man, the whole feel of this soundtrack is cool, even now.(maybe i'm a old nerd tho)
One of the top tracks in the game. Man, Klepacki is a genius! He and Jeremy Soule are my favourite composers by a long way. The fact that they compose for video games and didn't die centuries ago doesn't take away from their truly awe inspiring musical talent.
I don't get how they expect people to accept that Tiberium Wars happens after Tiberian Sun there's no continuity at all with units or tech. How do you go from streamlined tech that got them to space and then throw it out the window? In addition it was kinda fun building large bases with walls/laser fences and etc. The only thing that Tiberium Wars improved on was graphics.
i am not from this generation of games, but it i am playing this over lan with one of my friends, and i think this is WAYYY better than any other rts that is released after 2000-2001, only warcraft 3 comes close according to awsomeness.
The music in this game was amazig. It was like more than 50% of the whole game, giving the epic-realistic post apocalyptic technological sci-fi future.
And by the way, Tiberium wars DOES NOT SUCK The atmosphere is like the world is dying, tiberium had spread rapidly and GDI need to save money, in the second tiberium war they were like Trillionaires and get to built super technology, NOW DUE TO LACK OF NOD GIVING UP AND BECAME Terrorists, GDI just relax on tiberium gathering and relaxing up! think logic you guys, I Hate EA also, but petrograph, who is westwood, became Warcraft for me at Star wars Empire at war, Unit caps and yet deploy bases! :(
@rifleman1002 im am sorry to correct u but Tiberium Shitlight was a insult to all c&c comunity or maybe even to all living beings on ths fucking planet
Hey everybody - I just released my solo album "Mirror Image" that contains electronic upbeat and ambient songs inspired by the music of Frank Klepacki and the Command & Conquer video game series. If you're interested you can check out the songs on my youtube page, and links to my myspace page and places to download the full album are on my youtube channel as well :) .
I even felt Firestorm was a bit out of touch with how I enjoyed the series.. I really enjoyed Tibdawn's storyline, but I loved Tibeerian suns feel and balance.. the strategy online was very fun with the carryall's/sub apc's and single units that could destroy a base and not require a giant army (disrupters/mk2/cyborgcommando/engineers).. shame most RTS aren't similar, they all seem to be giant tank wars to me
Why all the EA hate? Sure, Red Alert 3 is more a cartoon than a game, but EA did good job with Tiberium Wars. I regard both Wars and Sun as equally good games, with both having their good and bad sides.
@Toemelsen One in a hundred. EA has still done remarkable job with games other than C&C 4. Remember that TW had an awesome expansion pack, and EA was the publisher (and thus had a word on development of) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2.
@Kuhlfurst Tiberium wars was good but at the same time it was like a retelling of tiberium dawn. Look at all the units in wars vs tiberium sun. So the only reason wars was good was because they stuck to the old predecessors. Also remember they fucked up Tiberium Twilight effectively killing two franchises with one stone.
@moxygen2 It was intentionally similar to Tiberian Dawn. Kane's Wrath, on the other hand, was based on Tiberian Sun and had many units from it.
And yes I "remember" twilight. But you remember that it's just one game and it did not ruin the series. While it was bad in quality, it did not do anything dramatic lore-wise except have Kane achieve Acension.
God l love this song so much. It fades in really awesomely, has all of those cool backround acoustics, has really awesome subtle quiet parts as well as really intense parts, and it makes you think of heroism in a high tech postapocalyptic war of an alternate future. this is mabye my second fave song next to Lone Trooper.
personally, i think the changes in CNC4 will be for the better. i always hated attacking my enemy and then hearing "YOUR BASE IS UNDER ATTACK!", having to take all my forces back to defend myself. i hated looking around for remainder's of enemy bases, especially when it was an outpost, nearly invisible on the minimap. the tiberium thing also irritated me. i hated going bankrupt after i used up all my tiberium and all other fields were in danger zones.
that isn't to say that i didn't like the original games. Tib Sun, RA2, generals, CNC3, RA3 were all very fun. it's just that those factors were what made the game very slow and irritating. bases are good, but they add frustration to a game.
@randomvideoproducer EA knows how to make good games, but while the gameplay in command and conquer Tiberium Wars was good (I'm using it as an example because I haven't played C&C ra3 or C&C TT) it had absoulutly no plot and no place in the C&C storyline. each of the command and conquer games in the westwood series stood out. tiberian dawn created an incredible world where elements of the 90's mixed with a fictional, creative and very original sci-fi plotline. (Continued in 2nd reply)
@randomvideoproducer (continued) Tiberian Sun created a dark, moody, post apocalyptic future world full of scary technologies and strange lifeforms, and had an awesome plot. What does C&C 3 have that makes it better? The music isn't fitting, the plotline doesn't make sense, and it seems they went backwards on the technology timeline compared to tiberian sun. it doesn't have any unique or exceptional qualities. it's fun to play, but it just isn't command and conquer.
@randomvideoproducer so u hated the fact that you actually had to use ur fucking brain to play a strategy game. listen kid if u wanna just shoot shit go play MW2
but lets wait and see .. maybe we gona be suprised about the new game play the new graphics and effects. EA should take the last chance otherwise its the Donk-Corporation .. even more donk than microsoft ...
PS: VOTE for Dungeon Keeper 3! :) We want this 2 and this time EA should not mess up with !!!
@endOsS1 go take a look at the beta C&C 4 is a lost cause the game play is rediculously over simplistic you don't have resources to care about so it's just basicly a game where you build the same thing over and over especialy when you are lvl 20 and know that nothing can resist the ridicoulously imbalanced T3 units
ppl get over the whole base thing, that kind of strategies are outdated, it's good to see something new in cnc after all those years of base building...
Its not only base building. But its also harvesting and the tiberium. Those are just some cool facts of the C&C games, especially with the tiberian games. In a dark world, building a NOD base, with some walls around it and a Obelisk. And then building up 'n army against mutants who were walking around and fighting against GDI. On the moment EA take control over Westwood, the game wasn't that good anymore. I dont get over that, sorry.
sure it was fun to build bases etc... but we don't know what EA has planned for us, maybe the last game will rock -(even without the ability to build a base and harvest tiberium)-, who knows:)
@jantsik112 are you dumb or something? If you played cnc4 then you definitely see that no base building is definitely the wrong direction to go
the old cnc games were some of the best strategy games ever produced any more questions? Of course we need a slow change so everything can advance, but seriously? this isnt a cnc anymore, and in my opinion this isnt even fucking strategy just a hack n slay fest
man reminds me of the good old days of playing those awesome Sci-fi games, now the world has become corrupted with money :( no longer is it about games and fanbase is it EA?
Hopefully C7C 4 will be the redemtion of EA, I love these games and dont want to see a piece of crap like RA3... also in the game mech walkers return, woot
Dude, they cannot redeem themselves, they have changed the game by introducing the "mobile-base-walkers" basically builds all units from a mega walker unit, three types, offence, defence and support. They have destroyed cnc unfortunately.
man those crwalers sucks ass, they look like giant matchbox toys with legs or wheels, cnc4 is pure shit, also i hate those nod gundams they look stupid.
The thing that really sucks about the Crawlers is that now you no longer have the satisfaction of watching your units slowly pick apart an opponent's base piece by piece. It just ruins the whole feel that the last 15 years of the series has built up...
Actually, the fans voted for the Tiberian Twilight subtitle. Back when Westwood was the developer, the unofficial title for the final game in the Tiberian series was going to be Tiberian Twilight.
Tiberian Dawn, Tiberian Sun, Tiberian Incursion (Westwoods version of C&C3), and Tiberian Twiligt.
Sadly the name is now partially associated with that lame ass movie.
No Twilight was the same thing as Incursion. Incursion was the working title of what was sometimes referred to Tiberian Twilight (though no one really knew), or Westwood's C&C 3.
Yeah. But RA2's sillyiness symptoms could already begin to be noticed in TS, imho. I'd have liked it better if they had kept to TD's levels of seriousness
I agree. Though with that out of the way I still thought Red Alert 2 was a lot of mostly light-hearted fun. I should point out that I don't consider RA2 canon at all. The first Red Alert game took itself seriously, much like C&C1.
@Raycloud The westwood guys planned to make even Yuri's revenge fit with the tiberian saga, in fact ALL would fit including RA2, but since they got bought out by EA they couldnt finish lots of ideas and in fact tiberian sun was like half-way done because EA pushed them and they had to take away LOTS of cool mechanics which could had work so FINE at the level of making Tiberian sun one of the most innovatives games of the times.
@Raycloud Nah! RA1 was pretty light-hearted too. Remember the push-ups the soldiers periodically did while idle? Or the plane models or the commando voice acting? Ok, it was only slightly more serious than RA2, but I still feel RA2 was a superior game (whereas RA3 had nothing to do with them at all).
@Raycloud Too bad RA2 is a staple, nerd living in the crappy past. None of the games took themselves seriously. The over-the-top tech and fake accents might have suggested that to you.
I would say that the first game was ultimately the darkest and more realistic. It felt like a real war. Tiberian Sun was awesome, but the science fiction was much heavier and even a little corny.
Red Alert 3 was a major failiure it sucks its sucks Just take a look at Red Alert 1 or Tiberian Sun how good thei were in that time and are still good just imaging what Westwood could accomplished now dude WESTWOOD RULES!!! EA GAMES FUCK UP EVERYTHING!
Mcneil is believed to have died in the opening part of gdi firestorm when the kodiak crashed into the ground due to a ion storm. There is speculation Mcneil was not on board.
I would agree with you on that one but some evidence leaves me thinking to the contrary. In the firestorm manual his personall log showed that he became a general after Cairo. I thought he went down with the philadelphia but again evidence in the FPS cutscene of Tiberium his name was mentioned. Either way after all these years I think he's dead now
Funny how when Tiberian Sun came out it was generally disliked, but now that EA have brutally murdered the C&C series forever we all look back and realise TS was actually a really good game.
I had an old pc whe TS came out and wanted really to play it I did actually a bit later but then I was already poisoned by SC. Hovewer when Westwood was sold I thought this is the worst thing to happen to gaming since ET. I was sooo wrong. EA making C&C titles and saying its legit to the original is so much worst.
@blokenamedbob The problem with Tiberian Sun was that it was rushed, EALA games always have had this problem, TW was made only in 11 months and RA3 in 18 month, but also for PS3 which being Sony had a lot of software incompatibility with the PC version, C&C4 supposedly had more than 2 years of development but originally it wasnt intended to be C&C4 but an online C&C for the asian market, probably for korean programers.
@blokenamedbob it was mainly because it didn't possess Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert's actiony, heart-pounding atmosphere. In fact it had all the opposites.
But then, I guess people learn from experience and time. I'd take Tiberian Sun over anything after Yuri's Revenge.
@OldSkoolgamerz While the soundtrack was a step away from the epic beats of Red Alert, it created an amazing atmosphere of a apocalyptic wasteland. Once I stopped comparing it to Red Alert and let it stand on it's own, I realised how good the TS soundtrack really was.
Ea has announced c&c 4, ea says they have learned from their mistakes, even apologized about westwood. Also c&c 4 has a lot of TS theme look to it, i hope the follow through, i hated how c&c 3 looked like a tiberian dawn revamp. I also hated how ea killed slavik..wtf. I hope c& c 4 redeems the fuck ups.
EA fucked up red alert. RA3 was too cartoonish. i only played it for less than a month when i gave it up. RA3 is bullshit. thumbs up this comment if u think red alert wuz fucked up by EA
@taimurtk100 It was a good game on itself. Good strategic gameplay. Disliking the style is probably more of a personal thing. Personally I have to problem with it.
@taimurtk100 I am not really an EA basher, but I have to recognize Kaurava... I mean, Red Alert 3, was a huge mistake, I will not speak about it again.
I took a look at the c&c official website page and i didn't see the numerous variations of tiberium: veinholes, fiends, those weird cool trees and many many others.
They just keep putting crystals of grown tiberium everywhere, nothing more. >: (
They should have just kept all the stuff from the tiberium sun univers and added the new graffiks in tib wars 3 + kanes wrath. And also more battle cinematics like tiberum sun had.
westwood rules! EA sucks omg just look what kind of master piece westwood made about 10 or 11 years ago with those fucking old and slow computers,now imagine what could they have done with these high end computers,EA realy destroyed evrything and i dont know what is wrong with EA.
yeah bro i agree to a certain extent.. i would assume that they just left the company the same but just brought it. so i dont think what you said would apply.
dont get me wrong though i absoloutly worship their work.
especially frank klepackis work on the music, i think it is night club worthy.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the Westwood folks left the studio after EA took over because they didn't like the direction that EA was taking with the game.
It makes sense that Westwood would take more care of C&C, investing more in having a good storyline and so on, whereas EA only sees it as a cash cow to be milked... hence the deterioration in quality of story and gameplay of the series compared to the Westwood era.
This is absolutely the Philidelphia from Tiberian Sun. I even remember the scene this picture was taken from, the very first G.D.I. campaign on regular Tiberian Sun.
C&C 3? philadelphia is on tiberian sun as well.. if i'm correct u deploy ICBMs on a nod mission to destroy it. It's also shown in the GDI intro movie in tiberian sun.
And the music is from tiberian sun. My CD has it :)
SilentShadowLT, this is from Tiberian Sun Music (I haven't ever played Dawn LOL) The Space Station is from Tiberian Sun G.D.I. and Brotherhood campaigns. Just saying. This song is awesome! ^_^
metroid music and tiperian sun music rules
190shepard 1 week ago
my favorite song on this beautifully made game
milkterd12 2 weeks ago
Frank Klepacki, God bless him!
EnixDark88 1 month ago
kanes should had target ea's headqaurters instead of the philadelphia with those icbm's
SuperMrBentley 2 months ago
I FUCKING HATE EA
YURI COMMANDS ME TO PLAY RA2
more than what meats the eye
anandyify 4 months ago 5
Up in a space there was a GDI (EA) Philadelphia space station
DaAznThug 4 months ago
ea sucks
PoketMontoturial 4 months ago 7
LOVE
Unknown1101 4 months ago
did anybody else have fun blowing up the nod lasers with titans just coz they couldn't reach? XD
scarychristmastrees 5 months ago 12
When I heard that C&C4 abandoned base building, I basically said to myself unless they put it in, this will be the only C&C Tiberium game I will forgo. Thank god I made the right choice. That was EA's Waterloo in the C&C franchise.
GreenFenril 7 months ago
@GreenFenril I think they intended for it to be their waterloo.
Zaptor111 6 months ago
@Zaptor111 One thing's for certain... from what I've heard about C&C 4, it deserves to be exiled...
TheBranderrShow 3 months ago 2
@TheBranderrShow
I wouldn't touch any C&C game released after Kane's Wrath.
Gurra88 1 month ago
Anyone got the Mammoth MKII's blueprints? I need a ride to the EA HQ to have a ''chat'' with them.
Stinkie11 7 months ago 37
so guys what about the game in the title of this video Tiberian sun?
i mean that was the most serious fucking game ever:dark deep story with itresting characters,chaotic shady and serious gameplay and so for the music
vlad007001 7 months ago
is this taken from the game, or the soundtrack CD? I have the soundtrack CD and am just wondering. great song btw!
lilmanjs166 9 months ago
I wonder if even Klepacki himself has to admire the convergence in his career. Man, the whole feel of this soundtrack is cool, even now.(maybe i'm a old nerd tho)
mikefad 10 months ago
One of the top tracks in the game. Man, Klepacki is a genius! He and Jeremy Soule are my favourite composers by a long way. The fact that they compose for video games and didn't die centuries ago doesn't take away from their truly awe inspiring musical talent.
Solkovsky 10 months ago
@Solkovsky Actually, this and more than a few other tracks are by Jarrid Mendelson, who worked with Frank on TibSun.
Desolator84 3 months ago
I don't get how they expect people to accept that Tiberium Wars happens after Tiberian Sun there's no continuity at all with units or tech. How do you go from streamlined tech that got them to space and then throw it out the window? In addition it was kinda fun building large bases with walls/laser fences and etc. The only thing that Tiberium Wars improved on was graphics.
KyleLocke 10 months ago
i am not from this generation of games, but it i am playing this over lan with one of my friends, and i think this is WAYYY better than any other rts that is released after 2000-2001, only warcraft 3 comes close according to awsomeness.
jochem1996 10 months ago
West Wood the King! EA is suck,
Rajczi1229 10 months ago 4
Nice Nice NIce!!! Music!!
DeJa0789 1 year ago
The music in this game was amazig. It was like more than 50% of the whole game, giving the epic-realistic post apocalyptic technological sci-fi future.
gogole4 1 year ago
And by the way, Tiberium wars DOES NOT SUCK The atmosphere is like the world is dying, tiberium had spread rapidly and GDI need to save money, in the second tiberium war they were like Trillionaires and get to built super technology, NOW DUE TO LACK OF NOD GIVING UP AND BECAME Terrorists, GDI just relax on tiberium gathering and relaxing up! think logic you guys, I Hate EA also, but petrograph, who is westwood, became Warcraft for me at Star wars Empire at war, Unit caps and yet deploy bases! :(
ArmorTalons310 1 year ago
@ArmorTalons310 Tiberium was sucks
thex2thaz 1 year ago
@ArmorTalons310 Tiberium wars sucks
thex2thaz 1 year ago
@ArmorTalons310 The story and graphics were okey but the gameplay from previous titles was raped to non-existence.
turunen45 1 year ago
@ArmorTalons310 You do realize it is a game right? Also how unit caps ruin games, and that you are supposed to get money?
ElderLyonsHighEldar 1 year ago
@ArmorTalons310 yea Tiberium Twilight sucked!
rifleman1002 1 year ago
@rifleman1002 im am sorry to correct u but Tiberium Shitlight was a insult to all c&c comunity or maybe even to all living beings on ths fucking planet
vlad007001 7 months ago
@vlad007001 how are you correcting me? you were adding on.
rifleman1002 7 months ago
@rifleman1002 whatever,did you get my point in the comment b4?
vlad007001 7 months ago
@vlad007001 Yea, Tiberium Twilight wasn't even worthy being called a game.
rifleman1002 7 months ago
@rifleman1002 Tiberium twilight.. A grand collection of everything that doesn't go together:
No basebuilding, Unit cap, CnC title, No economy, shitty battlefield like objectives in standard games.
*pukes*
Bos187 7 months ago in playlist command and conquer soundtracks 3
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Hey everybody - I just released my solo album "Mirror Image" that contains electronic upbeat and ambient songs inspired by the music of Frank Klepacki and the Command & Conquer video game series. If you're interested you can check out the songs on my youtube page, and links to my myspace page and places to download the full album are on my youtube channel as well :) .
ORTmusic 1 year ago
because its so long ago im playing campains again on hard :)
just killed the MK2 prototype :P
dideldidudadada 1 year ago
@dideldidudadada did u use teh old Banshee spam? lol
iHateSpoilerz 1 year ago
the timebomb, heroism and what lurks signature tunes are almost alike.
ASSHOLELA 1 year ago
classic
nitroxize 1 year ago
christ this song rules.
Darklyastir 1 year ago
I even felt Firestorm was a bit out of touch with how I enjoyed the series.. I really enjoyed Tibdawn's storyline, but I loved Tibeerian suns feel and balance.. the strategy online was very fun with the carryall's/sub apc's and single units that could destroy a base and not require a giant army (disrupters/mk2/cyborgcommando/engineers).. shame most RTS aren't similar, they all seem to be giant tank wars to me
lnopia 1 year ago
@lnopia you said beer, hee hee
tomj85 1 year ago
Tiberian Sun itself is, in all respects, masterful artistry of divine status.
Its music is nothing short of that. I modded all my old WW games (of which I have every one besides Sole Survivor) to include most TS songs in them.
WoRm1N8R 1 year ago
at 1:47 it sounds like those Scion car commercials
Decktard688 1 year ago
This song reminds me of how big space actually is
fallout111111 1 year ago
I used to play often with this song!
das81 1 year ago
tiberian sun = best c&c game ever
milkterd1 1 year ago 38
@milkterd1 oh shit! thats me lol
milkterd12 2 weeks ago
@milkterd12 no way!
surplusguy100 5 days ago
Why all the EA hate? Sure, Red Alert 3 is more a cartoon than a game, but EA did good job with Tiberium Wars. I regard both Wars and Sun as equally good games, with both having their good and bad sides.
Kuhlfurst 1 year ago
@Kuhlfurst
Yeah TW is pretty good, but honestly C&C 4 suck balls!
Toemelsen 1 year ago
@Toemelsen One in a hundred. EA has still done remarkable job with games other than C&C 4. Remember that TW had an awesome expansion pack, and EA was the publisher (and thus had a word on development of) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2.
Kuhlfurst 1 year ago
@Kuhlfurst Tiberium wars was good but at the same time it was like a retelling of tiberium dawn. Look at all the units in wars vs tiberium sun. So the only reason wars was good was because they stuck to the old predecessors. Also remember they fucked up Tiberium Twilight effectively killing two franchises with one stone.
moxygen2 1 year ago
@moxygen2 It was intentionally similar to Tiberian Dawn. Kane's Wrath, on the other hand, was based on Tiberian Sun and had many units from it.
And yes I "remember" twilight. But you remember that it's just one game and it did not ruin the series. While it was bad in quality, it did not do anything dramatic lore-wise except have Kane achieve Acension.
Kuhlfurst 1 year ago
God l love this song so much. It fades in really awesomely, has all of those cool backround acoustics, has really awesome subtle quiet parts as well as really intense parts, and it makes you think of heroism in a high tech postapocalyptic war of an alternate future. this is mabye my second fave song next to Lone Trooper.
mongorians22 1 year ago 3
Can you see the ICBM?
Eh?
Dorda098 1 year ago
@Dorda098 Lol that's not an ICBM, that's a BFM... Big Fucking Missile
mongorians22 1 year ago
Обожаю Френка, есть в его творчестве Б-жья искра.
glavkot 1 year ago 4
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personally, i think the changes in CNC4 will be for the better. i always hated attacking my enemy and then hearing "YOUR BASE IS UNDER ATTACK!", having to take all my forces back to defend myself. i hated looking around for remainder's of enemy bases, especially when it was an outpost, nearly invisible on the minimap. the tiberium thing also irritated me. i hated going bankrupt after i used up all my tiberium and all other fields were in danger zones.
randomvideoproducer 1 year ago
Well maybe ur not a true member of the Brotherhood :/
Or GDI for that matter....
Or a C&C fan at all!
lmaomarine 1 year ago 31
that isn't to say that i didn't like the original games. Tib Sun, RA2, generals, CNC3, RA3 were all very fun. it's just that those factors were what made the game very slow and irritating. bases are good, but they add frustration to a game.
randomvideoproducer 1 year ago
@randomvideoproducer's 2nd comment.
Thank you for sharing your views on the brotherhood.
Unfortunately they do not co incide with ours. And that makes you a threat.
(if you tried 1st Nod mission in TD you'll know where this is going.)
lmaomarine 1 year ago 2
i'm sorry, but with the modern operating system i have TD won't work.
randomvideoproducer 1 year ago
@randomvideoproducer Maybe strategies just not your type.
Sallevan23 1 year ago
@randomvideoproducer EA knows how to make good games, but while the gameplay in command and conquer Tiberium Wars was good (I'm using it as an example because I haven't played C&C ra3 or C&C TT) it had absoulutly no plot and no place in the C&C storyline. each of the command and conquer games in the westwood series stood out. tiberian dawn created an incredible world where elements of the 90's mixed with a fictional, creative and very original sci-fi plotline. (Continued in 2nd reply)
mongorians22 1 year ago 3
@randomvideoproducer (continued) Tiberian Sun created a dark, moody, post apocalyptic future world full of scary technologies and strange lifeforms, and had an awesome plot. What does C&C 3 have that makes it better? The music isn't fitting, the plotline doesn't make sense, and it seems they went backwards on the technology timeline compared to tiberian sun. it doesn't have any unique or exceptional qualities. it's fun to play, but it just isn't command and conquer.
mongorians22 1 year ago 5
@randomvideoproducer so u hated the fact that you actually had to use ur fucking brain to play a strategy game. listen kid if u wanna just shoot shit go play MW2
bobojr456 1 year ago 5
I still play this game along with Starcraft!
BIGZAM0079 1 year ago 8
yes its true ... c&c4 is the last part ..
but lets wait and see .. maybe we gona be suprised about the new game play the new graphics and effects. EA should take the last chance otherwise its the Donk-Corporation .. even more donk than microsoft ...
PS: VOTE for Dungeon Keeper 3! :) We want this 2 and this time EA should not mess up with !!!
endOsS1 1 year ago
@endOsS1 go take a look at the beta C&C 4 is a lost cause the game play is rediculously over simplistic you don't have resources to care about so it's just basicly a game where you build the same thing over and over especialy when you are lvl 20 and know that nothing can resist the ridicoulously imbalanced T3 units
granyte 1 year ago
ppl get over the whole base thing, that kind of strategies are outdated, it's good to see something new in cnc after all those years of base building...
jantsik112 1 year ago
@jantsik112
Its not only base building. But its also harvesting and the tiberium. Those are just some cool facts of the C&C games, especially with the tiberian games. In a dark world, building a NOD base, with some walls around it and a Obelisk. And then building up 'n army against mutants who were walking around and fighting against GDI. On the moment EA take control over Westwood, the game wasn't that good anymore. I dont get over that, sorry.
PhotoGjoel 1 year ago 2
@PhotoGjoel
sure it was fun to build bases etc... but we don't know what EA has planned for us, maybe the last game will rock -(even without the ability to build a base and harvest tiberium)-, who knows:)
jantsik112 1 year ago
@jantsik112 are you dumb or something? If you played cnc4 then you definitely see that no base building is definitely the wrong direction to go
the old cnc games were some of the best strategy games ever produced any more questions? Of course we need a slow change so everything can advance, but seriously? this isnt a cnc anymore, and in my opinion this isnt even fucking strategy just a hack n slay fest
Masterkewl2 1 year ago
man reminds me of the good old days of playing those awesome Sci-fi games, now the world has become corrupted with money :( no longer is it about games and fanbase is it EA?
aznphil88 1 year ago
I think C&C 4 will be the end of the C&C Era. :(
Xannowis 2 years ago
It is. They're ending the Tiberium series for good....
OldSkoolgamerz 2 years ago 7
my favorite track from the series - just hits the right spot
LorenzKamo 2 years ago 7
Tiberian Wars suck!!!!
ASSHOLELA 2 years ago 3
such a sad song
Leopardipzg 2 years ago 5
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PotEnTiaL76 2 years ago
Hopefully C7C 4 will be the redemtion of EA, I love these games and dont want to see a piece of crap like RA3... also in the game mech walkers return, woot
Beafypotato 2 years ago 2
Dude, they cannot redeem themselves, they have changed the game by introducing the "mobile-base-walkers" basically builds all units from a mega walker unit, three types, offence, defence and support. They have destroyed cnc unfortunately.
guyfromdubai 2 years ago 3
man those crwalers sucks ass, they look like giant matchbox toys with legs or wheels, cnc4 is pure shit, also i hate those nod gundams they look stupid.
SuperMrBentley 2 years ago 5
The thing that really sucks about the Crawlers is that now you no longer have the satisfaction of watching your units slowly pick apart an opponent's base piece by piece. It just ruins the whole feel that the last 15 years of the series has built up...
Smithers6650 2 years ago 3
To sum up C&C4.
(Some) good ideas, but terrible execution.
But knowing that the team's going to be laid off once this game is done isn't really great motivation to do a good job.
And it shows. C&C4 is only a month away from release, and the quality doesn't seem to be very good. In my opinion, atleast.
ButtersStotch7000 1 year ago
EA suck
Cyborg3669 2 years ago 4
They used this track for a morning show session way back in middle school. I was prolly the only one who noticed but I was like all giddy inside.
aixelsydyslexia 2 years ago
That's pretty cool. Guess one of the guy's running it was a C&C fan.
ButtersStotch7000 2 years ago
Is that the Ion Cannon?
OriginalPatton 2 years ago
@OriginalPatton
It's the Philadelphia space station.
JuggaloAro 2 years ago
This is a great tune
nubonamission 2 years ago
Tiberian sun had a feel that no other C&C has had since. The closest we've gotten since EA took over is Kane's Wrath.
I didn't mind C&C 3 or KW, but God they are butchering Tiberian Twilight. You don't even harvest Tiberium anymore, or build bases. WTF?
ButtersStotch7000 2 years ago 3
thats what there calling it! thats EA for ya always finding new ways to fuck up a good game and piss of the fans
evaunit143 2 years ago 6
Actually, the fans voted for the Tiberian Twilight subtitle. Back when Westwood was the developer, the unofficial title for the final game in the Tiberian series was going to be Tiberian Twilight.
Tiberian Dawn, Tiberian Sun, Tiberian Incursion (Westwoods version of C&C3), and Tiberian Twiligt.
Sadly the name is now partially associated with that lame ass movie.
ButtersStotch7000 2 years ago 2
realy it is sad but there isent a way to convice EA that there doing it wronge
evaunit143 2 years ago
No Twilight was the same thing as Incursion. Incursion was the working title of what was sometimes referred to Tiberian Twilight (though no one really knew), or Westwood's C&C 3.
But otherwise you're right
IconOfSin24148 2 years ago
GRANDEEE !!!! GRANDEEE !!!! BIGGGG !!
marky2365 2 years ago
I quite liked TS actually. I certainly preferred its whole Dying Earth feel to the cartoonish Cold War silliness of RA2.
Ascyltos 2 years ago
Yeah. But RA2's sillyiness symptoms could already begin to be noticed in TS, imho. I'd have liked it better if they had kept to TD's levels of seriousness
Zardozthedestroyer 2 years ago
I agree. Though with that out of the way I still thought Red Alert 2 was a lot of mostly light-hearted fun. I should point out that I don't consider RA2 canon at all. The first Red Alert game took itself seriously, much like C&C1.
Raycloud 2 years ago 31
@Raycloud The westwood guys planned to make even Yuri's revenge fit with the tiberian saga, in fact ALL would fit including RA2, but since they got bought out by EA they couldnt finish lots of ideas and in fact tiberian sun was like half-way done because EA pushed them and they had to take away LOTS of cool mechanics which could had work so FINE at the level of making Tiberian sun one of the most innovatives games of the times.
olaokolaok 1 year ago
@olaokolaok it's so damn sad that happened. makes me really fucking angry actually. imagine how much MORE awesome the game would have been otherwise
52210442088401616 1 year ago
@Raycloud Nah! RA1 was pretty light-hearted too. Remember the push-ups the soldiers periodically did while idle? Or the plane models or the commando voice acting? Ok, it was only slightly more serious than RA2, but I still feel RA2 was a superior game (whereas RA3 had nothing to do with them at all).
DUNE was a truly serious one.
StevXtreme 9 months ago
@Raycloud Too bad RA2 is a staple, nerd living in the crappy past. None of the games took themselves seriously. The over-the-top tech and fake accents might have suggested that to you.
RedDaVincy 8 months ago
tib sun was probaly the darkest and most accuate C&C
Slayedjudas666 2 years ago 2
liked Tiberian Sun best
cr4yv3n 2 years ago 7
I would say that the first game was ultimately the darkest and more realistic. It felt like a real war. Tiberian Sun was awesome, but the science fiction was much heavier and even a little corny.
Raycloud 2 years ago
a rare known game called emperor battle for dune is awesome too its also made by the makers of C&C
aapke93 2 years ago 2
Slavik should have gotten a better death in Kane's Wrath. Instead of being assasinated, he should have died fighting against Marcion, and for Kane.
ButtersStotch7000 2 years ago
One of the best songs in TS.
Crimsonum 2 years ago
Red Alert 3 was a major failiure it sucks its sucks Just take a look at Red Alert 1 or Tiberian Sun how good thei were in that time and are still good just imaging what Westwood could accomplished now dude WESTWOOD RULES!!! EA GAMES FUCK UP EVERYTHING!
grasskoke 2 years ago 3
I know. Balance and not having to turtle to survive is a horrible thing, isn't it.
pigsdofly6 2 years ago
yeah
grasskoke 2 years ago
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Tbh RA3 was actually good, before that the only C&C game I liked was RA1, ah well XD
VoluptuousAlchemy 2 years ago
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Reephamike 2 years ago
Do you really have to be a douche bag about it?
Hawkisnoob 2 years ago
Who fucking asked you ? Fuck off!
Reephamike 2 years ago
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OMG LOL?!
VoluptuousAlchemy 2 years ago
Mcneil is believed to have died in the opening part of gdi firestorm when the kodiak crashed into the ground due to a ion storm. There is speculation Mcneil was not on board.
Stormcommando 2 years ago
I would agree with you on that one but some evidence leaves me thinking to the contrary. In the firestorm manual his personall log showed that he became a general after Cairo. I thought he went down with the philadelphia but again evidence in the FPS cutscene of Tiberium his name was mentioned. Either way after all these years I think he's dead now
Reephamike 2 years ago
He's still alive in the (crappy) novelisation of TW, but that should count is discontinuity its so bad.
pigsdofly6 2 years ago
Have you read the fanfic version?
It's far better than the crap that author put out.
phocjame 2 years ago
Yeah, I love that fic.
pigsdofly6 2 years ago
Crowning Moments of Awesome galore...
phocjame 2 years ago
I Feel true Hero!
thereformator 2 years ago
Funny how when Tiberian Sun came out it was generally disliked, but now that EA have brutally murdered the C&C series forever we all look back and realise TS was actually a really good game.
blokenamedbob 2 years ago 38
You are so damn right ... That's exactly what I feel.
DecoyAUT 2 years ago 6
I had an old pc whe TS came out and wanted really to play it I did actually a bit later but then I was already poisoned by SC. Hovewer when Westwood was sold I thought this is the worst thing to happen to gaming since ET. I was sooo wrong. EA making C&C titles and saying its legit to the original is so much worst.
Keep it up! Great song.
erlaciTG 2 years ago 2
lol, 'poisoned' by starcraft? That's a hell of a lot better (gameplay wise) than tiberian sun.
pigsdofly6 2 years ago
well yes it is. However tibsun has a charm that none of the rts games have.
erlaciTG 2 years ago
Yep, the "second generation" C&C games are really unique.
Karakta 2 years ago
I know eh? I'd play this game over that crap Generals series anyday.
OldSkoolgamerz 2 years ago
Thumbs up to that man.
R.I.P. TS.
OldSkoolgamerz 2 years ago
@blokenamedbob The problem with Tiberian Sun was that it was rushed, EALA games always have had this problem, TW was made only in 11 months and RA3 in 18 month, but also for PS3 which being Sony had a lot of software incompatibility with the PC version, C&C4 supposedly had more than 2 years of development but originally it wasnt intended to be C&C4 but an online C&C for the asian market, probably for korean programers.
kanenash 1 year ago
@blokenamedbob That's the whole difference; TS was just disliked, whereas Tiberian Twilight was utter bullshit.
gr13v0u5 1 year ago
@blokenamedbob it was mainly because it didn't possess Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert's actiony, heart-pounding atmosphere. In fact it had all the opposites.
But then, I guess people learn from experience and time. I'd take Tiberian Sun over anything after Yuri's Revenge.
OldSkoolgamerz 1 year ago
@OldSkoolgamerz While the soundtrack was a step away from the epic beats of Red Alert, it created an amazing atmosphere of a apocalyptic wasteland. Once I stopped comparing it to Red Alert and let it stand on it's own, I realised how good the TS soundtrack really was.
blokenamedbob 1 year ago 4
My favourite music from tiberian sun.
WiktrytTheDragon 2 years ago
Ea has announced c&c 4, ea says they have learned from their mistakes, even apologized about westwood. Also c&c 4 has a lot of TS theme look to it, i hope the follow through, i hated how c&c 3 looked like a tiberian dawn revamp. I also hated how ea killed slavik..wtf. I hope c& c 4 redeems the fuck ups.
Stormcommando 2 years ago 5
Seriously, they better improve it. I fucking hate EA now they've turned RA3 into a porn film.
And yeah Slavik was an awesome character but NOOOOOO they just had to kill him.
OldSkoolgamerz 2 years ago 5
EA fucked up red alert. RA3 was too cartoonish. i only played it for less than a month when i gave it up. RA3 is bullshit. thumbs up this comment if u think red alert wuz fucked up by EA
taimurtk100 2 years ago 62
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i thought ra3 pwned
NePlusUltraRELA 2 years ago
well my friend, u thought wrong
taimurtk100 2 years ago
@taimurtk100 It was a good game on itself. Good strategic gameplay. Disliking the style is probably more of a personal thing. Personally I have to problem with it.
doom032 1 year ago
@taimurtk100 so you dont play it because of graphics?
SighNapse1 1 year ago
@taimurtk100 I am not really an EA basher, but I have to recognize Kaurava... I mean, Red Alert 3, was a huge mistake, I will not speak about it again.
kanenash 1 year ago
@taimurtk100
Looking back at when you posted this comment, C&C4 wasn't released.
Jesus christ they fucked that up.
Mashermat 1 year ago
I don't think c&c 4 will redeem the fuck ups.
I took a look at the c&c official website page and i didn't see the numerous variations of tiberium: veinholes, fiends, those weird cool trees and many many others.
They just keep putting crystals of grown tiberium everywhere, nothing more. >: (
macstalker88 2 years ago
from 0:20 - 0:30, it reminded me of Simcity somehow
Beafypotato 2 years ago
I miss Westwood... :[ They should get the old team back together and make the most KICKASS RTS of the century! BURY ALL THESE FAKE GAME COMPANIES!
Westwood forever
Redlightning7 2 years ago
WE LOVE WESTWOOD
Rappazia 2 years ago 4
totally agree!
mindhijacker09 2 years ago 3
3:01 - 3:19 I love this part where all my favorite melodies combine! ^^
mistWalker66 2 years ago
Heroism-nostalgies!!!!!
OliverNG91 2 years ago
i like the song is one of the best of tibirian sun
7249xxl 2 years ago
beutiful music the game has such an atmosphere becuase of it,
CredibilityorElse 2 years ago 2
I miss that era when we had good RTS's.
Trusseck 2 years ago 9
They should have just kept all the stuff from the tiberium sun univers and added the new graffiks in tib wars 3 + kanes wrath. And also more battle cinematics like tiberum sun had.
Craaftyn 2 years ago 6
and the story
werwar666 2 years ago
westwood rules! EA sucks omg just look what kind of master piece westwood made about 10 or 11 years ago with those fucking old and slow computers,now imagine what could they have done with these high end computers,EA realy destroyed evrything and i dont know what is wrong with EA.
paimansli 2 years ago 13
yeah bro i agree to a certain extent.. i would assume that they just left the company the same but just brought it. so i dont think what you said would apply.
dont get me wrong though i absoloutly worship their work.
especially frank klepackis work on the music, i think it is night club worthy.
cantz007 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure a lot of the Westwood folks left the studio after EA took over because they didn't like the direction that EA was taking with the game.
It makes sense that Westwood would take more care of C&C, investing more in having a good storyline and so on, whereas EA only sees it as a cash cow to be milked... hence the deterioration in quality of story and gameplay of the series compared to the Westwood era.
Motowner 2 years ago 2
Majority of westwood employees left EA and founded Petroglyph Games.
mov0001000 2 years ago 2
Best ingame song on this game is this 4 sure !
GimmiFree 2 years ago 2
This is absolutely the Philidelphia from Tiberian Sun. I even remember the scene this picture was taken from, the very first G.D.I. campaign on regular Tiberian Sun.
Pianist2TheDeath 2 years ago 5
Hapokas112 = kickass
Thanks for bringing back memories!
Pryysmite 3 years ago 2
dude nice is tiberuim sun dead ? i played it for like 2 years :P good times good battles
jesseklijn 3 years ago
no one can make games like westwood
WESTWOOD IN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS
WESTWOOD WILL RISE AGAIN
WESTWOOD WILL LIVE
WESTWOOD FOREVER
aveng006 3 years ago 15
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
VoluptuousAlchemy 2 years ago
Issn't this tiberium dawn music? (one of the best) Then what does that C&C3 Philadelphia space station doing in this video?
SilentShadowLT 3 years ago
C&C 3? philadelphia is on tiberian sun as well.. if i'm correct u deploy ICBMs on a nod mission to destroy it. It's also shown in the GDI intro movie in tiberian sun.
And the music is from tiberian sun. My CD has it :)
zhshsG7 3 years ago
SilentShadowLT, this is from Tiberian Sun Music (I haven't ever played Dawn LOL) The Space Station is from Tiberian Sun G.D.I. and Brotherhood campaigns. Just saying. This song is awesome! ^_^
Pianist2TheDeath 3 years ago
He's right with C&C 3 if you numerate the games cronological.
First there was Tiberian Dawn(1), then Red Alert(2) and then this one Tiberian Sun(3).
DaysShadow 3 years ago 5
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