Macedonians vs Greeks (Battle of Chaeronea 338 BC)

[fifi9380]

hell ass xaxaxa greek peoples suck my big macedonian cock all greeks are fucking geys

[HaggisMacfee]

[ Dr. Orvill Boyd Jenkins Anthropologist / Linguist]

"The significance of the term 'macedonian' has changed,

The modern country called 'macedonia' is populated

primarily by people of SLAVIC ORIGIN. The Original Ancient Region of Macedonia (in Greece)

was the land of a GREEK SPEAKING ANCIENT ETHNIC

GROUP of people called MACEDONIANS - the people

of Alexander the Great."

[CassanderMakedon]

Let's celabrate Macedonia ;)

/watch?v=U-aj5MG-f_A

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

That's interesting, you've selectively removed

nearly all my comments.

All references from the world's foremost

historians and archaeologists.

Obviously you didn't like what they said.

What are you afraid of??

[CassanderMakedon]

Demosthenes

"That man Filip(Macedonian) he is not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

Sorry for them too :D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon You should also realise that the Thracians were regarded as a Greek tribe. Look in Wikipedia under 'Greek tribes'. Secondly the ancient Macedonians became Hellenised from the reign of Philip onwards. But the ancient Macedonians were speaking a Greek dialect and considered themselves to be of Hellenic stock, centuries before they were Hellenised. They were recognised as Greek by the presidents of the Olympic Games in the early 5th century BC.

[CassanderMakedon]

I am very sorry to but you will need to find new video for propagandistic comments of uneducated morons who have title PROF.

:D

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

Roman Historian

"But destiny was already bringing civil war upon the Macedonian nation." [p.254]

MACEDONIAN NATION not greek sorry :(((

:D:D:D:D

[CassanderMakedon]

Livy

Roman Historian

"that whenever the priests of the people offered prayer on behalf of the Athenian people and their allies, their armies and navies, they should on every occasion HEAP CURSES and execrations on Philip, his family and his realm, his forces on land and sea, AND THE WHOLE RACE AND NAME OF THE MACEDONIANS."

MACEDONIAN NAME AND RACE not Greek sorry :(((

:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Livy Roman Historian "Akarnanians, Aetolians and Macedonians are men of the same language"

[CassanderMakedon]

yes universal language not the old greek language who is abandoned by you ;)

[HaggisMacfee]

Polybius Greek Historian,

Macedonians and Greeks are OMOPHYLOS

{Omophylos= of the same race or akin}

[CassanderMakedon]

/watch?v=uCBtu-MLUVE

;)

[HaggisMacfee]

[Ulrich. Wilcken, 'Alexander the Great' p.22]

"Our conviction is strengthened that

they [Ancient Macedonians] were a

GREEK RACE and akin to the Dorians."

[CassanderMakedon]

@HaggisMacfee

haha Ulirich Wilcken hahaha he is fother of Grekia he made you nation you were shit of garbage there mix of slavs,albanians,germans,turks,­vlachs etc.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Professor Eugene Borza, Emeritus Professor, Princeton University (USA)]

"The Highlanders or Makedones of the

mountainous regions of western Macedonia

ARE derived from north-western GREEK STOCK."

[CassanderMakedon]

Filip II Macedonian,say for the Greeks:"thay are not some nation,but naked mixture of individuals,genii and slaves"

[CassanderMakedon]

MODERN GREECE: MADE IN GERMANY

"Eventually the new Bavarian monarchy would remedy this situation in not just Athens but all of German made Modern Greece. The Albanians of Athens and whatever else the other rabble of races was did not fit the mold of what Wincklemann's fantasy manifested in Germany and Western Europe."

In the Steps of St.Paul, page 304, by H.V. Morton

[CassanderMakedon]

Nikos Dimou ,a greek say :

"We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates, and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover."

Elgin Marble Argument in a New Light By MICHAEL KIMMELMAN Published: June 23, 2009 NY Times

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[N G L Hammond (1992) "The Miracle that was Macedonia" p.206]

"As members of the GREEK RACE and

SPEAKERS of the GREEK LANGUAGE,

the ancient Macedonians shared the

ability to initiate ideas and create Political forms."

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Professor George Cawkwell, Emeritus Professor,

University college Oxford.]

"The ancient Macedonians were GREEK.

Their language was GREEK to judge by

their personal names and by the names

of the months of their calendar. Macedonians

would appear before the Athens assembly

without interpreters needed."

[CassanderMakedon]

“The Turkish village which formally clustered around the base of the Acropolis [old Athens] has not disappeared: it forms a whole quarter of the town.

An immense majority of the population in this quarter is composed of Albanians.” (“Greece and the Greeks of the Present Day”, by Edmund About, page 160

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Roger Wilson. "The Encyclopadia of Ancient Greece"]

"The latest Archaeological evidence NOW CONFIRMS

that 'Macedonia' was named after a Greek speaking

tribe of people called the Makednoi.

Macedonia = Greeks for 'Highlands' from the

Greek {macos} meaning tall, high, long. Their local dialect was north-western Greek

which was later replaced by Attic Greek."

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

Roman Historian

"But destiny was already bringing civil war upon the MACEDONIAN NATION." [p.254]

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[David Hogarth 'Philip and Alexander of Macedon']

"The King of Macedon was chief in the first

instance of a race of plain dwellers who

held themselves to be like him,

of HELLENIC STOCK."

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Dr. Stephen Batchelor, 'The Ancient Greeks for Dummies']

"Macedonia was- and still is - a territory of

northern Greece. The Ancient Macedonians

were of GREEK ORIGIN and spoke a broader

rougher dialect of GREEK."

[CassanderMakedon]

“There cannot be an Athenian alive today ,Because of numerous and protracted foreign occupations, true Athenians were a relatively small minority even in the Age of Pericles.In a later period, the city was suffering from severe depopulation and was re-stocked with Albanians.At the time of Greek independence in 1834, Athens was a miserable village with a population of only 6,000.(“Insight Guides Athens Greece Series”,page 42

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Tian et al]

"The closest population to Greeks are Italians

and Tuscans. The low genetic distance between Greeks and Italians (The lowest in the fst table)

suggests once again that Southern Italians

are little more than Latin - speaking Greeks."

{Southern Italians are descended from ancient Greeks}

{Southern Italian DNA - Modern Greek DNA}

{Therefore modern Greeks = Ancient Greeks}

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

Roman Historian

"What they feared was the MACEDONIAN LAW which provided the death penalty also for relatives of people who had plotted against the king." [p.143]

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[J R Hamilton 'Alexander the Great' (1972)]

"THat the ancient Macedonians were of

GREEK STOCK seems certain."

[CassanderMakedon]

Livy

Roman Historian

"that whenever the priests of the people offered prayer on behalf of the Athenian people and their allies, their armies and navies, they should on every occasion HEAP CURSES and execrations on Philip, his family and his realm, his forces on land and sea, AND THE WHOLE RACE AND NAME OF THE MACEDONIANS."

RACE and NAME of the Macedonians!

;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[H, Bengston (1988) 'A history of Greece' p.816]

"The majority of modern historians

have CORRECTLY argued for the

HELLENIC ORIGINS of the ancient

Macedonians, and that they should

be included in the group of north -

western GREEK TRIBES."

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus Siculus

Ancient Greek Historian

"The commandant of the garrison of that city, Archelay, who was a MACEDONIAN by RACE, welcomed Attalus and surrendered the city to him… "18.37.3-4.

;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Polybius, Greek Historian, 2nd Century BC]

Greeks and Macedonians are OMOPHYLOS.

{Omophylos = of the same race or akin.}

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus Siculus

Ancient Greek Historian

"This was the situation in Asia and in Greece AND Macedonia. 19.105.4"

Greece(all greek stock) AND Macedonia not the same !;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[David Sacks (1995) 'A Dictionary of the Ancient

Greek world' Oxford University Press]

"Historians refer to this enlarged GREEK

SOCIETY as the Hellenistic world.

At the start of his reign, the 20 year old

Alexander was the crowned King of

only Macedon- A CRUDE GREEK KINGDOM

on the north-east of mainland GREECE."

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus Siculus

Ancient Greek Historian

"A few of the Illyrians and the Thracians joined the alliance with the Greeks because of their hatred of the Macedonians. 18.11.1-2"

Nothing is changed today !;)

We "love" you too !;)

Ilirians

Trachians

Greeks

Macedonians

Clear distinction!;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Livy , Roman Historian]

"Aetolians, Akarnanians and Macedonians are men of the same language." {NORTH-WESTERN GREEK}

{North western Greek = hybrid Aeolian Greek / Doric Greek dialect}

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus Siculus

Ancient Greek Historian

"When Perdicca heard of the revolt of the Greeks(Thebans,Athenians,Aeoli­ans and other greek stock), he drew by lot from the MACEDONIANS 3000 infantry and 800 horsemen. 18.7.3"

Macedonians distinct from all greek stock ;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Hahahahahahah!!!!

You making up Diodorus Siculus now????

Hahhahahahaha!!!!!

he never said distinvct from all Greek stock

[CassanderMakedon]

when you put qote Macedonians AND Greeks you make clear distinction ;)

that is for clever people.

or how it sounds like in your mind Macedonians AND Macedonians hahaha

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Of course they were distinct ,you fool, they were ISOLATED in the

north of Greece, but they still were a Greek race, and Greek speaking.

[CassanderMakedon]

Livy

"that whenever the priests of the people offered prayer on behalf of the Athenian people and their allies, their armies and navies, they should on every occasion HEAP CURSES and execrations on Philip, his family and his realm, his forces on land and sea, AND THE WHOLE RACE AND NAME OF THE MACEDONIANS."

And this is after Philipilidis "unite" the Greeks! hehehe

MACEDONIAN NAME AND RACE!

Nowere greek race sorry!:(((

;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

The Greek race was made up of

a loose confederation of Greek speaking tribes

wh were of Greek ethnicity.

The Macedonians were just another

Greek tribe , isolated in the north from

the other Greek tribes in the south.

Get yourself an education.

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

"Men! If you consider the scale of our achievements, your longing for peace and your weariness of brilliant campaigns are not at all surprising. Let me pass over the Illyrians, the Triballians, Boeotia, Thrace, Sparta, the Aecheans, the Peloponnese - all of them SUBDUED under my direct leadership or by campaigns conducted under my orders of instructions."

Even Ilirians are in same quote!;)

"all of them subdued"Alexander himself cleraly considers Greece subdued, not united

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon [Ulrich Wilcken, 'Alexander the Great] "Our conviction is STRENGTHENED that they [Ancient Macedonians] were a GREEK RACE and AKIN to the DORIANS. Having stayed behind in the extreme North they were unable to participate in the progressive civilisations of the tribes which were further south, and so, when in the time of the Persian wars they emerged on the horizon of the OTHER GREEKS, they 'appeared' to them as non-Greeks.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Alan Fildes 'Alexander the Great, Son of a god', p.12]

"Although the ancient Macedonians spoke

a GREEK DIALECT, worshipped Greek gods, and traced

their origins from the Olympian Gods, their customs

and Northern Doric accent were markedly different

from those of the people of the REST OF GREECE,

who saw Macedonians as a largely insignificant

backwater monarchy."

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

"But destiny was already bringing civil war upon the Macedonian nation." [p.254]

Macedonian NATION,not greek sorry !:(((

:D:D:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[N G L Hammond (1986) 'A History of Greece to 332 BC'. p.651]

"GREECE AND MACEDON WERE AKIN IN BLOOD AND CULTURE"

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

"As it happened, Alexander had been sent from Macedonia a present of Macedonian clothes and a large quantity of purple material." [p.97]

Macedonian slothes ;)Not Greek sorry!:(((

:D:D:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[N G L Hammond]

"At the end of the bronze age, a residue

of GREEK TRIBES stayed behind in southern Macedonia,

one of these the 'Makedones' occupied Aegae, and expanded

into the coastal plain of lowere Macedonia."

[CassanderMakedon]

Maby because Atina is builded by Macedonians exactly from Macedonian Tribe - Pelazgans,thay were later expeld by ousiders and thay came home from where thay belong ;)

Atina have Macedonian name even today the word corespond with the story of the how the Atina is maded!;)

Sorry but the greek mitology is stolen Pelazgian mitology :D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Charles Edson ' Ancient Macedonian studies']

"Important WEST GREEK elements remained in the

Pindus. Thesr are those whom Herodotus

called 'MAKEDONON ETHNOS']"

[CassanderMakedon]

;)

/watch?v=_CpeL2mZw6I

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Sorry, I don't learn History from Youtube,

I learn it from University Scholars, academics,

and Archaeologists.

[CassanderMakedon]

We will see for that.And arheology say MACEDONIA infront of my government building soo sorry again:(((

:D:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon What???? What have the ancient Macedonians got to do with YOU?????!!!! You are Slavs related to Bulgarians, you speak a dialect of Bulgarian, you only drifted down into the Southern Balkans during the Ottoman occupation. YOU ARE BULGARIAN SPEAKING SLAVO BULGARIANS. You have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WHO WERE GREEKS. In fact you were still living in the Eurasian steppes of Central Asia when Alexander the Great lived.

[CassanderMakedon]

Asshole stop the crap and ask for the waisted money on propaganda and you will maby close the bankrupt of your state :D:D

haha Aleksandrolidis "unite" the greeks,and the greeks all the time fight against him !

The Greeks fight with Persians against Macedonia!Later again Greeks fight with Romans against Macedonia!

Sorry asshole but you need to rereaded the history and all of your clever scholars!;)

NO UNIFICATION EVER EXISTED! Capish?

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Paul Cartledge, 'The Greeks, Crucible of Civilisation', pp, 203-204]

"Macedon had become the undisputed

single great power of the Greek world."

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Paul Cartledge, 'The Greeks, Crucible of Civilisation'. p.228]

"Alexander was not the first GREEK to recieve

divine honours in his lifetime, but the precedents

were very few, and of course inevitably, inexact."

[CassanderMakedon]

hahaha

there logic

"Greek" King Filip V was attaced by the Greeks who were united with the Romans in Macedonian-Roman war!

hahaha

He can put his diploma in his ass!;)

:D:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Robin Lane Fox, 'Alexander the Great' p.104]

"To Persians, the Macedonians were

known as 'YONA TAKABARA', meaning

'GREEKS wearing shields on their heads."

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Professor Eugene Borza

"The highlanders or Makedones of the mountainous regions

of western Macedonia ARE DERIVED FROM

NORT-WESTERN GREEK STOCK."

Greek stock!!!!!, so soooooorrry -:))

[CassanderMakedon]

Quintus Curtius Rufus

"Alexander also referred to his father, Philip, conqueror of Athenians, and recalled to their minds the recent conquest of Boeotia and the annihilation of its best known city." [p.41]

The word is conqueror not unifier!;)

You were not a nation!You were guffy city states ,greek nation not existed!;)

Sorry!:(((

:D:D:D:D:D:D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Correct Greek nation did not exist until Alexander unified

the city-states.

It was a loose confederation of Greek speaking, ethnic

Greek TRIBES.

Spartans, Macedonians, Aetolians, Akarnanians,

Epirotes, Locrians, Athenians, Euobeans, Milesians,

Thessalians Boeotians, Thebans etc etc etc etc.

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus

"For many days the king lay helpless under his treatment, and the GREEKS(this mean all greek stock) who had been settled in Bactria and Sogdiana, who had long borne unhappily their sojourn among peoples of another race and now received word that the king has died of his wounds,revolted against the MACEDONIANS.They formed a band of 3000 men and underwent great hardship on their homeward route.Later they were massacred by the MACEDONIANS after Alexander’s death.17.99.5-6.

Massacrrrr :D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

You don't understand, the Macedonians were of Greek stock,

means racially GREEK, of the same GREEK Gene pool as Borza states.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

You don't understand, the Macedonians were of Greek stock,

means racially GREEK, of the same GREEK Gene pool as Borza states.

[CassanderMakedon]

No thay are noting greek!;)

Greek as a unit not exist then.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Correct, Greece did not exist as a unit until

Alexander unified it.

It existed as a loose confederation

of Greek tribes.

[CassanderMakedon]

exactly Aleksandar massacrated greeks !;)

In Roman/Macedonian war, Greeks were on whos side?

heheehe

Stop the bullshit asshole no uniting was ever made!

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

And the Spartans massacred Greeks.

so what?????. All the ethnic Greek tribes

were massacering each other for the

aquisition of land and greater power

[CassanderMakedon]

haha yess but thay fight as one when barbarian Macedonians whant to unite you :D

[CassanderMakedon]

we are talking here for Macedonian-Roman war!

answer the question!

Greeks fight aginst Macedonians in Roman-Macedonian war!Thank you!

asshole!Aleksandrolidis never have NO UNIFICATION!Capish ?

Filip and Aleksandar conquer the guffy greek city states and enslave tham,thay were Macedonian provinces.Capish?

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[John Guy, 'Greek Life' p.22]

"He [ Alexander ] acheived what

no OTHER GREEK LEADER had

accomplished in UNITING ALL the

individual city-states into one nation."

[CassanderMakedon]

I am sorry for all of tham for there careeries,wais of time and shame for the world :D

[CassanderMakedon]

Diodorus Siculus

"The commandant of the garrison of that city, Archelay, who was a Macedonian by RACE, welcomed Attalus and surrendered the city to him… 18.37.3-4."

Sorry but no greek onlu MACEDONIAN RACE !;))

Diploma in ass :D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Hahahahaha!!! Making up ancient comments again are we???

Looooserrrr.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Recent exhibition on Ancient Macedonia at the

Ashmolean Museum, United Kingdom, was titled:

"From Heracles to Alexander the Great: The

Legend of Macedon, AN HELLENIC KINGDOM in the

age of Democracy." {This title explains it all.}

[CassanderMakedon]

No hellenizm ever existed my friend the new ages will prove that!;)

[CassanderMakedon]

Everywere : Macedonian Nation; Macedonian Race; Macedonians; Macedonian Name; Macedonian law; Macedonian customs; Macedonian power; Macedonian convention; Macedonian Kings; and not Greek!;) Sorry but nothing is Greek here,disscusion is closed !;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Yes, Wilcken just told you you fool,

their laws and systems of governship

were still derived from the old Mycenean Greek system.

They never reformed like the rest of the southern Greeks.

Because they were Isolated in the North

[CassanderMakedon]

Trachians speak the same language too but thay were not considered like a greek stock!;)

That was universal language used in that time.

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Bury and Meiggs (1985) "A History of Greece" p.415]

"The ancient Macedonian people and their Kings

were of GREEK STOCK, as their traditions

and the scanty remains of their language

combine to testify."

[CassanderMakedon]

Arvanties exactly ;)

[CassanderMakedon]

Demosthenes

"That man Filip(Macedonian) he is not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

Sorry for them too :D

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

Demosthenes???? Hahahah!!

Athenians considered nearly

all other Greek tribes as Barbarians...

what's new.

[CassanderMakedon]

It have a diference he want to liberate Hellass(Hell ass mean all of the greek shity states)excluding the Macedonian yoke as he say.

;)

[HaggisMacfee]

[John V A Fine 'The Ancient Greeks, a Critical History

Harvard University Press, 1983, pp.605-608] "Modern scholars, after many generations of

argument, NOW almost UNANIMOUSLY

recognise them [Macedonians] as GREEKS -

a branch of the Dorians and north-western -

GREEKS who after long residence in the

Pindus region, migrated eastwards."

[CassanderMakedon]

we will see that,not all only paied by you ;) Explain for bankrupt state?hehe yesss!

/watch?v=Q3cdVgP_APM

[HaggisMacfee]

Ancient Macedonians were an ethnic Greek tribe,

Today Scholars regard the macedonians as

NORTHERN GREEKS.

[CassanderMakedon]

@HaggisMacfee

No stupid



Ancient Macedonians were MACEDONIANS!;) It's so simple.:)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Professor Ernst Badian]

"We have now become accustomed to regarding the

ancient Macedonians as NORTHERN GREEKS."

[Professor Donald Kagan Yale University (USA)]

"We know the ancient Macedonians were fundamentally

GREEKS. That is to say they were GREEK SPEAKERS

and ETHNICALLY they were GREEK."

[CassanderMakedon]

That title of PROF. will be shame for them ;)

Macedonians were not greeks never were never will be!;)

Thay need to be ashame,and more education for them:

/watch?v=11HPaj9ofZw

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[Richard Stoneman 'Alexander the Great' p.14]

"In favour of the GREEK IDENTITY of the ancient

Macedonians is what we know of their language,

their place names, names of the month, and many

of their personal names, especially Royal names

which are GREEK IN ROOTS AND FORM. They did not merely use Greek as a lingua

franca but spoke it as natives..........though

with a local accent."

[rurounisld]

u should mention the other battles between greek city-states. or the times they united to deflect the persians.

greeks fought each other cause there was no1 else around with similar power, each city-state wanted whole greece under its name, and moreover the whole world ( its called greed and its a human's thing)

however only greek races were allowed to join the olympic games!! not illyrians not egyptians etc etc. i think its a solid argument that ppl cant deny with ease

[HaggisMacfee]

MoronPilaf And of course, ancient Macedonia is STILL in Greece, and Macedonia is Greece's largest province, from mount Olympus up. In Greece you will find the ancient macedonian kingdom of macedonia, including the many ancient royal capitals and palaces of the macedonians of Pella, and Aegae, including the royal burial tombs. Check out the new exhibition at the Ashmolean museum (UK) entitled: "The Legend of Macedon, an HELLENIC KINGDOM."

[HaggisMacfee]

MoronPilaf,

hey bonehead, no-one believes you, because

world history says the ancient macedonians

were a Greek tribe.

What's it got to do with you anyway, your

Slavic ancestors didn't even come to

europe from the central asian steppes

until 1000 years later.

[HaggisMacfee]

"Holy shadows of the dead, I am not to blame

for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry

which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE to fight one another. I do not fell happy for this victory of mine

on the contrary, I would be

glad brothers , if I had you all standing here next to me,

since we are united by the SAME LANGUAGE,

the SAME BLOOD, and the same visions."

[Quintus Curtius Rufus - Alexander addressing

the dead Hellenes]

[HaggisMacfee]

[Bury and Meiggs (1985) 'A History of Greece.' p.415]

"The ancient Macedonian people

and their Kings were of GREEK STOCK, as their

traditions and scanty remains of their language

combine to testify."

[HaggisMacfee]

[David Sacks (1995) "A Dictionary of the Ancient

Greek world" Oxford University Press]

"At the start of his reign, the 20 year old

Alexander was the crowned king

of only Macedon - A CRUDE GREEK NATION

ON THE NORTH-EAST OF MAINLAND GREECE."

[HaggisMacfee]

[Eugene Borza (1995) 'Makedonika']

"The highlanders or Makedones of the mountainous

regions of western Macedonia are

derived from North-western GREEK STOCK."

[HaggisMacfee]

[N.G L. Hammond (1986) "A History of Greece to 332BC", p.651]

"Greece and Macedon were akin

on BLOOD AND CULTURE."

[HaggisMacfee]

To be more accurate, it was a battle between

Northern Greeks (Macedonians) and Southern Greeks (Athenians etc.)

[Ficoman90]

@ArkoudoROMANTIC u ignorant fool...

[aquarium01]

Macedonia Forever....

[aquarium01]

Macedonia Forever....



[satulenko]

MACEDONIA FOREVER FUCK THAT RETARD FREAK GREEK FAGS

[CassanderMakedon]

@ArkoudoROMANTIC

cccc Macedonians were not greeks never will be!;)

[HaggisMacfee]

@CassanderMakedon

[John V A Fine, 'The Ancient Greeks, a Critical History,

Harvard University Press, 1983, pp. 605-608]

"Modern scholars after many generations

of argument, now almost UNANIMOUSLY

recognise them [ancient Macedonians] as GREEKS,

a branch of the DORIANS and 'NORTH-WEST GREEKS'

who after long residence in the Pindus region

migrated eastwards."

[trisnna9801]

"Holy shadows of the dead, I’m not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions." **Alexander addressing the dead Hellenes (the Athenean and Thebean Greeks).

[CassanderMakedon]

hahahah holy lier!;)

[trisnna9801]

@CassanderMakedon Yea...I'm the lier. Meanwhile you edited this video from TLC and left out the part where they mentioned, "Philip's victory united the Hellenic world under one king, and he could finally set his sites on Persia." So stop pushing your propaganda videos just because you have an agenda. The rest of the world doesn't care, and all you're really doing is helping your own people get drunk on fallacies. Your creating an injustice and won't serve them going forward in the 21st century.

[MrRallemulle]

@trisnna9801 You both suck. The end.

[trisnna9801]

@MrRallemulle Yea...I know we do, but he sucks just a little bit more then I do ;)

[MrRallemulle]

@trisnna9801 *sigh* -.-

[RommelPilaf]

@trisnna9801 The difference between ancient Macedonians and the ancient Greeks is obvious. It is not a matter for debate. Language, customs, traditions and the every-day soldier’s behavior, all point to two distinct and separate ethnic groups. In short, the ancient Macedonians were simply that – Macedonians, and the Greeks were foreign people next to them.

[RommelPilaf]

@trisnna9801 Quintus Curtius Rufus

Roman Historian

The History of Alexander [Alexander speaks to his Macedonians] "Where is that shout of yours that shows your enthusiasm? Where that characteristic look of my Macedonians?" [p.217] "Starting with Macedonia, I now have power over Greece; I have brought Thrace and the Illyrians under my control; rule the Triballi and the Maedi. I have Asia in my possession from the Hellespont to the Red Sea." [p.227]

[trisnna9801]

@RommelPilaf Quintus Curtius Rufus was a Roman historian, writing probably during the reign of the Emperor Claudius (41-54 AD) or Vespasian. His only surviving work, Historiae Alexandri Magni, is a biography of Alexander the Great in Latin in ten books, of which the first two are lost, and the remaining eight are incomplete. His work is fluidly written, and while superficial study reveals the authors errors regarding geography, chronology and technical military knowledge, >>>

[RommelPilaf]

@trisnna9801 Plutarch

Ancient Greek Historian

The Age of Alexander. Alexander asks a women, who was being taken captive, who she was, she replied: 'I am the sister of Theogenes who commanded our army against your father, Philip, and fell at Chaeronea fighting for the liberty of Greece.' [p.265]

[trisnna9801]

@RommelPilaf Getting your information from a government sponsored website from Fyrom, is not exactly a history lesson. But desperate means call for desperate measures, I guess. Enjoy reading your fairy-tales...while I enjoy reading real history books.

[trisnna9801]

@RommelPilaf >>> a detailed study reveals his focusing instead on character and protests against those Emperors of his times whom he considered tyrants. Despite the fact that much of the information we have on this ancient historian is relatively obscure, significant evidence suggests that he suffered one of the earliest known cases of conjunctivitis. Several scholars argue that it was because this went untreated that he succumbed to an early death... So you see how desperate you are, right?

[RommelPilaf]

@trisnna9801 Strabo

Roman Historian

"The Thessalians in particular wore long robes, probably because they of all the Greeks lived in the most northerly and coldest region" [11.14.12].

As Macedonia is located north of Thessaly it is obviously not a part of Greece, nor the Macedonians were Greeks, for the most northerly Greeks were already the Thessalians.

[HaggisMacfee]

@RommelPilaf

[Strabo]

"And of course, Macedonia is a part of Greece."

[RommelPilaf]

@HaggisMacfee go and hang your self nice propaganda from hell ass lol nice try "Thebans countered by demanding the surrender of Philotas and Antipater and appealing to all who wished to liberate Greece to range themselves on their side, and at this Alexander ordered his troops to prepare for battle." [p.264] [The ones who want to liberate Greece against the Macedonian troops]:))))))

[HaggisMacfee]

@RommelPilaf Hahahahahaha!!!!! You can bang on as much as you want, at the end of the day the ancient Macedonians were of GREEK ORIGIN, and you're just a Bulgarian speaking Slav with no history desparate to make one up. [H.Bengston (1988) 'A History of Greece' p.186] "The majority of modern Historians have CORRECTLY argued for the HELLENIC ORIGINS of the ancient Macedonians, and that they should be included in the group of north-west GREEK TRIBES."

[trisnna9801]

If Greece and FYROM were in prison together, FYROM would be braiding Greece's hair. Then Bulgaria would ask Greece how many packs of cigarettes does Greece want, so Bulgaria can have it's way with FYROM. Then Greece's reply would be, "Just pay for the vaseline and we'll call it even, and don't forget to use a condom because FYROM likes to lie about it's past."

[greekphalanx]

The battle of Chaeronia was a civil war between Greeks....

ALEXANDER THE GEAT SAYS THAT THEBEANS ATHENIANS AND MACEDONIANS HAVE THE SAME BLOOD, THE SAME LANGUAGE AND THE SAME VISIONS....

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT MACEDONIANS WEREN'T GREEKS

SEE ALEXANDER'S SPEECH ....

[NOTJOHNNYJOSE]

@greekphalanx

my dear friend

Speaking to a brainwashed person requires patience and compasion. Unfortunatelly, the people of FYROM don't seem to understand that their ancestors were Slavs and Bulgarians. You know, they want to appropriate Greece's History so that they feel proud of something.

Answering to FYROM's propaganda is like speaking to a wall...Just meaningless

Go figure

[greekphalanx]

Alexander the Great, addressing the dead Greeks of the Battle of Chaeronea:

"Holy shadows of the dead, Im not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions."

Qurtius Rufus (6.3.11)

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 fucking jewish clown are you talking to yourself again?Get some talmud in your ass because as its being proved noone fucks you!!!!

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

YOU ARE NOT GREEK JIMBO !

YOU ARE A TRAITOR !

A NAZI COCKROACH !

ΘΑ  ΣΕ ΞΕΦΤΥΛΙΣΩ ΝΑΖΙΣΤΙΚΟ ΣΚΟΥΠΙΔΙ ΠΟΥ ΠΑΡΙΣΤΑΝΕΙς ΤΟΝ ''ΠΑΤΡΙΩΤΗ'' ! ΠΑΛΙΟΒΡΩΜΙΑΡΗ !

ΟΥ ΝΑ ΧΑΘΕΙς ΚΟΠΡΙΤΗ !

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

My toilet went ...crazy yesterday  afternoon...

BUT IT DIDN'T SMELL HALF AS BAD, AS YOU DO, JIMBO !

YOU STINKING NAZI TRECHEROUS COCKROACH !!!

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 SHUT UP JEWISH GAY!!!!YOU ARE YELLING LIKE A JEWISH BITCH BECAUSE NOONE FUCKS YOU!!!! ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS IF YOU DONT FOLLOW YOUR TREATMENT AND YOU REFUSE PUTTING TALMUD TORAH AND OLD PORN TESTAMENT IN YOUR ASS!!!I SUGGESTED TO YOU PUTTING YOUR CAT AND SOME CHICKENS TOO!!! IF YOU DONT LISTEN TO ME ASK YOUR RABBI FOR ADVICE!!!!

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

Next time I step upon a dog's turd on the pavement, i'll know it's definately you... Jimbo.

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 ACCORDING OT INDUISM IT WILL BE YOUR JEWISH GRADMA WHO BECOME SHIT TURD!!!!

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

Shut up Jimbo ! Dog turds don't talk !

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

and it's HINDUISM ! not INDUISM !

nazi nincompoop !

TOUVLO ! ( skato-touvlo )

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 SHAME ON YOU LITTLE JEW!!!!YOU TREADED ON YOUR JEWISH GRADMA!!!!

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 YOU ARE SUCH A BORING LITTLE JEWISH FART!!!!!WHY DONT YOU JUST BANG YOUR HEAD ON THE WALL OF TEARS?

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b

such a pity that FREAK SHOWS are not legal anymore...

you could exibit  yourself as JIMBO THE TALKING NAZI DOG-TURD !

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 HEY LITTLE SON OF AVNAN DO YOU KNOW WHY AUSCHWITZ IS STILL THERE?IT WAITS FOR YOU JEWISH CLOWN!!!!

[theo9952]

@Jimis1821b You're such a GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT jimbo...

but i can't go on kicking your NEO-NAZI ARSE forever !

Try somewhere  else for your ...medicine...

So long... jimbo.

[Jimis1821b]

@theo9952 LITTLE JEWISH FART NOW YOU CAN GO BANG YOUR HEAD ON THE WALL OF TEARS AND CRY FOR THE PSEUDOCAUST!!!

[Jimis1821b]

You mongoloid monkeydonians your mongoloid ancestors invaded in balkans after 600 ac as your albanobulgarian president gligorov admitted!!!!Of course theres no fucking relationship between you and ancient Greeks!!!!You are fucking subhuman albanoids controlled by jews in vardaska and cossovo!!!!Time is near Greeks invade in and occupy North Greece!!!!Then you ll be killed one by one!!!!

[theo9952]

ΒΑTTLES AMONG GREEKS IN ANTIQUITY WHETHER THEY WERE MAKEDONES, ATHINIANS, OR SPARTANS...

HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTEMPORARY BULGARIAN-SPEAKING POPULATION OF FYROM !

SORRY BUT WE WILL NEVER ALLOW FALSIFICATION OF OUR HISTORY AND NATIONAL HERITAGE, FELLOWS ! NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, YOU WILL BE GETTING YOUR ...JUST DESERTS !

[CassanderMakedon]

@theo9952

/watch?v=11HPaj9ofZw

;)

[theo9952]

@CassanderMakedon

I may watch it, but i asure you that no matter what your state propaganda has paid for, YOU WILL NOT CHANGE HISTORY.

[CassanderMakedon]

@theo9952

Ohhh thats why you are bankrupt?becose we pay for propaganda?hehe we will see who pay for propaganda wikiliks is on their turn!;)

[theo9952]

@CassanderMakedon

we are not bankrupt and we are far richer than FYROM is, inspite of the economy crisis. We will overcome this crisis which is not exclusive to Greece but EUROPEAN - EU. For FYROM to reach our present per capita income will take thirty years. And you will be staying outside the EU until you learn to behave yourselves.